Marvel's Avengers is the Worst Thing to Happen to Games in 2020: RIP DEUS EX

/ charlatanwonder Pledge to my Patreon to help me afford post-Dewgarita therapy.
So after the heartbreaking news a few years ago that Deus Ex was "on Hold" so that Eidos Montreal could make a video game about Marvel's Avengers, it's finally here and WHY DID YOU DO THIS TO US!?!?!
Avengers gameplay is terrible: There isn't an original idea anywhere in this game and it does whatever mechanics it cribbed from other games worse. The "story" that everyone loved so much yet very few actually explained what they liked about it. I smell pity points. Marvel's Avengers' story is predictable, overly safe, and none of the Avengers are particularly likeable. Abu is a cool dude though.
All this games as a service garbage in light of how Deus Ex is all but cancelled has got me feeling so low that I went and made the Cursed Dewgartia Code Red to approximate the pain I felt in Drink form. Do not attempt to recreate it: No one else should have to feel that much pain.
TIMESTAMPS CUZ IT'S A BIGGUN:
00:00 Intro
04:59 The Gameplay is terrible and entirely unoriginal
24:53 The Story
30:33 Char makes and drinks a Dew-Garl-rita to try and dull the pain
35:31 The Jank
40:18 The Multiplayers no one is bothering with
43:35 Deus Ex was cancelled for this
48:09 Closing thoughts - We're better than this
55:29 Cat video

[@toatakanuva4846]

Square Enix: “Just give me a chance!” Everyone: “What about Deus-Ex, did you give him a chance?!”

[@connoro462]

Boss battle dialogue

[@jcdentongaming1304]

What a shame

[@adri-xj6sw]

It was a good game series... What a rotten way to die

[@OGSumo]

Why are you locked in the bathroom?

[@i-dislike-handles]

@@OGSumo You talking to me?

[@i-dislike-handles]

@@electricfishfan7159 Okay, where?

[@i-dislike-handles]

@@electricfishfan7159 maybe you should join Majestic 12... In a body bag.

[@AlexDenton0451]

“This Game might be for you if you unironically say POG in normal conversation” Sent that to my friends, they all felt personally attacked

[@adamofblastworks1517]

They should.

[@Mrlaneck]

You need new friends

[@adamofblastworks1517]

@@kaistzar2831 impossible

[@aryyancarman705]

@@kaistzar2831 smh lol

[@adamofblastworks1517]

@@kaistzar2831 :O

[@williewillikers9631]

Squinix: "we canceled deus ex for this!" Me: "We didnt ask for this."

[@themanwiththebabyhands4650]

What a rotten way to die

[@pogicus89]

You can’t convince me that this game wasn’t a cry for help by the former Deus Ex devs.

[@Dr.Oofers]

@@themanwiththebabyhands4650 “Oh my god JC a bomb!”

[@aikou2886]

What a shame.

[@rahmatumar1156]

No actually people had been asking triple A Avenger game for quite a while especially after Injustice came out. It's just the end result wasn't what everyone expected

[@ape5490]

I'm so proud that no-one cares about this insulting game.

[@thebigal123]

Stopped caring after Miles Spiderman came out

[@christianheadley556]

Didn't even know it existed

[@shawklan27]

@@christianheadley556 i forgot about it

[@WTFisTingispingis]

@@thebigal123 Miles Spiderman is a much better buy, probably.

[@WTFisTingispingis]

@@thebigal123 Miles Spiderman is a much better buy, probably.

[@bludtinge]

The fact that Adam Jensen’s trilogy died for this... hurts to this day.

[@telophasemusic]

He didn't ask for this... :(

[@teur7078]

Mankind divided was bad! Human revolution was good!

[@bludtinge]

@@teur7078 it wasn’t bad, just not as good as Human Revolution

[@TheChodex]

@@teur7078 Mankind divided was far from bad, it was actually amazing, but Human Revolution was just better.

[@Crimzan4]

It's just how the story ended what I don't like about MD... Graphics wise, gameplay wise and such I found it to be at least on-par with HR. Especially the Prison dlc was awesome and I love the music in MD!

[@atomicforgery9266]

I heard that there is already a better version of this game, it's called Ultimate Alliance.

[@sdfxcvblank5756]

yea ultimate alliance was the bees knees of of hero games, yea its not aged like fine wine, but you know what, i love finding the c-listers that i never heard of. it was cool to play as iorn man but WHOA this guy with a flaming skull for a head is soooooooo cool!!!! there was magic in it, i hated playing as some of them. but the ones i loved were cool, there was even bounus for having teams, like the avengers line up, the fantastic four, street level heros, there was passion in it, it was back when the only good movies were spidermans and OMG I CAN PLAY AS SPIDERMAN?!?!!?

[@WTFisTingispingis]

I'm pretty sure Ultimate Alliance 3 is way better than it.

[@MrNickPresley]

@@WTFisTingispingis Is it? Haven't played past UA2 so far, and haven't heard anything about 3.

[@oreox1000]

@@MrNickPresley what potentially hurt it is that it is Switch exclusive. I played it for a couple hours and enjoyed my time with it.

[@bossross8270]

@@WTFisTingispingis Nobody but a small audience would know that because its a Switch exclusive. Fucking Nintendo.

[@Wedge_Khan]

You know what makes this even worse. Inside sources are saying that Crystal Dynamics was developing a single player avengers game with story and gameplay first. But when the board of directors at Square Enix say it they demanded that it was scraped and in order to still make release with the new game they canceled other games and pulled all their studios to work on this dumpster fire.

[@johnraymond1861]

It feels like it was meant to be a single player game that they were forced to make a multiplayer!

[@happymartin6778]

This game is for you basically if you are a "CONSOOMER".

[@youdoyouidome7452]

Conzoomer

[@shamusson]

Woke consoomerism be like

[@SakurakoLover]

or MCU stan

[@leviticusprime4904]

@@SakurakoLover what’s the difference

[@Goofy_Goobert]

At least maybe the avengers took the hit of being micro transaction stuffed live service garbage and not Deus Ex. Like could you imagine if they dragged Deus Ex's name and legacy through mud and doo doo by turning it into something like the avengers?

[@kyllme1500]

We got 2 good Deus Ex games out of them. I guess it could be worse.

[@CeroAshura]

@@kyllme1500 the word you're looking for is despite. We got 2 good Deus ex games despite of them.

[@martinszymanski2607]

@@CeroAshura i mean.. they made those games, so not really. they ain't activision

[@MatthewCobalt]

@@martinszymanski2607 That is a low bar to clear, and it's depresses me that *THAT* is a low bar to begin with.

[@SoFarSoGoodSoWhat14]

Deus Ex probably won't come back now cause Mankind Divided underperformed by their standards :(

[@purpleblah2]

So what you're saying is... the sound Marvel's Avengers makes rattling its cage will serve as a lesson to the rest?

[@mrsnippysnoopa8300]

OH YES, most certainly.

[@MasterFrag91]

Hmm... I hope you're not underestimating the problem. Square Enix may not go as quietly as you think.

[@Sezwer]

@@MasterFrag91 A bunch of pretentious old men playing at making games. But the gamers left them behind long ago!

[@williamtimonen6814]

They wont learn... THEY NEVER LEARN.

[@SoFarSoGoodSoWhat14]

>implying the game industry learns from its mistakes

[@caderomine8331]

I love the fact that Charl compliments Thor's playstyle but even that is just a rip-off of Kratos from God of War 2018. They even hired the combat designer from God of War to work on the Avengers game.

[@CharlatanWonder]

lol I never played GoW2018 since I don't own a PlayStation. Makes sense I guess

[@insertname717]

@@CharlatanWonder you definitely should play it its a great game

[@sleepythemis]

@@insertname717 He just said he doesn't own a Playstation, he gonna buy one for one game?

[@homieknightskerk3800]

​@@sleepythemis Presumably not. There are many other great exclusive games out on Playstation (or out in the future). GoW Ragnarok, Spiderman Miles Morales, Demons Souls, Horizon Forbidden West, Ghosts of Tsushima, Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart, etc

[@bossross8270]

@@homieknightskerk3800 Half of those games aren't even out yet. Get fucked.

[@juanchooh9965]

RIP Adam Jensen Trilogy " He didnt ask for this"

[@1300l]

Yea, RIP

[@ohamatchhams]

@@1300l I get that reference lol

[@Pennywise12528]

Remember when Ultimate Alliance was theoretically about the Ultimates universe, but they crammed in all the fun mainline universe stuff because "Why not", to the point there was a trivia game where you could earn extra skillpoints by remembering weird tidbits characters mentioned like Thor turning into a frog?

[@Batkenpre]

I remember that

[@tonson5214]

MUA is still to this day my favorite game

[@unregisteredassaultbutterk1185]

When I finally got into Mankind Divided I loved it, made me interested in the series and was looking forward to the next game. Then this happens. Capeshit robbed me

[@ieatvirgins]

I beat MD a couple weeks ago and I haven't been that upset at a game's ending since... well I skipped Ass Effect 3, so maybe ever.

[@ieatvirgins]

@Big Scoot Yeah, I uninstalled the game as soon as the credits finished rolling. I was pissed off that they had the gall to have a post-credit scene and then MORE FUCKING CREDITS after that.

[@pnastysavage5510]

@@ieatvirgins it turned me off ! It was just starting to pick up and then.......credits

[@zaikolebolsh5724]

Basically, "HEY YOU! Yes you! You master craftsman of fine jewelry, I need you to make me a toilet"

[@TheChodex]

So true!

[@alastor8091]

>Squenix >fine craftsmanship Pick one and only one.

[@NA-vz9ko]

Not even like a golden toilet, one made of cheap plastic that you have to flush three times for it to work.

[@zaikolebolsh5724]

@@alastor8091 the idea was the comparison between jewerly (the story of the deus ex HR and MD, which i liked) and toilet ( whatever the fuck this marvel shit was) but when you need to explain a joke you may aswell don't tell it at all

[@alastor8091]

@@zaikolebolsh5724 The story in HR and MD was not even CLOSE to being that good. It was alright, but the main quest wasn't "fine jewelry". The world building, some of the side quests, the characters, sure, but the main story was b tier at best. Nobody's making videos discussing the themes, relevancy, intricacy, and quality of either of those games like they are about Metal Gear.

[@arthurcarneirolopes6383]

I get pissed of because I have friends that are defending this game and saying that it will get better with DLCs (they even spent money buying skins), and when I say it sucks they start to attack every game I like because they have no better argument.

[@slimebuck]

sounds like they are not "friends" but posers. I had "friends" that would strangely defend crap games... I realized what they where doing was trolling people into buying garbage games. They kept doing it to people, convincing them to buy a game because "we are all buying it and going to play together, doing co op and multiplayer, it will be fun!" Then you buy it expecting them to buy it too, and they never do... and you KNOW they are making fun of you for it behind your back. The last game they tried this on me was Anthem. I saw threw it and called em out and told em how garbage that game is. They would say too, "DLC's and expansions will make the game better. Stop being such a lame hater" I moved away and stopped hanging out with them. Before I moved, they tried so hard to convince me im a lame hater and I am wrong, and that htey will have tons of fun with the game. Week after I moved they all stopped playing.... but they where so ADAMANT that they would be playing this game years to come...

[@adrianjuarez1162]

@Lightsaber328 TheMan not really Disney ruined marvel.

[@massy9437]

@@slimebuck if you fell for this more than once its fully on you

[@luichinplaystation610]

Look for new friends

[@pickedceasar1216]

@Lightsaber328 TheMan you clearly don't know who Stan Lee was. He did some shady things but he wasn't the one trying to change things. Especially in the last few decades

[@skmeing9109]

This game reminds me of those crappy movie tie in games that would be created whenever a new super hero movie released, like that one Thor game.

[@adamofblastworks1517]

It's the AAA version of that. Slightly better garbage.

[@troyg2102]

I prefer the cheap movie tie ins to this. At least some are okay budget games. Something like Transformers on ps2. Wasnt bad, wasn't amazing. But this is offensive

[@e5gar452]

Ultimate alliance anyone.

[@andreiiiksavvv6054]

Or the iron Man games

[@Dr.Oofers]

@@troyg2102 Dude Spider-Man 2 for the ps2 was an absolute blast

[@wal_rider8479]

"Miss marvel actually has a creative ability" ... Looks at One Piece....

[@oreox1000]

Mr. Fantastic would like a word.

[@kaydee66781]

@@oreox1000 And Plastic Man, Elongated Man, Elastigirl...

[@TheNobleFive]

She's pretty cool when I got used to her.

[@megamike15]

she is just a mish mash of mister fantastic and antman.

[@mcfry13]

"Creative" and "Original" are two different words. Her powers a NOT original, but how she uses them can be creative and unique to her. The game did okay (better than the comics at least), but honestly it didn't really get me invested in her or her powers.

[@geekdoms]

This makes me glad Insomniac actually likes Spiderman and its lore

[@reddude954]

I think of it as more of a good thing. It’s always good when a trashy, microtransaction-filled mess fails as it should. One day they’ll realize pumping out this garbage is not only going to hurt their PR, but their bottom line as well, and things like this hopefully speed up that process.

[@torquetheprisoner]

it killed dead space as a game franchise dead in the water thanks to its micro transactions

[@valletas]

before square used to be know for quality but now everywhere we look we see hate after they made ff13 ff15 and kh3 they lost the good will they had avengers is just what made people vocal about it

[@axios4702]

Problem is, it doesnt really hurt their PR, we've assumed trash as the status quo of the industry and who cares if companies like EA are seen as the devil as long as millions keep buying their sports games every year? The industry is not going to stop producing this because, even if some fail, others are successful and the successful ones are more profitable.

[@marreco6347]

We've been expecting this day for over a decade, so... you might wanna have a seat.

[@112523]

dont forget that left alive is also a squenix game. i mention this cuz this studio seems to be unaware of the fact that the only good games they made in the last few years are the games from their well known franchises. and the worst part about this is that they seem to make those games less. theyre sitting on a goldmine of franchises and do nothing with them. for example. they own the "legacy of kain" franchise but they have claimed they wont do anything with it and will probably let it die

[@BannerMirror501]

YEE HAW! Destroy it cat man.

[@natsgreatoldgamereviews6271]

Cat man

[@kylereese811]

I read this as prim slim

[@jcdentongaming1304]

@@kylereese811 now I cannot unhear it

[@junpei6180]

I'm the cat man My fur ball is delicious

[@kelvinthesleeper]

Cat man >>> Cat boy

[@Kurai_69420]

Marvel's Avengers is a monument to all the gaming industry's sins

[@Absolynth]

Mankind Divided is a strange game that features only several blocks of a city to explore, but is so freakishly dense that I still found myself discovering new areas and side things in 2020 after all these years lol

[@MatthewCobalt]

Wait, Blood: Masquerade is getting a battle royale? Jesus, this year is getting worse everytime I blink.

[@MatthewCobalt]

@@MrNickPresley That's not the only insulting thing about this, it's the fact that most of those who want Battle Royale already got their own preferences filled in the last half decade, so anything else they could add would probably be left unnoticed

[@Shishomuru]

Literally no one : Bloodline devs : You what this game needs? A Battle Royal mode, surely everyone who liked the first single player RPG would love that!

[@rafterman5072]

The sad thing is that the actual single player RPG is shaping up to be a mess. Really they should focus all resources in to making that game at least decent.

[@CookiePieMonster]

A battleroyal of vamps doesn't sound inherently bad, but it could easily be implemented badly.

[@laurene988]

I've been pretty concerned about that for a while. It went from "oh I'm gonna need to grab that" to "I'll wait for the reviews and then maybe grab it a year or 2 later when the price drops" to "I'm not buying it". I mean the facial animations for the female characters is insultingly bad. I don't know what the devs are focusing on but I don't understand their logic at all

[@porassrivastava8242]

Ah young Justice reference! Dick Grayson: why isn't someone ever just whelmed?

[@custom-r]

Seeing how this game went down, I can't blame a Deus Ex fan for having a deep grudge against Marvel and Square Enix for this.

[@AzuriteCoast]

Abu (Kamala's dad) is as far as I can tell from this review, a true treasure.

[@CharlatanWonder]

Abu for United States Senate and then for President in like 20 years when we're ready for that.

[@raizan1]

Abu means dad btw his name is Yusuf Khan

[@therealwinston3634]

He will install sharia law in the US definitly

[@pharaohkhalil]

Y'all remember when Spiderman was supposed to be an exclusive character for ps4 and he didn't come out day one? Also my friend and were playing this and he ended up getting stuck in the mission where you unlock black widow and the part where you played Kamala, he played as a giant black widow with Kamala's dialogue. This was since the game released. He still hasn't been able to make it past the mission even after all the updates. Needless to say the game was deleted by everyone in the squad and forgotten about.

[@NA-vz9ko]

I would expect so, considering the multiplayer is even worse than the rest of the game.

[@SM-pv4sn]

So the newest Deus Ex was cancelled for this trainwreck. Sounds like they took a page straight out of EA management's guide on how to be bad at your job, when they cancelled Dungeon Keeper 3 and shut down Bullfrog to make a new Happy Potter game. That move also was a financial and brand image disaster. There are so many people out there who work in decision making positions in the gaming industry that are completely disconnected from what their company actually does. An MBA from Harvard is nice, but it's not a substitute for having exactly zero knowledge of your product or audience.

[@slavyori2140]

“Happy Potter”, hee hee

[@megamarine]

Squenix will just put blame on developer and axe few heads, sad but true. They always pull out one of two cards. "players don't want any more this type of games" or "Devs sucked"

[@Graknorke]

Yeah I think it's very optimistic to expect that Squenix will learn anything good from this. They're never going to blame the concept because they want to keep good relations with Disney, so they'll blame the developers instead for the constraints put upon them.

[@valletas]

Sad but true The entire reason squre and enix merged was because square made a bad movie that lost a bunch of money so in a truly genious move they started to make another movie after the merge...

[@jack0lantern03]

Yeah, they can never admit that the fault just might lie in their own bad decisions.

[@winterdragon2004]

I'm kinda worried we might have another Viseral Games situation. It probably won't happen, but I've already been burned once before.

[@Charok1]

then the idiot in charge will get a raise for the fuck up. don't forget about that.

[@paulinapaola]

Oh god, the vampire the masquerade battle royale 😭

[@paulinapaola]

@Type C Thank you, that sounds better than I thought. The DLC situation is regrettable, but if the core game is better than the average battle royale, I'll be happy.

[@francosorbelo7147]

Fr who asked for this

[@paulinapaola]

@@francosorbelo7147 The board room - _- Funny thing is, since Vampire the Masquerade is originally a TRPG, like Dungeons and Dragons, a multiplayer mode isn't that farfetched. A good co-op would be great. But a full-on battle royale? Could turn out humiliating for the IP if they make it a janky Fortnite with vampires.

[@CeroAshura]

Is it true that the game leads left the project?

[@SamGarcia]

@@paulinapaola I can see a battle royale working if it would be a completely different kind of battle royale other than an FPS. I can see something more slower paced. Of course, it probably will not end that way, but I wish there were deeper battle royale games than just shoot and survive. Just the idea of competing in a long term is cool.

[@Niko-br9ql]

it brings a small tear of joy in my eye when cash grabs like this fail.

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

You looked like a vampire from the regency era that picked up rocker style, that just gave up on life and wants to go out in the worst way out.

[@CharlatanWonder]

Not gonna lie to you, shits been pretty hard for me since the Fall of the Vienna Chantry.

[@thepeacemaker5660]

Hopefully cyberpunk will bring good attention to the cyberpunk genre and square enix will realise what they had with the deus ex franchise.

[@nothere1578]

If they finally fucking release it that is.

[@avengedlol6698]

@@nothere1578 2077 /s It will be released before summer 2021... probably, I hope.

[@ZorgNothing]

I mean, it'll bring attention sure, but I think Cyberpunk 2077 is going to be pretty bad...

[@cybericarus1476]

@@ZorgNothing i think it's gonna be good but probably won't live up to the insane hype people thinking this game is gonna be the greatest game ever are gonna feel let down

[@NiGHTSIntoMemes]

Honestly, I lost interest in it once I saw the trailer and plot synopsis. I was hoping it was going to have something to actually say about the current systems in place and dive into what makes a dystopian setting...you know, _dystopian,_ and tell a story that actually aligns with the punk ideology but it doesn't really look like it. Which is a shame, too, because I was genuinely pretty excited for it.

[@meggomyeggo431]

Fun fact of the day: Travis Willingham, who voices Thor in this game and literally everything else, as a tattoo in Nordic runes that says “worthy” and I think that’s pretty cool

[@ghstgvts]

Travis is a cool dude.

[@ghstgvts]

@@Inchido definitely

[@Kikker861]

Squenix can go to hell. They have been sitting on gold mines for years, but they complain how its not petroleum.

[@ericbuckner3806]

Amen 🙏

[@Peripeteia]

Wew, a million thanks for the shoutout, Charl!

[@muwuny]

Sneed

[@oniemployee3437]

Any person who unironically says "pog" or "pogger(s)" is, by law, subject to scrutiny.

[@SepSyn]

Based and poggerspilled

[@TheNobleFive]

Mommy milkies

[@mr.2083]

Let's be honest, if they can't even bother do write good scripts or make original movies, why would they be bother trying to make a good game? After all the strategy is just endless milking the intellectual properties they have and the fanboys will buy it anyways, just like happens with the movies.

[@oniemployee3437]

The movies are fun to watch though. They're no cinematic masterpieces but they are good in their own right.

[@tylerhouston69]

Bruh that's D.C. Marvel tries and yes they got Disneified to HECK and back but they put all of the effort into the movies.

[@powwow6427]

@@tylerhouston69 Oh please, from iron dude and flashy hammer to retards combined: endgame it's all been the same predictable cow dung they've been serving you together with superficial characters, unappealing repetative dialogue, silly Mcguffins and some flashy cgi to top it off. And the fanboys have been gobbling it up like it's the spice from Dune.

[@tylerhouston69]

@@powwow6427 Yeah okay sure man hate on something popular because you don't like it doesn't make it trash ya raccoon gobbler.

[@alastor8091]

@@tylerhouston69 Deadpool was popular. Deadpool was good. Avengers is popular. Avengers is not good. Being popular does not make you good.

[@Mrlaneck]

I'm 2 minutes in and i gotta stop you right there. I don't know anybody that was expecting this game to be good. It was obvious this game was gonna be a shitty cash grab that was just trying to ride the hype wave after endgame. The fact that this game failed is no surprise to anybody with eyes.

[@CookiePieMonster]

Lol. That's a lie. I've seen plenty idiots surprised and also some defending it. Idiots are real and they have money unfortunately.

[@rodracer4567]

@@CookiePieMonster Well you know about what happens to a fool and his money

[@IBACAU123]

What a shame *lip smack* it was a good game series.

[@Mbeluba]

What a rotten way to die.

[@Ikcatcher]

Just another example of Sqaure Enix’s incompetence with managing western games

[@KamikazeChinaman]

Hey, that's not fair. They're pretty terrible with Japanese games too.

[@valletas]

@@KamikazeChinaman they were so good in the past but after ff 10 it all started to go donwhill slowly and now nobody likes them anymore

[@addictedtoRS]

@@valletas I feel it's the same with every game development company now. Somewhere around 2010 game development took a huge turn and started prioritizing profits over anything. Games used to be unique, with new IP's popping up left right and center all with their own creative ideas and different approaches to what makes a good video game. Nowadays we just served the same rehashed shit, over and over and over again. Every game just takes ideas from other games now and rips them off in such blatant ways. Barely any creativity and/or originality with video games these days which is a huge shame.

[@RollingDodge]

@@KamikazeChinaman, Your probably right, and I heard that KH3 sucked and had NO FF characters. It was more of a Pixar and Disney game. The characters were useless apart from Sora. People have actually defended it, agreeing with the lazy cheap excuses and no FF characters. They agree with the statement that it's good enough to stand on it's own. But they underdeveloped their own characters, worst gameplay, less worlds, and people are giving them excuses. They didn't have enough time, despite the 3rd game taking way too long to come out but still it was somehow rushed and worst than all of the previous games. Despite that people defend it saying it doesn't have to be better than KH1 and Kh2 or you can't expect it to be better than the previous games. KH3 took like 3 years to come out. The previous games still hold up. KH3 didn't add any Marvel or Star Wars characters either. IDK, why people are intent on giving them excuses, they did a half-cocked job, IDC, excuses cannot be excused.

[@TheEnigmaticBM39]

@@RollingDodge KH3 was in development hell for over a decade, where did you get 3 years from lol

[@DarkW0lverine]

People didn't abandon comics because they got political. They abandoned them cause they were preachy, self-righteous, joyless & cynically moralizing while also not telling interesting stories

[@tadpolegaming4510]

Some people who distanced themselves from Comicsgate chose the self-important "both sides are bad" viewpoint. I'm afraid Charlatan might've been one

[@Galvatronover]

I love how people point to the X-men when discussing this when the difference is the X-men was fun while also discussing issues unlike today

[@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881]

Precisely. Just because your doing something doesnt automatically make it good or bad, except modern comics expects blind praise right off the bat and think they can spit on customers time and time again and expect us to bail them out when they blame us for their losses and never take responsibility themselves.

[@reillymcwriting]

Hell, civil war is most of those but it’s still good. You want to be political in comics without having any substance to it, be a politician

[@bughuntwilson5937]

@MrGpt2010 you just insulted him not give him a actual well done argument

[@BoulderPunch]

Holy shit, you actually played through this? I just talk shit about it, but you went ahead and suffered for your art! I salute you. Absolute mad lad.

[@maltsutty]

I love seeing random Boulder Punch comments in KZbin videos 😄😄😄😄😄

[@Lesandira]

"I never asked for this." - Eidos Montreal

[@Sad_Elf]

It's almost as if no one should ever support squeenix ever, couldn't imagine why

[@moscowvicent831]

I'll be honest with you when I heard deus ex was canceled for this b******* I was so angry so you taking this thing out like Drago did with Apollo feels so righteously good

[@moscowvicent831]

I just realized and that's analogy Drago is Deus ex and Apollo is Marvel's avengers marvel avengers is a cocky little son of a b**** that failed and Drago is the monster everyone wishes they could be

[@Gamefreak2998]

Fun fact: they cited the hitting of their western studios as due to ‘over spending’ by the western branch during a time the eastern branch of square was in record development hell and spending a crossed the board

[@ExeErdna]

That's what seems to happen western side spends too much and has nothing to show for years of work. While the eastern side is normally too damn fearful to lose money to try something new or untested. This is ironic with both because I've seen their games they can do something different and make money.

[@dootmarine1140]

The ironic thing is: everyone I know who loves marvel, praises this game to heaven. I suppose love truly does blind.

[@crozraven]

My "risky-crazy" idea for an actual MARVEL "SUPERHEROES" RPG: - A narrative driven "party based" TBS tactical RPG. - Feature hundred of marvel superheroes & their unique story campaigns. - Semi low budget but a more unique & beautifully artistic 2.5D detailed comic book art design (i. e. like HADES). - Feature multi region worlds around earth & maybe galaxy. - Feature full voice over on every dialogues & multi languages. - Combat system is tactical TBS RPG with party of 6 characters & 4 in reserved roles. aside from skills, positioning also very important. For examples: Suikoden series, Chrono Cross, Divinity OS series, Shadowrun series, Trails series, SMT series, Persona series, Front Mission series, Wasteland series, etc. - Camera is top down perspective while traveling around worlds. - Feature helicarrier for traveling on certain open areas. - Feature a main base & secret bases around the worlds. - Feature a camp system via helicarrier. - Feature multiple choices & endings for the narratives/stories. - Feature unite attacks from every 3 linked characters.

[@Graknorke]

Isn't that like their mobile game? Besides the full voice acting, which would be insane on a game with hundreds of unique characters.

[@adamofblastworks1517]

@@Graknorke it's doesn't have movement and positioning in combat though. Its combat is just a JRPG from what I can tell from the promotional material.

[@crozraven]

@@Graknorke totally different in terms of tactical maneuvers, the scope of the worlds that much akin to CRPG games, & some other things like unique portraits & power attack scenes. In the most basic forms of depictions: - Art design: HADES + MARVEL comics - RPG & Combat: DOS2/Shadowrun/Wasteland/Torment/Front Mission (tacticality) + Trails/Fire Emblems/Persona (attack scenes) + Trails/Persona (RPG leveling) - Dialogues & Scenes: HADES + Persona - Narrative/RPG stories: CRPG games - The worlds: multiple big world maps within overworld galaxy scale map - Mini games: Helicarrier raid/defense?? (idk tbh LOL)

[@ExeErdna]

Most of these hacks these days wouldn't even know what to do with most of these characters. Hell even in X-Men Legends characters started to overlap a bit too much.

[@supertaoman12]

Man a Super Robot Wars esque experience TRPG with marvel characters would be so dope.

[@SenialHobo]

And now, if you'll excuse me, I have some Deus Ex to play. Been meaning to get back to it anyway.

[@fumbleweeddumblecock2360]

I've been raving about this ever since the third Jensen game was cancelled, on every video even slightly related to the Deus Ex franchise or to rumors regarding this shitshow of a game. I can't say I knew this was going to be a shitshow, but I was sure as hell that whatever could be conjured from the consumerist comic book scene wouldn't hold a bloody candle to an immersive sim, not to mention a Deus Ex game.

[@chandude3]

Imagine buying one of these cash cow super hero games and actually expecting a good game, lol.

[@MrNickPresley]

I dunno, the Spiderman games on the playstation have been pretty good so far. It's as close to Spiderman 2 as they've gotten in a long, long time.

[@chandude3]

@@MrNickPresley spider man and the first arkham are the only exemptions out of hundreds of garbage games lol

[@Adam-nc6qg]

@@chandude3 preach

[@michaelharder8644]

All three marvel ultimate alliance games are worth picking up as well

[@jajie-yl4hu]

I bought it because I hadnt looked at the internet about it at all, and didnt know it was a failure

[@BinaryDood]

i wonder how much of those 150 million could go for a Chrono, Parasite EVE or Xenogears game or... well... Deus Ex

[@komi-samabeliever7319]

Also Sleeping Dogs... (sniff)

[@IJNAoba9-25-26]

Ah, Triple A games, where the Story and Micro transactions are longer than the Gameplay.

[@MJSHappy]

God damn that continuity ran at 23:20 hits hard. The "briefly bonded to the Venom Symbiote" joke is too accurate.

[@MoreImbaThanYou]

It's still baffling to me how Square Enix does get away with so much. To me, they are on the same level like EA and Activision. And their decline isn't exactly something new either.

[@Darek_B52]

I recorded a full playthrough. Editing the video was so boring and painful I just trashed the whole video. Am I wrong or is this an Avengers game with the plot of an X-men comic?

[@legatelaurie]

X men comics aren't that bad (okay, mainline X men comics in the last 4 years or so have been dogshit, but not this awful)

[@FortressLordJP193]

One of my friends bought on release and "enjoyed" Marvel's Avengers. (So good he was done after like 2 days clearly). It still looks terrible to me. Nice to see the video and the like-dislike ratio confirm I'm not crazy, it really was just sunken cost fallacy.

[@randomtaglmao]

You've made it Squinix, finally you broke him, finally you've won. You've torn someone apart, someone that was always happy, that always smiled. Someone that didn't deserve to have his favorite game cancelled. Someone that was happy making youtube videos and reviews of games. Someone that loved with all his hearth Deus Ex and was waiting for the last game. Someone that knew how to remain strong. You've hurt him and take away his happiness My poor Charlatan Wonder, what have they done? I hope you can go through this.

[@borkborkbork1144]

Hulk should have been able to grap enemy's and just yeet them at other targets

[@ClarencePaul]

You can do that absolutely.

[@troyg2102]

Hulk was better on the ps2 game

[@Dickkickem460]

@@troyg2102 was that based off of one of the two movies that had really bad CGI and at some point had mutant dog balls , I'm not even kidding some artists spent the time to CGI render testicles onto a giant mutant dog

[@noctis1372]

I love Human Revolution and Mankind Divided, mans need to know the end of trilogy lol

[@DrMatrix1231]

My wish is that obsidian somehow takes up the deus ex IP and completes the prequel series. But that's a fool's hope.

[@CharlatanWonder]

I used to live nearby where Obsidian is based and my work was right next to theirs. I dont want anyone who goes to California Pizza Kitchen every day for lunch anywhere near a Deus Ex game.

[@DrMatrix1231]

@@CharlatanWonder I guess, I just wish that hopefully anyone but square(or Activision, Konami, and maybe EA) gets their hands on deus ex to complete the story.

[@joeymobb8438]

@@DrMatrix1231 Soooooo any of the big studios then? Or would Ubisoft be acceptable?

[@DrMatrix1231]

@@joeymobb8438 okay so, for EA it's a grey area, if they don't do a square the whatever. Ubisoft is a maybe, they do seem to be getting back on track. I was more thinking of nightdive studios, but if it's out of their scope then Microsoft. It's a bunch of grey that's hard to narrow down. Definitely a "pick your poison" situation and I don't have the best answer. I just know that Activision Blizzard and Konami are fucking death knells. What is your input?

[@joeymobb8438]

@@DrMatrix1231 I'd vote Obsidian. But it doesn't matter because square will never let that lisence go.

[@SyxxPunk]

"You can be a perky optimist while being aware of how the real world works, but not here." Writers lately just have not been able to separate optimism from naivety.

[@Craven2388]

Just found your channel with this video. You covered a lot of the same points I have made with my friends about my sadness and fury about what they did to deus ex. Good video, great points... I laughed, I held back a tear. May this only show the overlords who hold controll over what we love, that you can't just shove money and a intellectual property onto something and have it print money. Here is hoping for a better future for deus ex. We fans haven't forgotten it.

[@WoollyMittens]

The most useful feature of this game was all the reviewers outing themselves as shills.

[@maltsutty]

Lol ShillUp specifically hahahaha

[@nickblack2006]

Please tell me Troy baker gets to play his Banjo again ?

[@GraceMcCown]

I like the visual of Kamala's powers in the comics. The off proportions of her limbs allows the artists more leway and makes her fights at least a little fun to look at visually. Seeing the attacks brought to the third dimension in this game just looks weird though.

[@quietcontender6969]

The issue with bad decisions is bad execs who constantly think they know better. An exec went to school for finance will tell a game designer or film director writer etc who went to school for their craft whats good and what's bad when they probably don't even use the product they are selling.

[@Graknorke]

Most big budget game execs don't have a background in creative works but instead are brought in from just general industry. I know that executive work isn't really much to do with the actual ground level work, but you'd think they should have some familiarity.

[@Ovog95]

Thinking only in terms of a marvel game, this is really sad. I remember playing Marvel Ultimate Alliance and having a blast, this could have been something like that. Also, it's sad that all the work that went into the game was for nothing at the end, since the game is not good. In terms of a canceled deus ex, this is really the worst.

[@wimmer3324]

The cat petting was more riveting to watch than any of the gameplay footage

[@creepyreflection8072]

Theres another main point I wish superhero games did: first person view. Im not saying that third person is inherently bad but imagine how cool it would feel to fly around shooting things as Iron Man instead of always feeling out of body.

[@TheSuperQuail]

Dude. I was 'over' superheroes when Iron Man 1 released. FML

[@The24thWight]

I remember waiting the whole movie for Black Sabbath to start playing. The credits rolled and it started the guitar. Only to immediately cut to some other shit.

[@clearlywrong6520]

SquEnix: *sells Eidos for NFT money like a crack addict*

[@trashman6829]

This game legit just looked like Destiny without any guns, which, considering Destiny is and always has been a shooter, was probably the crux of the issue. Searching for higher tier loot means nothing if that loot doesnt have anything unique to it other than "increases x stat higher than previous gear". The power level grind of Destiny (Especially 2) has been the thing people have railed against Bungie for doing the most poorly for years now, that shouldnt be the basis of your video game. At its worst, Destiny at least has unique weapons/weapon archetypes and fun perks that fit into even more fun builds, even in high end play. At its best, Marvel's Avengers is a diablo clone wearing somebody else's dirty socks.

[@kingfish3916]

At least Destiny has an interesting plot and setting

[@fort809]

Exactly what I thought watching this. In destiny you don’t grind for loot because it has a higher number, you grind for it because it’s unique, fun to use, or the meta that season. Nobody grinded for Falling Guillotine because it had a higher number; they grinded for it because it was nuts and could melt half the raid bosses in the game

[@oreox1000]

@@fort809 Guillotine is your friend boys. Aztecross quote aside, you’re right. I didn’t enjoy the recent Warmind bunker season as it didn’t explain the mechanics particularly well IMO, but I wanted the Seventh Seraph weapons. I mean in the first game I played Crucible for Red Specter because AR with knife on it.

[@bossross8270]

I honestly latched onto this game more than I ever did with Destiny.

[@cheefqueef6494]

@@kingfish3916 The new expansion was trash guy how can you think Bungie was the same as they were almost 20 years ago now.

[@Apollyon.King.of.the.Locusts]

I don''t think that Eidos Montréal will be given a chance by Square Enix to develop more Deus Ex games after the commercial failure of Marvel's Avengers. "What a shame." as J.C. Denton would have said it.

[@declanhinshaw4791]

Been waiting for a review tearing this apart. Thanks man!

[@hipxel8918]

man i lost faith in all AAA games right now

[@DivinityOfBLaze]

I got motion sickness from watching lets plays of this game due to how shakey the camera is. That says a lot about how shakey it is.

[@moppt]

Your passion shines through, and it’s great to see. All we have is hope and spending power to try and make things a little better.

[@supernico374]

To be honest, I am happy Deus Ex´s legacy wont be harmed anymore, Mankind Divided may have been a good game, but it wasn´t a good Deus Ex, that is the only red flag I need to believe the chances of ever getting a true entry of Deus Ex are pretty much null.

[@gangofheroes]

The more and more I hear of this game, the more I believe this game was originally going to be a custom character mmo style game with playing as the Avengers characters for just ionic missions.

[@igotakitty777]

I'm not trying to be mean, but there's a few times that you said "I'd be missed if I ..." and I think you mean to say "I'd be remiss if I...". Unless I'm just hearing you wrong.

[@slimebuck]

What Disney is to movies, SQUARE ENIX is to video games. Take cool and interesting topics and dumb them down for the masses, to the point that all the soul, heart and point of the original thing are all gone and all that is left is a lifeless husk

[@deathsyth8888]

(Square Enix shafts a promising Deus Ex sequel to produce a mediocre, micro-transactions laden, grindy Avengers game) Adam Jensen: "I never asked for this."

[@the_numb_skull]

Your channel is the whole reason I got back into immersive sims, you reminded me how good Bioshock was so I replayed it, I got Prey 2017 and loved it, I bought System Shock 2 and loved it, YOU convinced me to buy Deus Ex, as well as human revolution and mankind divided... I love these games so much, and to know that the next big immersive sim was canceled for this... I feel your pain, maybe not to the same degree but I feel it. It’s the same feeling I felt when I found out Microsoft formed 343 to continue halo even though the story was already wrapped up, it’s the same feeling I got when Valve finally came back and accounted a damned card came as their returning title and I realized, for the first time, how shitty, dumb and greedy this industry is.

[@gnarkillguch]

My fiance is a die hard Avengers fan. She was looking forward to this game, and even had it pre-ordered. Once we played the beta, even she passed on this trash.

[@Fonix00]

as a chef, those sleeves stress me the hell out i kept thinking how many ways youk could have killed or maimed yourself in a kitchen. Also quite the bad game a canceled deus ex game out of 10

[@CharlatanWonder]

Yeah I really shoulda had em rolled up or something but I was blinded by THE PAIN.

[@Fonix00]

@@CharlatanWonder I feel you brother. one day maybe the world WILL know your sacrifice.

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@CharlatanWonderi love the video though i disagree with the first point that people are suffering superhero fatigue. people have simply excepted this is the end of good HOLLYWOOD superhero movies because most of dc superhero movies suk and marvel has revealed the enirity of phase 4 and other then a new doctor strange movie its all woke lazy mary sue crap from modern marvel from lady thor to ms marvel to captian marvel to wokeified black widow{as in her actor said her movie would be about smashing the patriarchy} etc etc. my best examples of proof that its because of this rather then superhero fatiuge is this MY HERO ACADEMIA AND ONE PUNCH MAN. both based on western esk superheros both still selling like gang busters both having people incrediple excited for new seasons and every new chapter of there mangas.

[@sunwardo7714]

@@wilmagregg3131 wh-what?

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@sunwardo7714 i said i disagree with it being superhero fatiuge because people are still loving and mega excited for one punch man and my hero academia

[@ChrisLincoln]

During the loading screen they show brief animations of the characters and Black Widow blinked out of sync. Both eyes closed at the same time but opened and different speeds so she looked drunk. I saw that screen a LOT when I played and they never fixed it.

[@miguellilly8859]

"Thoughts that do not know pain will never understand true peace." -pain

[@frostyjay8538]

Is it me or does the video stutter in some areas? idk if it’s just my Wi-Fi connection or if the game is just that messy

[@ozmul5810]

I feel this is just the beginning and it will end with the next ET game.

[@adamofblastworks1517]

17:06 "... the Ant Hill..." Is that where 8-Bit Brody is holding the Ant Olympics?

[@MothFable]

9:27 I died when Thor’s super was revealed.

[@fren111]

So you are saying that this game is for Movie Bob?

[@silverscreemer]

I think the break was perfectly timed. After Endgame and Far From Home, having a break from the movies was needed. I am excited to see Black Widow, and Multiverse of Madness and such. Wandavision too. As for the game, they should have just made Marvel Heroes 2. Seriously. I am still upset that game is dead, and then they point at the new one and say start collecting again. Rent the stuff. My only hope for a silver lining is that the absolute failure of this game will change the new Batman game, and Suicide Squad game to be great and not garbage. We will see though, if that game bombs for the same reason avengers did, they deserve to suffer for not learning from their competitors mistakes.

[@1337BigBadWolf]

Stop being a consoomer

[@joeymobb8438]

You're delusional if you think any other studio is going to look at this failure and learn any lessons.

[@sammacintyre1351]

I recall my first thought on seeing that Crystal Dynamics - the studio behind the Legacy of Kain series - was making this piece of garabge was 'well shit, they've fallen a ways.'

[@drackestalentorgen166]

Dude you were going to break a vessel, that was some cold rage

[@jackstanton2145]

Why is vampire the masquerade turning into a battle royale game. Who asked for that that? What is next a Sesame Street battle royale?

[@OysterBoyo]

VTMB2 looks way worse than a VTM battle royale, I hate the genre but who knows, it could be actually good

[@valletas]

@@OysterBoyo but man thats like the worse franchise to make a br WHO WILL BE PLAYING IT? It needs players to be fun but thats a really really niche franchise thats just a waste of resources

[@OysterBoyo]

@@valletas you're right but who knows until it come out?

[@valletas]

@@OysterBoyo think about it like the doom 2016 multplayer it wasnt popular considering the sp numbers compared to mp but the game sold millions so there wqs still a bunch of people playing Now think like that to vampire but its a very unknown franchise in a niche genre with a playerbase that just care about the sp