Maschine+ OR Mpc One / Live II? (Comparison)

[@bentaylor5328]

I bought the MPC One back in January and I personally love it. Next to my electric guitar, MPC One is the best piece of gear I've ever bought.

[@AccurateBeats]

That’s great man! people definitely has their own personal experiences with these devices. Glad to hear it :)

[@sinewaymusic]

@@thecreepysilence4290 It's excellent for any electronic genre. I've made several trance/house/techno tracks with it. It's amazingly versatile. The software synths are decent, too, lots of good presets to get you going. Lots of control of the mix using inserts and sends with effect chains. You could use a return channel as a parallel processing track for your drums, but you can also dynamically add plenty of effects on the drums themselves, per pad/sample, like distortion, ring modulation and 50+ other effects. The only downside I've found is that the CPU has its limits. If you push it to those limits, you'll start to experience stutters. Not affecting the exported track, but heard when playing it live. I mostly hit this limitation when getting close to a finished track and my solution is to switch to Controller mode and using the MPC 2.0 software on my MacBook air instead.

[@aloharay]

All true. The time spent focusing on the specs of gear means less time using the gear. Pick one you like and marry it.

[@AccurateBeats]

For sure! learning the tool at hand makes the biggest difference m. 100%

[@ventactics]

Yeah well said. With digital music, there's many paths to the same sound, find your shortest or most seamless

[@MiketheNerdRanger]

The reason people do this is because of cost. Most people who want these will not be able to just toss money at it, and if they find they don't like it, just toss money at the other thing. Let's not forget money is an issue.

[@warnutztheloser]

@@MiketheNerdRanger fax the cost is everything

[@thomas-ww9zt]

wow - that was a no-bullsit / no-biased / no-fanboy comparison.... Refreshing. Like your content man!

[@AccurateBeats]

Thank you! I tried to make this as helpful as possible without going to easy or hard on any of them. I'm glad you enjoyed it! :D

[@DJWOLFLIVE]

I’ve had both and for me it’s been the maschine+ hands down not just because of it’s a standalone and direct download of the expansion packs to the device via Wi-Fi but because it’s so much fun and enjoyable to create and make music on. For me it’s really the workflow that I like better!

[@draglinedrummer]

Isn't there a limit to how many expansions you can have on it? I have always felt more comfortable on Maschine and really want to go standalone but being more limited stops me from going that route. I have an MK3 but want to get away from being tired to computer.

[@DavesDomeTube]

​@@draglinedrummer It depends on if your sd card has enough space, the standard SD card that comes with the Maschine Plus is indeed very limited in storage, so you will need to upgrade that if you want to add a decent amount of expansions.

[@LukeLine]

The MPC Live has been a dream over the last 4 years! So much inside, all my 20gb of Splice sample packs and it is truly standalone!

[@ProducedBy10A]

I use an mpcx that I got given at the worlds beat battle in toronto 2019. I can happily say I really love the mpcx and machine when its not crashing but then I copped an iPad pro and that thing has taken over both stand alone machines lol its a fricken ipad!!! The ipad is so powerful with the amount of proffessional plugins and daws. Its just mind blowing when paired with a bluetooth keyboard or any midi controller and sound card. My 2cents

[@rafsanrahi2469]

I connect the MPC One to my iPad Pro 2021 and use the mpc as a sequencer to my korg gadgets. It is THE perfect combo. Gadget 2 doesn’t have a powerful sequencer which mpc does and mpc doesn’t have powerful cpu for HQ plug-ins and iPad has M1 chip. So one device complements the other very well. And pair the two with a MPK midi controller…dream come tru!

[@LaidbackSounds]

@@rafsanrahi2469 or you could just use cubasis in the ipad lol

[@Bsoftproductions]

I agree about the muscle memory thing. I can fly through maschine and could never get into the MPC workflow. I have a Maschine+ on the way and I’m really excited to get into it. I’ve owned a Maschine Mikro, MK2, and a Studio and I loved them all

[@Schemez-16vhiphopbeatz]

Never used the mashine but just got an mpc last week and love the work flow iv heard the machine is faster but I clicked with the mpc

[@Ulvens]

This is absolutely awesome. Having a sample and beatmaking connoisseur explaining me the difference between these machines. Much appreciated. Thank you.

[@dracul74]

They are both great. I like the arranging on Maschine and the sampling on the Mpc. I recently picked up the mc 707... not a good sampler... but a fantastic tool to build tracks with what is in the box with 8 out tracking over usb. For me I had tried to use these as daw replacements... honestly that doesn’t work for me... now i use them as song generator and I finish in the daw. Being able to switch between these helps keep the inspiration going...

[@michaeltrenier]

DITTO

[@sinewaymusic]

I bought the MPC One mainly due to cost reasons, where the Maschine+ was nearly twice the price. I hesitated because it looked like the MPC community was mostly hip hop producers, and I do electronic music (trance, techno, ambient, retrowave, etc). In the end, the MPC One is the best hardware music production purchase I've ever made. It's truly amazing. And I've gone through many machines over the years, the MC-101, Digitakt, Digitone, Pocket operators, and many synths. The MPC also handles external synths beautifully and its sequencer has things my DAW doesn't even have, such as polyphonic aftertouch (Reason lacks it).

[@SonicVibe]

Agreed

[@jamainebrown]

Me too I so wanted the machine 😂 because my laptop broke and wasn’t wanting another I just wanted the stand alone and I’m so glad I chose the one ☝🏾 it’s only been 4wks and I’m loving it messing with samples and finding myself with it I’ve still am got some way to go I love old skill house so I’m trying to re create And get better at arranging my music 🎵

[@GrootsieTheDog]

Great to hear! I like making ambient and minimal electronic music genres and I bought the One thinking this could be amazing for these styles. Just started digging in so right now a bit lost. Any tips for ambient on the MPC One would be 👍 great!

[@sinewaymusic]

@@GrootsieTheDog Haven't personally attempted ambient yet but will soon. I'd say you probably will want to use the Granulator effect on at least one synth track. That, with an octave shift and in a chain followed by Air Reverb is magical.

[@delfiobacco7156]

i always loved mpc's and while i really like hip hop and occasionally make some beats i'm into other types of electronic music,fact is the mpc's always were the best and most open sequencers, allowing one to write every kind of music and not strictly 16 steps pattern based stuff. i had mpc 2kxl, 4k,2.5k and 1k prior to my actual mpc live mk1. all sounded great. i had an octatrack for about a cpl of years and while it was a great weird creative device, it always sounded bad to my ears, especially when mixing different stuff. not enough headroom, and sounded flat as hell, a bit better in 24 bits but nowhere near any mpc in history :)

[@mechasartre3694]

Maschine won me from Akai with the Plus. I still love my 2500 but I hated the Live, that said I find the Maschine infuriating in how close to perfect they got it and how I’ve lost ~£500 off it’s new value in a very short space of time, but if they can just fix the remaining bugs then I’d run in a burning building for it. Great review.

[@AccurateBeats]

Thank you! Yeah, Maschine+ has a lot going for it without being perfect, for sure!

[@joshuagardner894]

Not mentioned is the tagging system in the Maschine+. The sounds in the Maschine+ are better, the effects are better, the tagging system is better (it is VERY easy to find samples based on genre or instrument type). The Maschine+ however is missing that touch screen, which I find to be easier to work with. Both units require learning shortcuts. Over all, I find the process / workflow easier on the MPC, the sounds are better on the Maschine+, just keep in mind, you will have to remove FX to keep the CPU use down.

[@AccurateBeats]

Yeah, thats right. The browsing, tagging and sorting of samples and presets is great on Maschine for sure!

[@nickgilday8946]

I love watching unbiased reviews/comparisons. I think this is a fair look at the options an appreciate the insight. I started with MPC studio and for me the workflow of Maschine just clicked. I have always been more of a tactile knob twister, pad hitter type of person so the maschine giving you more of that always worked best for me. I have talked to people who think im crazy for saying the NI workflow is better too haha. It's all about personal opinion.... I will say that I get very frustrated with what feels like very little updates from NI outside of stability and compatibility. Auto sampler is something MPC has had for some time, and the most recent update (which you talked about) of automatically providing bpm and scale of samples, along with the serato sampler style of synced time stretch etc.. NI needs to step up to the plate there. They have the technology to do it.

[@AccurateBeats]

Thank you! :D Yeah, everyone is different and works in different ways. I'm glad you found what works for you! Sure, NI should have the technology since the Traktor software has it but I guess it's easier said than done to actually implement it in Maschine :P Making a video like this is tricky since the software keeps getting updated. I just hope I'm able to help anyone! Thanks for the support! :D

[@WarrenPostma]

I just bought an Maschine MK3 and for me it was a far better choice than any hardware groove box out there. It's a hardware groove box in every way except that I can't take it anywhere away from the laptop which sits near it. I don't actually use the laptop screen much except for naming things and saving things. It's also great to have my favorite VSTs and a far more powerful CPU than the atom in the MASCHINE+. If a Maschine+ edition with a built in battery existed and if it had a decent AMD APU instead of the Atom in it in a future iteration of the hardware, I would totally consider maschine +.

[@cresshead]

A Superb, Fair overview and Accurate! I can only say that my MPC One has been a great productive addition for me. i've never tried a Maschine+ but neither i'm looking over my shoulder with envy at one either.. pretty happy with what i have here. looking forward to a sp404 vs video!

[@1G0R16]

Also using ONE, when + came out i was envy a lil bit, but i have NI plugins so i would have only standalone NI with + and im not pro with maschine skills so im happy one user :3

[@AccurateBeats]

Thank you! I love still seeing you around here :D For sure! If the MPC One is the right now for you - I wish you the best possible future together! It's great when people finds what works for them :D

[@fredicagoillanoise1309]

I love my MPC One but since acquiring a Maschine Plus and upgrading from the MK2, I've really enjoyed the standalone Maschine Plus. I haven't had any problems with CPU overload because I always delete all of the unused pads in the groups. Haven't had any probs with the system crashing or anything. It's a rock solid machine that could be better but I enjoy it for what it is.

[@christophetof9808]

j'ai une mashine plus ,j'ai voulu changer car j'etais sur MPC live .de tres loin MPC est au dessus jamais eu de bug , mashine c'est bc trop de fois que ca bug.perso je vais me remettre sur akai force

[@TheNathtube]

I've just pulled the trigger on the mpc one retro can't wait to get hold of it, thanks for all the great vids on the one.

[@otobotrecords]

It's a fantastic unit. Don't forget to add a suiting power bank to it.

[@JEFFMAN90]

When I first started making beats 5 years ago I was a big Maschine head but once I tried out the MPC it was a wrap. Making beats on the MPC felt way more comfortable to me then both Maschine and any other DAWS out there. To me the MPC Live 2 is the best choice out 3 here.

[@AccurateBeats]

That's cool to hear! Thanks for sharing

[@justinorndorff2754]

always great. love your content. I've been thinking about getting a machine +. I've been an MPC user for 10_ years and I love my MPC live, I started out with an MPC2000XL and I miss it because I knew that thing inside and out. But the newer MPC line is hard to beat. much love my G!

[@warnutztheloser]

Did u get a mashine? How is it. Am 15+ yrs dedicated MPC user myself too

[@tntshuffle-9799]

I can tell you I loved Maschine. I was able to make beats very quickly becaus of the work flow. Once you get the hang of it, it's easy to lay down drums and samples quickly. After about 5 years with it, I gave my Maschine MKI to a family member hoping to upgrade to the Maschine +. Now I'm interested in the new MPC One +. It looks fire and I like to try new equipment/ tools. Can't beat the price of the MPC + either!

[@FluoLente]

I had an MPC Live 2, the internal audio device constantly failed, crashing the device. It also then wouldn't power back on for an hour or two. Sadly had to return it and I've been afraid to take a shot at another one. The device seemed awesome but my experience was the worst I've had in a while with any device.

[@maz_amor]

Hi thanks! could you tell me for you wich one would works better for live performance , using it also as an interface with a microphone for vocals , with Ableton live , and with an Arturia minilab.??

[@SaulHoodman]

I have not been able to get my maschine mk2 system to work as a controller in FL studio. Do i need to get the newer maschine controllers? the software uses way more AI machine learning compared to the mk2 system

[@salix5380]

I love the MPC one because the workflow is fast and the Price is good.

[@Bigheadedwon]

When it came out 2 years ago it was $699. It's had 2 $100 price increases since. That's a huge jump. NOTE: I bought one literally 2 days after the 2nd $100 price hike.

[@jaxhulme]

I really am stuck between MPC Live II / one or the maschine+ I watched hours of reviews yesterday. What would you say is best for me if I want to make house music where I can play live and it's easy to edit and take a kick or chord out for example live like the DJs 1000 pioneer standalone sampler, the workflow that's easy to use and access and not too complicated to look at. I want something that helps with chord progressions that automatically tell me what's in key and the right scale. I had the Aki midi keyboard and I found it hard to link up channels and buttons etc from that the MPC software to pads etc and it scared me away from using it. Would really appreciate the help thanks

[@dustyrhodes1655]

MPC user here(currently Live 2) and very happy with it but the Maschine + looks like a great tool as well. I've had to fight the gear lust in getting one because I still after years and years haven't learned everything MPCs offer and it would be counterproductive for me personally.

[@AccurateBeats]

Makes total sense. Sometimes sticking with what you got is the best and most productive solution. :D

[@ejilla04]

Great viewpoint! I have the MPC One retro that I grabbed last October due to my MPC touch just not working with new operating systems on Mac. I have had my NI Mk3 for years. Love them both. i just don’t see a need for me to have two standalone units

[@AccurateBeats]

That’s a totally valid point!

[@centr0]

Which has bigger pads? MPC ONE or the Maschine MK3?

[@ickebins6948]

I bought a MPC Live II 2 years ago and I just cant get comfortable with the workflow at all... ( Maybe I'm not oldschool enough ) I see the potential and the technical aspect but its just not for me somehow. It is sitting here, collecting dust since last year. I'm using Ableton with push2 now and its a whole different experience. It just makes more sense for me. Glad people can enjoy different stuff. Keep it up Accurate!

[@parismusic3590]

I have MPC L2 a month ago and I am about to release my third beat album. Never used it before. However, I am very comfortable. I prefer it over Logic and Fl studio. DAW are not the best way, they are demanding in terms of CPU.

[@joshuagardner894]

If it helps, a track is the raw MIDI data (the "sheet music" if you will), a program is the instrument playing the MIDI data. This way, you can write a track and merely change the program to have a different instrument play that track. This one subtle explanation helped me immensely for understanding the MPC.

[@ickebins6948]

@@joshuagardner894 Thanks for the help. Maybe I should explain it another way: I can make music with the MPC just fine BUT i can't enjoy the process. I'm not trying to make money with music, its my hobby and I'm just not having alot of fun doing it with the MPC. As I said, its a great machine and has all the features one could ask for.

[@ickebins6948]

@@parismusic3590 The MPC is still a "PC" running a daw. There is nothing analog in it. It's a great piece of hardware but its not for me.

[@parismusic3590]

@@ickebins6948 I agree. Use the outputs to make it analog by routing it to your interface. You don't enjoy the MPC probably because you are not a sample based producer. Working with samples is way eazy than you can thing, another thing is the drums. Putting drums together is more fun in the MPC. Please don't leave the MPC, it is really a fun machine.

[@ambrushadam]

I love my MPC Live II and my Maschine Mk3. One for standalone and one for going crazy with plugins and effects.

[@AccurateBeats]

That's a great way to think about it!

[@ambrushadam]

@Accurate Beats I actually made two videos about this topic so I have thought about it a lot 😂 Check them out if you want! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGTUlqCBqJJ4bJY

[@parismusic3590]

Some people doesn't even have studio monitors. They should go for the MPC LIVE 2. I have it and I love it.

[@AccurateBeats]

That’s also a thing!

[@ralphkaysse5182]

hello, thank you for your video, I see that you use Maschine and MPC but do you use them both together in your creative process? because I have been using Maschine mk3 for 3 years inside Ableton and recently I bought an MPC ONE+ except I am working on improving my musical creation or production process and until now I have not yet found the good workflow. so can you help me with some little advice please?

[@ernestm8884]

I have an MPK MK3 and just the Machine the MPC live II has caught my eye so that may be next . I have purchased the MPC DAW and use both the MPC beats as well. I am trying Komplete start with my MPK mini MK3 but I'm running into some user issues at the moment.

[@MakingMadBeats]

Hey Accurate! I got a question hooking up my Maschine MK3 with the Roland SP 404 MK2 which is about to arrive in a couple of days. I understand that it would be very easy to set it up with Maschine+ just by using an USB -C to A cable out of the SP 404 MK2 into the USB hub of the Maschine +. Then select the SP' s audio interface in Maschine+ settings. So, you can Sample/resample between the both devices. But how would I do this to sample resample between the Maschine MK3 and the SP404 MK2? I do not use Maschine MK3' s bulit-in interface. I use my Focusrite Clarett+ 8pre with Maschine. THX 🙏!

[@CharlieYsasi]

This has been pretty much the best comparison, honestly. I’ve been really interested in getting one. I’m just curious about proyect management for live performance. Let’s say I’ve produced about 10 tracks and I want to go dawless… which one would be the right one to load independent projects if needed? I’ve used a Maschine Mikro for years and i love the workflow but I’ve never seen someone talk about this 🤔 maybe the sp404 could be the right one for loading whole tracks and adding Fx and stuff live?

[@AccurateBeats]

This depends a lot on what you mean by “loads projects”. Loading up the different projects files and jump between beats like that actually doesn’t work on any of them. Importing finished wag-files and trigger them would work perfectly on both of them though. I’ve used both Maschine+ and the MPC one for live setups like that together with an SP404. The touchscreen on the MPC is pretty cool for adding effects on the fly but the touch strip on M+ is also pretty fun. But sure… Just an SP would pretty much do the same job all in itself :)

[@CharlieYsasi]

@@AccurateBeats man, this is exactly the type of answer I’ve been looking for! Thanks a lot! I guess it is now up to looking the better tool for me and what I wanna do

[@AccurateBeats]

@@CharlieYsasi I’m just glad to help!

[@jonathansoko1085]

The MPC one is the greatest solo beat box ever created. Why don't i say the Live2? Because of price, you are off, here in America the One is 699$. (Not 900$) and for 699$ it does everything, literally. I cant believe there exist a beat machine that is capable of doing everything under the sun, at that price. That is hwy i have to give it the nod as the best beat machine ever made. For 700$ you can have an entire studio in a box that can record your entire album as its a multi track recorder, sample and make every beat, mix and master and set up complete live performances. Its mind blowing when you think about it really.

[@abuwabu]

A plus for the MPC range that no-one mentions in these reviews is the quality of the analogue output. It sounds great.

[@yungjetski2751]

Plus filters pertaining to older models!! The MPC sounds really really good

[@jamwithjason3112]

could you elaborate on that? I am trying to make a decision on which to buy. I have played with maschine befure, but always thought the beat sounded quiet flat, vs the videos i see on youtube. Is it just that the MPC samples hit harder or is it because something to do with MPC itself? Does the MPC also have latency advantage?

[@yungjetski2751]

@@jamwithjason3112 There is no latency problem that i’ve noticed. And they’re both great IMO, it all just comes down to how gritty you want your samples. I personally think the MPC does better with distortion and filtering but the maschine could be entirely capable of doing the same. The MPC one is killer though, i’ve only had minor crashing problems whenever bouncing from project to project.

[@abuwabu]

@@jamwithjason3112 There are too many variables to determine why a beat on YT sounds a bit flat and lifeless. You can make great music with either one, so don't sweat it too much. I personally prefer the workflow and interface of the Maschines (I really don't like touch screens); but the actual analogue outs of the MPCs (when you take a physical cable from an output and plug it directly into a mixer or your audio interface) sound great. If you drive it a little bit you get that gritty, crunchy AKAI sound. The audio interface on the Maschine MK3 is pretty average. I can't speak for the Maschine + because I haven't tried it; but I don't think they changed it. Of course you can use either one as a plugin and not use the audio interface at all. Depends what you're after.

[@onebluntman10]

@@jamwithjason3112 MPCs always have a a bigger output. The sounds that come out of an MPC is larger boomier and fatter. It’s analog vs digital and while people think analog doesn’t matter it’s always gonna be a fatter sound then digital that’s why the maschine beats sound “flat”

[@5starstudiomedia]

I have both and found Maschine's workflow so much easier to learn as many of the functions are logical and the MPC One not so logical. The MPC ONE has a huge learning curve and it took me months to learn just the basics on the MPC One compared to Maschine. I find also the touch screen on the MPC ONE clunky and slow especially when selecting, erasing or making precise changes, whereas its so much more precise and faster on Maschine using the knobs and buttons. I would definitely choose Maschine if you are just starting out as it's way easier to learn than the MPC.

[@vaiman7777]

Disagree, Maschine is very confusing for beginners. I get people constantly asking me for help. I agree the screen has it flaws, but it’s still better than my Maschine. Try getting a beginner to fire 3 external hardware synths via Maschine. MPC, it’s all on one screen.

[@DeathBlackWish]

​@@vaiman7777 I've literally never had anyone be confused on how to do things in maschine once they understand how scenes and patterns work. Lots of people get really confused by MPC though.

[@vaiman7777]

@@DeathBlackWish Ask them to control an external synth via Maschine. And yes, “once they understand” It’s just not intuitive software.

[@jimharris6389]

Everyone talks about the differing workflows between the MPCs and Maschine ... without actually explaining the differences in detail 😊. I'm still none the wiser. Any clues or good links?

[@new.romance999]

The MPC is more one thing at the time, more "menu" driven, less playable. For me the maschine felt like an instrument and not just a machine. The workflow is very good. For example to go more in detail, if you are live jamming and want to mute the kick in the maschine, you hold mute and select the pad, in the mpc you have to go the "Pad Mute" menu.

[@JohnMark61355]

Thanks for,the video. I quickly reviewed the manual for the Machine+, so I may have missed this, but it does not appear that it has a multitrack recorder function like the MPC. I play actual instruments and would like to record multiple tracks without having a second piece of gear. Did I miss something; does the Machine+ have a multitrack recording function? Than you.

[@AccurateBeats]

Thanks! What you're talking about is 100% doable in Maschine too in a couple to ways... I normally record that type of audio in loop mode, in sync with the sequencer and then convert the sample to an audio track in Maschine... That way it loops on beat and just works. You can also record audio as sample and trigger it as a one-shot in the sequence but I find that to be less intuitive. I don't think NI calls this multitrack recording but that's essentialy what it is :D

[@JohnMark61355]

@@AccurateBeats Thank you!

[@MeerkatMuzic]

Good comparison review. Hope we see some good updates or competition this year.

[@AccurateBeats]

Thank you! I couldn’t agree more :)

[@justszpaq]

I have an mpc studio2 and I love it. I don't understand how people mooning about it. It's so easy to use and makes it complete solution for everyone...

[@apoclypse]

I just got the Maschine Plus second hand. I was a hardcore day one MK1 user but moved to the MPC about 3-4 years ago. Both are good devices. I would say Maschine has an edge in terms of samples but luckily my MPC has an SSD and I can just drop all those sounds right on the drive and use them on the MPC. I can say that on the plus it’s concerning to see 30-40% cpu usage with jus a few groups loaded. I can fill up a whole drum group with many of the pads having effects and the MPC barely breaks a sweat. I also found it concerning that the plus did a hard reset two minutes after first booting it up for my first project.

[@owlmuso]

Thanks for your review. I feel like if you are going to say that one's choice between these units "depends on the work flow" then you should say a lot more about the actual work flow as I am really none the wiser as to what would suit me based on the workflow. Anyway, thanks for the overview

[@kierenmoore3236]

Are the Mk3 pads every bit as good/sensitive as the + pads? If so, as a total noob not bothered about about portability at this stage, I’m thinking of trying out both the MPC One and a Mk3 as I can, and deciding from there … ?!

[@fabiancortes6255]

Yep ,very mature points of view ,i don't think i couldn't explain this machines better than you did.

[@marianmusic7221]

I owned Maschine MK3 (not Maschine+) and I have something to say about it. The "Step" sequencer on Maschine MK3 is not working the way it should - it jumps over the first beat (it is not playing it), when that first beat is drawed with the pencil inside the Maschine software next to the left locator (inside the loop zone) in Cubase Pro 11. The problem was first reported on the Native Instruments forums in 2015/2016. In 2021 the problem was still there. The NI forum admins deleted my post reporting the bug. The NI support team was not helpful at all - after contacting them I was told that they will come back with an email to me - now is one year later and I still did not received an answer. I had to send the unit back and asked for the money back. Maschine MK3 is a very nice piece of gear and a very good system to work in, and I would chose it over the Akai MPC. Unfortunately that bug (somewhere in its firmware or in the Maschine software - it seems to me that it has something to do with the way the Maschine software interacts with the DAW) made it useless for me. And it seems the problem is so deep that they cannot fix it without a big investment - an investment which they do not want to make. I know that this video is more about the Maschine+, which is a standalone unit and it probably does not have that problem. But I just wanted to talk about my experience with the NI Maschine system. I know nothing about the Akai MPC.

[@AccurateBeats]

Oh! And This is specifically a problem with Cubase? I’m afraid I haven’t used cubase for many years but this definitely sounds frustrating and I totally see how it’s not working out for you… Thanks for sharing this though!

[@marianmusic7221]

@@AccurateBeats Thanks for replying. I have checked out with the Steinberg (Cubase) support team and they have said the problem does not lie on their side. I kindly asked both teams to get in contact with eachother and to work together to solve the problem, but got no answer on that. The fact that the NI forum admins and the NI technical support team were very repulsive, and the fact that there are posts reporting the problem lying on the NI forum since so many years, with no helpful answer, made me think that the problem is on the NI side. Beside the above mentioned problem, the audio output knob on the back of the Maschine mk3 seemed faulty (turning it up just a few degrees would raise the volume from 0 to 100%, and the rest of the travel was doing nothing). As the time in which I could return the unit was limited, and as the NI representative did not replied (as promised), I had to return it. It's a pity because I liked the Maschine mk3 in every other way. But I bought it mostly for adding beats on the fly using the "Step" function. I already had a midi keyboard which also has 16 pads that i can use for the other purposes. There were no good reasons to keep the Maschine mk3 if I could not use it.

[@GearAddict90210]

I bought a used MPC One for monetary reasons. My only gripe with it are the stiff pads and double triggers, otherwise it's pretty amazing what you get. I wish it had a favorite system for effects, it's a bit tedious to browse every time. 1st world problem though. I do believe the sounds and synths of the Maschine are better and more up my alley though and I believe I like the Maschine workflow better, but for now I will just stick with what I have.

[@snotnosedpunk7995]

Really workflow is the biggest difference. The 80's workflow that's been grandfather by the MPC line can be a little difficult for modern producers to understand (Sequence, Track, Program). But the MPC offers more at that price point in terms of hardware specs and stuff like Stem Seperation.

[@noahwaiwaiole7888]

Am I able to keep my expansion packs for machine on an external hard drive? If so, I think the MK3 may be a better option, for me.

[@Schemez-16vhiphopbeatz]

I was a first time mpc user a week ago and iv basically mastered the workflow already I find it easy to use I came from a circuit rhythm before that so that is a really fast workflow but the mpc is alot easier then I thought it was gonna be

[@DavidGarcia5300]

great video! I would love your opinion on any of the beat making software on iPads.

[@OperculumAudio]

Yo Accurate, thanks for coming through earlier to the live stream. I had actually watched your channel in the past, and when you came into Ave's Live Stream, I was like....that name sounds familiar. And then I looked at your channel and I was like, Oooh yeah I know this dude! Lol, good to meet you man. Cya around the community

[@madwax4771]

Accurate and Cooking Soul = Best hiphop beatmaking channels

[@ivan_kodolov]

Hey Accurate! Are there any sonically differences between Akai and Maschine to your taste? I have the Maschine Plus too and there are MPC 60 and SP 1200 emulations (I guess they are MPC 60 and SP 1200). So do the Akai still have the iconic sound of their earlier MPC's? I guess there might be some emulations too. What do you think?

[@AccurateBeats]

Well… i might be wrong here but I’ve never found the emulations to make an important enough difference to be useful for real. I find the (new) MPCs to have a slightly warmer or softer sound than Maschine+ but the difference is barely noticeable. The classic mpcs like my mpc2000XL definitely has a lot more of a character to its sound.

[@ameeromedia5883]

For me, After about less than an hour of use and a few quick KZbin videos, I was able to make full compositions using the MPC live 2. I was not a former MPC user. Maschine products to me are just way more difficult to learn and work around.

[@coldskoolbeatz]

Native Instruments, period.

[@ameeromedia5883]

@@coldskoolbeatz nope lol.

[@tonyjackson5261]

Hey Accurate, Question, do you know if the MPC Touch works with 2.10? Is anybody you know rocking MPC-Beat and a Touch?

[@AccurateBeats]

Oh, thats a good question! I've never had the MPC Touch but my guess is that it should work to at least some extent with 2.10. Sorry I don't have a better answer for this

[@BuleriaChk]

One can easily use a battery pack with Maschine+ (or a Ripcord from MyVolts) The Maschine+ can also be used as a controller for Maschine on the PC (you just need a sound card). So no need for a Mk3 except, of course, price.... If you want clip launch, you can use a Maschine Jam.

[@johnnieray2423]

Posting this a year later I have the maschine mk3 and just got the live 2.. portability hands down live 2 but maschine mk3 or maschine+ Has better sounds and expansions and instruments. I'm struggling to get any great sounds for my live so I'm gonna start convert maschine expansions thanks to ave macree tutorial for on the go but in the studio mk3 with komplete is my go to One nice thing I just fig out is I can open maschine 2 software in mpc software and use both maschine mk3 and mpc live 2 together

[@GrootsieTheDog]

Just picked up the One SE Gold version (beautifully pimped out look imo). Feel like I’m swimming in the dark right now. Any good suggestions for tutorials? Thanks!

[@MH_79]

I had both, but sold them. MPC Workflow is really special and not what i expected. For me it was very hard to get familiar with it. Maschine+ is really a dream when it comes to Workflow and intuitive Usability, but it has so big stability Problems, that's not acceptable for this Price class. The CPU is always at the Limit and it doesn't run simultaneously with other devices. I tried many Devices, and kept a MC 707, for me the perfect Device. Hope the SP 404 comes soon...

[@AccurateBeats]

Interesting stuff! The MC-707 is great in many ways but I personally find the sampling a bit more difficult on the 707 compared to these ones. People seem to have very different experiences with the CPU on Maschine+ but I see how it can be an issue for some users. The SP404MKII is also a great device that I tend to use a lot too! Thanks for sharing :D

[@MH_79]

Yes, it depends on what you want to do with it. In my Case, i wanted a well working Hybrid Setup (Live/DJ) for EDM Style Music. I have Ableton on Track 8 and 7 Tracks to play around. For Example Track One is filled just with Kickdrums, Track 2 is filled with the Basic Percussion, Claps, Snares, Hi Hats. Track 3 and 4 are filled with extra percussive One Shots. Track 5,6 and 7 are Tone tracks filled with Basslines, Synths etc. It has perfect Interaction and is very good synced. And i'm totally mobil with everything, cause it fits very well in my Army Backpack, the 707 and the Push 2 are running with a Powerbank and the Tablet runs easy for 5 - 6 Hours, enough to have Fun all Night. Tried this with the Maschine+ and it sucked so badly. The MPC One could handle it, i think but with just the 4 Knobs, there's not enough Interaction and as i told, the whole Workflow /Interface is just not designed for this Purpose. In your Case, when you're just fokused on one Song theese two Devices should do the Job. Btw, i tried the AKAI Force also, but it was to big for my Backpack 😊.

[@SticksAandstonesBozo]

I’ve owned numerous mpcs since about 95’. I keep trying and I never learn …. I can not stand the workflow. I don’t think I’ll ever grasp the programs , tracks , etc and the way you build actual songs with that. It’s better these days but it just makes no sense to me why they are the ONLY manufacturers/ developers that do it that way.

[@Th3rdFloor]

Perfectly executed in comparison as everything comes down to individual preference and workflow. Now that for me is the clear winner! Well done accurate for your totally unbiased opinion and input,,great video!!!

[@AccurateBeats]

Thank you! ❤️

[@producedbykemp691]

At the end of the day native has a way better instrument library and sounds too. Its just flawless.

[@matthewgaines10]

As always the case, what is “best” ultimately depends on who “you” are, what you’re making, and how you work. There is no best but what works best for you.

[@cbanks7840]

All I can say is ...Maschine is more fun and MPC One is not as fun. Just saying...I own both, bought both at the same time and learned faster on Machine. I thought I'd love my MPC better but Maschine was just way more fun to learn

[@siccavicca]

My bro .. great clip ,, I agree with most of what you’ve said but ..er. THE MOC LIVE 2 is the only 1 of the 3 that would work on that is And you mentioned ..”I’m just saying fam ..it’s love lol!!”

[@TonyFlorean]

Look forward to working with you 🔥

[@MusicWizard85]

Cool comparison video. This helped me make a decision.

[@camilosanchez24]

Hey mate ! Great video and interesting point of view. I would like to ask you something. What about the Elektron Octatrack MKii ? I saw you don't have a video of it, but maybe you can give me a guidance about what could be best if a Machine Plus/MPC live or Electron Octatrack Mkii bearing in mind sounds, workflow and live performance ! Cheers.

[@KnowledgeOfSelf144]

As far as “modern” drum machines the only thing comparable to the Live 2 is the X however you can definitely get some funk out of the maschine no biased Also I do like the dedicated buttons on the MPC One better but PERSONALLY I like to go crazy so I need full sized pads Lastly I like the drum packs a little better in maschine and they also win in user/daw friendly over the mpcs so I all boils down to individual production and what you’re most comfortable with 💯💪🏾✊🏾

[@semyonboyk0]

6:07 what lol? When was NI working "kinda hard" on their updates? All they do for the past couple years is releasing 50$ sample packs one after one. I used to be a hardcore Maschine fan for almost a decade, but they clearly abandoned it feature-wise. Akai on the other hand is king when it comes to providing free updates, they brought new gen of MPCs from excellent level on release to godlike as of now.

[@k00k]

I have the Maschine, Ableton Push, and have owned many MPCs over the years (I actually used to work at Akai). The problem I'm having nowadays is that I work more in the DAW than standalone and the integration of these devices into DAWs never feels quite right. I understand the technical limitations of using the corresponding VST, and I'm not quite sure how to solve the problem.

[@sibagiba]

After using M+ for 2 weeks, im disappointed as I feel its not that different than the MK3 from what Is Saw aside from being standalone. Im considering changing to Alia again as i started with akai S950 in ‘94. Maschine updates have lagging and they havent come out with anew Masch since hmm 4 years. They seem more interested in in dev the Pay series and Kontakt rather than keeping the Masch up to date. Sad but reality. Maybe its time for a change. Wha5 would you suggest? I know you video is a year old but maybe today, you have more insight

[@nk-me2nw]

I found maschine more suitable to write full tracks, use clips and arrange complete end product, akai is fun to make loops and perform, it is also great that akai is supporting their product much more dedicated and pack their stuff with new features which maschine lacks. I think that either is great for music production, just invest your time to digest and study your hardware

[@MiketheNerdRanger]

Haven't used them, but by the looks, the Maschine's workflow seems to click with me just in concept alone. I'll be trying that first.

[@pierrefitch]

Wow how you like the maschine mk3 compare to MPC one ?? Can they work together

[@hattoom]

BEST COMPARISON VIDEO!!!!!! Thank you so much for ur work 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@AccurateBeats]

Thank you Hatim!

[@SonicVibe]

I have the MPC One and love it just saying lol

[@sisonkemanentsa5153]

Awesome video accurate, just a minor correction on the IO, maschine can only do 4 stereo in and 8 stereo out whilst MPC is 32 mono/ 16 stereo in and out. That’s the limit with the external sound card.

[@AccurateBeats]

Awesome correction! Thank you

[@BubbaSatori]

Which one is better? Both. Have the mk3 and the Live 2. Mk3 for the desk and Live 2 for it’s portability, io and touch screen.

[@AccurateBeats]

They're both really great! No doubt :D

[@dannykirsch]

Which has better sounding swing? Mpc or maschine?

[@grdalenoort]

i bought a used Live MK1 (no need for speakers now) and then with an entry level USB midi-keyboard you have a nice setup to begin and to try out.

[@mrrafsk]

Chopping, stability, midi flexibility: MPC every time. Synth & fx complexity, song structuring and expansions… M+ Neither has trigs/modulation/scale transposition as a live midi filter like deluge/elektrons for jamming.

[@AccurateBeats]

Good to hear that I’m not the only one that sees the duality of this :) Thanks for watching

[@CamelJoebo]

Thanks for this, appreciate the useful feedback!

[@tobiaslofi]

Just got an email from AIR (the company that made all the instruments &Synths for MPC) they are releasing them all as VSTs for any DAW!! Hype Synth, Bassline, Vacuum, Mellotron, …. Ca $79 each.

[@AccurateBeats]

Yeah, thats right! I'll check them out too and it'll be great to have access to the same stuff in the daw for sure

[@tobiaslofi]

@@AccurateBeats I didn’t know for sure that it was AIR that made the synths for MPC but that’s great. AIR are the ones that made “all the best synths in the world” for ProTools. I’ve heard that “they might not strike you as the best sound on their own but they sound great in a mix/song” that heritage is what explains why MPCs sound good and possibly better faster than Maschine and other DAWs where the sounds/VSTs are from many different companies and don’t always easily fit together. So I’ve observed at least.

[@JustDanielSon]

where can i buy your beats? r u not on beatstars? or airbit?

[@AccurateBeats]

Hi. I actually don’t sell beats right now. I have a few projects in the works and might think about doing something like that later. Thanks!

[@AJWise]

If Akai were to put a battery in the MPC One, that would push the price up closer to the Live and would basically be competing against themselves. MPC One was $700 before recent inflation. I bought one used recently for $600. It is perfect how it is for the price.

[@AccurateBeats]

That makes a lot of sense!

[@otobotrecords]

Add a suiting power bank. Cheaper, more portable and with more dedicated buttons than the Live. And it doesn't have that dreaded soft touch finish.

[@athanasiosxirogiannis9468]

Can you plug a power bank into mpc one and work wireless?

[@AccurateBeats]

Yupp. It depends on the power bank but I run it just fine with an old Omnicharge 20+

[@athanasiosxirogiannis9468]

@@AccurateBeats Thank you so much! I think a minimum 36w PowerBank would be working perfectly!

[@sedwords]

Do not buy the MPC if you plan of working with audio tracks. It's got a bug that makes it super tedious. The bug is that when you are looping a section of an audio track and laying down drums, then when you move the loop to the next section the UI zooms all the way out. So then you have to zoom all the way back in to where you were working. It's SOOOO frustrating. I gave up on it. I don't use the MPC anymore and went back to Ableton. Also, it wont let you continuously overdub on an audio track. The recording stops as soon as it gets to the end of the loop. ( At least the Maschine has its 'take' mode which looks wonderful.) The built in drums samples are pretty bad. Hardly any of them sound like real drums. The Bassline synth is awful. None of the presets sound like a real bass guitar. I work with off rhythm audio tracks that this awesome blues guitarist sends to me to put drums on but the MPC is so bad that it's just unusable for my workflow. I was thinking of buying a Maschine but I'm not sure it can loop over any arbitrary section of an audio track while I lay down beats. I have not seen a convincing demo.

[@MagnificentMercer]

MPC X My favorite so far.

[@gutaninblanco]

Im on maschine mk2 and still satisfied, waiting for mk4 but honestly I could stay on mk2 for life it does everything I want.

[@AccurateBeats]

Yeah, I love that! If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it :)

[@larrytan73]

your preferences is money! What fucks up this generations online beat community are the influencers! money!

[@fraicheness]

Uhhh, it‘s so difficult to decide!!! I have a Kontrol S4 Mk3 controller (with F1) and thinking about incorporating a Maschine Mk3 into the already existing Kontrol DJing/remixing on the spot workflow. Then again, I don’t wanna sit even more in front of the PC all day and I loooove the showcasing of the Live 2 in yours and Ricky Tinez‘ videos. My DAW is Reason, which would go great with creating samples for further manipulation and sequencing on the MPC.

[@babysunn2]

I Just Wish Somebody Who Has The Experience Working With Them Both Would Have The Balls To Choose One... Every Time I Watch This Type Of Comparison, The Host Says "It Depends On Your Preference... WE ALREADY KNOW THAT, We Expect For The HOST To Decide Because That's What Our Expectation IS... We Know The Pro's And Con's Of Them Both By Now... BUT IF YOU WERE FORCED TO USE ONE FOR A WHOLE YEAR and Not Use Anything Else, WHICH ONE WOULD IT BE? That's is What We Wanna Hear The Answer To. However It was a Very Informative Tutorial.

[@AccurateBeats]

Personally: Mpc One. (Right now)

[@babysunn2]

@@AccurateBeats Thanks For That, Much Appreciated... Now A Harder Choice... The Live 2 Or Machine Plus❓ For A Year Straight, Inquiring Minds Wanna Know😁

[@AccurateBeats]

In that case I might actually pick Maschine+

[@babysunn2]

@@AccurateBeats Thanks For That... I Believe That's The Kind Of Breakdown Your Subscriber's Would Want To Hear. AWESOME!

[@sftraxx]

After owning a MPC Live 2 and a Maschine MK3 i gotta say that I agree. I think both product lines are excellent and are very capable of producing full polished songs. It really does come down to workflow preference. Here's the truth: Regardless of which one you buy you are really only limited by your own creativity ✨️ 👌 😉 💯

[@AccurateBeats]

Hear hear! Thats exactly how I feel about them too and why this video was a bit tricky to put together :P Thanks for watching :D

[@TwinCitiesOxygen]

Which is easier and more intuitive if you just want to focus on simple sampling. Or a better way of saying it is which one is more immediate?

[@sftraxx]

@@TwinCitiesOxygen From my experience the MPC line is better at sampling and sample manipulation.

[@JackAcid]

Had both, but let the Akai go because I could not get my head around the workflow. Just my two cents.

[@ventactics]

Good comparison, answers all my questions except feel.. are you German Irish? Your accent caught my ear

[@synkuk]

and what you think of the force these days ?

[@rafsanrahi2469]

Mpc one + MPK mini mk3+ iPad Pro 2021 + M50x = Dream come tru!

[@davidscott2095]

Fantastic video, Accurate. Blessings!