Maru vs Dark TvZ - Quarterfinals - 2019 WCS Global Finals - StarCraft II

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@zest2932
@zest2932 5 жыл бұрын
Zerg's instant remax is just OP.
@CocolinoFan
@CocolinoFan 5 жыл бұрын
Game 1: 3:13 Game 2: 30:16 Game 3: 44:07 Bonus: Maps: 2:56
@Danielkqw
@Danielkqw 4 жыл бұрын
Thx
@CocolinoFan
@CocolinoFan 4 жыл бұрын
@@Danielkqw Np ^^
@ashhall4577
@ashhall4577 5 жыл бұрын
Zerg is so broken, you can see in games when skill level is equal that Zerg always has the upper hand in any stage of the game beyond 3 minutes.
@reddeatharena9218
@reddeatharena9218 4 жыл бұрын
Before the Zerg rush was needed they were ahead then as well
@dreamerseas5973
@dreamerseas5973 5 жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion - nerf queens. That’s the best way to stop this Zerg whitewash. The queen is sooo OP, they counter literally everything early game and with their transfuse they are immortal. All the Zerg player has to do to counter ANY early game pressure is build a few queens which ALSO spread creep. You know they’re OP when a group of hellions and a reaper are too scared to go toe-to-toe with what essentially should be a base nanny unit (34:55)
@standinonstilts
@standinonstilts 4 жыл бұрын
Been saying this since they buffed it so long ago. Two queems can defend any drop. Use 4 queens to push creep and there's basically no way to stop them.
@nolanchristensen7214
@nolanchristensen7214 5 жыл бұрын
Maru, only terran to make it to QUATERFINALS because he's a God but even God's can't beat zergs with the current balance
@nmhalumni4489
@nmhalumni4489 5 жыл бұрын
Nolan Christensen thanks for the spoilers
@NeutralGenericUser
@NeutralGenericUser 5 жыл бұрын
@@nmhalumni4489 Not much of a spoiler tbh
@michaelcorser4350
@michaelcorser4350 5 жыл бұрын
Being honest, Dark is also a God that has been winning/topping tournaments since like 2015. BUT this series shouldn't have been a 3-0. That is the real disappointment.
@llllllllllll1106
@llllllllllll1106 5 жыл бұрын
To be fair maru also played quite bad he used to be better at TvZ also if you look at his lasts TvZs he played way better than that..
@kissshawn
@kissshawn 5 жыл бұрын
lol maru fanboys are retarded
@beckerzineo
@beckerzineo 5 жыл бұрын
Maru is laughing at the balancing the whole time, after game one he's like, "Why even try seriously lmao"
@hhhhippo
@hhhhippo 5 жыл бұрын
Is Dark really this much better than Maru? Nope. Even Rogue said after his match that Zerg isn't balanced.
@zealous944
@zealous944 5 жыл бұрын
PREACH!
@llllllllllll1106
@llllllllllll1106 5 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair this wasn't imbalance this was just maru not performing well
@zealous944
@zealous944 5 жыл бұрын
even said the fact is that 5 of the quarter finalists and 3 of the semi finalists are zerg players. The numbers speak for themselves. Thats more than half with three available races.
@Natsukashy
@Natsukashy 5 жыл бұрын
@Ektawan RUNGPANYARAT 17:41... Thats where i stopped watching... Not because Dark pushed into tanks, a planetary and mass bio and won with basically an A-Click (and 3 blinding clouds, to be fair), but because of the instant remax of Dark.
@Minkywhispers
@Minkywhispers 5 жыл бұрын
Salty Terran Tears 😭
@LemonRuss
@LemonRuss 5 жыл бұрын
this game should be renamed to ZergCraft2
@codguy12
@codguy12 5 жыл бұрын
No
@fairy7848
@fairy7848 5 жыл бұрын
I think this clip of the game should be named Path of Zerg at the end of title.
@lightweightjive
@lightweightjive 5 жыл бұрын
Ferra Torr f*ck you chump. This game sucks and I’ve been playing since before brood wars lol. I’m so sick of seeing pissant Z players win every tournament.
@dreamerseas5973
@dreamerseas5973 5 жыл бұрын
You’re spot on! I’ve been watching casts for 6-7 years and 9/10 ZvTs go to the Zerg. Why won’t blizzard realise and start sensible nerfs to Zerg?
@SergejPoplavskij
@SergejPoplavskij 5 жыл бұрын
Baneling must be fixed - heals points or speed. And in general. Zerg has too many abilities with striking large surfaces with huge damage. Amid the zerg’s abilities, the terran nuclear missile looks so squalid.
@revolutionalist
@revolutionalist 5 жыл бұрын
The sc2 dev team has lost their minds, how stupid are they to progress at this point in blizzcon where even the Zerg players have reach a consensus that Zerg is levels above terran and protoss.
@ShinyKelp
@ShinyKelp 5 жыл бұрын
Zerg's getting quite the nerf next patch tho.
@Papi-qd4tc
@Papi-qd4tc 5 жыл бұрын
@@ShinyKelp A bit too late.
@charlestonleong5753
@charlestonleong5753 5 жыл бұрын
@@Papi-qd4tc just in time for 2020 world series
@kyleerickson5512
@kyleerickson5512 5 жыл бұрын
There is literally nothing terran can do vs zerg except get lucky. Maru was up with army supply AND upgrades and the Zerg just right clicked into Maru's army, and won.
@Gnolomweb
@Gnolomweb 5 жыл бұрын
Still watching 1st game, but Maru's herass was bad. Also, no hellbat vs mass ling?
@zyos11
@zyos11 5 жыл бұрын
The main problem is, T pro players are kinda trash when compared to the best Terrans we had in 2016-17(Like Taeja at its prime). Look at game 2 for example, Zerg used a team comp that has not been changed in YEARS and still crushed Maru like if it was a Master player vs Diamond, on game 1 winfestors were not used, just Hydras that have finally become viable. Where are the drops in 2 bases while doing a hellion run by on the third? Or the 2 liberators harassment in 2 bases while dropping in the main? Pro Terran player quality went down the sink, I hardly get to see games that remind me of the good old times and is not due to the balance, is more due to the quality of this T players.
@walden6272
@walden6272 5 жыл бұрын
@@zyos11 I'm pretty confident the Maru of today could beat Taeja at his prime. Serral would destroy Taeja too.
@trixzify
@trixzify 4 жыл бұрын
@@zyos11 maru is the best terran in history
@Kalenz1234
@Kalenz1234 4 жыл бұрын
Terran can cheese. If the zerg doesn't scout it there is a good chance. Macro game is just straight up impossible unless the zerg trolls with subpar unit compositions like ultra/lurker.
@ryansteenbakkers9057
@ryansteenbakkers9057 5 жыл бұрын
at the end of the day - Zerg always wins
@mattb6646
@mattb6646 3 жыл бұрын
Not today zerg!
@raynorsun9849
@raynorsun9849 3 жыл бұрын
Dark just faster maybe
@werwftfg3123
@werwftfg3123 5 жыл бұрын
Like what is the point of these matches when Zerg always win?
@zed2225
@zed2225 5 жыл бұрын
salty terran tears brah
@beckerzineo
@beckerzineo 5 жыл бұрын
@Jesus Rosendo Serral just lost to Raynor though lol But it is really weird the way they balance the game, you can see that Koreans are usually beast at micro and tend to have the stronger Protosses and Terrans. Foreigners (Europeans I mean) only ever had chance with Zerg. IdrA, Stephano, Scarlett, Serral and now Raynor, all the foreigners that matter at all (that can fight Koreans) are Zerg. Is a really weird tendency, and Blizzard always tended to favor Zerg in the balance, so... I think the even weirder thing is that foreigners only have a chance with macro, that the micro still is really bad and no Protoss or Terran here can compare to the Koreans. Wouldn't it make more sense for "worse players" to be better at "cheese", aka faster, more micro intensive early game. This game just doesn't make any sense really.
@acidosis1985
@acidosis1985 5 жыл бұрын
It is actually a good thing, now everyone who is blind also knows how OP Zerg is. Blizzard is gonna give them the nerf hammer and then Serral and the foreign zerg are gonna disappear into obscurity and the Korean Terrans will rise again.
@acidosis1985
@acidosis1985 5 жыл бұрын
@Jesus Rosendo Also, SC2 is popular with foreigners now. Koreans already don't care about SC2 hence the reason why they want to make a non-korean popular with all the "winnings".
@DarkSlayer9311
@DarkSlayer9311 5 жыл бұрын
agreed, zerg has too many CC, skills, play style and strategies... Terran sometime still can put up a match, but protoss nowadays is just sad
@andis.1722
@andis.1722 5 жыл бұрын
WCS 2019 - 2 wins / 12 lose for Terran vs Zerg - Blizzard got the BalancingBlindingCloud in her brains
@maripage3147
@maripage3147 5 жыл бұрын
I know this is useless but, Blizzard do not balance the whole game over the top 100 players, the game is amazigly balanced, enough that even with a 1000 games played you would not be able to know if imba or variance. One explanation: Zerg is harder to master/play but once you do it's better than the others. Starcraft is a competitive game solely based on skills stop trying to buff lack of it.
@tigera6
@tigera6 5 жыл бұрын
@@maripage3147 but the thing is they did do that in the past, and they are going to do that again soon. Infested Terran is gone, Nydus Worm and Infestor will also be nerfed.
@schach6666
@schach6666 5 жыл бұрын
MariPage check out the stats on aligulac. Zerg has about 53% win rate against terran and even about 55% against protoss.
@vaettra1589
@vaettra1589 5 жыл бұрын
Love me the tears of the biomass!
@yinyi4234
@yinyi4234 5 жыл бұрын
It’s easy. ZvZvZvZ 😆
@Yayaloy9
@Yayaloy9 5 жыл бұрын
Ya know the result when the video is an hour long and zerg wins the first. Sad. ;-;
@hugosudres7238
@hugosudres7238 5 жыл бұрын
That second game prove that Dark is really good. Mutas where not scouted and very well used against Maru army.
@shohokuslamdunk
@shohokuslamdunk 5 жыл бұрын
Maru is the best Terran in the world, the only Terran who made it to blizzcon Rd of 8. and TvZ is his best match up. Didn't look like he had a chance
@Markfr0mCanada
@Markfr0mCanada 5 жыл бұрын
12:38 When your date is going well.
@DrWizzles
@DrWizzles 5 жыл бұрын
Didn’t read the comments before watching because of trolls spoiling. You will never get me!
@w8stral
@w8stral 5 жыл бұрын
As if it would matter, they publish the finals/quarterfinals before Ro8.... so....
@michaelcorser4350
@michaelcorser4350 5 жыл бұрын
@@w8stral I dont know how WCS fans deal with this. Coming over from primarily watching GSL, the video uploads, revealing thumbnails, and general "not even bothering to upload in the correct format" is literally gross and caused me to skip a lot of matches I might've otherwise watched.
@mikechan2942
@mikechan2942 5 жыл бұрын
everyone knows zerg will win
@panamera3359
@panamera3359 5 жыл бұрын
big blizzard mistake, it is clear that the Zerg is not balanced, the Terra is always below the three races
@lovemycutebear
@lovemycutebear 5 жыл бұрын
Blizzard should feel shameful that they made the game so imbalanced going into the WCS global finals... It's supposed to be the most exciting series possible probably except Maru vs. Serral, but it just ended quickly as expected.. The margin of error for Terrans is so small now, but the zergs are allowed to make all kinds of mistakes... My impression is that even if Maru were to play a perfect game, he would still lose... only 9000 views of this video.. GG starcraft... good luck we will still have sc3...
@ChandlerMBing-ee1qb
@ChandlerMBing-ee1qb 5 жыл бұрын
sc3?
@AllThingsFascinate
@AllThingsFascinate 4 жыл бұрын
I think they said there won't be an Sc3
@jamiebutler1762
@jamiebutler1762 3 жыл бұрын
I remember playing sc so much. I would get in my car and see scv's pass across my window. And when it was silent I would hear the sound of the mineing.
@ThatDanielTv
@ThatDanielTv 13 күн бұрын
The stars aligned for Dark in this series!
@gabrielataylorchaves1529
@gabrielataylorchaves1529 5 жыл бұрын
Zerg is currently SO OP.... Is sad to be Terran in these conditions...after almost 10 years, this game is far from being balanced.
@tagged581
@tagged581 5 жыл бұрын
it's still the most balanced it has ever been, it's just that the zergs have units that can be very exploited in the late to supreme late game,
@tyson2b2t
@tyson2b2t 4 жыл бұрын
@@tagged581 terran is carzy for me
@echommm3621
@echommm3621 4 жыл бұрын
Did you see dark’s economy? It’s not balance salty boi, Maru never caught up.
@SisyphusDungball
@SisyphusDungball 4 жыл бұрын
@@echommm3621 They each had 77 workers one even bases at one point, and w/ mules Maru's economy was better than Dark's.
@raimonwintzer
@raimonwintzer 4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao. Except that i remember that time from the game's release to about 2016 when it was literally terran and protoss win trading. Don't remember any T and P complaining then.
@thnktank1
@thnktank1 5 жыл бұрын
BC's should spawn space marines
@gfbox3681
@gfbox3681 5 жыл бұрын
Another zerg won against a terran? What a surprising news!
@lunedefroid8817
@lunedefroid8817 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a spoiler. Not that I was surprised, though.
@reddeatharena9218
@reddeatharena9218 5 жыл бұрын
gfbox and its dark who known as one of the best Zerg
@AllThingsFascinate
@AllThingsFascinate 4 жыл бұрын
@@reddeatharena9218 You can watch the game and see the balance issues. Dark didn't do any of the things he's capable of that make him Dark, he just rolled Zerg.
@andreygrigorev8366
@andreygrigorev8366 4 жыл бұрын
he have done all the things very well, nearly ideal
@5sos-dontstopthevamps-rest679
@5sos-dontstopthevamps-rest679 5 жыл бұрын
39:05 pls dont nerf zerg
@elpojoloco339
@elpojoloco339 5 жыл бұрын
Nerf zerg pls and buff terran make terran great again we are all human
@Enuelle
@Enuelle 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@ongnback9914
@ongnback9914 5 жыл бұрын
Make the Terran/Human great again 😂😂😂
@yinyi4234
@yinyi4234 5 жыл бұрын
Trump ask you buff terran..
@2019inuyasha
@2019inuyasha 5 жыл бұрын
it's change you can count on>>>
@neeksthecuz
@neeksthecuz 5 жыл бұрын
Maru is just waiting til things are more balanced to go beast mode again. Zergs right now just have to either Nydus or wait til Brood Lord/Infestor then it’s GG. Maru knows that so he’s just playing 2018 meta builds, which with his skill, is enough to get to the WCS quarterfinals.
@adityarajan592
@adityarajan592 4 жыл бұрын
wasn't brood lord infestor nerfed in the latest patch?
@juanknows9198
@juanknows9198 5 жыл бұрын
18:24 WTF... lol that sudden burst of number of darks army..
@PoeticJusticeSC
@PoeticJusticeSC 5 жыл бұрын
Not even fun to watch when it looks this one sided.
@zes3813
@zes3813 4 жыл бұрын
wrg, one sidx or not doesnt matter
@josephcoelho1525
@josephcoelho1525 4 жыл бұрын
What u mean?
@samv93
@samv93 5 жыл бұрын
To make zerg more balanced a few things they could do could be: - Overlords have less vision and speed upgrade back to 100 gas - Queens gain energy slower - Only add smaller maps to the pool - Less larva allowed per hatch, force out more proxy hactches and more apm on injects. Harder for zerg to remax too. - Short cool down to Queens transfuse. I personally think this would help balance zerg, What are your opinions?
@allydea
@allydea 5 жыл бұрын
Good ideas, but none of them are addressing PvZ, except maybe the overlord changes, but do we really want to make Protoss more all-in dependent?
@samv93
@samv93 5 жыл бұрын
I guess thats the problem with 3 races. You can't rlly nerf a race so much that it becomes bad, but how can you find the balance without hurting a race too much. I reckon they should program alpha star to create the ultimate balanced game. That'll shut us up xD
@vingmaru4404
@vingmaru4404 5 жыл бұрын
the nydus is definately unfair... limit the terran very few options. all other units are obsolete
@walden6272
@walden6272 5 жыл бұрын
Nydus will be nerfed in next balance update. Cost increase and limits 1 nydus only
@instinctz1
@instinctz1 5 жыл бұрын
The nydus limits terran options? The nydus is the only zerg midgame pressure that isnt straight suicide or all in. The number of possible openers terran has compared to zerg is hilarious. Furthermore its getting nerfed e different ways because all terrans know is cry cry cry.
@duck8280
@duck8280 3 жыл бұрын
@@instinctz1 bronze
@ongnback9914
@ongnback9914 5 жыл бұрын
Is Dark on steroids? He destroyed my favorite player :(
@ThomaxVision
@ThomaxVision 5 жыл бұрын
nah blizzard was when they made zerg.
@wildcat8797
@wildcat8797 4 жыл бұрын
No, Zerg is just super OP.
@leonardoprada1369
@leonardoprada1369 4 жыл бұрын
@@wildcat8797 I guess your are GM to talk about balance ...
@jimraynor1638
@jimraynor1638 4 жыл бұрын
@@leonardoprada1369 of course only expert players can talk properly about balance. But it seems to me that you don't have to be GM and you don't have to possess a deep knowledge of the game to have this basic feeling that maybe there is something wrong, when you see constantly many one-sided games like these. Maybe you don't even need to play sc2
@mattb6646
@mattb6646 3 жыл бұрын
I heard he's been taking zergtosterone
@cwjalexx
@cwjalexx 5 жыл бұрын
@ 10:20 dark makes a pool as soon as he sees the drop. by the time his 1st pool dies his 2nd one is already like a quarter done
@gabydewilde
@gabydewilde 2 жыл бұрын
Fun stuff indeed. He makes it before the drop is picked up! After looking at it a few times I see he spots both bio balls in time then when maru combines them he knows it is a pool snipe. The extra pool is early enough to have a good amount of hp and breaks maru's flow. Insanely wp.
@magi5587
@magi5587 5 жыл бұрын
This is as enjoyable to watch as blizzards selling out gamers to the Chinese government
@moonglow6639
@moonglow6639 5 жыл бұрын
They do ?
@arciel2269
@arciel2269 5 жыл бұрын
Moonglow yes, sadly
@tianjieshen5372
@tianjieshen5372 4 жыл бұрын
这很好呀 你个傻逼
@ChristopherLMunoz
@ChristopherLMunoz 5 жыл бұрын
Queens are more scary than a battlecruiser XD
@KhoaNguyen-fs6to
@KhoaNguyen-fs6to 5 жыл бұрын
Cheap and OP. The only disadvantage is slow speed without creep. It's really balance.
@lordbry470
@lordbry470 5 жыл бұрын
@@KhoaNguyen-fs6to The range and transfuse cost should be nerf imo.
@Maleficarum999
@Maleficarum999 4 жыл бұрын
@@lordbry470 with range nerf on queens you will get oracle/banshee rushes in every single game since zerg anti air comes a bit late. Do you really want go air or go home matches every single time?
@hosackies
@hosackies 4 жыл бұрын
If all else fails, cheese pump 100 lings in 15 seconds. There's no way the other race can produce faster than that.
@Sirkento
@Sirkento 5 жыл бұрын
Balance for the sake of views and game income! ZvZ is boring and has been worn out
@simonlindu3930
@simonlindu3930 4 жыл бұрын
I want Warcraft 3
@legendmommyhangvang8268
@legendmommyhangvang8268 5 жыл бұрын
Need marine drop pods would be op
@emeryalbers
@emeryalbers 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I knew how to grab my whole army and hit 1 A. Such sick micro.
@Kalenz1234
@Kalenz1234 4 жыл бұрын
By playing Zerg :D
@5sos-dontstopthevamps-rest679
@5sos-dontstopthevamps-rest679 5 жыл бұрын
I miss the time when flash crushing zerg even in late game
@caloreen1992
@caloreen1992 5 жыл бұрын
You mean those hour long mech games where he would never attack and just wait for zerg to kill themselves against static d? Wasn't that rivetting either tbh...
@davidabeillaud5521
@davidabeillaud5521 5 жыл бұрын
Zerg broken race
@kamasoupraliquidgourmet2753
@kamasoupraliquidgourmet2753 5 жыл бұрын
They just have to reduce the supersized maps favoring zerg.
@testthewest123
@testthewest123 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, bring back Steppes of War!
@AllThingsFascinate
@AllThingsFascinate 4 жыл бұрын
No, change the race design issues. You shouldn't have a race automatically win if the map is too large.
@Kalenz1234
@Kalenz1234 4 жыл бұрын
The problem doesn't lie with the maps. It lies with zerg.
@TheExtremeJoey
@TheExtremeJoey 5 жыл бұрын
If you are Zerg and you lose, you must be pretty bad
@aidenwhiting5131
@aidenwhiting5131 4 жыл бұрын
Yet when the other races are good, nobody discredits the players, dark is a very good player, it wasn't all due to zerg
@chrisordway7950
@chrisordway7950 5 жыл бұрын
Even Maru can't play like Maru
@rjsteeves
@rjsteeves 5 жыл бұрын
so sad. I miss his better days
@Makronne
@Makronne 5 жыл бұрын
WHERE ARE THE HELLIONS ?!
@Makronne
@Makronne 5 жыл бұрын
@Dieter Gaudlitz I think you can when you spamming siege tanks and cyclons (talking about first game)
@WhitePum4
@WhitePum4 2 жыл бұрын
Why do pros use scans to kill creep when they have starport tech. A raven costs exactly 2 scans and has extra utility and is permanent...
@nmlsaiya
@nmlsaiya 5 жыл бұрын
Dark didnt abuse on any of the things that many of us disucuss.. winfestors nydus etc.. so i dont know what u can possible make on them.. maybe dark is too stronk
@NeutralGenericUser
@NeutralGenericUser 5 жыл бұрын
The entire race is imbalanced. Most of the games Serral won at WCS had no Infestors, Nydus, etc. Not to say Serral isn't a great player, but he's not so much better than his Terran opponents that he should be getting KO matches every time.
@kaarleenzz
@kaarleenzz 5 жыл бұрын
People just like to cry about balance. Even if he would have won using only queens, people would still cry.
@llllllllllll1106
@llllllllllll1106 5 жыл бұрын
Well he used nydus 😅 which forced 2+ tanks to be in main / base to defend it which is kinda good But i do agree this was more due to maru not performin well..
@kaarleenzz
@kaarleenzz 5 жыл бұрын
@@llllllllllll1106 Same as the drop threat of terran that forces unitis / static defense on side bases.
@matejsmrekar1218
@matejsmrekar1218 5 жыл бұрын
The main issue is creep spread , having 3/4 vision of the map by the 8 to 10th minute is ridiculous. Thats just maphacks implemented in a race.
@koruki
@koruki 4 жыл бұрын
Wait how old are these guys. Those wedding bands I spot on both of them?
@toni_7035
@toni_7035 5 жыл бұрын
I used to love watch sc2. now I just can't bother with it because of the Zerg situation.
@matthewbaumann630
@matthewbaumann630 4 жыл бұрын
What made Zerg "OP"? I haven't been keeping up with the patches.
@jasongg7327
@jasongg7327 4 жыл бұрын
Casters and the community bitching.
@SisyphusDungball
@SisyphusDungball 4 жыл бұрын
To the person above me: Kinda interesting how last year all GSL events were won by Zerg. Kinda interesting that this has never happened before. I think the patch after blizzcon says something: Broodling leash range decreased from 12 to 9 Removed the Infested Terran ability. Neural Parasite range decreased from 9 to 8. Nydus Worm cost increased from 50/50 to 75/75. Summon Nydus Worm ability cooldown increased from 0 to 14. Nydus Network and Nydus Worm initial unload delay increased from 0.18 to 0.36. Nydus Network and Nydus Worm load period increased from 0.09 to 0.18. Nydus Network and Nydus Worm unload period increased from 0.18 to 0.36.
@AllThingsFascinate
@AllThingsFascinate 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasongg7327 Zerg spotted. OP, the way creep is working, a few issues with vipers (and some infestor), and nydus.
@josub3372
@josub3372 5 жыл бұрын
Great games!
@hhhhippo
@hhhhippo 5 жыл бұрын
Tanks need to do way more splash damage to lings.
@nerowolf1234
@nerowolf1234 5 жыл бұрын
thats why they got hellions, they are ment to shell at the hydras and roachs, not deal with the lings :P
@djuraster
@djuraster 5 жыл бұрын
"lets give zerg ravagers so they can snipe sieged tanks"
@heldenkatze
@heldenkatze 5 жыл бұрын
no
@hhhhippo
@hhhhippo 5 жыл бұрын
@@nerowolf1234 Tank/bio gets absolutely wrecked by ling/bane
@quyiter
@quyiter 5 жыл бұрын
@@nerowolf1234 - when new balance patch rolls out might see some mix up with blue flame hellbats. Could make a difference.
@alexjeezusm28
@alexjeezusm28 5 жыл бұрын
I used to play this game in 2015
@pepelepeuf
@pepelepeuf 4 жыл бұрын
Maru 4 vs 3 Dark... GSL Super Tourneament Season 1 2020 😉
@leexingha
@leexingha 5 жыл бұрын
game 1 is a simple battle of attrition
@jimsu2726
@jimsu2726 5 жыл бұрын
There was a few years where Terran was simply OP, and same with Protoss, why suddenly everyone complaining about Zerg OP? PS: Dark is just very very good
@OOCMonster
@OOCMonster 5 жыл бұрын
People complained about those back then. People like to complain.
@AllThingsFascinate
@AllThingsFascinate 4 жыл бұрын
"if one thing was OP, the most logical thing to do is make the other thing OP. Aiming for balance is a bad idea" - Jim Su
@Kalenz1234
@Kalenz1234 4 жыл бұрын
Terran was op in sc2 beta and for a couple months after wings of liberty launched because the developer team had NO CLUE what they were doing. Then they hit terran with nerfs that basically took thors, reapers, bcs out of the game which plummeled terran winrates way below 50% and called it balanced. There where a couple spikes of winrates for terran over the years where the dev team again screwed up, like with the introduction of the insanely overpowered cyclones before those were nerfed too. Terran was never in a balanced state.
@luckrevaux3999
@luckrevaux3999 5 жыл бұрын
Maru es el Dios de los Terran...pero ni aun así con el desbalance de fuerzas que tienen los zerg....no hay posibilidades de ganar...no se que dirá alphastar
@basinvesting7219
@basinvesting7219 5 жыл бұрын
If Terran or Protoss has a "GG" unit/structure like Nydus Network, or Infestors which instantly brought win rate to 90%+ in pro games, Zerg players would complain too. As of now, this ridiculousness is becoming unwatchable.
@shadesofmist9214
@shadesofmist9214 4 жыл бұрын
awesome matches !!!
@babochee
@babochee 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe add a tier 3 upgrade that gives each terran rax a minigun that does the dps of a marine or something.
@Kalenz1234
@Kalenz1234 4 жыл бұрын
Give terran the science vessel from broodwar with irradiate which kills lurker/broodlords/vipers/infestors with one cast and brings ultras down to 50% That might be a small start towards balance.
@JL-ef7bh
@JL-ef7bh 5 жыл бұрын
I really think Bio against Zerg is the worst possible unit comp at this point. Zerg can smash through bio like a sledge hammer on a glass surface.
@Kalenz1234
@Kalenz1234 4 жыл бұрын
Mech is the only hope. I'm not gonna say mech is viable but at least there is a dream there. Bio is just suicide.
@stratixfinance
@stratixfinance 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite two casters.
@umarelimbaev02
@umarelimbaev02 5 жыл бұрын
What happened to Maru? He definitely wasn't performing his best. If I didn't know that it was Maru, I would never believe this!
@Kalenz1234
@Kalenz1234 4 жыл бұрын
He just gave up after the 1st game. He didn't see a point in playing.
@gndnls
@gndnls 5 жыл бұрын
These fps drops/lags really sucks.
@jebediah4780
@jebediah4780 4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe all of these people are complaining about balance when the skill difference is so obvious. Dark is the best player in the world right now and Maru is like what 20th? 10th? Maru failed to build a good counter to the mass ling hydra bane in the first game and just wasted all his tanks in trades. He got completely surprised by the tech change in the second game which will kill you in any matchup. Then in the final game in normal dark fashion he does an all in that killed Maru because he rushed a tier 3 capital ship to harass and then immediately followed up with wasting more units on a tank push, and failed to react quickly enough to two nydus building one after the other in his own main base. I don't know what balance you could make to change this. You people are taking sample sizes of literally 4-8 people once a year and then saying balance needs to change.
@ybk9698
@ybk9698 4 жыл бұрын
Who's this idiot
@oscarsosa8079
@oscarsosa8079 5 жыл бұрын
Maru better Zerg is op
@lotsapoppa994
@lotsapoppa994 4 жыл бұрын
i wonder how chess masters/players would do at this game
@poporikishin4922
@poporikishin4922 4 жыл бұрын
Chess are slow phase while rts games is fast phase. Chess master dont need fast reflex while rts game need reflex to match high apm of your enemy that why esport player reflex skill and fast hand deteriorate because of aging and resign from being pro player mid 20s while chess master dont cause u only need experience and tons of knowledge and strategy and u see a lot of old chess master still compete. Except fighting game since those game is less punishable of for fast reflex but need to compensate by predicting your opponent move.
@VERRUCKT411
@VERRUCKT411 5 жыл бұрын
Maru seemed really tired right ?
@DrUkeMusic
@DrUkeMusic 5 жыл бұрын
OBJECTIF TPE 20/20 yeah. Seemed like Maru mailed this one in
@reloadingdontshoot1
@reloadingdontshoot1 5 жыл бұрын
Tired of zerg being OP for sure ya
@michaelcorser4350
@michaelcorser4350 5 жыл бұрын
As soon as his medivac movement failed to go around the tower vision in the first game (8:55), it was a fairly simple statement to say he wasn't performing his best.
@turquoise3679
@turquoise3679 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, anyone know why Manu didn't use the 'fire bombs' he used on Serral's vipers, which is so effective for swarms? could be more effective against Dark's zerglings in game 1, He can't use marines against zerglings which can be re-spawned without cost every 30 sec or so.
@Kalenz1234
@Kalenz1234 4 жыл бұрын
what?
@orange6497
@orange6497 4 жыл бұрын
I cant understand anything
@ngadiminsim3244
@ngadiminsim3244 4 жыл бұрын
no infestor.. no infested terran... zerg still won so all the nerfs were unneseccary actually.. .
@tatthanhphanho244
@tatthanhphanho244 5 жыл бұрын
So late to watching, i wanna watching after live match 1 hour
@LupinLuu
@LupinLuu 4 жыл бұрын
Tieng Anh nhu lo`n!
@davidandino3799
@davidandino3799 5 жыл бұрын
Nate Dog is that guy.
@Xehemoth
@Xehemoth 4 жыл бұрын
You guys are complaining about balance, but Terran just didnt perform as well as Zerg. He got starved out.
@mr.aiyaya1727
@mr.aiyaya1727 4 жыл бұрын
虫族“雄霸天下” 小马哥被虐的太惨了,好可惜,期望越大,失望越大,小马哥,下次加油!!
@zes3813
@zes3813 4 жыл бұрын
不存在期望失望,霸不霸
@C05597641
@C05597641 5 жыл бұрын
zerg OP
@NghiaTran-rk7lw
@NghiaTran-rk7lw 4 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy watching T and Z gameplay. Not a fan of P, they r not supper mobile like T or high rusher like Z at all
@啦啦-f4h
@啦啦-f4h 5 жыл бұрын
why scarlet dont play...🙁
@OlleMattsson
@OlleMattsson 5 жыл бұрын
are we sure that was maru playing, and not the alphastar terran agent?!?
@Umbra_of_Emberspike
@Umbra_of_Emberspike 4 жыл бұрын
Another 3-0 Maru failure. NEXT!
@996vtwin2
@996vtwin2 5 жыл бұрын
TErran needs to build production closer to the battle like zerg does.
@alexanderlolillactas9843
@alexanderlolillactas9843 5 жыл бұрын
Maru creo que ya pasaron sus buenos años...
@shadesofmist9214
@shadesofmist9214 4 жыл бұрын
Zerg isnt OP , you need other techniqs to win
@christopherng5565
@christopherng5565 5 жыл бұрын
Omg everyone whining “Zerg OP” but these games were just super standard stuff from Zerg with no broodlords-Maru was just playing way worse than he normally does and just rolling over and dying
@quyiter
@quyiter 5 жыл бұрын
Maru was playing really well, but not even he can beat a Zerg past 20 minutes unless they just start throwing their army.
@mercurial4854
@mercurial4854 5 жыл бұрын
Maru didn't play that bad. He stopped almost all the nyduses. The difference came when armies were traded zerg can instant remax and Terran can't. If rebuilding was equal speed, it would be very different games
@divijdurve
@divijdurve 5 жыл бұрын
DARK-ness REIGNS!
@UD2
@UD2 5 жыл бұрын
thx for loading the semi finals with names. I’m not gonna watch this video now
@MrScottalicious
@MrScottalicious 5 жыл бұрын
Maru got smoked.. too bad, I really want terran to advance
@amineaiffa
@amineaiffa 5 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for terran players lol
@ThomaxVision
@ThomaxVision 5 жыл бұрын
Zerg = higher damage low cost = win.. always.. Want to fix zerg Blizzard? Make unit cost more, like the rest terran and protoss... But don't listen to me blizzard because i am going to make a better RTS game.
@pablofabianramirezarias8152
@pablofabianramirezarias8152 5 жыл бұрын
so stupides zergs.... really need nerf or buff terrans is just boring and unbalanced
@vender68
@vender68 4 жыл бұрын
Frustrating to watch just look how fast those zergs
@wen-huanglin2828
@wen-huanglin2828 5 жыл бұрын
no widow mines?
@matthewbaumann630
@matthewbaumann630 4 жыл бұрын
He got the GG!!!!!
@WeiqiSub
@WeiqiSub 4 жыл бұрын
Maps too big yea
@splashbeats_
@splashbeats_ 5 жыл бұрын
Long Live HK!
@babochee
@babochee 5 жыл бұрын
There needs to be a marine/marauder range upgrade in the Ghost Academy....
@Kalenz1234
@Kalenz1234 4 жыл бұрын
Just reduce baneling splash dmg to have 33% dmg and 66% dmg zones instead of just 100% for the entire 2.2 radius. Banelings are basically mininukes vs light units.
@LuiCduardo
@LuiCduardo 5 жыл бұрын
and he even didn't used investors omg!
@ThomaxVision
@ThomaxVision 5 жыл бұрын
infestors is not the problem. Problem is low cost unit liker zerklings, dealing more damage than unit that cost 2x more.. Its totally broken. Just an example. Hatchery 300 crystalls. vs 400 for the other, yet zerg has dobble the damage, higher range with hydra and baneling bust does more damage than any other AoE units in the game.
@Tchasa
@Tchasa 5 жыл бұрын
@@ThomaxVision a hatchery costs 300 minerals and a drone. So 350 minerals
@ThomaxVision
@ThomaxVision 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tchasa true but still its 50 less than normal "town halls" :P
@Tchasa
@Tchasa 5 жыл бұрын
@@ThomaxVision that's true. The design of Zerg was always to be ahead on bases and drones because of the open mineral lines, buildings costing drones and larvae as a additional resource limiting drones and units. So a lower cost Hatchery makes sense in that regard. But Zerg is capable of playing on low economy right now which was never intended
@Redhitcz
@Redhitcz 4 жыл бұрын
Zerg is so OP
@onetwo-gt2tr
@onetwo-gt2tr 5 жыл бұрын
maru looks so tired
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