Marlin 1894 Quality Issue

I bought a brand new Marlin 1894 from Gun Broker. When I got it there was an issue with the action sticking. So before I even shot it I sent in in for warranty repair. When I got it back the action was better but not fixed. I was ready to live with the action issue but then I noticed that the front sight was loose and there was no way to tighten the sight screw. So back to Marlin for a second repair ugh! I love the Skinner Sight that I added.

[@frederickmartin6998]

There is no excuse for such defects being allowed to leave the factory. Just shoddy work. And no quality control.

[@worldhello1234]

"There is no excuse for such defects being allowed to leave the factory. " Off course there is. His girlfriend was on the period and he had to rush home. :D

[@randymorrison6804]

I agree. Should have never been allowed to leave the factory unless it was 100%.

[@davidgutknecht5814]

My wife and daughter both have Marlin 1894 rifels in 357Mag my daughters has the gold trigger. Both of these guns has worked flawlessly since new.

[@pagamenews]

You know something? I LOVE gun videos like this one. Why? Because 99 percent of the gun talk on KZbin is a person that bought a brand new firearm and has little experience shooting the thing...and all they do is heap praise on the gun(s) and about how proud they are for owning the thing(s). Hello? How about some critical analysis of these guns? I would much rather purchased a USED gun that was made in an American factory from the mid 1950s to the mid 1970s. That's when craftsmen who knew their trade were producing some of the finest commercial firearms ever made. I too have purchased new guns that were made in the 2000's and have mostly been disappointed by the quality control.

[@jeff9062]

I have the 45/70, love it! No problems, very accurate. Got mine in 2016.

[@4everjeeper]

I bought one this past year 2018 and so far so good, seems good quality fit and finish is good but then I guess time will tell, im still a marlin fan I still think its a good bang for the buck although I wouldn't mind owning a Henry one day

[@quicktoevil]

Have a 2015 M95 here that here without fault.

[@mariokart8054]

Now Ruger will be making Marlins, hopefully the QC is a lot better

[@kamikaze4928]

I'm not much of a Stryper fan, but I like the Michael Sweet songs ;)

[@richardthomas6602]

My jm guide gun's factory sight had the wrong buckhorn sight on it and could not be raised high enough to bring the impact point up to the point of aim. After replacing it with an xs ghost ring I could not move the rear sight far enough to the left to center the shot group. Replacing the adjustment screw with a longer one solved this. Now heart shots are easy inside 100 yards. It has become my favorite rifle of all time.

[@kevincraig6407]

My sentiments exactly mario!

[@edprince9079]

I bought a ruger/marlin 1894 two weeks ago. Had it three days,didn't fire it, had to send it back in to have the rear sight replaced. The sight is plastic and was cracked evidently. Fell completely apart. It was replaced by a new plastic sight. No excuse to stick a cheap plastic sight on an expensive rifle. Wonder if the interior parts are all good. I won't be shooting the rifle at all.

[@stormrider9831]

I am very near the end of my 8th decade on this speck in the universe and appreciate the presentation by Sharps 1874. As a son of the Great Basin, lever guns were all I knew growing up in cow country. It is sacrilege to mount a scope on a lever gun 😅. Great video. Rough Country Horses Storm

[@BaconMyMouth247]

I have a model 94 made in 1907, chambered in 44-40, and a model 336 from 1962, chambered in .35 Rem. They are both great shooters. The action on the 94 is really smooth. It's a shame to see Marlins QC go down hill so much.

[@usmc2511]

Thanks for the heads up, I was about to pull the trigger on a new Marlin 44 mag but I think I'm going with Henry now.

[@vanparker2161]

I have to agree with you sir!

[@TheGDizzo]

BOTH the 336BL I bought in 2014, AND the 1894 I bought in 2019...BOTH... came... from the factory... with the front site blade super loose like that within the dovetail. I could reach-up with my fingers and move them probably 2-3mm side-to-side. When the 1894 came in... I had the guy behind the counter check it first with his fingers while I observed him, explaining that it's also how I rec'd my 336 so I wanted them to check it so they couldn't say it was something I did. Now... my vision is bad now that I've hit 50yo, so I knew I needed to run an optic anyway (Weaver Classic 1-3x20mm are awesome on these rigs), so I went that route. Since you had this video, wanted to make sure to share my comment as well so others could be aware. With the 1894... 1st time to range... I shot, it was either 50 or 100 rds... and then the lever bound up! The spring-loaded loading port cover, it's screw had loosened up so that door was drooping inward. I figured that out after I got home. Easy fix, tightened that screw... the door tightens up... lifts back outwards away from the inner workings of the action, cool. Go back 2nd trip to the range... similar number of rounds.... the lever locks up even tighter than before! Was real upset. Was planning to use this rifle this season for my deer. Was really looking fwd to it. Sent in for warranty repair, submitted with description. I had to remove lever, open up magazine tube empty that. But the round in the action was very marred-up on the side of the casing, and had to pry it out of the magazine tube hole. They said 12wks. It took significantly less than that. Their repair document says "Carrier Broken". How the hell do you have a brand spanking new rifle have such an issue? To their credit, my 336BL works fine. Just doesn't like the Barnes TSX FN rounds though. The lip on the hollow-points seems to want to bind-up with something within the action. So just use the Federal Premium Trophy Copper instead. They have a Roundnose Polymer insert in them and seem to cycle flawlessly. With both rifles, I did seem to notice that they are more inclined to have the action want to bind if when you are actuating the action... and you are not holding the firearm perdendicular to the Earth. (Such as when wanting to unload the rounds when you get back to the truck) So I thought that was real interesting just now that in your video... you showed how that slight bit of sideways pressure could cause problems. Just like holding the rifle not perpendicular to the Earth would do in terms of gravity forces.

[@MrTowton1461]

I bought one of these back in the late 90's when they boasted a micro grove barrel. The marlin I have shoots absolutely brilliantly. So accurate and easy to shoot in .357. I've heard that recent ones are absolute crap with poor workmanship on the metal and wood. What are they thinking at that company? Everyone I speak to says they wouldn't touch Marlin with a bargepole here in the UK. Such a shame. Hope they sort their shit out over there.

[@boostimalaka1]

Own a 1894P .44 Magnum JM marked barrel. I was at the range a few weeks before opening day deer hunting season started. I was approached by a gentleman that offered to buy my Marlin. My rifle is in mint condition and I wasn't selling it. He said that I was smart for not selling it because of the new Marlin problems with quality control. A few gunshops will tell you the problem was in the beginning years 2007-2010. Apparently those quality control issue persist.

[@marklarobina1009]

Just when you think you are convinced to buy one ! I'll never sell my JM stamped rifles

[@TheShawna1]

Yeah I was going to buy one of these for hunting! loved my friends fathers 336 so smooth! I'm glad i never bought one of the Remlins! and i'm sorry to say my father passed away a couple of months ago, and his sister which i haven't seen in 25 years passes me a blanket After the funeral and says my father had stored this with her for years, and it was a 1968 336 in NOS condition!, and i knew my father never hunted or even liked shooting.... I know he bought this to make money but I will never sell this rifle .jim

[@johnhamre990]

Correct sir a wise man said you know what you got when you buy a Remington you buy junk

[@gregjonson3958]

thanks...just purchased a 1895 trapper model in 45/70. I live in Alaska and work as hunting guide. very informative tutorial...thanks again

[@richardsveum8452]

I bought myself an 1894 in 2010 as the first gun purchase after my divorce thinking it would be a great little deer rifle, The quality seemed decent, fit and finish were good and accuracy out of the box was better than I expected. After the 2nd box of Winchester white box factory ammo all of a sudden accuracy went to hell, I had it examined by a gunsmith friend who told me the barrel had a crack in it under the forearm cap. When I tried to send it back to Marlin/Remington for repair they accused me of firing over pressure hand loads and refused to cover the gun. Done with Marlin period aside from Grandpa's old Model 36ADL. I now own a Henry Big Boy in .44 mag and couldn't be happier.

[@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594]

My buddy just bought an identical 1894 brand new and his rear sight snapped right off while wiping it down with a cloth after "un-boxing" it. It's going back too ! I just called him and notified him to also check for the defects that you mentioned before shipping it tomorrow. His also chewed up the brass cases, just running cartridges through the tube and ejecting them through the action unfired. Thanks for the heads up !

[@candidx7057]

Thank you! I dearly loved my '96-97 1894 .357 with Williams aperture sights. Regrouping after a divorce I wanted to buy another like it. I heard and read stories about how Marlin's quality had taken a dive, so decided to just do without. I guess they still haven't gotten it back together. That front sight of yours is inexcusable. Good luck with it.

[@amasoak47]

My 1894c had the same issue, bolt getting stuck on the hammer preventing it to go into battery. Did some research and many claim the loading gate is the issue, it wasn't on mine. My Fix: Removed buttstock and lightly sanded sticky areas in the stock where the tang meets the stock. Tang and stock should mate without too much pressure, slight friction is okay. There was enough friction between metal and wood to interfere with the hammer/bolt operation. It's smooth as butter now.

[@kevinrollman3101]

I bought one in 2019 it is a Marlin 1895 Cowboy Action Model. 18.5” octagonal barrel with Ballard rifling, 6+1, walnut butt stock and forearm, and I must tell you this Marlin lever gun is just beautiful!! Metal to wood fitting is excellent. Lever action is just like I wanted it. It is firm but smooth. This rifle shot bullseyes at 50 feet with no adjustment to the sights whatsoever!! It is a wonderful lever gun and I love it, it is just like a cannon chambered in of course 45-70 !! Remington made this lever gun perfect!!

[@plowboysghost]

I bought an 1895 CBA .45-70 last week....manufacture date code is November of 2016. The action was a little stiff, but 45 minutes with 220-grit sandpaper and a small file and it runs as smooth as any of the over half dozen JM Marlins I've owned over the last three decades. The wood fit is good, and it feeds, fires, and functions just fine. It DOES, however, hit several inches LOW at 25 yards, even with the rear sight at it's highest setting. I could easily take some off the front sight, but I wanted a peep sight anyway, so I'll just put a Skinner sight on it and decide then. I have never sent a gun in for warranty work, but I don't fault anyone who gets a loose front sight base that can't be tightened with a broken screw from the factory, for sending it back to be fixed. I've owned guns from other manufacturers that had more issues than this 2016 Marlin.....and I would definitely buy one again.

[@rodneylucas2930]

I bought a Marlin 1895 45-70 in November of 2018 and couldn't be more pleased with it. The fit and finish is great and the accuracy is awesome.

[@Sharps-im4lb]

Rodney Lucas as I have said in other videos, I love my marlin 336. Some are good and some are not

[@mamanes1]

I bought a used Marlin 1894 about a year ago. It was manufactured in 1976 (no receiver safety) and chambered in 44 mag. No issues with mine except I did not like the factory Sights. I ended up with Skinner Sights and had to get the 0.5 inch front blade. When I replaced the front blade, I was able to remove the factory blade by just sliding it out! Possibly he reason I didn’t like the factory sight! All is good now and I love the gun!

[@williamstansbury2717]

Hunted for an 1894 for several years to go with my Ruger Vaquero in .44Mag. New I had to find an older one if I was going to be happy. Finally found one last Fri made in 1971 awesome little rifle smooth action, decent trigger and a saddle ring.

[@patrickkohls4041]

When I was looking for a 45 70...I was looking at a marlin....the gun store that I went to..talk me into a Henry...before I bought it...I compared the 2 guns...and the Henry looked so much better....so that's y I got the Henry....nice video

[@tjmooremusic]

I've considered a marlin but you've convinced me to stick with Henry . The exception would be if I broke down, laid out alot ot money and got a Winchester. Though manufactured in Ipon they still hold great rep for quality control.

[@jasondaniel918]

January 2020 - Thanks for an informative video. You just helped me decide to buy a Henry. I have a Marlin 336 chambered in 35 Remington that has been a bush gun for a couple of decades. Old production, high quality. I am very happy with it, and have no intention of parting from it in this lifetime. I am now in that market for a lever action rifle chambered in 45 Long Colt. As I said, when I get one, it will be a Henry.

[@pseudopetrus]

I just got a new marlin 1895 and I tightened some of the screws before I ever shot it which is a good practice for any new gun. I then was adjusting the semi buckhorn sight and the little screw that holds the "notch" plate broke with very little pressure. Not a big deal, but the quality is not the same as my FN Winchester Model 70. I like the gun, it is a keeper, but I would rather spend extra money and have it of a higher quality.

[@kennethbailey2616]

Since Remington bought Marlin they’ve gone down hill fast. I have an older 1895 SS in 45/70 and it has worked great for many years.

[@Gunners_Mate_Guns]

I count my lucky stars that my 39A was bought brand new in 1984, right when Marlin was probably turning out the highest quality ever in their storied history. It's my favorite gun, and only death will make it leave my hands, to be passed down to a (future) grandchild.

[@MegaDavyk]

Henry is hard to beat these days

[@zackzielinski3340]

There is another screw underneath the front blade that you can tighten. You have to drift the blade out from left to right (looking from breech to muzzle).

[@sebastianhabel7312]

I had the same problem with the lose front sight on my .357 built in 2018 I assume. The screw wouldn't go any tighter and the front sightI was wobbly. So I removed the screw and cleaned the space it goes in, which was full of a mix of grease and metal powder I guess. After that I was able to fully tighten the screw, and now everything is solid.

[@dougfinn]

I bought a 94 in .44 and had to send it back immediately as the bore look liked it had been finish with a dull rat tail file. They replaced the rifle. The replacement had the same loose sight you have. It fell right off while I was shooting it. Sent it back a second time to have that fixed. It also had huge gaps between the metal and wood, which was the final straw for me and I moved it down the road. I also bought an 1895 about the same time. That one was also returned as the breech would shave brass off the cartridge when a round was loaded into the chamber. The replacement was ok but it also had serious fit and finish problems. It’s gone also and I’ll keep away from Marlin for now. Maybe with Ruger making them they will become a better rifle.

[@n.c.108]

Wow I was thinking about buying a Marlin 94. Then I’ve hearing about these “Remlins” and issues with quality. I guess I’ll go with Henry now. Too bad , I preferred the side load.

[@Rumblestrip]

N. C. Try a Winchester 1886 action. It's used by a whole lot of reproduction guns. I've yet to see one of them screwed up, you still have a loading gate to.

[@dominator146]

Ehh this whole Marlin, Henry thing seems kind of fishy to me. Marlin goes under, and Henry which makes almost the same exact types of rifles(at a higher cost) is pulling in the profits. I think some corporate espionage type shit went down.

[@marineimaging]

Same here, but i think I will wait until I can find a stainless JM model.

[@rolyatknarfable]

Don't know why, but Cowboy Action shooters never use Henrys. I'd ask why before buying a Henry.

[@markrhuett]

@@rolyatknarfable I think it's because Henry's use a tube for loading and takes longer to load compared to the side loading of the Marlins and others....

[@SJFijianRick]

I loved lever guns. My grandfather had a old 22 that he used to teach me with on how to shoot. Years later I bought I a 30 30 mode 336 lever action from big 5 in 2011 and sound the issue with the front sight and also had problems with the rear sight.

[@KW86.]

Some story, Marlins macanic should've known better. Supervisor should've had final inspection before shipping. Teaches me to buy new from local gun dealers. Pay more less headaches.

[@jamesbreeden3061]

That is what I do. If I order a gun, I still give it a thorough inspection at the gun shop before I accept it. The are no excuses for this sort of thing with firearms. It is not acceptable

[@mmabagain]

Guys! Marlin is gone. We are now stuck with Remlin. I bought a Henry instead and couldn't be happier.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

So to top off the mag, you basically need a workbench.

[@carwin90]

me too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Henry has finally listened to the requests of thousands, over many years, and released 4 calibers with gate-loaders. Bit it's only one model, in one finish, in 4 calibers. Marlin isn't gone. Marlin is back. And just as good as it was. Really wish this tale would finally die and people would get back to buying them.

[@SamofCR]

I just bought an 1894 Marlin in 44 Mag. Pristine condition, NO crossbolt safety. Functions perfectly. Had to pay $140 for a large loop that Marlin should have put on, factory. Love the rifle, no issues. BTW; it was built in 1970. JW stamp.

[@anon2240]

This is the bad thing about Remington taking over Marlin. They fired all of the old company's employees who knew how to build the rifles and all of their knowledge was thrown in the trash heap Quality was bound to suffer and it appears that Remington has still not got it's act together on the manufacture of Marlin rifles.

[@Brett235]

Thanks for the video sir. My dad is somewhat of a collector of Marlin rifles and he has many. With that said he went to purchase a new 336 and came home empty handed simply because of the loose tolerances and poor craftsmanship of the fit of the furniture. He has some old Winchester rifles also but he loves his Marlins.

[@donpaterson4476]

A lot of the Remlins got dumped in Australia that were so bad when you fired on the bolt came back and the bases of the shell expanded so much you couldn't resize them at all ,even in a Forster press.

[@stevegee7623]

I had the same issue on my mid-80's 336CS (bought new at that time). Just so happens to be the last Marlin I ever purchased.

[@pagamenews]

My interests in Marlin lever guns went by the wayside when they started adding the EXTRA side button safety. I will still buy Marlin rifles - but only if they are guns that were manufactured in the fifties, sixties and seventies.

[@richardburnett-_]

Finding vintage "JM" stamped 1894s, built at the "real" factory (research the serial#s) is worth the patience and easy homework. Skinner peep sights HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.

[@JBDRLSOARK]

I bought a 1894 in 2017 and mine runs very slick and always has. I took a nice doe with it back in November, I guess you can get a lemon in any gun. I'm sure glad I didn't, sorry for you.

[@studlyload]

Same here, Jerrell. I let my local guy clean up the trigger action, and this baby has been a beast for over two years.

[@vanparker2161]

I haven’t been that lucky. Both my 336ss and 1895SBL were of poor quality. I sold the 336ss and sent the 1895SBL twice before waiting 6 months on a replacement rifle.

[@ilfarmboy]

I have a marlin .22 I got in1981 had troubles with the cartridges feeding into chamber all it needed was a piece if metal in front of the chamber to be bent slightly and it has been working great ever since

[@rjstewart]

Great video! I have a 336 I bought last year and it's a fantastic rifle. .7 MOA grouping with my reloads. Fit and finish is fantastic. While it suck, the lesson here is probably "Buy face to face or in a store" when it comes to these Marlin rifles to avoid getting a dud. :-(

[@stevendeatley4878]

thanks for the info ,I was thinking of getting one of these rifles ,but I will go with the Henry now.thanks.

[@johnhamre990]

My brother just bought a 1894 marlin 44 made in 1976 new in box I cant wait till it arrives 800 dollars well spent

[@jasonkoestner4630]

Sad story I have a Marlin jm 336 in 30-30 no push button safety on the action buetiful gun last Marlin I bought was a 1895 cowboy in 45-70 26in octagonal barrel from 2016 action was smooth great wood fit just got lucky but got rid of it when my best friend died and left me his Winchester 1886 45-70 24inch barrel action reworked back to original Tang safety removed rebounding hammer changed to half cock I got it because I found it at our favorite gun store he took the Winchester I took the Marlin should have kept it great video keep them coming

[@jerdog333]

Thank you for doing this video! I've been trying to talk myself into gettin a Marlin because I want a side loading lever gun. But I keep hearing about these problems and these guns aren't cheap! I will have to wait for Henry to come out with the side loader in the caliber I want. Thank you! I hope you got your rifle fixed.

[@rideordie295]

I hear more good things than bad with marlins plus the new CEO has made changes that started to go into effect late in 2019 to bring back the quality people expect. My local FFL told me when I order my marlin that they were always selling out of them.

[@jerdog333]

@@rideordie295 I actually got a new Marlin 1894 CSBL and had to return it because the barrel was so off center I had to put the front sight all the way left (to where it was hanging out of the dovetail cut) and the rear sight all the way right as far as it would go just to hit point of aim. I sent it back for them to inspect because they just thought I couldn't shoot. It was so bad they refunded my money no questions asked. Haha.

[@ritesideofthefence5857]

Bought a Henry big boy steel ..357, then .45 colt next is .44 ...see a pattern here. Henry’QC and customer service is the best out there. Now I have A late 60’s marlin JM 336 in 30/30 and .35remington but those are totally different animals. I am sticking with Henry going forward. 100% percent American made by Americans for Americans. Good luck and thanks for sharing

[@johnle1958]

I just bought a Marlin 1894CB. I had a similar problem with the action. I would open the lever and it would not go back. I noticed that the hammer was not at full cock. If I pushed down on it , it would function. Come to find out the buttstock has two tabs that fit into the receiver. I shortened them about 1/8" and it now works fine.

[@imwatchin7770]

Ha! Been shooting my Winchester Trapper 44 mag since 1987 with no issues at all. Tons of heavy reloads through it and it is still an tack driver. Uses factory sights and plus the stock is burl walnut and even the dealer said he had never seen a finer stock on a factory gun. It's not a safe queen either. It's my everyday tote through the thick woods gun, Only Marlin I own is a model 66 that is over 35 years old and is the most accurate 22 lr I have ever had. You would have to fight me for that gun. I love it.

[@Nick-wn1xw]

Mine is awesome. As is my new 336C and 1895. All made in 2016. Great guns.

[@mikecampbell5856]

The last three rifle purchases were the Henry Big Boy in .357 magnum, the .Henry 45-70 steel lever action and the Henry Single Shot steel in .243. The lever guns are perfect and I have only owned the single shot for less than a week but it looks perfect as well.

[@Rumblestrip]

Just got an 1895cb last week. Feeding issues, and the action requires slamming open to get it to function properly. Don't feel bad. Mines going in as soon as I can find a UPS location to drop it off.

[@freedomle4022]

I was a fan of marlin, but now I’m a Henry guy for life. Give them a try.

[@johnt4060]

Freedom Le did you know Henry makes their actions, sights, barrel bands, etc out of pot metal?

[@freedomle4022]

Pot metal or not it shoots straight and as for loading the Henry vs Marlin the Henry loads a lot faster. I own both.

[@commonconservative7551]

you don't even know what pot metal is

[@johnt4060]

commonconservative do you?

[@dominator146]

Lol Henry is loving this shit. So are all of their paid shills on KZbin. Never shot a henry that didn’t jam. Their 22’s, and their 44 mags. They got rid of their main competition tho. That’s what big donations to the NRA will get ya. They even bribed their way into SASS. Ask some cowboy action guys how they feel about Henry.

[@tedclutter7326]

June 2018 - Bought a new Marlin 1894 CB in .45 Colt. Seemed fine in the store. Then jammed up so hard that you could not even remove the lever. Never fired a round through it. Then also noticed very poor fit of forearm that could not be tightened, and pretty bad color/grain match between the forearm and the stock. Sent it to the factory. They contacted me first of August, telling me that it could not be repaired and are shipping a new gun to my FFL. August 11 - Keeping my fingers crossed!

[@maddantt7757]

Sorry to hear about your experience with your 1894. I picked up an 1894 from my LGS in 2017 and it's been a gem. I thought they got past these QC issues in late 2015 when they retooled for the 1894.

[@happytrails5400]

Unfortunately, both of these issues are common now that Remington owns Marlin. I have both Remington and a Marlin. I love them, I'm not a hater of either one. As we all wish, Remington would get it all put in one sock. Their reputation has taken a large hit. Last year I was very hesitant about purchasing a new Remington, model Seven .308 CDL. The only issue I have with it is Remington has a screw sticking out at the top of the trigger which is a pain not only in my finger but also...... When I'm doing my job, I can get under an inch at 100 yds with both factory loads and reloads. All said and done, Remington get your head out in the fresh air. Henry, Browning and more do it much better. Rossi comes to mind when looking at Marlin. Nice video Sharps 1874.

[@vanparker2161]

I sent my 1895SBL back twice for a canted front sight before it was flagged for replacement. 6 MONTHS later I got a replacement rifle that just might have the same problem, not as severe as the first one but I think the front sight is slightly leaning to the right. Could just be me but I have learned a valuable lesson. I will not buy another new Marlin before inspecting it in person first.

[@dannyfivefifty]

A Marlin 336 G carbine was my first deer hunting rifle.It was a less expensive version of the Marlin 336,in a youth model.The quality was adequate,and I took a lot of deer with this rifle. That's why I am surprised at the decline in quality of the Marlin rifles now.These are Americas first rifles every one I know started out with a Marlin 30-30 cal or a marlin 35 Cal> .What happened to American Craftsmanship???

[@richardburnett-_]

Corporatism! C'mon, maan . . . where DON'T they get away with pure garbage?

[@jellybryce7742]

looks like buying remlins* are still a roll of the dice.

[@theindooroutdoorsman]

No clue why Remington didn't just buy Marlin and leave the quality as it was pre purchase.

[@DieKampfgurke94]

@@theindooroutdoorsman because $$$$$$

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@theindooroutdoorsman The craftsman were let go, fired, or quit (whichever it was). The machines were old. The blueprints were old. The know-how left when the new entity took over. How are you not going to have a disruption in product quality when a new workforce takes over, new CNC machines have to be programmed, and blueprints have to be updated by engineers/draftsman who aren't familiar with a product?

[@kevinrollman3101]

This guy was looking for a cheap rifle and he got one period!!

[@cmj20002]

That is an easy fix, Your loading gate is hitting the action so you need to tighten up the screw for the gate. I had the same issue with an older one. The front sight however is a different issue. They need to fix that for sure.

[@blt308]

Just got the "new" 1894 CSBL works like a charm and having a blast shooting it.

[@MercyMinister]

I have seven Marlins, all original JMs. I have NEVER had an issue as you are having. I will still buy a Marlin, but it will have to 1) not have that damn cross-bolt safety; and, 2) it will have to be an original Marlin.

[@shooterfan1974]

My 2015 336w .30-30 had an over clocked barrel, so the sight was off to the left ADS. I put a Williams FireSight front and rear peep and cheated the windage to compensate. I hunted (unsuccessfully) with it one season and traded it for a 1994 built 30AS, which has the forend cap, cheap sights from the Model 60 .22lr, and birch or beech stocks instead of walnut. It, and my much loved 1973 336 .35remington, are getting Skinner's before deer season.

[@robertmurdock9750]

I bought a 1895 back around 1980. It was stamped 45-70 government but when I got it home and cleaned I loaded the magazine and went to chamber a round it wouldn't go, the cartridge would go into the chamber about bullet deep. I believe it was either a 444 chamber or 30-30. I took it back to the store and they verified the problem and traded it out right there for one that worked.

[@xsbuilder1]

I wouldn't say the "old" Marlin 94's were that trouble free either. I bought a brand new 94C in .357 in 1984 from a local gun shop. Like you, I thought the lever action worked a little strangely. On mine, the lever seemed a bit loose so I tried to tighten the pivot screw. I found the screw was cross threaded and the internal threads torn up so it could not be tightened. Took it back and the gunsmith "fixed" it so the lever was snug and worked smoothly. The only problem was that guy said "Don't ever take it apart again, that bolt is junk!" . Well, I never did take it apart and it has worked OK all these years, but someday somebody will want to take it off for sure. I hope it's not me.

[@donaldmcleod7494]

I have 1894 and 1895 cowboy Marlins and they are both Remlins and are good rifles. However I went through several unboxings at my LGS before I found an acceptable 1894. I got lucky on the first 1895 it was fine. I’m pleased with these guns but I wouldn’t buy one without a hands on inspection first because decent craftsmanship certainly isn’t guaranteed.

[@davidholt4216]

I'm not a Marlin basher either. Just picked up an 1894 CSBL today. I looked it over fairly closely before I bought it, and generally it's pretty nice. That said, I got home with it and started cycling it and nearly sliced my finger on the back of the bolt (bolt carrier). One side is worse than the other, but both sides are sharp and uneven. I don't think I even want to deal with Marlin, with all the bad things I'm hearing. Arg.

[@rickcole2301]

Thanks for the info I have a 3:36 and I love it I bought it 1989 I had one of the best rifles I've got

[@tjmooremusic]

Thanks for the video. I remain convinced not to everf buy a Marlin.. I love my z Henry Big Boy in with the Brass receiver and the golden express peep sight from Skinner. Looks like it was made for the rifle and I did not have to change the front sight so I keep the original with the Brass bead. That too adds to the look. If I was to get a levergun with a side loading gate, on the lower price end I would get a Rossi. On the high end I would bite the bullet and though now manufactured in Ippon, I would get a Winchester. Safe shootin to ya and remember to keep your powder dry. Peace.

[@milesaboveu]

Just got a brand new 1894 csbl in .357 and its one of the nicest lever actions I've ever had.

[@samhill9267]

Sorry for your pain. But this is getting more and more common with all our firearms! Thanks for posting the info. During Marlin's bad period a new one I inspected had what looked like all the metal was parkerized and the wood had no fitting (height didn't match the metal and there were gaps in the wood to metal. Everyone got a good laugh when I loudly asked if it was a Chinese Norinco! Even if you inspect them in shop before you buy, you can't know if they will fire or cycle............... I don't think they function test them. I think they are putting one proof round thru them and that is all! How can anyone put that defective front sight screw loosely on your rifle and send it down the line????? At this point I'd take photos and mail it in asking for a new screw (pun not intended). It must be too long or the hole thru the sight has no shoulder for it to bear on. Refer them to your youtube video :-)

[@gortbot7748]

Remington date code PK is June 2016. The date codes can be looked up online. 17 was the day in June that rifle was final inspected and boxed up.

[@comlbbeau]

Your dissatisfaction is well-justified, and there is no excuse for turning out such poor quality control work. I'm a bit surprised, though, in that I purchased the identical rifle in .44 Magnum brand new in September of 2016, and the fit, finish, and overall quality of my rifle is excellent. I haven't broken the code on date of manufacture, so I can't say exactly when my rifle was produced. The only issue I have is that in sighting in at 50 yards using the semi-buckhorn sights, even with the rear sight at the highest notch on the ladder I have to have some of the front sight post visible in the "V: notch or it will impact low. I'd like to see an update on how your issue is resolved. Edited to add: I see you posted an update, but still having some binding issues with side pressure on the lever. Perhaps they'll be an update to the update!

[@joebauers3881]

I bought an 1894 a few years ago according to the barrel code (AI) I believe it was made in March 2014. The front sight is rotated a few degrees to the left off center. The rear sight base had to be moved way to much to get point of aim. Everything else seemed OK but if you short stroke it will jam and have to remove the lever to clear. I installed a Skinner winged sight with the right height to match the front sight . After adjusting the sight a bit to the left it is zeroed at 50 yds and shooting great. 21 gr h110 nosler 240 grain and can hit cans out to 50 yds all day. But am still disappointed about the front sight being off center

[@blazkowicz9455]

I just ordered one of the marlin 1895 ABL black knight editions here in Canada. Should have to Friday hopefully all is good.

[@grahamking2239]

I brought a ram Marlin S/H , I striped it down and highly polished the whole action,using very fine paper , oil stone &I a buffing wheel , the action is now like silk ! I notice the barrel was leading up so I fired a 100 jacked rounds through it , although there far less leading after shooting with lead I put 10 jacketed rounds through it . Am I happy with the rifle ? Yes

[@kimbelesky1971]

I have an 1894 marlin in 44 magnum i bought new. Somewhere around 1980. The lever hanging up has been a problem from day one. It is in the design. I see the problem was never solved. Remove the screw on the front sight and put a few wraps of sewing thread or fishing line around the threads and it will tighten up. But someone has had that front sight off that rifle. You can tell from how the slot is tore out on the corner from loosening the screw up. Maybe it has had the wrong screw put back in the front sight. That is why it is loose.

[@nakoawarrior3186]

I bought several shitty Winchesters,scope mounts striped out, barrels bent, chunks of rifling missing in the barrel. Bolt would not close on the ammo and both Winchester rifle company and Winchester ammo said Ahhh just shoot it it's new I had to beat the bolt shut with a rubber hammer every time I fired it it blew me off the bench. The $55.00 a box ammo was faulty at the mouth of the cartridge there was drops of nickel plating. I figured it out on bullet 21,.... when the bullet went in like it was made for it. At first I took calipers and checked every thing it looked perfect,... even the bullets were the right diameter. the mouth looked round but inside it was D shaped. They do not inspect the gun's they sell or the ammo. I totally believe you.

[@danoneill2846]

I have found to ALWAYS check ALL screws before you go shoot , I have a 20" SS 44 & a Cowboy 44 , also that 44 I think still has a slow twist & will likely be picky about ammo . They like full power & don't like slow specials . Fast light weight specials , or SOME fast specials will do OK . Feed it what it likes & they shoot fine for hunting 2" +/- at 100 yards .

[@blatrug]

I have a new 1894 SBL and it is a fine gun. It's a blast to shoot. LOL. I love it.

[@hoangdang7025]

Same just picked up a '94 sbl. New favorite to shoot for sure! One hell of a plinker haha but the recoil is not near as bad as I thought.

[@TN-pw2nl]

You can justify buying a Marlin if you want to learn how to fix rifles. I am learning a lot after buying an 1894cs, .357 (manufactured in 2018). I actually traded in a Henry Bigboy for it, because I don't like the loading method of the Henry. But the Henry was great quality, which I wish I could say about the Marlin. The main issue with the Marlin is the lever sometimes has to be forced repeatedly to open the action. Also, I have really had to push way too hard to load the magazine. I guess the Marlin will break in, or need some modifications. To be fair to Marlin, I also have an 1894 in .44 mag, made in 2016, that works fine.

[@henrywes2628]

I have a Rossi mod 92 in 357 runs like a champ. Had some rough edges to start, but put some (400-500) rounds through it and did some cleaning and it smoothed right up. Was thinking of upgrading to the Marlin... Not sure if that would be a upgrade mine puts up a pretty solid group at 50 and 75 yards. Anyone else have both the Rossi and new Marlin for comparison?

[@henrywes2628]

@@richardburnett-_ you can put on a tang mounted rear sight

[@crimsondragonfly5127]

I own the .357 model, my second one and have never had an issue with either other than having to sight them in, which I would expect to do anyway. Looks like you just got a bad one, and I agree, there is no excuse for this.

[@Patriot-rising]

Ouch! I have purchased a ton of Marlins over the years. But will admit I only purchased one durring the time they were owned by Remington. The one I purchased was a 1895 SBL and I am happy with it. I do not have any of the problems others seemed to have been plagued by. Most of my Marlins are early pre safety models. But I have handled and shot quite a few from the Remington era. I have to be honest I also have never seen that before. After seeing yours I am a bit shocked. Most of what I saw was poor finishing. Bad grinds, poor stocks and how off they are where they meet metal. I have even seen a broken tang screw right out if the box. If course the ones before Remington are great. And I am dang sure Ruger will also take great pride with the ones they are making. And other than the 1895SBL I own I wont purchase any rifles from the Remlin days at all. Hopefully you get this one taken care of. Or shall I say I hope you did before they shut the doors.

[@donmarshall4888]

Very sad to hear the continued issue’s with Marlin. Remington is not far behind them as far as quality goes. My Remington is great now....after replacing the cheap stock and a better barrel...so, I paid for nothing more than an action. Will stick to my old Mausers on bolt guns from now on.

[@u.p.woodtick3296]

Lucky my Marlin 336 is a very early one, with no take up on the trigger which breaks like the proverbial glass rod and before that button safety was put on and the quality went South. My friends would love to buy it

[@easttexan2933]

Just stick with the JM stamped older Marlins. I never buy new. Been 2 years now. How did you resolve these issues?

[@Sharps-im4lb]

EastTexan I sent it back to the factory twice. It is better but not perfect. I hope as I shoot it more and more the action will improve.

[@easttexan2933]

I would venture to say you could fix this problem yourself. The problem almost has to be in the fit of the loading gate. Take the gun apart and inspect the loading gate and see if there are any shiny marks on it that shouldn't be there. I would start with that.

[@davidinghram2494]

I bought a new 1894 in .44 Magnum that was one of the few pistol grip models. Where they stamped 44 in the barrel, one of the 4`s was so deep that you could see it inside the bore. It didn`t seem to affect the way it shot because it was very accurate, and I went on to shoot several deer with it. I wish it was still in my safe, but like so many others it was moved on for other things.

[@INeverMetAGunIDidntLike]

I purchased 2 Remlins. One is a 336 in .338 Express, accuracy was all over the place. Marlin replaced the barrel and tube follower, it was better but still not all that great. My second Remlin is a 336 in .35 Remington. It should of never left the factory, it wouldnt even chamber a round. Marlin replaced the rifle and sent me a new one with a cracked butt stock so they had so send me a replacement stock for a replacement rifle.

[@jimf1964]

Can't fault them for the sight not being repaired if it wasn't in the repair work order, but never should have left the factory like that! For either issue. That's pretty serious QC. At least they take them back to try to fix it with no hassle. I wonder if some of these issues are to do with the shortage of skilled trades workers?

[@Sharps-im4lb]

For full disclosure I want to state that I have a Marlin 336 in 30-30 which I love. It’s a shame that the 94’s are problematic.

[@easttexan2933]

Sad indeed. I own a 336XLR in 30-30 that was made around 2009. No issues. Action as smooth as a 336 from 1954 which I have in 35 Rem. Good luck with yours. Please do an update video when you get it back this time.

[@AR_119]

i got one of their 45-70s and the lever was all unfinished out of the box, it had a ton of burs, stuck all the time and i had similar issues with the front sight. I got rid of that pos and bought a 1952 Winchester 94. Never looked back

[@theguyinmaine]

I wouldn't want it after that. Bought a Ruger 101 357 and the cylinder rubbed on the frame and the trigger was unbelievably heavy. Sent it back, came back with a note, thats how they are. Sold it. Bought an AR556 new, gas block which is also the front sight was loose, the forward assist was smashed and stuck, sent it back and now selling it un fired. No more new guns.

[@Bobshouse]

Did you send it back at your expense, or did they send you a shipping label?

[@Sharps-im4lb]

Bobshouse Marlin paid for the shipping. That part went very well. UPS picked the rifle up at my house.

[@Bobshouse]

Least they are giving decent customer service but obviously need to work on the gunsmithing section. Your video has me a little worried, I ordered a 1894 45LC from Buds, hoping I get a good one.

[@johninphx9360]

If I have a problem with a new gun I usually go to a gunsmith and avoid the manufacturer. They obviously have lower standards then I do and I would expect them to send me back a repair that did not meet my standards as well. I am in the market for my first marlin and have already accepted that I will have to pay twice as much when its all over but it will be for upgrades not repairs. If you have to fix something...why not upgrade while your there! Cracked stock? buy a beautiful custom stock. Bad part. get the action job and upgraded parts. The Manufacturer is in the business of "Good Enough" not Good Work!

[@kentuckyjustice1408]

It's a (Freedom Group) Marlin, what more is there to say. I have a couple of (circa 1980) Marlins that I wouldn't trade for nothing; great rifles. But today, if I wanted to buy a Marlin, I'd check available sources (gun shows, on line, etc.) for an older, gently used Marlin.

[@kenthillery1385]

You are lucky in one respect.....yours groups much better than my JM .44 24 inch octagon Cowboy Special. What load did you use? I am halfway done with tuning mine. I think your group location may be from the stock not contacting the frame squarely and being inconsistent due to your hold. Consider glass bedding the hole and the front of the butt stock. I bought mine second hand for five hundred ten years ago and it had been slicked up by Oglesby and Oglesby in Springfield Illinois. They can take care of all of the gun's problems and I would recommend them.