WHY DOES LORD JAMAR H8 EMINEM??? Simple question... not so simple answer! drop a comment!

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[@danas916x]

As a black man Jamar's logic is a bit off. I would ask him 'Then why do "we" determine the basketball goats? The sport was invented by a white man". But that didn't stop us from making MJ the goat of the sport. And plus Em is a goat cuz he's nice wit it

[@frankdatanksr6922]

@Ali Chaudhry Why you so racist and bigoted??? Annnnnnddddd, go.

[@Tumorcoach]

@Ali Chaudhry I would say your more special ed than he is with that long ass bull shit response

[@BESTPLACESTOGO333]

Facts

[@koguma.newyork1]

as a Black man you are a numbskull and your analogy was trash. We do not decide who the "GOAT" is in basketball, nobody does actually. It's just ammo for discussion.

[@allaboutthemurzic]

@Ali Chaudhry Not black people have the same experience though

[@ShawnWeeded510]

Lord Jamar makes the argument that records don't make you a goat. But he argues that Drake is the King based on sales. The arguments he makes are inconsistent and convenient to his narrative on some Fox News shyt.

[@Carlito1980]

There is no way LJ thinks Drakes the King lol

[@kvngamo205]

Drake is King and he is also a lyricist when he NEEDS to be and if you think otherwise than you just a hater on the low and want to diminish the man…..

[@Carlito1980]

@@kvngamo205 he's a great at singing

[@ricobe4tz]

@@kvngamo205 you sound like you about to cry lol… dude is for the women period.

[@seanmurdock2279]

@@Carlito1980 not even that his voice is just soft 😂

[@barrbarr31u]

Em just broke an 8 day streaming streak record with Houdini. You know Jamar is in his car fuming somewhere.

[@snoopy4749]

Absolutely SEETHING in his 2 bed apartment with his abused dog

[@percyvolnar8010]

... And hes living rent-free in your minds. Which is precisely where he wants to be.

[@SugeWhite45]

Rakim said Em is great that's all you need to hear.

[@shiningforce9033]

He was asked that from a white jounalist, that attened his show. Infact most are white ppl that attend Rakims shows , including the one where that white guy asked that em question. The whole industry is ran by jews. So why would he say anything different and bite the hand that supports him and his family. If you notice the only journalist that ask Ra those Em questions are whyte. Rosenberg asked Kool G Rap the same Em ?. So you can tell they need that validation amongst who we hold in hi reagard. Go back and watch when Arsenio was asking rappers about Vanilla Ice, youll notice they're responses are more Genuine.

[@SugeWhite45]

Comparing Vanilla to Em shortcut to thinking

[@shiningforce9033]

@@SugeWhite45 I dont understand your comment , but you missing everything in between vanilla and em is you not thinking at all.

[@dst1311]

I wonder the impact on society when Blacks stop lumping Jews in with Whites. Jews don't think they're White, but they seem to like when Blacks consider them White.

[@MrEAW56]

White rappers are better 🤷‍♂️

[@sincerecity1193]

We don’t talk about Eminem because of his record sell. I talk about Eminem because of his lyrical skill.

[@luddman77]

facts

[@hughcipher6229]

I was just about to post the same thing

[@chubbjack158]

Eminem is a good lyricist. But,he is not the GOAT! He is not top 25 of all time. Lord Jamar says who gets to make that determination.

[@hughcipher6229]

@@chubbjack158 🤣🤣🤣stop it

[@luddman77]

@@chubbjack158 stop smoking that lord jamar pack....

[@SUMBUDDIE801]

Jay said it best - I dumbed down for my audience to double my dollars They criticized me for it, yet they all yell "holla" If skills sold, truth be told, I'd probably be lyrically Talib Kweli Truthfully I wanna rhyme like Common Sense But I did 5 mill' - I ain't been rhyming like Common since

[@theonetheonly7195]

What song?

[@TheNaz1996]

Concise yet the words well put. Jay slick with it

[@bdasilva77]

@@theonetheonly7195 Moment of Clarity on The Black Album

[@MastaInferno]

True -- However, Common just achieved aspects of success that Jay hasn't yet even though is Dough stretches farther than ones imagination. Common has the 1st Emmy and other Accolades simply doing what he loves in the art of Lyricism -- point is, people gotta stop obsessing on Success that fits in a one size fits all -- cause rarely that ever happens in a cookie cutter way!

[@clayjohnson5812]

@@MastaInferno Fuck a Emmy Jay z a entrepreneur that got his hands on all type of shit He almost worth a billion dollars.Common nowhere close to Jay z level

[@MrBoyneboy]

Its weird that the people who Jamar calls the people who started hiphop respect Eminem more than him

[@alanduff1054]

Yes VERY...

[@mrlofi333]

How exactly did you come to this lord jamar was before em let alone apart of the golden age of hiphop

[@alanduff1054]

@@mrlofi333 are you serious?

[@EASTS1DE420LA]

Facts he is just salty and mad.

[@EASTS1DE420LA]

Jamar can't speak for all black people. Music is music it has no color.

[@xHopshotx]

Rakim himself said Eminem is a GOAT and Lord Jamar is just a pissed off rapper that never made it.

[@IAmHeartbreak_]

I can tell who's actually listened to a full Eminem project and who's just reacting off the singles. Eminem is a real MC who has always gave props to the Black Emcees and he's been fully transparent that Black People saved his life. Plus the way he's rapping at age 48 on his last project is crazy! He's a GOAT This concludes my TED Talk

[@aoleary5213]

Well said. People always talk about his first singles. And he just keeps getting better and more complex.

[@GLEAMpbs1914]

Man GTFOH! Nobody around me listens to EM!

[@TheJourneyofAll]

This is the very point Lj was making. We don't fw him that's why we never listened to a full album

[@seds94]

​@@TheJourneyofAllwho's we? Em is one of the most streamed artists on Spotify

[@The-waves886]

2Pac is the GOAT not Eminem even Eminem know’s that, he even copied Hit ‘Em Up he was the best selling artist of his time and is still one of the best selling artist till this day 27 years after his death and he was only 25 shame he passed away so early

[@earlwilliamsjr4817]

It's that's his answer to not liking EM, then he must hate Drake too because his fans are mostly pop fans too.

[@njinhere]

Yup they both in the same boat lol

[@MichaelBrown-ti1un]

He's ridicules Drake too. I don't agree with alot of Lord Jamar's takes, but he is consistent on this topic. He name dropped MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice as two guys who sold millions of records, tho I don't put Em in that box. Em's body of work, and reverence for hip hop history earns him more respect in my book.

[@earlwilliamsjr4817]

@@MichaelBrown-ti1un fax. We all know why he hates EM. He will never mention Drake.

[@arighteousname5882]

@@earlwilliamsjr4817 he dont fuck with Drake either. Hes said it multiple times. Just because Drake sell alot of records dosent make him a GOAT. Especially when he dosent even write his own shit. Jamar has been pretty consistent with his reasoning.

[@lulanononwo6276]

@@earlwilliamsjr4817 factssss drake that nigga.

[@Cuba.023]

As a Puerto Rican man who first fell in love w hip hop such a notorious big, big pun, jay z, dmx, Eminem is a real mc son has a menacing flow especially during his prime. The beats eminem produced i never even had no idea and that just make him a goat to me. I just don’t mess w his super sonic spitting flow but that’s cus he’s older now lmaoo

[@steveon7y]

lol super sonic flow 😂😂

[@diz0baby]

Coming from a dude that no chance has listened to all Ems stuff. Not just singles, albums, but all joint projects, collab albums, guest verses, ALL of it. Thousands of bars that never lose. You could start a list of bangers during breakfast, and go to bed still listening to greatness. That's the difference.

[@eddiezS5]

Eminem is ok. But he's for little white kids. This is white Corney rap.

[@micahwest2793]

Eminem is a student of the game and has always gave props to the people who came before him. You don't have to like what Eminem raps about but if you don't respect how he does it you're just hating. Don't take my word for it just ask Rakim or Big Daddy Cane or Ice Cube or J Cole or Kendrick Lamar.

[@jeremiahwilliams7630]

Ask Rakim or Big Daddy Kane or kool g rap to Name at least 3 Eminem songs they like, bet they can’t tell you.

[@yam034]

All he said was that records sells alone don't equate to greatness! He didn't say the eminem was wack. He knows eminem is nice he just doesn't agree with him being a GOAT

[@jeremiahwilliams7630]

@@yam034 Eminem himself properly don’t think he’s the Goat.

[@nicktronson2977]

@@jeremiahwilliams7630 That's a HUGE assumption. I bet my life they can name 3 Eminem songs they like.

[@jeremiahwilliams7630]

@@nicktronson2977 they all say he’s a Dope lyricalist, that’s pretty much it, ask them what Eminem Albums they mostly listen to from beginning to end.

[@gvetech]

Em looks up to Redman, Treach, Masta Ace, Nas, Pac, Jay and 'em. He respects real hip-hop. Don't know what the hell Lord Jamal is talkin' 'bout.

[@Carlito1980]

First off its Lord Jamar. Secondly Lord Jamar is talking about how Eminems music doesnt resonate for blacks. Em raps about having sex with his mom, prescription pills and suicide... that's all.

[@ThatOneGuyAround]

@@Carlito1980 You must not listen to eminem to put his whole entire discography into a box with just those 3 topics

[@Carlito1980]

@@ThatOneGuyAround do you not get what im trying to say you mook. Em just doesnt rap about stuff that relates to blacks generally speaking

[@ThatOneGuyAround]

@@Carlito1980 Bruh who are you to say what other people as individuals relate to and enjoy?

[@alvianpmp7306]

@@Carlito1980 rock bottom

[@jennyjenfromdablock]

I love Eminem and I think he is definitely one of the great ones of his time and he is a lyrical genius to me. It’s sad to see people still on black and white. We all human.

[@blahzayy]

We are not all human

[@jennyjenfromdablock]

@@blahzayy True Indeed

[@ssteel3]

lol @ we all human. If we ALL human why are black people in America still at the bottom of the barrel you CLOWN. Take that human crap somewhere else Brad

[@jennyjenfromdablock]

@@ssteel3 You are part of the problem with your ignorance.

[@kennethoginaland1255]

Am a black man and i love eminem i only listen to him why? Cause he is that good verry sensible verry relatable but cause of his success and how good he is people hate him that much

[@fredrikxx2867]

Imagine creating a nickname.. Starting with LORD 😂

[@derrickzorns6506]

Lord Jamar act like Eminem treat hip hop like it’s a joke or something but Eminem can rap better than most of these rappers he’s a true lyricist and gives props to the people that inspire him

[@Rio-er5cr]

Em is trash. I’m from Detroit by the way!!

[@rubenflores2254]

​@@Rio-er5crkid rock is from Detroit too so 😂😂

[@Rio-er5cr]

@@rubenflores2254 tbh 90 percent of black men don’t listen to that bs. Em isn’t for me

[@mzmav720]

I wanted Smoke to say out loud I rap like this cause I'm from HARLEM 😂

[@MOFsquadron]

"Why be a lyricist?" Lyricists write like that for other lyricists just like Jamar said. When I got into rapping, I wanted to write rhymes that Inspectah Deck would hear and think "Not bad son." That's it. I wanted to be as good as the people that blew me away. Once I heard REAL lyricism for the first time, I couldn't even listen to the mainstream shit anymore. I never went back. It sounded like garbage to me. Lyricism is for other lyricists. It's for your peers.

[@mickie5530]

He’s logic is off bro

[@zimareconiz]

Dude is the saltiest hater I've ever seen. Every interview clogging arteries.

[@pculiarmuzik3496]

Jamar's gonna say a buncha contradictory shit when speaking on Em. He'll dance around, back pedal, hit us with the whole "but see here's the thing" and all that shit. He simply doesn't like him. Maybe he feels like Em's on some old Elvis type shit...just another white boy stealing black music and becoming bigger that the blacks he stole it from. Who knows, but whatever the case...he's got some serious and often petty disdain for Mr. Marshall Mathers.

[@jayc5756]

Exactly! I know thee exact reason why he dislikes Em. He hates other rappers with that same skin color...and automatically assumes and puts that on Em....when anybody that been knew Em and followed his career from the beginning....we already know he's not like those typical white rappers. But LJ is just funny in that way with all of his assumptions. But its whatever. Lol

[@BruceKendallMartinJr]

@Terence Johunkin u buggin... rock bottom aint pop its for the culture... infinite was for the culture... em always been for the culture... u dont speak for us that actually live it

[@BruceKendallMartinJr]

Jamar a old racist... it is what it is

[@jayc5756]

@@BruceKendallMartinJr I was just listening to Infinite. Like to hear that old young broke hungry Eminem every once n a while. Lol

[@BruceKendallMartinJr]

@@jayc5756 that song might be his best still... at least top 5 of the catalogue and that's saying something

[@ay33773]

Jamar saying he doesn’t hate Em then proceeds to explain he hates Em

[@shadopard7527]

Gotta love the racist hypocrisy.

[@percyvolnar8010]

Lord Jamar contributed more to the culture than you... Hes earned the right to say whatever the hell he wants about whoever....

[@justinschadlich]

@@percyvolnar8010 lord who?

[@percyvolnar8010]

@@justinschadlich the same lord you allow to live rent-free in your mind.

[@justinschadlich]

@percyvolnar8010 yeah but who you talking about?

[@06mikerome]

You dont gotta like Eminem or his music but you have to give him the respect he deserves…what he’s done for the genre and the respect he gives it in return (look at his rock and roll hall of fame speech) merits that…to deny him if that would be a perfect example of what hating is all about

[@king_chpp8379]

He gave us what

[@lltipsy]

I never liked eminem like that growing up bcus his songs was never my thing, but he for sure up there with the greats top 10

[@andrewilliams4180]

No I don't 😅

[@KingKoopa1]

Eminem isn't a real rapper... He's a pop star. Just like Vanilla Ice.

[@donaldfranklin1438]

Great post brothers.

[@est.inthe80s]

Lord Jamar is right record sales dont mean nothing to real hip hop heads only problem is eminem is a hip hop head and respected as a lyrical savant so yea he is Hating because eminems not the only lyricist that gets credit

[@alanduff1054]

Well said bro...

[@marlontherealemcee9733]

Lord really doesn't like Em, he don't. Because regardless on how he phrases it, he truly doesn't like him. Because it's countless interviews he's done on Vlad, that basically proves that.

[@rambo189]

Why though?

[@medicineman9647]

@@rambo189 😹bc he a racist and a clown

[@rambo189]

@@medicineman9647 yeah I know. Eminem has the approval and praise of most black artist. Jay Z, Dr Dre, Royce da 5’9, Joyner Lucas, lil Wayne, Fat Joe, 50 cent, Nate Dog just to name a few. And Kanye had to rewrite his verse after hearing Eminem’s verse on Forever. So what black culture is he on about. He a donkey of the century.

[@medicineman9647]

@@rambo189 He is way way more than that,I guess you don't know much about Marshall's catalogue you're new to his music?and it's okay 😹

[@marlontherealemcee9733]

@@rambo189 he got bodied by Em for one. And the fact that Em is white is another

[@Srsbzns_5150]

Racism just cuz it's a convenient argument is still wrong 💯

[@SneakyNinja837]

Math bro I love the content fr

[@1stNumberOne]

I look at it like sports. You have casual fans that watch and have a favorite team..but can’t name players in their roster. Cant name all starting players, don’t know the bench. Then you have FANS. That know all the players, stats, what college players came from etc. It’s the same with rap. Some people just like catchy music and tunes and some people are here for the REAL science. They want to hear crazy flows and rhymes and schemes. They’re really into rap..The lyricism and the message.

[@bbwolf326]

That's why the Em hate makes like zero sense though. Unless you saying Lord Jamal is a casual fan?

[@1stNumberOne]

@@bbwolf326 well em is a different case. I think Jamar is saying em is good and lyrical but his music isn’t that impactful to the culture. Like, em is probably better with words than J, but jays music has more impact and resonates more with the culture and people really living it, than em. It’s almost like em was goated by default or by suburban america but for people in the hood, really living what’s rapped about, he isn’t that important. I kind of agree. Like yea em is one of the best lyrical rappers but his message and what he represents only speaks to certain people. Killing your mom and your girlfriend prescription pills, suicide etc isn’t something most people feel or experience (although pills have become more of a problem the last few years). Like dudes grew up on Jay, nas, big, pac etc. although not as lyrical their music had more impact in the culture. I think that’s where em misses the Mark...

[@karthikb8714]

@@1stNumberOne i agree with u to a certain extent but saying he only raps about pills and killing his mom is not true.You do know that he has a large fanbase outside the US right? And that's because he has a lot of motivational and relatable songs like rock bottom,sing for the moment,guts over fear,lose yourself,phenomenal,when im gone,legacy etc

[@1stNumberOne]

@@karthikb8714 I’m not saying that’s all he raps about but his first two albums were in that space. I know, I have them. Unfortunately, other countries don’t define what hip hop is. It’s great that he had popularity outside the US but that’s Jamars point. The same way a Italian chef born and raised in Italy, with generations of cooks in the family, can tell you what real traditional Italian cooking is. It’s the same with hip hop. Em raps and he’s good with words but he’s not the soundtrack to people’s lives frfr. Not where it matters the most. You don’t play em at the club, at the cookout, at the strip club, in the trap, when your hustling, in the parking lot outside the club, at a family gathering, when someone dies, at the conscious meeting etc. like, he’s not IN THE CULTURE like that...

[@karthikb8714]

@@1stNumberOne ok i can respect that.I was just annoyed by this narrative that all he raps about is killing his mom and his fans somehow relate to it.The problem with eminem and lord jamar was that initially lord jamar's reaction to somebody saying em is the king of hiphop in that interview was like em himself said so.Thats why em went on to diss him.while i agree that many eminem fans feel like he is the only good rapper out there many people who have been solidified in hiphop has also mentioned eminem as a great .and that includes rakim,big daddy kane,kool g rap,black thought etc

[@iiitzHimmy]

He keeps saying "we decide" and we this and we that like he speaks for all black people.

[@AboveEmAllProduction]

he not only seems to speak for all black people but he also says all white people are the same.... man is just a racist point blank

[@rc70ys]

But they have spoken and agree he is the goat

[@TactiWolf1979]

So, according to his own "logic", Jamal didn't sell because he didn't put out anything to keep blacks listening. Eminem has touched the world. Its not just numbers, folks. He's also mad that he wasnt added to Ems Greats list.

[@KingKoopa1]

The point is, white people don't get to decide who the greatest rapper is, and subsequently put a white guy in the top spot over black people.

[@joojoobaw]

He did sell though. Jamar & Brand Nubian had a solid career, for longer than most groups are able to achieve

[@maralinekozial9131]

​@@joojoobaw lolz na nobody in the hood or anyone else listen to them niggaz 😂 the only rap groups that are still relevant to this day is Run DMC , NWA , Bone Thugs , Wu Tang , Three 6 Mafia , Geto Boys & Do Or Die !!!! Nobody cares about anyone else or goes to their shows plus Nubian never even sold a platinum record so idk what u talking about 😂

[@eivindgjengstjohansen9625]

Go ahead and hate on him but you can't deny that brand nubian's debut album is one of the most underrated rap albums...

[@TactiWolf1979]

@@eivindgjengstjohansen9625 underrated is another word for "didn't make a dent." They've never made anything that went #1. In fact, they never went past #24. And they are a group. Em did waaay better with D12 and solo.

[@bershonwiggins5500]

When you are telling your own story as a lyricist. A person would have to be there or live the line themselves that the lyricist quotes inorder to understand or relate to the story being told.

[@Cameo131]

8:45 6 foot 7 foot is an example. Highly lyrical track but no message at all. But that don’t matter. If it’s catchy or you can dance to it, it’ll be a hit.

[@bringinthedope5929]

True. Every song doesn't need to have a message to justify it's existence and attention. There's room for all types of moods. I remember Wayne expressing he wish he could approach music like biggie but I'm glad he is who he is. His dominant mixtape run didn't need story telling to solidify him

[@BruceKendallMartinJr]

oh yall mean like kid n play? or is this recency bias

[@rayhan3654]

Lol the level of contradiction and back pedalling that Jamar has done is outstanding. There is literally 50+ videos of him just talking about Eminem on Vlad's platform and 50+ more elsewhere. There is a video where he said that Nicki Minaj is a better rapper than em and even mentions 10+ others that are at best mediocre. (not saying Nicki can't spit, but this is just a wild opinion to hold lmao). He keeps saying things like: "people in the hood decide who is best." Yet, there is plenty of evidence that suggests that people were playing Em's music early in his career. Moreover, isn't it random to assert that the opinions of people who (without their choice) were born in the hood magically have a more valid opinion than someone else listening to the same music in a different neighborhood? Lmao Music falls under aesthetics and there is an objective measure of saying what's better or worse ... Having an opinion should not be anchored to your predetermined geography.

[@aim7304]

💯💯💯

[@Astonvman007]

You may have missed his point a bit. True hip hop is culturally a Black enterprise. However black people in most hoods do not typically visit record stores but their options tend to matter most in the genre because they are the target audience. The music was formed in those same hoods but what is successful in mainstream is appealing to a different audience. This is why rappers like Eminem have been very successful, despite not being backed up by the Black community. Sire, we know him and respect him, but majority of us don't buy his albums. But this metric alone Eminem will never be considered as one of the greatest in the Black community.

[@rayhan3654]

@@Astonvman007 Agreed, hip-hop is black culture ... But the moment you confess that rapping credibility is anchored to ones race and consequently the views prevalent in particular neighborhoods, then you divorce yourself from the fact that writing, flowing and producing require skill and competence. Ideally, you should be able to listen to music, in complete ignorance of the artists identity, and still comment upon the aesthetic value. I feel like you've used the term mainstream in an improper way so as to make it seem like Eminem became famous purely because of non-black support ... Eminem as well as: Jay z, Tupac, Nas, 50 cent, Lil Wayne, Kanye West and Snoop Dogg are the *most* mainstream rappers ever. Yet, not for a second would you suggest that these artists are famous purely because of their backing from the black community. Whenever a culture demands great public attention, the vast majority of its consumer base becomes from people that are external to the culture. HipHop would not be what it is today had it not been propelled beyond the hood (and this is a great thing: more ethnic minorities have become millionaires as a result of capitalising upon their musical talents).

[@ImpossibleIsNothin]

Ur misconstruing what Lord Jamar has said, and the amount of content he's spoken on Eminem. Yeah, there's 50+ videos of him talking about Em on VladTV...because Vlad was asking him questions about Eminem. Should LJ have just said, "I aint talkin about Em amymore, next question!" This is just conjecture, but I'm fairly certain that if he did that, Stans would rush to say that "Lord Jamar doesn't wanna talk about Em cuz he can't take the heat of Em's disses, or he doesn't wanna get the hard questions about Hip Hop & race!" or something like that. It's a "damned if u do, damned if u don't" scenario. LJ wasn't offering unsolicited opinions about Eminem, he was responding to questions from others. Even the whole reason he started talking about Em in the 1st place was cuz he was RESPONDING, not looking for smoke. Recall that LJ's whole "guest in the house of Hip Hop" metaphor (to describe the relation between race & Hip Hop) was something he initially stated as a criticism on MACKLEMORE; ppl then tried to pin LJ (for daring to call white ppl "guests" in Hip Hop) by retorting "Oh yeah, what about Eminem, is HE a 'guest' too?", and LJ stood his ground and said "Yeah Em's a guest too, he's not exempt." That's when this whole Eminem vs Lord Jamar "beef" kicked off, with Em subsequently dissing LJ in his album. Lord Jamar's main point is that Hip Hop is black culture, and record sales don't determine who is the best at Hip Hop, and outsiders to the culture should show some deference/respect to the culture & what the ppl [of the culture] say. I'm a black man, and a student of traditional Shaolin Kung Fu. Kung Fu is globally popular, and practiced by nearly all ethnicities. If some Chinese kung fu philosophers/masters at the Shaolin Temple have a debate about who is THE MOST influential/important figure in the history of kung fu, no one is saying I cannot have an opinion on the matter, but it would behoove me to have a respectful deference (or at least a respectful yielding of an impasse) with the actual cultural progenitors of the art. However, this is a FARCRY from how Stans jump on Lord Jamar's back for not being impressed by Eminem. He's automatically labeled a hater/racist/has-been. Even when Eminem dissed Lord Jamar, it wasn't for LJ saying "Em isn't in [his] top 50 MCs", it was specifically for LJ's statement about white ppl being guests in Hip Hop. Lord Jamar has acknowledged Eminem's skill (he even said Eminem is better than himself as an MC), but he personally doesn't rank Em as the GOAT, neither does he think Em's lyrical speed and technical prowess are enough to rank him as the GOAT (to me at least, this just suggests that for LJ, these technical skills are something he's seen b4, and isn't causing him to gawk at Em; he factors other things into ranking MCs). If u disagree with LJ's ranking, that's fine (I disagree with Lord Jamar's ranking myself), but that isn't an occasion to call him a hater. The overwhelming majority of the reason why Lord Jamar still talks about Em (or had talked about him so much previously) is due to defending his position. Lord Jamar's not "obsessed" with Eminem; STANS are obsessed with Lord Jamar's take on Eminem. U can't keep pressing sum1 about a topic, forcing them to continually talk about that topic, and then turn around & say that he's the one who is "obsessed" with that topic.

[@rayhan3654]

@@ImpossibleIsNothin Points taken; I am not trying to convince LJ otherwise ... And I certainly did not call him a hater as you indicated in your comment. The purpose of my initial comment is to outline LJ's glaring inconsistencies and contradictions ... Now, of course this all started with Vlad, but surely there is a point where one decides that "damn, it's literally been a dozen times now that I've been asked questions relating to race, HipHop and Eminem..." You can easily just say: refer to my previous comments, I have no further things to say. Instead, LJ realised how lucrative and how popular his videos were becoming as a result of discussing Eminem ... So much so, that he even start mentioning him on his own Podcast and in videos with Rah Digga. Again, my point stands: rapping requires skill, as does Kung Fu and golf. Surely you won't suggest that Tiger Woods cannot be considered a GOAT because he's playing a sport that is predominantly white? It's just absurd to think in such racialised ways. Lastly, the entire viewpoint of paying respect to the culture was blown out of proportion; Em has literally always shouted out the legends and has never disrespected them in his raps. His diss towards LJ was justifiable considering that he has played a major role in breaking down racial barriers in hip-hop and introduced it commercially to a new market. Do you really think rappers would have become megastars purely from black support? It is predominantly non-blacks that are buying the merchandise, tickets, albums and streaming. Blacks in America constitute only 13% of the population; statistically, the consumer base is overwhelmingly non-black for *any* enterprise. Ps. I 100% agree that stans are perhaps the worst fan base in music history. They behave in a dogmatically cultist way. But that doesn't detract away from the fact that LJ has been contradictory, inconsistent and at times racist from the start.

[@RampageYI]

You gotta love the entertainment value of the beginning.

[@AAWAism]

Lol, Jamar says that mainstream don’t like lyricists, while saying in Vlad interview that Eminem is a lyrical beast and can flip words and spit better than him haha

[@godson6282]

Everyone with an opinion about Em can’t out rap Em. Next subject

[@FightingSportsMedia]

This mans on some racist shit. Imagine a white man saying white people invented golf so Tiger isn't the best cause he's black.

[@dustinstich1157]

That is called an opinion.

[@JusGoonl]

@@dustinstich1157all objective shit aside an u talking straight bars who’s out rapping em im just curious

[@dustinstich1157]

@@JusGoonl hello just curios I'm Dustin. I don't listen to songs about killing your mother or whatever. I have not heard eminem since like 2008. everyone is better. vanilla ice is better

[@JusGoonl]

@@dustinstich1157 I had a stroke reading this dawg don’t reply to me on some stupid shit

[@willt8848]

Here's the problem with Jamar. He's been riding Em hard since 2013 while Em never said anything. He also went on a show with Boss Raine Chick and insinuated Em gave his daughter Hailey to Dre for sexual reasons taking Forgot About Dre lyrics way outta of context.

[@nickpeacock1896]

People ask his opinion, he gives it. It's simple. Eminem can get critiqued just like everyone else

[@willt8848]

@@nickpeacock1896 And by the way he's not obligated to answer every question posed to him.

[@nickpeacock1896]

@@willt8848 Your point? Hip hop is all about competition and opinions. White people aren't "obligated" to partake if they don't like it.

[@willt8848]

@@nickpeacock1896 You were better off shutting up as suggested then responding with this drivel that's wasting my time.

[@nickpeacock1896]

@@willt8848 As I said before, white people aren't "obligated" to listen to black people's music or OUR opinions on OUR music. I'm sure the heavy metal genre will accept you.

[@christianfinkbeiner684]

"Why be a lyricist?" Not everything is about money.

[@paul8058]

When Em went at Jamar in Abu Dhabi it was game over. Jamar was geting booed in Mecca.

[@RepDaVinci]

I’m glad somebody chimed in to give props to Puerto Ricans for having a hand in Hip Hop’s genesis. You better believe we were there from the beginning.

[@zorro1158]

Dominicans to

[@SirAlmightyAllseeinjah718]

Who are the early Puerto Rican hip hop artist and their songs? (mid 70's)

[@SirAlmightyAllseeinjah718]

@@zorro1158 lol what are their names?

[@zorro1158]

@@SirAlmightyAllseeinjah718 bro new York is filled with Dominicans Puerto Ricans and blacks all in the same neighborhoods

[@liamsmith2340]

Seriously, are you forgetting the Goat of Puerto Rico here BIG PUN!!

[@UniversalCypher]

Jamar's opinion is unfortunate because anyone who listens to rap music and knows its history within Hip Hop knows that Em pays huge respect and credits his ability and stylings to his inspirations. Em frequently points to Redman as the best on the mic, but wont hesitate to name Rakim, Kane, G Rap, Cube, and others. I wouldn't call myself an avid fan of Em, but his place in rap music and Hip Hop culture is significant and definitive. Jamar has his place, but I can't place a lot of stock in his opinions versus someone like Red, Black Thought, Nas, KRS One, etc. Jamar talks a lot but he seems to come from a place of superiority and authority when a lot of other pioneers will respect how rap music evolved to include someone like Em. I don't think it takes anything away from black culture either. Hip Hop was created in the streets and was catapulted by all colors whether you were a white dude graffin', a latino dude breakin', an asian dude scratchin', or a black dude rappin' - Hip Hop can be credited historically as black culture but it is the art of the streets - all inclusive. Jamar can have his opinion, as long he can understand that's really all it is and that his opinions dont speak for every Hip Hopper.

[@anzwarthegreat9489]

You typed all that for no reason. Jamar is right.

[@UniversalCypher]

@@anzwarthegreat9489 - insightful reply. Thanks.

[@BruceKendallMartinJr]

well said... believe or not more ppl get it than don't... the misguided are always louder... the culture knows Em and he knows it

[@bringinthedope5929]

@@UniversalCypher ay I agree with you. Eminem doesn't have to be your cup of tea to acknowledge his legacy and influence. There's a compilation of legends and modern day artist showing love to Eminem. Dude is an insane technical genius with words.

[@mr.ilikespam6081]

does he forget who the Beastie Boys were

[@koguma.newyork1]

In japan they don't "know" the lyrics, but on every label they have the translations & pronunciation of every lyric of the song when you buy the CD

[@jamesblake5176]

outsiders and we sue in the courts, cuz we dope as fuck, but only get a 2 in the source

[@saeedsamandary72]

Okay now you need to get Em on here.

[@matthewsharp9795]

And I'm disappointed at Math Hoffa for not standing up for a fellow battle rapper and giving props when they're due. C'mon brother

[@Subs1338]

Ehm.. He has showed a ton of respect to Em. It wouldnt be right to do it in front of Jamar, would be disrespectful tbh

[@ProdiGE1337]

@@Subs1338 no its disrespectful the other way around. AMERICA is fixated at „save your own face and make it shine instead of staying for the right thing“ THATS how it is! Celebrities or Public Figures in America would do anything to save their Faces!

[@timy9197]

He’s an interviewer and he’s just trying to maintain the conversation. I think he’s not going to press the issue too much. Especially since some people aren’t worth arguing with when they talk over anyone who disagrees.

[@Kapittals]

When was the last time em battled someone?

[@matthewsharp9795]

@@Kapittals I'm sure there has been battles that the public doesn't get to see or even hear especially when your in a studio plus I'm sure if the money was right it would get him to battle again

[@adamsingh7262]

I never looked at eminem as the goat because his sells, i always looked at him as the goat because how good he is at purely, and souly just rapping, like his cadences, schemes, bars, wordplay, multiple entundres, multi syllable ryhmes, fast rapping, just everything. Hes not flawless, be he literally has mastered everything that defines rap. Straight up. Im not a stan but im just giving credit due where its due.

[@kevinzhang6623]

All of what you said just goes over his head for some reason. Then I found out he believes all white people are devils, makes sense.

[@CJMobile-re1sq]

Facts❤

[@TimothyODellJr]

He isn’t stating facts!! He stating opinions THERES A HUGE DIFFERENCE that he needs to realize.

[@Jadaki]

So he is saying Tiger Woods can't be the best golfer of all time, or that Jordan isn't the best basketball player ever?

[@derkaturka]

Or Lewis Hamilton is the best Race car driver.

[@BruceKendallMartinJr]

or Muhammad ali the best boxer like they did in the 60s

[@jeffrhodes8103]

Let’s go Hoffa! Line up the battle and let’s settle this debate

[@NuisancePanda]

I was watching this clip expecting to get upset LOL.. I was not disappointed bruh..

[@AyyOlly-ry2cr]

This podcast is always lit. Hoffa is so good 👍

[@anansitv1985]

I’ve been waiting on this Math keeping the masses alive after battle rap is a great look despite his past

[@kingnano1172]

J Cole, Kdot, Em, Jay Z, all moving units STILL while rapping at the highest of levels. Why do ppl believe this narrative that the best rappers don’t sell as much?

[@zod4365]

100%

[@esotericguru7111]

Streaming is different bro lol.

[@esotericguru7111]

Jay Z bought 444 sales lol. Stop this although I do believe it's misconstrued.

[@kevinmiller2210]

The people you just named are 4 rappers at the top of their game and got a machine behind them but there are hundreds or other mcs that dont sell like them meanwhile the newest mumble rapper or someone with a catchy song will do major number. Example: Lil Nas X Old town road sold because it was catchy.

[@georgejohnson179]

eminem is mcdonalds rap. successful, sells a lot but there are so many better restaurants that most haven't even heard of

[@evtimstefanov5441]

:D the argument "we created it - we decide who's considered good or not" is such a low IQ statement I can't stress it enough

[@randyoteng9313]

Dude sitting next to Jamar’s body language tells that Jamar is talking straight bs 😂😂😂

[@darrickbrown88]

"But if the only reason I blowed is 'cause I'm white though Why don't every other white rapper sell what I sold?"

[@dominiquesellers6895]

Marketing and money

[@darrickbrown88]

@@dominiquesellers6895 so not race

[@Dretube523]

@@dominiquesellers6895 that's y anybody sells. Thanks for proving EMs point

[@dominiquesellers6895]

@Carter Drake you see how you named a whole bunch of shit idc about. Em been mid for a min and if you know the music business everybody don't get the same push he has the blank check treatment at his label just like drake. Thats the difference. Yall be talking from a fanboy perspective wild emotions no logic. He only had beef with pop women nick cannon and MGK and he def lost to MGK.

[@dominiquesellers6895]

@@Dretube523 wrong everybody don't get the same treatment at the label

[@Quay8Official]

Lord Jamar killing me rn. Eminem ain’t my GOAT but he gets all my respect for what he did in that cypher. Iykyk💯

[@bringinthedope5929]

Nuance is everything and underrated.

[@sajmon8857]

ok so what about Basketball ??? this sport was create by a white man soooo black poeple playing in basketball must be hate by white people becouse it was create/started by a white man ?? also cars like BWM,MERCEDES,FERRARI was made in white European countries soooo when black people drive in this car must be hate by white people becouse it was create by them ??? this is just stuuuuuupid !

[@CrismariuMihnea]

@@sajmon8857 golf, athletism...

[@nycblixky8530]

@@sajmon8857 we’re a guest in all that stuff

[@nomecognome8737]

@@nycblixky8530 nah ain't no way somebody like MJ could be a guest in basketball, he and other black legends own the b-ball lol

[@Bonescratcher]

I always knew Brand Nubian as: 1- Grand Puba 2- Sadat X 3- the 3rd dude in the background …lord who????

[@johndoe-tn4pr]

Glad he made sure to tack on "and puertoricans" to the "made by black people" comment. Niggas know PR been in this shit

[@johndoe-tn4pr]

@April_Spring2015 if you're going to make me open this app for anything other than to watch a video at least make sense..do your due diligence then come back here and we can have a conversation

[@DaveMater]

Even with his point "We decide who our goats are"... Many of the greatest rappers of all time acknowledge Em as a GOAT. Ice Cube, Rakim, Jay-Z, Crooked I, Kendrick, J Cole.. Legendary lyricists of all era's in Hip Hop think Em is one of the best lyricists. So how do you reply to that?

[@donkeykong2563]

"Thats an awfully hot coffee pot"

[@DaveMater]

@@donkeykong2563 😂😂👊

[@wood4life]

Em is a lyrical miracle.

[@christopher399]

It also comes down to personal opinion. Eminem is definitely Talented, but he's not going to be everyone's number one. That's a personal taste..no one gets to decide who is the best. Just a personal preference.

[@DaveMater]

@@christopher399 That's very true

[@arafelify]

Lord Jamar be like 'WE decide who the goats are!' but really means '*I* decide'. Like, it's not hard to find black people who would put Eminem in their top 5.

[@bringinthedope5929]

Agreed. We're not a monolithic people. Are taste are diverse, any barbershop will demonstrate that.

[@timy9197]

He likes to act like he’s the leading authority because he’s an OJ when most of rappers that came out before him disagree with him lol

[@clovisthebloody9820]

Jamar is insignificant or I should say his music is although brand Nubians was hot

[@luketama1]

If Lord Jamar hates Em, he’s going to REALLY hate John Mayer 😂😂😂

[@shadowghost815]

He said, "Only blacks....and Puerto Ricans 🇵🇷 "🤣😂🤣

[@oscart4986]

In my opinion I would say lyricism decides who's the best.

[@he-mememan359]

Jamar's logic on this is flawed. Basketball, football, tennis, soccer, 200 meter-dash, these weren't invented by his people. Would he exclude Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Tiger Woods, Serena Williams, Usain Bolt, etc., in those GOAT conversations?

[@Geromi87]

Nah, you can't say that, cause when white people say that, they're racist... But Lord Jamar can say whatever he wants.. LMAO! I love that he speaks for ALL black people, like he took a head count.. That's always some BS responses.. Also, when he says "We don't F with Em". Who is 'we'? Bitter, old, jealous and racist old men? I've heard so many rappers put Em on their Top 5, even top DOA..

[@Tetrahedragon2]

Marvelous example. Well said.

[@yannickyannick3317]

@@Geromi87 he has acknowledged in the past that basketball and all other white creations were the house of white folks so you're point is invalid

[@yannickyannick3317]

he has acknowledged in the past that basketball and all other white creations were the house of white folks so you're point is invalid

[@Fearseblack]

it's not sports it's hip hop. See where he coming from, he's talking from a cultural perspective . Em can rhyme but doesn't say shit like a lot of artist

[@mattm2837]

Lord Jamar is a nobody and is nowhere in the realm of eminem when it comes to rap game. Em is up there with the greatest of all time. Lord Jamar is just a racist, and he's mad because eminem is white. It's just that simple. To me that makes him a hater, and a loser. Plus there has been a mad number of people(rap legends) who have come out and said Em is the best, and not for his record sales, but for his lyrical skill.

[@axwellfifty179]

Tell me you´re racist without saying you´re racist. Jamar - Yes.

[@thisisanewusername4662]

wack

[@redwavewave3308]

The reason why lyrics don’t matter now because people don’t listen to music no more what I mean is that as long you have a hot beat and a catchy hook the rest is history you can talk dump throw out the whole song and it would be a HIT!!

[@XD-cw6xp]

How do you what people are hearing in their own time?

[@BrokenEquipment.]

Just because you listen to that doesn’t mean lyrics don’t matter anymore

[@andyhutchins3854]

I love Lord Jamar ...but emenem's skills speak for itself. .white has been their from the start of hip hop anyway..facts

[@zod4365]

1:12 "facts" = his narrative. Especially when Big Daddy Kane, Rakim, the list goes on...state repeatedly that they listen to Em AND give him props. SOoo...who are these "we decision makers?" I think he thinks WAY too highly on his position in the foundational pantheon. When greats are brought up, HE isn't mentioned...EVER.

[@calebdarling9118]

Hes not considered a great really. By anyone's standards

[@johntucker4056]

Let that man have his opinion just how you have yours. Lord jamar is old skool so understand Eminem is not from his generation of what he thinks a great mc is.

[@esotericguru7111]

It's more about the politics of it. Whites buy music now in this era and even back then. To sell worldwide you have to appeal to Whites, if they said Eminem was trash they'd be boycotted by outraged Whites. Eminem is cool, but we have Black Eminem's in AZ, Hopsin, and Canibus.

[@zod4365]

@@johntucker4056 .....he stated what he felt a great emcee was, at the end, and...it's exactly what Em does. Bruh, he's a hater and would rather believe a false narrative HE created. Listen to his last sentence and everyone knows that's what Em does and yet...

[@UTKARSHARJUN]

@@esotericguru7111 please , I can understand AZ but hoosin and cannibis are not even close to Eminem.

[@whitegoldakarawstahh]

ok. that summed it up... thx fam.

[@sinobomnjengabantu9604]

im not from America and ican tell you that alot of people where im from who listen to hip hop listen to mostly old school hip hop from the early 90s and what lord jamar said about people from overseas dont like the so called real rap is not true check the stats alot of older school mcs music sells alot abroad or overseas

[@scorpionchi]

exactly he talks as if he knows but he speaks from ignorance

[@Carlito1980]

What country?

[@malusintsele8031]

@@Carlito1980 Just by checking his name. He is South African. I know that hip hop in south africa my generation rappers which is the 90s were popular. These Lil such and such in America are not as popular as rappers were once were like Snoop, Tupac, Nas, Redman, Wu, Bone thugs, Jay Z etc. even with new generation. Maybe Cole or Drake, Kendrick and that's it.

[@williemazehaze8673]

That’s not what he said

[@Carlito1980]

@@malusintsele8031 Are you speaking about africans from the 90s or even todays younger generation still into the 90s rappers?

[@louiethekid8604]

Lord Jamar says it’s not about sales than proceeds to put Eminem with vanilla ice and mc hammer. The only thing in common with these guys is the sales. If he’s truly talking about lyricism he knows not to put Eminem with those guys. “The track is on some battling raps who want some static, cause I don’t really think that the fact that I’m slim matters, a plaque and platinum status is wack if I’m not the baddest” - Eminem (Till I Collapse) May 26, 2002 Eminem never cared about how much he sold. Of course it was a blessing to sell so much, and yes a lot of it had to do with his skin, even he’s said that much on his music way before it became a topic today, but he’s always stayed passion about his lyricism. “Let’s do the math; if I was black I would’ve sold half, I ain’t have to graduate from Lincoln High School to know that” - Eminem (White America) May 26, 2002 Idk who Lord Jamar has been debating with but it’s the wrong people. I’ve never heard anyone say Eminem is a goat because he sold a lot. Everyone says he’s a goat when acknowledging his raps. Old and current. Hell even a washed up Eminem is levels ahead of an artist in their prime. Old and currently. I personally believe he makes up those debates with imaginary people who bring up sales so that he can make his point and put Eminem in the same category with vanilla ice. That’s his way of manipulating the listener. I get when he says hip hop was started by black people and it is owned by black people and should be judged by black people. I get that. I respect that. I’m Mexican so maybe my opinion doesn’t matter. Regardless I’m gonna give it. Do we really want hip hop to be this way? I mean we know it was started by black people and we know it’s something black people can forever be proud of, but do we really want gate keepers at the top who can only pick and choose who the greats are? I believe that privilege should be for the people no matter what color you are. The way lord Jamar makes the game is basically saying it doesn’t matter how talented you are you will be judged differently if you are not black. That isn’t fair. And for someone who isn’t black it can discourage and take that passion away if you know it doesn’t matter how much you put into your music you will never be appreciated. My analogy to that.. we seen the world be upset at what these Olympic judges do to Simone Biles. We’ve seen the black community be upset about. We’ve seen the olympic community be upset about it. We’ve seen all people be upset about it. It’s not fair to judge her differently because she’s so talented that she does moves that nobody else can do. They found a way to change the game up so that they can discredit her. Make her feel like it’s pointless to be one of a kind if it don’t matter. Still she continues to do her thing and show the world she’s the goat because she is and the real will know. - I feel like lord Jamar is taking this route with Eminem. Eminem is crazy talented. He’s said things lyrically that only a few can do. Lyrically it’s no doubt he’s top 10 top 5 all time. Then here comes lord Jamar like the judges who judge Simone biles and discredits Eminem by saying it’s doesn’t matter if you’re lyrically one of a kind you’re white so you can never be great. That’s kinda fucked up. But lord Jamar is one man and one mans opinion doesn’t matter. He is not the official judge of hip hop. At the end of the day the people will still recognize Eminem as a great. Lord Jamar said only black people can judge and I’ve seen plenty of black artist, old and current, recognize Eminem as a goat. And of course you will have those who disagree. That’s ok. You can’t win them all. That’s part of the battle. Knowing there’s doubt and hate but continuing to strive through it. I think Eminem has shown heart when it comes to doing that as well. With that being said online you’ll come across so many different types of peoples. People who want equality and people who want supremacy. Wether it’s white supremacy or black supremacy. I’ve personally came across both online. Especially white supremacist when debating and arguing with them online about Trump, BLM, and all other injustices in America. There’s so many different peoples out there but the few that I’ve seen that are black supremacist or at least have some black supremacist views all agree with excluding Eminem from hip hop. I’m not sure why other than the fact that he’s white. Is it reverse psychology? Is it to turn the tables and piss off white people like “ha ha, look at you in the back of the bus, how does it feel to know you’ll never drive because you’re white”. Like is it just to prove a point. Idk what the intention is I just know it’s not healthy. Last thing we should all want is Hip Hop becoming a racist genre. Hip hop has done so much good for all peoples lives. It personally helped me through my trials and tribulations. Without a therapist I made it through because hip hop. It did that for me and I’m not black. Hip Hop should be for all people no matter who or what you are. Sorry for long ass comment. I just wanted to share my thoughts. Feel free to share yours in a reply. I would love to hear your thought on this. Maybe I can learn something from you if I have my views wrong.

[@ayo50]

@Louie The Kid I felt that. Agreed with everything you wrote because even as black man I feel the same as you. Enjoyed the read my guy👏🏾👏🏾👊🏾

[@sheelahussain4577]

Im 49 and imma huge Eminem fan from a very tiny island nation called Maldives and us Maldivians dont listen to Em because of his record sales but only cuz of his pure genius talent. Em is the G.O.AT the realest ever hands down! Peace out.

[@A6ixboiiA]

Em done said 500 times he knows issa black art form lmfao he knows allat shii

[@DisneylandZombies]

Lord Jamar realized hating Em would bring clout. We forgot about brand nubian for a sec.

[@sirkl4272]

Does that mean Tiger Woods isn't the golf Goat?

[@mlking213]

He isn’t the golf goat and that’s his lord jamar point. You can’t crown tiger the greatest just cause he’s amazing and the only black guy. Same way you can’t say Eminem is goat just because he’s amazing and white. Race helps the perception of Eminem like it does tiger…go check the stats tiger isn’t the goat. He’s Top 3 definitely he had a chance to be goat but life hit him

[@jeffrhodes8103]

What about Jordan?

[@tryingtochangemyways5074]

Everybody should know the goat of golf..But if you don't know it's Jack Nicklaus

[@Davey1522]

@@tryingtochangemyways5074 and Michael Jordan? I guess we’ll give it to Jerry West 😂

[@tryingtochangemyways5074]

@@Davey1522 Lol if not MJ I would go Kareem..

[@YouDontWantItWithMe]

This man really just sat there and said people claim Eminem is the best cuz of record sales. 🤦🏾‍♂️ Come on bruh

[@emealmyles7181]

Unfortunately, that IS the barometer for some people.

[@reelneel5517]

Great questions Hoffa #MajorSalute

[@makingchangeslifechanges4950]

is there an episode that introduces all the people that usually sit with Math and what they did and there background

[@icebergthegamer]

Em doesn’t have to be everyone GOAT. People have diff taste. His content might not be for everyone. To deny his skill is insane though. Em is, to me, the best lyricist of all time. He’s not my fave rapper though. Also, the race thing is boring already. Em being white doesn’t matter. He’s come into the game and rapped better than anyone. Bball was made by a white man. All cultures have access and can thrive in it. Who cares? MJ the goat. Let’s start thinking better and move forward. Thoughts like Lord Jamars are what stops people from progressing as a whole.

[@heru6060]

Chill white man didn't create basket ball go do your research fam. The Aztec is where the got the idea from

[@icebergthegamer]

@@heru6060 let’s say this is the case, can only aztecs play ball? They certainly don’t dominate the sport.

[@elahosun2101]

@@icebergthegamer ain't to many aztecs left if any if there were probably be a different conversation

[@slickfirmament5934]

He’s come into the game and rapper better than anyone? Skipped 4th and 5th grade? This dude can barely speak and we want him to interpret lyricism?

[@Joe-ny8xq]

It just comes down to the fact that people can’t stand that a white boy is doing it better then almost everyone else in the game. Pure in simple. People want to disregard everything em has accomplished and the fact that he is literally one of the best to ever do it just because he is white. Shit is getting old

[@maravilloso002]

He sees Em as a thief of hood culture, when in reality Em just going off what he knows best. I don't support his bigotry towards a white rapper. He basically think EM is a affirmative action status guy versus somebody who earned his way onto the mantle.

[@bendiggin6040]

he’s confused he fears successful rapper to a played out 3rd wheel member of a group of yesteryear.he a clout chaser

[@rudyzavala6063]

@Gem Rose facts! 💯💯 & top of all that Eminem never forgot to be a present father & a great one at that despite everything Kim put him through

[@originalJoeKing]

👏👏👍👍💪💪

[@haraldpotterer162]

It was Hip Hop (especially Chuck D) that helped me , born as a white german privileged boy into a society full of prejuduce and racism , to think about the world i‘m living in. Reflecting myself in a different way. In my opinion it‘s a very good thing that Em helped to put Hip Hop on another level. If ten percent from his fans get in Contact with artists like PE , Brand Nubian and do what i did in the late 80‘s . Reflecting , changing …The world would be a better place. And when i think about the thesis that white guys ( what about Run the Jewels or others) are guest in the house of hip hop. The i think they are very good guests.

[@KingKoopa1]

Problem is, most Eminem fans don't listen to hip hop.

[@BobBobOnYouTube]

1:01 It was never about hating Eminem. It was just about being blatantly racist.

[@mohammedd348]

No one listen to Eminem, but everybody wants to collaborate with him. Even your favorite rapper. He doesn't belong in here, but they still inviting him in your so called "house of hip hop" @ L.Jamar. 🤔

[@mohammedd348]

Yea u right. Jack Harlow and cordae they both 40+. Even your fav rapper Snitch9 tried to spit some freestyle on lose yourself back then. Sorry even that shit was written and he fucked up 😂

[@mohammedd348]

Talking to you is pointless like your name. Nice try "cannon" with that race card.

[@lawrencee99]

Because globally white people buy everything Eminem drops. It's always wise to use a platform (Eminem in this case) that would guarantee sales

[@timy9197]

@@latinouncle8752 Lol way to be so out of touch

[@timy9197]

@@lawrencee99 they just want to work with him because they respect him. This was the case even when he was new and broke.

[@Dezzyyx]

Haters gonna twist their arguments any possible way to discredit Eminem. Fortunately the majority are not deluded, and the haters are just a drop in the bucket. Eminem still winning.

[@chadbutler8634]

So lord is hating on the white boy

[@anzwarthegreat9489]

Nobody is hating on that boi. It’s a FACT: He can’t be the greatest. PERIOD bro. Fk them record sales. Fk them lyrics. Take all that democratic, kum-bye-yah BS y’all on and stop the madness.

[@BruceKendallMartinJr]

@@anzwarthegreat9489 yeah u dont speak for the culture... take that soft shit thataway

[@bringinthedope5929]

@@BruceKendallMartinJr 😂

[@LifeofMJGS]

@@anzwarthegreat9489 Loooool I just know you trolling

[@jacktomala4561]

Most Rappers like Nas, Lil Wayne, Jay all agree Em has skills.

[@josephoutlaw2861]

I caught that Hoffa…get ICE T up here ASAP💪🏾

[@tonythesicilianguy7031]

Rakim said EM was a goat but go on

[@onyxonyx4744]

Rakim has said many rappers could be considered the 'G.O.A.T. Stop it.. It's just a sign of respect. I would put MONEY on Rakim never actually listening to Eminem's music lol

[@Presice]

@@onyxonyx4744 they was on aftermath the same time for yrs it would be impossible not too

[@alkebulanshujaaogun5152]

@@onyxonyx4744 so true lol

[@iaintmadatcha]

@@onyxonyx4744 lol facts upon factories in faculties 💯

[@taffygore6285]

@@Presice and never made one song together ! We love rakim but signing to Dre was great mistake . Killed his career . He had suck up to Eminem and say shit like that

[@seanjefe6254]

Math Hoffa has the best podcast out right now.

[@Lamar0305]

Facts he really does

[@UniversalCypher]

No question.

[@phillyphreak4770]

It's like a car accident! WTF is you talking about!!!

[@treasurechest5793]

Yessss this and 85th south show is all I watch

[@breeshkimbe93]

On me

[@MrRknight2012]

All Eminem has done is show he’s a student of hip hop. Lord Jamar keeps saying its black music as if Eminem would disagree with him smh

[@dantemccain]

lots of Eminem's early music just don't stand the test of time, lots that shit is just CARTOONISH

[@kingpinstatus916]

The Eminem conversation is very simple. He sold more records because he's white & his "pop" fan's love his craziness however the reality is he's a pure MC that's all about lyricism, metaphors & creativity. He's ALWAYS given props to the LEGENDARY MC's because that's what he aspired to be. They know it & don't have a problem calling him one of the GOAT's & it has nothing to do with record sales. He himself has lyric's addressing him being like a new age Elvis. He can't control what skin color he is & anybody who says he's not speaking from their same prospective is wrong because he grew up in a trailer park which is the same as the ghetto. Poor people trying to survive on a day to day basis. the truth is if you love hip hop but hate Eminem then your just hating on or jealous of his talent as a white man!!!

[@triplebeans4159]

Nah we just think he's overrated and don't fuck with his raps.Stans need to accept that not everyone respects Eminem as a rapper and worships him like they do

[@mxtpmrcs2509]

Should have asked him a trick question, like “ Lord Jamar, what do you think of SHADE 45”

[@zod4365]

Lol, he would still hate it

[@johnreynolds8095]

Call a spade a spade. Racist remarks are racist remarks regardless of who says it.

[@livelifels2726]

He couldn’t even start his response with a straight face

[@drphot6050]

Everyone has their lane and reasons for doing it we are long past for lyrical raps with a message by the masses now it's hit or miss. I respect Lord Jamar and what he's done and doing and Em is dope for his lane and has put more Black ppl on than some Black ppl. So we can debate forever who is the greatest or of them but at the end of the day if we're not helping to build and rebuild for one another and have fun doing it. Then it won't add up to anything fruitful.

[@123456CBOY]

True own lane

[@charlene3827]

He'll never own up to it, but the best thing Lord Jamar ever did for his waning career was to start talking negatively about Eminem

[@DiegoJKelch]

*release of the death of slim shady *lord jamar somewhere punching air

[@DAILYBANTERR]

Couse he’s biased against the color white ???

[@karthikms]

The only truth

[@malusintsele8031]

U pretend like u didn't listen.

[@Trwillis9]

True fans who are educated in the art form can judge who the best rappers are no matter what skin color

[@jordanlaurenzo2063]

yea kinda was tight until he said ricans because all colors helped nurse hip hop into the golden era! All the graffiti artists and BBoys were hispanic ! Like i don’t like Em like that , i’ll mess some of his ish but I kno i’m biased but Pun number to me period! Not because he rican , but his vernacular and swag was epitome of spitten bars! Em spits shit i just don’t fk wit em like that cause it’s not my cup of tea, i honestly like more brand nubian joints to em but let’s not get it twisted that em isn’t nice like tha man is good. Is he my top 5?! nah but he’s someone else’s ! Jay says it, Fif says it, Jada throws em in and out so it’s like it’s all comes down to ur opinion. But em def no vanilla ice or mc hammer 🤣🤣🤣 That’s just dragging tha brotha through tha mud

[@StromLxrd6]

@@jordanlaurenzo2063 Pun definitely in the Goat talk as MC period💯

[@Subs1338]

No one is trying to tell Lord Jamar or black people for that matter who the GOAT is, and no one is really talking about sales. Every single person decides for themselves who the GOAT is. So he is completely off base with that one. But also, the more rap you listen to the more your opinion is worth.

[@Trwillis9]

@@Subs1338 yea I can dig this.. Some people opinions are trash while others are gold.. I like to break down categories of rap like Madden… Storytelling, Delivery, Vocabulary, Flows, Metaphors, Shock Value… etc and base my opinions on how ill someone is with those metrics

[@BruceKendallMartinJr]

@@Trwillis9 jamar opinion is trash and he proly listens to plenty rap... buddy is just an old grumpy racist... no way around it