Marvel Champions TIER LIST - All Heroes Rated by 9 Categories!

[@VillainTheory]

A few small corrections I noticed after finishing! Both SP//dr and Ironheart should have lower reliability. I should have mentioned that Cyclops' ability to search for the perfect card (Phoenix, alter-ego ability and Tactical Brilliance) adds to his amazing reliability. I should have talked about Clarity of Purpose being the card that truly pushes Spider-Ham up into the same tier as the hero above him. Also, when I said Spectrum draws a card when she changes form, I meant from Speed of Light. Thanks guys!

[@styfen]

Thanks for adding this clarification, quick tip from one content creator to another. You should pin your correction comments like this so they're always at the top of comments for people who notice the missing elements from the video. Keep it up!

[@Rathamak]

10 year old me would never understand if I told him I'd voluntarily watch hour long PowerPoint presentations for fun, but this was definitely very enjoyable!

[@VillainTheory]

Sounds like 10 year old you missed out on some incredible life-changing presentations! 😜 Ahem! Thanks. I take this as a big compliment!

[@GetUpandGame]

Absolutely phenomenal. I’m so glad you’ve decided to share your gift of understanding the game with the community 😊 And you have a very engaging and enjoyable way of presenting it! Greatly looking forward to whatever’s next!

[@VillainTheory]

Thanks and more thanks! I only hope to be able to showcase my own decks at least 30% as well as you have showcased them!

[@GetUpandGame]

@@VillainTheory haha no worries there. So can we expect some gameplay soon then??

[@VillainTheory]

Soon™ ...I actually recorded a practice game the other day! The recording went well, but playing two-handed while talking it through on camera for the first time was a grave mistake.

[@GetUpandGame]

@@VillainTheory it’s a lot harder than people realize for sure

[@D20Woodworking]

Yoooooo let’s goooooooo!!! So exited to see you made a channel!!!

[@D20Woodworking]

I just saw you ranked Valkyrie at the bottom. I take back all my kind words from here till forever. Haha.

[@VillainTheory]

Thanks haha! I'm excited to make more videos! Just need Descry to make a response to one and then I know I've made it

[@VillainTheory]

Ranking her there is just a mind game to inspire you to play her more and prove to everyone she's the undisputed GOAT of not only Marvel Champions but all LCGs!

[@D20Woodworking]

@@VillainTheory ...... ok that's fair enough then haha

[@stevekingswell9143]

Great explanations and cool tier list. The only thing that raised an eyebrow for me was your consistency of stars. Ironheart had more stars than Spider Woman, but was lower ranked.

[@VillainTheory]

Thanks! Regarding stars, something I should have said is that I don't regard all categories as equal and not every factor is represented within them anyway. For example, with Ironheart vs. Spider-Woman, a lot of Spider-Woman's power comes from the amazing multi-aspect combos she can pull off.

[@vincentlepine]

Wow, best hero-tier list i've seen. Really like the way of presenting your tier-list. Clear and simple ! Good job.

[@VillainTheory]

Thanks! Means a lot, that's high praise!

[@JohnnyBravo239]

I love your videos. So much great information. This video in particular made me give Storm, Spectrum, and Vision another shot now that I have all the cards in the game and they are much better this time around.

[@VillainTheory]

That's fantastic to hear!

[@johnmcgrawrules]

I really liked the colorized stars you used for Ms Marvel to show how her strengths change based on aspect. Many of these heroes change power-level significantly based on aspect. Spider-ham is low A or high B tier to me outside of the insane S-tier Leadership + Clarity of Purpose builds.

[@VillainTheory]

Thanks! I thought about using them on other heroes but it would be impossible to represent all the aspects on everyone. But I felt it was important for Ms Marvel. To me, Spider-Ham is still S tier in the other aspects but he isn't then "S+" near Strange's level.

[@WinningHandPodcast]

Great video! Can’t wait to see more, and I’m glad you’ve decided to branch out and start making videos!

[@VillainTheory]

Cheers! Hopefully they're fun and thanks for the support!

[@tedduby2346]

After seeing you with Nelson a couple of weeks ago, I was thinking "Villain Theory should start a KZbin channel." Glad you are taking the plunge! Good job!

[@VillainTheory]

Ha! Seems we shared that thought! Thank you!

[@supremephoen1x]

Amazing video W new content creator

[@VillainTheory]

Haha thank you!

[@scydrex7828]

Wonderfully analyzed rankings. Thank you for taking the time to put this together! Looking forward to more content from you.

[@VillainTheory]

Thanks! This one took a lot effort - won't be doing another full tier list again in a hurry!

[@sedlak87]

thank you. I enjoyed 😊

[@nocturnalduck21]

So happy you are doing a mc channel. I always look forward to your decks on cbd Very excited for your take on the next evo builds

[@VillainTheory]

Hey! Thanks and hope I can provide some good decks! Got two up so far :) Domino Justice (Solo): marvelcdb.com/decklist/view/31069/global-ballistics-solo-expert-deck-1.0 Cable Justice (1-2 Player) marvelcdb.com/decklist/view/31112/the-ends-justify-the-means-1-2-player-expert-deck-1.0 Videos to come soon? Fingers crossed!

[@Velomirny]

This is solid and well done! Keep it up!

[@VillainTheory]

Thanks! I'll do my best!

[@bryantstewart8280]

First video of yours I’ve watched. Best content since Tonee Tales.

[@VillainTheory]

Thanks!! Appreciate it.

[@danielcraig6615]

I love this assessment!!! And when you said Vision is good but boring made me laugh bc that’s how I feel. Plus putting some respect on Rocket was awesome. I feel people under rate him.

[@VillainTheory]

Haha! Yeah, caught some flak for saying that about Vision but someone has to speak the truth!

[@Living4Games]

Amazing video! I look forward to seeing how you analyze the villains.

[@VillainTheory]

Ahhh I hadn't even thought about analyzing the villains on a video - but how cool would that be if I could find categories like this to rank them in comparison? Love it. Need to find more time! Thank you!

[@Brachiosaurus7]

It’s great to see your thorough breakdown. I enjoy the tierlist throwdowns, but they are sometimes one dimensional (based on liking them, power level, etc). I enjoyed Toni’s videos a lot because of this kind of analysis.

[@VillainTheory]

Nice, I hope to provide more like this!

[@realgundamsonly]

one of the best tier lists I have seen!

[@VillainTheory]

That is a huge compliment, thank you!

[@onsentapedequijesuis8231]

Really really awesome analysis ! Spectrum❤

[@VillainTheory]

Thanks! And glad to see another Spectrum fan!

[@spinnerrogers]

This absolutely the content I’ve been waiting for ever since Tonee Tales stopped posting. Such a complete presentation, loved it!! For me it was kind of vindicating, as I share very similar opinions (power-wise) of Storm, Vision, and Iron Man. Though unlike you I don’t think Vision’s boring

[@VillainTheory]

Thanks so much! And I'm so sorry about Vision! Regardless of what I think, I'm glad he has fans - and I am excited to return to him with Taunt.

[@Anwar-AT]

We need an updated version of this 🙏🏽 As well as another one solely for enjoyment factor ranking.

[@jasco.gaming]

Yooooooo! I'm so happy to see this! It's so incredibly well done and it's exactly what I've been looking for for some time now! Thank you for this.😊 Edit: I couldn't agree more about my boy Iron Man! So glad someone is giving his dues. Edit: The way i look at Venom is he's an "Army of One" type of character so that you say he has an answer for everything is absolutely correct to me.

[@VillainTheory]

I'm so glad to hear that! And yeah, Iron Man is so good!

[@user-mn6nr8yn5c]

It's beneficial to watch again. I'm also looking forward to the 2024 version of the new tier.

[@DadsGamingDK]

Awesome work. You really understand the game. It is very clear to me now that FFG need new playtesters. They should use your rating system when playtesting heroes.

[@VillainTheory]

Thanks! And I actually wonder if they go by any kind of system or just the feel of each hero?

[@DadsGamingDK]

@@VillainTheory We can only wonder how they released Dr. Strange and Hulk almost the same time and thought "both seem fine" 😄

[@samsgamecave497]

This is amazing content! 🤩

[@VillainTheory]

Oh thanks! I've enjoyed your gameplay vids!

[@samsgamecave497]

@@VillainTheory glad you liked it! Still getting more experienced on the game but it definitely became my favorite LCG 🤩. I started with LOTR years and years ago.

[@VillainTheory]

Nice! I've only played a little LOTR but it seems fun too if a LOT more difficult than Marvel.

[@jace76ful]

This is pretty much exactly what I would pick! Wonderful list! I would move black panther in A. Golden City is ridiculous, paired with the mansion. I flip him almost every turn to take advantage until he is all out go mode. The card draw is insane and his economy is nuts. I do understand his pieces make him a bit of a wild card, but it's so potent when all is out.

[@wkylegreen]

Great video! Glad to see you making content here. This was really interesting and I like how you approached it. I often wonder on hero rankings how much aspect cards impact that. For example, how you said that Clarity of Purpose boosts Ham significantly. I tend to build my decks very thematically. So even though Prof X is always great, he is rarely with my Avengers. I know that limits the power of the decks though.

[@VillainTheory]

That's a really interesting topic and the answer varies with the hero. Some heroes are incredibly strong no matter what aspect cards you add, others live or die by their deck. I could and might do a video on that if I get time! But two that spring to mind are Venom, who is inevitably strong, and Nova who is very dependent on his deck.

[@wkylegreen]

@@VillainTheory awesome, yeah I would love to hear your thoughts on that!

[@webwarriorfanatic]

I know you said in the disclaimer that you like all the heroes, but I'm really biased towards Peter Parker Spider-Man and wanted to give an argument for why I think he should be bumped up! I think Peter's hero cards/abilities are all very simple and easy for beginners, but super balanced (he has resource generation in web shooters, healing in aunt may, defense in backflip, and encounter card interrupts in enhanced spider-sense). I agree with you that his damage/thwarting cards are lacking, but I feel like those weaknesses are the most easy to fix by using allies and playing in the justice aspect compared to like Miles Morales who has a weakness that can't be easily fixed (being unable to negate encounter cards and defend from enemies that aren't stunned). Overall I agree with your Miles ranking since his ability to stunlock and economy are so good that he beats a lot of villains easier than Peter, but I think Peter should be bumped up since this is a ranking primarily for expert mode and I think Peter is stronger against the toughest villains like Ronan and probably villains like Thanos/Magneto/Venom Goblin since they have steady/stalwart. I don't know forsure since I haven't played against those villains yet but I definitely have an easier time against Ronan expert with Peter and feel like he's always underrated in tier lists! I feel that Peter Parker Spider-Man can beat all of the strongest villains in the game consistently easier than most of the heroes ranked above him. Btw this was an awesome video and very informative about all the different heroes! I really only play Peter and Miles so it was really cool to analyze every hero and see what they're good at.

[@VillainTheory]

Thanks for the in-depth reply! I do like Peter against Ronan - Peter does tend to excel against any villains with lots of activations due to his amazing defenses and the card draw he gets every time they attack. But I do think Miles generally does very well against Ronan too, Web-Warriors and the Peter Parker ally are just so unbelievably strong. One of the strongest combos in the game for sure.

[@webwarriorfanatic]

@@VillainTheory Web-Warriors are definitely awesome. Miles does more damage and has way better tempo, but it's just when I get an unlucky hand with no stun/confuse it's usually game over against Ronan if he's being a fanatic with fanaticism 😂but I can definitely see him being ranked as one of the best

[@ghostwithknife416]

Cool to see you got a channel! Your decks are super hype, so its great to meet the mind behind the madness. On a personal note, when arevwe getting a Kuriboh deck?

[@VillainTheory]

Thanks! One thing though... What's a Kuriboh deck?

[@jonathanjoyce2376]

Wow. So incredibly in depth without having to run through every characters cards. I need to get Strange back to the table!

[@VillainTheory]

He's strangely strong!

[@mjdblue7]

This is a great ranking! Hard to disagree. Excited to see more of your videos, will you be doing a villain ranking too? (I hope, I hope )👀

[@VillainTheory]

That's the plan! Someone else suggested it too and it's a great idea. Just need to make time for it.

[@mjdblue7]

@@VillainTheory Looking forward to it! Curious where Domino and Cable would fall on this list. Also curious of your actual favorite / most played list vs statistically tiered!

[@andoru]

Iron Man is so quick and easy to set up now, there are so many Tech upgrades in Protection and Basic. Spend a few turns flipping to/from AE and after that I find I'm up to hand size of 7 by turn 3.

[@VillainTheory]

Agreed, Protection has plenty of tech for it. If I wasn't factoring in those scenarios with low threat threshold main schemes which only have one stage, he'd definitely be higher even in solo.

[@saintmatthew956]

I think some of these change in solo vs. multiplayer. For example, Hulk has a soft spot in my heart, and is VASTLY better in multiplayer. On a completely other topic, I picked up NeXt Evolution yesterday, and I can't wait for you to give us a Domino deck that blows my mind.

[@VillainTheory]

Nice! Domino is so good. Really excited for all her potential.

[@onsentapedequijesuis8231]

Thanks ! You actually helped me with Spectrum ;) I always tried with all my deck to play with her high stats, but as you said. Their energy form are too unpredictable to build around this. I never actually tried to just see this as a bonus. I think I'll still put 2-3 "Ready to Rumble", it works too good on her but I think you're right about her and better playing with ally or event but not stats. My favorite deck with her is an Leadership Aerial deck. Otherwise, don't you think we have seen only the tip of the iceberg about Rogue potential (like Adam Warlock) ?

[@VillainTheory]

Glad to have helped! And Ready to Rumble is still good for Spectrum, definitely. Also yes - Rogue is great and there's so much untapped potential! Especially with NeXt Evolution having just arrived!

[@blackdaz3]

One of the best tier list presentations out there. Well done. Just a little pointer: i would work on sound quality though

[@VillainTheory]

Thanks! And I'm aware and working on it! Glad you like the presentation and I'll likely continue with that style.

[@blackdaz3]

@@VillainTheory just a minor constructive suggestion, that's all. can't wait to bing through the whole channel . I like your logic approach and top notch graphic editing

[@psovitzky]

Great video! This was an auto play as this guy IS the Tonee tales of a new generation! Ha!

[@thetiniestamy]

Couldn’t agree more!

[@VillainTheory]

Ahhh, I think I still have some way to go - but thanks!! 😄

[@DescryGamingMC]

Villain tales 😂

[@WinningHandPodcast]

Although I will say, you did my man Vision pretty dirty. BORING!?! He may not be flashy, but his versatility and the puzzle of his form swapping make him fun. Add in a way to recur Androids, an excellent ally, access to Reboot, and Phase Disruption really can come in clutch!

[@VillainTheory]

Hey, I'm glad he has a fan! And I do enjoy him when I play him -- just not as much the vast majority of other heroes...

[@Anondod]

Great list! I don't find anything I strongly disagree with, and where I do I think it's all down to personal preference and amount of experience with the various characters.

[@VillainTheory]

Thank you!

[@stephenball2108]

I agree with you so much that I feel like early on Rogue had a lot of people saying she wasn't good because their janky Sorcerer Supreme decks weren't consistent. Her kit is so strong, I kind of think of her as baby Venom (which isn't an insult, I also think Venom is a top 5 hero), where she kind of has access to all the best things. My only wish is that she had even a minor alter ego ability. With her access to confuse and how good Mutant Education can be to recycle her powerful cards, even the most minor ability would be a major boon. I also appreciate you rating Spectrum so much higher than most people I see. I feel like she's got so much power, and you just have to go with the flow with what she offers you. My favorite runner in Android Netrunner was MaxX, who some people didn't like because she felt a little too random for them (at the beginning of each turn you would mill 2 of your cards to draw a card). My take on MaxX was that she was so inherently powerful that you just had to go with the flow of what you're given and it'll be great. I think a lot of people get frustrated when they can't do what they want with her at all times, but that feels like the balance. I feel like if you printed on her "Once per turn you can spend 1 or 2 resources to change energy form" she gets broken.

[@VillainTheory]

Hey Stephen, thanks for the in-depth reply! Love this. When it comes to Rogue, I still think there's a good bit of negativity toward her - but I'm glad to hear she has another fan. Agreed on the alter-ego ability, though. I wish there was no hero without one in all honesty. Never played anything Netrunner but that sounds really interesting. I wonder if they could translate that to Marvel Champions? I think that kind of idea has legs.

[@stephenball2108]

@@VillainTheory Yeah, even if her alter ego just said like, “when you change to this form heal 1 damage” it would feel so much better. I don’t know if the Netrunner thing would translate. I don’t know if we’ll get another self milling hero anytime soon now that Domino is out, and I already think Domino will cause headaches for design, people are already finding tons of ways to exploit her abilities. I didn’t mention, but my favorite hero to play is Star-Lord, I think he’s a blast and both powerful and exciting. I somewhat agree with you saying you maybe shouldn’t do his ability every turn, to pick your spots more. My thought is when you use his ability, you’d better be confident that what you’re doing is at least equally powerful to what the enemy will do. I also learned that it’s a trap to deck build focused on his ability. Play a “normal” deck and use his ability to have better turns sometimes. Like, being able to play 2 3 cost cards in a turn is immensely powerful. And yes, prioritize Element Gun, it’s a super strong card that just keeps getting better now that tough is handed out like candy.

[@stephenball2108]

@@VillainTheory Also, I published my first deck, a Domino protection list that has been shredding scenarios. I’d be curious to see what you think of it, it’s published on CDB as InDOMINOble.

[@VillainTheory]

@@stephenball2108 Nice! Star-Lord is incredible. And that Domino deck also looks awesome! I like the name. I have mixed thoughts on Perfect Defense with her, Unflappable is so good but if you aren't taking damage then you can't reliably use What Doesn't Kill Me or so I would have thought. But honestly, that deck has a great balance of cards - using Perseverance with Lucky and Good for Unflappable is inspired. I'm sure it does great!

[@stephenball2108]

@@VillainTheory It’s easy enough to let one attack go undefended, and also flipping down with Weapon X and using it two turns in a row before flipping back up instantly does the damage needed to use What Doesn’t Kill Me!

[@heroicskeleton1566]

Great list, glad to see Storm so high. I agree she is super strong, particularly in multiplayer. I'm surprised to see Cyclops near the top. When i played him, he just didn't do much. I made my own version of the TMMX deck. I guess either my deck sucks or i was unlucky lol. I do need to try him some more though

[@VillainTheory]

Thanks! And yeah, love Storm! And I do think Cyclops is really good - what card count are you going for? At 50 cards I'm running 3x Uncanny X-Men, just to get it in play sooner. At 40, I run two copies instead. The whole deck is really about getting that card in play and then playing and using as many X-Men allies as you can. TMMX is great but not necessary, it might be easier to start without it and see how you go.

[@heroicskeleton1566]

@VillainTheory I had 50 cards, only 1 uncanny. That may be one of the problems. Also I only had 15 x men, which might be too low to reliably trigger tmmx. I did have x men instructions in there to refill the deck though.

[@heroicskeleton1566]

@VillainTheory and yeah I think I'll do that. I'll try without tmmx, maybe go for a smaller deck size and just focus on a more reasonable number of x men with stuff like TBE, uncanny, and cerebro

[@fandabidozi3191]

Great video! Where would you guess Deadpool would be placed? And, what Hero would you like to see in the game and why is it Multiple Man?

[@VillainTheory]

Thanks! And Deadpool is a weird one. I think he will hit the upper half of heroes, but beyond that I find him hard to place. I think he'll win very hard but, especially in solo play, he'll also just sometimes lose out of nowhere. I don't know if you like written content, but if you search reddit for "Deadpool deep dive", you'll see an article I wrote where I do a thorough analysis!

[@fandabidozi3191]

@@VillainTheory Awesome! Ty, I’ll look that up. I’m on Reddit way more than I should be. 😅

[@JYang-dz6ji]

Great video!

[@VillainTheory]

Thanks!

[@jonathanpickles2946]

Now you need to do it again including fun factor. Then you could point out that the crank the handle machines that set up loads of upgrades (SP//dr, Iron X etc) are nowhere near as fun as the whacky ones - can I play 6 Hex Bolts in one turn. It's not random if you play so many that you cover every outcome. Nebula is like that too - I think her cards are incredibly efficient, and that lets you overcome the fact that they may not be quite what you wanted. Great list ie I broadly agree though I have gaps in my knowledge (Vision is so boring that I have not even played him yet). Poor Valkyrie; I would quibble that she is low readiness. She just needs a weapon & the fact that she only has Dragonfang(sic?) in her base kit makes her really, really unreliable but not unready. You need an anti-purple star for just how inconsistent she is and maybe for Hulk thwarting etc :) That makes me think of another factor "versatility"maybe or how big the difference is between their best deck and their worst. IE you really have to build for Iron Man or Hawkeye or Valkyrie while the Caps play well regardless for different reasons - Cap A has strong cards in his kit while Cap M has the economy and draw to power through. I think that also means M has a higher ceiling than A as she benefits Incrementally more from each new powerful aspect card.

[@VillainTheory]

So I was planning to do a video on fun - but it wasn't going to include all the stats here. Maybe it should include them. I think it would be really interesting to see if there's a correlation between what I enjoy and how I've rated the stats. You've already gathered that the "crank the handle" heroes aren't my favourite (love that phrase, by the way) but I wonder if there will be other common factors? You are probably right that I could give Valkyrie another star for readiness, there's a couple of stars I'd tweak in hindsight and surely will update in the future. Good point. I also like the idea of using the anti-star more widely. I'll think on it! Love the idea of measuring how much impact the deck-building has on any given hero. I don't think I'd introduce that as another category as such but it does sound like a really interesting idea for a video.

[@danicras8931]

Greaaaaat Video❤❤❤

[@VillainTheory]

Thanks!

[@leondewit9816]

Hello @villainTheory, Thank you very much for making this comprehensive list. I can relate very well to the order of heroes. I'm curious if you would like to make a new video with the newest heroes. Greeting Léon

[@VillainTheory]

Hi, I am glad you like the video! And yes, I do plan to make an updated one with all the new heroes!

[@Gakoth]

I'm happy to see Spectrum on A tier. She's an unpopular hero. Yesterday I played with her on Leadership (Aerial Team) and I won without troubles.

[@VillainTheory]

Spectrum is great! Underrated

[@metascrub285]

Honestly seeing scarlet witch in leadership is actually cracked. Literally the third strongest hero i have seen only behind the pig and the superior mystic strange. Haven't seen alot of magik but mystic support is honestly cracked, especially summoning spell.

[@VillainTheory]

I've moved her up since I made this on my own personal list, but yeah she's crazy good

[@methos-onfive]

You should've given Iron Man an extra 2 green stars for his Readiness in Protection. Repurpose makes this deck go wild.

[@seneca291]

Besides all the deserved compliments I'd recommend you to invest in a better mic :)

[@VillainTheory]

I was hoping I could improve the quality with some settings tweaks but, while I think my next video has better sound, I think you're right.

[@bendavy1816]

Great video. Out of interest, you have captain marvel really high but I couldn’t find a captain marvel deck you have published. If I could be so bold, what does a 2023 villain theory captain marvel deck look like?

[@VillainTheory]

I don't have an exact list to hand but I think Clarity of Purpose, Agent 13 and the new expensive X-Men allies are all cards that have helped boost her. Clarity of Purpose helps both enable and pay for her hero ability, Agent 13 combos with Alpha Flight Station for massive alter-ego card draw, and the new X-Men allies are super good but some are expensive and she plays them with ease. If I had to choose a deck, though, right now I think I'd build the classic Avengers type deck with Clarity of Purpose and Meditation sprinkled in.

[@bendavy1816]

@@VillainTheory thank you :-)

[@bobmcbobg1696]

Explaining the extra purple star with Spider-Man on the screen and not giving it to him for survivability lol. Yes he’s my favorite hero. This is a great way to “rank” the heroes without it being a countdown of from worst to best because every hero is good on their own way.

[@VillainTheory]

Haha! It was borderline whether he got a bonus star for Survivability but perhaps he should have! He might well get one if/when I revise this list. 3 DEF, 2x Backflip, 2x Webbed Up, and Aunt May is hard to argue with.

[@bobmcbobg1696]

@@VillainTheory I play Spider-Man constantly. Whenever new villains come out, I play them with Spider-Man. I’ve only ever lost to Zola believe it or not lol. Survivability is definitely his #1 strength. That’s before putting him in protection. Still a great list. Looking forward to your villain ranking :)

[@Velomirny]

I would like to add a new video suggestion! One of the things I'm most excited for when looking up heroes and decks are incredible synergies like Ammunition Bunker and Agent 13. Combos that make C tiers jump to B. I'd love either a long video on a couple of those, or a bunch of shorter one going over those "Cards you *Should* run on each Hero".

[@VillainTheory]

Great idea! My partner has suggested something similar; she said maybe a video where I highlight unusual interactions between cards. I love the angle of doing that from the perspective of which cards make the biggest impact on each hero, though. Thanks! Now to find the time...!

[@lufelipe78]

Hi! Thank you so much for this video, it has helped me so much to understand this game, is it possible to rate the new heroes that have been released? Thanks!

[@VillainTheory]

Yes, absolutely! I have reviews for most of them on my channel where I rank them at the end. I can't remember every placement off the top of my head right now but suffice to say I put Iceman around Colossus's ranking, and basically every other hero has made it into the top 50%, and most in the top 15. Which is to say most of the top of the tier list is full of new characters but no one has yet toppled Doctor Strange or Spider-Ham in my eyes. I'll probably do a full new tier list in a 2-4 months time as well

[@DrMcFly28]

What do you think of the often-suggested fix that gives Hulk, She-hulk, Thor and Drax 5-card hands? How much would they move upwards?

[@cihs88]

Hi, I have been using your deck suggestions for some time. It is nice to see you here and getting your ideas abou the game. I have some ideas that you can do videos about. Which is the best platform to contact you and discuss?

[@VillainTheory]

Thanks! And hm, I'd say the comments on here but if not you can DM me on reddit perhaps?

[@zacharychan9511]

Hi VillainTheory, thanks for sharing this comprehensive video. I can only imagine how much time went into thinking about and creating all these for the community :) Have always been a big fan of your decks! But may I also ask: do you not feel that the newer villains that have stalwart/steady have greatly undermined the effectiveness of heroes who are reliant on status? This applies to many of the characters at the top of the list: Doctor Strange, Venom, Miles, Spider Woman, even Scarlet Witch etc. With status immunity, even Doctor Strange has a hard time preventing activations. Doctor Strange used to be my favourite hero but I feel his power dipped quite significantly as I took on Venom Goblin and Magneto. In contrast, the other heroes that do noy rely on statuses much (Spider Ham, Ironheart, Storm) feel much more consistent/reliable to me. What do you think? Or perhaps, are you also basing a lot of the evaluation on some of the easier villains that do not have Steady/Stalwart? I think that could be fair since they do form the majority of villains, it's just that the more difficult ones may be more helpful in differentiating between the top tiers?

[@VillainTheory]

Hi and thanks! Regarding stalwart/steady undermining the effectiveness of heroes who are "reliant" on status effects, I actually don't think so for the most part - at least for the higher tier characters. While it certainly hurts them a little, most of the characters with natural access to Stuns and Confuses are also the characters with access to Toughs - and Toughs are the perfect counter to steady/stalwart. Or, with Venom, potentially 4 DEF with your Pistols and tons of healing. You can also still stun and confuse minions which can be useful in some situations. When it comes to Steady, you are still going to be able to stun and confuse them too, even if it's not easy. And with the insane value Strange, Venom, and Miles etc already have, it can still be good to do so even if it's not what you're hoping for overall. I think it hurts characters like Hawkeye, Nebula and She-Hulk the most who only have a limited amount of stuns/confuse and have other major drawbacks. In short, the evaluations here were made with Steady/Stalwart as a factor. Not an overwhelming one, but a significant one that has only become more relevant with NeXt Evolution. Overall, I think it takes a lot more than status cards to get a hero into the top 15 and while some are weakened I think they all remain very strong.

[@jongahimer5338]

Unpopular opinion: The game is much more fun and interesting in multiplayer. My favorite Adam-Warlock deck revolves around high value allies and buffing/maintaining their HP via Med Team, Reinforced Suit, and discarding Protection Cards. She-Hulk, Giant Man, and Sentry as primary targets.

[@VillainTheory]

Agreed, I do prefer multiplayer (though solo play does have some interesting challenges)

[@runfree3392]

You and other KZbinrs should do I top 5 ranking of 3 man team setup ups

[@VillainTheory]

That sounds really fun!

[@sedlak87]

I like how Ironheart is building her suit “passively”/just by playing the game in comparison to IM who builds and then play the game.

[@VillainTheory]

Yeah! I can't remember how I described it here exactly but that's a fantastic way to explain it!

[@sedlak87]

@@VillainTheory wish they revisit old heroes and somehow redesign them, or do some twist on it

[@metascrub285]

Question on spider ham. If he takes any amount of damage he only gets 1 counter?

[@VillainTheory]

Correct! Doesn't matter if it's 1 damage or 10, he gets a single Toon Counter.

[@ShootingSunMedia]

Strange, I thought I made a comment a few weeks ago, but I don't see it. Maybe my tablet didn't post it. Anyway, thought I ask again anyway. :) Would you be willing to share your slides by any chance? I have been looking for a rating of the heroes based on difference categories that I could print into like a booklet / sheet. That way, I could look at each hero, and it would not only help me pick a hero based on my mood but also help me deckbuild them to cover their weakness as I predominantly play true solo. If you dont plan to make it avaialbe, I understand. I Just thought I ask as I'd love the thought of such a resource! Thanks either way and this was an awesome breakdown of each hero! Nice work! :D

[@VillainTheory]

I don't recall seeing it either, sorry! It must have been lost to the depths of cyberspace. So I love this idea. I don't know about making these exact slides available as some of my thoughts have already changed (though mostly remain the same), but this idea is definitely worth doing and I even think having it printed could help me as a quick reference! I could even do a video that puts the actual rankings aside and just looks at ratings purely with the intent to deck-build, with additional notes per hero. Thanks for this. I don't know when this will be but I'd really like to do it.

[@ShootingSunMedia]

@@VillainTheory no worries. I am just glad you are so active in replying. your suggest sounds amazing too 😄 right, I forgot the word was 'quick reference'. 😆 Honestly I am not too particular. I am happy with these slides. I'll just update them once your new video is out as I know things like this are dynamic. So do tell me if you make it available at some point, or if you rather message it to me directly 😊 Either way, thank you for the indepth analysis as I love exploring elements of the game in detail. I saw that your inspiration was to fill the niche that ToneeTales used to cover and I think it's great! 😁 Good work!

[@oxiris]

Would you mind sharing Tiermaker link/file?

[@VillainTheory]

Sure, I think it was this one: tiermaker.com/create/marvel-champions-hero-tiers-1065006

[@EvanSnowWolf]

Where do you place Cable and Domino in these rankings?

[@VillainTheory]

I was originally thinking A-tier for Domino and B-tier for Cable, but I suspect I'll change on at least one of those by the end of the X-Force wave.

[@metascrub285]

What do you think is the best aspect for each hero?

[@VillainTheory]

That is a huge question and will vary based on player count, etc, but I love it. I think this should probably be a video!

[@metascrub285]

@@VillainTheory honestly the biggest trouble I have with most hero's, finding which aspect to play them in.

[@VillainTheory]

@@metascrub285 Now that you've said that, I do see a lot of questions online about what aspect to play with what hero. I'll bump this up in priority!

[@leewoobok30]

Is it based on solo play or multi play?

[@VillainTheory]

It's kind of a hybrid of both! I think most heroes stay the same and point out those I think move significantly as I go. Iron Man, for example, I rate one tier down in solo and one tier up in multiplayer - so his placement is halfway between either.

[@seneca291]

When you say Standard2, do you mean standard2 + expert1?

[@VillainTheory]

Hm! Could you remind me where I say that? I don't think Standard 2 / Expert 1 is something I would have referenced here.

[@seneca291]

@@VillainTheory you didn't. I was just wondering, because I can't feel that much of a difficulty gap between s2 and expert, so I was just checking if I was missing something :)

[@VillainTheory]

Ahhh! I do actually think Standard II is harder than Expert. But Standard II + Expert is obviously harder. I think when most people say Standard II they just mean it on its own.

[@dawsonsmythe]

Shadowcat Ease of Play at 2??? She’s the most complex hero for me so far. You need an encyclopedic knowledge of the turn sequencing and player windows!

[@VillainTheory]

Haha! True. Powerful Punch in particular is crazy. Perhaps I should do a video for how difficult heroes are from a rules perspective?

[@dawsonsmythe]

@@VillainTheory or maybe it would be fun to try and find the most complicated sequence of events (i.e. number of cards/effects that can trigger off a single attack) that exists in Marvel Champions :p

[@danielb9170]

too many categories and some are redundant. card value can be easily incorporated on economy. reliability and readiness can be mixed together. it would be better if you can condense the categoties a little more so that this can be much bearable to watch

[@VillainTheory]

Hi Daniel. Thanks for the feedback and I hope you find my future videos more bearable.

[@metascrub285]

Now hot take. Venom is overrated. Imo should at best be in the lower parts of s tier or even a. I noticed he can do alot but what he does isn't that high when it comes to power scaling.

[@VillainTheory]

I actually agree again. I made this before the X-Force wave and new X-Men heroes, but even then I think I slightly overrated him. Once upon a time I rated him under Captain America but got talked in to moving him up. These days I think they're fairly close. His biggest strength (and arguably Cap's), being so versatile, is no longer such an advantage over the competition now that the deckbuilding card pool is so incredibly strong. Everyone in every tuned deck is very versatile. Also his status cards became less powerful with the onslaught of Steady and Stalwart villains. Worst of all perhaps is Standard 3 - his nemesis set is now way more common and it's brutal. Add onto that 10+ new very powerful characters and he's taken a significant hit.

[@LosdominiosdeKang]

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