MASSIVE BUFFS and NERFS in Season 13 Change Everything

[@crustychildren]

Devs are 100% support players

[@gio4931]

The coddling of support players is fucking unreal

[@scuzzyuk412]

oh no, poor moira lost 25 HP, if only she had a healing orb, life steal on damage and an ult that pierces barriers and a healing passive as well as invincibility frames that allow her to escape any bad situation, guess we need more life steal

[@Dj360Judgement]

Primarily moira mains

[@Lúci-o-ohs]

And dva

[@thenewmissinglink8501]

The Lifeweaver grip buff and Kiriko suzu buffs drove me crazy. And I play those two often. And the Moira thing- like why the hail would they do that.

[@rizaadon]

DRAGONSTRIKE DESTROYS BUILDABLE OBJECTS LETS GOOOOO 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@emperortime2356]

Indirect bap nerf which is good.

[@SellingPotatoess]

So now it takes 4 blade swings to kill one moira? Good shit blizzard

[@AbbyOW2]

Support power creep , damage and healing numbers on that role going up in these past few patches is UNREAL, LMAO.

[@ecclecticsayonce5131]

Moira changes make me wanna cry

[@evelynnleague2232]

​@@ecclecticsayonce5131 why she was bad

[@waterrr6332]

Excuse me but Kiri on the weaker side of supports they said?????? Wtf

[@ecclecticsayonce5131]

@@evelynnleague2232 no she’s always so so good for no reason

[@evelynnleague2232]

@@ecclecticsayonce5131 you don't know how to counter her. She's already so squishy

[@zoomerplayz6764]

Its so hilarious how they dont even give a reason for buffing ana. They just said "eh lets push her past her threshold." Why cant they do the same for heroes like genji who actually struggle to exist by themselves?

[@Mikuroko69]

With 6v6 coming and dragonstrike destroying deployable objects shows that the Devs are taking sam's suggestions into consideration. Love him or hate him, you gotta respect his takes like how the dev team does.

[@lordraiyon3589]

I remember when moira's mythical skin came out, they buffed her range, then I think her damage, then her ulti, and now this, really? Moira is incredibly easy to play,it has a lot of survival and you don't have to aim lol

[@relomen8711]

Whos Genji anyway? -ow2 developers (those never went past plat themselves so they never saw that hero in their matches)

[@charlieheppe3172]

Dude that Moira buff was so unnecessary she’s already so annoying in low ranks

[@Llian_C]

yeah, I feel the fun part of her kit is her mobility fading into and out of the fight. I'd much rather they reduce her self healing significantly and then give her something like increaced damage/'headshot' damage alongside some range fall off.

[@charlieheppe3172]

@ yea I wouldn’t be opposed to there being more skill expression like a headshot or something in exchange for self healing

[@gio4931]

Dude they can’t go more than 2 patches without buffing Moira. I love how they literally admitted that Moira was doing fine yet they give her this buff

[@mr.miscellaneous9144]

Can we just move Moira to dps already? She's not a support, she's a better reaper at this point it's ridiculous

[@ltsReallyHim]

Silver?

[@alexthegod5307]

Since when?? Her damage is just numbers. You also seem to completely ignore Zen and Bap who have way stronger burst damage. Her healing is also really good

[@LoveItems-uk7jj]

@@alexthegod5307 life stealing makes her damage too strong because she can live longer. for now, you can't kill moira as tracer even if you get a good aim.

[@alexthegod5307]

@@LoveItems-uk7jj this is just blatantly false. Moira is useless and Tracer is really strong. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

[@alakzam22]

Sombra got a sneaky undocumented buff where she can ping targets visible with her passive through walls again and can see enemy health bars as long as they have take a single point of damage ( the way opportunist used to work). Definitely a very small change but is quite useful in solo queue.

[@PunchM3]

the support buffs are getting a little obsessive, its already difficult to kill enemies in the current state due to sustain unless you 1 shot or play ash. Everything else is welcomed in my opinion.

[@Peraliq]

Solider will become weaker each support buff patch

[@DarthCookieOW]

Ana buff is very good. Juno nerf is good. Kiri should've just gotten Kunai buffed. Moira should not have been buffed AT ALL, same as Lifeweaver.

[@waterrr6332]

@@DarthCookieOW Kiri should not have been buffed at all. She's already an insane character

[@DarthCookieOW]

@@waterrr6332 IMO you need to differentiate between how unfun it is playing vs Kiri and her objective strength. She's tied with Ana for the 3rd worst winrate Support and since she's one of the harder heroes to play properly, I'd say a slight buff was warranted. Like I said, the Kunai buff (which actually just reverts a nerf she's gotten) would've been enough. I don't like that both her unfun denial-abilities got a CD buff at the same time. I fear we're in for another Mauga Kiri meta, tbh. No one likes that

[@waterrr6332]

@@DarthCookieOW Kunai buff is fine. The Suzu/Tp buff just made me tear my fucking brains out. Hot take: Mauga buffs are fine unless they do smth start buffing Cardiac and his Damage against Tanks.

[@Chara1726]

I'm in ow classic 24/7. i genuinely do not care about 5v5 role queue. im having fun instead

[@Sukarettoroz]

Another patch dragon blade goes untouched sad times

[@jbeers8408]

I think dragon blade is pretty healthy, It can't just be an instant win button. I still get 3-4 kills occasionally

[@dyaoansdcooper8993]

@@jbeers8408 said no one ever genji more untouched than a nun in a church...

[@jbeers8408]

​@@dyaoansdcooper8993 There is a reason he is untouched, because he's not bad

[@Sukarettoroz]

@jbeers8408 what is your rank cause if it's beyond plat oml im surprised

[@Sukarettoroz]

@@dyaoansdcooper8993 i think dude smoking dik cause to say genji is good is an insane thing to say

[@ecclecticsayonce5131]

WHY ARE YOU BUFFING MOIRA😭😭😭😭😭

[@LeatherNinja]

Moira gets a micro buff like every patch for literally no reason

[@lordraiyon3589]

They increased it's self heal 25%

[@rayman964]

they're re**rded thats why. Dont worry 23 days more and u can have fun there, trust.

[@waterrr6332]

@@LeatherNinja Orisa cycle, but with Moira

[@Krisp8008]

They tried to distract us from this abysmal patch with classic overwatch and it’s lowkey working

[@Real_Nutella]

Giga buff to Kiriko is actually insane. She's already so strong and has been strong

[@arathoras12]

Why are they giving even more life leech for Moira? That's the worst part of her kit when people don't have perfect aim. Assassin Moira is already almost impossible to duel when you are a lower rank player (vast majority of players) and Moira is in every match there because she is so extremely survivable.

[@XxDream_CasterxX]

Lifeweaver he shoudnt be able to pull anyone out of mauga ult. Makes no sense. You're chained in that ult. Don't know why no one is talking about how dumb that is.

[@evelynnleague2232]

Why not? He should be able to pull anyone🥰

[@alexthegod5307]

Are you really suggesting another Mauga buff?

[@kyubbikcat2281]

Nerf Kiriko challenge: impossible

[@josephrarn3174]

She got a few nerfs the past couple months right?

[@kyubbikcat2281]

@ And they just got pretty much reverted now and she got some compensation buffs along the way too.

[@waterrr6332]

@@josephrarn3174 The Tp, Suzu cooldown and Kunai recovery cooldown got reverted all because she lost 25 hp. These devs bro🤦

[@nullnull629]

Moira power creep is crazy, first damage buff now self heal. Wow

[@AnimeOtaku56.]

Doom needed the ult charge buff.

[@pokemonzr]

Did not expect star rail music here

[@jacobbaartz7710]

As a hanzo hater - or moreso the one taps - why did dragon strike not already destroy buildables?

[@mikelmariscal2591]

Because for the longest time, they said that it “couldn’t harm things that don’t have souls” in other words. They just didn’t want it to until now 🙄

[@jacobbaartz7710]

@mikelmariscal2591 wow, that's retarded

[@ryankelly7070]

Still nothing on Widow

[@TooMuch_Luffy]

As a wise man said "Fire them"

[@Deimos_OW]

It’s like they know how to balance DPS but as soon as they touch Tanks and Supports…

[@LeatherNinja]

Lifeweaver, Kiri and Moira buffs are just so stupid

[@sawtuthe9670]

I’m calling it right now, mauga buffed, Orisa recently nerfed, Ana and kiri buffs, junkrat nerfs… Mauga is getting the mythic next season… not that I want it, but I’m calling it right now…

[@-Stinky_Pinky]

Klay’s return to Golden State tonight.

[@imjustken1]

Ong

[@its-tinyavocado]

FFFINALY they buff Ana, there's no way I hit pepega Pharah 3 times and don't finish her.

[@Slimskyyy]

Bro I never knew Hanzo couldn't destroy buildable objects, who in their right mind thought that was a good idea? I don't play him but I'm happy to see Hanzo getting some love.

[@aynojs]

Surely super tanks won't exist when the 6v6 playtest is out

[@Beanigez]

Power creep, and still keeping Genni in the gutter

[@Yshtola.]

Kiriko-chan is back baby

[@353darkesthour]

Buffing kiri is crazy but god bless the hanzo change

[@UTgohan]

As a tracer main I don’t think hanzo needs any buffs

[@Garry-y7b]

Tracer: good luck carrying if you’re under a masters level player. Sombra: Mafia hit and run. Genji: long forgotten, rip. Any dive tank: countered after one fight and there on useless. The devs: let’s just let Widow run rampant to make people realize that 5v5 isn’t really better than 6v6. I gotta say this might actually be a team 4 W.

[@Anonymous-lv4di]

NOO QUEEN NERFS

[@adore945]

Does hanzo ult break bao lamp?

[@jacobkelly1653]

OVERWATCH CLASSIC IS PEAK

[@nicolasnagato3181]

RIP Reaper mains, RIP Healer Moira and Hello Trollwatch.

[@Naianasha]

The patch does nothing. lol State of the game is still unplayable in this format. Counting the days til 6v6.

[@Cjkhaled]

revert s9 health, game gets better

[@Tatsu4242]

No meaningful Genji buffs or patch not mentions since season 1. Season 9 doesn’t count bc it did not do anything for Genji.

[@BoiSoi313]

Honestly, idc about this patch, the 6v6 is so fucking fun. I cant stop playing it. I would ask them to put role lock though, and limit characters to one per person, and add ana to the support roster. Also they didnt bring back og numbani, route 76, or Gibraltar. They tried to sneak the new maps under our noses. Its 100 times better than the 5v5 crap. Played rein zarya for like 10 ganes it was so fun! Tanks can actually die, and the teamwork is back!

[@UTgohan]

Can anyone tell me why does tracer feel so good in classic but not as good in 5v5 im a low rank btw so maybe im missing something

[@Chilltime4]

They nerfed her butt ….

[@sxphxn6224]

buff moira but keep genji unchanged YEP

[@Kungfupabda]

When is this coming

[@greenpig1175]

No widow nerfs

[@itsali654]

The dragon strike ult has to be cause they watched your video Sam no way they do it just cause and they fixed his bow draw time

[@Tayate_]

Honkai SR music?!?

[@ilyesb95]

They nerfed my main :(

[@jakubpiotrowicz7872]

Which one? Junkrat? Reaper? Jq?

[@ilyesb95]

​@@jakubpiotrowicz7872 Reaper 😢

[@ilyesb95]

He's already struggling against super tank its not fair

[@jakubpiotrowicz7872]

@@ilyesb95 i'm sorry to hear that:( tbh I like reaper but I suck as him. He was balanced imo

[@ilyesb95]

​@@jakubpiotrowicz7872 he is my main since day one and the best balance change i can imagine is reducing life steal BUT giving him damage reduction during is ult

[@mutab790]

Just buff dps passive and make it dependent on the heroes mobility instead of nerfing their hp for example kiri and tracer receive 25% instead of 20% where heroes like ana receive 20% or less Revert s9 Delete 5 or 4 of the tank passives Delete widow And there u have it fun overwatch No need to buff support abilities or buff tanks or power creep every role

[@bennettstokes195]

Finally agree with Sam it was over all a good change nervous about tracer mostly

[@Cykoflame00]

And still no genji buffs 🤣

[@drewc8052]

No soldier buffs lmaooooooo

[@englesh]

us soldier players staying in the slums of high masters/low gm but atleast we got a mythic skin now i guess

[@evelynnleague2232]

Soldier doesn't need any buffs

[@drewc8052]

@@evelynnleague2232 bro

[@listamon]

@@evelynnleague2232name a worse Dps

[@waterrr6332]

@@evelynnleague2232 He does

[@CtrlAltDeliciousGaming]

they ONLY made 5v5 cuz queue times were long and 5v5 added literally NOTHING else positive to the game

[@thewolfenknight37]

Cant wait for genji buffs, any day now

[@scuzzyuk412]

moira gets an ult dmg buff followed by a life steal buff, whos the bronze moira main at blizzard pushing for these buffs? im so bored of these low skill high reward heroes

[@ytcmbt2505]

Season 13 is easily one of the most fun OW2 seasons. And this patch is 🗿 Ngl blizzard IS COOKING atm. Its rly fun atm

[@RayBcv1030]

THEY DIDNT NERF WIDOW BRUH COME ON ALSO IN WHAT UNIVERSE IS KIRIKO UNDERPERFORMING?!?!?!?!

[@MissImpolite]

The only support thing I heavily dislike is suzu cooldown buff 😂

[@teethpastaa]

Yeah ive been playing kiri recently and i thought she was fine. Her damage is utterly absurd, really unnecessary change’s considering how busted her primary fire is now. We do more damage on headshot then we did when we had an increased headshot multiplier, but also do extra damage on body. Hopefully it gets reverted.

[@professordantehs]

Doom did not need that fkn buff

[@matheus_brunelli]

Reasonable opinions on the patch notes, actually

[@brtt150]

Side note but the new Illari skin is cute as heck.

[@tswrangle1000]

Y'all GONE feel this buff

[@tswrangle1000]

Doom's.

[@novastone4000]

did not expect hsr music here, also plz nerf widod

[@allbadtakes]

That other guy with his untimely interruptions showed that you shouldn't stream when grouped. Annoying af.

[@zairvix]

Classic HSR music

[@zetten4109]

I don’t know why they don’t add 6v6 back holy shit

[@gobgrem777]

They probably will sometime soon.

[@sortascouseace]

They are testing it next season

[@axelmogr]

nerfing juno is crazy. shes always the 1st to go down in a team fight and the falloff on her primary is huge + she cant hit headshots gonna have to get better at ana

[@JC-dc7eb]

Juno is the best support in the game, honestly sounds like a you problem.

[@alexthegod5307]

No she definitely needed to be nerfed

[@Thegoddeer]

5v5 not out???? I thought ow classic comes out 12th

[@Thegoddeer]

6v6*

[@ciach0_]

it's out, but only as an arcade mode

[@spyrx6590]

Why junk just why

[@yoku_UwU]

Moira micro buff again. Say hello to support orisa

[@GAVIN760101]

Thise patch may bring me bakc to ow

[@Fixer48]

They are lucky im enjoying og overwatch rn

[@zepaie69420]

No one cares, Overwatch classic only relevant thing in the game now.

[@ghoulbuster1]

None of this matters because 6v6 soon.

[@Themanwithscoobysnacks]

Just put lw damage up tbh

[@hillwoop9101]

Why are they buffing these supports?????? (Except Ana we love Ana)

[@shaneh3109]

Soilder is trash rn and so is sombra. What about genji?

[@aaronwoodhead8771]

Yet again no changes to the worst dps in the game by far, rip ever having fun on genji

[@Levi_LS]

Great so supports can just out heal dps. Nothing is killable. Widow is a mist picl to kill things, lol. Right back to where they were not long ago

[@halilozturk1223]

At this point…. just delete genji…..

[@lordraiyon3589]

Genji is relatively decent, needs a little buff, but I don't understand why they buff characters that reward you for just pressing 2 clicks like moira and not like genji that requires a certain level to start having value.

[@Mitchel6489]

As a tracer main YES! It still sucks that 90% of the ow2 maps are just big lanes, so tracer kind of poo poo no fun on them. Edit: I feel bad for the losers commenting on this. They're so worthless in their life, they gotta make things up to argue just to feel like they matter in some small way on the internet. Edit 2: i will say the maps I'm referring to aren't the newer game mode ones or the latest push map.

[@ducky350]

Tracer has never not been meta. If ur struggling on her that’s a you problem

[@baileyskates]

Yeah...every map has good flanks for tracer if you know how to path. She is also the best 1v1 duelist in the game

[@TR-ju5re]

Actually meta since day 1 to today but she "poop"😂

[@emerywoods624]

You're gonna get torn up for this view 💀 I'm sorry broski

[@Peraliq]

Tracer has never been bad …

[@Alrdy_Gone]

Useless patch waste hire the whole development team 😂😂😂

[@ctrainish]

Rip junkrat. No combo still is absolutely ridiculous. This hero bias is crazy. Can’t wait for 6v6. Where all these stupid changes get reverted. It’s just another patch where the devs show They’re totally incompetence and they’re complete biased towards certain heroes. What they’re doing with Hanzo shows hope but not much…

[@chops_chops]

How does Junkrat receive a nerf where a hero like Tracer gets a buff?! And Widow is just unchanged 🤦

[@waterrr6332]

@@chops_chops Junk nerf because of, according to their dev comment, the mine combo in the same patch where Kiri gets gigabuffed for losing 25 hp like it's difficult to stay alive on Kiri🤦

[@ctrainish]

@@waterrr6332 oh… my… God…. Holy shit I can’t believe I didn’t think about this. Bro you’re so right. They actually only nerfed junk for kiri. We’ll step aside all other characters I hated before because now kiri is definitely king. This stupid fucking poster child of a character has to be the best and top preforming character other wise they won’t sell skins. #6v6 is the answers to all the problems

[@steve-o3431]

ANA buff lesss goooo

[@TaOPyr]

Doom is broken. Cant wait to unistall this game in few weeks.

[@alexthegod5307]

He is not broken at all

[@wrath98]

ANA BUFF LFG!!!

[@ItachiUchiha-dh3jh]

OW classic has reminded me of how great it is when supports like brig, moira, and basically all the dlc supports aren't in the game. Then, they continue to buff these cancerous supports that kill the game and make me want to play it even less.

[@RkH1st]

yawn

[@llllllllllllllIIlIllIIllIIIIll]

Love u

[@HasturBeta]

Calling it now, season 14 mythic skin for tracer! Venture: "Buuut but...I thought I wa- SHUT UP, YOU

[@sahaakhiyat3703]

Every time when I see desreved Hanzo buffs I want to say to devs "Finally good job". Then I see support buffs and the most heinous thing - Moira buffs. They will never learn. Devs are definitely Moira mains

[@waterrr6332]

I went to the Tank patch notes and was like, nerfing JQ? Ok? No Orisa nerf. Then went to Dps and was like, ok they kinda cooked then Support... A Kiri compensation buff for losing 25 hp and a Moira compensation buff for losing 25 hp. They throw out this shit like its not hard to die on these heroes

[@JC-dc7eb]

Moira is the perfect character for bad players to blend in on the scoreboard. Literally turn your brain off, and profit. She sucks the skill out of the game.

[@TooMuch_Luffy]

They're also the same mf's that be glazing their own stats and shit talk the dps. Most/Majority of Moira elims are literally just assist by them just holding trigger or right click.

[@lev1eye]

@@TooMuch_LuffyIm saying bro. I can literally play her with my eyes closed

[@willfox6223]

first comment much love

[@assassith]

And Reaper is back at the bottom of the dumpster again. Less health, less life-steal, less damage, still slow, still telegraphed. Oh, but at least his spread angle is better so he can kill people better by... 1m... oh that's not right, it's that he can kill people better by 1m _within_ _10m_ . Oh wait, it's not actually better either, they just reverted it to what it was pre-OW2, before they gutted him for working to well with a passive that no longer exists.

[@alicenull807]

I honestly don't get the doom ult buff. I already felt like i always had it. Pretty much a OH NO I'M ABOUT TO DIE > Q > Kill someone and at full hp again. Also buffing kiri... big oof