Math Hoffa & Vlad Argue Over Taxstone & Troy Ave Beef that Ended with Banga Dead (Part 21)

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Math Hoffa touched on incidents of violence in the music industry, including a confrontation where Troy Ave allegedly sent Banga to attack an unsuspecting victim on stage. Math Hoffa defines the incident as an act of defense for the brand that feeds all artists, given the criticism and potential threats to their work. The controversy surrounding Troy Ave's Makonnen freestyle and the subsequent violent reaction exposes a division in the hip-hop community over the issue of territoriality and ownership of beats and lyrics, highlighting industry tension and the potential for further conflict among artists. As the discussion continues, the pair reflect on decisions made and their potential impacts on artists' careers and reputation, particularly in the context of battle rap.

[@chozen9]

Yo is Math the first to bring the drum set to life during an interview 😂

[@brandan2468]

My dumbass use to think it was a backdrop 😂

[@504Trey]

Math think he slick wearing that MMG hat on Vlad show even though he has no ties to MMG 💀

[@erik.713]

DJ Yella actually played with the drum set during his interview. It was pretty dope.

[@SWOTHDRA]

Facts

[@rainman1985]

​@@504Treyhow u know??

[@Supreme.Promoters]

Math is 100% correct. Whether it’s biased or not. Why show up to somewhere that makes you feel uncomfortable? Why go somewhere that makes you feel the need to bring a weapon? There’s levels to life. 💯

[@bigmaine8759]

Super biases

[@dianevrules]

You are talking like a street dummy. Most of the USA citizens do not think like street dummies. So that street dummy bs is only accepted in the hood. Not in the real world. I know you heard this saying: "Sticks and stones make break my bones. But words should never hurt me." IDGAF wtf Tax said. No one should assault him over words, tough talk, etc., unless they plan to go to prison/jail or deal with self defense weaponry. Also, Tax had a right of freedom to go anywhere he wants. No one should assault over words.

[@jack604]

Tax was looking for trouble, that was his whole life's mission, that's why he lost an eye, and vlads too ignorant to admit it

[@randyhairis2715]

By law he should have had armed security. Thats it. He can wherever (not anymore) he wants.

[@travelbizz920]

Taxstone should be free today!

[@dcdevio]

I’m not a Math Hoffa Stan, but he won every round of this 13 minute verbal sparring match. Call it like I see it. 💯

[@thadonjuan2339]

No he didn't

[@dcdevio]

@@thadonjuan2339 👍🏾

[@ivanmaslovalzugaray3995]

I love math hoffa as a battle rap AND podcaster. Don’t agree though. Troy should be charged with felony murder. When u try to make an illegal move and someone dies in the process, even if it’s your homie killed by an opp or a cop, the law says ur responsible for that person dying. Makes perfect sense

[@june61999]

He ain’t win shit he just in his feelings because his friends got clapped because troy bitch ass sent him to attack the wrong nigga

[@romeo4106]

Exactly

[@gpme2867]

Side note: Math wearing a MMG hat on Vlad TV is INSANE 😂😂😂😂😂 Next level top tier trolling

[@honeysosweet608]

😂😂😂😂 I was saying the same thing

[@bringinthedope5929]

Dawg, I was wondering why he was wearing that, you just reminded me of that incident lmao. Holy shit

[@Dabbindavid]

@@bringinthedope5929what incident

[@bringinthedope5929]

@@Dabbindavid Rick Ross and his crew beat Vlad up over a decade ago and Vlad filed a 4 million dollar law suit. Math wearing a MMG hat , a label which Rick Ross owns, is pure troll shit 🤣.

[@tjdastunna7563]

Math Hoffa standing on business. He definitely got my respect after this 1.

[@Zooboomafoo87]

That’s cuz you’re a clown.

[@BlackJohnnyCage]

I've watched Math do & say some wild shit during his battle rap career but to see this growth is beautiful. Salute to Math Hoffa🫡

[@mr.makedonija2627]

I know u only referring to him snuffing diz 😂😂😂😂😂

[@BlackJohnnyCage]

@@mr.makedonija2627 Hell nah, that nigga has a rap sheet of bullshit😆

[@boepaynepill318]

@@mr.makedonija2627 I bet you hide your meth in your ass just so the cops can play in it when they search you 😅

[@boepaynepill318]

@@mr.makedonija2627 you worried about rappers while wyte catholic priest treating little WyteBoys like Gay Adult movie stunt doubles 😅

[@boepaynepill318]

@@mr.makedonija2627 you just a transgender KZbin avatar with a blank profile pic,😅

[@gbautista100]

Finally someone speaking the truth on this whole situation

[@elijahparis-salmon9943]

About Time.

[@NIggalyin]

Troy actually spoke about everything in details. Vlad is bias toward Tax cuz he hates Joe Budden and Tax pressed JB before.

[@NIggalyin]

And still talks shit about JB till today behind bars so Vlad is just riding that’s shit. These are facts.

[@saab2906]

What truth this guy started talking about how he had a dream Troy ave got a gay punched in the face and y’all tryna talk for him it’s crazy

[@angeljh20]

By far best interview that has Glad stuttering 😂😂

[@tychikawa2417]

This is why I don’t like Vladimir! He knows Tax was wrong but his ego won’t let him admit it smh 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@Bane5393]

You don't like him but support his content. Yea, that makes sense

[@thadonjuan2339]

He said Taxstone was wrong dummy. Learn to listen

[@machomusprime50]

Then he tells Math that HE has an excuse for everything Troy does.... As if he's not doing THE EXACT SAME THING for Tax. The hypocrisy. 😂😂😂😂

[@Awbskure3am]

Yet you’re here 😂😂😂

[@thadonjuan2339]

@Awbskure3am Exactly thats what I'm saying. Hate is just misplaced admiration. People on the internet proved that to be right every day.. Lol

[@_MoneyMike_]

Safe to say this will be Math’s last time on Vlad 😂😂😂😂

[@realness2628]

Vlad you cant go back and forth with someone who was in a actually beef with tax and someone who actually lost extended family in the incident. You have no right.

[@jackjill8129]

Right no matter who he or we thinks was right or wrong it doesn't matter. Math is actually deeply connected to the situation.

[@reaverofhearts7657]

He brought a weapon in a green room full of women. Nuff said!

[@Loch1210]

Math related to banga

[@Steezy-qt9uo]

Agree on a thousand fr . Vladimir tapped for even saying some

[@YXOG]

Vlad has 0 self awarness

[@paydash05]

Yooooo😂😂😂😂 i always thought the drum kit was a greenscreen background until math just hit the cymbal😂😂😂

[@LMCMedia2]

Vlad your off on this! Math is right and Tax got exactly what he was looking for.

[@JDMHaze]

yeapppp 😂😂

[@666ofdoom]

Facts

[@miguel10468]

Yep 35 year 😂😂😂😂

[@اَنوار-غ4م]

Math was a bully in the battle rap field. Sucker punching little dudes. I’m not saying Tax was right, I’m just saying Math is the wrong person to be speaking on bullying.

[@theimpeccable1069]

BIG FACTS!! Gma saying.. 💯You get what your looking for!! 🤣 (Stop messing with them bees.. Ok, NOW your ass is stung MULTIPLE times!.. You get what your looking for!! 🤣 BIG FACTS!! 💯)

[@AliFrankTheTank]

“What do you think he was there for ??!!?!?!” Glad: *talks in circles*

[@leon3ev]

I thought the background was green screen until Math slapped the cymbal

[@HooodClassicsTV]

If Vlad don’t like you. He won’t just not talk about you like any real person. Instead he’ll keep talking about every negative thing to your name

[@kingmemf4002]

Except Ricky Rozay 😂😂

[@greg8622]

Lol yup same thing he does with Kayne 😂

[@iseerashonal821]

Wont even make logic. He's like a scorned bish

[@latricetaylor7928]

As he should. Why would I praise someone I don’t like?

[@Rap__GPT]

He also loves Tax so Ave is in for a lifetime of Vlad slander 😂

[@dextersfinest175]

Math: "You'll fistfight someone, right?" Vlad: 😶😶😶

[@aboutmillions]

Vlad was emotional the entire time, s/o to Hoffa for exposing Vlad for being manipulative & biased on his platform.

[@ch33zybreadtrellie4]

@aboutmillions Word. U can tell with some of vlads responses, he sat back in his chair like “nope 😤😑” as tho his emotions wouldn’t let him hear shit out. Already had his mind made up. Even with the “it doesn’t matter!!!”

[@gloriempaka9474]

Like Math is never emotional or bias 😂lol cut it out

[@keronpaige9013]

“That’s a home invasion” 😂😂😂

[@duanelee522]

Vlad tells the SAME STORIES all the time, he was mad Math wasn't agreeing 😂

[@lewisbolton7766]

MATH REMINDS ME OF ME WHEN I ARGUE. NO STONE UNTURNED. ANALYSIS EACH SITUATION. BIG UP MATH

[@thadonjuan2339]

😂 LOL!

[@SayWhat336]

Sounds like a female not a man lol

[@ajaxmcjones9387]

You ain't math you goofy internet fanboy

[@LAshades]

You can’t spell analyze.

[@kooh301]

Sus

[@catrellbailey5887]

Math made it perfectly clear at the end. If you're too afraid to fight then you should watch what you say and keep it respectful.

[@genetallen7130]

Vlad is low key saying Banga got what he deserved and Taxtone didn't.!!! ....Which is Ridiculous.

[@Anthonyistheone]

He kinda did tho. You put your hands on somebody you can't control their reaction.

[@youngcity4241]

He punch him in the face in florida Tax would of walked away

[@GwuacNSalza]

He Got EXACTLY what he Deserved.

[@Lee-qx2dv]

@@youngcity4241 not true. A black Ex-con gang member in Florida is not getting stand your ground for shooting someone who punched them.. maybe a middle aged white man like Vlad, but not a young aggressive black man. Florida prisons are full of Taxstones. Look how hard Travis Rudolph had to fight his case and they actually had guns and jumped him

[@MrSleeplessnights]

Look at all these hard dudes in the comments 😂😂😂 hard dudes that can't fight 😂😂😂 Americans are so scary. Nobody wants a humbling but everybody wants to be super tough. If Taxstone was down for a fight, he would be a free man today. Very simple. But everybody saying banga got what he deserved??? Scary Asses 😂

[@_MoneyMike_]

I got so much respect for Math after this interview

[@pkc11d]

Math is 100% right on this one. Tax got exactly what he was looking for that night. It is a sad situation all the way around as Tax had a bright future in podcast and someone lost their life when this whole situation could’ve been avoided. Also, this interview makes Vlad look so ignorant as he is taking all measures to defend Tax even when it contradicts views that he has preciously shared in other situations.

[@wavegodjay4940]

No he not I was their buddy came looking for problems and got smoked

[@MentalPhysicality]

@wavegodjay4940 you’re skipping over the fact he went to the concert strapped up as if he knew he was gon run into them and it would be problems. If you’re that scared to face the people you speakin on stop speakin on them or don’t go places where you know they gon keep the same energy on you. He wouldn’t have came in lookin for problems had tax not started problems to begin with

[@wavegodjay4940]

@@MentalPhysicality I believe that tax was strapped everywhere he went. It was no exception to this event. Don’t try to insinuate like he was strapped up because he premeditated this.

[@MentalPhysicality]

@wavegodjay4940 if TI and Troy Ave were close or doing business, this is an event he knew he was gon probably run into him. and even if tax kept it on, you not keepin it on you for no reason

[@wesleymills560]

Taxstone wasn’t the aggressor though

[@KennBel]

lmaooo the real nigga line had me rollin Math

[@betterdays29]

MAN I BUST OUT LAUGHING WHEN MATH HIT THE DRUMS LOL

[@qdotpdot7096]

Peace buddy ✌️😩

[@Naija_baba]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 PEACE DUMMY

[@grim205]

😂😂😂

[@alonzodent489]

Math earned my respect!

[@aaronquattlebaum554]

It was over for vlad when Math hit the drum set! 😂😂😂 lol

[@santoslopez8357]

Math doing big things with his podcast. From bully to bisuness man. 💪🏾💯

[@raymondreddington3572]

7:44 - it’s ironic cos the reason Math Hoffa used to beef with Taxstone, it’s the same one Charleston White used when he was beefing with Math Hoffa!!!! 😂😂🤣🤣

[@milagrosbreijo628]

2:43 why MATH said "taxstone" lip talk so.....quiet 🤫🤐 😂🤣💯

[@kennyb.729]

Math Hoffa is 100% Right ✅️

[@amareharris2797]

False

[@himimart8491]

I love when ppl can’t hide their biases

[@originalethemc6574]

Math is well in his right to feel the way he feels and he's definitely entitled to his own opinion.....but that don't make it right. But it's always right to support the people you love.

[@danteprice1874]

💯

[@MosheXX]

If NYC allowed concealed carry, Tax still wouldn’t be allowed to cary as a felon. And even if NYC did allow concealed carry and Tax wasn’t a felon, he still wouldn’t be allowed to bring it into a performance venue. And if by some happenstance he was allowed to bring it into a venue two people other than Banga were shot. The law in NYC would have had to change 3 times over for him to have a valid self defense argument. I’m just calling it how I see it

[@SupremeDynastyTV]

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@elliot2177]

That is NYC politics.Had it been a different state, he would have walked.

[@MosheXX]

@@elliot2177most states don’t allow felons to own firearms

[@elliot2177]

Do they truly enforce it?@@MosheXX

[@MosheXX]

@@elliot2177I’ve only lived in two states idk. But if it applies to an incident where 3 people were shot and one person died I’m sure it would be

[@SMOKEPOLETV]

Great interview. Math is super solid.

[@lowkeyasscharacter]

Taxstone a straight bully, Vlad acting like hes some innocent guy

[@enniso7452]

Translation of the last statement: If you not gonna stand up for YOURSELF stop talking that shit about people

[@dereomiebi977]

I LOVE YOU Math Hoffa Pause..

[@georgeblack24]

Vlad trying to defend Tax knowing Tax was dead wrong! He literally tweeted Troy Ave everyday harassing him!

[@OnGangsterD]

Tax got scared and had to do what only he knew to do lol shoot ! Sucka move

[@J.CashDro]

U should kno Vlad knos evrything about anything😂

[@kennedyliberty1304]

Wrong for defending yourself. Madness

[@WillOnCode]

How was tax wrong when they ran up on him in real life

[@kennedyliberty1304]

@@WillOnCode They just want to chat to feel valid bro I'm telling you

[@redwind3475]

yooooo, I thought that background was CG for YEARS, and all it took was Vlad pissing off Math enough to hit a symbol for me to learn the truth. 🙏

[@ephilliemusic]

Realest shit I heard bout this whole situation...MATH A REAL ONE!

[@SWHunte401]

Imagine if Glad said “Don’t bang my fuckin drum bitch” 😂😂😂

[@WiltChainburland]

I’d win the lotto before that happens lol

[@investmentsound902]

Naaaah son😂😂😂

[@ronpl8473]

Vlad is funny. He's comparing a home invasion with somebody that's challenging you to a fist fight.

[@ayo2315]

Love math’s logic ,real niggaz know ✊🏽💯

[@Xzay14]

Vlad need to stop acting like he knows what’s going on in the streets. And Tax don’t even fw him like he think I bet 😂

[@lethal5flow679]

This is what I say. You can tell Vlad thinks he's giving himself sum street credibility by saying "Tax is my man", when in reality he just sounds like a doofus.

[@bigrazzaa7579]

“Willie and Gallo”

[@troywoods1286]

Sean Bigga was the MasterLink to the Math Pod , now that he gone I'M GONE!!!! WORD

[@Jersey08110]

Lol..I knew Vlad was gonna say "I interviewed Tyson ..he wanted to fight me"

[@CommentGawd]

Ayooo. Muting saying the bull’s name is mad wild @2:45

[@mic2great]

I never thought I would say this but Vlad is 100% right.

[@dinksdad7751]

Sounds like 2 bullies ran into each other and these are the results

[@keysd31]

Glad u wrong on this one. Tax doing 35 for turning a podcast beef Into a street thing

[@willstaywinning]

“Who said it.” “well it doesn’t matter who said it.”

[@slippinjimmy9052]

I find math treating his team wrong like bigga but we are on the same side about taxstone

[@GzWorld]

Vlad has permanently removed the cymbal from the set after this interview.

[@FatherDear]

Math got Vlad flustered 😂😂😂

[@ch33zybreadtrellie4]

“It doesn’t matter who said it!!” Vlad was upset cuz he knew he was talkin out his ass

[@kidperk334]

Vlad: "he never said anything bad about me...." Yoooooooo 💀

[@jaronbridges4784]

This perspective is coming from a nigga who is aggressive and confrontational. The message is gold.

[@Hennyondarocks]

Tax had the gun he was the one on a dummy mission

[@keymoneyxl]

Thank You Math...Real One💯

[@Donnelius]

This was actually a good back and forth debate... but Math took it with what he said at the end. Game. Set. Match.

[@davonnlastique]

3:17 Vlad it was a benefit concert, why do you need a gun for self defense if you’re the only one with a gun?

[@isaiah102509]

Best reply ever we not in Florida

[@g-holy]

Vlad, Taxstone is not your friend.

[@LexParker-z1p]

Vlad if it happened in Florida, he wont get self defense because the gun will be illegal since hes already a convicted felon😂

[@albertblandshaw7790]

He would have gotten the felon in possession, but would have prevailed on the stand your ground and would have gotten time for the gun only not the Murder

[@bluecollarmedia]

No he would be guilty being a felon and bringing a gun in a venue with alcohol

[@tannerboy34]

Vlad always brings up the Mike Tyson interview…

[@HvrriMusic]

that drum hit was crazy

[@mopsicworldwide4646]

Math killed him on here 😂😂😂💯

[@Knowledge-vs6ti]

Man big salute to math Hoffa we neeed more niggas like you fr

[@chinoejio]

Taxstone couldn't take a punch so he pulls out a gun. I'm all the way there with Math. Finally someone sitting Vlad down with his bias.

[@5dollarshake263]

It wasn't a dummy mission, it was a duppy mission.

[@nowborn123]

👍🏾 for Math Hoffa

[@oscardagrouch5095]

4:40 | ✌🏽Dummy 😂

[@calamityjaames1]

Math slapped the shit out that cymbal 😭😭😭😭

[@Novelist1029]

“He’s never said anything bad about me.” Of course you like him Vlad. Y’all cut from the same cloth of drama.

[@s.c237]

Vlad asking math petty ass about someone he hates and expecting him to talk rationally about it is wild lol

[@javoncorley5744]

Vlad always trying to conveniently ignore that fact that Tax went up there with a pistol KNOWING TROY AVE WAS GOING BE PERFORMING THERE AND POSTED UP IN THE GREEEN ROOM KNOWING MORE THAN LIKELY HE WAS GOING TO HAVE TO COME THROUGH THERE…. And he was clearly scared to fight the nigga because in the whole place he the only 1 who needed to bring a gun in🤦🏽‍♂️ he instigated the situation by trying to be the tough guy and showing up to a place to cause problems…. He was talking shot to Troy ave for years online now Vlad want to act like he was just an innocent victim…. And the last point even if he was in Florida he would have went to jail because he was inside a venue that you’re not allowed to have a gun in…. If you have a gun in any place that serves alcohol even if you have a permit if the police caught you with it you can go to jail🤷🏽‍♂️😂so since the fact of him just being in their is a crime the would uphold stand your ground

[@tureign]

Vlad Hoffa debate show im here 4 it💪🏽💪🏽

[@DeV_Rob]

Vlad never mentions the fact that the gun was stolen

[@djshowout8001]

That dream math had is DEEEEP bro sometimes dreams have some meaning that’s crazy !!!!

[@ShabazztheGreaterTaker]

Calling Vlad an informant or FEDS at this point is wack. Artists and celebrities continue to show up for interviews with him and fans keep tuning in.

[@369pendulum]

People don't think he's fed. They call him that as an insult because he feels like an enemy.

[@ShabazztheGreaterTaker]

@@369pendulum Why insult him and then continue to be interviewed and entertained by him? That's my point.

[@judah-je1jm]

People watched the tv show Cops 👮‍♂️ ....

[@ShabazztheGreaterTaker]

@@judah-je1jm Ha! Very funny and good point. However, I never really heard the people who watch cops, First 48, and such show insult and criticize the cops or producers of the show, they understood the "Cops & Robbers" dynamics and were simply entertained. With Vlad, people insult him like they hate him, calling him an informant, FED, and culture vulture, yet he still has the hottest celebrities, rappers, and street dudes still do his show and people still tune in. So why insult him but then give him the interviews, views, attention, and energy?

[@lanceellis3863]

Gotta love Vlad bring his not of the culture perspective to have a passionate argument with the culture. Arguing with a BK cat over BK politics

[@JDMHaze]

vlad tryna equate a unrelated situation with Troy Ave to justify the Taxstone situation 😂😂, maybe Troy Ave is a bully, but he definitely wasn’t during the Taxstone situation.. Tax was BEGGING for this to happen.. this man had every way to avoid this situation by shutting TF up and never did

[@mmbeas]

💯💯I was waiting to see if somebody else noticed this. Like wtf do that Makonnen situation got to do with Tax

[@JDMHaze]

@@mmbeas He’s trying to use that portrayed, a character, which is true, however That is absolutely irrelevant to the situation, he should use that same logic with Taxstone, because Taxstone was equally, Problematic by trolling and antagonizing people for absolutely no reason…

[@GwuacNSalza]

Troy was Definitely TRYING to be The Bully, its Just Tax was A BIGGER Bully.

[@JDMHaze]

@@GwuacNSalza yeah, but tax definitely started this lol LED Stew was on videos, and Twitter forever antagonizing this dude,

[@deeabbott9270]

@@GwuacNSalza Bigger bully? Bro was so terrified that he even went to a mf club IN NEW YORK with a strap. Andddddd got it taken away from him. He's actually only alive because he's an expert runner.

[@jayb6170]

Vlad always try to create some hypothetical scenario to try to prove his point. Vlad be like supposed Taxstone and Troy ave shooting was in a club on the Mars do you think NASA would have Taxstone arrested

[@ch33zybreadtrellie4]

Exactly. Anything to fit his narrative. Any type of example

[@thebigtroll5584]

Math kept it 100

[@TheShop90sKids]

I hate how Math is copping please for every little thing. It's ok to say Troy and Tax both crashed out. Troy was going around trying to bully the industry like 50 Cent did back in the day and Tax was doing the same in a joking/roasting type way. Both grown men that were doing entirely too much instead of just focusing on their careers.

[@bigdawg508]

Most reasonable comment ive seen so far.

[@kofologysays490]

Oi I like how Math broke down his argument. Vlad just kisses Tax balls

[@youtubepolice9313]

4:40 nah somebody make this a sound 🤣🤣

[@kinggbean2]

Yall don't notice how VLAD flips the narrative to swing in his direction.

[@lalaskills3564]

Can someone tell me why they muted math saying tax stone name while in the middle of a conversation about tax stone… can’t make this up

[@HEADHUNTERSTV]

Math just wanna go against every point lol

[@hotrod8481]

Math on the question if Vlad is gonna fight, he is not. He's calling his security yo

[@Gre8Ness1023]

That Mike Tyson analogy wasn't the best for that argument lol😂

[@Gh0st_DogBlu76]

😂😂 Crazy how bad vlad running interferance for Tax, ya boy or not Tax played himself, dude was literally if moving fast and loose was a person

[@mrheavenbound9164]

This is my answer… Two people can be right. This is one of those situations.

[@SapphireKnightofWhiteLotusCity]

Math you real for what you saying... Harming people just to be considered real isn't worth sh*t... Hurting people isn't worth anything standard...

[@camper4591]

Yes Math, thank you for checkin vlad n this bias crap! love it!

[@CrazyJokersTV]

Vlad was about to say willy and gallo 😅