Marlin Papoose: Best Bugout Rifle in the World?

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nutnfancy

nutnfancy

Күн бұрын

Perhaps the greatest the survival and bugout rifle every made, it is time to revisit the Marlin Papoose Model 70PSS. In stainless steel and synthetic we have about 20 years of using this gun in our family. There are good reasons for that. The Papoose is one of the lightest .22 rifles made, it is very reliable, packs compactly, comes in a floating case, takes a scope readily, has good iron sights, has last shot hold open, a decent trigger, is exceptionally accurate, and represents great value. Building upon the foundation of what makes a realistic survival or bugout rifle, I cover all the aspects to this great .22. Even for just plain plinking and shooting fun, it is a great choice. The heavier Ruger 10/22 Takedown and the clunky Henry Arms AR-7 are compared. With the addition of the excellent ProMag 25 rd Marlin .22 magazines, the Papoose could be considered the best, packable survival rifle in the world.
Nutnfancy Likability Scale: 10 out of 10

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@xxxxtripxxxxOSG
@xxxxtripxxxxOSG 8 жыл бұрын
After seeing your videos on this and reading about them I decided to try to find and get one instead of the Ruger takedown. Found them online for $280 but really wanted to put my hands on one first. Today I called a local gun shop and the guy said "oh they haven't made those in a long time" then said to hold on while he talked to another clerk. Came back on the phone and said there actually still had one leftover on the shelf. I asked how much and he said $119. I couldn't get up there quick enough.
@MrMurch28
@MrMurch28 9 жыл бұрын
Your .22 rifle reviews are your greatest contribution to the gun community. You bring new shooters into the market and beg older shooters to fall back in Iove with their first caliber. Thanks again Nutn.
@TheLateBoyScout
@TheLateBoyScout 9 жыл бұрын
Great review. I've heard so much good about this rifle in the past several years. I may very well have to pick one up.
@EOlmos009
@EOlmos009 9 жыл бұрын
+The Late Boy Scout If so, I'm looking foward for a review
@fulblaze4
@fulblaze4 9 жыл бұрын
+The Late Boy Scout after this video im going to get this also
@SpectrumSurvivalist
@SpectrumSurvivalist 9 жыл бұрын
There is a difference between a survival rifle, and a fighting rifle, you can't combine them down into 1 rifle and still be living in reality.
@anotherboredgenius283
@anotherboredgenius283 9 жыл бұрын
As always, great and fun review! Just thought I'd share my own go-to kit: I have a Henry AR-7 (you really should give the Henry-made rifle a chance BTW) with 3 loaded, 8-rd. mags and and an extra 100rds. PLUS - my PRIMARY armament - a Primal Gear 50lb-draw, folding, take down longbow with (believe it or not) take down arrows. Including other accessories - hunting points, field points, extra fire kit, cleaning cloths, FA, etc... It all fits in an old take down fly rod bag about the size of your 10/22 take down bag... That's two systems in one kit! A bow is VERY quiet, lightweight and affords the extra advantage of reusable/easily made ammo in the field. Then, I still have the AR-7 as a more critical backup (plus holstered sidearm, of course)... Also wanted to mention - in the three years I've owned the Henry, not one failure to load/eject. BUT - subsonic rounds and shorts will not cycle the action. Thanks for your ongoing efforts in TNP! Would love to meet you at SHOT if you're going next year!
@ONLY_FXRS
@ONLY_FXRS 9 жыл бұрын
The marlin is great but my vote is still for the ruger 10/22 takedown. Just my personal preference. No tools needed. Super reliable. decent accuracy. Not over priced. The Multicam stock, threaded barrel model is the one I own and the one I recommend.
@stevemiller7433
@stevemiller7433 8 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of calls out for the 10-22 takedown. I have one and a Papoose. The Marlin is MUCH lighter, occupies less space. I kept mine light, simple and accurate by fitting Tec Sights on it. It never fails... (nor has the 10-22 to be fair)
@egsmachine
@egsmachine 9 жыл бұрын
I had a model 60 i converted to a model 70. it shot amazing.
@rainmechanic
@rainmechanic 9 жыл бұрын
My bugout survival gun is a Ruger SP101 .22LR with a 4 inch barrel manufactured in 1999... Its accurate to 25 yards.. it fires shorts and shotshells... it has never JAMMED. It's stainless steel.. Its built like a tank.. It weighs less than the Papoose and its a smaller package.. Im not as sweet on the .22 anymore... I can make my own cast bullet reloads for 357 magnum for 6 cents a round... IMO the new Ruger SP101 357 with adjustable sights and the 4in barrel is an almost ideal survival bug out firearm.. So is an old K frame Smith and Wesson model 19/66 with a 4in barrel... 100 rds of 38 doesnt weigh that much and you can reuse the cases and reprime and reload with an old Lee Load All percussion reloader.. A model 60 J frame with adjustable sights and a 3 to 4 inch barrel is also an ideal bug out survival gun... Remember, you may have to move through populated area's, walk through a town, go into a store, ect.... Handguns have the advantage of easier concealability, low weight, easily portable, and quicker to get into action from concealment... they are great for signaling and home made 357 shotshells are far more effective then .22 shotshells... You can more easily dispatch birds, snakes, and quick small rodents with the 357 shotshell... A box stock gen 3 Glock 19 is a very close second to the .38/357 Wheelgun.
@TTMR1986
@TTMR1986 9 жыл бұрын
Great POU discussion as always. I am currently using a SU-16 for this type of use as a survival rifle when flying over empty terrain. As I don't plan on hiking it very far the extra ammunition weight is quite worth it for me to have center fire fire power. However you mentioned the CMR30 and I have to admit, it would also be a great option.
@CanadianPrepper
@CanadianPrepper 9 жыл бұрын
I've been in the market for a .22, if this has the Nutnfancy stamp of approval then I may have to add to my repertoire! if I can sneak it past the old lady that is ;) 350$ in Canada
@ampjdtc993
@ampjdtc993 9 жыл бұрын
Canadian Prepper Is this a firearm you are allowed to own in Canada? If so, what does it take for you to purchase one? Is ammunition available up there for it?
@wt4629
@wt4629 9 жыл бұрын
+ampjdtc I'm not Canadian but I assume that a .22 rifle is not high up on the list of illegal firearms to own. It isn't as scary as a Kalashnikov or AR.
@EricKPoorManPrepper
@EricKPoorManPrepper 9 жыл бұрын
I had one of these back in the 90's but sold it ... You wont regret it, unless you sell it like I did,..LOL Great Rifle...shoots as good as Nuttn' says it does too,...
@ScaredStupid
@ScaredStupid 9 жыл бұрын
ampjdtc While it's not cheap, we do have .22 ammo readily available at this time (at least in western Canada). Firearm laws in Canada are a subtle mix of pointless and dumb, so I won't elaborate on the details, other than to say if I want to buy a .22 rifle and/or ammunition I just flash my licence to the counter guy, pay for the stuff I want, then go shoot.
@ericferguson9989
@ericferguson9989 9 жыл бұрын
+The West Will Rise Again! You'd be surprised what Canadian Gun laws let us get away with (Shhh...Don't tell the NDP or Liberals; it's an election year.) Some scary guns are outright banned and some are unrestricted, like 14.5mm anti tank rifles(?) for the really big moose! Steyr AUGs are banned, but Tavors are ok and AR 15s are allowed only on approved ranges. Rim fire rifles are unrestricted and have unlimited magazine capacity, but not rim fire pistols, so the PMR 30 is capped at 10 rounds. Before the mass shooting in Montreal in the 90s, I remember going into the local Army Surplus store and seeing AKs, RPKs and other surplus goodies in all their glory up on the wall for all to see. But yeah, .22s are fine!
@Iridium242
@Iridium242 9 жыл бұрын
One of the first firearms I owned when i lived in update NY. Picked it up at a pawn shop, blued with wood. Nice gun, would love to get another some day but they are not as easy to find anymore. Like this gun a lot.
@deanwinchester7179
@deanwinchester7179 9 жыл бұрын
Not as good of a choice but the Marlin 75C is also nice. Very accurate, light, short, and 14 round tubular mag.
@steelwings72
@steelwings72 9 жыл бұрын
I own this rifle wearing a nikon fixed 4x. I put a cheap nylon shotgun shell carrier on the butt, each sleeve holds a 10rd mag. bulks it up a tad but the mags are always with the rifle. I also keep some waterproof matches and a firesteel in the hollow stock. I took the screws out of the butt pad and put a 550 cord loop through the screw holes. The butt pad fits very tight, the screws aren't necessary. This rifle rocks, and it is an absolute blast to shoot.
@snakedragon1007
@snakedragon1007 9 жыл бұрын
Yes finally a feature length on the papoose!!! Been waiting for it. I thought I was all good with my takedown 10/22. This is making me think twice. Can't beat bx-25 mags though
@Doomjunkie
@Doomjunkie 9 жыл бұрын
I been asking since 2008 for a sewing vid. This is the perfect opportunity for an awesome sewing vid on slings!
@555Gear
@555Gear 9 жыл бұрын
"Duracoat a little bit more" - Classic Nutn Advice
@Channel-bb4nb
@Channel-bb4nb 9 жыл бұрын
I like the concept, but I have been tending to lean towards pistols for my kits due to legality in my area. I'd really love to see a video that compares a takedown .22 to a .22 pistol. There are several obvious differences a rifle would be easier to shoot, mount optics, and add 20+ rd mags, but a .22 pistol like the ruger charger or a target .22 pistol would beat the take down in weight, fewer parts to lose, storage... I don't know, I keep going back and forth on what's better for a survival kit. As to the "firepower" argument who would be without their EDC pistol in WROL seems like a lot of guys are failing to factor that in? A .22 would be a great addition.
@alphanumeric1529
@alphanumeric1529 9 жыл бұрын
A few minutes before this posted, I was like, post a vid, nutn, went over to my email... Nutn's got my back. This is a cliche and stupid, but the best survival firearm is the one you have. If you can carry an ar, and it is relatively light, and the ammo is relatively light, then carry the ar. It does get heavy over distance or up grades. Same with a 12 or 20 gauge. Yes, you can hunt anything with the right shell, and you can demolish two legged beasts with it, but those shells are heavy. Sixteen shells, and you're over a pound for ammo. That is only sixteen shots... With a hundred rounds of .22 you've probably got about 25 squirrels/rabbit/other fuzzy critters to eat. That is a lot of meals. But back to my point, just make sure you have something out there, and that you still have the right to have that something out there.
@nutnfancy
@nutnfancy 9 жыл бұрын
Probably my favorite super light, high value, and compact survival rifle of all time: time for a real tabletop on the excellent Marlin Papoose Model 70PSS.
@timothyhall2117
@timothyhall2117 9 жыл бұрын
I saw some people on FB bashing on you; I felt compelled to tell you that you fucking rock! Thank you for what you do.
@tyob1
@tyob1 9 жыл бұрын
I was just talking about this rifle yesterday with my dad. I picked one up from a friend 10 years ago for $60 in excellent condition! Great camping/backpacking/survival rifle in my opinion.
@backyardboom7472
@backyardboom7472 9 жыл бұрын
Winchester model 1894, 30.30 is my survival go to.
@backyardboom7472
@backyardboom7472 9 жыл бұрын
nothin can beat that
@Oldcoinsandstuff1
@Oldcoinsandstuff1 9 жыл бұрын
Even though it's a single shot I love the 22 cricket. So small, so light. Bolt action
@GunfighterR6
@GunfighterR6 9 жыл бұрын
Great video, I always enjoy seeing other's bug out stuff. Keeps the mind fresh and lends to new ideas.
@embee5056
@embee5056 9 жыл бұрын
Nice video. But I disagree on one point: about having a dedicated bugout gun that you never use for anything else. For those of us who aren't comparatively rich, $300 is rather a lot to spend for something that's going to sit around waiting for a what-if scenario. If you want a second Papoose to actually Use, that's $600. To me, that's a LOT. Also Marlin advises us not to store the Papoose in its case, because the case may trap moisture and corrode the gun. Not an issue for Nutnfancy who is in the desert all the time, but an issue for someone in a more humid climate. I think with a little bit of discipline, i.e. put the gun where it belongs when you're not using it, there's no need for a dedicated bugout gun. If you know exactly where it is, you can just grab it and go when you grab your bugout bag.
@jinner5545
@jinner5545 8 жыл бұрын
Hello nutnfancy wanted to throw a little info your way if you have not already heard of them yet. The company is called Ranger Point Precision. They make a forearm for the Marlin Papoose. They claim that by using their forearm they replace the need for the wrench to tighten the nut on the gun.
@MrAjusog
@MrAjusog 9 жыл бұрын
I would say the keltec 5.56 folder. Reliable, magazines fit into the stock, tough, accurate, less less than 6 lbs....
@shayglass4753
@shayglass4753 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Nutn, I recently acquired an AK in 5.45x39 with a folding Warsaw-length stock. It's an incredible bug-out, camp, hike, whatever gun. With some super-cheap 7N6 ammo it will handle damn near anything alive and fit anywhere. Do a review!
@EveryDayCarry14
@EveryDayCarry14 9 жыл бұрын
My Bentwood Gunsmithing & Battle Arms Development is my go to survival rifle. Weighs less than 4lbs. 4lbs 7.5oz with aimpoint, fortis mount, and lancer mag. Not cheap, but the lightest weight AR-15 on the market with all metal construction(Carbon Fiber hand guard, and Ergo grip is the only non-metal on the rifle).
@JamesDalpe
@JamesDalpe 9 жыл бұрын
Love it. Personally i like the 10 22 just cause of after market stuff but i understand that goes against cost
@tioriccopuravidatrader121
@tioriccopuravidatrader121 9 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great videos. Don't normally post any comments on videos, but have given this video much thought and thought i would put my 2 cent, non-pro comment here. I grew up with my AR-7 charter arms .22LR.....HATED it then and still do. What I think would be ideal for me for bugout/survival is the AR57 LEM. For many of the reasons you mentioned for Marlin or other ,22LR ammo including light weight/small ammo. The AR57 with the benefit of 5.7 x 28 larger caliber, longer range, more velocity, could be used for tactical also, 50 round mag. and goes well with my FNH FiveseveN side arm. Food for thought.
@1000Commando
@1000Commando 9 жыл бұрын
good choice in my bug out bag has a Ruger Mark III Standard 6'' Barrel
@inversionlayer
@inversionlayer 9 жыл бұрын
After dealing with heavy BS at work (stupid boss); is exactly what I need! Unwind with Nutn' video and a cold beverage. Life is good after all.
@chrisf9217
@chrisf9217 9 жыл бұрын
I hope I'm not the only one that snickered every time he said Papoose. In the days of Blackhawk, red hawk, wingmaster, bearcat, python, anaconda... we have a papoose lol
@dannyo1966
@dannyo1966 9 жыл бұрын
I've never owned a Papoose, but I've had a Model 60 for years, and LOVE it. Extremely accurate rifle, I'd have no compunctions about putting some target/competition 22 rounds into it and expect it would hold it's own in a competition. The micro grooving in the barrels make them accurate and Nutn did touch on that in the video. The Ruger takedown is a good rifle from everything I've seen and it gives you a second choice...go with your personal favorite. About the only thing I'd change would to put a hand guard on the Papoose, which would add additional weight, just to give me something to hang on too. Otherwise it would be just what Nutn proposed it to be, an awesome bug-out/survival gun. Great video...thumbs up.
@trixp5
@trixp5 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great vid Nutn! Keep up the great work you do for us all. Side note, I took my wife and 2 boys camping this past weekend up in Mammoth Lakes, CA. And while up there, I couldn't help but hear your voice in my head regarding many things; i.e. being prepared for the hikes we did(SAWC) and just making memories with your family which TNP definitely hits on hard. Thanks for the inspiration you give us all to get out and live life! VIVA LA TNP!!!
@SoulSniper2220
@SoulSniper2220 9 жыл бұрын
nutnfancey question would you pick this over a ruger 10/22 takedown rifle? or vice versa
@Player_Review
@Player_Review 9 жыл бұрын
Here I was thinking the AR-7.. Marlin Papoose is looking pretty great though. Me, I'll sling my '67 Model 70 over my shoulder with a few boxes of .308 and walk off to my doom to never be seen again. $300 is cheap... spent $600-700 on knives in the past 6 weeks thanks to you. Damn you and your awesome reviews! And, no, I'm not done spending. I'll blow another $800 on knives before the year is over. Sniping a turtle with a .22LR though, probably not... I'll be a gentleman and slit its throat.
@Lag_TV
@Lag_TV 9 жыл бұрын
Have been thinking about getting this rifle for a while, will have to get one when I have the funds and start kayak camping.
@crashandburnbirner
@crashandburnbirner 9 жыл бұрын
I like the principle of the 22 but I would prefer to go with a 9mm chambered light carbine
@macro820
@macro820 9 жыл бұрын
I like this "best" style video better than the plain review. Thanks for the videos Nutn, always ready for my gear check!
@TDMstevo
@TDMstevo 8 жыл бұрын
was my first .22 and gotta say they are super awesome bush guns
@libarata
@libarata 9 жыл бұрын
If I had seen one of these when I was out buying my 10/22, I may have went with it. Granted, I still have my 10/22, and I am going to learn to nab small game with it, it will not be in a bug out kit, but a bug in kit.
@MrPaxy69
@MrPaxy69 9 жыл бұрын
I really liked your video on bugging in. That is my plan until I purchase a bug out location. Thank you for all your work on the project. I was a hard core bug outer for a long time. I appreciate your ability to look at situations from numerous angles. the owl is on the shed.
@ericschultz7374
@ericschultz7374 8 жыл бұрын
In Maine, people actually use .22lrs to poach moose. It's seams rediculous, but its happened.
@AFDoc00
@AFDoc00 8 жыл бұрын
.22 LR isn't very useful beyond 100m. At that range or less, would it make more sense to use a red dot sight (smaller, lighter)?
@domenik8339
@domenik8339 8 жыл бұрын
You could say that would be a good option and be right, but I don't think he wants to worry about batteries or the durability of the sight.
@silentassassin762
@silentassassin762 9 жыл бұрын
Another option for the 10/22 would be the APG arms take down conversion kit. With that kit it resembles the papoose and would take the weight down considerably compared to the factory take down. The barrel in the kit comes threaded so there wouldn't be an extra cost to take it to a gun smith.
@mkeuphoria
@mkeuphoria 9 жыл бұрын
I like a .22/.410 combo gun that can come apart. Springfield made the M6 Scout for a while. That's a bit more expensive but I like the extra utility of having the .410.
@DreadDoctor
@DreadDoctor 9 жыл бұрын
I'm just happy someone agree's with me. I've always answered the question from friends of "if you could only take one, what would it be?" with, My .22 rifle. And everyone laughs at me. lol who wouldn't want 1000 rnds in a situation like that?
@toofast4radar
@toofast4radar 9 жыл бұрын
Just picked mine up tonight. Sadly it will have to go back to Marlin before I can even use it. I oiled the barrel nut, locked the bolt back, and it hand tightened about half way. I used the tool and gave it another turn thinking this was normal, but it got really tight and I stopped. I had to put some muscle to remove it and now I can't even get one rotation by hand. Looks like it started to strip the receiver half way down the threads. I went from being super excited to super disappointed, but with some of the QC Marlin has been putting out over the last year with their 1895's I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. Tomorrow I'm calling to get a call tag - talk about a real bummer I was hoping to break it in this weekend :(
@superchevys10
@superchevys10 9 жыл бұрын
I just like how ar7 breaks down into the butstock. And it's designed to float. Other than that I completely agree with your video.
@Jeffy2n
@Jeffy2n 9 жыл бұрын
I have a Ruger 10/22 for this use, but I have a Marlin model 60. I feel there both equal. I tried the Papoose, I like having a forearm to steady the rifle, but I can see your point, and as always you make a very good point about weight.
@samzimmerman2621
@samzimmerman2621 9 жыл бұрын
Just shot my Papoose for the first time today! Loved It!
@kbs5150
@kbs5150 9 жыл бұрын
Nutn your the man. Dont spend so much air time on addressing the knuckleheads boss. It seems your doing it more now than when I first started watching you. Dont let them get to you. Most of your following get it. Those that are haters never will. It might be just me but every time you bring up the internet commando its like ya we know that.....forget those guys. Keep it positive bro......
@kurt9894
@kurt9894 9 жыл бұрын
That AR build is sick
@toolmanky8351
@toolmanky8351 9 жыл бұрын
Good video in demonstrating that the best "survival" gun is not always an ar/ak or other military style semi auto rifle. I get what you say about size//weight considerations of the weapon and ammo but I believe the best all around gun for a survival situation is a pump action//semi auto shotgun or a over/under or double barrel. It can fill all roles in taking small to large game to defense with proper ammunition. Only fly in the ointment is the weight of the ammo. Maybe a 20 gauge would be easier to lug than a 12 gauge. Anyways keep up the good work love the videos!
@gregspronken2980
@gregspronken2980 9 жыл бұрын
for the past 8 years... before BOB became popular I have carried a 94' Papoose with approx 200 rounds and a old 18.25 inch break action 12 gauge with approx 20 assorted shells with me everywhere it the woods. There is nothing else I would trust. Great review... River is heavy and AR7 are either old cr@p or the new ones have plastic barrel which can bend ( I have seen it). When a "pro" can talk for 30 mins about why it is the right rifle you should listen. I would never rely upon a handgun as they are very hard to be accurate with unless you practice a lot. I can give my Papoose \ shotgun to almost anyone and they can hit a target from 25 yards away. Let's also be serious... in a WROL situation if someone wants your supplies they will shoot you with a 308 from 300 yards and you will never see them.
@BobSmith-zj6lk
@BobSmith-zj6lk 9 жыл бұрын
I think the Rossi Matched Pairs are an ideal survival rifle. They're cheap, accurate, simple, light weight(under 4 lbs in the youth version) and available in multiple caliber combinations. You don't need semi-automatic capability in any kind of wilderness survival situation. You just need to be able to hit what you're aiming at. The Youth Pair(22lr & 410) is an ideal combination. As you've said, 22lr is cheap and light weight. But, it doesn't have much in the way of knock down power. Switch to the 410 barrel if needed and you can have a weapon capable of taking a bird with shot or a deer/hog with a slug. Ammo would be light as well.
@Tula1940_LB
@Tula1940_LB 8 жыл бұрын
Use whatever you want for a bug out gun but I highly recommend a .22lr
@rolvaagthorsen
@rolvaagthorsen 9 жыл бұрын
Talking true survival the M6 Springfield should be thought of. It is a 22 Hornet over .410. The hornet for knock down at longer ranges and shotgun for close range game. No scope needed if you are shooting past a 100yds with a .22 you always stand a chance of missing or game not a good hit. It is also very packable.
@ZASurvivalist
@ZASurvivalist 9 жыл бұрын
Owned a 795 and 7000, both were better than a box stock 10/22 minus the mag capacity when it came to out of the box accuracy. The Marlin Pap was one I couldn't find, but seemed like a great takedown rifle.
@kyhill72
@kyhill72 9 жыл бұрын
Do a review on the new version of the Ruger Charger. It comes in a fixed barrel and tacke down version. Any AR grip can fit on it. Its a great hiking gun and critter getter. Love your videos hope to see you do a review on it.
@LiquidFaiT
@LiquidFaiT 9 жыл бұрын
I appreciated the end of the video where you explored other possible good options and justified the overall selection of the Papoose. However, I wonder why you didn't mention a 9mm carbine? I would never suggest a 9mm over a 5.56 but if we're considering a .22LR, it seems we would often be better served with the 9mm cartridge. The following is to display a point (I know you know it, I'm just reiterating): The .22LR is a rimfire (inherently unreliable, low power (150-200 ft lbs) and low mass (20 -60 grains) projectile vs. a 9mm which is centerfire 400-500 ft lbs and 50-147 grains. Ballistics being rather abstract and uncertain, I would feel at least twice as confident with 9mm then .22LR if not more. Ammo weighs a little more but Herters Aluminum or Liberty Civil Defense is very very light. I can find weapons like the Kel-Tec Sub2000 that take glock mags (Or several other makes) that will make it possible for not only my ammunition, but my magazines to be cross compatible with my sidearm. And 9mm is available everywhere, and in a vast multitude of configurations. This gives it far more flexibility than .22. Another plus, since its a pistol caliber, you can sbr the weapon down to 5 inches and give up almost nothing in velocity, depending on the money you wish to invest in this survival rifle. Kel-Tec lists the Sub2000 as 4.25 lbs which seems reasonable, and I'm sure there are many other 9mm carbines worth considering, I simply lack the expertise. So, as I said, I know that you know all this. My question is why you don't consider that cartridge for this POU, survival rifle? Thank you for all that you and your family do, It means alot to so many.
@Forewarned76
@Forewarned76 9 жыл бұрын
Greatest Urban Survival rifle, Kel-Tec's new CMR-30, especially when paired with its pistol counterpart
@fredericksharkey8762
@fredericksharkey8762 8 жыл бұрын
Hi there Nutnfancy, thank you so much for all the time and effort you put into the TNP Project! Before I started getting firearms, I saw your channel and learned so much. As a result, I am now a NRA member and CCW holder who carries everyday. I started getting into 22LR rifles for marksmanship / target shooting. I have and love my Marlin Model 60 and two Marlin 795's (one with Tech Sights and one with scope). So, I am seriously considering trying to get a hold of a Marlin "Papoose". However, I am wondering what you think of the re-introduced Ruger 22 Charger with the threaded barrel already included for a "Bug Out Kit" (BOK) POU versus the Marlin Papoose? Again, thank you so much for all your work on the The Nutnfancy Project (TNP)!
@AKarnold1010
@AKarnold1010 9 жыл бұрын
Yessss. Finally a legit table top on this thing. Still can't find one
@thomascoughran1374
@thomascoughran1374 9 жыл бұрын
The Papoose makes a lot of sense. Remember the survival .22 from back in the 1950s or 1960s? I don't remember the name. It incorporated the name Nylon; Nylite? Something like that. The barrel/receiver group fit in the stock and the thing would float.
@thomascoughran1374
@thomascoughran1374 9 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about the Remington Nylon 66, but the ArmaLite AR-7 is the one that breaks down and floats. Been around since 1959...
@pk13910
@pk13910 9 жыл бұрын
Best survival gun (specifically for survival, i.e. procuring food while maintaining carry weight) is the Springfield M6 Scout. Runner up is the Henry AR-7.
@BladeAddict8
@BladeAddict8 9 жыл бұрын
It depends on if you plan on doing a lot of hiking. If so go for the Papoose or a Savage Mark II. If not I would go with a AR for sure.
@WillMoon
@WillMoon 9 жыл бұрын
Given the predilection of some less centered voices out there calling for a more violent form of WROL, if it and when it happens, I think I'd opt for a little more firepower going forward. Supposidly Bentwood Gunsmithing is finishing up an OIP for me, it's a fully metallic AR-15 that weighs 3.8 pounds, that's what I would take if I needed a bugout rifle. It's expensive, but I have spare ARs that I can shoot and keep that as a kit gun. It gives me a lot of hitting power if I need it, the ability to take deer (small game for me is off limits due to religious reasons) and its still as light as most .22LR guns. Only thing is they're still not done with it, I ordered it in Feb. with a proposed ship date in April. Until they finally get around to finishing it, I stick with a pistol in my kit, usually some form of Glock or M&P for capacity and weight.
@nutnfancy
@nutnfancy 9 жыл бұрын
***** 3.8 is insane, man. That's a lot of good work to get that thing down that low. I like how hte industry is finally coming around, I'm sure we're about 8 years away from the mainstream factories reaching low 4's with them. That thing is awesome!-TD
@Ebiczebulanious
@Ebiczebulanious 9 жыл бұрын
***** So it sounds like you are planing to Bug Out into the Ghetto.
@WillMoon
@WillMoon 9 жыл бұрын
Um, no, but I do like options and 5.56 Nato gives me more gun for only a half pound more...
@franktheweinerburke
@franktheweinerburke 9 жыл бұрын
what religion tells you to die rather than eat a squirrel or rabbit?
@WillMoon
@WillMoon 9 жыл бұрын
I won't have this discussion with you, it's more in depth than I care to type out and in the end I don't believe that discussing my private beliefs with you will end in a fruitful discussion; suffice it to say I have religious obligations to eat clean food and I'm not released from that obligation when under duress. Lets please leave it at that.
@dekstehnrasta741
@dekstehnrasta741 9 жыл бұрын
Right on Nutn, survival rifles are for food (mostly). In a long term WROL situation, no one is making ammunition so every round is precious. If you can't afford them while they are available (now) or carry them when they are not (then), they do you no good. 1000 rounds of .22LR = 8lbs. (and depending where you get them $100 or less).
@avalon449
@avalon449 9 жыл бұрын
Ruger 10/22 hands down !!!!!!
@Longshoremansf
@Longshoremansf 9 жыл бұрын
Mr nutn the first time I seen your vids I had my brand new marlin 60sn/ws my first gun I was 18 so wanting to know more abought the gun I turned to youtube I came across your vid of the papoose loved it now I own several guns thanks to your info and hard work thanks
@ampjdtc993
@ampjdtc993 9 жыл бұрын
Great video Nutn'. The Papoose may well be my next 'Nutnfancy recommended' purchase! Like a lot of Kel Tec's, the .22 magnum rifle looks interesting too. I was very interested in the Kel Tech Sub 2000 when you showed it. After a few years of it never being available anywhere, I have resolved to treat Kel Tec products as non-existant. I would not buy anything of theirs even if they managed to actually try to make them available. I have tired of their excuses for failing to meet anything even close to consumer demand for their products.
@socketman
@socketman 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review, I have been eyeing a 10/22 takedown for a while now for this POU, totally forgot about this option. I may be angling for the papoose now.
@sonyj87
@sonyj87 9 жыл бұрын
I just googled survival rifle 2 hours ago.... Thank u Nutnfancy
@BaronGlacius
@BaronGlacius 9 жыл бұрын
Great info. I really like the Kel-Tec CMR 30 concept. Thanks for the Video
@DAVIDWTCS
@DAVIDWTCS 9 жыл бұрын
HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT THE AR-7? I own one and I must say, it is very economical to shoot. When you spend all your time clearing FTF, FTE, FTX failures, you save ammo.
@EmberEagle
@EmberEagle 9 жыл бұрын
Envious of the weight of that .22. Think my takedown is about 8pnds. I like your philosophy on this BOK rifle. People say AR because they might be able to hump the weight when there at their best, but they should consider if its really a bug out situation what they can carry at their worst, (broken arm, dust inhalation, twisted ankle, etc.)
@drmaudio
@drmaudio 9 жыл бұрын
Interesting discussion. I havre always thought the big thing would more likely be food. I always have a handgun on me, so that would be primary defense, if I could have one other gun, it would be a .22, or a .22/.410 combo. Small game is the most prevalent and practical and a gun more suited to that is ideal.
@chrismorrison3950
@chrismorrison3950 9 жыл бұрын
If I had to go the .22 route I would choose the Sig Classic. It folds and breaks down to fit in a case and is more reliable. But the main reason it that I would never depend on anything that runs off Pro Mag, and they are the only company who makes higher capacity mags for the 795.
@erickawesome5191
@erickawesome5191 9 жыл бұрын
A tube fed would be the way to go. You would never have to worry about losing magazines
@947969
@947969 9 жыл бұрын
thanks for keeping it realistic its refreshing
@corensam
@corensam 9 жыл бұрын
Loved this rifle since I saw it in action with Jeremiah Johnson
@caseswartz1577
@caseswartz1577 9 жыл бұрын
Just my luck the day after I purchase a 795, a new review of the 70pss comes out.
@ramoeric
@ramoeric 9 жыл бұрын
Ruger 10/22 take down, or 10/45 pistol. I love Marlin..I have 2, but by today's manufacturing standards, Ruger has it.
@AR-do3gj
@AR-do3gj 9 жыл бұрын
Bring back the knife show Nutn!!!
@sarinhighwind
@sarinhighwind 9 жыл бұрын
Been waiting on this one from the last video when you talked about it at the knife camp trip in the snow.
@chasemason11
@chasemason11 9 жыл бұрын
Priest is an amazing lake! Great review Nutn
@eddiemountain407
@eddiemountain407 9 жыл бұрын
As always, an amazing video and spot on review, thank you nutn.
@bengalvin71
@bengalvin71 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Nutn, Any thoughts on some of the more light weight 22/410 combo guns? Is there anything to be said for their versatility and simplicity in comparison to any semi auto? I know they can be a bit of a compromise, but I notice Rossi had one with single interchangeable barrels. Now there would be a challenge for the project. To develop an even better survival gun than everything you mentioned today :0) I liked the shout out for the CMR 30 as an alternative.
@zsspecify9044
@zsspecify9044 8 жыл бұрын
when i show the marlin for the 1st time i started laughing
@one-WildCard
@one-WildCard 9 жыл бұрын
nah, Henry Survival Rifle. Much more compact and lighter.... check them out. I love mine and i bet you would as well.
@pk13910
@pk13910 9 жыл бұрын
+Paul “WildCard” Charron Great rifle. I love how the whole thing fits in the stock.
@bruceclark5627
@bruceclark5627 8 жыл бұрын
nah,i like my rifles to fire when i pull the trigger(every time),eat what i feed it,not have fragile and almost impossible to replace magazines and a barrel thicker than my thumb nail.when you buy a rifle and the owners manual tells you that the supplied barrel isn't intended for even "heavy plinking" and then ask in the realm $300 i say hell no.
@iliveoutside
@iliveoutside 9 жыл бұрын
Well I have been wanting one of these for a while now so I was pretty stoked to see them at Cabelas for $149. Sadly when I got her out of the box, the front sight was canted a few degrees left. A quick Google search indicates that is pretty common problem now with Remington produced Marlins. I am very disappointed, hoping they will make it right under warranty.
@MrOutdoorsman1234
@MrOutdoorsman1234 9 жыл бұрын
Just bought a used one pre bolt hold open but it's in mint condition for 180 going to pick up some of those mags now
@PhuVet
@PhuVet 9 жыл бұрын
not sure about the huge weight difference on 22mag vs 22LR, but the rest are pretty valid points. The Keltec may be the better choice in that role because I keep an older PVS7 in my kit with a cheaper Huntertown Arms Suppressor, knowing very well that sacrifices had to be made I currently have a takedown 10/22 marine setup in my kit and a Rossi takedown 22LR/410 in my car kit. The 410 gives me flexibility but my situation is unique in the fact that I live in gator country where fishing is probably going to be more likely for survival. I have some takedown poles in my kits as well and field stripped MRE's. We already have an all Combat Veteran group established for support in crisis with the fall back shelters in place. Most of us have 22lr or Mag as our BOB rifle, and all but 1 have side by sides for vehicles with the other having an airboat. The point is that different climates require different kits, here 1.5miles with a ruck are not only doable but most have done it already, in combat situations. A quality vetted group is necessary, no wackos in our group, just a group of vets and our families. We all know each other very well and have spent a lot of time together, some during Storms that require evacs.
@tacticalfedora8810
@tacticalfedora8810 9 жыл бұрын
Since we're talking about .22 for survival, I thought I'd include my thoughts on it. Realistically, the only real reason I would bug out is if the area I live in became unacceptably violent in WROL (my area doesn't have dangerous weather like hurricanes or tornadoes). In that event, I'm leaving my house for another friend/family member's house, and I want to be able to adequately defend myself during and after the trip to the bug out location, since the danger will be high. Therefore I want an intermediate caliber rifle for bugging out (as well as my EDC pistol), which ideally would be a folding-stock AK inside of an Eberelestock S34 Secret Weapon backpack (to maintain some gray man appearance, although the sight of a pack might be enough reason to get attacked). Yes, it's more weight, but I'll deal with it; considering my situation and area, this seems to be the best choice for a bugout rifle. I do not want violence visited upon myself, or to visit violence on others, but I have to be ready for that possibility, and I don't want to rely on a .22 to defend myself.
@simonferrer
@simonferrer 9 жыл бұрын
I've thought about this a bit since watching this video, and may have a compromise between defensive firepower and practical survival use. Consider an AR pistol w/brace (or go the NFA route and SBR it, think how small a package you can get with that Troy stock system and a short barrel), micro red dot and folding backup sights, no more than 4 x 30 round mags (enough for one in the gun and a single 3-mag shingle) for emergency defensive use, but also with a Ciener .22 LR conversion bolt and 1 or 2 conversion magazines with perhaps 200 rounds of .22 LR in your pack. I know that the twist and diameter are wrong and the shots tend to keyhole past 30 yards or so, but for small game that is adequate range, and on a deer you can risk the crack of 5.56 for a surer killing shot. I think that may be a reasonable compromise between weight, durability, firepower, and effective game procurement in one package.
@Nyhetskanaler
@Nyhetskanaler 9 жыл бұрын
As always, an amazing video
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