The complete elliptic integral of the first kind

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Maths 505

Maths 505

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@rudransh118
@rudransh118 8 ай бұрын
U dedicated yourself just so we could understand integral calculus RESPECT
@rudransh118
@rudransh118 8 ай бұрын
Love from India🇮🇳
@maths_505
@maths_505 8 ай бұрын
@@rudransh118 thanks bro
@Tosi31415
@Tosi31415 8 ай бұрын
been following for months and now I'm starting to see myself knowing the next step ahead!! it's so cool
@MrFtriana
@MrFtriana 8 ай бұрын
Elliptical functions appears also in electrostatics and magnetostatics. Check in Jackson's classical electrodynamics, chapters 3 and 5. (Note: Green functions are involved, also Bessel functions in cylindrical coordinates and expansions in terms of Legendre polynomials in spherical coordinates.)
@jonasdaverio9369
@jonasdaverio9369 8 ай бұрын
Always ugly af but I guessed it's just not my thing
@ayush10tharollno16
@ayush10tharollno16 8 ай бұрын
Its a kamaal approach
@asserhaitham8067
@asserhaitham8067 8 ай бұрын
Is he a Muslim? Because Kamal is an Arabian name
@strikerstone
@strikerstone 8 ай бұрын
Chamar approach when
@maths_505
@maths_505 8 ай бұрын
@@asserhaitham8067 yeah bro I'm Muslim alhamdullilah
@chaitanyasinghal1098
@chaitanyasinghal1098 8 ай бұрын
@@strikerstone Have some respect man
@strikerstone
@strikerstone 8 ай бұрын
@@chaitanyasinghal1098 for whom?
@holyshit922
@holyshit922 8 ай бұрын
We can expand it via binomial expansion and then use reduction formula derived by parts and we avoid Beta function and stuff like that
@holyshit922
@holyshit922 8 ай бұрын
My solution expressed as series in latex \frac{\pi}{2}\cdot\sum\limits_{n=0}^{\infty}{2n \choose n}^2\cdot\left(\frac{k}{4} ight)^{2n}
@holyshit922
@holyshit922 8 ай бұрын
But if we want to measure orbits and circumference of Earth we probably need this \frac{\pi}{2}\cdot\sum\limits_{n=0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{1-2n}\cdot {2n \choose n}^2\cdot\left(\frac{k}{4} ight)^{2n}
@fartoxedm5638
@fartoxedm5638 8 ай бұрын
Love that boi cause it's closely related to elliptic curves
@pandavroomvroom
@pandavroomvroom 8 ай бұрын
Lets fking goooooooooooooooo I NEEDED THIS ONE
@CM63_France
@CM63_France 8 ай бұрын
Hi, Interesting approach to calculate the period of the pendulum starting from a certain angle and assuming zero friction, but without the assumption of the small angle. "ok, cool" : 0:30 , 1:24 , 3:09 , 8:57 , 9:57 , 12:24 , 19:04 , "terribly sorry about that" : 5:09 , 13:19 .
@maths_505
@maths_505 8 ай бұрын
Terribly sorry about only giving 2 instances of me saying terribly sorry about that 😂
@CM63_France
@CM63_France 8 ай бұрын
@@maths_505 To be honest, you said once "ok" (without "cool") 🙂 . I also counted Michael Penn's usual formulas, but he doesn't typically have as many formulas as you, except of course his famous "and that's a good place to stop" at the end.
@si48690
@si48690 8 ай бұрын
In 8:32, shouldn't the order of limits for phi be the other way around?
@edmundwoolliams1240
@edmundwoolliams1240 8 ай бұрын
Yess!! The top integral G is back!
@maths_505
@maths_505 8 ай бұрын
Hello my friend. Yeah I've been pretty occupied this past week which is why I haven't been able to make videos. More uploads to follow Insha'Allah.
@edmundwoolliams1240
@edmundwoolliams1240 8 ай бұрын
​​@@maths_505 It was well worth the wait my friend! I'm glad that you took your time to make something great 👍🏻 Looking forward to the next one
@bandishrupnath3721
@bandishrupnath3721 8 ай бұрын
Sir , is it even possible to solve an integral from minus 1 to 1 of (sin x /arcsin X)
@maths_505
@maths_505 8 ай бұрын
It'll definitely converge but I'm not sure it'll have a nice closed form or not
@bandishrupnath3721
@bandishrupnath3721 8 ай бұрын
@maths_505 hope u give it a try I'm interested in that integral🥺
@edmundwoolliams1240
@edmundwoolliams1240 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely fantastic video, you explained the elliptic integral in such a simple way, and explained the step of normalisation of the T/period integral well - I previously never really understood the motivation of that last substitution. Great H/W exercise too, I got (omega-bar)/sqrt(2) ! I feel that the identity that came before it with the gamma functions looked cooler though - it was like the Euler identity for special functions 😍 My only other comment is that at 1:15 you state that the pendulum executes SHM, but the whole point of using elliptic integrals is that it isn't SHM. Or was that a meta-joke referring to how physicists just model everything as SHM whether it's SHM or not? 😂 I feel like this level of explanation would really suit an advanced high-school student, I really hope for more content like this on elliptic functions 😊
@maths_505
@maths_505 8 ай бұрын
Thanks bro. Yeah it is SHM because acceleration is still proportional to displacement. Modelling this system in the form of a second offer differential equation (using an FBD on the mass m) will show that explicitly.
@edmundwoolliams1240
@edmundwoolliams1240 8 ай бұрын
​@@maths_505 😮 I immediately got my pen and paper and frantically tried deriving the equation. But for the x-displacement I got: x'' = -(gx/l^2)*(l^2-x^2) For s (arc length), I got: s'' = -g*sin(s/l) For y I got something even more horrible! Which direction/displacement does it execute SHM in? I'm really curious
@maths_505
@maths_505 8 ай бұрын
@@edmundwoolliams1240 try the polar coordinates. Rather, now that I think of it, for the polar angle φ I think you'll get an equation showing it proportional to sin(φ) and not exactly φ. So strictly speaking, I should not have said SHM but simply oscillatory motion. Thanks for sparking the discussion mate. Although everything is pretty much a harmonic oscillator, one should be more rigorous when teaching so I'll be sure to avoid it next time 😂
@edmundwoolliams1240
@edmundwoolliams1240 8 ай бұрын
​@@maths_505 It was something extremely minor, I was just being a stickler 😂 It basically is SHM, I only wanted to point it out because if it were genuine SHM then we could just read off the period directly from the ODE and we wouldn't get to use the cool elliptic integrals (which most treatments of the simple pendulum sadly never go into detail about!) Ever since I first learned it in high school, I've always found the simple pendulum so mysterious too: it looks, feels, and moves like SHM, but it isn't, and the equation describing it is inexplicably so much harder to solve!
@AyushRajput-xw2ru
@AyushRajput-xw2ru 6 ай бұрын
Bro you just cleared my one the most pondering doubt. One day i was just solving the motion of pendulum ; i was thinking to do it just from kinematics algebra and encountered this integral which i wasn't able to do. Searched on yt i ffound that this integral is unsolvable then i questionined on the existence of motion of pendulum . From thn onwards i was searching for it.
@jorgelovaco7527
@jorgelovaco7527 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant! I hve been waiting for one of this ones for a while! Great video! :)
@periyasamym8917
@periyasamym8917 3 ай бұрын
Your explanation is nice.is complete elliptic integral has logarithmic singularity at k=1?
@MrWael1970
@MrWael1970 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this featured effort.
@MathFromAlphaToOmega
@MathFromAlphaToOmega 8 ай бұрын
Whoever decided to use K, K', k, and k' all at the same time for elliptic integrals is evil. Thank you so much for not doing that.
@ganonhorf8632
@ganonhorf8632 8 ай бұрын
Cool 😃 i think this is my favorite video you’re made
@04-jayeshkumargupta8
@04-jayeshkumargupta8 8 ай бұрын
man u should make more physics related videos
@aravindakannank.s.
@aravindakannank.s. 8 ай бұрын
very cool
@hsjkdsgd
@hsjkdsgd 8 ай бұрын
Great video but do a video on integral(sqrt(1+sin^2theta)) from 0 to pi/2.
@PopPhyzzle
@PopPhyzzle 8 ай бұрын
Deeeng I did not see that Beta function coming.
@YahontAction
@YahontAction 8 ай бұрын
Более интересная и полезная задача как организовать класс для вычисления этой функции с точностью 16D b сложностью вычисления многочлена степени N. Увы единого подхода решения этой задачи нет. Вообще в математике надо совершенствовать искусство численного интегрирования с высокой точностью и низкой сложностью вычислительных ресурсов ПК!
@maths_505
@maths_505 8 ай бұрын
конечно интересный вариант
@Unidentifying
@Unidentifying 8 ай бұрын
do the double pendulum
@maths_505
@maths_505 8 ай бұрын
Okay
@Unidentifying
@Unidentifying 8 ай бұрын
@@maths_505 cool
@gesucristo0
@gesucristo0 8 ай бұрын
What’s the physical sense of evaluated at i?
@BridgeBum
@BridgeBum 8 ай бұрын
I think you have to just imagine it.
@sarahakkak408
@sarahakkak408 8 ай бұрын
Hi bro , this time can you do the integral from e to 0 for : ln(1-ln(x)) ,its ez and give two beautiful constants , just try it
@maths_505
@maths_505 8 ай бұрын
Since this is the first time one of the 3 and a half ladies who watch this channel has ever made a request I shall gladly oblige 😂 I am pretty occupied these days and have a long list of integral requests so I'll return to the list as soon as I get some time to breath (integration sounds like a viable replacement for breathing 😭😂)
@sarahakkak408
@sarahakkak408 8 ай бұрын
xD😂😂 , but I am not a lady
@hemavathirajesh8012
@hemavathirajesh8012 7 ай бұрын
Is the answer (e)*(euler mascheroni) constant ?
@pandavroomvroom
@pandavroomvroom 8 ай бұрын
w video topci
@frannywiii
@frannywiii 8 ай бұрын
K(1/√2) = √2 K(i) = (1/√2)ϖ
@tiktik9413
@tiktik9413 8 ай бұрын
ಠ⁠﹏⁠ಠ(⁠´⁠⊙⁠ω⁠⊙⁠`⁠)⁠!
@peilingLeslieLiu
@peilingLeslieLiu Ай бұрын
lemniscate constant🎉
@giuseppemalaguti435
@giuseppemalaguti435 8 ай бұрын
Non ho capito perché hai messo n=i?
@Tosi31415
@Tosi31415 8 ай бұрын
puro svago
@TheAzwxecrv
@TheAzwxecrv 8 ай бұрын
But if at the bottom velocity is zero, then it will NOT swing any further! I think, all you can say is that the addition of T + U is just some constant c, and unless provided other details, we can NOT conclude c = mgl cos phi zero. Correct?
@maths_505
@maths_505 8 ай бұрын
Wrong
@maths_505
@maths_505 8 ай бұрын
The velocity is maximum at the bottom.
@TheAzwxecrv
@TheAzwxecrv 8 ай бұрын
@maths_505 Yes, and therefore T is not zero at bottom. Hence total energy at bottom is not just - mgl cos phi zero, but T max + - mgl cos phi zero!
@PopPhyzzle
@PopPhyzzle 8 ай бұрын
yaaaaaas at laaaaast haha haha AHAHAHAHAHAH
@bnice24
@bnice24 8 ай бұрын
I wanna be the first to comment. Nice job
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