Mastering Friction Fire

[@Ditchhead]

I actually lit a cigarette with a hand drill one time. That's what got me into primitive tech. That might seem crazy but nicotine withdrawal will make you do some crazy things

[@JaySav916]

Ive done the same thing...lol

[@timothyventura2231]

He’s so experienced, he makes this look too easy. That’s just how good he is, bro Insane

[@williamwhite9481]

When I first started hand drill i thought it was almost impossible. Now after 1 year i can get an ember in 15 seconds and can also get a full float ember VERY easily. Thats with a house dried set though. I havent tried with a set that was dried outside

[@kickop123]

As someone who moved from southern Florida to the west coast a few years ago, it's really nostalgic to hear the sounds of Florida at sunset and see you getting eaten by mosquitoes, lol.

[@andrewprahst2529]

Ahh, that not blowing on it too much bit is exactly what I needed, I always run out of fuel!

[@electronicfreak1111]

Do you need to use big stick logs

[@prowlin4reds]

Very informative. I live in Florida. I use a ferro rod and char cloth . However knowledge is power when you are under the gun. Video was very informative. Nicely done sir!

[@MrTacklebury]

It would be cool if you show what those plants you refer to are for the hand drills. Even a picture of one might help someone who doesn't know how to type them figure it out. I have done a bit of survival training etc, but usually keep magnesium fire starters etc. Cool to see someone do a hand drill so quickly.

[@sterlingd1984]

He's using the main stem from a dog fennel plant as the spindle (an extremely common wild plant here in Florida, also can be used as a bug repellent) and a split dead branch

[@adam-k]

It actually doesn't matter.. You want some soft wood that you can grind down to dust. Some say the drill bit should be hard, but it doesn't matter. If you want to increase friction you can add a tiny bit of sand or charcoal in the hole. It will grind down the wood to fine dust so the coal have fuel. If you live in birch country find some chaga fungus. If you have dry chaga your biggest problem will be extinguishing that amber. That thing just smolders for hours and cannot be put out without water.

[@ECytchannel]

Your videos are teaching me a lot brother, thank you so much.

[@huntprimitive9918]

thanks very much for following along

[@TheAca300]

relatively recently, I've burned my first successful bow drill fire but for the purpose of testing myself to replicate the result but ancient people certainly saved their sets, it makes sense to save it, i would imagine they did it

[@gregoryrogers6100]

I've tried it before and couldn't get it. I think now I stand the best chance. Thank you so much. You are a good teacher, with great knowledge.

[@anonymousthesneaky220]

This was super helpful! I'm a decent enough flint knapper, and I am excellent at basic construction, but my fire making abilities have been lacking, to say the least. This has made it so much easier.

[@joshd2013]

This is the best video I've seen on fire starting in general its the little things that make or break a fire regardless of bow drill fire plough or Ferro rod prep is the key I'm going to go find some common woods where I live here in Australia and see what works best and give it a go I've only succeeded once before out of around 4 trys so I'd like to get proficient enough in it that it's a skill I can rely on

[@howcuisinebyrishadhamanaz2134]

I have tried to create a fire everytime in my garden to practice this primitive way whenever do a pit fire BBQ. This is a very good and easy explanation. Thanks alot

[@PrimitiveTim]

All I can think about is the dude on Alone that lost his Farrow rod.

[@TechFrog88]

Joe Robinet?

[@tikkidaddy]

@@TechFrog88 yes...now he carries more than one. I actually finally got to see that episode. My heart sank. I ordered NATHAN4071 s BEAST ferro because of watching Joe go thru that😂My wife said...why do you want one that heavy?? Because it's harder to loose. I don't care if I have to put safety Orange handles and lanyards on mine, I refuse to loose them...tie it to you, put an extra one in your boot laces!...I can't imagine the horror of loosing 500 thousand dollars because I wasn't paying attention. Much less dying.

[@davefarnsworth3020]

Excellent tips. My easiest handdrill was with the 22 cartridge powder cheat that I learned from NW primate.

[@tylerjohnson6992]

I got lucky when younger. I used a cattail Reed and a cedar split. I didn't notch it, just ran a divot in the middle. Managed to create 3 coals.

[@tikkidaddy]

Cat tail fluff is the gasoline of a good tinder bundle😂

[@sterlingd1984]

It's all about knowledge, but some of us are just blessed with an instinct lol I mean we only been in the "modern era" for 100 or so odd years out of a few hundred thousand years humans have been around

[@xionix4]

Thanks. :) A note to other viewers: It is still possible to get a coal with soaked wood using drying cycles, but there's no shortcut; you will work hard.

[@shadowdark-yg5kh]

I got my first hand drill fire going your video was vary helpful thank you

[@williamwhite9481]

Also use the ashes from your first fire as extra grip on the spindle for your next fire. Learned that from David West on KZbin

[@JaySav916]

People always think you should be able to source your hand drill materials on the spot. While this is *sometimes* possible, I don't think thats how it was normally done. You *know* those old boys carried around their favorite spindle and hearth for as long they were usable and probably had at least one extra on reserve. I doubt gathering the materials when a fire was needed was actually practiced much at all. Love the videos, Ryan. The beard is getting crazy..

[@benlacrosse4872]

Great video! That chert knife is awesome

[@cesaraugusto1869]

Man, I really love you channel! Thanks from Brazil

[@huntprimitive9918]

thanks very much!

[@dimfuturefilms9070]

I use Brazilian pepper, it works very well. It grows everywhere in Florida.

[@sterlingd1984]

I hear some people can be pretty allergic to it though... Check out Green Deane's channel, my Florida brother lol he's my foraging go to for all things Florida

[@dimfuturefilms9070]

@@sterlingd1984 YES sir! I love green deane 💪

[@williamwhite9481]

When I first went out into the woods i would only be able to look for one thing at a time. It was hard for me to be able to look for anything i could use. Now after a few years i am able to go out without even trying to look for things and my eyes just pick up anything i can use automatically

[@dinnerwithfranklin2451]

Brilliant demonstration and it sounds like solid advice. Thank you very much

[@lobopropredatorcontrol]

Really great information, thank you

[@gildasmagtured]

Très intéressant et très clair. Merci pour votre travail

[@skytan4394]

C'est vrai, par contre ce tutoriel est bien meilleur kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2aweqypZr53mKs

[@ВладимирЯнковский-с9т]

hi from Russia, thank you very much for your work, sorry for the mistake, I use Google translator

[@huntprimitive9918]

thanks very much for following along

[@KowboyUSA]

You are understood.

[@MRPBDB]

Found your channel today.. Absolutely awesome.. Thanks

[@rd76767]

Very well put my friend,

[@williamwhite9481]

Hand drill is my favorite fire making method

[@cretudavid8622]

Ive tried to do it like 2 times.... Never worked! Let's see how will I do after this video:)

[@JaySav916]

I find that the bones and skin on my hands is my biggest issue with the hand drill. They need to be conditioned properly. It usually takes about 2 weeks to get them toughened up right. I guarantee with the right materials and practicing once or twice a day, youll have an ember in that timeframe

[@huntprimitive9918]

good luck on your future attempts

[@iridios6127]

+Drawz vibes 15-20 failures, with hand covered blisters, trying various woods. And after 1 months --- i get the ember !!

[@petejohnson6498]

Thanks a ton for sharing! I've tried friction fires, but never succeeded. Going to try using your tips.

[@RedmanOutdoors366]

Crazy cool information bud 😎👍💯🔥🏹

[@Kushy_McKush]

Nice channel! Really like it... greetings from Germany

[@diabolicalartificer]

Thanks. Tried a few times with bow drill, tried all kinds of wood, Ash, Oak, Scots Pine, Willow, Hazel etc. Never quite managed, made smoke but no fire....DA.

[@ishamallot]

Time honored tradition, offering the fire stick to the fire gods

[@matteoveneruz9096]

I’ve been working on conditioning my hands to do a handrill fire and I think my hands are ready. Lately I’ve been whitling down the burnt end of the spindle because that seems to get me the most dust but I noticed you didn’t do that. I’m wondering if you should make a new notch and new hole every time you make a fire. I know how to make a notch and hole and have gotten very close to getting an ember but I usually stop so that I don’t bruise or blister my hands. The fact that my only good spindle also cracked isn’t helpful but I have one that is golden rod and have been using that.

[@westonbrueggeman7066]

You are the best

[@WinstonsprimitiveweapondsHSfar]

Awesome man it helps a lot

[@basketcaseknapperdingusmcg7701]

I made a coal with horseweed on cottonwood while I watched, great video thaanks

[@karlhammers1607]

Awesome Ryan! Thank you.

[@mayamachine]

I have been having great luck with the fire roll or Rudger roll. Have you experimented with that? Also I'm in love with char punk wood, it takes up the smallest spark, and is easily replaced , no more char cloth.

[@kylefessenden3111]

Hey, Ryan, just wondering if black locust would make a decent hearth for friction fire? I have a few scraps from making bows that seem to suggest decent hearths, but I was unsure how they would hold up in that application.

[@benthere8051]

Well done.

[@tonysbones2813]

Can you hunt iguanas? Possibly with a blowgun? For me it was massive challenge. But I ended up walking away with two big ones!

[@exdy-eb3dv]

How do you know if the wood is dry enough to make a fire? If you can't dry the kit you have to know somehowif the wood you're gonna use is dry enough. Nice video! Keep going like this! You're great

[@huntprimitive9918]

experience mostly. and how it feels when you start to to either burn in the spindle or make a coal.

[@andypanda4927]

Kinda like shopping in a grocery store or market in area not your regular neighborhood. Different items on your list of what looked for won't be located in same patterns. Meat in on store may be along same wall as produce, in another, on the opposite side of the store. Paper products 2 aisles over from cleaning products, things like that.

[@trinityorion6123]

great video very helpful could you do a video about collecting sap and making pine pitch i have tried to get sap from a tree three times and not one has worked

[@dragoscoco2173]

I've tried and it's actually quite easy. Get about a spoonful of pine resin (fir, pine basically any softwood that oozes sap from the bark, fresh cut branches that were live are oozing more). Melt it in a can, let it boil off until it seems not to boil off anymore and emits just smoke. Dirt will float or sink so it can be easily separated. What you end up with is basic rosin. While molten mix with: -Charcoal powder and you get Ryan's recipe imo. Quite strong but still somewhat brittle. -10%ish beeswax will make it less brittle but a bit less strong. Good for strong hafts. Add charcoal by preference. -50%ish beeswax will get you an excellent compound that can be handled by hand to fletch or haft less strong connections. -70%ish beeswax is a pure fletching delight. You can mold it by hand in any shape and it is still sticky enough. I also add it over plant fiber to make a waterproof lashing of arrows. While I was a bit wary at first, collecting the mixture on a stick is very handy for further maneuvering, ancient tech was very high tech. Also while it sets do not be disappointed if it feels soft in the beginning as the various beeswax mixtures have a few crystallization steps that will harden it more in 24 hours of room temperature.

[@trinityorion6123]

@@dragoscoco2173 thanks super helpful for attaching some more newman points i have made again thanks alot

[@gelanghaarteweile3048]

"You don't discard your set if it works..." LOL i used mine for about 2 years :D Than the spindel was too short for a handdrill. My teacher said:" you will have 3 "fires" if you do it the old way. First you prepare your fire and collect and chop wood. Second you try to make fire with your bowdrill/handdrill and last but not least: you have your fire."

[@ethanjamesgarcia3914]

It’s rare to see the hand drill done with actual tree branches. One I found works is pomegranate tree

[@HerrGesetz]

Is the spindle meant to be hardwood?

[@josephcarter1936]

So should the spindle be harder than the hearth board?

[@huntprimitive9918]

I prefer the softest spindle possible with a pithy center. Just not so sift that it collapses under pressure. That is why dry flower/weed stalks work so well. I also prefer soft woods for the hearth

[@kelleygoodale6244]

This mans just named every single wood that isn’t in my area including the flower stocks

[@sterlingd1984]

Basically you want a long, thin, straight grained piece for your spindle, idk your area but maybe for you willow reeds would replace the dog fennel stem he's using

[@tonyallen8626]

Doe's the stuff you need for a friction fire need to be dry.

[@huntprimitive9918]

well, I mean the point has been driven home

[@KowboyUSA]

When a big mortgage payment starts rubbing up against an empty bank account it's been known to start a friction fire.

[@steveoppermann7596]

I've found that if the notch is undercut slightly it makes the charred dust form sort of a half pyramid beneath the hearth board, that can't get pushed aside by new char that's formed as the spindle works. The peak of that pyramid of dust is touching the spindle, which is where the coal will form. When I first tried to do friction fire, I didn't pay particular attention to the angle of the point of the notch and had one which was angled away from me. You could watch the charred dust crawl outward as the spindle worked but it wasn't staying at the top of the notch against the spindle long enough to ignite.

[@celcusgamingalliance4856]

14:50 is were he gets to the fire part

[@huntprimitive9918]

mastering fire is all about preparation. you can watch simple fire building tutorials anywhere. This video is about mastering it

[@celcusgamingalliance4856]

@@huntprimitive9918 ok sorry

[@electronicfreak1111]

Okay dry hopefully it works

[@cronkthecrunk]

SON OF A B@&#$! I have wireless earbuds in that apparently are good enough to fool me into thinking a mosquitoe just flew into my left ear @3:22 Edit: I can't finish this video 😂😂😂🤦‍♂️

[@yehabon]

hyperdry.

[@Sure-wj1vf]

I think im the first comment! 😀

[@NCWoodlandRoamer]

🏆

[@juanconeo]

Lier lier pants on fire

[@huntprimitive9918]

definitely had a little pants on fire

[@aslanbosnakoglu8240]

school is the biggest waste of time

[@whiterabit09]

I will always have flint or a lighter with me, so i don't have to rely on this....

[@dingolightfoot8823]

I spent 3 minutes on a friction fire then my friend who made his own bow out the arrow on fire and burned the American flag😂😂😂😂 Primal anarchy!!!

[@jungleebushcraft]

Talking too much...

[@russell2952]

He rattles off a ton of different trees, some I've never even heard of, and provides zero information on how to identify said trees.

[@tikkidaddy]

I have a friend who puts his sets in a large PVC pipe sealed on one end with a cap on the other and uses moisture absorbers in the tube after he gathers and dries them in his car in the summer😂it's made like a quiver with 550 cord and other fire accessories. I can't do bow or hand drill due to physical limitations so I use a page magnifier and char cloth, or a fire piston. You can use punk wood as a long lasting coal extender and expander too. Learn to bank your fire and keep it going.