Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World: Finally victorious

[@robwalsh9843]

What makes this deception so on point is that the dead man has the look of a tough chiseled-jaw military man, and the captain posing as the doctor has the look of a doctor or medic. Aubrey definitely went up against a man who could match him for improvisational thinking.

[@Victor2384-o7x]

How do you know it was the captain as the doctor

[@attila2246]

@@Victor2384-o7xthey figure it out at the end and have to go back

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

The French captain even found a way to surrender his sword personally (Which is how formal military surrenders traditionally worked) while still escaping with a similar ploy to what the English captain had just pulled on him. So the English captain couldn't cry foul. *10/10 certified pro gamer move*

[@Tony.795]

Deception is a perfectly valid tactic in naval warfare, as long as the attacker hoists his true colours before offensive actions. It's been done even in WW2.

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

@@Tony.795 *Technically not a war crime* XD

[@AnthonySejda]

To evade capture was the article of war and with the Uniform Military Code of Justice. It has been altered In interpretation for conform to survival.

[@賴志偉-d7h]

@@MrJustonemorevoice Not a war crime if Americans did it themselves.

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

@@賴志偉-d7h "Its not a war crime the first time"

[@Rasbiff]

Also note that the French captain was a musician just like Jack. At 1:13 the camera pans over the captain's belongings, charts, books, what looks like a flute and a French horn. Jack gets intrigued by the sheet of music lying on the floor, as the musician he is himself. The cook that attacks him with a dirk in the same scene is the French equivalent to Killick.

[@Scriptum_1]

And probably the French Captain also had a lifeguard friendship with a doctor

[@sblack48]

How do you know he was the stewart/cook?

[@Rasbiff]

​@@sblack48I don't know actually, I just assume so because he's wearing what looks like a chef's coat, he's where the captain's cabin would be (it makes sense that when a ship is about to get captured, that the captain's servant tries to save what he can of the captain's valuables), and the rest of the scene contains what I interpret as references to similarities between Aubrey and the captain of the Acheron.

[@llindner1983]

I Think DR. Maturin did say to Jack Aubrey early in the film: "He fights like you." So the french Captain is a Mirror to Lucky Jack.

[@sblack48]

@@Rasbiff yes it certainly was the captains cabin. It had the great taping hole the blasted in it when the raked the stern with a broadside. Brutal. No protection there.

[@bungiecoocoo]

I was too young to appreciate this film when it first came out. It has aged like the finest wine these years.

[@neilpemberton5523]

The death of Calamy so close to the end of the fighting was particularly tragic. He was clearly the best midshipman on the Surprise and had a glittering future in prospect. Jack would have had to hide his deep grief, he probably saw something of himself in Calamy.

[@MrChickennugget360]

how the heck did he die? literally the fighting ends right when he lets go of the walers. no gunshots are fired and no one from the English side gets killed.

[@DaniloColombo92]

​@@MrChickennugget360 mabye like the hidden french who try to stab the captain

[@DominionSorcerer]

@@MrChickennugget360 you can hear several gunshots being fired between him freeing the whalers and the French surrendering, and he's been shot to death.

[@johnforealdoe8999]

​@@DominionSorcerer he has stab wounds

[@sblack48]

You certainly see it in Aubry’s face.

[@BlauRFasan]

Jack could have picked up on the fact that the doctor was the real captain or at least not who he said he was: His hands were completely clean, hardly possible for a doctor who would have treated grieveous wounds during the battle.

[@fredericksaxton3991]

Yay.. Well spotted Sir.

[@Swarm509]

True, but it had been a hard battle and Jack was wounded (even if slightly) and tired. He was probably more worried about the state of his own men now that the French had surrendered and making sure he can take control of his prize.

[@Apollo890]

Something that Maturin would have noticed had he been there.

[@markarato8034]

I love the touch with the horn and the sheets of music. Shows that they were very much alike.

[@a_l7515]

That French captain outsmarted Jack in the end. Sneaky play.

[@happyclappyslappy]

His accent was immaculate, like Macron.

[@ColdChillin20]

No only outsmarted him temporarily. They figured it out and we're going intercept the Acheron and guide it into port. Jack will be victorious

[@andrewg.carvill4596]

Handed Jack his own sword as a ruse de guerre ......

[@holdencawffle626]

No, he was both a captain and a surgeon

[@Rowrin]

He played the same trick Jack just played on him. Disguised himself like Jack disguised the his ship as a whaling vessel. The doctor even says in the movie, to Jack, "He fights like you."

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

I love how the whalers are just *READY* to rumble the moment they hear fighting and are let out of their cells

[@EGRJ]

Whaling's not exactly a job for the faint of heart. Even today.

[@inigobantok1579]

The Acheron sunk their ship, The Albatross off the coast of the Galapagos so this is a chance for revenge.

[@Rasbiff]

Mr. Hogg (the captain of the whaler) also has a proper lust for blood during the whole scene.

[@Pucukax]

This is a masterpiece and back then i thought if this is what they can make now what they will be able to do in the future? I couldn't wait for more super realistic historical movies. I'm still waiting.

[@casualobserver3145]

Same here. I don’t think I’ve been back in the theater more than two or three times since seeing this film on the big screen. I was sooo hoping for a sequel…or two.

[@RommelsAsparagus]

Most historians will tell you that this is meticulously close to the history. As accurate as it gets. Some people find it slow and dull, but others, myself included, think it's one of the finest films ever made. Sadly the box office determines what gets made, so it's mostly the comic book drivel we've been seeing for the last 10 years.

[@helgi1921]

A historical masterpiece like this comes maybe 10-20 years apart...we are so overdue for another epic like this

[@CTKearns]

Hollywood would never make this movie again with that cast of actors.

[@iraqiimmigrant2908]

In this movie they read out of the Bible and speak in Christian terms which Hollywood would probably never allow in 2023.

[@casualobserver3145]

The somber tone of Vaughan Williams, ‘Tallis Fantasia’ is perfect for this scene. It was also used in scene where Seaman Warley was lost overboard.

[@davidrowe3992]

Being late to orchestral music, those scenes were the first time I'd heard Vaughan Williams. The music cut straight through me and I couldn't forget it until I found out where it was from. VW is my favourite composer now.

[@xe2594]

best actor in this was the Frenchman yelling doctor doctor as he opened the sheet to reveal the "doctor" and "dead" captain

[@vincehoeber4673]

He said docteur docteur.😂

[@puntovirgola]

No blood on his hands, clearly the captain

[@Imhappylol34667]

Bro he died

[@hellcat2449]

@@Imhappylol34667 The captain is the doctor he just pretends the captain died

[@Happyduderawr]

RUSSEL CROWE...FIGHTING ROUND THE WORLD!!!!

[@MasterControl-MCP]

Poor Tugger!

[@CrniWuk]

CHANG KAI CHECK! MAO ZE DONG!

[@keepcalmandenjoythedecline]

Oi, moit! Did ya call me schupid???!!!!?!! YOU WONNA FOIT???!!!?

[@2210ethan]

‘At first he thought he was merely injured, but turning him he saw the great wound in his heart’

[@bobbyboom9]

Dillon's death in the first book hits as much if not more than Calamy's in the movies.

[@Sigma0283]

2:51 - 3:00 When I saw this part I was convinced it was Blakeney who they were looking at because he was supposed to stay on Surprise. But then I was shocked when it was Calamy.

[@MasterControl-MCP]

Crowe’s masterpiece.

[@dead2me810]

Calamy's death gutted Aubrey

[@laurasaxon694]

Stephen was a very effective fighter during the battle. I love how the whalers are ready to lend a hand in the battle after Mr. Hogg releases them. The death of Calamy right before the battle is over is very sad. He had just been made acting third lieutenant and didn't get to celebrate it.

[@landwar7497]

I'd love to have the same film on board the French Acheron this time, to see their version of their duel !

[@williampoole1742]

So do they ever go over the final casualties of the battle for both sides? I really wonder that, because at the end when it shows 10 or so men lying dead at the funeral at sea, it just doesnt seem like nearly enough for how much combat was going on

[@user-dq6hs4ry6z]

Nah but doing a list of 50 dead people would slow the movie down too much

[@arielmachado1444]

Also keep in mind that probably a good chunk of the casualties were just wounded and probably survived.

[@sanjithd3343]

boarding actions during that period had surprisingly low casualty rates. Most times the deaths came from the process of dueling with ships themselves, since in real life, the ship being boarded (in this case Acheron) would have known that they lost the battle as soon as their stern was raked.

[@Benjamin64035]

true, the danger of beoing boarded or boarding was so high that most of the times it seems the people surrendered @@sanjithd3343

[@jburtonca]

That kid hasn't even reached puberty and he has lost an arm, commanded the ships gun and lost his best friend in battle. Today some 16 year olds get picked up at school by their mommies. John Adams sent his 14 year old son, john Quincy Adams, to St. Petersburg Russia to be the assistant to what was effectively the U.S. Ambassador. Today you would have to be in your 30s to get a gig like that.

[@georges617]

In fairness, most of these young midshipmen came from wealthy and elite British families. They got the best possible education you could have at the time, when most poor children their age barely got a primary education (if they got one at all). In return, things were expected of them. Carrying the family name on, maintaining or even enhancing its image in the country... There was certainly pressure to succeed and although competition wasn't too fierce, a certain level of endurance through often very tough times was necessary if you ever wanted to go from Midshipman to Lieutenant or higher. So yes, although these boys from upper-class families probably had a more comfortable upbringing than most others on that ship, they certainly were a great example of "to whom much is given, much is expected". In a sense, we should be glad that we no longer live in a day and age where every able person is recruited into the military ranks at age 11 because of all-out war. Sure, it's easy to compare those young Midshipmen of the early 1800s to nowaday's teenagers and laugh at them, but I think we can agree that not having to rely on 13-year old seamen or privates and having them worry about their school grades and careers afterwards instead, is a VERY good thing.

[@neymarmessironaldo5881]

@@georges617 War is a menace to society and is hindering humanity's progress but theres a ton of stuff we can do in peacetime in order to instill masculinity in men today. The government in Iceland for example gives money to families so the parents can send their children to learn an instrument or play sports.

[@neymarmessironaldo5881]

@Aqua Fyre i know, i know. Ductape, radar, atomic energy, etc. were invented in ww2 and all that stuff but nowadays were just gonna self destruct if theres another war. In our current time, countries need to go back to coal mining because of Russias gas embargo

[@kev3d]

And young (and not so young) adults today cry on TikTok because they have to work 8 hours in an air conditioned office.

[@22espec]

In those days, if you get to 50 you were basically an old man probaly with grandchildren and your chances to get to 60 were not very good unless you were rich

[@knotkool1]

the most emotional point of the movie. luckily, i have not seen a point in the books that calamy dies.

[@robnewman6101]

The Whole of Europe was in a Deadly Fear with Bonaparte! They were so scared because of him!

[@mst7806]

Magnificent film.

[@mr.nibblenips4231]

From victory to sorrow.

[@shauntbarry]

Crying out for a continuation of adapations of the novels, this was an amazing movie..

have seen this movie many times and i never put together the "surprise is on our side" line....lol nice

[@drunkweebmarine9492]

Maturin is a spy in the books

[@gf4453]

I love this movie.

[@leonidas231]

Never seen the movie (i want too) but i even knew that guy on the table wasnt the captain...

[@jasonking6892]

Good movie more like them 👌

[@mrniceguy7166]

I was wondering how Calamy was killed, despite the fact that the Surprise crew was on the verge of winning when he was last seen alive.

[@Yomudda304]

Dude same I had to rewatch it I swear he’s seen standing in the background when the fighting stopped

[@arielmachado1444]

It looks like he has a stab wound in the the chest.

[@shammaharellano4639]

Yeah, right in the heart. Besides, it's not like once one person gives up, all of them do. The captain never issued an order of surrender. Calamy would've been an easy target for an experienced sailor @@arielmachado1444

[@Apollo890]

​@@Yomudda304that's probably how, he assumed Job done and let his guard down and a French sailor got him in the last moment.

[@Rasbiff]

He's in the deck just above the hold, it's cramped and dark, he might have just turned one wrong corner and there was a cowering desperate French sailor there.

[@LeatherCladVegan]

Why is the surgeon also a member of the boarding party? :D

[@randomguy-xp7se]

They were outnumbered

[@LeatherCladVegan]

@@randomguy-xp7se Yeah, no - I think it's more complex than that. The surgeon stays behind - as any surgeon should do - but then the little kid with one arm orders the remaining men to board, and I think the surgeon thinks that he cannot look like a pussy at that stage. You can see it in one of the scenes, after the one-armed kid turns the cannon on them, he shouts 'we must board her now!', and that's how the surgeon gets caught up in it all. Great movie though.

[@randomguy-xp7se]

@@LeatherCladVegan i get your reservations, but exactly, the little kids are scrapping it out too. You can see him get swarmed in the melee and can tell he knows enough to survive, probably after practice with the crew and Jack, but clearly isnt a fighting man like the others. This was truly a do-or-die mission. It was all hands. Pretty badass doctor ngl. Probably one of the best characters.

[@retardcorpsman]

@@randomguy-xp7se Funny thing is, the actor that plays the doctor here (Bettany) is the same guy that plays the cowardly and incompetent ‘Prince of Orange’ in ‘Sharpe’. Same era, different characters.

[@ay0vee978]

Simple answer: Hollywood movie

[@ZethHolyblade]

It's a shame there isn't even a behind the scenes pic of the French captain in full regalia.

[@tbd-1]

You do see him through Aubrey's telescope in an earlier scene.

[@artlover1477]

Moral of the story.....don't "f" with the whalers.

[@jesuslimon8212]

So who was the real french captain

[@Bucketheadhead]

The doctor

[@zyzor]

@@Bucketheadhead yes it’s revealed that the French doctor de Vigny had died of fever months ago.

[@Revkor]

@@Bucketheadhead that was pretty fast thinking, how much time did he have to remove his coat and put it on the dead sailor.

[@zyzor]

@@Revkor this battle lasted for quite sometime. The movie obviously makes it flow in a few minutes but an engagement like this could take over an hour

[@justinlapid2163]

The doc was a pretty good swashbuckler

[@The_Daily_Tomato]

Well he's Irish after all. They're all good in a scrap 😄

[@shepardbook]

@@The_Daily_TomatoLiked how, after the fight, he looked over the action, then the sword in his hand and dropped.

[@The_Daily_Tomato]

@shepardbook Indeed, fight over so now I'm doctor again 😁

[@shepardbook]

@ From a healer to a fighter, back to a healer.

[@commanderzjustenclemons0671]

Calamy dying was very sad. Look closely and you’ll see he was stabbed in the chest 😢

[@tomevans4402]

Great

[@WMMASceneNow]

Was that Adrian Paul on the doctor’s table?

[@pamirose8612]

I was thinking the same thing. It certainly looks like him but I couldn't find anything in the internet actually confirming it. 🤷‍♀️

[@aga5897]

Center Counterparty Clearing Participant. CCCP for short xD

[@ingelrii4662]

LOL it's so obvious they chose the most Mediterranean looking actors to portray the French while favoring Nordic looking ones for the English and dyeing Russel Crowe's hair. Some of the French even wear black wigs in some scenes! It's ridiculous.

[@catchasmurf762]

They look pretty british to me !

[@alexshank1414]

Did Doctors usually help out with boarding parties?

[@julius6889]

Probably not. But the Surprise was outnumbered, so it was all hands on deck. They needed every man they could muster for the fight.

[@therealmrfishpaste]

And Maturin was also a spy and quite formidable in his own right...

[@flyboy152]

They needed every available hand to stop the other cannons. Wouldn't make much sense for the doctor to stay behind if it meant having the ship blown out from under him.

[@Lt.GonvilleBromhead]

Yes, it's possible but probably not a general thing. In 1797, the real HMS Surprise, commanded by Edward Hamilton, boarded the former Royal Navy ship Hermione, which was under Spanish control after a bloody mutiny. The surgeon, John McMullen, took part in the boarding. When a grape shot hit Hamilton on the leg but only after it's force had been spent, McMullen remarked, "By Jasus, Captain, if that gun had had a few more grains of powder, I should just have had to cut the leg off!"* *from "The Frigate Surprise" by Brian Lavery and Geoff Hunt.

[@skepticseeker]

Bread and Baguette fighting unnecessary wars....!

[@Dakio_VLF]

Ta gl fdc que tu es

[@chinaman1]

Unfortunate for Mr. Calamy!

[@dougg2012]

What did he ask in French?

[@Kursonkel]

The first guy begged for mercy ("Pitié!"); in the captain's cabin, Aubrey asked where the captain of the ship was, and the sailor who attacked him answered "L'infirmerie", translating to "The infirmary"

[@robert82747]

@@Kursonkel He asked Where is the Captain?

[@spitfirevb8941]

@@robert82747 yes

[@randomguy-xp7se]

@@robert82747 i think he simply asked "the captain" ? He got off light for stabbing tussel crowe

[@LeatherCladVegan]

He said "Non, mon petit bon bon - je suis un biblioteque", which translates to "My shoes are sodden - where is the bathroom"

[@alebroker7587]

The French due to their nature did not have the courage to say he as the captain. Yet deceived Aubrey acting as a doctor. True French till the end.

[@Imhappylol34667]

How?

[@23Revan84]

Aubrey deceived the French many times in the movie, yet we praised Aubrey? 😂

[@constantinexi6489]

The eternal Englishman cries out as he strikes you

[@danielmoran9902]

Bloody frogs.....

[@rho91]

Frogs 😂

[@Sloane311]

@@toddventura7191 you hate the French that much???

[@toddventura7191]

@@Sloane311 Can't stand the frogs, seriously. The widespread dislike for them is all too well-known!

[@acerx171]

I remember i see female french officer before battle,Where is she right now ?

[@shertir4289]

No, no females on board. There was just typical french guy. They all look like girls.

[@OrgulloNacionalArg]

?

[@kristoffersevillena7657]

I don't buy this switcheroo. At best, the captain decided from the very beginning of the battle that he was going to lose, had someone else wear his uniform, and killed him. At worst, he found a dead body, stripped it, took off his own uniform, and put them on him. Both unlikely. I'd appreciate anyone explaining to me how this switcheroo is possible.

[@CFLsurfr]

Multiple uniforms my man. Captains had multiple uniforms, so they took a dead body and dressed him up quickly. Doesn't seem that unplausible.

[@sunghobaek3361]

Ashley Su E 🍎💰 FBI Surveillance 🚔🍏

[@1532JJ]

I don't think the captains actions are possible or logical in this scene. He was shown to be topside when the Surprise pulled it's trick. So in the confusion, he'd have to have ran below decks instead of fighting with his men. What a coward. But his plan makes no sense. He hides amongst the prisoners on the Acheron as it heads to Valparaiso and then what? Overpowers Pullings and the prize crew? And then what? His ship is too badly damaged to sail back to France, I doubt they have enough money to affect repairs and where are they going to recruit enough crew to get home? I just don't get what his plan was. But then, I don't get Aubrey's plan. I get he's just neutralised the Acheron, but why split up and risk your prize crew being overtaken? They sailed with 197 men. They lost 9 men in the first attack. They lost Worley and Hollum throughout the film. They must have lost at least 40-50 men in this attack. Why does he not think to take the Acheron and Surprise to Valparaiso together and sort themselves out there? I like how later in the film, he says "refit as necessary". Like, how? How would it be possible for Pullings to equip the Acheron with a new main mast and repair all the other damage done with just a skeleton crew that have no experience handling a ship of that size? How on earth would they get home around Cape Horn? The way they wrap this movie up just doesn't make sense.

[@neilpemberton5523]

So you work for Cinema Sins, I suppose?

[@jhonsmith7991]

I wonder if the French were entertained?

[@CB-fz3li]

They changed the enemy from the Americans to the French because threy knew the US audience wouldn't be entertained.