i love how everyone’s taken it upon themselves to continue rules lawyering in the comment section. the true rule lawyer spirit!! ( ̄^ ̄)ゞ
@Carbadonia3 жыл бұрын
Since most of my group are new to D&D comparatively, it usually falls on me, the DM, and sometimes our currently Ranger (formerly played Barbarian, rip Bhakyl) but typically only for monsters in his case since like me he loves to read up on D&D monsters. Helps keep our gameplay going and teaching our greener party members the game, although we are all prone to making mistakes now and again, we can't memorize the entire book by heart and then interpret those rules in a given situation after all haha
@commandercaptain46643 жыл бұрын
Actually, rules lawyering is not a mere comment, but a decree, and therefore above comment section classification.
@GerardInandan3 жыл бұрын
Truly! Hahahahahahaha
@thief053 жыл бұрын
I love how you stole this content. tf is wrong with you
@darklightwhatever69703 жыл бұрын
just curious...i thought pit fiend's could be harmed by silvered weapons?
@cmattss42 жыл бұрын
Love the backstory that Brennan wrote the prompt and was awestruck that Mercer noticed an unintentional mistake
@paradoxxis86122 жыл бұрын
He did not. Matt was wrong.
@kannonball57892 жыл бұрын
@@paradoxxis8612 bingo, a pit fiend is affected by silvered weapons
@EpicNerdsWithCameras2 жыл бұрын
@@kannonball5789 So you could say that...Brennan was wrong about being wrong?
@kaizenkltr2 жыл бұрын
@@EpicNerdsWithCameras the house always wins
@kaizenkltr2 жыл бұрын
@@scottalleman4564 the ball is rolling up
@ASquared5443 жыл бұрын
Matt Mercer’s explanation was a well needed catharsis after listening to that nightmare of a D&D scenario
@Varakanok3 жыл бұрын
Feels like a Reddit post, doesn't it?
@dr.zespert3 жыл бұрын
i feel that
@nicklewis8763 жыл бұрын
I started nervous blinking listening to it. Never had that happen before.
@PrettyGuardian3 жыл бұрын
Here it goes, I sped, I followed too closely, I ran a stop sign, I almost hit a chevy, I sped some more, I failed to yield at a crosswalk, I sped some more, I changed lanes in the intersection, I changed lanes without signaling while running a red light, and speeding!
@behunter2153 жыл бұрын
It was very soothing ❤
@theBATgoesUPoh3 жыл бұрын
Anyone who isn't familiar with Critical Role should know that even Matt Mercer, the man who just laid down the D&D law, still finds room for rule breaking flair in his games. To him, the number one rule that trumps the rest entirely is the Rule of Fun
@MayHugger2 жыл бұрын
Also that the DM dictates how everything works, their rules outrank whatever any other book might say.
@romanterry72152 жыл бұрын
@@MayHugger Rule 0 is the best rule
@rory81822 жыл бұрын
@@MayHugger you cannot question god they have the wifi password
@Fellkun2 жыл бұрын
Yep Matt is a gentle rule lawyer he can make it strictly by the books but he add fun
@animorte97902 жыл бұрын
"Umm... Sure, I'll allow it."
@shoehornjim3 жыл бұрын
Trapp: "How many errors did you find, Matt?" Matt: "Twenty" The guy who drew the comic and put 18 errors in: ',:|
@dndforbeginners3 жыл бұрын
right off the batt I found 20 and they werent all the same as matts
@davidp58233 жыл бұрын
@@dndforbeginners Well what are they?
@ezngen91823 жыл бұрын
@@davidp5823 Someone broke the game harder than Matt, there is another
@DonNinja053 жыл бұрын
EDIT (22.05.2022) Y'ALL, Hold Monster works on any creature. The spell's description says "Choose a creature that you can see within range." so it would work on the Goliath. ALSO, anything not explicitly stated in the text, isn't relevant. I know that Light Domain clerics can cast fireball, however Omerek isn't stated to be a light domain cleric. @@davidp5823 Let's see what I can find with a thorough search: Panel 1: 1. Demilich is just a head, art is wrong Panel 2: 2. Reactions have to be triggered on other creatures' turns, unless otherwise stated 3. Attacks of opportunity happen when leaving opponent's threatening spaces, not when entering them. 4. Silvered axe does no damage to a pit fiend | EDIT: Pit fiends take damage from silvered non-magical weapons, so this point is moot EDIT 26. Dodge is not a reaction Panel 3: 5. Rolling initiative now makes no sense as combat has already started 6. Pit fiend can not cast hold monster and attack since they both take up an action Panel 4: 7. Gruumsh One-Eye is not God of the Forge 8. Fireball is not a 2nd level spell 9. Fireball is not a Cleric spell 10. Pit fiends have immunity to fire damage, meaning the pit fiend would not be destroyed Panel 5: 11. Benign Transposition switches 2 creatures' spaces, it does not make someone go invisible 12. Drinking a potion and casting Benign Transposition both take up an action EDIT 27. Invisibility is a touch spell, Calliope is not touching Uma Panel 6: 13. Howl attack is not a single creature attack, but an area of effect action 14. Demiliches have truesight, so it would not have missed Una 15. Legendary actions can only be taken after other creature's turns 16. Vile Curse is a wisdom save, not a charisma save 17. A Demlich can only use one legendary action at a time 18. A Demilich can only fly 15 ft with a legendary action (given that it has the base 30 ft fly speed) EDIT 28. A Demilich only has 3 legendary actions per round of combat, Vile Curse costs 3 actions, so it would not be able to use Vile Curse and flight legendary actions during the same round. Panel 7: 19. Jump is not a skill, but part of movement 20. Nat 30 is impossible 21. Sneak attack is not possible 22. Turn Undead is not a rogue ability 23. Turn Undead is an action 24. Turn Undead is not powerful enough to destroy a Demilich 25. Demiliches are immune to effects that turn undead This is all I've found, there might be more I've missed.
@thetruestinsanegamer103 жыл бұрын
@@DonNinja05 I think I've heard a light cleric can use fireball? But the dwarf seems to be a "forge domain" cleric, which can't use it.
@СветкаВолков3 жыл бұрын
Really shows how nice he is with his friends. Less lawyering because he just wants everyone to have a good time. A lot more cocking his head, laughing, and just going "... Sure." on CR.
@Puffleman243 жыл бұрын
I’m convinced that half the skill of being a good DM is knowing how to use the rules to make things fun but the other half is knowing _when_ to use the rules because sometimes it’s more interesting to let some things slide
@Vanq173 жыл бұрын
@@Puffleman24 It literally says so on the first page of the Players Handbook, the rules are there to help guide the story, not restrict it. Sometimes the rule of cool is all that is needed.
@Puffleman243 жыл бұрын
@@Vanq17 Exactly! There are some rules that you have to keep (distance, movement, AC etc) but I like to jiggle enemy HP every now and again if it gives the players a cool moment :P
@leahbeah15853 жыл бұрын
@@Puffleman24 exactly, you have to know what the rules are before you break them
@acetraineraster51713 жыл бұрын
Matt Mercer iconic CR quotes "....Sure." "I'll allow it." "You can certainly try."
@MrJuliansnow2 жыл бұрын
I've watched this over and over because as pointed out, "there is something very satisfying about watching someone just be very good at something". Truth.
@gitadine Жыл бұрын
I'm your 666th like - that's satisfying for me as well 😂
@handlenotaken23 күн бұрын
I've heard people call it 'competence porn'.
@SirusXIII3 жыл бұрын
The best part of Matt's flex in this is that there isn't even a hint of ego. He's the picture of true humility.
@hahmann3 жыл бұрын
Strangely enough he has the demeanor of a martial artist.
@thebishopofme3 жыл бұрын
He's just like "oh, hey and this is wrong too, but not a big deal" such a cool dude
@dolofonosesostrefis3 жыл бұрын
He literally finds something the question didn't account for and doesn't comment on it, love him
@seanthomas53033 жыл бұрын
It comes across that way because it comes from a place of love of the game and affection for others rather than a desire to humiliate, dominate, or puff himself up.
@cassiemoyles41773 жыл бұрын
@@seanthomas5303 so well put! :)
@tea-br2ox3 жыл бұрын
This is like the Galadriel gift to Gimli. "We asked for 18 errors; matt found 20"
@bryanwoods33733 жыл бұрын
But finding more is the exact thing the show is about. It was the one thing I was expecting watching the clip.
@cristiaolson73273 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@zrampagegaming26743 жыл бұрын
The pit fiend shouldn't have been able to cast hold person and attack in the same turn either I believe
@commandercaptain46643 жыл бұрын
ALL SHALL LOVE HIM AND DESPAAAHHHHHH!
@commandercaptain46643 жыл бұрын
@@zrampagegaming2674 Not to mention it cast Hold Monster on a person, which is the wrong spell.
@donnamitsuki2813 жыл бұрын
Me: **still learning D&D rules** Also me: **nods at everything Matt says as if I know exactly what he's saying**
@whitestoneandy7972 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@jan_Sanku2 жыл бұрын
i feel that
@danielrosenthal56162 жыл бұрын
lolol preach
@098764321551234678902 жыл бұрын
Even if he was partially wrong... for example silver weapons do work on pit fiends.
@Vee_9001 Жыл бұрын
And here I was getting excited that I knew that drinking a potion is an action and you can’t get attacks of opportunity like that.
@alphahunter47913 жыл бұрын
I find some peace of mind knowing that even though we may not get a Brennan Matt face off we still have Brennan fact checking Matt on DnD related questions behind the scenes.
@titanium61393 жыл бұрын
Oh if you want some Matt and Brennan action, the dimension 20 series bloodkeep has Matt as a player and Brennan as a DM
@alphahunter47913 жыл бұрын
@@titanium6139 watched it upon release, I need more to get my fix though
@aster17603 жыл бұрын
@@alphahunter4791 they also did quite a few face off questionnaire games with eachother and a few talk show stuff togeather if you want more, they were both very fun to watch
@Lixhewettcreative3 жыл бұрын
@@titanium6139 pirates of leviathan does as well! (bonus marisha, too, though the entire cast is fantastic)
@titanium61393 жыл бұрын
@@Lixhewettcreative Ah I haven’t gotten to see that yet! Just got Dropout though
@danielluna92133 жыл бұрын
"Oh look, Matt Mercer missed this" -People after analyzing for 2 hours when MM had 1min
@duranpredur10983 жыл бұрын
I don't think people are dissing Matt, just expanding on the game and tracking down every error that inevitably escaped.
@joeyfromschool3 жыл бұрын
Yeh nerdy pedantry is the name of the game, Mercer killed it regardless
@danielluna92133 жыл бұрын
@Evert van Dalen Hold monster does affect humanoids. what are you talking about?
@Guillotine11233 жыл бұрын
@Evert van Dalen Yes Pit fiend has the Multiattack action allowing 4 attacks with each of its weapons
@Guillotine11233 жыл бұрын
@Evert van Dalen oh yeah i some how missed that entire last part of your question lol
@oricalu4489 ай бұрын
Every few months, I come back to this video, thinking "Oh, I know more about D&D now, I wonder how much more I will understand", and I am always blown away by how much I still miss
@CrzyLion3 жыл бұрын
Saying gruumsh one eye is a dwarven god of the forge is such an insult, random dwarves in a different universe wrote it down in the book of grudges.
@belowthebargaming93153 жыл бұрын
Dwarfs* ;)
@ultrabigfella3 жыл бұрын
@@belowthebargaming9315 does it really matter?
@elf-lordsfriarofthemeadowl20393 жыл бұрын
@@ultrabigfella for Warhammer, YES
@GirishManjunathMusic3 жыл бұрын
@@ultrabigfella the english word dwarf has a plural dwarfs. The Tolkeinian race of dwarf has the plural dwarves.
@Max31103 жыл бұрын
@@GirishManjunathMusic other way round NVM I will delete myself. Should double check before writing. Really. Sry
@Creeplet3 жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone's mentioned this but invisibility has a range of touch and the picture depicts them casting it at range.
@BenKingEagles3 жыл бұрын
Nevermind the fact that Benign Transposition, which Matt missed, is NOT used to cast invisibility, it's used to swap 2 character positions.
@Mega2chan3 жыл бұрын
also a simple one that he missed is that the pit fiend cast hold monster on a human, so it shouldn’t have worked like in the picture
@marc0s1583 жыл бұрын
@@Mega2chan haha! "Um actually" All creatures in dungeons and dragons are considered monsters, thus making the spell hold monster, able to target any creature, humans included. Hold person targets solely humanoids. The selectivity is the difference. Common misconception
@Ynxzz3 жыл бұрын
@@slowner295 sorry bud, unfortunately they’re right. Everything is considered a creature in the eyes of D&D
@DarkCurow3 жыл бұрын
@@slowner295 Hold Monster Choose a creature that you can see within range. The target must succeed on a Wisdom saving throw or be Paralyzed for the Duration. This spell has no Effect on Undead. At the end of each of its turns, the target can make another Wisdom saving throw. On a success, the spell ends on the target. At Higher Levels: When you cast this spell using a spell slot of 6th level or higher, you can target on additional creature for each slot level above 5th. The creatures must be within 30 feet of each other when you target them. Hold Monster is just the higher level and better version of Hold Person.
@VexWerewolf2 жыл бұрын
I love how he did the legendary thing of getting more than 100% on a test because he found something wrong with the test
@paradoxxis86122 жыл бұрын
Except he didn't. He was wrong about it.
@TheFiddleFaddle8 ай бұрын
@@paradoxxis8612 Which makes me happy. Even the best DMs can get it wrong, which is why Matt always keeps the books handy when he's DMing.
@nigh_anxiety7 ай бұрын
Pit Fiends can in fact be harmed by Silvered weapons. Balor's can only be harmed my magical weapons. He also missed that the Pit Fiend can't cast Hold Monster and attack on the same turn.
@VexWerewolf7 ай бұрын
@@nigh_anxiety I don't care
@FinnMcRiangabra7 ай бұрын
@@nigh_anxiety How many did you catch - no don't answer, it will just be a lie because you are "that guy."
@TransTess3 жыл бұрын
There's something so fun about rules lawyering in a friendly context.
@alantremonti13812 жыл бұрын
Tess gets it.
@Mysteri0usChannel2 жыл бұрын
It's like the difference between parody and satire.
@LordVader10942 жыл бұрын
@@Mysteri0usChannel How so?
@Mysteri0usChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@LordVader1094 Parodies come from a place of admiration, satire is actually meant to criticize to the point of insult.
@ralek5922 жыл бұрын
Kinda like the programmer competition thing where they program.. fast? I remember something about C# or C++
@GeneralAceTheAwesome3 жыл бұрын
Listening to the mistake-ridden combat description: 12d12 psychic damage Listening to Matt list off all of the mistakes: _Power Word: Heal_
@@Ramsey276one Actually, the strange thing is that Mercer didn't have time to list even more. I remember there being up to 5 other mistakes if you really give it whole level scrutiny. Including the pitt fiend casting hold person.
@KanuckStreams2 жыл бұрын
YEEES
@jimmysthoughts85712 жыл бұрын
Remember everyone, Matt is a fantastic DM! That means he didn't miss any of the mistakes, he just ignored some of them for the sake of the rule of cool, lol
@killaved42622 жыл бұрын
Or not. Being a good dm has nothing to do with rules, a dm probably has less experience leveling up than a player and a player wouldnt know a lot of stuff a dm will. Plus he had one minute while the comments section had a lot of time.
@loyalty52072 жыл бұрын
Don't worry Jimmy, I realized the joke even if the other two didn't.
@otbaht2 жыл бұрын
fun trumps rules especially since rule one is something like "the dm can change the rules" iirc
@thewinter_2 жыл бұрын
@@otbaht rule 0: the dm is always right, even if the dm's decision doesn't line up with rules as written, no exceptions.
@Agent1W2 жыл бұрын
@@thewinter_ As cops would tell the public in RL, just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean you have immunity from the consequences. ALL actions have consequences, so it matters how(and even WHY) the DM is "always" "right". A DM that makes a bonehead decision or a spate of bonehead decisions "because the DM is already right" and does not repent afterwards can enjoy being the DM of a 0-player group in a time not that long from the moment. "Always right" takes a backseat to SATISFYING the players. So Rule -1: Satisfy the players.
@akulatraxus91533 жыл бұрын
The true skill is knowing all the rules AND knowing when to hand wave them. Bless MM.
@Iced3332 жыл бұрын
I've helped a few friends DM their first games and i always let them know that they are free to change any rule but DnD is a tower of systems built on rules and if you don't know anything about construction you should be very careful when knocking out random walls. Once you know more about structural engineering you can know what walls to take out and when to do it.
@akulatraxus91532 жыл бұрын
@@Iced333 Wise words, well spoken. Or typed... wahtever.
@tofton19773 жыл бұрын
Somewhere in CR Campaign 2: Marisha: "Can i get advantage because of people screaming my name?" Matt (with a soft voice): "No..."
@andrewh.99373 жыл бұрын
Was that the drinking contest?
@tofton19773 жыл бұрын
@@andrewh.9937 yup!
@AndrewJW3 жыл бұрын
Should've asked for inspiration instead of advantage lol
@Oktobyr2 жыл бұрын
Hearing Matt roll all of that off as second nature is almost its own form of ASMR.
@mmasmaza1233 жыл бұрын
Can't believe I missed fireball not being a cleric spell because I play a light cleric x)
@DarkAuraLord3 жыл бұрын
when I read that panel, I thought it was odd, but I would believe a cleric of a forge god would have fire ball, so I didn't check.
@felixrogers12953 жыл бұрын
@@DarkAuraLord Actually only Light Clerics get fireball, Forge Clerics do not
@WardNightstone3 жыл бұрын
@@DarkAuraLord yea honnestly there are times when do to either domain or diety it makes sense for a charicter to have a spell i also wouldn't have questioned a cleric of the god of the forge (Kord i belive?) having Heat metal
@Mittens_McG3 жыл бұрын
I'm so used to pathfinder. So many Healing clerics use Sarenrae which happens to give them fireball. A cleric casting fireball seemed totally normal to me.
@chaosblackstone72863 жыл бұрын
@@WardNightstone That would totally make sense. For whatever it's worth the dwarven god of the forge is Moradin (since they said the dwarven god in the question), although the are several other gods a forge domain cleric could worship. Also I think Kord is normally tempest domain, if I'm remembering right he's the Storm Lord. sorry for the over complicated response but hey it's Um Actually after all.
@ronin79973 жыл бұрын
Matt is also the most scrutinized DM running D&D as well due to the popularity of Critical Role. He's going to naturally have an encyclopedic understanding of the rules based on back-seat DMs nitpicking his games.
@fenixmeaney61703 жыл бұрын
And YEARS of homegame, and plenty more before
@FerreusVir3 жыл бұрын
Guy has also been playing DnD for longer than some, if not most, of his audience have been alive.
@rockzyk12913 жыл бұрын
It's frustrating that people do that to him without understanding or accepting that: A. It is also a show for entertainment B. Sometimes things are more fun/cool if you skirt the rules a tiny bit. Not EVERYTHING has to be by the books.
@Chronostra3 жыл бұрын
@@rockzyk1291 also, isn't critical role is homebrew-y game also?
@rockzyk12913 жыл бұрын
@@Chronostra I believe so, but I don't know all of the specifics of it.
@juliawidobravely2 жыл бұрын
I felt so much horror hearing that round of combat. It would've been fun to see the contestants reacting as it was read off--the looks on their faces would've been HILARIOUS.
@TheUberMeister20093 жыл бұрын
They also forgot that benign transpositions isn't invisibility but swapping places and that vile curse is 3 LR so it wouldn't even be able to use flight on the end of the next turn
@lincalmighty3 жыл бұрын
Casting hold monster is an action, so the pit fiend wouldn't get to make its multi-attack that also costs an action.
@antonionunez37593 жыл бұрын
Good catch.
@toribiogubert77293 жыл бұрын
@@lincalmighty on the pit fiend attacks, he use claws and mace.
@LightningBoltSpark3 жыл бұрын
@@toribiogubert7729 It uses Bite, Claw, Mace and Tail as part of its Multiattack Action.
@IAmDaedem3 жыл бұрын
@@toribiogubert7729 yes and multi-attacking is an action, just like casting a spell. You can't do both.
@darkhorseash43373 жыл бұрын
He also missed the fact that the pit fiend couldn't do hold monster and those attacks on the same turn I think (I didn't hear him say it)
@birkbrene19723 жыл бұрын
Also hold monster doesn't work on people.
@sufficientlyadvancedplagiarism3 жыл бұрын
@@birkbrene1972 Not correct. Hold Person is limited to humanoids, but Hold Monster is the better version that works on all creatures, which does include humanoids.
@PointsofData3 жыл бұрын
@@sufficientlyadvancedplagiarism well hot damn I learned something today
@thememegang53953 жыл бұрын
@@birkbrene1972 you are probably thinking of hold beast which only effects animals, while hold monster works on everyone
@pedrofdez-ordonez3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this
@unfathomable9063 жыл бұрын
I love that there was a moment when my 3 favorite DMs of all time (Matt, Murph, Brennan) were all in the same room
@zander3115 Жыл бұрын
sameee, I heard Brennan off screen and I got so happy
@beetledjuice30623 жыл бұрын
Tha mark of a good DM, knows all the rules to break them properly.
@dergartenzwergvonnebenan3 жыл бұрын
I think I found a mistake that nobody else has pointed out yet: Una is a halfling (speed of 25 feet) and therefore wouldn't be able to "clear the 30 feet to the demilich" (unless she used her bonus action to dash, which she can do as a rogue, but the panel describes her using a different bonus action, although an impossible one). Feel free to educate me if this is wrong.
@Luthies3 жыл бұрын
I think it's redundant as Jump is not a skill, and jumping is based on your str score instead of movement afaik.
@alexholder16463 жыл бұрын
While your strength score does determine how far you can jump, the movement you travel during the jump is still limited by your movement speed so if their Max move speed is 25ft a 30ft jump wouldn’t be possible in a single turn.
@jackwhitneyVO3 жыл бұрын
You are correct, however they also would not be able to clear it as jump distance depends on your strength score, a foot for each point in strength. where 30 is pretty much impossible. They also would not be able to land next to a flying lich.
@UpsideZown3 жыл бұрын
Matt's statement of Una not getting sneak attack is also incorrect, as Una was made Invisible by Calliope. Rogues in Invisibility do get sneak attack damage when attacking from invisibility.
@jackwhitneyVO3 жыл бұрын
@@UpsideZown Not against a Lich with truesight they don't
@VictorVonGrooove3 жыл бұрын
After watching Critical Role for only a year, I'm really proud of myself for noticing a few of those mistakes/errors/falsehoods. Matt is a wise master.
@CatchThesePaws2 жыл бұрын
Omg me too, I only got three.. but after watching Matt explain everything I did recognize some! The majority of it went completely over my head though lmao
@joelrobinson5457 Жыл бұрын
He himself has said he is not infallible, even he makes mistakes, and that's OK, there's a lot to keep track of, and so long as you and your players are happy, it honestly dosen't matter
@godleydemon3 жыл бұрын
I just love, in the heat of the moment with a time limit. They expected him to find 18 and he found 20. Of course, we all have the benefit of sitting back and looking at things for a longer period of time. But Matt, holy shit, just straight up goes through them like a machine. lol
@professorsypher61743 жыл бұрын
Can we just have Matt do this every once in a while? That was just amazingly fun to watch!
@Maxplosives3 жыл бұрын
I jotted down mistakes I saw, and while I missed a lot that Matt got, I feel proud to have spotted these ones that he didn't: - Pit fiend would not be able to do its multiattack after using Hold Monster on the same turn - Benign Transposition doesn't do that (it's used to make creatures swap places) - Invisibility is a Touch spell, so either the picture is inaccurate or the spell couldn't have been used since the caster and affected character weren't making contact - Demiliches (and regular liches) have Truesight, so the Invisibility wouldn't have mattered regardless of what it used - Only one legendary action can be used at a time I missed like half the ones Matt got, so I'm definitely not one-upping him. And then a couple others I found after the fact and am just noting because I find it interesting: Assuming the demilich is meant to be interpreted as having a demilich's stat block and it's just the drawing that is incorrect, the Flight legendary action only lets them fly up to half its flying speed, meaning it could only go 15ft at most; it also wouldn't be able to fly at all because Vile Curse uses 3 legendary actions, so it would be all out until the start of its next turn. (If the demilich IS meant to be interpreted as a lich, this entire part is wrong because none of the things the "demilich" did are available to liches.) I'm definitely not claiming to have already known this much since I absolutely looked it up after, but I figured it was worth noting.
@cadencehouse5392 жыл бұрын
Hi, I know this is an old comment, but I also noticed something. Forge domain clerics do not get the fireball spell, as far as I know
@Maxplosives2 жыл бұрын
@@cadencehouse539 Matt actually already covered that!
@Thenonymous12 жыл бұрын
I have a question and possible issue with one of Matt's spotted errors: he makes a point about the pitfiend being immune to non-magical weapons, but I have been under the assumption that a silvered weapon overcomes non-magical resistance and, by extention, immunity.
@Maxplosives2 жыл бұрын
@@Thenonymous1 It doesn't always work that way, RAW. Some creatures specifically say "...that aren't silvered" at the end of weapon resistances and immunities; if it doesn't say that, silvered weapons don't bypass it. That said, Pit Fiends ARE one of the creatures where it specifically says "...that aren't silvered", so silvering WOULD bypass its resistance (it's only resistant, not immune). So you're right on that part! Makes sense now that they said they hadn't written that down for the question's answers.
@pronkster95502 жыл бұрын
Correct me if im wrong, but id like to add onto this comment (also great work finding all these mistakes) isnt it also a mistake that the pit fiend casts "hold monster" on the goliath (humanoid) since the goliath isnt a monster?
@nattojelly83493 жыл бұрын
The master has spoken Edit: I am surprised how much I learned about the rules just by watching CR as someone who has not read the rule books yet.
@celesteelka3 жыл бұрын
Same here! I'm about to dm my first campaign and I'm nervous about my knowledge of the rules, but after this I'm pretty confident! I found most of the mistakes.
@matthewevans54863 жыл бұрын
@@celesteelka try not to worry so much about the rules for the first few sessions. You can worry about rules once you're more comfortable DMing
@eleanorcooke71363 жыл бұрын
@@celesteelka also don't be scared to fudge things. I had my party come into combat with a dragon and as everyone was having faun but very low on health, I rolled two Nat 20s in a row which would've outright killed them. It's all about having fun. If you're having fun and they're having fun, then don't be afraid to not completely follow the rules.
@bmalloy03 жыл бұрын
@@celesteelka As others have said, feel comfortable playing the rules a little loose. At the end of the day, it's a game... you and your players want to have fun
@videogamecoverss3 жыл бұрын
@@celesteelka Also don't forget, what happens ultimately comes down to the DM, The most important thing is for your players to have fun.
@05ywjc803 жыл бұрын
Matt did a fantastic job. In addition: 1. The Pit Fiend also cast a spell with a time of Action, as well as used its multiattack 2. Benign Transposition does not allow the Wizard to cast a spell, it's based on switching positions. 3. Benign Transposition is an Action, which makes Calliope as having taken 3 actions (In addition to Invisibility and Potion drinking) 4. The Demilich used two legendary actions in one turn (Vile Curse, and Movement) 5. The Demilich's movement is half its movespeed, which is 15 feet , not 30 (I missed this one until I checked afterwards) 6. Una's invisibility has disappeared before she makes her attack. (This would not give her Sneak Attack, as Vile Curse is imposing disadvantage on her attack roll)
@galion19913 жыл бұрын
Also: Dodge is not a reaction.
@TaggedByTim3 жыл бұрын
Small nitpick, it's a lich not a demi lich. They say in the video a demi lich is just the skull of a lich.
@DataumCats3 жыл бұрын
@@TaggedByTim Yea but its doing demilich things all the time. You could farm the art mistake for a bunch of mistakes by saying it's actually a lich, but if it does no lich things and does do a lot of demilich things, better to say it's a demilich that's represented incorrectly
@DataumCats3 жыл бұрын
on 6: Invisibility doesn't matter at any point. Both a demilich and pit fiend have true sight.
@DoctorLazers3 жыл бұрын
There's More! - Silver actually does damage Pit Fiends. - Even if Fireball COULD damage a Pit Fiend, the maximum possible amount of damage from this spell would not kill the Pit Fiend. It has 300 Hit Points. - Even if the Pit Fiend could use two legendary actions in one round, one of them cannot be Vile Curse as it uses up all of a Pit Fiend's available Legendary actions. - Demilich have Truesight and thus would not be affected by the Invisibility, regardless of the attack it used. - The Demilich is immune to nonmagical weapon attacks, so would not be damaged by the sneak attack. - Character level is never stated, but assuming a 20th level rogue, the max damage she could deal with a single Sneak Attack is 71 The Demilich has 80 hit points. - Demilich have Turn Immunity. - Turn Undead does not destroy Undead. The related ability, Destroy Undead does that. - The Demilich has Legendary Resistance and thus cannot be destroyed in this instance, because it would use LR on the saving throw.
@robs.18683 жыл бұрын
As a Conjuration Wizard I would just like to point out that benign transposition is a class feature which doesn’t allow you to cast an invisibility spell on another creature.
@joshduhman20293 жыл бұрын
"gruumsh, dwavern god of the forge" Dwarves: *convulses*
@Jaydee86523 жыл бұрын
To be honest that was the only one I caught, I know more about the lore than the rules.
@blockeontheleafeon24 күн бұрын
3:02 I just wanna say, I'm glad they fixed this. You now *can* cast a Spell and drink a Potion on the same Turn. Drinking a Potion now counts as a Bonus Action, rather than a Standard Action like how casting a Spell takes up an Action.
@tenjoe43 жыл бұрын
Thank god someone clipped this
@endlessnoodle30563 жыл бұрын
Akshtschuyally, pit fiend is only immuned to fire and poison. Resistances to cold, bludgeoning, piercing and slashing damages don't apply when pit fiend is hit with silvered weapons
@Redman-24903 жыл бұрын
Akshtschuyally, the pit fiend is resistant to NON MAGICAL weapons which is what the silvered axe is.
@endlessnoodle30563 жыл бұрын
@@Redman-2490 AKKSCHUYALYU, Monster Manual page 77. "Damage Resistances cold; bludgeoning; piercing, and slashing from nonmagical attacks NOT MADE WITH SILVERED WEAPONS". Silvered weapons count as magical against pretty much all demons.
@JohnTux_3 жыл бұрын
This bothered me so I came to check if there is a valiant person pointing this out. Thank you!
I'm on a Matt Mercer binge, the man is glorious to watch/listen to.
@stone5against13 жыл бұрын
"And as always, you get.. one point!" Aww man!
@rayswift57113 жыл бұрын
"Fireball is not a cleric spell" - Light Domain sends their regards.
@dragonstryk72803 жыл бұрын
God of the Forge doesn't give the Light domain
@kyleweir6893 жыл бұрын
It's also still not a cleric spell, it's on an expanded spell list via the domain
@duranpredur10983 жыл бұрын
@@kyleweir689 But the fact that "Fireball is not a cleric spell" is not enough to say it was a mistake still stands.
@kyleweir6893 жыл бұрын
@@duranpredur1098 they specified that any information like race or subclass would be given in full detail as to clear that up. So fireball is not a cleric spell.
@SpitfiretheCat163 жыл бұрын
If the Cleric was Light Domain it would have been specified. He's functionally domain-less, so he for all intents and purposes can only access the base Cleric list.
@Maninawig3 жыл бұрын
This made me realize just how much of a trivia master a DM must be.
@TimeturnerJ3 жыл бұрын
I'm only just halfway through the panels and I've already taken 10d10 psychic damage. Help. 😭
@ChargeQM3 жыл бұрын
You recover it if you get a high enough Spot or Insight roll
@eleanorcooke71363 жыл бұрын
@@ChargeQM you'd need a Nat 30 for that
@marvinhubregtse57763 жыл бұрын
matt finding a rule that they didnt even spot is hillarious
@HenriqueErzinger3 жыл бұрын
He was wrong about it, as many people have commented, but still...
@Avengedtenfold Жыл бұрын
Matt was likely thinking about AD&D, where a lot of monsters (including the Pit Fiend) are immune to mundane weapons and require a certain amount of enhancement on the weapon hurting it. In the case of Pit Fiends, it's +3.
@DeeDee-ye5qe Жыл бұрын
4:00 my man laughing in the distance LOL
@thatepicwizardguy3 жыл бұрын
the silver axe would actually deal damage since pit fiends specify "Nonmagical Attacks That Aren't Silvered"
@feltrix3342 жыл бұрын
Also, pit fiends don't have immunity to nonmagical, nonsilvered damage, so even a mundane axe would still hurt it.
@videogamecoverss2 жыл бұрын
@@feltrix334 Damage Resistance Cold; Bludgeoning, Piercing, and Slashing From Nonmagical Attacks That Aren't Silvered Axe would be slashing
@tempname33082 жыл бұрын
@VideoGameCovers resistance is half damage. So, would still deal partial damage. Hence, “would still take (some) damage”.. you know? The original comment from Matt was about immunity to non-magical damage (which is more of a specialized niche than “standard devil” resistances/immunities). So, two minor errors: pit fiends aren’t *immune* to ANY weapon (bludgeoning, piercing, slashing) damage; and even though they do resist mundane/non-magic weapon damage, they do NOT resist Silvered weapon damage. The person who set up the problem did get that bit correct. Intentionally? That I couldn’t tell you.
@syloentertainment11002 жыл бұрын
@@videogamecoverss immunity vs resistance, take half damage vs no damge
@romxxii2 жыл бұрын
@@tempname3308 Brennan wrote the question, and he's the DM for Dimension 20.
@willnelson99063 жыл бұрын
i still think brennan lee mulligan would make an awesome new CR guest, and they are gonna start a new campaign soon, so it'd be cool to see him, matt already played with brennan as a DM
@burntrosechick3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Just yes.
@quincybriley41133 жыл бұрын
I'm hopeful he'll show up on campaign 3 as a guest
@Elykmai3 жыл бұрын
murph as well would be fun considering he is also a good Dm and player
@Pixel112353 жыл бұрын
Wait new campaign soon? But I'm not done with the second one.
@quincybriley41133 жыл бұрын
@@Pixel11235 you've got 5 days. Thursday will likely be the epilogue to the campaign.
@Nat_the_Wizard3 жыл бұрын
The captioning on this is real good, top notch stuff and props to whomever did it. It's appreciated.
@kafnfriends3 жыл бұрын
the accidental synchronized leg cross at 0:40 was wonderful lol
@melonyb46593 жыл бұрын
Matt actually is wrong about the silver weapon thing, pit fiends have resistance to non magical weapons that are not silvered (as with most devils) so in this case it would do normal damage. But even if it was not a silvered weapon it would still do half damage as resistance is not immunity. :)
@JarLoz3 жыл бұрын
"Damage Resistances cold; bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing from nonmagical attacks that aren't silvered" Indeed.
@kylebeardsley62003 жыл бұрын
That actually ended up being one of their fan corrections that Mike read in a later episode.
@devilsadvocate63813 жыл бұрын
Yes because as we all know the classic weakness of a Devil is Silver. Can't Bellerive Matt was so moronic as to forget such a crucial detail...
@andrewsad13 жыл бұрын
I'm just happy I knew one thing that Matt Mercer didn't Helps distract me from the half dozen things he knew that I didn't
@LeBigsou3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I house rule silver weapons effective against a lot less stuff: Werepeople? Sure, Devils? Depend on CR, say what you want but a Pit Fiend should be able to tank a silvered mace better than a Nupperibo or a Barbed Devil and not every magical weapon works the same in my games. It's insane to me that Zariel or Orcus are affected evenly by a Holy Avenger and a +1 dagger. It's also a metter of balance for me. I'd much prefer my players to have a harder time against a devil or a demon the first time with shitty magic items and later cutting into multiples thanks to better abilities and gear. Sure you can simply up the monster hp but I think it's more satisfying for a player to go from : "your attacks bounce off the fiend skin, dealing pitful damage, it seems the power of the +1 greatsword isn't enough to properly handle this fight" to : " the Soul Calibur cuts deep in the flesh of the accursed, its radiant power unstoppable even in front of a demigod" but that's just me.
@vulcanyounot2 жыл бұрын
i come back every once and a while to rewatch this it always gives me so much joy
@andraspapp12843 жыл бұрын
It's my weirdest achievement in life that I was able to keep up with Matt on this one.
@game4win3 жыл бұрын
oh man the action rolled so awesome from one panel to the next! I see no mistakes! sounds like a great game!
@mistamemewide3 жыл бұрын
I just love that Brian, another great DM, witness the Majesty and Knowledge of Matthew Mercer.
@Meowmexs3 жыл бұрын
i loved watching him read off all the wrong things in the pages. i would of loved at the end him say " but in the end if everyone had fun playing, then there was 0 mistakes" i feel like alot more people need that in this game :)
@bryanchandler34862 жыл бұрын
@@bigwinz that turns more then to a question of what you find fun about DnD, something different people will have different answers for.
@LuisTeixeiraofficial2 жыл бұрын
@@bigwinz you must be fun to play with =) joking aside it's different for everybody and if the DM says it's possible in the context of the narrative then by god it is possible!
@KiraNightV2 жыл бұрын
@@bigwinz I feel the same way. Ignoring a rule isn't fun. Using a loophole or using the rules to do something crazy on the other hand is really fun for me.
@Stathio2 жыл бұрын
Honestly? While playing with the rules can be fun and create opportunities for strategy etc., if you're playing too hard with them, then it's weird that you'd choose to play a tabletop RPG in the first place? Like if the rules matter to you that much, why not play a traditional strategy board game or a videogame instead? The rules are hard-coded into those things, while the unique thing about a tabletop RPG is the ability to forego them in the name of fun and narrative. It's just such a backwards kinda perspective to approach this activity from if the rules are all you care about.
@ralek5922 жыл бұрын
@@Stathio But the realism
@eternalmiasma55863 жыл бұрын
This is frankly the most impressive thing I’ve ever seen
@verbalengine953 жыл бұрын
I have to tell my sister that this guy is a very well known voice actor so that she understands why I'm freaking out about him just also being really really well versed at D&D
@yumiendercat36853 жыл бұрын
As a fledgling DM, who doesn’t calculate everything perfectly, this helped me
@KazumiKiguma3 жыл бұрын
I feel like there were a few others that Matt didn't even mention. Like, how would the Pitt Fiend use both Hold Monster and its multiattack in the same turn? And how would the wizard use both Benign Transposition and cast Invisibility when they're both actions?
@paradoxxis86123 жыл бұрын
He missed a few that people have already pointed out in other comments. He also called the silvered weapon one wrong - pit fiends' weapon resistance is negated by silvered weapons.
@jonsimpson62403 жыл бұрын
@@paradoxxis8612 he could be mixed up with 3e or pathfinder as demons and devils had different ways to bypass their dr. Silver for one and cold iron for the other.
@jonsimpson62403 жыл бұрын
@@pozatat if we are being super generous, you can technically use benign transposition to cast invisibility if you package the invisibility spell in a contingency spell.
@edoherty90973 жыл бұрын
You know it's good when the explanation both impresses and makes you want to scream NEEEERRRSDDDS
@personman40113 жыл бұрын
Matt going, "Uh, next panel," basically showing that he's really the one running the show.
@andrewl91913 жыл бұрын
I feel like this clip was heavily edited, and he was just talking about his train of thought and not directing the show so much, but yeah. Boss.
@duckduckgooseberry70513 жыл бұрын
King of the nerds
@keyboundDragon2 жыл бұрын
This is why he's so good, he knows all the rules, he even found an extra mistake in the comic that wasn't even intended
@paradoxxis86122 жыл бұрын
No, he didn't. Devils are not immune to nonmagical weapons.
@gabrielbjornursidae9 ай бұрын
He doesn't know all the rules, as evident when Liam was casting slow and he thought that you couldn't designate targets.
@WardNightstone3 жыл бұрын
i still think he should have gotten 2 since he found a mistake that the fact-checkers missed
@neerGdyahS3 жыл бұрын
It was incorrect though. I'm not too sure why Brennan backed him on it. Easy to forget the specifics of those though since non magical weapons and silver weapons rarely come up at Pit Fiend level.
@neerGdyahS3 жыл бұрын
I will cut them the slack though, I mostly know this because I have way too much time on my hands, where they spend their time working and worldbuilding and having lives.
@g80gzt3 жыл бұрын
It's only Resistant to nonmagic BPS attacks with weapons that aren't silvered. It was silvered, so it bypasses its resistance. Also, it was a Resistance and not an Immunity.
@g80gzt3 жыл бұрын
@@neerGdyahS But you could literally just look at the relevant statblock information while creating the 'everything is wrong' comic.
@neerGdyahS3 жыл бұрын
@@g80gzt Plus what Devil is IMMUNE to nonmagic? Reasons I actually made comments about it instead of just letting it be.
@NeverUsable3 жыл бұрын
Rewatching this clip, the simultaneous leg cross from Amy and Matt is *just* perfect.
@zenodotus-xxiv7852 жыл бұрын
Loved Brennan in the corner presumably frantically checking over the rules
@cormacmccoy13 жыл бұрын
Murph: I think we all learnt something today Matt: Did we?
@thevoidlord17963 жыл бұрын
um actually, Pit Fiends are still affected normally by silvered weapons
@mrinfinity55572 ай бұрын
Some other mistakes missed that i noticed -legendary enemies can only use one legendary action a turn -a demi-lich cannot float 30 feet as a legendary action, they can only float half their movement speed (10 feet) -a demi-lich is immune to non-magical bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing damage -a demi-lich has too much hp to be killed from a sneak attack even with max damage and a melee weapon (its not stated that the rogue crit on the attack)
@annemichelle86603 жыл бұрын
I love the split second where you see that wild look in Matt’s eye when it’s his turn! (1:58)
@tylermcnamara24973 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t a lich’s phalactory have to be destroyed for it to be able to die
@adamkaris3 жыл бұрын
Nah it can still die, but the phylactery lets it reform a body for its soul.
@brotherofAnubus3 жыл бұрын
The physical form can be destroyed but the soul would go back to the phylactery. Perma-death requires the phylactery to be destroyed.
@fogiestooth46073 жыл бұрын
Thats a Demilich tho
@GirishManjunathMusic3 жыл бұрын
@@fogiestooth4607 demilich still has a phtlactery im pretty sure. Isn't that one of the ways to defeat the Tomb of Horrors is to find the phylactery and destroy it so the demilich, I forget the name, is cleansed or something?
@fogiestooth46073 жыл бұрын
@@GirishManjunathMusic Yeh, you right. Just doesn't state it in the statblock.
@Rangothemovie10 ай бұрын
For the record, pitt fiends aren’t immune to slashing from non magical weapons, they aren’t even resistant if the weapon is silvered, so he didn’t break the question or anything. Still super cool
@jasonandrews17703 жыл бұрын
2:38 im suprised nobody pointed out that the pit fiend shouldn't be able to use hold monster and its multi attack in the same turn. And the pit fiend is only ressistent to non magical weapons that arent silvered so the axe was fine
@Forslimjims3 жыл бұрын
Plus it's resistant not immune so either way attacking with an axe would be fine if not optimal.
@futuza3 жыл бұрын
I'm always careful to correct something like this because it's the DMs monster, not a player character so it might not necessarily have the same limits like being able to cast a spell and do multi-attack all at once. However, they did say don't assume any info is missing do you're probably safe to assume that's wrong as well.
@jasonandrews17703 жыл бұрын
@@futuza yeah i double checked the book after. What i stated is correct
@futuza3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonandrews1770 That's fine I wasn't disagreeing with you, but you kinda missed my point - monsters the DM uses are under no obligation to follow the Monster Manual stat blocks and assuming it is exactly like the monster manual, as a player, is usually a horrible mistake (except in cases like this video where we're told everything is standard 5E). It isn't against the rules for the DM to create custom monsters or deviate from the monster manual. In fact that's kind of expected. Hence why I would hesitate to call that out in a real game.
@jasonandrews17703 жыл бұрын
@@futuza no i got your point and i know you arnt disagreeing with me. If that were to happen in game id prob ask the dungeon master if he modded the monster because thats a signifficant change. Not something minor like it having an axe instad of a mace
@tomkvideo3 жыл бұрын
Matt's face at 0:34 is him mentally saying "I'm about to nerd out and be pedantic as fuuuuuuuuuuuck!" I love that guy.
@George_vv8 ай бұрын
I knew there was a reason I avoided watching Um, Actually and this really made it clear. This entire segment is pure gibberish to me. Sure, all apart I could deduce what any of these words mean but I have never heard any of these terms in the same sentence and this is just extremely overwhelming. I'm a little envious of anyone who knows what they're saying.
@TheDrexxus3 жыл бұрын
I'm shocked honestly that Matt didn't catch the fact the Pitt Fiend cannot use an action to cast Hold Monster and then use its action a second time to do a multiattack in the same turn.
@VivaLaDnDLogs2 жыл бұрын
He only had a minute, he circled 20 things.
@CloudburnGaming2 жыл бұрын
Also wouldn't Hold Monster not work on a goliath, shouldn't the Pit Fiend be using Hold Person?
@TheDrexxus2 жыл бұрын
@@CloudburnGaming Hold Monster will work on anything. It has no creature-type restrictions. Hold Person would ONLY work on humanoids. So the name can be a bit misleading. For players, its better to use Hold Person on humanoid targets because its a lower level spell slot to use than Hold Monster. However, Pit Fiends can cast Hold Monster 3 times per day and don't have access to Hold Person at all, so it doesn't matter to them. It would still work on the Goliath.
@CloudburnGaming2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDrexxus aight, thanks for the clarification
@KanuckStreams2 жыл бұрын
I also caught that, but I wasn't on a game show under any pressure.
@mannequin_A3 жыл бұрын
I get so confused about the logistics of D&D so whenever Matt talks about it on this show I’m just sitting here with math equations rapidly flying by my head thinking “Yeah… I know some of these words.”
@flyingturret208thecannon53 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry, the rules of D&D don’t really matter, as it doesn’t encompass every game, such as running a game with 12th level spells.
@daneroberts1996 Жыл бұрын
I watched this video last year when I was midway through campaign 1 of Critical Role, now I’m nearly halfway through campaign 2 and I’m so impressed by how many more I spotted!
@Grim_Sister3 жыл бұрын
Me, watching Matt nerd out about his favorite game: Look how happy he is!
@dialgasdreaded93673 жыл бұрын
host: "all right, matt. what did you find?" matt: "20 mistakes, one of which your question did not account for." everyone else: O-o
@SynchroFPS2 ай бұрын
I have never played DND before and I think it was hilarious how many I was able to guess.
@joelmattsson93533 жыл бұрын
Rules Prosecutor: "I count 28 rule violations!" Rules Defense Attorney: "Rule 0 supercedes all other rules, the only true rule violation is not accepting your DM's ruling."
@honorableintent3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: "attack of opportunity" is the 3.5e terminology, while the 5e version is referred to as an "opportunity attack".
@MrSeals10003 жыл бұрын
Ngl 3.5 rolls off the tongue so much better. 5e sounds like it's what the action is, and 3.5e sounds like what actually *doing* the action would be called
@thedepthandbreadthofseth2 ай бұрын
Brennan off screen as the question writer is an amazing historical moment. ❤❤
@shaurmiath6719 Жыл бұрын
Pit Fiends are actually immune to Nonmagical attacks that specifically aren't silvered, but I had to look that up. But also, Benign Transposition swaps the places of two creatures. It doesn't let you cast invisibility, and the Pit Fiend could not have cast a spell and multiattacked, and I think the (Demi)lich didn't have enough legendary actions to do both of those things, even on the players' turn. Really great work by Matt, though. It's awesome to see someone who knows the game so well.
@oOPPHOo Жыл бұрын
Not immune. Resistant. Their immunity only applies to fire and poison. A regular greataxe could indeed hurt a pitfiend. A magical greataxe is better, but a silvered one is just as effective. But yeah, my first intuition before looking it up was that the pit fiend would be resistant to any type of non-magical S/P/B damage regardless of it being silvered or not.
@shaurmiath6719 Жыл бұрын
@@oOPPHOoOop! You are correct. I meant to say that they are resistant, not immune, but I typed the wrong thing. In the spirit of Um, Actually, though, I was totally wrong. Great catch!
@oOPPHOo Жыл бұрын
@@shaurmiath6719 You're a good sport ^^
@Awenonian13 жыл бұрын
So I missed some, like the demilich being depicted wrong (marked those I didn't get until after the fact with a *, and iffy ones with a ~), but there were more than Matt found: 1. *Demilich is not full body 2. Dodge is not a reaction 3. Devil does not get an attack of opportunity 4. ~If using the dodge ACTION, would not be able to also attack --- Pit fiends are not resistant to silver weapons, Matt called this wrong. 5. Pit Fiend should already have rolled initiative 6. If the Pit fiend casts a spell, it cannot also attack 7. Gruumsh is not God of the Forge 8. Fireball is not second level 9. Fireball is not a cleric spell (but light clerics COULD have it, and there's no TECHNICAL reason why Omerek couldn't be a light cleric, though it would be odd worshiping Gruumsh OR the God of the Forge if you were) 10. Would almost certainly not destroy the pit fiend, who has around 300 health, and is immune to fire (there are ways to get around the immunity, but even so, fireball does like 48 damage max). 11. Benign Transposition does not allow casting of a spell, it switches people's positions 12. If you DID cast Invisibility, or use Benign Transposition, you would not be able to also drink a potion --- Why is she drinking a potion? She hasn't taken damage? 13. Howl is not affected by Invisibility 14. *Vile Curse is not a Charisma Save 15. *Vile Curse needs to target "one creature it can see", Una is Invisible 16. Demilich can't use Legendary Actions during ITS turn 17. Demilich can't use two Legendary Actions at once 18. *Vile Curse actually costs 3 actions, so it would also have already used all it's points 19. ~There's not much "final" about the legendary action. Legendary creatures actually get 3, so either it has one left (in the case that it used "a" legendary action on Vile Curse), or it already used it's last one, so "final" doesn't seem right. 20. Jump is not a Skill 21. Nat 30 isn't possible 22. There's no way Una can jump that high (height is based off of Strength Modifier, and you would need an excessively high one (maybe even impossibly high, without the Jump spell) to clear 30 feet) 23. Sneak Attack maybe shouldn't trigger. Though this requires some explanation a. Una should still be Invisible, so she has Advantage from Invisibility, which WOULD grant Sneak Attack. b. BUT, since she failed her save vs. Vile Curse, she has Disadvantage on all attacks, canceling the Advantage from Invisibility, and negating Sneak Attack c. BUT, since Vile Curse couldn't target her, maybe she's unaffected, and would have Advantage from Sneak Attack? d. BUT, if the Howl worked (since it shouldn't miss because of Invisibility), Una should be either at 0 hit points, or Frightened, which would grant Disadvantage, and so cancel Sneak Attack anyway (Though this would add another mistake: Frightened creatures cannot approach the source of their fear, so Una can't get close to attack it in the first place) 24. Turn Undead isn't a bonus action 25. Turn Undead is a Cleric feature, not a rogue feature 26. At low levels of Cleric (0 is low), and for high levels of enemy, Turn Undead only Turns, it does not Destroy. This may count as 2 (Una doesn't have the "Destroy Undead" Feature, AND the Demilich is too high level for it) Anything I missed?
@spikey8323 жыл бұрын
I have maybe a few o7 Firstly, just wanted to let you know, Demiliches have truesight, which allows it to see invisible creatures, so Una would have been an eligible target for Vile Curse if she was in range, and in addition (depending on how you interpret truesight vs invisibility), Una would not have had advantage for sneak attack from being invisible, but you already got the point about Vile Curse giving her disadvantage anyway! -Demiliches have Turn Immunity, so would be immune to turn undead anyway regardless of level. -Demiliches flight LA allow it to move up to half its fly speed, so it would only be able to fly 15 ft. (30/2) instead of the 30 ft. it flew. Some iffy ones now which are really pedantic ^^' -We don't know the fighter level, but the others have benign transposition and fireball, so likely 5th+, the fighter could have extra attack, and they made the point to name every attack the pit fiend made but only mention the fighter making one attack. -In the art, the cleric is shown being prone on the ground after getting hit by the pit fiend, but none of the fiend's attack knock a target prone -The cleric is depicted as holding a book, which you could argue is not a holy symbol (amulet, emblem or reliquary), so would not fulfil the material component of fireball. -In the same vein, the wizard is shown casting invisibility at range without the material component That's all the other ones I got :)
@Ramschat3 жыл бұрын
Una is a halfling with 25 feet movement, which also limits maximum jump distance to 25 feet regardless of strength
@evannibbe93753 жыл бұрын
Fireball is also on the Forge Cleric spell list.
@ryonalionthunder3 жыл бұрын
15. *Vile Curse needs to target "one creature it can see", Una is Invisible Demilich has TrueSight:120, it would be able to see her even when invisible.
@davidainsworth66853 жыл бұрын
Howl targets all creatures within 30 feet of the Demilich that can hear it, so the entire party is effected, as is the Pit Fiend.
@tonytrig342 жыл бұрын
Murph's humble "He's good" bounces around in my brain like a dvd screensaver logo
@lol101lol101lol101992 жыл бұрын
I've literally never played a tabletop RPG, and even I caught some of these. Like Fireball probably not being a Cleric spell (guessing Wizard) and natural 30 being too high ("natural 20" being one of the most common D&D references, right up there with "roll for initiative").
@quincyhotchkiss47753 жыл бұрын
Matt missed benign transportation. It does not allow you to cast spells it allows you to swap places with a willing creature
@jasonhale88362 жыл бұрын
The level of excitement on Matt's face when the rules are being explained is just something else.
@321apocalyps3 жыл бұрын
One thing even Matt seemed to miss: Um actually, Benign Transposition is a form of teleportation and had no relevance in the Elf casting Invisibility, unless she needed to close the gap to cast invisibility. But even then both Benign Transposition and Invisibility are both Actions.
@adoragrayskull Жыл бұрын
Also: Um, actually, shouldn't it have been hold person instead of hold monster?
@Lostpure Жыл бұрын
@@adoragrayskull Hold monster works on everything, hold person only works on humanoids
@DevilboyScooby2 жыл бұрын
Would've been interesting to see the mistakes the other two caught, and then going to Matt for what they missed.
@AshleyLaRicci8 ай бұрын
Whats even better is Matt knowing all the rules but he is also a huge fan of the rule of cool
@wearethebomb423 жыл бұрын
I'm going to be "that guy" and add a few more mistakes: dodging is an action, not a reaction, benign transposition and invisibility are two separate spells, so you can't "use one" to cast another, invisibility has the range of touch so the picture is wrong, vile curse can only be used against creatures you can *see* (but demilichs have truesight so nevermind), but vile curse also takes up all 3 legendary actions so there's not enough to also fly, also also a demilich can only move 15 feet (half its movement speed) with its legendary action, you actually can roll athletics to jump higher than you normally could in a round, but it would still cost 30 feet of movement and halflings only have 25 unless they dash.
@adrenalineunlimited33762 жыл бұрын
Also benign transposition is a feature, not a spell
@mateobarrett68292 жыл бұрын
Also Pit Fiends have 4 attacks, not 3. I don't think anyone caught that
@tylerkeating16992 жыл бұрын
Additionally, a creature can only use one of its legendary actions per player turn I'm pretty sure, so even if vile curse was not all 3 actions the demilich still could not use its legendary action to move.
@blacksnow71062 жыл бұрын
@@mateobarrett6829 isn't **technically** a monster can decide to use fewer attacks?
@thenagazai2 жыл бұрын
@@mateobarrett6829 and he also uses a spell, and even if it was due to legendary actions, even the 4 attacks, it's his turn so he can't do it right now, so he would only do 3 attacks or a spell, and more after his turn ends.
@robertstegmann92603 жыл бұрын
Also something other people didn't notice: Dodge would reduce the likelyhood an attack of opportunity, but not make sure they avoid it. The proper action would be disengage.
@doopdacoop40543 жыл бұрын
The pit fiend attacked and missed, therefore the question did account for the dodge action and not the disengage action where the pit fiend wouldn’t have gotten an attack to begin with.
@cartergreen23093 жыл бұрын
You're kinda of right but the main thing there is that dodge isnt a reaction it's an action
@TheSuperSpud2 жыл бұрын
I love how as soon as Matt hears the challenge he's just sitting there, giddy
@WillTBear12 жыл бұрын
There's also: -Multiple accounts of abilities/attacks taking up multiple actions in a single turn (the pit fiend attacking and using a spell and the wizard casting 2 spells and drinking a potion) -Vile Curse takes all 3 legendary actions so the lich wouldn't have the actions to then fly straight up -the flight legendary action moves only half of the lich's flying speed, so 15ft -MORADIN FUCKING HATES YOU FOR CONFUSING HIM WITH GRUMMSH! -Begnign transposition only lets you trade places with someone else who's willing -invisibility spell range is touch I'm sure there are more...
@JimCullen Жыл бұрын
- no such thing as an "attack of opportunity" in 5e. It's an "opportunity attack"