Marky Ramone on His Pre-Ramones Band Dust

Marky Ramone talks with Graham 'Gruhamed' Hartmann about the reissues of the two albums he made with Dust in the early '70s. More here: loudwire.com

[@micknordstrom2591]

I have Hard Attack on vinyl and the drumming is incredible!

[@Forferdelse666]

Crazy good drums on the whole album, especially on Ivory!

[@justinhall2117]

Bass solos

[@carter358]

Dust (NY) and Pentagram (VA, DC) were two pivotal bands in the early days of Heavy Metal.

[@davidsiller9078]

I love DUST and bought both albums back in the day. I have since bought the reissued albums on CD!

[@paullevine1813]

In 71 i was at a record store & saw the first Dust Lp & got it for the cover, Got it home & put it on, WOW !!! Played it that night for friends who said the same thing, these guys are freakin hot, Turned out between Dust & Hard Attack that those 2 records would be some of the best hard rock lps ever, not just the 70s, Got to see them one time in DC < they were AWSOME . I was only 14 and went with a friend but my sister drove us there since we were to young to drive, Got stoned and had a blast !!

[@steverherb]

Wow, Marky was a hell of a drummer at such a young age. Never heard him play that style before I discovered Dust. Very cool stuff, and it deserves a place in the history of heavy rock.

[@CaseyKoplinCk13]

I Love both the dust albums!!!! My dad was into it, they were like my lullaby’s from my childhood. “From a dry camel” 🐪, and “suicide” are Magnificent Songs!!!! Fantastic.

[@vincentrathbone26]

That's awesome dude, Suicide is an absolute monster.

[@DogmadawgMAMR]

Suicide was so legendary, how did that kinda music come out of 1972

[@frankenspank1133]

Been havin those vinyls since the mid 70s! I freaked out on Hard Attack, the music, the album cover. Man...

[@michaelehrhart9670]

I have loved DUST for over 45 years...they were so good...find their discs!

[@bazzturd9414]

Sir Lord Baltimore, Randy Holden ("Population II" album), Dust, Bang, Stone Axe and Poobah: the very first heavy metal bands from the US.

[@logdogvlogs717]

and all their albums are so damn good !

[@carter358]

Don't forget Pentagram!!!

[@bazzturd9414]

@@carter358 I left out many!

[@paulosicne8498]

I love Dust. Richie Wise is rock genius, great songs! It's funny because it didn't dawn on me until days later of the first time hearing Dust, that I noticed it was Marc Bell was Marky Ramone, on the drums. AND never realized how great of a drummer he is. Dust should have blown up more, again those songs are great.

[@scottroberts3011]

DUST were all fantastic musicians. Anyone who has heard these two Dust albums will agree with me. I have both original copies and the new remasters. I wish they would have gotten a bigger push by the label and continued their awesome band.

[@spartacus836]

Shoot, love anything MARKY RAMONE!!!! And he's great to hear on an interview. Love to hear him talk!! xxx The Reverend Martini

[@x00p3]

Back in the early to mid 70's the heaviest bands were Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Uriah Heep and Dust. It's too bad Dust didn't get more national airplay as they were very popular in the St Louis area because the FM station KSHE 95 often played their albums.

[@Stzit]

It's funny that Dust would tour clubs and when they get to St. Louis, they would play the Kiel Auditorium, which is where larger rock acts like Montrose, Rolling Stones, Kiss, The Who, Rush, Uriah Heap, etc would perform.

[@zoonie96]

Kiel was my escape from my military upbringing at Scott… labeled as Satanic I was, the very entity I grew up fearing so u can imagine what trauma I felt at the moment I was called satanic because I listened to aforementioned bands… but DUST was badass time stamps I hadn’t heard

[@Qingeaton]

I have them both. Bought them back in the day. Listened to one just days ago.

[@powerviolenceog]

Dust should of been HUGE! Just found out about them in January 2019 when looking for some of the heaviest 70s bands unknown to a mainstream audience. Used to be in hardcore Punk powerviolence group. DIY and at that time you got lost in the mix unless you signed. Now 30 years later a new generation is into it more than the generation that witnessed it originally. See I didn't put my band's name in so I'm not fishing for any fans. Just another person that comments on a social media site. And the KZbin vortex shitz out a Jem or two. Same as the Netflix vortex. You get deep enough you will find something way out in left field that got lost in the shuffle. And it turns out it's amazing. More people should know about this band. Now that I've heard it I'm telling all my friends to listen to Marky Ramone's first band. Since a lot of them are Punk they are very curious. I hope then in turn they share the links. Blah blah blah verbose diarrhea. Thank you so much for posting this. Oh I just noticed my avatar and it was a symbol for one of my bands. Nudge nudge wink-wink

[@maggietheiring2224]

I discovered them when I was 17 in 2011 and it blows my mind how early they pioneered metal

[@briankehew579]

This is what Mark sounds like when he's VERY excited.

[@dennissweeney6774]

Two of my favorite album's love this band. ROCK ON my FRIENDS.

[@Xtraplus92]

Excellent !!

[@terenceboris851]

DUST is unbelievable

[@mikeFolco]

The Dust records are so fun.

[@guitarskeepmesane4958]

The guitarist for the band is my relative and I just found out that he played with marky Ramone back in the day, turns out he also produced the first kiss album which I never knew lol

[@buckrogers8024]

That's awesome. I just bought both albums.

[@arithefinnishmusiclover]

Dust was an Incredibly Awesome band ! ! I have both of their albums on Cd ! ! 😀😎🥰💪

[@pfordsq]

Dee Dee was asked if Marky did'nt just put on a uniform and become a Ramone. He said , Marky was dressing like we do , in Dust. It's true. As he says , Dust was'nt Punk , but they were experimenting with tempos more akin to Speed Metal before teh genre existed. I pointed out to Marky , once , that Dust would go from "Spaghetti Western" patterns , and go straight into this aggressive Metal onslaught. Metallica had the same concept in mind , and people thought it was new. Marky downplays his technique with The Ramones , here , but , the stuff he was doing was anything but simple. A simple Rock beat , yes , but he added these embellishments that were deceptively complicated. Blue Cheer's drums were hard to hear? Well , if I were a drummer , I guess I'd agree , but , Paul Whaley played loud and hard as fuck.

[@derunsympath]

alot of people say ramones songs are easy. then they proceed to play them with up and downstrokes..

[@robertdimeglio7155]

They were freakin AMAZING!

[@bnine]

Thanks for story Marky......DUST rules!

[@vincesarmento4854]

Rock On Ramones and the MC5 !

[@thatkidfortokyo]

good stuff ! thanks for the re issue !!!

[@danielbritton8588]

Doing Ramones stuff must have been a breeze compared to the ideas rolled out for Dust. I love Dust & wish there was more than 2 albums. Like Captain Beyond with their 3 albums. Good stuff.

[@m.b.4164]

Saw him live....great.

[@thelokifiles]

Great band.

[@hombrelunar5194]

quiero esos discos aguante marky

[@BadBoatBand]

Used to give this Loudwire guy a by-ball cause he was young but him having to look for the name of the second album there just killed that.

[@Chris-rr5jq]

Great work with Ricahrd Hell and the Voidoids too !!

[@krisscanlon4051]

Very good and underrated plus under advertised etc. Really bad azz records...Marky is wicked on drums plus Kenny and Richie playing

[@brickedupgranny]

dust is so underrated.

[@Luk4zguy97]

Amazing bands

[@sawg4607]

Dust Hard Attack kicks ass!

[@TheJeffcurran]

Around 1973 my mom's boyfriend bought a 7-1/4" Ampex reel to reel tape recorder from some guy that needed cash. It came with a dozen tapes. They weren't clearly marked. One tape had this recording with Pink Floyd's Piper at the Gates of Dawn and some other band that we just called UNKNOWN. I had been searching KZbin for UNKNOWN for countless years. About 2 years ago I found it. The first Dust record. Probably my all time favorite record.

[@Gentlem1]

That's a great story.

[@impalaman9707]

On Blue Cheer--"You couldn't hear the drums". Give them a break--their first LP was produced by an off duty cop on a record label that manufactured light bulbs!

[@matthatter2849]

No studio could contain the sheer volume of Blue Cheer! The recording and mixing equipment couldn't handle it.

[@impalaman9707]

@@matthatter2849 That's why on the second record they went outside and had the best engineer money could buy, Edwin G Kramer, and those drums sound out of this world--especially on tracks like "Sun Cycle". I'm surprised Philips, the light bulb company/record label, had the budget for that!

[@aurorajellycrissramones9466]

Love in my tummy I used to sing that when I was baking cookies as a toddler, no one told me it was about being pregnant, everyone would just be quiet, I thought they were waiting for cookies.

[@metrichotrods1763]

Dust are time travelers...they dropped the best album of 2020 in like 72

[@SuperMetalmanic666]

Dust is an awesome band. I haven't really listen to the ramones much though. Not too big on punk though I do respect it.

[@Hoolaballoo]

Of course I've purchased this new twoofer. But I'm looking for an original copy on vinyl of "Hard Attack"

[@gordonhunt1454]

Whats the story behind the first album cover? it looks like mummys and one of them has a note pinned to him and the other is holding a sign? the first guy looks like hes wearing glasses?

[@savinsavin8387]

Dust👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@GoldStandardGames]

"Yummy, yummy. yummy I got love in my tummy." LOL! Love you, Marky.

[@13tooth41]

Love me some Dust \m/ #MidwestMetalAlliance \m/

[@TheBretDark]

He was born in 1956? That means he was only 15 and 16 when he recorded the two Dust albums in 71 and 72... That can't be correct, if it is that's really insane....

[@bma109]

Buddy ♫ born 15 July 1952.. twin brother called Fred.

[@mudleydatthews]

It is true, as he said, he was a high school youngster when the first album was produced

[@dapster]

+Brett Allen 1956, not 1952. So yes, he was 15 when he recorded the first Dust album.

[@bma109]

+dapster Marky's autobiography " Punk Rock Blitzkrieg" ( page 8) says............ " On July 15, 1952, my twin brother, Fred, and I were born at New York Infirmary Hospital." But Wiki says........ " Marky Ramone (born Marc Steven Bell on July 15, 1956; some sources cite 1957)[1]

[@timbrown57]

​@@bma109 Wiki is wrong. He was born in 1952. He was like 17-20 or so when he was in Dust.

[@gazriley624]

Dust were excellent

[@superunknown2812]

Really think if dust kept going as a band they could have been up there with sabbath and zeppelin those 2 albums were so good for the time

[@GhostRanger5060]

Dust was, indeed, pioneer US Metal. Lots of the period British stuff was blues--like Led Zeppelin--and psychedelic stuff that turned into true metal in the 70s like Deep Purple. The glam stuff was heavy pop stuff. Sometimes heavy metalish -- like Sweet could be. Black Sabbath were true pioneers. But In the US there was little true metal -- Steppenwolf, Iron Butterfly... mostly all just psychedelic stuff or high powered boogie-woogie stuff. Dust was very unique indeed.

[@niloduarte7266]

We add ivory as an openning for our juke box

[@CathedralGuitar]

In St. Louis, DUST was bigger than Elton John. They probably drew their biggest crowds there, as they were played constantly on KSHE 95 Real Rock Radio, and they played major concert halls every 3-4 months. I agree with Marky that their management was really bad. First 2x DUST records are way better than the first 2x Alice Cooper records or the first 2x David Bowie records.

[@pgo301]

Much more obvious complexity in DUST than the Ramones. Wonder why they only put out 2 albums when they were really on their way!

[@bashafradkin-gelmanopie6593]

Mark was invited to my historic landmark restaurant, The Coachman for BJ's birthday. I know him from DUST with Kenny Aaronson and Richie Wise. Kenny Kerner is wrong about student loans. They have a low interest rate, will re-negotiate payment terms to reduce overhead and help you get an education

[@joshpennington8261]

I have original both albums

[@Donjonneau]

“…] and the songs were longer than two minutes long (CHUCKLES)” Yeah, that’s exactly what I like about music.

[@impalaman9707]

Imagine Neil Peart from Rush joining a punk band and being asked to simplify his drum technique--first of all, he would never take such an offer, and even if he did, he would feel he was demeaning himself to stoop to such a level. I dunno, maybe Marky was desperate for work at the time he joined the Ramones. The irony is that Punk is all about freedom, but if you're gifted, what others consider freedom, is restriction for you. It's why Eddie Van Halen could never play guitar for the Clash, he would be BEGGING to solo at least once!

[@MrThumper1440]

Kinda looks like Paul Stanley here! Hahaha

[@jeffwhite3625]

Great albums, got em both. God I miss the 1970's.

[@AceOfHeart2012]

Listen to those two records and tell me that Clutch didn't cop them big time.

[@timbrown57]

Everybody who has played metal had some kind of influence from them - it may be several layers deep, but it's in there somewhere. I was going,"How in the hell did I miss DUST?" Those two records are awesome.

[@erikmolnar6585]

Johnny come lately!!! Haha jk..that was rediculouse. I love John but did anyone slap the sh$t out of him that day? Listening to the Audible Audiobook release of your book for the seventh time. Its really good and full of punk history from an nyc perspective

[@arnavdhankar3577]

Suicide is the best song ever made

[@joejoe7212]

hey sweet cheeks did you find what you were looking for ?

[@davemustang8173]

Marky was wasted in the ramones

[@maggietheiring2224]

Tell me Suicode doesn't sound like Metallica. Tell me that...

[@williamsafewright4712]

Yes it does. Been thinkinf that for 25 years.

[@On_Dust]

He said that there was no punk before the 70s. Yes, there was. Garage rock was a form of proto punk. Garage rock is also known as 60s punk.

[@mmestari]

Yeah it's garage rock not punk. "Garage rock is also known as 60s punk." It's not "known", It's incorrectly called that by people who know less about the subject than Mark.

[@Foxentails]

Calling that pair of albums metal is a stretch

[@thetonupsband9053]

Huge overplayer… But that’s teenage drummers. They want to be n the front of the stage but they are at the back. So you overplay to get noticed. It’s innocent phycological behavior. He pulled it back in the Ramones and Voidoids. Thanks to punk’s simplicity and Tommy Ramone being alive :))

[@JW-or5xj]

Read his biography. He comes off as a douche. He "dusted" over his alcoholism and used his book to crap on Joey, johnny and dee dee.... especially Johnny. He's an ok drummer that was lucky to get hooked up with the Ramones. He has no writing credits on any of the songs, so basically he did the job of a drum machine. he should thank his lucky stars that he had the opportunity.

[@Powers3848]

Probably why he's still in the same spot decades later with nothing new of his own.

[@kosycat1]

So many good early hard rock and metal bands in America. iron butterfly, vanilla fudge, Catus, Bang, mountain, orange wedge, mc5, frijid pink, highway robbery, yesterdays children

[@stuartmorris6299]

Frigid pink? Good?

[@kosycat1]

So many good early hard rock and metal bands in America. iron butterfly, vanilla fudge, Catus, Bang, mountain, orange wedge, mc5, frijid pink, highway robbery, yesterdays children

[@timolson2047]

Sir Lord Baltimore and Steppenwolf!!

[@impalaman9707]

@@timolson2047 Please replace Steppenwolf with Blue Cheer. I found Steppenwolf to be relatively weak and overrated compared to HUNDREDS of other stronger and harder bands throughout North America I discovered over the years from that far overlooked time period of what we call proto-metal. The most talented of which was The Frost

[@timolson2047]

@@impalaman9707 I have yet to hear anything from The Frost. My uncle was a fan of their music. I need to check'em out!!

[@impalaman9707]

@@timolson2047 I want you to listen to the most underrated rock song of all time by the Frost--its EPIC! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZC8dHygepeVfKc