Infact, proving it for diagonalizable matrices is enough. This is because the determinant is a polynomial (and hence continuous) and trace is a continuous functional, and that diagonalizable matrices are dense in the space of matrices
@MichaelPennMath2 жыл бұрын
The idea is that you can write a non-diagonalizable matrix as the limit of a sequence of diagonalizable matrices. Then you apply the special case of the result to each term of the sequence. Finally continuity guarantees the result for the limit of the sequence.
@MichaelPennMath2 жыл бұрын
@Javier Concepción Good question -- I was thinking of matching the space of nxn matrices with R^(n^2) with the usual Euclidean metric. That being said, other settings might also be ok.
@thanhtantran35932 жыл бұрын
@Javier Concepción We can consider the space of matrixes as a normed vector space. Because its dimension is finite, all of its norms are equivalent. So you can take any norm and use the metric induced by it. (Sorry if I make any mistake, I’m not used to doing maths in English!)
@a51101232 жыл бұрын
@Javier Concepción You can use operator norm, R^(n^2) p-norm, or any norm you can imagine. For matrix space, they all induce the same topology. Typically, we use operator norm for theory, and R^(n^2) 2-norm for computation. The latter one is just the square root of sum of square of each entry, which may also view as a norm induced by the inner product =A^T*B (with a fancy name : Frobenius inner product).
@josephmathmusic2 жыл бұрын
Another way is to trigonalise on C which avoids to use density arguments.
@Risu0chan2 жыл бұрын
The corresponding operation to the Lie group multiplication in the Lie algebra is not the Lie bracket but the addition. Indeed, we have exp(x) · exp(y) = exp(x + y) IF they commute (that is [x,y] = xy-yx = 0) .
@howwitty2 жыл бұрын
Awesome... thanks for sharing. When I took ODE, my professor introduced me to matrix exponential and I was blown away. Sometimes I wish I could go back to that time.
@kvazau8444 Жыл бұрын
You can. Just read Fulton & Harris' Representation Theory.
@howwitty Жыл бұрын
@@kvazau8444 Thanks. Copying and pasting stuff in Excel seems to pay better, but I'll look into it.
@Boringpenguin2 жыл бұрын
Yesss a live stream on Lie algebras, I'm already hyped for that!!!
@scottmiller25912 жыл бұрын
13:24 Element (1,2) should be -e^3+e^6, not e^3-e^6 - signs are swapped, but corrected when the board is erased and updated a few seconds later.
@austinmoore8041 Жыл бұрын
The fundamental group of SL(n, C) is trivial, also it's not compact. Hence, drawing it as a genus 2 torus was kind of a lie, but I do like the intuition it sparks.
@DavidSavinainen2 жыл бұрын
To find the determinant, you don’t need to expand the multiplication: det(P M P⁻¹) = det(P) det(M) det(P⁻¹) = = det(P) det(M) det(P)⁻¹ = det(M) for all matrices M and all invertible matrices P. Edit: Maybe I shouldn’t comment before finishing the video. Now I notice that you used this exact trick for the general part. Still, it would’ve saved some effort on the example too.
@demenion35212 жыл бұрын
was about to write about the same :D
@janouglaeser80492 жыл бұрын
Was also going to write the same hahah
@telnobynoyator_61832 жыл бұрын
I also thought of that
@NicholasPellegrino2 жыл бұрын
I think everyone was thinking the same 😛
@evankalis2 жыл бұрын
I thought i knew a good amount about math when i finished calc 1 senior year. I was a newborn then. Math is so beautiful and interconnected. Thank you for sharing this with me. Ill be excited to watch the livestream :)
@apteropith Жыл бұрын
1:00 ah, yes, this determinant/trace exponentiation relation makes some sense, considering that in a matrix's eigenbasis the determinant is the _product_ of the diagonal entries (which are its eigenvalues, and in that basis should be its _only_ entries)
@Handelsbilanzdefizit2 жыл бұрын
This was a good refresher about diagonalization. Thank you.
@EntropicalNature2 жыл бұрын
Incredible video! Thanks a lot for this! @12:53 you made a small mistake in the the upper right entry (a factor of -1) This happens to me all the time when I teach. Glad to see you're human too and glad of course that it was corrected on the next blackboard.
@pecan44342 жыл бұрын
That last part about Lie groups and Lie algebras was really illuminating. I can't wait for the livestream!
@MrDeath5372 жыл бұрын
I took Linear Algebra 5 years ago, I didn't study any further math (not at least for algebra) and I could follow you through the entire video, it is not only a beautiful property and a great explanation, but also brought me nice memories. The connection to Lie groups and algebras got me intrigued, I will read about it! Thanks for the amazing work, keep it up!
@farfa29372 жыл бұрын
It's been eons since I've diagonalized a matrix, so nice reminder! Looking forward to the stream, I learned some basics of group theory but nothing nearly as advances as Lie algebras.
@koenth23592 жыл бұрын
13:27 the right upper coefficient just changed sign when taking over from the previous board. A tacit correction of a previous error.
@Celastrous2 жыл бұрын
Hey Dr. Penn. Thank you so much for these lessons. I've been out of college as an electrical engineer for about 2 years now. When I took linear algebra, I had some personal issues that led to me absorbing little from that class, barely passing. This video is such a good refresher on some of those concepts I've forgotten, like how to find null space.
@michaelaristidou2605 Жыл бұрын
In 11:25 no need for all those multiplications. Just use the multiplicative property of the determinant.
@oleg676642 жыл бұрын
There is really beautiful proof of tr(A) = , it goes like follows: = Now let's recall, that the sum of roots of polynomial of n'th power, written in form x^n + a1 * x^(n - 1) + ... equals to -a1 Thus we need to find the first (or the second, depends on your notation) coefficient of the characteristic polynomial of A, or the polynomial det(A - xI) Now we just need to substitute determinant by the definition through permutations, and notice, that only one summand contributes to the coefficient in front of x^(n - 1), and that is the product of diagonal elements, i.e. (x - a_00)(x - a_11)*...*(x - a_nn), and from here it's not hard to see, that the coefficient in front of x^(n - 1) in characteristic polynomial of A equals to -tr(A), so the sum of eigenvalues of A equals to tr(A) P.S. Sorry for mistakes, I'm not really experienced in explaining math in English
@Czeckie2 жыл бұрын
similar story explains why the product of all the eigenvalues (any contributing as many times as its multiplicity) is equal to the determinant. Just think about the absolute term of the polynomial.
@Jack_Callcott_AU2 жыл бұрын
An observation, e^Tr(A) can never be zero or negative. So does that mean that e^A for any matrix A must always have a positive determinant > 0 , therefore e^A must always have an inverse ( must always be non-singular). Am I right?
@Alex_Deam2 жыл бұрын
Surely the inverse of e^A is just e^(-A)
@Jack_Callcott_AU2 жыл бұрын
@@Alex_Deam Thanks for the reply, yes , I agree, that would be right.
@Anytus20072 жыл бұрын
@@Jack_Callcott_AU Critically, this works because any matrix A always commutes with itself, so there is no ambiguity between e^(A)e^(-A), e^(-A)e^(A), and e^(A-A). In general, if A =/= B, then it is not necessarily true that e^(A)e^(B) = e^(A+B). If the two matrices (or more generally operators, in the infinite dimensional case) do not commute, then there are additional terms related to the commutator, commutator of the commutator, and so on.
@Jack_Callcott_AU2 жыл бұрын
@@Anytus2007 Thanks for the reply.
@wellingtonbalmant59652 жыл бұрын
We use that on Quantum mechanics.
@goodplacetostop29732 жыл бұрын
25:44
@kappasphere Жыл бұрын
11:24 You don't even need to multiply all the matrices, because you can use det(XY)=det(X)det(Y) to figure out that det(PDP^-1)=det(D)=e^3 e^6=e^9
@DeanCalhoun2 жыл бұрын
super interesting! great content as always, thanks michael
@byronwatkins25652 жыл бұрын
At 13:00, upper right is e^6-e^3. I suspect the second eigenvector has a sign error.
@laverami Жыл бұрын
This is so beautiful. I found the equation beautiful and fascinating in the beginning, and find it even more fascinating towards the end of the video. In the beginning I thought, although the symbols we use are so suggestive that this must work, it is actually a miracle how the process of exponentiation retains its structure between the realm of matrices and of scalars. Like, when a caterpillar becomes a butterfly it undergoes a phase where its body (including its brain) is a completely liquified stuff of free floating cells, and still there are experiments showing that the butterfly can remember things it learned before. Towards the end of the video I understand better how the exp, taking on different shapes, keeps its role of translating between addition and multiplication, even if these operators belong to different mathematical structures. And I am no less fascinated how this all works out.
@Chr15T Жыл бұрын
great video! a minor correction: as far as i remember, the trace of a product of matrices is only invariant under cyclical permutations of the matrix product inside. at about 19:15, you made a different permutation and said the trace would not change, which is true but only because your matrices were special.
@lexinwonderland57412 жыл бұрын
AWESOME!!! I've been waiting for more Lie algebra content, thanks for posting this!!! Can't wait for the livestream!!
@lucachiesura51912 жыл бұрын
just also for the jordan normal form
@marcoottina6542 жыл бұрын
I know little to nothing about this branch of Math, indeed your explanations are so much well done that I was able to follow everything and .. this video is beautiful, it merges tons of knowledge in an armonious way. Lovely Thanks for sharing!
@josephmartos2 жыл бұрын
This is what Feynmann used in his Path Integral right???
@AoG26952 жыл бұрын
Linear algebra will always be a favorite of mine. Unfortunately, I haven’t had to use the stuff
@channalbert2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the coolest videos I've seen in YT about mathematics. Wow.
@videolome2 жыл бұрын
Here is a way of doing it, using L’Hospital. Let A be d x d. Let p(z)=det(z I-A), the characteristic polynomial of A. Then one can argue that det(I-xA)= |I-xA|=x^d p(1/x)= 1- tr(A)x + x^2 g(x) Where g is a polynomial. Using L’Hospital, one gets that |I-xA|^(1/x) -> exp(-tr(A)), as x->0. Replacing A by -A and x by 1/n we find Det((I+1/n A)^n) -> exp(tr(A)) (The determinant is continuos and (I+1/n A)^n -> exp(A), as n-> infty. )
@bonsairobo Жыл бұрын
Wow. I had no idea matrix exponentiation maps from a Lie algebra to the Lie group. Very cool. I need to know what the Lie bracket does!
@good_brake Жыл бұрын
It captures the commutativity (or lack thereof) of the Lie group.
@aoehler12 жыл бұрын
we had to prove this when I was in school... one of the most satisfying math assignments I ever did. Thanks for this video!
@Walczyk2 жыл бұрын
There's an error in here! I'll try to find it later. at 13:30 I did an auxillary step to simplify it, I wrote e^A in terms of cosh(3/2) and sinh(3/2) after factoring out an e^(9/2) and 1/3 to get e^A = 1/3 * e^[9/2] * ([3cosh[3/2] - sinh[3/2], sinh[3/2]],[2sinh[3/2], 3cosh[3/2] + sinh[3/2]]), whose trace is quite simple, factoring out a sinh(3/2) makes it easier to see: e^A = 1/3 * Exp[9/2] * Sinh[3/2] * ([3 * Coth[3/2] - 1, 1], [2, 3 * Coth[3/2] + 1]) The determinant here is 1/3 * Exp[9/2] * Sinh[3/2] * (Coth[3/2]^2 - 1) and we can use the identity cothx + 1 = cschx, which gets the det of 1/3 * Exp[9/2] * (csch(3/2) - 2*sinh(3/2))
@mrminer0711662 жыл бұрын
Very pleasant to be able to follow the discussion at 3 different levels, one after another.
@pedrobalodis66172 жыл бұрын
Using the Jordan Classification Theorem (in its complex form) it is fairly easy to prove this, since as any matrix is conjugate to its Jordan form, and the determinant of the exponential of both are therefore equal. Lastly, any triangular matrix the formula its obviously true, are therefore for the Jordan form too.
@alphalunamare2 жыл бұрын
14:20 ... by messing with the minus sign are you not correcting an earlier mistake made at 12:53 in evaluating the top right entry?
@StanleyDevastating2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is a very, very good video. I was familiar with determinant calculations but that's all I remembered, and it was very clear what was happening all the way through, and made Lie algebra seem like an intelligible concept too. High level math content!
@humbledb4jesus Жыл бұрын
ok, michael...you stating that lie algebras are some of your favorites is reason enough for me to stick through these...
@kentgauen2 жыл бұрын
I loved the tie into Lie stuff! Thank you for posting.
@doctorb92642 жыл бұрын
Such an excellent problem and presentation. Your Linear Algebra students are fortunate.
@LorenzoClemente2 жыл бұрын
the love for useless calculations obscures the beauty of the mathematical structure hinted at in this video
@paulsalomon272 жыл бұрын
SUPER cool. By far my favorite math channel.
@jaeimp2 жыл бұрын
@25:28 This is phenomenal. Is the live stream posted anywhere?
@noumanegaou32272 жыл бұрын
We can use the same idea by triangulsable matrix And every n xn are coefficients in C Is triangulsable
@baruchspinoza49792 жыл бұрын
Wow. Thank you Dr. Penn. And thank you again for your excellent differential forms playlist.
@jamiewalker3292 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if you could do a video on the connection between conserved quantities (Noether's theorem) and Lie algebras...
@michaelaristidou260510 күн бұрын
At the end, i think you need to prove the converse to in order to have that Lie(SL2C) = gl2C.
@chrissid.37632 жыл бұрын
Your pronunciation of "eigen-" is absolutely perfekt.
@billconklin5003 Жыл бұрын
Lie groups and linearalgebra nostalgic memories, lots of fun
@saptarshibhattacharya36962 жыл бұрын
It's for proffesors like you that we students remain inspired. Appreciate your effort a lot!
@mrminer0711662 жыл бұрын
Dr. Penn low-key thrilled to have his 9 e^9's lined up after the 1/9!
@user-wu8yq1rb9t2 жыл бұрын
Just Great ... Please more of these (Matrices and ...) Thank you so much Professor
@amadeepl9643 Жыл бұрын
Wow you have my attention, Sir - thank you
@pawebielinski49032 жыл бұрын
The same argumentation passes for Jordan normal form matrices instead of diagonal ones, and that would do the trick as every matrix has a Jnf.
@eytansuchard86402 жыл бұрын
It will be awesome to see a proof of Baker-Campbell-Hausdorff formula. Thank you for this professional and good lecture.
@MasterHigure2 жыл бұрын
During the eigenvalue calculation you swap pretty suddenly from x to λ. Maybe it would be more pedagogical to stick to one of them. Also, at 14:20, instead of pulling the negative sign out, you could pull the 2 out of the other bracket and see that the two brackets are equal, letting you use the binomial theorem. Resulting in a little faster calculation.
@jpalreis2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! It reminded me of a trick that was used during a first ODE course: matrix exponentials could be rewritten as matrix polynomials because of Cayley-Hamilton. That e^A from the example (2x2) would have become a_1*A + a_0*I, where these coefficients could be determined using C-H. I’m not sure if it holds for other types of functions, but it probably should work for smooth, analytic functions or something. Maybe that’s an idea for a video! :)
@angeldude1012 жыл бұрын
This seems like a matrix form of the power laws of a^(x+y) = (a^x)(a^y), and when x = y, a^2x = (a^x)^2. As was mentioned, the trace is the sum of eigenvalues, and the determinant is the product of eigenvalues, so the trace living in the world of addition, and the determinant lives in the world of multiplication, and the exponential is the bridge between these two worlds.
@nataliem44342 жыл бұрын
This has given me so much insight, thank you!
@PunmasterSTP2 жыл бұрын
Matrix exponentials? More like "A lot of potential for learning these videos hold!" Thanks again for recording all these lectures.
@rodionraskolnikov6989 Жыл бұрын
Great presentation! I am not following how the SLn group is representing the double Torus (or the surface of some other "object"). Also, how does it relate to the homology groups (that count the holes in the shape)?
eigenvectors and eigenvales - i just had a flashback to my linear algebra class!
@rikschaaf2 жыл бұрын
13:21 Anyone else noticing the mistake in the top right of the e^A matrix that he changed to the correct value after the next cut?
@grchauvet11 ай бұрын
Matrix exponentials seem quite fun. I wonder if octonion exponentials have any interesting properties.
@speakadreamagency75185 ай бұрын
Very good ! Thank you so mucht o help me understand the Lie groups & Algebra
@misterlau52462 жыл бұрын
Ooh the big picture! @Michael Penn Have you done any video about Fourier Analysis and FFT? If not, do you have any plans for doing so? Cheers, nice job! 🖖🤓
@nahblue Жыл бұрын
The identity with det(Exp(A)) = Exp(tr(A)) really makes me think.. does this not mean that non-diagonal elements of A are meaningless for that determinant? And how does it work out to be that way, that only diagonal entries matter? Is there any intuition for that?
@jeffreycloete8522 жыл бұрын
Hi Prof Penn..thanks for another wonderful exposition..looking forward to the Lie Algebra live stream...
@rickyng18232 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome video. I didn’t learn much about Lie group and Lie Algebra in grad school. Looking forward to your next video, or perhaps a series in the future.
@Hope164492 жыл бұрын
At 11:24 why did you not use that det(A^{-1}) = det(A)^{-1} even though the proof for this identity is short?
@masonholcombe33272 жыл бұрын
Best video yet!
@esbenagerbo7242 жыл бұрын
Isn't det(P) = det (P^-1) = 1, as the eigenvectors form an orthogonal basis for R^n. Haven't looked at this for 30+ years
@senhorkorracha2 жыл бұрын
Man, all I wanted was something more out of Lie algebra. I've used it to show equilibrium points of an ODE system... but I feel like matrix exponential could really provide me an upper bound for the trajectories of this ODE system as well.
@brunocaf86562 жыл бұрын
Seeing the calculation of the exponential of a matrix makes me wonder, have you ever heard about Functional Calculus? It's a quite interesting theory that allows you to calculate matrix functions much more easily without having to diagonalize the matrix, among several other functions, of course
@abrahammekonnen2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm definitely interested in the livestream, what day is it?
@abnereliberganzahernandez6337 Жыл бұрын
you should do more on lie theory
@andreben62242 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the Lie algebra stream. Sounds really cool!
@Bruno089312 жыл бұрын
Your content is awesome.
@nashaut76352 жыл бұрын
That's brilliant indeed (no pun intended). BTW does the illustration at the end have something to do with U-V coordinate mapping of 3D objects in 3D modelling applications?
@_emdoubleu2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see such livestream about Lie algebras
@erds6579 Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks!
@hocinemerah2453 Жыл бұрын
In case matrix of A not diagonalizable how can we calculate exp(tra(A))
@brantonsaurus2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! This really ties together so many loose ends for me in a concise and clear-headed fashion. Definitely looking forward to the livestream!
@abrahammekonnen2 жыл бұрын
Great video, this is gonna take me some time to process.
@miguelaphan588 ай бұрын
Great subject !!!
@gastonsolaril.2372 жыл бұрын
Amazing subjects. After 10 years of so many maths, and still I've got so much to learn... When are you planning to do your Lie Algebra class? Tell us through an Instagram story!!
@khaledchatah34252 жыл бұрын
A question comes to my mind: How do we know that e^( a matrix ) can be expressed as the power series expansion of e^x for matrices . We know that the power series expansion is true on C but. However i don't know about the set of matrices. Did we define it like that or we have some proof?
@drdca82632 жыл бұрын
I believe that is the definition, yes.
@tw5718 Жыл бұрын
I really want to see the livestream. I oftentimes don't see them until after they are done, however. Could you make a couple/few posts about it when it gets closer to time so there is a higher chance I will see it?
@tw5718 Жыл бұрын
Oh I just realized this was 9 mo ago. Disregard.
@mahiainti6782 жыл бұрын
very cool video! thank you!
@Czeckie2 жыл бұрын
so hyped about the lie theory livestream
@tildarusso2 жыл бұрын
This is surprisingly nice trick! Now I am wondering is there any application to this feature? Such as in the Machine Learning area?
@raquelmelgar35312 жыл бұрын
Does someone know where is it posible to find the stream about lie algebras?
@pacificll87622 жыл бұрын
Great video !
@zhuolovesmath74832 жыл бұрын
tr(I) ≠ 0, so the identity is not in the tangent space?
@amiramaz2 жыл бұрын
Is it true to say that detP*detP^-1=1 so we can easily calculate det(e^A)? For all P?
@zsomborhajdu21812 жыл бұрын
As he mentioned the proof was valid only for diagonalizable matrices. The reason for that is they have a nonsingular P matrix which transform them into diagonal form. So for diagonalizable A matrices there are nonsingular P matrices in every case however they are not unique. We have an identity for determinants which says that det(A * B) = det(A) * det(B). Using this, det(P) * det(P^(-1)) = det(P * P^(-1)) = det(I) = 1. Moreover, det(.) is scalar, so we can use the commutative property of scalar multiplication thus det(P) * det(e^A) * det(P^(-1)) = det(P)* det(P^(-1)) * det(e^A) = det(e^A). Did I answer your question?