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@MichaelRothwell1
@MichaelRothwell1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video which is carefully and beautifully presented, although I don't agree with some of the things said. Whilst it is a valid move to rearrange the equation xˣ=x into the form of the more familiar equation aᵇ=1, I think that more important than knowing the solutions to this equation is knowing how those solutions are found, since the same method can be used to solve similar exponential equations. One method is to use logs, and this method can be used to solve the equation directly (without rearrangement). Here is my solution. We are to solve xˣ=x for real x (a reasonable assumption, I think). We consider 3 cases: x>0, x=0 and x0, we have xˣ>0 (as a real power of a positive number is positive), so we can take ln of each side: xˣ=x ⇔ln xˣ=ln x ⇔x ln x=ln x (we can use the rules of logs here as the base x of xˣ is positive) ⇔(x-1)ln x=0 ⇔x-1=0 or ln x=0 ⇔x=1 (in each case) For x=0, we have xˣ=0⁰=1≠x. So x=0 is not a solution. This conclusion is true even if you think that 0⁰ is undefined. For x
@MichaelRothwell1
@MichaelRothwell1 2 жыл бұрын
P.S. I mentioned above that we can apply the rules of logs to powers where the base is positive. It's worth noting that we can apply the rules of exponents where the base is positive and also where the power is an integer (this applies whenever the powers are defined, and the base can be any real or complex number or even a matrix etc).
@mathserreurs2479
@mathserreurs2479 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for subscribing to my chanel. Je viens de faire pareil. Je vois que tu parles français aussi, cela m'aidera à améliorer mon anglais. Bonne journée.
@tanmaychopra4239
@tanmaychopra4239 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, I learnt a lot!
@miegorengq
@miegorengq 2 жыл бұрын
I want to ask something, why X^x=x^1 Its same with x^x÷x=1 ? Example, 2^4=2^4, Its not same with 2^4:2=4, 2^4=16, 16÷2=8, 8 not same with 4, so why x^x=x^1 Its same with x^x÷x=1 ?, Please aswer me, Im not understand
@MichaelRothwell1
@MichaelRothwell1 2 жыл бұрын
@@miegorengq if we divide both sides of an equation by the same non-zero expression, the equation will still hold. If we divide both sides of the equation xˣ=x by x (for x≠0) we get xˣ÷x=x÷x LHS=xˣ÷x=xˣ÷x¹=xˣ⁻¹ and RHS=1 So the equation becomes xˣ⁻¹=1 Taking your example, which is to divide both sides of the equation 2⁴=16 by 2, the correct calculation is 2⁴÷2=16÷2 LHS = 2⁴÷2¹=2⁴⁻¹=2³=8=RHS Note that x^x÷x, as you wrote, means (x^x)÷x and not x^(x÷x). Similarly, 2^4÷2 means (2^4)÷2 and not 2^(4÷2).
@tildarusso
@tildarusso 2 жыл бұрын
I can work out the x=1 by taking logarithm on both sides instantly, with base of x, log_x(x**x)=x, log_x(x)=1, therefore x=1. But since base can not be negative the x=-1 is however lost.
@Mj382-d73
@Mj382-d73 2 жыл бұрын
yea but if you take this into consideration you can deduce that |x|=1, meaning you didnt loose the -1
@theexplosive583
@theexplosive583 2 жыл бұрын
isn't -1^(-1) is also positive 1? -1^(-1) = -1/(-1)^1 = -1/(-1) = 1 or I have messed up something?
@theexplosive583
@theexplosive583 2 жыл бұрын
oh sorry, I found my mistake. I calculated like a^(-n) = a/a^(n) instead of using 1/a^n
@thenoobyblock1208
@thenoobyblock1208 2 жыл бұрын
@@theexplosive583 pretty sure (-1)^(-1) is just the reciprocal of -1, which is -1
@krishnakarthik4752
@krishnakarthik4752 2 жыл бұрын
No, I think -1 is also a valid solution
@FitSS369
@FitSS369 2 жыл бұрын
bases are equal so we can equate the exponents which is x=1
@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753
@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753 2 жыл бұрын
True, but how do you obtain the second solution x=-1 then?
@sathwikmadapati618
@sathwikmadapati618 2 жыл бұрын
@@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753 x must be of form 2n. SUCH 2 SECOND questions 🙄man for JEE ADVANCED INDIAN ASPIRANTS..😂
@HaiLe-wy7dd
@HaiLe-wy7dd 2 жыл бұрын
1^2=1^4, bases are equal but exponents are not. Your reasoning is wrong.
@snipyjodgaming2206
@snipyjodgaming2206 2 жыл бұрын
@@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753 x power - 1 is also giving 1 so - 1 and 1 both are the values for X We just have to use our common sense
@maf427
@maf427 2 жыл бұрын
@@HaiLe-wy7dd Sure, but it works with unknown quantities. Let 1^x = 1. 1 can = 1^1 therefore x = 1 but it doesn't mean x = 1 is the only solution. Now 1 can also equal 1^-4 therefore x is also equal to -4. It's conclusive that x = all real numbers.
@giorgosanas1608
@giorgosanas1608 2 жыл бұрын
🪓 divided by 🪓 minus 🪓
@daniswaraputra299
@daniswaraputra299 2 жыл бұрын
The equal is unreachable
@dominickdayang1838
@dominickdayang1838 2 жыл бұрын
Nice 😅
@Samiul_007
@Samiul_007 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@abm5195
@abm5195 2 жыл бұрын
Lol😂
@disgracedmilo
@disgracedmilo 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully this is a lighthearted joke
@pranavsahnii
@pranavsahnii 2 жыл бұрын
Both +1 and -1 could be the real values of x
@ramking7869
@ramking7869 2 жыл бұрын
And 0.
@mrmsaid7617
@mrmsaid7617 2 жыл бұрын
@@ramking7869 nope
@chaoseros1714
@chaoseros1714 2 жыл бұрын
@@ramking7869 remember anything to the power of 0 equals one which means if u substitute x for 0 it’ll equal 1. I think some people think 0 to the power of 0 is 0 tho so idk if ur that person
@seroujghazarian6343
@seroujghazarian6343 2 жыл бұрын
@@chaoseros1714 nah, it's defo 1
@sandhuekam14
@sandhuekam14 2 жыл бұрын
@@seroujghazarian6343 0 to the power 0 is undefined nor 1 nor 0
@justabunga1
@justabunga1 2 жыл бұрын
Since the domain isn't mentioned here, we have to extend some possible values. This means that we have to take the absolute values on both sides of the equation (both the base and the exponent). In the next paragraph, it will explain why the line doesn't cross one of the solutions. Let's the set the equation as |x|^|x|=|x|. Take ln on both sides, which is |x|ln(|x|)=ln(|x|). Subtract ln(|x|) on both sides, which is |x|ln(|x|)-ln(|x|)=0. Factor out ln(|x)|, which means that (|x|-1)ln(|x|)=0, or x=±1. You can go ahead and check the equation to make sure that is the right solution. Originally, there's not supposed to be an absolute value there since the graph changes. The reason why x cannot be -1 is because of the domain if you graph y=x^x and y=x. The graph of y=x^x has the domain where x>0. x=-1 is out of the domain, but putting in the value for x=-1 is the right solution. Because of this and even though you could plug in negative values for x, we want the graph to be continuous. Let's say you put in x=-1/2. There it goes, the value is not real. Therefore, we cannot have negatives values for x. Otherwise, it keeps jumping the values between real and imaginary numbers. x cannot be 0 be cause 0^0 is undefined, but it does have the limit to be 1 as you approach from the right side. The answer comes from the use of l'Hopital's rule since 0^0 is an indeterminate form. An indeterminate form since there are 7 of them means that the answer cannot drawn from the conclusion meaning that you have to do show more work. To get the answer for that limit, y=x^x=e^(xln(x)). Take the limit of the exponent and then raise that by the base of e. xln(x)=ln(x)/(1/x). Take the derivative of the top and derivative of the bottom separately. Note that we are not doing the quotient rule derivative. This means that (1/x)/(-1/x^2)=-x. The limit is therefore e^0=1. The graph of y=x is easy to figure things out since you already know this from algebra. On the other hand, the graph of y=x^x will have to be done using the calculus method to show where the line increase/decreases (or max./min. pt.) using the first derivative and set that equal to 0 and concavity by setting the second derivative equal to 0. The first derivative of y=x^x is y'=x^x(1+ln(x)). Set that equal to 0 has the value of x=1/e. Now we need to see where the max./min. pt. is. Let's try something between 0 and 1/e say like x=1/e^2. We can tell that the value is negative, so the line is decreasing. Try another value that is greater than 1/e say like x=1. The value is positive, so the line is increasing. Let's find the second derivative, which is y"=x^(x-1)(1+x(ln(x))^2). If we try to set the second derivative equal to 0, you won't find any values for x. However, we have to come up with another method from the equation. From there, x is always going to be positive. This means that it's always concave up.
@samueljehanno
@samueljehanno 2 жыл бұрын
😮
@davidemmanuel9418
@davidemmanuel9418 2 жыл бұрын
I was expecting an answer at the end 🙁
@kotarotennouji5238
@kotarotennouji5238 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidemmanuel9418 he basically said x = 1 not -1 and used logarithms and derivatives to prove that statement.
@xXxkwexXx
@xXxkwexXx 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha well done bro, I stop the video when he not even started with the log in both sides 😂😂😂 newton will go crazy if he saw this 😂😂 equation is for children, give me the real world , give me the function 😂😂
@mythsealaes2206
@mythsealaes2206 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there are any complex solutions...
@epikherolol8189
@epikherolol8189 2 жыл бұрын
Not
@tengig7534
@tengig7534 2 жыл бұрын
it is possible to solve this equation according to the graph. The graph of the function X is a line passing through the coordinates (0; 0) (1; 1). Function graph х^х have coordinates (1; 1) (2; 4) (3; 9) etc. So, these graphs intersect only at one point (1; 1) therefore, this equation has one solution. Х=1
@timbomb374
@timbomb374 2 жыл бұрын
After looking at the thumbnail and pretty much intuitively figuring X=1and probably -1. I did not expect there to be so many equations to go through to prove it.
@oZqdiac
@oZqdiac 2 жыл бұрын
Yes you are right x can also be -1 Proof -1^-1 = 1/-1^1 = 1/-1 = -(1/1) = -1 -1 = -1
@snikdud
@snikdud 2 жыл бұрын
POV: you solved this immediately
@michellepopkov940
@michellepopkov940 2 жыл бұрын
By inspection x=1. Divide both sides by x. X^(x-1) = 1. So x-1 (the Exponent) should be zero. So x=1.
@mathserreurs2479
@mathserreurs2479 2 жыл бұрын
x^p=1 with p=x-1 { p=0 and x0: x=1 solution, Or x=1 and p in R, Or x=-1 and p even: p=-1-1=-2 is even so x=-1 is solution } For more examples see: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3illmyFl9afraM
@davidbrown8763
@davidbrown8763 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought.
@oZqdiac
@oZqdiac 2 жыл бұрын
x is also -1 as well
@spinothenoooob6050
@spinothenoooob6050 Жыл бұрын
it's so simple, x^x=x because the bases are equal the exponents are also equal therefore, x=1
@kobalt4083
@kobalt4083 Жыл бұрын
There is also another solution x = -1.
@math4u769
@math4u769 2 жыл бұрын
Take ln of both sides. Transpose then factor. Solve for x.
@ikirigin
@ikirigin 2 жыл бұрын
I solved this by taking the log of both sides, so [ x lnx = ln x ]. Then [ ln x (x-1) = 0 ]. Both point to 1 being a root. Where can you get -1 from this method?
@touhami3472
@touhami3472 2 жыл бұрын
See: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3illmyFl9afraM
@sathwikmadapati618
@sathwikmadapati618 2 жыл бұрын
Use |x|. Always write log|x| when using in an equation to equate it to 0....
@touhami3472
@touhami3472 2 жыл бұрын
For x^(x+2)=x^(1-x) ln leads to (2x+1)ln|x|=0 : then 1, -1 and -1/2 are solutions !!! But true solutions are: 1,0, -1/2 !!!
@SerialBull
@SerialBull 2 жыл бұрын
Divide both sides by ln x to get x = 1
@Dissandou
@Dissandou 2 жыл бұрын
You eliminate negative solutions when you do ln(x) instead of ln|x|.
@zwz.zdenek
@zwz.zdenek 2 жыл бұрын
I originally guessed that y=x would intersect x^x in two places, but I see it's tangent at 1. How would one approach a more general case, such as x^x=2x?
@xdelqyed1090
@xdelqyed1090 2 жыл бұрын
Can u not solve this with laws of index by canceling the two bottom x’s
@Johannes_Seerup
@Johannes_Seerup 2 жыл бұрын
x^x = x^1 Since the bases are the same, the exponents can be set to equal each other:) x = 1
@shirobitoo
@shirobitoo 2 жыл бұрын
I can see that it’s x = 1,-1 without even trying to solve it. Proving it though… that’s a different story. I think using log would be helpful, but at the end of the day you’ll get log base x of x = x lol
@pranavtiwari_yt
@pranavtiwari_yt 2 жыл бұрын
But base can't be negative so how solution -1 is correct?
@creaturekaspar
@creaturekaspar 2 жыл бұрын
a negative base is perfectly legal, -1^-1=-1
@pranavtiwari_yt
@pranavtiwari_yt 2 жыл бұрын
@@creaturekaspar yes numerically it is but in x^x as a function it is not
@Rkumar123-k8u
@Rkumar123-k8u 2 жыл бұрын
You can also take log both side
@Rkumar123-k8u
@Rkumar123-k8u 2 жыл бұрын
There is condition(x>0)
@Frank-kx4hc
@Frank-kx4hc 2 жыл бұрын
Why lot of comments are censured in your videos?
@IoDavide1
@IoDavide1 2 жыл бұрын
I suggest you to abandon the use of obelus, just use the slash. In a video the obelus is very easily confused with a minus sign.
@kasskmb
@kasskmb 2 жыл бұрын
x^x=x x^x=x^1, equal bases, cancel the bases and equal the exponents x=1
@prosimulate
@prosimulate 2 жыл бұрын
1. With logic.
@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753
@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753 2 жыл бұрын
True, but how do you obtain the second solution x=-1 then?
@ruchikarfacts7380
@ruchikarfacts7380 2 жыл бұрын
Olympiad questions 2^pq - 2^rs = 32; where p,q,r,s belongs to natural number then Possible values of p + q + r + s = ? Solution:- kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIO7i2Vjn8aCbtU
@Gideon_Judges6
@Gideon_Judges6 2 жыл бұрын
Can't we just take log of both sides? |x| = 1, x = {1, -1} ?
@BasitCeviriler
@BasitCeviriler 2 жыл бұрын
Yes we can, ı solved with logarithm
@OrDoL
@OrDoL 2 жыл бұрын
I believe you can't
@kekw8105
@kekw8105 2 жыл бұрын
I believe you can
@OrDoL
@OrDoL 2 жыл бұрын
@@kekw8105 how can you?
@ruchikarfacts7380
@ruchikarfacts7380 2 жыл бұрын
Olympiad questions 2^pq - 2^rs = 32; where p,q,r,s belongs to natural number then Possible values of p + q + r + s = ? Solution:- kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIO7i2Vjn8aCbtU
@juandelacruz9027
@juandelacruz9027 2 жыл бұрын
This is quite easy. Just compare the left side and the right side. The exponent on the right is obviously 1 since it's not written, so the answer is 1.
@ronchristiensantos5501
@ronchristiensantos5501 2 жыл бұрын
x^x = x, since the bases are equal, just focus on the exponents x = 1, and you're done
@chowdavid1874
@chowdavid1874 2 жыл бұрын
Take absolute value on both sides. The only possibility is that |x| = 1, and can be easily verify that x = 1 and -1 are the solutions. Simple question done in 3 seconds.
@mohandalansari534
@mohandalansari534 2 жыл бұрын
Infinity^infinity=Infinity and x=±1
@איתיסמואלוב
@איתיסמואלוב 2 жыл бұрын
And for those here who also want to solve it *correctly*- apply ln for both sides (we will check later for negative x solutions...) And you can now substract ln(x). From both sides. So ln(x)(x-1)=0 Both ln(x) and (x-1) become zero when x=1. Because ln(x) is valid only for positive values of x- we do the same with u=-x By that we will get u=1... x=-1
@mappingsworld
@mappingsworld 2 жыл бұрын
we know this is true because u can multiply 1 to the power of 1 to the power of 1 and it can keep going on infinitely, but IT WILL ALWAYS BE ONE
@N.N-p9g
@N.N-p9g 2 жыл бұрын
ln-logarithm both sides, then we see immediately in our heads(!) that the or-conjunction of ln(x)=0 and x=1 is the only solution of our equation.
@VectorJW9260
@VectorJW9260 2 жыл бұрын
x=1 is a solution! I found this out looking at the thumbnail. I know that 1 raised to any (real, at least) power is itself, and so I just plugged it in and it worked out.
@VectorJW9260
@VectorJW9260 2 жыл бұрын
(Though I did lose the x=-1 like the other people who used other methods)
@kittisakchooklin874
@kittisakchooklin874 2 жыл бұрын
That makes sense. Was checking in the rational form, and it simplified to -1
@thetntmaster3127
@thetntmaster3127 2 жыл бұрын
Log base x both sides?
@epikherolol8189
@epikherolol8189 2 жыл бұрын
But is log base x feasible?? Coz we need to find x so how can we take log base x, i mean we can take but it's not feasible. Take either natural log or log base 10 or any base other than x
@NamMathProf
@NamMathProf 2 жыл бұрын
simply apply the power rule, if the base are the same, you only equate the index
@mr.cracker9317
@mr.cracker9317 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it must be 2 line answer, 1 line question and another line x = 1, 😁😁
@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753
@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753 2 жыл бұрын
True, but how do you obtain the second solution x=-1 then?
@mr.cracker9317
@mr.cracker9317 2 жыл бұрын
@@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753 x = -1, this answer can also be matched but I didn't see any correct solution of x^x = x which gives x = -1
@GanonTEK
@GanonTEK 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.cracker9317 If you plot the two functions, the line y=x touches it twice, at 1 and -1. So it is a correct solution. Some graphical calculators struggle with x^x at x
@mistashadow
@mistashadow 2 жыл бұрын
That's because most of it isn't real numbers when x < 0 Sure, (-1)^-1 = 1/‐1 = -1 and (‐2)^-2 = 1/((-2)²) = 1/4 = 0.25 But then we get things like (-0.5)^(-0.5) = 1/(sqrt(-0.5) which is not a real number
@RhinocerosMovie9
@RhinocerosMovie9 2 жыл бұрын
Wow so Wonderful! Highly impressed with the channel. This girl is super genius. Well done. Keep it up! #SUPERMATHS
@LarryPanozzo
@LarryPanozzo 2 жыл бұрын
Smart people: • It feels like it should be 1 and maybe -1 too. • Does “guess and check.” Yep it’s -1 and 1! • Checks that 0 doesn’t work and values higher than 1 and lower than -1 diverge. Boom ‘solved it’ in 10 seconds! 😅
@sathwikmadapati618
@sathwikmadapati618 2 жыл бұрын
USE LOG AND PROPERTIES ON BOTH SIDES to get 1,-1 and consider ln|x| . THEN U WILL GET ANSWER IN 2 SECS. Such simple 2 second questions these are for JEE ADVANCED INDIAN ASPIRANTS man😂😂. IF YOU TRULY WANT TO DO TOUGH MATH SUMS THEN TRY SOLVING JEE ADVANCED 2022 MATH PAPER IN 1 HOUR.
@oZqdiac
@oZqdiac 2 жыл бұрын
@@sathwikmadapati618 dude chill this method works just fine for this question as well
@sjejnwbww
@sjejnwbww 2 жыл бұрын
-1 is no solution of this equation
@oZqdiac
@oZqdiac 2 жыл бұрын
It is Here’s proof -1^-1 can be written as 1/(-1^1) -1^1 = -1 so this is now 1/(-1) 1/-1 can be written as -(1/1) 1/1 is 1 so this is now -1 And -1 = -1 So there
@SousouCell
@SousouCell 2 жыл бұрын
X^x is only définid in ] 0 , + inf [ Therefor the solution -1 doesnt apply
@AndreITA777
@AndreITA777 2 жыл бұрын
Why dont use logaritm?
@misterlau5246
@misterlau5246 2 жыл бұрын
Apart from 1?
@epikherolol8189
@epikherolol8189 2 жыл бұрын
Take log on both sides...
@leoofficial527
@leoofficial527 2 жыл бұрын
the line y=x is tangent to x^x at 1
@TheMoogleKing93
@TheMoogleKing93 2 жыл бұрын
Dividing by X before considering if X = 0 (which isn't a valid solution) feels sloppy to me.
@Nfsbelka
@Nfsbelka 2 жыл бұрын
0^0 is undefined
@TheMoogleKing93
@TheMoogleKing93 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nfsbelka which he should have identified before dividing by x
@seroujghazarian6343
@seroujghazarian6343 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nfsbelka no.
@sohampinemath1086
@sohampinemath1086 2 жыл бұрын
Just take log base x on both sides
@hmwh4t
@hmwh4t 2 жыл бұрын
Then you cannot get the -1 solution
@sohampinemath1086
@sohampinemath1086 2 жыл бұрын
@@hmwh4t ok
@sathwikmadapati618
@sathwikmadapati618 2 жыл бұрын
USE LOG AND PROPERTIES ON BOTH SIDES to get 1,-1 and consider ln|x| . THEN U WILL GET ANSWER IN 2 SECS. Such simple 2 second questions you give for JEE ADVANCED INDIAN ASPIRANTS man😂😂. IF YOU TRULY WANT TO DO TOUGH MATH SUMS THEN TRY SOLVING JEE ADVANCED 2022 MATH PAPER IN 1 HOUR.
@rv706
@rv706 2 жыл бұрын
Easy using convexity: 0) First of all, the proper domain of x^x is x>0 (You can do the case x = negative integer separately). 1) Observe that x=1 is a solution to x^x=x. 2) x^x is (at least) twice differentiable. Compute it's first derivative and evaluate at 1: you get 1, which means that y=x is the tangent to y=x^x at (1,1). 3) Now compute the second derivative of x^x and observe it's strictly positive for all (positive) x. So the function x^x is convex. 4) Convex functions lie above their tangent lines at every point (strictly above, for x different from the abscissa of tangency). Therefore, the graph of x^x lies above it's tangent line at x=1 (which is y=x). 5) Conclusion: x=1 is the _only_ solution to x^x=x.
@Taric25
@Taric25 Жыл бұрын
Your conclusion is false. 0⁰=0, 1¹=1 and (-1)^(-1)=-1. There are clearly at least three solutions. 0⁰ is normally indeterminate, but subtracting x from both sides and factoring clearly shows x=0 is a solution in this case, since (-x+x^x)=0=(-1+x^(-1+x))(x).
@Bobby-tj1hq
@Bobby-tj1hq 2 жыл бұрын
Dude solve this is one second by using exponent rules. If base is same, you can equate exponents. Given x^x=x^1, since both sides are single exponents with base x, x=1.
@narkitikx9380
@narkitikx9380 2 жыл бұрын
u can take the ln on both sides..
@amritjanardhanan
@amritjanardhanan 2 жыл бұрын
Then you will have x*ln(x) = ln(x); subtract ln(x) from either side and factor and you will have ln(x)*(x-1) = 0, so either x-1 = 0 and x = 1, or ln(x) = 0 so x = e^0 = 1
@user-kiribati
@user-kiribati 2 жыл бұрын
Is X^x continuous function?
@user-kiribati
@user-kiribati 2 жыл бұрын
@Jory Folker then we must search solutions only for x>0.
@timbomb374
@timbomb374 2 жыл бұрын
The power has to be 1 or -1 because that's the only way you are going to have a number to the power of something also be itself. And since the power is an X that means all the Xs are either 1 or -1.
@jefftobi
@jefftobi 2 жыл бұрын
There's something I don't get. So you have transformed the ecuation into x^(x-1)=1 and found the roots based on some basic rules, but the 2nd one is kinda debatable. If a=-1 that means that a^b is -1^b=-1/(-1)^|b| if b0 then -1^b=1 only if b=2n. So theres a change between odd and even numbers for b depending on whether it is a positive or negative inter. So x=-1 doesn't really work. At least thats how i see it
@OriginalSuschi
@OriginalSuschi 2 жыл бұрын
Suppose x = 2*y, where y is some real number Then (2y)^(2y)=2y Taking the ln on both sides: ln((2y)^(2y))=ln(2y) which is y*ln((2y)^2) = 1/2 *ln((2y)^2) we get the first solution by dividing by the ln(…) assuming it is not equal to zero. then y=1/2 and thus x=1 The other solution is when ln is 0, that’s the case when the inside is equal to 1, so (2y)^2=1 Take the square root and divide by two and we get two solutions: y=+1/2 and y=-1/2 Which leads once again to x=1 but also to the „hidden“ solution x=-1
@aiaioioi
@aiaioioi 2 жыл бұрын
why would you substitute x=2y if you can just do all of that with x tho, since it's not equal to 0 x*ln(|x|) = ln(|x|) ln(|x|)(x-1)=0 ln(|x|)=0 |x|=1 x=±1 (second gives us x=1 anyways)
@aiaioioi
@aiaioioi 2 жыл бұрын
like, we usually take logarithms without the modules since most of the times we're dealing numbers equal or more than 0
@pierreocg
@pierreocg 2 жыл бұрын
Sir, i want to talk about case "x equal zero" Could we say 0^0=0?
@harcha3562
@harcha3562 2 жыл бұрын
No i think. 0^0 is either 1 or undefined. Depends on which part of math we are talking about
@etb753
@etb753 2 жыл бұрын
0^0 is either undefined or 1, which is not a solution
@oZqdiac
@oZqdiac 2 жыл бұрын
0^0 is indeterminate, some people say it is 0, some people say it is 1.
@anic1716
@anic1716 2 жыл бұрын
@@oZqdiac 0^0 can't be zero. There's an open discussion if it's 1 (lim x→0 x^x = 1) or indeterminate but it's can't be 0.
@abhijitmajhi5895
@abhijitmajhi5895 2 жыл бұрын
Simply we can find answer by seeing question
@sumansharma8816
@sumansharma8816 2 жыл бұрын
Look at this....... There is an exponential rule which says that... If:- a^b=a^c Then, b=c so... x^x=x It is also be written as... x^x=x^1 then according to the exponential rule..... x=1
@chainsawmanfan3002
@chainsawmanfan3002 2 жыл бұрын
May I know why she complicating this problem.
@Joseph-we8xw
@Joseph-we8xw 2 жыл бұрын
Multiply both sides by x You'll get X^x+1=x^2 Therefore x+1=2 X=2-1=1
@NotScotishYellow
@NotScotishYellow 2 жыл бұрын
If all x’s need to be the same then x=1 because 1^1=1=x^x=x
@iamthepersonwhoasked5639
@iamthepersonwhoasked5639 2 жыл бұрын
I thought x is 1 because something with a power still stays the same thing if the power is 1 or such and since x is 1 the other x must also be 1
@cantcode023
@cantcode023 2 жыл бұрын
why is x^x ÷ x = 1??
@shadowzangoose
@shadowzangoose 2 жыл бұрын
If you divide both sides by x, that's what happens, since x ÷ x = 1 for all non-zero x
@mr.cheese4169
@mr.cheese4169 2 жыл бұрын
Answer:±1
@starpawsy
@starpawsy 2 жыл бұрын
x=1 is an obvious solution by inspection.
@presa.
@presa. 2 жыл бұрын
Logically no number elevated to itself can be equal to its base except for 1 and -1, this didn't even need an explanation since the equation speaks for itself.
@vasiliykryuchkov7130
@vasiliykryuchkov7130 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know math, could someone explain why we can't just say: a^x=a^1 then x=1?
@LarryLasagna
@LarryLasagna 2 жыл бұрын
3:46 why can’t a=0? 0^0=1
@viganadziratel1962
@viganadziratel1962 2 жыл бұрын
There is a restriction for this equality x > 0, so the answer -1 is not suitable. If you plot x^x, you will see only one solution
@mathwindow
@mathwindow 2 жыл бұрын
LHS = (-1)^(-1) = 1/(-1)^1 = 1/(-1) = -1 = RHS
@masteruser97
@masteruser97 2 жыл бұрын
What? 😂😂. Where do u see the restriction?? Wake up buddy
@viganadziratel1962
@viganadziratel1962 2 жыл бұрын
@@mathwindow You're just lucky that by not imposing restrictions on x, you got the correct equality. For example, if you forget about the constraints when calculating the equation logx(x)=x, you will get wrong solutions. Let's go back to the original equation. The function x^x is only defined for positive values ​​of x, so you must impose the condition x > 0 in this equation
@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753
@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753 2 жыл бұрын
@@masteruser97 Try x^x for x=-1/2 and you will see why it makes sense to define this kind of restriction, at least as long as you're dealing with a real-valued function. Of course you get real values for certain negative x inputs like negative integers, but not only (try x=-1/3 for example). Nevertheless it makes no sense to plot this function for negative x in the classical way because it is highly discontinuous there. There is a (in my eyes) wonderful video explaining all this in detail and also showing ways to get access to the understanding how functions like these can be imagined if you accept the introduction of complex numbers: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZ3FYnSurL1_l68 (The part about x^x starts at 7:23 but I recommend to watch the whole video to see all contexts.)
@riggsmarkham922
@riggsmarkham922 2 жыл бұрын
@@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753 who cares if it’s highly discontinuous there? Doesn’t make it invalid.
@nishadvispute125
@nishadvispute125 2 жыл бұрын
taking log on both sides.... log x^x = log x x log x = log x x= log x / log x so x=1
@awesomesky9492
@awesomesky9492 2 жыл бұрын
Taking log both side and cut log(x) to log(x) ........ x=1
@Ulissescars
@Ulissescars 2 жыл бұрын
This is 1, I don't know if there are other solutions, though.
@lashavardidze2296
@lashavardidze2296 2 жыл бұрын
-1
@SharoPisanchov
@SharoPisanchov 2 жыл бұрын
±1?
@ACheateryearsago
@ACheateryearsago 2 жыл бұрын
@@lashavardidze2296 true
@NuGeera
@NuGeera 2 жыл бұрын
-1
@Ulissescars
@Ulissescars 2 жыл бұрын
I completely forgot -1 lol
@tsomakilentswana4899
@tsomakilentswana4899 2 жыл бұрын
The answer is plus and minus one by inspection
@Nacho_Meter_Stick
@Nacho_Meter_Stick 2 жыл бұрын
i have a math problem to share. turn (x*sqrt(4-x^2) - pi)/(2x^2 - 4) into (x^[something2])/[something] [something] cannot contain any variables [something2] also cannot contain any variables
@ygalel
@ygalel 2 жыл бұрын
Xlnx=lnx so x= 1 or e But e is extraneous so 1 is the only solution
@francishunt562
@francishunt562 2 жыл бұрын
Fairly obvious without having to do the working out
@oZqdiac
@oZqdiac 2 жыл бұрын
Easy solutions, x = ±1. Some people will also say x = 0 as another solution but that is wrong since 0^0 is indeterminate
@Heregoesnuttin
@Heregoesnuttin 2 жыл бұрын
Without skipping to the end, I'ma say "1".
@oZqdiac
@oZqdiac 2 жыл бұрын
Correct but also consider -1
@mappingsworld
@mappingsworld 2 жыл бұрын
X to power of x would be 1 to power of 1. 1(to power of 1) is basically 1 It will not work by anything else other than 1… 2(to power of 2) would equal 4, so NO 3(to power of 3), would equal 9, so NO I think u know what I am getting at
@mappingsworld
@mappingsworld 2 жыл бұрын
1 x 1 x 1 x 1… *I T. W I L L. A L W A Y S. B E. O N E*
@hoshire_AOK4819
@hoshire_AOK4819 2 жыл бұрын
x=+-1
@pranjalrathore4804
@pranjalrathore4804 2 жыл бұрын
take log both sides and answer coming out is 1
@miegorengq
@miegorengq 2 жыл бұрын
I want to ask something, why X^x=x^1 Its same with x^x÷x=1 ? Example, 2^4=2^4, Its not same with 2^4:2=4, 2^4=16, 16÷2=8, 8 not same with 4, so why x^x=x^1 Its same with x^x÷x=1 ?, Please aswer me, Im not understand
@shoryaagarwal677
@shoryaagarwal677 2 жыл бұрын
How I did this was, x^x = x, so x = x^1/x, this implies 1/x = x, so x^2 = 1, therefore x = +1 or -1
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 2 жыл бұрын
x^x = x x • x^(x-1) = x x^(x-1) = 1; x ≠ 0 logₓ(x - 1) = 0 lg(x - 1) / lg(x) = 0 lg(x - 1) = 0 x - 1 = 0 x = 1. But -1 is a solution as well, which I lost when I introduced the log.
@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753
@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753 2 жыл бұрын
Your final solution is correct of course, but I don't understand what you're doing to get from step 3 to 4 as well as from 6 to 7... 🤔
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 2 жыл бұрын
@@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753 log 1 = 0 for any base.
@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753
@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nikioko You're right with what you're saying here but your algebraic steps are not plausible though. Step 3 to 4: If I got you right, you take log with base x on both sides. Indeed this makes 1 become 0, but what about the left side? You would get log_x(x^(x-1))=(x-1)*log_x(x)=x-1 which is not equivalent to what you wrote in step 4. And from lg(x-1)=0 you would get x-1=1, not =0 as you wrote from step 6 to 7. Nevertheless you get the right solution because these 2 algebraic mistakes "annihilate" each other in the end. ;) (Since you get to x-1=0 which is what results if you do step 3/4 correctly as I described above.)
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 2 жыл бұрын
@@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753 Of course it is equivalent. Logarithm of a number to a certain base is equal to logarithm of that number to any base divided by logarithm of the original base to the new base. That is one of the logarithmic rules, the one which lets you convert bases. So, logₓy = lgx/lgy = lnx/lny = log₂x / log₂y = ... As for the rest: I had about 30 seconds to solve this problem, I didn't check everything. But logₓ1 = 0 for any x ∈ ℝ⁺\{1} and vice versa.
@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753
@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nikioko That's right, but this is not what I meant, I was not referring to step 4 to 5. Maybe I expressed myself imprecisely - I should rather say "line" instead of "step" (which you maybe interpreted as respective mathematical transformation between the lines). So once again: Your transformation from *line* 3 to 4 is not correct. From x^(x-1)=1 it follows (after taking log_x on both sides) x-1=0 and NOT log_x(x-1)=0. And from *line* 6 to 7 there is also one mistake: You wrote lg(x-1)=0 x-1=0, but actually it would be lg(x-1)=0 x-1=1. As said: Your final solution is correct, but preceded by 2 algebraic transformation mistakes.
@pendant_animations8757
@pendant_animations8757 2 жыл бұрын
It would have been very simple if you would have added just one more step. x^x ÷ x = 1 => x^x-1 = 1 => x^x-1 = x^0 => x-1 = 0 => x = 1
@kai1523
@kai1523 2 жыл бұрын
Quite simple actually.
@MnO_Brothers
@MnO_Brothers Жыл бұрын
😏X^x=X The Xs are on the both sides of the equation. So the powers of both sides are also equal. So we can take X=+-1 as the solution easily without any hesitation👍
@MikeN1811
@MikeN1811 2 жыл бұрын
Автор, постоянно делает в своих роликах ошибку. Показательная функция y= a^x, для вещественных х, определена только для а>0. Значит это уравнение имеет только одно решение x=1.
@TheFlairRick
@TheFlairRick 2 жыл бұрын
Can you try x^x= 2x, x^x=-x, and x^x=x+2?
@joungi6135
@joungi6135 2 жыл бұрын
Nope
@Zzz_Gamer
@Zzz_Gamer 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand, isn't -1^(-1) = 1/(-1)? In that case x != -1.
@aiaioioi
@aiaioioi 2 жыл бұрын
x^x = (-1)^(-1) = 1/(-1) = -1 x= -1
@diegocabrales
@diegocabrales 2 жыл бұрын
It's not -1^(-1) but (-1)^(-1). If you do -1^(-1), the -1 exponent only affects to 1. Furthermore, (-1)^(-1) = 1/(-1) = -1, so it is a solution of the equation x^x = x.
@rengokukyojuro1384
@rengokukyojuro1384 2 жыл бұрын
x is 1 by observation
@boeubanks7507
@boeubanks7507 2 жыл бұрын
The simplest way to solve this is too just equate the exponents. Simple logic, if the bases are identical, then the exponents have to have identical values to satisfy the equation. Therefore, x equals 1. So, the issue with negative one is a little trickier. If you say x = -1 then the equation, as written isn't really true because you have -1 ^-1 = -1. Those aren't identical equations. However, the rule for negative exponents is that you reduce them by changing them to the positive recripacle. So -1^-1 becomes -1^1. This is identical to the opposite side of the equation. However, this only works for -1 and 1 because the recripicale of 1 is 1. She got the right answer but, I still am not sure she did her math right. Something looked off about the way tried to address the negative root. Maybe someone else can explain what she did better.
@brianpso
@brianpso 2 жыл бұрын
What is this rule that I never heard of? Why can you simply delete the minus from the exponent?
@boeubanks7507
@boeubanks7507 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianpso you invert the exponent (2 becomes 1/2, etc) and remove the negative sign. What your are essentially saying is that negative exponents are another way of writing positive roots. There are proofs out there if you want to look them up. Here is one random one I found: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qX7bc4malp2ErZo
@brianpso
@brianpso 2 жыл бұрын
@@boeubanks7507 My god yeah I remember this now! The example with 2 did the trick. Lol I feel so stupid for not remembering something so basic. Thanks man
@predoshabido7504
@predoshabido7504 2 жыл бұрын
How can you prove that these are the only cases? Btw she included -1 because for example (-1)²=1, if you have any even exponent to -1 you get 1: given n as an integer (-1)^(2n) = [(-1)^n]^2 (-1)^n is either 1 or -1, but regardless, [(-1)^n]^2 = 1
@mathserreurs2479
@mathserreurs2479 2 жыл бұрын
Try x^(x+2)=x^(1-x) You have to get: 0,-1/2, 1 as solutions but not -1 because x+2-(1-x)=-1 not even. Other examples in: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3illmyFl9afraM
@hook-x6f
@hook-x6f 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that was trick question because one popped in my head instantly but I am not really that good at math so I think ahh trick question. There must be another answer. Negative one also answer say hot stuff math window girl. I give thumbs up.
@ruchikarfacts7380
@ruchikarfacts7380 2 жыл бұрын
Olympiad questions 2^pq - 2^rs = 32; where p,q,r,s belongs to natural number then Possible values of p + q + r + s = ? Solution:- kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIO7i2Vjn8aCbtU
@AlexeyEvpalov
@AlexeyEvpalov 2 жыл бұрын
Спасибо.
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 2 жыл бұрын
*[wrote this before watching]* You divide both sides by x. Right becomes x/x which is 1. (x^x)/x affects the power, which turns into x^(x-1). We get x^(x-1) = 1. Now I don't know how to explain this with equations or something, but logically, x has to be equal to 1, because 1^(1-1) is 1^0, which is 1. For every other number, you'd get for example 2^(2-1), which is 2^1, which equals 2, which is _not_ equal to 1. Same with every other number, positive or negative, or zero (which we excluded anyway earlier). Every number except 1. Is that the correct answer? 😌
@defeatist3463
@defeatist3463 2 жыл бұрын
No x can be -1 as well Booooo Jk nice
@harleyjs4565
@harleyjs4565 2 жыл бұрын
If x^x / x^1 = 1 then 1 * x^1 = x^1 so x^x = x^1 that means x = 1
@kartikschannel5297
@kartikschannel5297 2 жыл бұрын
x=1 by observation
@adgf1x
@adgf1x Жыл бұрын
x=Log of x base x=>x=1
@trungoan7572
@trungoan7572 2 жыл бұрын
x^x = x xlnx = lnx lnx(x-1) = 0 lnx = 0 or x-1= 0 => x=1. Anything wrong? Where's x=-1 with this way.
@megamentebr7716
@megamentebr7716 2 жыл бұрын
Solution for the thumbnail equation: x = 1
@charlesbromberick4247
@charlesbromberick4247 2 жыл бұрын
nice job
@lool8421
@lool8421 2 жыл бұрын
when in doubt, let x=1
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