VOCAL THICKENING (3 Quick Tricks You Need to Know)

[@anand10ful]

To all the viewers of this video----A very honest advice to all of you. The cheatsheets link provided in the description is a RARE TREASURE. I have never seen such interesting and extremely useful information provided at free of cost on any other youtube channel. At the same time, I will stress again that these sheets are the most awesomely designed piece of information which are so interactive that they will force your eyes to stick upon it till you finish reading each and every useful word out of it. Thanks a lot Rob Mayzes for showing your splendid passion to educate other music producers. You're indeed a Musician on a Mission. God bless you and All the very best for your future endeavours.

[@masteringcom]

Thanks for the incredibly kind words! Really happy to hear that you found them helpful :)

[@AmarezMusic]

@@masteringcom Yes this is an understatement. I started watching your videos and thought, eh it's another youtuber that has slightly different techniques than the others. However over time, after watching several of the videos, I grew passionate for you as a human. Your well-mannered delivery and actual.. empathy.. for struggling musicians (not only producers, but musicians); makes me appreciate you more than ever. 'Musician on a mission' is the best title I've seen for a music production channel. I see empathy in your teaching. I'd cringe to say I love ya bro but I do. I'd say it's rare to love a youtuber over the internet. Thanks for what you do. I wish you a great future.

[@JohnWallsrockmusic]

I totally agree

[@dodo13500]

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[@boytino2646]

Agree as strarting my 1st single the cheatsheet is my guide

[@MrLukas190]

I cant belive how litte of a following you have in relation of the quality of your content, you deserve more. And here is why (in my opinion) : 1. You dont present your view as the ultimate solution but as your opinion. 2. You give very good examples for any point you trying to make 3.Your Video Production is realy good (not to much, not to little) 4.And most importanly , you explain very good. You have everything narrowed dont to the things that are importent and dont talk about uneeded things, and that why you dont confuse your audience and together with point 2 you succed with the intention of the video format. Please keep up the good work! Greetings from Germany

[@masteringcom]

Wow thanks for the kind words!

[@cameroncollins4423]

Subbed!

[@robbieweatherhead6703]

This is game changing info!...if we are musicians on a mission..then you are a fine captain sir!!!

[@masteringcom]

Haha thanks!

[@BillGraper]

I've never EQ'ed my reverb, but I'm going to start. I never even thought about that. For me it's always been "which reverb & how much of it." Thanks for these videos. I'm learning a lot & they're great to watch while I'm eating my meals or snacks. :)

[@AmarezMusic]

I wanna say that you are a life saver. Can't express it any better.

[@bustersbrain]

OMG.... I've seen a lot of things from different channels this month and this is the only video that feels like actual magic.

[@88Doug]

It is great. I do what you may call like rap or hiphop, and I feel I like a dryer vocal. It can be tricky. I fell mixing is where allot of the magic happens!

[@andywildsnake7714]

You just follow step-by-step the recommendations from the video. And do and receive nothing exceptional. But when you compare at the end the result of this tutorial and your all your previous attempts you hear "kind of magic". Thanks a lot for your knowledge and your goodwill to share it with us! You are the best!

[@allsongsnew9705]

This world needs teacher like you! Love from India!

[@kenwatts3848]

The mixing cheat sheets are excellent. Thank you.

[@MrRigazzi]

went through a few tutorials and they were all over the place you break this down right to the point brother i appreciate this

[@brianhansen7425]

I sat 2 hours watching this video and customizing the different plug-ins to my own song. It was so worth it! Thank you so much

[@KB-jn4hp]

You are basically the only YTber who is really teaching people how to make music, great work

[@BillGraper]

Kenny Gioia is another great one. His KZbin channel is REAPER Mania. I use reaper, so his videos are amazing to me. I'm learning a lot about the program from his channel.

[@mtbsieppo]

@rory clynes Exactly! Kenny Gioia, Warren Huart, Glenn Fricker for metal people and so many other names that I'm too lazy to look up right now haha. Lot's of well presented quality content out there, this channel included

[@shubhshinde4438]

hello sir... a trillion thanks to you....and would you please make a video on mixing soulful vocals and how to make it sound upfront as well as clean....please 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@collidingbydesign]

Definitely improved my mixing and mastering watching your videos. This guy's the best out there... believe me i tried so many instructors, tutorial website etc. until I found this channel. Worth it, simple explanation, GENERAL DAW usage... every explanations fit with any material you have. Perfect!

[@masteringcom]

Thanks for the kind words! Glad we could help :)

[@masteringcom]

Do you have of your own tricks for thickening up the vocal? Leave a comment!

[@CrimewavBeats]

Parallel compression lol

[@marscrasher]

Musician on a Mission thick ensemble plug in on a bus

[@mikenicholson7465]

This may be dated tech today but I'm still a big fan of actually performing variations on the main vocal. They will each be lower in the mix, beefing the vocal up into one cohesive voice. Some examples of variations you can perform and mix into your project: a lower octave than the lead, a whispered version, a falsetto version (think BeeGee's Staying Alive if you're a male vocalist), a screamed version, spoken version with barely any emphasis on the melody. Some of this stuff you might be thinking "you can't be serious about this, man". But you'd be surprised how many of those tracks you'll find usable in almost any project you've got. You'll also be surprised how cohesive they can sound together as "one voice" when low in the mix. Now, if you have your own home or bedroom studio you can do this all you want. If you have to purchase studio time forget all this advice; that would get expensive quick.

[@skwig5670]

big brain OTT

[@alexandergeiger702]

Your tutorials are simply awesome, man. You explain every little step you do and why you chose to do it that way. Too many producers out there, simply showing how they do it but not explaining why. Thanks!

[@HaXxXoVtotheZ]

When all the effects were on I thought it was singing in a different language. It's crazy how big of a difference all that makes.

[@Victoria-uh7dy]

Incredible tutorial. thank you:)

[@simarjsingh]

Well the first trick was what I was just looking for, It is amazing❤

[@rickyjohn8584]

Love your videos , you articulate information in the most humble manner with no condescending tones !! Keep up the great work ahd thank you .Could really do with you on my current project .

[@JimMcGuirk1]

Thank You. Can't wait to try it on my next mix.

[@fredacuneo5180]

Fantastic demonstration of something so tedious. Thank you for the vid. And thank you for the cheat sheet.

[@masteringcom]

Happy to help!

[@donwritarecords7994]

Thanks, I had a similar work flow but this definitely helped me realize what i was missing! one of the best tutorials ever!

[@xaosnox]

Very nice tricks. I remember the days when a 16 track studio was a big deal, and I'd have to go back and sing a second track that matched the first one exactly in order to get this sound. I think I still prefer the way it sounded doing it the old way, but I don't miss trying to match every nuance of the track with a second performance! That was grueling, and studio time wasn't cheap.

[@learningideas]

I love watching a video of yours each evening after work. Really making my mixes sound so much better. Thank you.

[@gobrad]

At long last!! A channel dedicated to vocals!!! And decent vocals too!! Thank you!!!

[@TheGuitarWorkshop]

I am a loyal fan to your videos, so much helpful Thank you

[@3Ware55]

This is the best video I’ve seen for this! Thanks! Helps a ton. Significant difference

[@masteringcom]

So glad to hear you heard an improvement!

[@jasonpoggi1633]

I finally can improve my vocals! Thank thank you, thank you, thank you..

[@RobertOfPrague]

Hey Rob, just finished watching over late lunch. Appreciate all of you guys on YT giving us free recording/mixing/mastering tips. Lots of actionable info. However, don't care for her singing, although, much better than the 'moaning cat in heat' on the Jonas A. 'Mixing vox' video or most of the iZotope videos. Am by trade a geologist, by heart a musician/singer/songwriter. Been recording my music for 20 years but began VSTi & mastering 3 y ago due to being 50% deaf now; can't perform anymore. Grew up w/ Beatles, Doors, Ray Charles, Ella Fitzgerald, Tom Jones, Four Freshmen, Take Six, Aretha F., Cream, ABBA, Jimmy Hendrix, S. Wonder, Traffic, F. Zappa, Mamas & Papas, et al. All great singers. Currently like Nora Jones, Diana Krall. Can't stand rap & hip-hop. Couldn't stand the Bee-Gees or any males singing like castrates, or Pavarotti. I call that 'moaning hyenas in heat'; I cringe! Could you or anybody here explain to me why is this IMHO unpleasant shrill over-emoting 'singing' so popular? Can't wrap my brain around it. The last 80 years, humanity was really singing; not so much lately. My daughter & I have decent voices, methinks. Czech it out in full HD: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZilaKCml9uhisk (done at home) kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKTIZ4CDedyke7s (pro studio) However, keep up the good work. Struggling to keep our vox upfront w/ VSTi on that jazzy ballad.

[@kurtweber2]

Nicely done! I had not heard the reverb idea before. The doubler I normally put directly on the track. The aux is a better idea.

[@masteringcom]

Thanks! Glad we could help you out!

[@genolexismusic983]

This man is amazing. Thank you so much

[@latapoxy5478]

That track was dope. Where i can i find the finished version of that

[@amitdas1967]

thankyou for putting timing in description

[@FreeKAzoiD8]

Thank you, that was very helpful.

[@tonyfight9897]

1:00 reverb eq 5:26 doubler 10:50 chorus

[@tvpnyc]

Totally solid mate- never thought of Tip #1! Cheers-

[@masteringcom]

Glad to help!

[@Jestunes]

Enjoyed your videoand although I'm not a fan of doublers, but I remember one case using the doubler on a BR-8 that was outstanding. Your video was very well put, very organized and you say what needs to be said. Mainly you stay on the point. I do a lot of vocal work on many different genre worldwide (guess you can say it's more of an internet thing.) Anyway my most favorite way to beef up the vocals is the have the singer sing the exact same phrasing and combine the two. The difference in resinging the same phrase shows slightly (depending on the singer), but is a nice effect in itself. One left one right. Then I'll add a little effects on one (usually a little delay on one) and different or barely any effects on the other. Then I try to balance the two. It's more of an experimental thing different for each recording. I never keep the same settings for a different song or singer. This has never failed me whenever I try it. Of course this will not work with every singer. Many singers cannot duplicate the volume, pronunciation, breathing, attack and attitude when duplicating a vocal phrase, and even harder when duplicating with a harmony as well. Just my way I guess. Thanks for a very informative video.

[@Fiveash-Art]

Yeah, sometimes all those effects don't do that much but make it sound more 'unnatural' and synthy ... Just dub a second vocal like you said .. sometimes you can go in and time stretch the consonants so they hit more accurate. To me this is a much better sound than fooling around with these plug-ins. David Gilmour did all his vocals that way

[@jimanya]

commenting for the algorithm, staying for the quality content

[@88Doug]

I'm working on mixing right now! I can get tricky!

[@Chhenu]

Where are the cheatsheets on site ? All I see is info to register for webinar. Or is it info within the webinar itself?

[@MASERSTUDIOS]

You are the boss! Thank you

[@CaesarOleksy]

Keep all subtle enough to make a huge difference ;) - Thanks Much!

[@MonoLith2049]

Great easy to understand tutorial well presented and the sound quality is fine too

[@steviebuoy320]

Thanks again for another great tip. Question by boosting between 250 and 500 does that not introduce a lot of mud ?

[@stefanaguinaldosoerensen2355]

You have quickly become my favorite production teacher. Thanks dude!

[@masteringcom]

Ah thanks! Glad we can help.

[@darnelljaxon]

WHERE CAN I BUY THIS SONG!?!?! She can SANG and the lyrics are soooo dope! Thanks for the tricks; I use them all

[@holyten]

Thank you for the tip. What’s the name of the song you were mixing?

[@michaelcalia6072]

I've heard two interesting, somewhat unusual tunes so far in your presentations. I appreciate that.

[@denvy21]

Reverb tricks new to me .You are excellent man!

[@Anonymous-mx9dh]

Blue World If you want another magical reverb trick set up your reverb bus like normal and add an eq at 12-18db/ octave slope before the reverb like he does on here but put a high pass filter at around 600 Hz or so and a Low pass filter at around 10 kHz. This is actually known as the Abbey Road trick. And you can even notch out some of the upper mid range around 2-4khz in the presence areas to reduce some of the harshness. Of course play around with it as you need to. And A/B with and without the reverb and you’ll hear what it does. It’s very subtle but it works wonders

[@lifeofmikael]

Damn, I was always using space designer or chromaverb on the main track but now I'm understanding so much more damn.

[@camillamedia2436]

This was extremely helpful

[@lalitkishor01]

Grtt tricks.. U r always awesome...

[@avaron100]

Could someone explain to me how to do the reverb trick in Ableton? I send the vocal track to a new audio track and apply EQ and reverb to this new track? But the EQ will be on the reverb? Or will it be on the vocal? I don't understand how could the EQ go to the reverb. Should I put the reverb or the EQ first in chain? Thank you!

[@skwig5670]

ORig track > send > on the effect return: EQ, then Reverb

[@stuffnuns]

Thank you for these vids. They have been greatly helpful as I begin to use Logic seriously.

[@bboymac84]

this was is the real deal because your doing it parallel. but it could use some compression CLA-76 and puigtec for real thickness. or just Nectar 3 to start and a scheps 73 or a Greg wells Vocal Centric.

[@danielabraham1052]

spot on!

[@agatone7244]

I usually relay on a vocoder to thicken up, it ads a really nice character to the vocals. Not anything I’d recommend to songs with a lot of elements in already, it would probably be really muddy (subtractive eq at 200hz should help a bit).

[@sthabipin]

thanks Rob..you saved me..!!! Thanks Rob

[@foreveryonee]

song is awesome btw

[@reamasaurusrex7236]

So far, I've only added reverb to vocals and EQ for tone shaping afterwards, but I'm going to try this soon

[@masteringcom]

Best of luck!

[@anand10ful]

Thanks a lot Rob for the great lesson. I have been following you for 2 years when I started music production. These were some of the lifetime tricks which I would always remember. By the way I need a small favour from you. I am deeply awe-struck by the song which you were using in this video. Would you kindly mention it so that I can listen to it ?

[@producerfuji_official]

Question can you do a video on this again in protools and use a 7 band stock Eq and r verb thank you 🙏🏽 Appreciated

[@africanrevolution3551]

DOPE!!!! the tricks...WOW!!!!

[@garnetbey7400]

this was so so good, i just worked on some vocals for my next Project, this was right on time, a GREAT EXERCISE TO ADD TO MY VOCAL ARSENAL

[@masteringcom]

Awesome!

[@GuyFerzOfficial]

this song goes hard. love it

[@Mark_Williams300]

What kind of weird ass elevator has a frigging chandelier in it!?

[@AllanGildea]

Excellent as always, thank you.

[@retsmej]

super cool ! thanks a lot for these tips !

[@masteringcom]

No problem!

[@EfisioCross]

That was purely incredible. Subbed to your email list as well. God bless you.

[@Rajantadev]

it is very helpful!Thankyou❤

[@ALLGOOD_MUSIC]

Love your videos thanks!

[@keithrowe1007]

Question. Should we do this in mono to find out if there are any weird phasey effects? I’m thinking specifically the the -6L and +6R. And to that end should we really be keeping such things down the middle so the character doesn’t change in mono? Lots of people blast music from their phones in their pockets these days.

[@lazosopenmic]

I greatly appreciate your tutorials as I'm a learner driver with Logic. I can't find your cheat sheets. Can you or anyone else please direct me to the source?

[@brayanfelix8502]

man you are Great! i have a question tho, are you applying any compression?

[@LoganHillOfficial]

Love it Rob!!

[@GKB.official]

Ten minutes in I realized she was singing in English and now I'm addicted to this song

[@Squonk06]

Same here. Wish I knew what it was. I'd happily pay the usual $1.29 to download it. Googling some of the exact lyrics sadly turns up nothing.

[@cyborgmetropolis7652]

Any vocal tricks for getting rid of ear worms?

[@djayforever]

What’s the difference in a vocal doubling plug in and just having duplicate tracks?

[@tiaenslasombra3502]

Gran Consejo

[@camhardcastle7978]

The link to the cheat sheet just takes you to a marketing video.

[@honkytonk2010]

Awesone! video your video was so helpful Thank you for sharing

[@masteringcom]

Glad we could help!

[@chrisshield4066]

Could you perhaps do a video on getting backing vocals to sound thick enough to hear well but also give way for the main vocal?

[@masteringcom]

Hey check this out! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKalhqWGpbOeopo

[@brilliantejones]

hey.... great video. where are you located?

[@davidmendie6847]

Thank you.

[@xaosnox]

Thank you for another great set of quick tips. I always learns something really useful from your videos. I've been doing essentially the same thing, but without Waves. I've just got those busses set up in a template in REAPER. Nice to know Waves does it quickly, though. That new reverb in Logic looks nice. It seems to have half of what makes FabFilter Pro-R the only reverb I've ever used since I got it. Can you explain what the curve effects? In Pro-R, there is one for the reverb itself, and another for the decay. It's brilliant. It also has a pre-delay which you can set to a note value which adds a lot of clarity to the vocal when you give it a bit a room before the reverb starts starts, and using a note value makes it very musical. Does the new Logic plugin have something similar? The only things preventing Pro-R from being the perfect reverb plugin is the piano key feature that is included in the other FF plugins. I find that setting the curve peaks so that they accentuate notes in the key and dips to deemphasize notes that are not when I'm making the curve have the feel I'm after makes it feel just that much more cohesive, so it would be nice to have that little keyboard handy!

[@FacundoTupac]

Thanks mate, this was very insightful! Currently I'm not really on a great room but didn't have a choice in my small apartment. I'm planning on building tough in two or three years, what dimensions would you consider if you were to build a brand new room on a 2nd floor?

[@Writtenmirror]

This is helpful thank you!

[@masteringcom]

Our pleasure!

[@Writtenmirror]

@@masteringcom Awesome! Come pay my channel a visit sometime I'd love to hear your thoughts on the content.

[@ardypangihutan3653]

very useful . thanks

[@masteringcom]

No problem!

[@anajagacic1972]

ehm stupid question, my mixer shows Stereo Out and Master. How do I get the Reverb there?!

[@ramble-on1333]

Goodmorning, nice video. where are the faders at the bottom come from. Is this a setting in Logic?? regards from Holland

[@ramble-on1333]

@MorbidManMusic I mean the moving led faders.

[@k-vybzmusic7025]

Is there any other plugin that can work similar to the little reverb plate

[@realmusic962]

I do all three of these but struggle along that fine line of losing articulation and clarity of the lyrics

[@3xsamuel]

Love your work

[@masteringcom]

Thanks for watching!

[@esotericmissionary]

Subtitle: "Do You Understand How Reverb Works?"

[@ulfsvensson9710]

What's that song? It stuck in my ear!

[@dreambeliever3652]

Big lightbulb to all of us. EVERYTHING IS DONE SUBTLY. we tend to overdo it at times

[@StevenSoto]

Wow. Thanks.

[@metalvisionsongcontest7055]

While listening to the song 1) How long did it take you to realize she's singing in English 2) How long did it take you to realize she's singing about an elevator 3) How long did it take you to realize she's actually referring to a... let's say "Deployable Inseminator Carrier Kit"? 😂

[@jesonnguzu2646]

🤣🤣

[@MarkAllentheProducer]

Great Vid dude, that vocal would drive me insane lol

[@nishchalkujmar7592]

ur a genius man