Massive NEW Class Changes 11.0.5 Update

[@Halfhaphazard]

bro what the hell are they doing with resto shaman LMAO.

[@cptboomfist8436]

due to high end pve idiots they lost their marbles and they reached the point where they thing ever role and spec is a dps there is no other explanation

[@Macklawry7]

Also reverting shamans into no kill classes. They can't get it right

[@benworkman831]

@@Macklawry7ele will still be good

[@TheFringless]

I try to play rsham at >2k in both 2s and 3s. %85 of the teams insta declines me. Rest is accepting it because their CR are 100-150 lower than mine. They are still not buffing this fuckin spec

[@HKono_]

Resto shaman is a great healer you’re just bad

[@ermonddreamwalker]

Imagine if Khadgar had these arcane buffs before meeting Xal'atath

[@SleepySoviet]

Should have just rerolled frost

[@memofreire]

tf is a xaltalath?

[@StevieCoupons]

Can you start linked the page you read this off of please

[@Nemenon]

The rsham buffs are so hilariously baffling. Do they want us to use NS on lava burst now? I mean sure unleash lava burst cast into NS lava burst can maybe do some pump but that feels like an awful idea lol.

[@89mso]

I like how they buff a couple holy priest heals by 25% then go and buffs a few classes pretty massively, pretty sure it’s a wash then because all holy priest healing is through put no damage mitigation

[@nickdeagle3271]

Thanks supa.

[@cdot_thecoach]

I'm so glad I got hooked on WindWalker and got one fully geared. This is gonna be fun next week lmao

[@Kronosbattlemaps]

No bm nerfs is insane. Watch out for ww though

[@rabee53]

@@Kronosbattlemaps bm got a bunch of nerfs last week.

[@kevincollins7411]

@@rabee53not enough tbh

[@petermartinson5483]

​@@rabee53 Not even close to enough, they're still the most broken DPS spec by far.

[@rabee53]

@@petermartinson5483 The design is flawed its not bm that is the problem its dark ranger. Black arrow replaces kill shot now and they get a talent that lets them use it on high health targets. In arena everyones health is high. I realize they were trying to slim down button bloat so they combined the abilities but this the kind of stuff that happens.

[@paulrichter1846]

bm is fine.... wtf.... all crying while a class do much dmg... and dont know what is the thing of dmg... they must do CONSISTENT high dmg... Affli, Unholy, BM.... they must do on long games MOST DMG

[@KJwess]

WW finally S tier again

[@Bacon-egg-cheese]

Man I wish I had your optimism.

[@HKono_]

@@Bacon-egg-cheese stop being bad and you’ll realise

[@enzo-gj4cr]

S tier clownnn

[@KJwess]

@@enzo-gj4cr s tier 100%

[@enzo-gj4cr]

@@KJwess Lmaooo you don't play WW 100% the buff on monk are only 4-5% and you think it's gonna go D tier to S funny

[@OWlsfordshire]

Is 12% dmg buff for 2 spells really enough for frost dk? Those spells were already hitting for nothing, so 12% boost will be almost nothing.

[@TheKourage88]

They nerfed them by %15 before, back when Frost was bad. Now it's going to buff them to back when they were bad. So they will still be bad.

[@Kanoog]

NOPE. It isn't. That's like asking for a raise and your boss hands you bag of returnable cans. "well, it's a raise isn't it?" Like $9 in returns.

[@rabee53]

I just did a BG Blitz on my frost dk avg obliterate hits 347,993 +12% = 389,752 avg obliterate crits 792,779 +12% = 887,912 avg frost strike hits 525,066 +12% = 588,073 avg frost strike crits 976,592 +12% = 1,093,783 I stack haste instead of mastery so these hits could easily be a lot higher. I'm also not running shattering blade. These buffs are very substantial and needed I'm happy to see them. The avg Frost Strike crits are a little abnormally high I was getting very lucky with the crits when my burst was up but in any case, 12% is still welcoming.

[@JasperDc90]

@@TheKourage88 it was UNholy that was nerfed by 15%. this buff for frost is pve only

[@Dodgeheat]

@@JasperDc90the buff for frost is for both pve and pvp, it would say doesn’t apply to PvP if it didn’t work in pvp

[@lucassoares6802]

3:30 looks like a big deal, since crits affect combo point generation. It might increase the stat value of crit rating

[@Segamain21]

Yet another patch where balance heals are not being looked at. Gotta love regrowth healing for 1/20 of your health and frenzy still being forced to sit bear for 6 seconds doing no damage and getting all the heath you gained dropped by melee sitting on you.

[@Adjust91]

WW mains rise up!!

[@JDMluvDSMkila]

Maybe i can finally get invited to mythic+ on my ww monk 😂

[@ROrneli]

the main issue with our class is that we are basically fill ins since we dont provide much to the team in terms of synergy, our additional melee damage buff to targets is laughable, the movement speed is negligible , no one is ever going to say "hey lets bring that WW monk so we can move 2% faster" the main reason to bring a ww monk is because we self heal and help with heal but compare to enhancement shaman that can heal about 30 %of what the healer can heal at all times while doing dps and brings lust , or a paladin with a combat res or a warrior with battle shout or a dk with another combat res, in the end we are fill ins like the demon hunters , so you will get invited only if they have lust and combat res already filled in. WW needs to bring in something to the team that is more valuable than dps (that until now it was mid at best) such as a 10% dodge buff to the team or 15% movement speed when out of combat ..

[@AsianAmerican113]

What do you expect? In high keys it’s about survival and what you bring to help that out. It’s wxCtly why Aug is still in the meta.

[@jcvm8915]

All this time for those buffs on dhs? no way

[@brandenlolwtf6682]

They are decent. Damage isint the big issue with Dh imo.

[@crizzleyo815]

@@brandenlolwtf6682 so if damage isnt the issue, but they only increased some passive damage slightly, how are those decent buffs?

[@jcvm8915]

@@brandenlolwtf6682 true

[@1refi]

stop buffing feral druid ffs. it's the best melee in pvp. and still it gets buffs thst go through to pvp

[@Senpaisoldier]

Crazy it’s not getting more nerfs, let alone a slight buff. Crazy

[@pxkdrake]

The only buff was a slight increase to apex predator, which who knows how much it is. Tbh ferals haven't scared me for a long time now, I've experienced classes like shaman doing much more damage in my games, literally killing people in a global or two while feral usually has to ramp up damage with bleeds and only really gets scary if you don't react at all or into dampening.

[@matts7125]

Idk if it will still be best after the ww buff

[@tony9526]

Yeah feral has been my kill targets in SS for a while. It's really strong when people know what they're doing but all classes are...flavor of the month re rollers get ran over lol

[@HKono_]

@@pxkdrake you’re unaware of this but you’re self reporting yourself for playing in low rating. High rated ferals take over with cc and top dmg

[@jimmy8693]

Do they look at healer win rates, participation etc in PvP ? How do they not know Rdruid needs help

[@TheFringless]

Rsham is way worse than rdru. And they buffed Rsham damage LUL

[@HKono_]

@@TheFringless holy cope you’re delusional

[@jimmy8693]

@ they’re clueless

[@crownless4925]

No Feral nerfs is absolutely insane

[@alexhtx8932]

As a WW i do really well in solo shuffles, im not sure if these buffs are a good thing

[@squareshock17]

Love your vids bro. Not sure if ele got buffed or nerfed. However I hit a 2.3mil ES crit this morning and it felt really good so it was sad to see a 15% nerf 😅

[@WisdoomOperational]

ye ok, 12% on frost strike and OBlit.. most likely will still be a fringe spec due to gameplay constrictions but at least we get to feel better about it i still wait for a rework of Frost strike.. give it additional functionality, stacking a dot or a chance for extra burst.. Death coil is superior spell pound for pound in every way, ranged, massive dmg aswell, and multifunctional with healing baked into it.. Frost stike needs some extra mechanic

[@CharCharTV]

Havoc DH needs defensive buffs

[@danedilrlsbx]

I think the damage from this seasson is already very high. And now they will only buff damage... Will the healers be able to heal?

[@dunmer2947]

Yeah didn’t they say something about making pvp healing less frantic this expansion? whatever happened to that?

[@pxkdrake]

Healers have been getting buffs as well though. It was just last pass I believe that disc priest got 15-20% buffs on some of its core healing skills, and it was already one of the strongest healers. They keep buffing druid incrementally and monk as well. I just don't ever want to see them nerfing healers going forward only buffing those that need it

[@JamesDeanoli]

healing is cancer in higher-rated matches, especially blitz.

[@a.a.6464]

Healer is for ppl who wants to destroy their healthy mind 😂

[@GsxrNYX]

They already can't. The skill cap on healers has been raised so high because of all the massive bursty damage that the average healer is dogshit. 1 mistake and every one is dead. Esp in 3v3 combat. Healers need some attention in pvp to be more competitive.

[@attackogaming]

DH changes are basically 0.3% meaningless change lmao cant wait to pad pets more

[@olsonbrandon91]

omg.. I came here to see us FINALLY get the love we deserve.. you're kidding me? well here I go..

[@rabee53]

@@olsonbrandon91 If they buff the spenders, they will just have to nerf them next patch more than likely Havoc's problem right now is it needs more mastery that's it. Once it gets that it's going to start demolishing people. So, they just buffed the builders since their damage is on the lower side as it is. The immolation aura buff could be substantial if you do a build will all the talents for it actually.

[@Kanoog]

@@rabee53 People just have to wait and see how it will play out, but yes it can be a lot of damage because it all adds up fast for DH. Eventually with all of these baby buffs DH will be back..... Hopefully before next season.

[@rabee53]

@@Kanoog At the end of DF I was sitting at 118% mastery. Right now, I'm full mastery stacked and only sitting at 44%. That's like 70% more damage we can gain through the course of the expansion. Think of it like this both Frost dk and Havoc dh get 0.01% more damage for 3 mastery rating atm. Except havoc's mastery increases all of its damage not just it's frost damage. So, it's easy to say Havoc will out scale Frost.

[@baboonman846]

25% to swiftmend isnt going to save resto druid. The spec itself is just trash

[@estebanslavidastic4382]

If swiftmend hit main target + 4 lowest health targets in a 40 yard range, got its cd lowered by 40%, then rDruid would become viable. ATM it’s so fuckn clunky and gcd clogged.

[@magdabrownis265]

I just tried out frost last week. Seems like crazy burst already. Let me get that 12%

[@ogJbizz]

the survival nerfs are a little baffling. What were there like 10 people abusing the possibly strong spec? Can they let the spec be good for like 2 weeks before nerfing it?

[@youngcheesy1765]

Fire mage seriously need help!! For a iconic pvp special it's been awful for 3 years now.

[@TheGorgoth]

true

[@marcelgaming1381]

RIP my idea of an Earthen Prot Paladin. Not grinding one anymore after the nerfs.

[@arleybonin]

Man I was really hoping they would help boomy survivability, especially in arena

[@drewwil891]

This is why I’m playing classic. Can’t do this BS anymore with retail. So tired of it

[@vincenthammons-kd9du]

blood needs a little more base mitigation imo without always relying on cooldowns tired of giving my healers heart attacks

[@Dan-jo3gr]

The self heal reduce that they made for tanks with start of the add-on should be removed again !

[@pubadubgthreemeninatree8596]

so do the deathbringer buffs impact frost dk as well even though it just says for blood?

[@cpt.fantasma3459]

Damn, took a huge shit on survival hunters. The only decently balanced spec hunters have

[@rabee53]

Lightning strike is already hitting 400k non crits for Fury 50% buff is going to be legit.

[@adamstratton683]

Damn no warlock notes

[@rodrigofreitas1316]

I cant believe they are actually buffing fdk for once

[@Millirawk]

It's shocking to see indeed, now they're tied with blood DK!

[@rabee53]

Not really a buff I would say it was more of an un nerf in pvp since they already nerfed obliterate by 20% like 2 months ago. With all these frost strike buffs a mastery dual wield build might start taking over for pvp.

[@JasperDc90]

Frost buff is pve i believe

[@rabee53]

@@JasperDc90 If it doesn't say. Does not apply to PvP combat after the change it applies to PvP as well.

[@AlexTorres-yk9si]

Dude shut up no one cares

[@fitnrescue]

Rdruid buffs are SHIT. We dont play wildstacker so useless. And swiftmend is used more to trigger soul of the forest/extends hots than to heal, in some situation u will swiftmend people being max HP (extend hots before cc chain)

[@blankspace4358]

People talking like DH is unplayable. I’m top damage 95% of my ss rounds and climbed to rival casually

[@brandenlolwtf6682]

I agree with you 100%. We're rarely the main target (which we should be in some cases) but my damage seems absurd in most if not all SS lobbys minus triple caster.

[@Kanoog]

Padded damage from AoE cleave, killing is a whore. Climbing to Rival doesn't mean shit because at higher ranks DH's are EASILY exploited.

[@Toadiferous]

What I think it's saying for the Dance of the Wind talent is that it starts at 2% and stacks to 10%, so at max stack it matches what used to be the base dodge chance prior to the nerf? Either way, even if it still stacks to 10, that's a massive nerf (10% baseline increasing to 100%, down to 2% baseline stacking to 20%). Still a dumbass mechanic for PvP to have RNG dodges at all, but hopefully this guts it enough that it's not worth taking. And please apply it to MW too.

[@Armageddoniton]

Half of those pvp only buffs are needed in pve, for DH and Marksmen for example

[@JasperDc90]

when is this hittin?

[@Senpaisoldier]

No hunter nerfs and a mild feral buff is insane

[@TheRealFlacus]

hunter has gotten nerfed practically every week wym lmao

[@eugenesternin6039]

@@TheRealFlacusnot bm

[@a.a.6464]

#buffbm #buffSV #buffMM

[@Senpaisoldier]

@@TheRealFlacus BM needs lots more nerfs

[@Senpaisoldier]

@@a.a.6464 you’re bad if you think Hunter needs buffs lol

[@jays1109]

Thank you for the buffs supatease

[@Manafeststudio]

Glad I quit a while back. Don't miss game breaking weekly class tuning.

[@JamesDeanoli]

WW monk is going to be a monster and best 1v1 spec by far.

[@rpgking92]

so devastation evokler specifically flameshaper is fine right? feel like devastation evoker has just been forgotten for a while now.

[@eltonazevedo1361]

what you want? spamming 1 button all day and killing shit with 1 million burst is not enough??🤣🤦‍♂️

[@rpgking92]

@@eltonazevedo1361 ahh yes i havent heard that one before how original, the old "uighh one button" excuse for everything.

[@mysticalgames3]

CAN I USE CLOTH ON MY DK BCS ITS MATCH THE POOR RESISTENCE WE HAVE SO THIS CAN BE ANY ULTILITY

[@Mr0sevy1000]

these changes make no sense to me, dmg is already so high that most healers are no viable in arena, they dont reduce any dmg whatsoever and even buff moree classes like ww with more dmg. They realy dont want to have any other healer then pala and priest in arena

[@FormoraDreamleaf]

Blizz remembered hpriest exists. I cant believe it

[@Dark_Tesla]

Assassination not getting nerfed is crazy to me because we’re not allowed to be even marginally passable in any content. I’m scared.

[@captainwhatthefuck2405]

Buffed or nerfed?

[@Eliteninja007]

Cool, now 1million non crit aimed shots incoming even on plate….

[@paulo8301]

Just noticed that they don't want balance shit. They just break it in cycles and this is pathetic.

[@Okenpo]

Enhance spenders nerfed another 8%? Well it’s been fun

[@Skafiskafnjak2276]

DH buffs still not enough.

[@gtheory350]

Some of these changes (frost dk, fie mage) are totally warranted but some of these other ones are totally fried 😂😂😂

[@Halfhaphazard]

the resto shaman one is so fried, couldnt believe it.

[@seko6193]

pyroblast crits in combust for 400-500k . In non combust it crits for 200-300k …… wtf and then only 8% buff to pyroblast is a joke again . Ignite ticks for 90-105k in combust. In non combust between 8-30k 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 . This class is so undertuned as hell 😂. I mean ice Lance , lavaburst, starsurge, shadowbolt… every spell in this game critting way harder then pyro 👍🏻

[@july5345]

Those Fire buffs are almost useless. Nothing matters until I see a 30% buff to pyroblast.

[@rabee53]

Those fire buffs are massive I'm already doing almost 1.5 million dmg with Meteor comet storm this buff is going to put it well over 2 million and it will be up more often. They can't buff Pyroblast by 30% without nerfing ignite significantly.

[@eliotness107]

Brewmaster rework please???

[@vittoriolepre9604]

Another week no resto druid serious buff, swiftmend buff is almost a joke

[@lafunk1978]

Every fire mage buff he is like..... Its gonna be fire mage season...... It never happens....

[@ZHAN_MYTHOLOGY]

8% for fire mage that's all I hear.. Thanks Blizzard really.. *_*

[@titfortatpeterpan]

25% hpriest?wtf blizz now at the end of the season i know why i am quit this game thx blizz to proof me right what a mess

[@laurence2174]

nothing for evokers huh

[@BreakingChad3]

Fun fact WW monk is 9th in sustain and 10th in burst damage in 3v3, in shuffle they are 8th in sustain and 7th in burst damage sure glad they are getting massive buffs.. The next FOTM reroll has been announced.

[@dobro5958]

40-60% RSK buff on top and we will probably go to low A tier. But yeah, its a good start. Pretty happy tbh.

[@ddgddfdbdsgfdf2137]

Nice clickbait, i thought rdruid would get some real buffs.

[@jbooth8380]

bro frost dk finna be nasty finally :D

[@paulrichter1846]

WE WANT AUGMENTATION BUFFS

[@EthCepher]

Holy priest needs a major rework. Priest class needs some kind of greater mobility ability. #slug class

[@vaylox09]

Im tired af of wow pvp they couldnt balance themselves out of a paper bag.

[@bravos2709]

WTF, already OP in pvp feral gets buffs but arcane mage which suck atm got few buffs but at same time nerfs (which is again fck all buff as its just shifting damage from place A to B), seems like blizz really say: sorry arcane mage, B tier is max y can think of in PVP, S and A tier are already packed, maybe in next expansion, seeee yaaa (...)

[@pxkdrake]

What buffs did feral get? I don't see them ...

[@bigboytoma]

Those demon hunter buffs and monk buffs are guna be wild in pvp, already they both hit like a truck GG ppl beware

[@L_Jefe]

DH buffs are nothing..

[@bigboytoma]

@L_Jefe you know nothing john snow

[@L_Jefe]

2% dmg buff on ur pad dmg isn't changing DH's issues you Lannister copemonger 😂😂😂

[@bigboytoma]

What issues? 😅

[@huntercs2131]

help fire mage..... 200-500k crits is god awful

[@blankspace4358]

500k crits that are spammable are not god awful by any means you troll 😂

[@blankspace4358]

Fire mage best mage spec by a mile

[@HKono_]

@@blankspace4358 weakest bait I’ve seen

[@seko6193]

For better explanation: pyroblast crits in combust for 400-500k . In non combust it crits for 200-300k …… wtf and then only 8% buff to pyroblast is a joke again . Ignite ticks for 900-105k in combust. In non combust between 8-30k 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 . This class is so undertuned as hell 😂. I mean ice Lance , lavaburst, starsurge, shadowbolt… every spell in this game critting way harder then pyro 👍🏻

[@hermit44]

Only 7 healing specs and blizz can't even Balance them in PvP. What the hell....

[@drewwil891]

They can they just won’t. They want to keep the players “hooked” and “hopeful” which is why I switched to classsic.

[@plague6174]

@@drewwil891 Right there with you homie

[@DaltonBrewer]

The new meta is playing classic

[@Kanoog]

Why the hell would people play that dead shit again? Classic is easy as hell even on HC, redundant as hell unless you are Xaryu who gets paid to do the same content making up shit like "I'm a Barbarian SPEC! I'm a Warrior who can't wear a chest piece" digging deep for content.

[@jameskim1505]

​@@Kanoogcalm down homie

[@chrisk1458]

​@@Kanoogbecause its the real wow and obviously the better game overall. Yes the classes dont have complicated rotas and spamming globals BUT each class is unique, is needed and you really feel like playing a MMORPG. Retail is a waiting simulator, PvP also isnt fun anymore, gear is meaningless, mounts, skins are meaningless. Classic and hardcore are not for me too, because blizzard sucks so much horsedixk and i rather play on turtle wow. Classic + is what people want. As a PvP only game wow doesnt work. Play battlerite instead

[@felixhaehl9618]

Classic straight up more fun. No weird grinding high keys and arenas. Just log in and enjoy.

[@HKono_]

@@chrisk1458 turtle wow and battle rite 😂 jeez you’re lost

[@colbyflores4244]

Why does blizzard suck at their job so bad

[@scottycrawfs3007]

blizz couldnt balence a fkn game if their life depended on it every 2nd week they are changing something

[@viberaider6852]

Hell yeah! Ww buffs!

[@KJwess]

Thank the wow gods

[@viberaider6852]

Ron Weasley dropped a good video covering the ww buffs, there not that big 😢 like 15% to rsk in PvP would have been prime

[@KJwess]

@@viberaider6852 its enough to put them on the map again

[@viberaider6852]

@@KJwess yeah true enough, didn't realize how low the bonus conduit sustain dmg was until I watched the video 🤣 I thought those bonus strikes were doing something decent

[@itsbalang1659]

Holy priest buffs finally… will it be enough

[@mattfg1168]

For sure enough. Holy wasnt even that bad tbh, its just that people tend to play whats trendy.

[@itsbalang1659]

@ the ladder doesn’t agree with that nor does the awc tournament it’s undertuned and garbage especially without mastery in early seasons

[@HKono_]

@@itsbalang1659 you’re very clearly awful and no buffs to any spec you play will change that

[@mattfg1168]

@@itsbalang1659 yea but ladder is biased bro, as i said people play whats trendy and what streamers play

[@itsbalang1659]

@ I dont wanna drag an when the best players and me as Mglad Hpri think holy is almost unplayable atm but I respect your thoughts have a good day mate

[@Bacon-egg-cheese]

Lmao he thinks bok is gonna be bm bugged damage levels of crazy from those buffs xD Never fails.

[@internetxuserx9780]

the buffs unholy got dont do anything to get this trash spec out of the gutter....

[@MrZeuz666]

Ele changes are Pepega. For PvE and PvP. Buffing the hero tree no one wants to play for PvE and nerfing burst in PvP so we’re just back to negative kill power. 🤡

[@pelican6178]

0 changes to bm hunter.... I srs starting to lose hope in the devs. What a complete joke. The game is truly doomed

[@lokeyodinson8749]

Good stuff

[@Mathias-vi3gf]

Wtf thet can’t let those WW buffs go live in pvp…

[@pxkdrake]

They will just like they let the shaman changes go through and they still haven't fully reverted them. Shaman still flying under the radar doing absolutely disgusting damage. Monk will be the same if I'd have to guess.

[@dobro5958]

Why? WW is in top 3 worst PVP specs in 3v3/shuffle in the game and doesn't even have another DPS spec. In BG blitz its completely unplayable. So, please, elaborate.

[@chris92like1]

Buffing every spec but rog what the heck 😂 at this Point just remove rog from game and give feral druid vanish and Insta clone oh and dont forget smokebomb and duel im sure u guys giving it to feral anyway they Need more buffs

[@MrJeremydb91]

Monk!

[@johnwelch9661]

Ele changes seem dogshit. It’s so fun rn why change it for pet damage and take away the big earth shocks?

[@mellowoutt500]

Nice

[@balelitas]

🙌

[@vex2538]

frostfire frostfire frostfire frostfire

[@thomasoberst7550]

Some of the worst pvp balance in wow history smh...

[@HKono_]

So you started playing 1 week ago, nice

[@thomasoberst7550]

@@HKono_ No I have been playing for a very long time. That's why I know this is some of the worst pvp balancing we have ever had. Even shadowlands wasn't this stupid. Honestly you are just making it look like you are the one that just started playing.

[@ElevatedLevetator]

Link? Cant find

[@Nakerox-st7fk]

New Meta : auto-attack Demon Hunter will be a thing guys

[@Kingkongmental]

Yeah auto attacks going from 1% of your damage to 1.1% of your damage is gonna be game changing

[@OWlsfordshire]

Ele will be really bad in shuffle now. They will rely on heavy dampening.

[@hectorsavarin7618]

rest shaman like aways in the toilet lol

[@HKono_]

Bad and wrong

[@ed6852]

This is awesome actually they actually are making good changes. This is the most balanced pvp has felt in awhile.

[@Jabarak93]

No dh

[@Prototype3710]

I hate the balancing patches. Every single time I am anxious because they are always getting it wrong. Buffing rogues and mages and monks?

[@HKono_]

Non of these commenters should ever be allowed to mention their main spec