Martin Scorcese On Ingmar Bergman

[@gallery7596]

He's not too intimidated to admit *"I didn't understand a lot of what was happening."*

[@notsureiL]

Shows what a great mind Scorsese have.

[@jxomxo]

@Peter Kelner XD Aw who’s an edgy boy?

[@ingvarhallstrom2306]

I wonder where the belief came from that a film has to be fully understood at a first viewing only? You can listen to a piece of music hundreds of times? There are books I've reread dozens of times? A painting can be viewed every day? But a film is a one way ticket? That's bollocks. Some films are so complex and nuanced it takes several times to just take it all in. What it all means can take a lifetime.

[@anton1990]

@@ingvarhallstrom2306 Hear, hear! 👏🏻

[@rodycaz8984]

@peterkelnerxd7009 LOL.

[@kingwilson06ad]

What Mr Scorsese says is spot on about Bergman’s films: a conversation with himself.

[@michaelwu7678]

Yeah it’s called “thinking”

[@fllicksick]

Seriously I couldn’t think of a better way to describe Bergman’s body of works. The same can be argued for many other filmmakers, but there’s a dialectic vulnerability that’s so specific to Bergman’s movies, almost like each script was a diary entry for him

[@cud9104]

@@fllicksick Exactly.

[@Sardleby]

That's not as profound an observation as this comment makes it seem to be

[@jesuslabra]

Bergman is the painter of the human soul

[@tamerov2387]

Well said!

[@kingwilson06ad]

Beautifully described

[@jesuslabra]

@@tamerov2387 Thanks

[@jesuslabra]

@@kingwilson06ad Thanks

[@psi.kevinzamoraraya]

@@kingwilson06ad yessss

[@williamgregory1848]

Bergman’s films were profoundly personal meditations into the myriad struggles facing the psyche and the soul

[@alexl3500]

Recently watched Seventh Seal and Wild Strawberries for the first time and simply blown away by both of them. So much depth and philosophical questions to think about whilst being presented in a way that comes across as remarkably genuine and without seeming pretentious. Really want to see more of his work and its great to see Scorsese, a filmmaker I also greatly admire and has made fantastic work praise him

[@JakeGittes84]

Have you watched any of his other films since?

[@shinzoisnotliving]

Check Hour of Wolf. It's a surrealist horror film that he made. Very good, too

[@paulvoorhies8821]

My faves are Persona, Fanny & Alexander and Scenes From A Marriage. I even liked Face To Face.

[@sudhirpv]

Now watch Ozu.

[@alexl3500]

@@JakeGittes84 yeah I did a full Binge of about 10 of his films shortly after I made that comment though I can't remember exactly which ones. Do remember watching Persona and Cries and Whispers though and thinking Person was particularly good

[@65g4]

Bergman was a master filmmaker i urge anyone who hasnt seen his films to discover them

[@aaronsmith2688]

I think they should start by watching The Seventh Seal (1957).

[@65g4]

@@aaronsmith2688 yes thats his best good place to start

[@ritam8767]

Where the hell do I find them? I'm interested in watching the old classics, but they're difficult to find online.

[@levy7257]

@The Observer most of them you can find here on youtube, full and good quality

[@force263]

@@aaronsmith2688 The Virgin Spring.

[@andresgajardo9273]

Exactly, truly artistic work doesn’t go out of fashion. I wish more artists were aware of that.

[@Sardleby]

It literally does. Nothing about the slow style and emotional scope of Ingmar Bergman movies are in fashion; they urge you to think and feel rather than supplying a ravenous push of shocking tremors through you that divert critical thought. Remaining in fashion doesn't mean continuing to be relatable and able to connect to an audience no matter the size of that audience. Remaining in fashion means continuing to be of the prevailing style. What's even crazier is he's literally saying Ingmar Bergman's movies will never be out of fashion because he thinks nobody understands them. That's a fairly idiotic observation (from a guy who makes unbearable movies). He's clearly just talking out of his ass here, like most people do most of the time. Most people can't, off the cuff, reflect deeply in real time all that well - almost certainly myself and yourself, dear reader of this assuredly much too thought out and unpopular KZbin comment, included. Typing that all out was definitely an unsatisfying waste of my limited time on this planet. Should have kept it cooped up in my dumb journals. I'm going to go read a book. KZbin blows.

[@JasonPerryman]

Would love to see more of Marty's talk on Bergman, especially on his contemplations about God etc.. I'd be thinking about his questions or possible portrayals of God or how his characters would percieve him for long after I see his films, so to go deeper with Scorsese who does the same with his films would be really fascinating. I need to see more of Ingmar's films too while I'm at it. Wish they could get all of his catalogue onto the likes of Amazon.

[@thomaslocke8114]

Pretty much all of his films are on Criterion’s streaming service. They also put out a giant blu ray box set with all his films in it.

[@suf3799]

There's a lot for free on KZbin

[@JasonPerryman]

@@suf3799 Thanks! I've found a few films on there that I watched a couple of months ago. I may pop back in there and see some more now that you reminded me.

[@w.iraheta3769]

@@JasonPerryman save up for the next 50% off Criterion Barnes and Noble Sale or the Criterion 50% flash sale (if you live in the United States). It’s well worth it.

[@MrRazorblade999]

@@thomaslocke8114 It's far from all his films in the box

[@zoperxplex]

Ingmar Bergman is the only film maker who elevated cinema from an instrument of mass entertainment to a fine art. All the others who attempted to failed. In the pantheon of motion pictures illuminaries there is Bergman and then there are all the rest.

[@leecourtney1225]

Bergman was a genuis but doesn't stand alone. Bergman did Bergman, Kubrick, Kubrick, Ford Ford etc etc. Kubrick will always be my greatest. Marty himself said "Watching a Kubrick film is like gazing up at a mountain top. You look up and wonder, "How could anyone have climbed that high?".

[@Kurtvileseggnog]

Wong Kar Wai, Tarkovsky and Bela Tarr have done the same

[@mkwke215]

He's doing tricks on it 😂😂

[@lukeconzo]

Having seen Wild Strawberries, I have to agree that Ingmar Bergman is a really good filmmaker. That film alone is amazing.

[@cud9104]

cries and whispers & the seventh seal of Bergman are a must see too!

[@lukeconzo]

@@cud9104 I haven’t seen Cries and Whispers, but I have seen The Seventh Seal. That one is also excellent.

[@cud9104]

@@lukeconzo truly it is :) i think The Seventh Seal is the highest or the most highly acclaimed film of Bergman

[@NoirFan84]

@@cud9104 Bergman has a load of 'must sees'. Persona, Autumn Sonata, Fanny & Alexander, Scenes From A Marriage are all personal favourites & brilliant. Even some of his earlier less intellectually & philosophically challenging works like Summer Interlude & Summer With Monika are really good.

[@notsureiL]

So one of my favorite directors praises one of my other favorite director. Scorsese Bergman Kubrick Mean Streets is pure art. Too bad they never meet for a round table discussion when Bergman was alive.

[@triceratops7084]

Paul Lannister my top 3 as well!!Kurosawa 4th

[@TheListenerCanon]

Tarkovsky, Kurosawa, Hitchcock, Kubrick, Scorsese, Bergman, Wilder, Fellini, Chaplin, and Welles are my top 10. Oh, and I love Mean Streets. It's like my 4th or 5th favorite Scorsese. It never gets enough love IMO.

[@ritam8767]

@@TheListenerCanon I'd have to add Spielberg and Ridley Scott to that list.

[@1998Cebola]

@@TheListenerCanon you're allowed to watch non canon cinema and create your own taste!

[@TheListenerCanon]

@@ritam8767 Ridley Scott is great but not even in my top 20. Spielberg would be in my top 20 though.

[@ProjectFairmont]

I don’t believe there has ever been a more inspired master of reality than Bergman.

[@TheListenerCanon]

This is like Led Zeppelin talking about The Stones. Two of my favorite directors in one video.

[@Johnconno]

This like Spinal Tap discussing The Beatles.

[@johnp515]

@@Johnconno I like some Martin Scorsese movies but it did come across like that

[@Johnconno]

@@johnp515 Sorry, always loved Mean Streets and I didn't direct Raging Bull.

[@1998Cebola]

Don't compare one of the greatest artist of all time with a Hollywood shithead and two bands commercial pop groups stealing all their hits from blues artists

[@Zaz5y]

@@1998Cebola You need help lol

[@irishelk3]

I love listening to this guy speak, he is so enthusiastic about what he does, i find him very infectious and he seems to be very well read and knows things about history. I love Tim Burton, Tarantino doesn't need my promotion, but i think its fair to say, Scorsese's the best, hands down.

[@BrtiinAZ]

I love Scorsese's humility. He is the greatest director of all time and yet speaks like someone who is just a film fanatic.

[@BrtiinAZ]

@mm43501 who's better than him?

[@filmbuff2777]

@@BrtiinAZ Well Bergman, Fellini, Tarkovsky, Kurosawa, Dreyer, Murnau, Hitchcock, Truffaut, just to name a few are considered greater than Scorsese. Don't get me wrong, I love Scorsese, but there are better directors than him.

[@NoirFan84]

@@filmbuff2777 Truffaut is a little overrated imo even amongst the filmmakers of the French New Wave, of course though he was an early & key influencer. I've never really dug Fellini's films personally but that's neither here nor there when it comes to how phenomenal a filmmaker he was. Wyler, Ozu, Mizoguchi, Satyajit Ray & Visconti are all also up there amongst the very best.

[@kdizzle901]

Kubrick is the greatest in my opinion then Scorsese and Kurosawa then John Ford im just getting into Bergman now

[@nixiety]

that title goes to kubrick. scorsese’s one of the best though

[@GustavoBatataeMoloco]

I love seeing Scorsese talking about directors he admires, he's so smart yet wholesome at the same time

[@chuckduncan3099]

"The Making of Fanny and Alexander" is an excellent documentary that shows Bergman at work.

[@dollydagger4306]

Bergman I think is my favourite foreign director. He was amazing. His films are all so interesting.

[@EclecticoIconoclasta]

Clearly you haven´t seen Adam Sandler´s films. They are spiritual experiences

[@Telstar62a]

He's the atheist's director. You just know there can't be a God if you've found yourself watching one of his movies.

[@vladimirhorowitz]

@@Telstar62a Let's not be pretentious though,. Paul Thomas Anderson loved Adam Sandler movies so much he wrote a screenplay just for him.

[@peterzang]

Oh man. Thank you crying/laughing

[@mdarrenu]

More pepper?

[@vincentabbang]

Very well said. Sandler's Jack and Jill is also an epitome of transcendental meditation on identity and evil twins.

[@davidfkennedy7816]

i could listen to marty talk all day

[@DistantLights]

A Journey through American Cinema with Martin Scorsese, a four hour long documentary

[@SuperAna1954]

Ingmar Bergman, um genial cineasta, que mostrou que não estamos sozinhos nas nossas angústias existenciais.

[@prasantabehera7461]

The Seventh Seal and Virgin Spring was mind-blowing !!

[@pogepi]

try watching bergman's faith trilogy if you like theology. i legit had to pick up the new testament to understand some of his ideas, pretty unique experience :) 1.through the glass darkly 2.winter light 3.the silence if you enjoyed seventh seal, you'll love these even more, as he explores the same concept but at a bit deeper level

[@nahomgirma5095]

So far I have seen Persona and is almost done with The Seventh Seal. And they were something to behold, especially Persona!

[@profoundcontender4696]

Best teacher in the world, sir scorcese

[@jimnewcombe7584]

As far as the governors of this still relatively new art form are concerned, Bergman is - as far as I can tell - the deepest and the most serious.

[@hectopotamia4611]

How I love the pasion of cinema that feel Scorsese

[@tattarrrrattat]

Absolutely. His enthusiasm is infectious.

[@zacsamuel7295]

Maybe the best post on what a storyteller does.

[@deathfellow6737]

Bergman is everything

[@aztroboy1450]

I wonder how they manage to make a three hour cut of a five hour movie Fanny and Alexander still be so good.

[@Cambell777]

Bergman`s use of non-dialogue, just letting us catch the soul of each individual by watching them, is something few, if any in commercial film today dare to do. They are afraid to be different, because there is a budget and profit to be made, and the standard recipe must be kept, at all costs.

[@eargasm1072]

Plus it seems most of the general public have an aversion to, and can't wrap their heads around a non-linear narrative. They need everything spoon-fed to them, connect the dots storytelling. Poor schmucks

[@eargasm1072]

@mm43501 Formulaic is a good adjective

[@withnail-and-i]

Bergman's films have never been commercial though, so it should be considered with other such movies, which are still around.

[@peterthedude8201]

What is this interview from? Would love to see the full interview

[@mellman8799]

Think it’s from his masterclass

[@particleboy3584]

I've seen many of Bergman's works, nearly all, including the very early work. I would say his most accessible work is 'The Sepent's Egg.' Most folks don't realize David Carradine starred in a Bergman film. 'Scenes From A Marriage' is extraordinary- no adult who has ever been in a long-term relationship can fail to watch it to the end. My very favorite, however, is 'Face to Face' due to Liv Ullmann's transcendent performance as a psychiatrist who is slowly losing her mind.

[@filmbuff2777]

The Serpent's Egg is an interesting but flawed film, & it is quite a difficult film to appreciate. The Seventh Seal is more accessible.

[@particleboy3584]

@@filmbuff2777 I disagree. 'The Serpent's Egg' is a great film about the Holocaust, not dissimilar to Fassbender in tone, with a lost and dissilussioned human being fighting against a political machine at its center. The prescience can not be lost on anyone living through these times. 'The Seventh Seal,' however, features all that depressing iconography of the Crusades and, as Steve Guttenberg's character in 'Diner' said after seeing 'The Seventh Seal': 'I've been to Coney Island a million times and I've never seen Death walk on the beach. Not once!"🙂 Just a personal preference.

[@stevenwilliambaylessparks3730]

Why am I here? Does God exist? Am I capable of loving another person? Must I fight against injustice? All questions, and more, that Bergman continually raises.

[@katerynakrytska2675]

What song is playing in the video?

[@riveravaldez]

Wise guy this Scorsese dude.

[@cengizsogutlu]

He is very respected director in Turkey

[@BackboneAgZ]

Imo, Persona is the greatest film ever made

[@MrPINHEAD123]

I 100% agree, the opening sequence puzzles me but I love it. Hour of the Wolf is also pretty good

[@aruen4575]

I like it but I think Autumn Sonata is more my style. Haven’t seen many Bergman

[@mauricioduron3193]

Among Bergman's many masterful works, can't bring myself to choose between 'Persona' and 'Wild Strawberries'.

[@withnail-and-i]

I've never been the biggest fan of his neurosis plagued characters, Autumn Sonata didn't do it at all for me, but then his final official movie, Fanny and Alexander, is one of the greatest I've ever seen.

[@Karacon]

A Space Odyssey?

[@cud9104]

so that's what makes me and scorsese equal, our love and adoration for ingmar fucking bergman

[@sleuthentertainment5872]

You know somebody like Bergman is a master of cinema when Scorsese steals many things of his films

[@kmc1213]

Scorsese is spelled wrong

[@maydavalle]

He may leave you behind a little…💛

[@spb7883]

What’s missing - and what would be interesting to hear Scorsese comment on - is how he as a Catholic reacted to Bergman’s very Lutheran films.

[@chrisc7265]

culturally Scorsese has one foot in the protestant world ... no way he'd survive in Hollywood as a hardcore Catholic his film Silence reminds me very much of Bergman's struggles with faith

[@karl5173]

Wild strawberries, Persona, The Silence.

[@anahita-bn6cy]

Salute sir😁

[@mantabond]

We did not at all take Martin Scorsese too seriously when were little. Now that I am a man I do things like a man, thinking like a man, appreciating like a man.

[@theeab1993]

Guess I have to start watching Bergman movies

[@fergal2424]

Where are you gonna start?

[@vladimirhorowitz]

Tons of them are on Kanopy. I've got Persona, Wild Strawberries, and Seventh Seal under my belt. Still working up to the 5 hr Fanny & Alexander though.

[@ricardocima]

@@vladimirhorowitz F&A is one of the best autobiographical films ever, along with Amarcord and 400 coups. And that Schubert quintet helps a lot.

[@theeab1993]

@@fergal2424 Well I realized I've already seen one with The Seventh Seal. I suppose I'll start with Persona, Scenes from a Marriage, and Autumn Sonata since they're all on the Criterion Chanel and I'll work from there.

[@theeab1993]

@@vladimirhorowitz Yeah, I know that Franny & Alexander is really long so I think I'll hold off on that one too lol.

[@Angels-3xist]

For anyone (especially males) in a state of severe depression, I recommend watching The Seventh Seal.

[@smran7835]

Why???

[@Angels-3xist]

@@smran7835 Good point. I take it back.

[@filmbuff2777]

The Seventh Seal isn't really that depressing like its reputation suggests. It does have some quite funny moments. While its not my ideal film I'd go to if I was suffering from depression, but its still not entirely a depressing experience to watch.

[@Angels-3xist]

@@filmbuff2777 I always thought the main character had severe depression, but that it is a movie that really highlites what brings us out of that. So I agree. It’s not actually that depressing. It’s hopeful. That’s why I recommend it to those feeling despair.

[@ismailyaman3779]

0:01 - 0:17 - 01:00

[@MapleSyrupPoet]

Marty knows ...peace brother

[@davidlevy4291]

Good call Marty.

[@OZAKIchannel]

Scorsese the type of guy to move his head instead of the toothbrush

[@Alejandro-kp4cc]

He feels about Bergman the same way I feel about him

[@vivekanand5563]

Scorsese is really the American Ingmar Bergman... The religious dilemma, the strong commitment to serious drama, horrid characters fighting their inner demons, the amazing acting throughout, the sense of claustrophobia. Even if there are a couple of American directors that are slightly better (Welles, Malick, Kubrick possibly), none of them are as impressive from a purely dramatic perspective. Even though Scorsese has a multitude of influences ranging from Powell, Ford, Walsh, Godard, De Sica, Visconti, Fellini, Antonioni, Bresson, Kurosawa, and even though his films are a lot flashier than Bergman's, the emotional core in his films resonates most with the films of Bergman (and Kazan). We can see it in most films like Mean Streets, Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, The Last Temptation of Christ, The Age of Innocence, Bringing Out the Dead, even in The Departed. I think he is the best dramatist after Bergman. He probably might not have understood everything that went on in a Bergman film when he was younger, but from his films, it seems clear that he has understood enough to create his own masterpieces. The reason people do not really draw parallels between Scorsese and Bergman could be because Bergman was exceptional with his female characters, while that is somewhat missing in Scorsese's films relatively speaking. Bergman is the #1 filmmaker of all-time in my mind, and Scorsese would definitely be in the Top 10. And Scorsese is always humble while speaking about his favourite masters, which is an amazing quality.

[@paulvoorhies8821]

Woody Allen is more Bergman than Scorsese, I think, even though many of his are comedies.

[@vivekanand5563]

@@paulvoorhies8821 Allen would have liked to be the American Bergman, but he would be the first to admit that he is not. There are similarities between Bergman and Allen simply because he pays homage to Bergman (or 'steals from Bergman' to paraphrase Allen). Scorsese is the greatest straight-forward dramatic director America has produced (Welles, Kubrick, Malick are ahead of Scorsese, but they didn't/don't do straightforward drama). P.T. Anderson has followed in the footsteps of Bergman and Scorsese now. Woody Allen is actually peerless when it comes to being the greatest comedy filmmaker of the sound era.

[@Johnconno]

Watching Mean Streets, Goodfellas, The Irishman, the first thing that comes to mind is Bergman...Bergman...Bergman... ; )

[@filmbuff2777]

What about Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, The King of Comedy, After Hours, The Last Temptation of Christ, The Age of Innocence, Kundun, The Aviator, Hugo, or Silence?

[@kristine8338]

Bergman is ecclectic. The Swedish emotional restrictivness is tangible through the screen. La légèreté of the French should bring some air into the atmosphere of Bergmans 'pictures'.

[@romansoto9644]

*Scorsese

[@friend5625]

NICR

[@honghavok]

Who

[@robertgiles9124]

Bergman made some great films, but he also make some real stinkers. Seventh Seal was a favorite as well as Cries and

[@Sardleby]

Yes. He definitely left Scorsese behind a lot.

[@MikelGCinema]

If you want meaning in this life, it's Bergman, if you want to see God, it's Tarkovsky.

[@smran7835]

Don't you feel identity crisis after watching Bergman's film??

[@marknewbold2583]

Get his name right

[@shuaigege12345]

What ever happened to the rule of show dont tell in film? His characters constantly sit around telling in trumped up pseudo-intellectual dialogue. A lot of his films are very pretentious and extremely tedious. I like Cries and Whispers and Wild Strawberries a lot, but the others are pretty average and fall far short of what they are wanting to be. Just my opinion.

[@HimanshuinSearchOfSomethingNew]

I personally find bergman movies too pretentious and boaring, no actions only Dialogues. I have seen 'Persona' and 'The seventh seal' All I can say is he's not my cup of tea. I Love Godard's 'The contempt' thoo and Melville's "Le Samurai". But bergman cinema is awfully Pretentious for me

[@herrbonk3635]

Börrgmänn.

[@THEHSTAV]

Devil

[@farmor1023]

As a Swede I never liked any of his movies. I even left in the middle of the movie because it was too dark and depressing!

[@mattep74]

Bergman is overrated.