Masterpiece Combiners: Where Are We Now?

[@DiggitySlice]

Remember when combiner torso characters ACTUALLY became the torso? I miss that

[@tarlison2k1]

I think a 20inch oversize and modified combiner.wars volcanicus will be great

[@jasondonovan4942]

Only a few months into collecting and have done my bollox already! About £2000!. I have original g1 toys but the masterpeices can get so expensive, it forces me to look at k.o!. They are such good knock off' though with THF, Infinite, Jinbao.. Im comfortable with the choice, and def saved a fortune! My favourite though is probably fanshobby power baser, such an awesome shelf presence!

[@bobdobalina8910]

The one thing all the competition has over Zeta's versions, is that Aesthetically they are SUPERIOR. Just not size & that is where they lose out and where they lose buyers. Their bot and alt modes are all amazing, some better than others, but almost all are better than Zeta's. You got the coin, by Zeta's for SIZE and one of the others for their bot/alt modes. You WIN twice!!! Cang's PredaKing is gonna loo CRAZY. Hoping Abominus/Terrorcons get a SIZE redo, Unique did a GREAT job on them. Raiden looks pretty damn good too. There is always Monstructor as well. Defensor/Protectobots looks excellent, just a shame that it will most likely come up short. SIZE is EVERYTHING in MP scale.

[@kyllerkill]

Someone did make a good point. All the combiners should be different sizes. They shouldn’t be all the same size to make it look more realistic.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

I can appreciate that idea for sure! Thanks

[@CRMoore1975]

Fans Toys have proven time and time again that they are the best. I'd even say they exceed Takara tomy. Well worth the price and wait

[@brianbyles3737]

I want the toy world devastator and zeta toys bruticus but what I really want is for a masterpiece G1 style skorponok

[@THEWATCHERISLOOKING]

Where’s the Toyworlds Menasor and Defensor.

[@AfoteyAnnum]

Fortunately, money isn't much of an issue for me with these gestalts. I'm on board for the largest versions of these figures possible, so Zeta wins by default (with the possible inclusion of Fanstoys) It's truly a really good time to be a collector!

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes it is a great time to be a collector and with all the options there is something for everyone! Thanks

[@AfoteyAnnum]

@@tydiriumhanger1320 EXAAAACTLY Something for EVERYONE. Which is why I don't understand why some folks complain at all. But that's a topic for another video LMAO

[@1980sPopCultureFan]

The G1 Menasor Combiner is a gem.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

That is a good looking figure! Thanks

[@MisaelCastilloBrenes]

I didn't know there was an MMC Defensor in plans... I'm onboard! Predaking is one of my favorite combiners (if not the most), but I already have MMC's Feral Rex. I don't see myself selling it to buy a new one, I'm trying to stop collecting and only sit back and enjoy the sight. Great topic, thanks for the video!

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

The MMC Defensor is planned but have not given any guidance as to when the first figure will be released. I know it does get old replacing characters over and over for sure! Thanks

[@paineforu7356]

I wish mensor had a more effort design while combining

[@ironsquirrel9272]

I just received XTB Gravestone in the mail yesterday, nice looking figure but the transformation is scary. I felt like i was gonna break it several times. I have yet to complete any combiners, i have 5 Toyworld Constructicons, 1 Zeta Aerialbot, 1 Unique Toys Combaticon, 1 Warbotron Combaticon, and 2 Combiner Wars Combaticons. Roadking will probably be my next purchase along with a few variations of TE-01, i just bought TE-01S, an absolutely gorgeous figure.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

It is satisfying for me when I was able to complete and combine a combiner. It is also good to see if you like the look and feel of a companies product before you drop $300+ on a set. I so worry about breakage when assembling the XTB Menasor. Thanks

[@ironsquirrel9272]

Tydirium hanger that's mostly why i have yet to complete one: look and feel. I like the majority of what i own individually but hate the overall look when displayed together. Both official and 3rd party are all over the place aesthetically, nothing looks cohesive. Not just combiners but everything. Unpainted plastic, gloss paint, metallic paint, toon, toy, IDW, Studio Ox, and others. I know this don't bother some but i don't really care much for it. To me its kinda like watching a movie with bad CGI, it just looks off.

[@thomasrondon9286]

I just want the best reprentizations of all the G1/movie transformers. Devastator is my favorite combined but I do love them all. I have Blot, Rippersnapper, & Cutthroaght, just waiting for Sinnertwin and Gunn Garr to come out. Great video as usual.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

I do look forward to finishing that KO OS version of Abominus also. Thanks

[@markcastellanet9672]

I think 18 inches is a good size for a combiner. That towers over most regular figures, bit is smaller than city bots which should be the largest. IMHO

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Very true and easier to display than these monsters we are getting now! Thanks

[@WaywardTraveler77]

I wouldn't get your hopes up on things getting back to normal in March like they keep saying. Things are getting worse over there not better, so I fully expect things to be shut down well into spring and maybe even the summer. Nothing is shipping from China at all right now.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

They are saying shipping has resumed but nothing new is actually arriving to ship out so you are right. Thanks

[@WaywardTraveler77]

@@tydiriumhanger1320 Yep, some shipping is happening, but its slow going and I don't expect any new figures until late April into May. I am figuring May for the next Fans Toys release at best.

[@aquamosquito3066]

I'm hoping to get a job during spring break to pay for Toyworld Constructor. I want it so bad. The X Perfect version.

[@aquamosquito3066]

I also put down a deposit for MMC Blast Off, as I had the RID Movor as a kid.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

That is a great representation of Devastator. So far one of the best! Thanks

[@keleelearns]

I'm into 18" scale, currently have Jinbao KO Gravity Builder, POTP Predaking, JJ Jet commander and Jinbao KO Bruticus. Do you have any recommendation to add in my small collection? I preordered KO yes model guardia but disappointed to know that it is short

[@Castellan--Ignatios]

Good information, thanks

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Glad you enjoyed! Just sharing my excitement surrounding these combiners. Thanks

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

I would love to collect those big ones. I also love seeing my 8-year old son assembling my Bruticus knock-off...and then pray that he won't break the joints.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

It is always fun when you can include the kids in the hobby. Thanks

[@anthonycourt7977]

None I have my maketoys fansproject chug combiners I am happy

[@JimmyHauser]

There is no light at the end of the tunnel. We can’t afford it.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

LOL That is so true! Thanks

[@kamenridergeiz9490]

A new devastator is due

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

What will everyone do with their 15 different colors of Toyworld? LOL I bet Takara could do a great job on a Devy if they wanted but then there is the build issue. Thanks

[@neuromancerXL]

Great commentary piece!

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Glad you enjoyed! Thanks

[@mfdoomtree3753]

Love talkn masterpiece combiners! It's weird that I never hear anyone really talk about the Jinbao oversized Devastator. That Devastator with the upgrade kit is by far my favorite Devastator. You definitely need the upgrade kit to get the proper height. All the others look to skinny for me. I've got him right next to DX9 Menasor and a Zeta Bruticus and he scales really well.

[@SeanGabrielMcClelland]

Thanks for the info, been wanting a Devastator, but wasn't sure if the cheaper offerings were any good!

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

I do hear a lot about the Jinbao version and he seems pretty solid. Thanks

[@jasondonovan4942]

Jinbao oversize is fckin awesome for the price! I have one and love it

[@JozantoSA]

Jinbao Devastator is awesome! Got him a month ago and love it! I'm currently considering getting Transform Mission's Menasor. Seems very promising.

[@MagnusLootCrate]

All the waiting for Fanstoys is my only real complaint.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes but usually they are worth the wait. Thanks

[@Optimus-Prime-Rib]

Did you miss Cang Toys Predaking?

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes that thing is coming also! Thanks

[@stevethompson3399]

I’m 4 ‘bots in on the GT Defensor and can’t wait to complete him. I have the UT Bruticus, so seeing as they are kind of rivals, they should hopefully scale together quite well. I have no problem with my combiners being different sizes...the basic Autobot/Decepticons were all various sizes, so why not these? It’s the asthetics that are ‘masterpiece’ quality to me , not necessarily the scale. I also have ‘old green’ TW Devastator on pre-order, and XTB Menasor and FT Superion on the go. I think all these will look awesome together!

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Great point about the different sizes of the figures overall. UT Bruticus and GT Defensor will look great together. Thanks

[@dannyvestal299]

Hey Mike..is the Unicron that we crowdfunded being assembled in China or Japan?..oh yeah, and I have the Maketoys Quantron..it makes a pretty good Computron, but heck everything gets outdated eventually. Thanks for the video..enjoyed it!

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

I am not sure where they are making the Haslab Unicron. At this point they have not said anything about it being delayed but time will tell. Thanks

[@monkeyguy80]

I'm going with Xtransbots Menasor and I will buy them later this year. 🤔

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

That set looks good and I look forward to seeing how it stacks up to DX9. Thanks

[@monkeyguy80]

@@tydiriumhanger1320 😏

[@ArionRDAW]

Jinbao, please upscale TFM Havoc.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

I have heard great things about that set. Thanks

[@TransDrummer1312]

MakeToys made a Computron, Quantron

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes that one does look good! Thanks

[@kohnfutner9637]

Hey Mike are you going to get the devil savior troublemaker (movie devastator)?

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

No I am not in on that set although it does look great! Thanks

[@louieattina445]

How about a good version of IDW Monstructor

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

There have been many collectors talking about wanting that lately. Thanks

[@Bigdaddyweese]

I’m waiting on a Legends scale combiners Other than Bruticus and Devastator

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Preorders are up for Magic Square Menasor at ShowZ. Looks to be a good version for legends. Thanks

[@HelterSkelter199]

I'm solidly in the 18" chug scale gestalt camp with JJ Superion and Jinbao Devastator to go with Siege Omega Supreme and Skyfire. Next on my hit list in UT Ragnaros but I don't know what I'm going to do about Menasor. XTB Monolith might be my best shot if he ends up being the shortest of the current crop. I have no nostalgic connection to Defensor or any of the s3/4 combiners so they are off my radar.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes 18 inch is a good scale for combiners and I was going that direction until Zeta and Toyworld had to go change everything. Thanks

[@dameionwilson9359]

20int

[@DragoonMS]

The only MP scaled Combiner I really want is the Jinbao "Builder.D" oversized KO of Generation Toy "Gravity Builder". I mean, Megatron *HAS TO* have the Constructicons...that there's about as necessary as having Soundwave, Shockwave, and the Seekers. It's a bit of a wabbit hole there, however...Starscream's gotta have his Bruticus, etc. Speaking of which, I dare more companies to step up with undersized KOs!! KuBianBao MP10V is amazing, the Cool Become Brave CW Devastator rocks, we need more!! There's an oversized KO of the Maketoys Guardia...still doesn't quite fit, from what I've seen. Worse yet, _possibly_ due to the way it was designed, it's not the most stable thing (apparently, neither was the Maketoys). As for the oversized KO of PotP Abominus...hopefully the Combiner pegs & ports are the same size like how the Black Mamba oversized PotP Dinobots are...then I have to only get their Hun-grr (the only Terrorcon I need anyway)...yesss.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

I always wondered why they bother KO OS figures that are not quite big enough. I still hope the KO OS Abominus is big enough. Thanks

[@DragoonMS]

@@tydiriumhanger1320 Yeah, I'd hope that the full OSKO Abominus is a great size, too. Five Voyagers and a Leader should do it...but if those Combiner ports and posts are the same size, then I only need that Hun-grr; I already have the normal size Cutthroat, Blot, Sinnertwin, & Rippersnapper...I'd hate to have to go in on them all over again.

[@SkotNealey]

i don't really need Taller...i don't live in a mansion

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes Space does become an issue! Thanks

[@aliasangelalias]

Going with 20" Zeta Toys but living with Takara Tomy Devy.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

I still love the look of that Devy! Thanks

[@walkers198]

Man, got Mmc, Toyworld, gen toy, and xtb, and still cannot combine any of them yet. TW - started collecting late and lacking 3. U know anyone selling, let me know.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

I was late to the Toyworld also so I went with a set. You may also check some of the TF Facebook groups. I never liked the idea of buying combiners one limb at a time in fear that the set may not ever get completed. Guess I got over that fear. Thanks

[@dreaddragon9497]

I live and die by CHUG. Plus I'm currently unemployed so not really buying anything. Do like to keep up on the high end stuff, though. Like to treat myself every so often.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

The Mainline CHUG is better than ever right now. I look forward to many of those releases myself. Thanks

[@Atlas-hu9wk]

Indeed CHUG have come along. Now if they could release new combiners with the same quality as siege/earthrise. I never bother with 3p, sure they're nice but very pricey and in the end they are going be doing the exact same thing as Hasbro's picking up dust in our shelves.

[@TornaitSuperBird]

Atlas Combiner Wars was an okay experiment, but those torso bots... oof. I’d however love a combiner with the quality of Earthride and Siege at CHUG scale. Masterpiece, maybe... Siege/Earthrise? As well as sturdy and able to take a few hard knocks? Sign me up.

[@Atlas-hu9wk]

@@TornaitSuperBird That line had a lot of quality issues. And for some reason That torso mold from Silverbot has been done to death.

[@seanclapper9965]

"computer commander" I just laughed so hard that the coffee I was drinking came out my nose. Ideally, I like combiners that when decombined the bots fit on my mp shelf. But then again I don't like spending an entire paycheck (or at least a huge chunk of a week's pay) on one. I'm good with the jinbao Bruticus, but do wish Zeta weren't so costly. That said I keep eyeing that DX9 Motormaster......

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes Combiners get expensive especially if you look at each set as one figure as that is how most display these. Thanks

[@SoundwaveNL1977]

I chose the Fanstoys versions. Only own the Toyworld Devy and think the FT figs will scale with him. Sold the XTB Stunticons. They just didn't do it for me. Hopefully the FT combiners will be a win and they will continue with Defensor and Bruticus. After that Computron and Abominus and finally the best Predaking ever seen. Fingers crossed 🤞🏻

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes Fanstoys will look great just the question of stability. It still perplexes me that no one is making a Computron or Abominus in bigger scale. Thanks

[@SoundwaveNL1977]

@@tydiriumhanger1320 yeah stability may be a problem. But we'll see. Yeah that questions me as well. Fanstoys will do them mark my words. Have a good weekend

[@alc4528]

I want a zeta bruticus with fall of cybertron colors

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

That would look cool! Thanks

[@GhostRider-870]

What is going on with shipping outta China?!?! Have they all gone back to work? We are at a standstill until that gets figured out over there

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Shipping as resumed as far as I know. I have not had any preorders arrive in stock yet though. Thanks

[@existentialismtyrant5722]

Zeta is excellent and it’s a shame they put all their chicken in one basket and yes their combiners are where it’s at, parts forming or not. Fanstoys will be heavy so hopefully the joints and ratchets they use can sustain the weight. The dx9 menasor is awesome. We already went thru that. The legs don’t bother me on because it’s toon accurate and looks better in person as previously stated. Combiners are my favorite sub line of the transformers. They need to do a toon accurate defensor. Couple ok ones out there nothing special. Computron abominus defensor and raiden can all get an overhaul and start from scratch. Liokaiser and seacons tfc does a decent job and I like them both but scale wise they are too small imo. Hopefully zeta gets some funds and start up their combiner line. They do a great job. Xtransbot looks like I will use them as individual bots and I am ok with that cuz they are toon accurate

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

I am right there with you for a good defensor! Yes Zeta is good at making combiners and for a great price so they need to get back in the game full force. Thanks

[@thatboyj2717]

Quick question Mike will show z send me a email when they ship my order. Great video thx.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

They do not send me emails when items ship but you can check the status under My orders or My Preorders tabs and that will update when items ship. Not sure if there is a way to turn on alerts though. Thanks

[@kyllerkill]

Mmc is the proper size for a masterpiece. For me. I don’t think they should be over 20” to stay in scale. I’m in on xtransbots and fanstoys. But only for the bots. Parts forming is not a true transformer to me so the companies that do it aren’t even a option for a combiner. They just aren’t that good in my opinion.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

MMC engineering is impressive but I have come to grips with accepting partsforming for these combiners. If displayed right any of these scales of combiners can work. Thanks

[@lowellmartens6135]

My Zeta Superion is weak in the knee bots. Mine took a head over heals tumble off its table from the knees giving out and bust up pretty good. Overall I'm not that impressed with my copy.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Sorry to hear that about your Superion. I do admit I put him on a shelf and seldom ever mess with him so it may be a case of loosening up over time and use. Thanks for sharing

[@EvilCerealBoX]

Kronos or is it superitron?

[@bobby101a]

Too many choices..... everyone seems to have an idea how big combiners should be . G1 combiner were only as big as the story there were in. Everyone so caught up in scale.... while some combiners should be lop sided because of their parts....Speaking to you Bruticus and Defensor LOL. I pick what speaks to me and what the wallet can afford. TLK showed us not all combiners have to be 50 FT tall. Infericus wasn't as big. But who knows? You always have great thought provoking questions and topics. The next question is bigger mean more room and more $$$$.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Scale will always be a debate with this hobby along with the parts forming aspect. Yes space becomes an issue really fast when you get into these bigger bots for sure! Thanks

[@cliftonsmith4013]

I'm gonna be the one to go out on a limb and say it; War for Cybertron needs combiners like Menasor, Superion, Bruticus, & Computron. I know, they had figures from the Combiner Wars line but they sucked, let's all be honest. Not thinking about FansToys combiners. Would like to see Zeta Toys get it together because their combiners are king!!! Was really looking forward to that Raiden. I need to get my hands on a Combiner Wars Devastator. The MMC combiner offerings only look good as individual robots, too small next to Zeta. Might work for War for Cybertron though. Rising Force needs to come with a cheaper price point or show some promo pics of something else they're working on.

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Hasbro making new combiners is a double edged sword. They could use new engineering and make a more G1 ish design but then all the older stuff will be far less desirable. Wait Hasbro does not care so I bet they might make them. Thanks

[@TornaitSuperBird]

Tydirium hanger It’d really be more with what Takara is going on.

[@Atlas-hu9wk]

I do wonder if the corona virus is going to affect 3p?

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

It already has slowed production and pushed back many releases. It really is too soon to know the full impact though. Thanks

[@thugg4lif]

Dx9 has big legs xtb has small legs 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

That is true. Dx9 in super stable also so I wonder now how Stable XTB will be in combined mode. Thanks

[@suprasport9118]

Ha!!! 55lbs Roadking...imo the problem is the Scale is all over the place. IMO The only companies that are doing it right is Fanstoys and Dx9. The Xtransbots Gravestone when compared to the rest of the Team seems silly. They're like almost in 2 separate scales. There Motormaster is Huge and the rest of the team are like upto his waist. The MMC ocular max Combaticons are all beautiful and definitely are worth picking up just for there Bot modes. Forget about there combine mode, is just too small. Personally I think his proportions are a bit off! Too. The legs seem to be way too separated at the hips. In some pics he looks okay and in others he looks odd! Almost like his legs are too long! Only if they would of gone with the Parts forming!!..smh!! Zeta toys kronos and Bruticus are amazing. But like you said bot modes are garbage. They were out of there minds on tryng to tackle Haslab Hasbro Unicron. Zeta needs to focus on there materials and quality. I think Zeta tries to bite more than they can chew. As always great video!♥️

[@tydiriumhanger1320]

Yes the scale is all over the place. I tried to make sense of all this for myself and also to share with others. The flip side to that is there are many collectors that really can not display the bigger ones and having smaller options are good for them. Thanks

[@suprasport9118]

@@tydiriumhanger1320 agreed! Options are good!:0)