Traxxas SLEDGE Vs. Arrma KRATON EXB Comparison SUPER FAIL!

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[@vicdez]

Choice is good. Fun times were had with the kids, that's always good. Just don't like that Traxxas tax. Kraton 6s RTR 599.99 and its on sale right now for 529.99. None of these companies are my friends so I'll be trying to keep as much money as I can in my wallet.😉

[@davidpetersen6373]

Ya but don’t forget you will have to upgrade the steering out of the box if you want the kraton to turn!

[@eminstinct4114]

@@davidpetersen6373 or turn up the esc bec to give more power to the servo don’t turn it up to much or else it’ll fry it make sure that you figure out the max voltage the servo can take before you do this it might already be at its limit you can figure this out by searching for the servo on horizon hobby or amain hobbies in the product description you can use the controller to program the esc but it’s easier with the programming box but the stock servo should more than strong enough it’s just in the slow side but upgrad8ng the servos never hurt if you get a good one for the price protec makes some really good servos some of the protec servos have optional gear kits in case you break the gears an other good option is align servos there made for helicopters but are really fast and stron like the protec ones you can get spare parts for them

[@d-nice2866]

@@eminstinct4114 how you do that?

[@d-nice2866]

These cars not cheap

[@eminstinct4114]

@@d-nice2866 there’s lots of tutorials one KZbin just look up bec tutorial for spektrum firma 150 amp esc

[@harrysrcchannel5651]

What a stupid price comparison. The spectrum is a much better esc with more tuning options, the vxl combo is way overpriced for what you get in return. A decent bashing servo costs 50$. And just buy a 2 or 3 channel radio, plenty good radios about 30 or 40$. So it's actually a lot cheaper than the sledge. Traxxas servo is underpowered, esc is a disaster with the lights off dead and the radio is just overpriced for a 2 channel. Definitely need to replace the servo and esc within several months, maybe weeks so the arrma is much cheaper at the end, even with a m2c chassis replacement. I'm also not convinced with the Traxxas chassis but time is gonna tell. Compare the sledge with a Kronos and a kraton. All with the same tires, same electronics. I'm gonna tell you the result right now. 3 total losses for sure 😃

[@rcsmith5909]

Do like 👍your vids . I was drunk the other day sometimes I get mean .sorry 🍻😛

[@marxnex71]

Awww man. Can’t believe there wasn’t a ‘*not a fart’ disclaimer. I’m not angry, Mark. Just disappointed ☹️😉 Just messing. You’re rapidly becoming my favourite channel. Keep em coming Mark 👍🏻

[@MarkSantaMaria]

i got you covered in the next next one.... hahaha

[@kentao4]

Your troll game is on 10000000! Lol. I’m one minute into the video and cracking up!

[@arthopfer]

Still not sure why most feel one has to be better than the other. I don’t own either but both look great.

[@gotface1403]

I mean it's not a feeling. One's always going to be better.

[@patrickmccarthy3289]

story of our lives right

[@rcaddictsanonymous4827]

You quoted the Kraton EXB at FULL RETAIL with an overpriced Servo, and a ridiculous number for RXTX. This is so swayed 😂😂😂 You can literally get the motor and ESC as brand new take offs for 115$ for the set on Jennys RC. And a Amazon 35kg Servo is more than enough. My entire Kraton EXB build comes out to 80$ less than a sledge with the same system in it. 😂

[@jordansrc8483]

In my opinion they are not at all comparable. The Sledge is a RTR and the Kraton EXB is a roller! 👍

[@theAessaya]

For what it's worth, he _did_ put the same ESC and motor into his Kraton that come in the RTR ones. And the V5 RTR Kraton 6S actually has a lot of the durability upgrades from EXB, so should be fairly comparable to the Sledge (but is cheaper).

[@doubleaaaron]

I'm so sick of the whiny babies that defend one brand or the other. It's a toy! Yes I love them too, but holy cow! This is getting stupid. Just Like camaro vs mustang people. I think the same way Mark does, having the choice to have either is pretty cool. We should all be happy it isnt the fragile breaking cars from the 80's and super long charge times vs just a few minutes of run time.

[@minimountainscaleohvrcpark]

My kids are the same way. I give them each a truck and they chase each other with sticks and rocks

[@kyangsable]

Have them play real life rocket league using a beach ball with rc

[@SlickTrickRC]

Every rc will break. All depending on weather , driver skill, and knowledge of what is a "safe" jump. Ofcourse you got maniacs launching rc,s to the moon.. leave that up to chance. Rolling the dice at that point. Great video. Maybe your kids will like rc s more now. 👍

[@Islandpandemonium]

Your right, like their trying to break it.

[@iShootFast]

I've made that same call and dash up to Hobbytown Plano a few times myself. And always for Arrma parts. I got to drive the Sledge yesterday at Traxxas HQ store. . Fun truggy. I was surprised at how much better it felt than the eRevo 2.0. Felt much more solid and planted. IT was also alot easier to keep the nose down.

[@jvallido]

i think both are great. traxxas studied the flaws on the kraton and obviously fixed those issues. now it's arrma's move.

[@V8chump]

Exactly what I was thinking when I saw traxxas’ improvements on the Kraton design. Can’t be mad at competition!

[@TRAVELER197]

Fair assessment.

[@toolbaggers]

What's "better," Pepsi or Coke?

[@CCxRC]

Fun video regardless of the vehicles. The wheels blowing out after 15 runs though...as a non-racer who doesn't ever change tires...that's a bit concerning to me as I hate buying new tires. But it's always hard to tell because everyone drives their own way. So fun to see the boys out there having fun with RC and flipping them.

[@CCxRC]

@Memer Dreamer the truck overall is very impressive to me though. Mark has given it a very fair review in videos and I think people are absolutely gonna love it.

[@RODCOCKMAN]

My son is broke too 😂

[@SoulciaLight]

🤣🤐

[@westtxgreg]

Good comparison. I think they are both great cars and competition is great for our hobby. I have roughly $650 in my Kraton. $329 Black Friday, $20 metal gear servo, $260 Max 6 combo 1650kv 20T pinion, $40 Dumborc 6 channel w/avc. Gps at 66mph on grass on 6s, can run 8s. Stock punch setting (3). If the traxxas was $650-699 I’d own one as well. Can’t lose with either of these. 👍🏻

[@bluegroovemodelsports9650]

Back to Back trucks. Fun is fun either brand

[@fluellenmediabymarekusflue6320]

650 kraton v5 is more inline with the traxxas sledge. The exb can be any cost over 450. You can put a solid max 8 system for 200. That's 650. And decent remote and reciever for 100. It's 750. Servo you're at 800. 1000 is a upgraded price range. Imo.

[@lenharding72]

So the consumer wins by having 2 companies trying to make products that are a little better then the other guy. Just means they will be trying to one up each other! I am totally ok with that.

[@johnsharpnack2164]

Hello Mark,and Boys

[@mohammedkabir3009]

All due respect you dont need a program card to change the punch its all done with the power button on the firma esc You couldve saved some money if you did your research Just sayin

[@scuba6797]

Outing them on camera that they don't even like RC lol EMOTIONAL DAMAGE! Savage! The trama on those faces!

[@powerplunger3289]

How do kids not like rc cars

[@bobbylefebvre6298]

I like the hobby shop

[@truthvigilante2180]

Awesome

[@casperseibel7865]

Kids today 🤦‍♂️

[@drivenrc]

No way your telling us these kids don’t like RC’s when they out here front flipping and back flipping like professionals lol

[@patrickmccarthy3289]

they like RC racing at the tracks i think is what he was saying, not so much the other stuff

[@drivenrc]

@@patrickmccarthy3289 oh okay I gotcha. I guess racing RC’s is totally different than playing with RC’s that were mean to tumble 300 yards and survive. What type of RC cars do most people race? Buggies?

[@patrickmccarthy3289]

@@drivenrc lots of buggy, truggy and short course vehicles. Im a basher more so than anything else but it is a different mindset/purpose when you race competitively compared to just bashing in your street or local park.

[@TpPartsRcXtreme]

Good comparison, and let the boys do the driving🥰. The carnage wasnt to bad. And i enjoy both brands a lot❤, thank you, and happy weekend

[@NTX_RC]

I recently just got a Kraton 6s, my first basher and am looking for places in DFW to bash at. Know any good spots in DFW, I'm in north Fort Worth.

[@tannerspendlove1288]

Arrma Talion FTW

[@JoseTorres-fn1vk]

What's good

[@RCtitan1]

Awesome video you inspired me to get the sledge and show it on my channel Great work on your videos

[@jongonegone1262]

associated

[@jeremyshorey7440]

For which one is better comes down to which one puts a bigger smile on your face 😃

[@jongonegone1262]

kyosho

[@فيصلالشيباني-ش2ث]

عرضك جميل، ياليتك تتكلم العربية حتى أفهمك عزيزي 😔

[@pootube45]

Evan: easily back AND front flips 1/8 scale truggies on a natural transition also Evan: legit hates RC Me: 🤯🤯🤯

[@darrengaynor4966]

Hi mark, after owning them both a few months which would be your recommendation, I’m torn between the two.

[@jaygee9112]

Thanks for the video, but come on dude, the Sledge doesn't have $100 worth of servo or $200 worth of radio! Not even close, and it doesn't matter what Traxxas might charge for them. The radio is 2 channel for goodness sake! That doesn't make the Sledge a bad RC and I'm still contemplating buying one, but you sound biased by making up crazy numbers. Traxxas tires need to go in the trash out of the box though. Ain't no one gonna be replacing tires every few weeks or months and putting a decent set of wheels/tires on the Sledge is gonna bump the cost up significantly.

[@schtinerbock4570]

Lets see. Shock tower different, bumpers different, Arms different, tires different, motor placement is different, center brace is different, Aarma has center body support and sledge has endoskeleton. Hmmm, oh, they both have 4 tires, 4 shocks and a spoiler. Oh man traxxas clearly stole the idea from Aarma. How dare anyone make an RC with 4 tires and a spoiler? Man! Please. Buy what you like and quit giving a crap about what other people spend their money on. Like Mark said. Be glad you have choices.

[@peteryedica6510]

Hahahha! Typical…. You can’t expect kids to tell you “why” they like something! Hahahah! My son told me, “my job is to ask why… your job is to answer it… hahaha, kids!

[@tonysmith7989]

First of all the smiles and laughter is what it's all about. And obviously both are fun if you have 2 not into that can't really make up their mind which is better. They just had fun. Kinda, ok they had fun breaking dads stuff. Lol Ask any child, ok which of the dinner plates was more fun to smash?? Equally but have a hard time with remembering the name of the othe brand. Lmbo!!! Thx

[@JvD1985]

I introduced my 10yr old son to the arc and bought him a wltoys 124019 and he is addicted! When he comes from to school wants to tv first and forgets about his phone (Roblox etc) I’m so glad I can share my hobby with my boy

[@alexnava7664]

Oh man...

[@lawn2learn]

The * looks at name * Sledge ya the Sledge 😂🤘🏼

[@EngineeringAfterHours]

EXBs blow servos pretty easily because they have a poor steering linkage geometry. It's the reason I have my turning radius so high on my kraton. They need to shorten the mechanical travel.

[@iShootFast]

Yeah, and the servo saver design on the 5th scale is just..bad.

[@EXTREMERC416]

Didnt blow a since servo on mine yet. I use cheap 25kgs. The servo saver is in the soft side

[@nicethelyrical1529]

🤣 "That Backfired!" #gooddaddygang Bless ya Fam bro 🙏 I got two young sons 3y and 2mos 🙌🏾👑 Can't wait until they can play together as well💞💯🎯👊🏾🙌🏾

[@lucasthurner1195]

how are you doing wheelies that easy with the sledge bc when I floor my sledge my tires are just spinning but I can't do wheelies

[@SengLeeKoh]

It doesn't matter - if one says they prefer the sledge, it is like saying they prefer the kraton since it's a copy of the kraton's main design cues. If they they say they prefer the kraton, it becomes a slap to traxxas since they made a worse kraton.

[@joeyfesta2042]

Mark,it’s pronounced,Italian, without the I. 😆 so ( Talion ).

[@timonthornley2656]

WHAT!!! Only 8.25% tax on that bumper... Here in NZ its 15% Tax 😪

[@kevingalea92]

All those years of dad getting you both into r c cars and that's all they had to say come on guys wow lol

[@xtyano440]

That Truggy style truck is just like short course truck. Almost every brand has that style.

[@rhealgagnon1460]

Lmao they no nuthing of rc s .... kids pulls off a fron and back flip with easy in the first 5 min .... lmao

[@tyrellcorp2118]

Where did this math come from? $770 + $200 is north of $1000? Also, $200 for a transmitter and receiver? A TQi system is $130. With fair math, a comparable EXB is $900. With a less expensive servo and an ESC/motor from Jenny’s, the price will be $799, just like the Sledge.

[@patrickmccarthy3289]

exb kit plus all the stock parts to make it runnable puts it around $802 last I checked on Horizon website.

[@athlenick1502]

In Europe the Sledge costs 820 euro’s. An EXB 450, Max 6 ESC 165, 4092 Rocket motor 60, DS servo 30, dumbo rc transmitter/receiver 30. Total 735. Almost have money to spare for a M2C chassis…

[@jongonegone1262]

losi

[@MRMechanicRC]

Nice video dude! Was interesting to see how these monsters stacked up to each other. One thing I will mention though is that in the beginning the arrma was gonna run you just shy of $1k… realistically If you got all the stock Spektrum electronics from JennysRC (and I even made a video on it a while back and JRC is NOT a scam) then it would only be about $720. (I know you put a really nice Savox in there, but the stock S652 is $20 on JRC and from what I’ve seen is actually really fast and torquey) And as for the punch settings, you can adjust those with the little secondary button on the esc without the little programming card. Not trying to diss you or anything, and I like your content, just wanted to put that out there.

[@jamesblake1848]

We only have One Hobby Town USA in Indiana now days 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@coryharlow995]

Talian exb is 750 rtr so that would probably be a better comparison

[@rcsmith5909]

The servo was what l was going to bust you for paying $100 but it is a racing servo lol

[@nts323]

That’s cool they closed down are hobby town in Las Vegas 👍👍

[@jessjoshwyatt3571]

They both like the sledge but don't know why? Backfire lol

[@chrisritua4435]

Are you selling your pre-owned rc?1/8scale.tnx

[@DOUBLECheeseburger247]

Well…they weren’t kidding when they said all they wanted you to have to replace was the tires.

[@rovidbouski4022]

My Kraton 6s is a wheelie monster right out of the box

[@quadkrazykeith]

I dont see how the Talion would be a better comparison than the Kraton.

[@ashc3765]

As long as you got happy smiles all round then there both winners.

[@ВячеславУласевич-ч1ы]

Hey Mark! Thanks for the vids you make, awesome stuff! A bit off-topic here: did you think about reviewing some of Carisma trucks? Not a lot of info on youtube and most of it is kind of old. Not sure it's going to be interesting to a lot of people, but the price seems decent. And I think their Range Rover looks pretty cool. Happy to hear your thoughts!

[@fishnrc294]

Carisma makes some good RC’s my friend. I have the Coyote & it crawls as good as much more expensive Crawlers. I just replaced the wheelset.

[@famborste5813]

26 mins ago 😳😳😳😳😳

[@SoulciaLight]

🙃

[@ReadySetRC]

Great video guys👍

[@10krms54]

What ever happen to hobby town stores in California

[@rcsmith5909]

Good comparison they really dont care at all got to do it agin . Good vid 👌👍yourkids are cool 😎

[@tyrellcorp2118]

2 blown tires versus nothing broken on the EXB. The blown servo was an old one and not an EXB part. I think it’s fair to say a lot of people will be upgrading the Traxxas tires. Add $100 to the cost.

[@lucasnerfgun36]

Bobby town is where I buy all of my rc cars and parts

[@mohammedkabir3009]

Also The T-bone bumper is the best way better then exb bumper

[@FlashBro-r4w]

Hey preciate you pumping these videos out for those of us who are buying their next RC car and undecided. I think I’m buying the sledge next just because of product/ parts availability…. Which u outlined in the beginning of the video 😂

[@alparker182]

I'm getting mine at the end of the month! Can't wait! Have fun Rc'n man !!!!

[@patparsons8732]

Your kids are better drivers than me and I’m 33

[@kitchenbriks3685]

Lol trying to prove your not a traxxas fanboy.

[@famborste5813]

HOW DID YOU BREAK THE SLEDGE? NOT EVEN KEVIN TALBOT CAN DO THAT

[@rcloner1895]

Kevin hurt his pretty bad..... lmao. Go watch his last video

[@patrickmccarthy3289]

you must've missed his 2nd video. Slightly bent chassis, pinion gear came off and ended up stripping teeth of both the pinion and center diff. and bent rear left axle (dog bone) I believe.

[@V8chump]

Wonder how kevs would’ve held up if the motor mount screws had some loctite 🤔 debating on getting one myself that motor mount issue could be really annoying if loctite doesn’t solve it

[@rcloner1895]

Yeah I’m not sure about the j your mount.

[@theAessaya]

Oh, give him some time. He's already bent it on the first day :D

[@NepDouble07]

I can say with confidence just from owning both arrma and Traxxas, that the Traxxas will definitely have the better drivetrain. Other than that, if price is no object, both are great choices. One allows you to pick whatever electronics you want, and they other comes ready to go with pretty good specs. I do prefer the c-hubs on the sledge as compared to the pillowball hubs on the kraton 6s, as well as the fixed turnbuckles on the sledge, especially if they're more durable. But it is nice to have the tuning options on the kraton as well as the LSD differentials which is neat.

[@Sackmatters]

It took me 5 months of purposeful attempts to break my typhon 6s. I broke an a arm from 30’ in the air. I have yet to break my kraton exb. I race and bash 4 days a week for 3 hour sessions. I’ve broke Traxxas rigs right out of the box. Not saying I don’t own a fleet of them. I have 11 Traxxas rigs but they do break often.

[@js5906]

@@Sackmatters that’s cap

[@Sackmatters]

@@js5906 I have videos of it. I flexed the chassis so many times that my 4s has a permanent bend in it. I’m not arguing with someone who has a slash as their profile pic. My slash is the only Traxxas I have that doesn’t break every time I drive it.

[@patrickmccarthy3289]

@@Sackmatters we all have different experiences and the real issue is we dont acknowledge this. For example, my comparison story is....my hoss has yet to have any major breaks (only lower plastic shock cap part) and I sent in 20-30 times off big jumps. The amount of time (months/years) is really not something we can use as a metric as some people might drive their car 1 time in 6 months and another 30-50 times. That dude driving 1 time could break and have the worst exp, the other guy could break a few parts and be 100% extremely happy customer still. Now, back to my hoss story (maybe 2 battery packs through it at the time)...It was stock. I also had a stock NIB notorious, took it to the same places to jump (1 battery pack into it)...bent the chassis, bent both shock towers, and bent both rear shocks and also the top shock mount screw for 1 front shock snapped in half. I still enjoy both trucks. So it's very hard to take 1 persons experience as "this is the example we will all experience"

[@Sackmatters]

@@patrickmccarthy3289 I agree. I just find that Traxxas rigs are bound to fail especially in the cold and 6 months out of the year I’m driving my trucks in the snow. Even my x maxx breaks quite often. I installed a brand new front diff with ring and pinion. The first pack out on 6s it blew the front diff I had just replaced. $75 down the drain in 10 minutes.

[@brandonreid4511]

Also that Sledge slamming into the Kratons front wheels sideways for sure broke the servo! 👍

[@SlickTrickRC]

Your kids are natural drivers. Kudos to them for playing with rc,s when they didn't want to. 👏

[@980Derek]

It is a nice truck. Just not fond of the brand

[@rc_car_blog]

love your likeable videos 👍

[@thejeepinrealtor5742]

Been waiting for this!

[@daveybuckley117]

You gonna pick up the new tundra my man ? :p

[@randyseaver8319]

I'll take the sledge plz! 👍👍🤙👽😎😁

[@BrickRecords]

Awesome vid mark!

[@rcsmith5909]

You got to do this again cause l just bought the EXB 2 days before the sledge dropped. Also why l was mad in last comments lol.

[@Sackmatters]

Don’t be mad a kraton exb is amazing. Great basher truggy.

[@bobbylefebvre6298]

Nice video cool cars great channel

[@theduke_rc]

Cool comparison!

[@DPantoja-ld2fl]

Like me for sledge

[@rylankonen277]

Bash the drag slash you wont

[@RobertCarrizal]

GET SOME BADLANDS FOR SLEDGE!

[@S9RUT]

A servo (that isn't even related to the car) failing isn't really a good reflection of the truck.

[@DashzRight]

Thats what arrma fans usually say haha, but the geometry of the kraton is indeed a bad design thus making the servos more prone to fail. So yes it is a worse truck

[@bobbylefebvre6298]

Really good information

[@austinfisher8890]

Got to the exact same hobby shop

[@bobbylefebvre6298]

Enjoy the week cool review