Matt Slick vs Jesse Morrell | The Great Calvinism Debate | Free Will vs Election | CARM

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[@tessw9744]

Jesse, you crushed it , brother! I don't care how many degrees one has from -cemetery- , I mean Seminary, NO ONE teaches better than the Holy Spirit.

[@tessw9744]

And it looks like Matt got angry that folks were saying "amen" while you were talking, he started admonishing the audience. ..lol pointing at them and saying *"wise up"* ......lol goodness gracious....the pride! And for someone who doesn't believe in works as being important for salvation, he sure does spend a lot of time telling everyone what he's done for the kingdom.

[@cmdaniels1986]

Of course.... if one dies believing the gospel of Jesse Morrell, they are not saved.

[@dvs7440]

@@cmdaniels1986 --The fact that you thought and were able to refute her comment, is prove in itself that have the freedom to agree or disagree.

[@Xarai]

lol they both quoted the bible this wasnt a debate XD it was 2 morons quoting a bullshit book

[@allglorytomylordandgodjesu5807]

Xarai I’m sad that you know not what you say sinners devils in you the devils are playing around with your mind in actual reality your the moron.

[@robertscalio8863]

Once Jesus forgives us....He then commands us, to "Go and Sin No More". The Holy Spirit convicts us, to sin no more. He that endures to the end, shall be saved. Jesus lives in our hearts, we know right, from wrong. If you are still sinning...STOP IT !!!

[@weeklybiblestudy777]

With all due respect how is this going for you so far? Do you ever go a day, Month, year without sinning?

[@bryanlovesjesus2204]

@@weeklybiblestudy777 you can’t use your experience to overplay the Bible. Bible clearly says.. Go and Sin no more

[@jeremynethercutt206]

Sure does and NOT ONE OF US WILL, Not perfectly not like we were commanded we will still fall short no matter what: that’s a promise, we cannot live to Gods demands HOLY RIGHTEOUS Perfect, we can’t. The spirit within WILL LEAS US GUIDE US COMFORT CONVICT AND WE ARE Completely BORN FROM SBOVE A NEW BIRTH, is the only way this will happen: Matt’s scripture view is correct that is exactly what GOD HAS SAID . His arguments and camp is the true God of scripture im and that is who saved my life PRAISE GOD! All glory to GOD! Not man, the other side takes their own credit and doesn’t have an all powerful God; it’s not the God of the Bible it’s twisted to human power unfortunately, to where they can have a part or power and that’s not God said he is savior and there is no other, he draws men gives them to the son, son loses none , we hear his voice we know him and we know the difference . GOD bless , may eyes be opened and ears hesr the truth through the gospel of Jesus Christ, I would reccomend tk read the gospel of John and Romans, and 1,2 Corinthians and Galatians first and foremost Then when we think your saved read the book of John and the remaining Gospels with it. If you ever doubt the sovereignty of God read the OT. He is always in control he is our soverign YAWEH AND DOES AS HE WISHES

[@GatheringJacob]

When you consider each God described by each man, they are so different that they.can not possibly be the same! That is why this debate is so crucial!!

[@mathgod]

Two smart dudes...surprising neither realizes that there is no logical evidence for god.

[@GatheringJacob]

@@mathgod “no evidence for God” ??? The whole world and every little detail has intellectual design to it! That alone screams proof of a creator! You sir sadly are deceived! Please rethink your post for your own eternities sake!

[@Yoctopory]

@@GatheringJacob If you refer to the watchmaker argument: Design is not recognised by complexity, but by comparison to things we know have been designed. So no, the world around us is not evidence for a creator.

[@JMUDoc]

@@GatheringJacob "The whole world and every little detail has intellectual design to it!" Please explain how you would differentiate between a designed thing and a non-designed thing.

[@sheilasmith7779]

Yes John, if we understand God incorrectly, then we would understand humans incorrectly. Read Genesis carefully.

[@seanchaney3086]

"I'm not saying you don't have free will....."....*goes on to say you don't have free will.* Calvinists don't want to take accountability for how sick their views really are. They say "reformed theology" like most Protestants believe and most Reformers taught Calvinism. This is false witness.

[@JMUDoc]

Question - is the anybody who accepts the doctrine of election but does *not* also believe themselves the *be* elect? If not, that's very telling.

[@sheilasmith7779]

An uneducated man won the debate against a " scholar." Truth always prevails. Well done Jesse.

[@sheilasmith7779]

If God created free will, how does that exclude God, Matt? For someone who claims to be a scholar, he certainly missed logic 101.

[@barberpianoserv]

Jesse Morrell won this hands down, probably because the scripture hardly ceased to flow from his lips.

[@luisgonzales7730]

We went through a very sad destructive transition at the church. To the point of losing the most dedicated families in the church. The leadership was introducing the reform doctrine in to the church. I started to see brother Jesse since then. It is being a blessing to my life, I wish he would translate his books in Spanish.

[@MarkusGhambari]

Matt Slick has nothing but emotional appeals.

[@Hebrew42Day]

Markus Ghambari it's what every calvinist does. They use false dichotomies to distract from the truth. Their theology is not based on the Bible.

[@dvs7440]

swelling words of emptiness, basically implying God made us filthy sinners who can not obey him no matter what because we have a magically "substance" called sin in our flesh.

[@theministryoftheholyspirit5330]

Beautiful... Nailed it Jesse....

[@CryAloudMinistries]

In reading Matt Slick's article on this debate, he said that there was no cross examination. He said, "No Cross Examination, No Winner". What are your thoughts brother Jesse, I think you won this debate hands down.

[@bibletheology]

I wish there had been a cross examination too. If Matt felt that he had done better and had won the debate, he wouldn't be saying"No cross examination, No winner." At least he is not saying that he won.

[@TheologyStuff]

The moment a man must rely on his own logic he violates Gods commandment to never lean on his own understanding thank you brother morrell i've seen many of these debates that go nowhere because the word of God isn't the primary focus but you stood strong against this false theology and kept it precept upon precept God bless you

[@Hebrew42Day]

Being obedient to God, is _leaning_ on God instead of yourself. the Greek for Obey means to "be under what you've heard."

[@swordtraining]

Bro, you ripped Calvinism apart. This was impressive! Amen!

[@sheilasmith7779]

The real danger of Calvinism is it has led Christians to leave the faith. It's a hopeless position because you were either assigned salvation or damnation, and you you have no way of knowing which group you are in.

[@pitbullfarmer34]

Right on Jesse. Just watching that other gentleman, I can see the ignorance as he mouths things and constantly gives facial expressions. That speaks for itself

[@undergroundpublishing]

It's so normal for Calvinists to rattle off ten scriptures at once so you don't have time to see that they are all out of context.

[@francisagyinasare8079]

Jesse totally DESTROYED Matt! Great debate!

[@simplyawsome918]

God bless you brother Jesse! Keep preaching the Truth! Let the Holy Spirit speak against these blasphemers!

[@sheilasmith7779]

I don't know what Matt has but it is not autism. Bunk. It's my field. So no, not autism.

[@rosstemple7617]

Calvinist bump into the door jam. Then forbid others from entering in. I’ve personally experienced someone committing suicide because of this hellish doctrine. Rev 22: 14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

[@rosstemple7617]

PS Calvinist was a murderer

[@TFOURIE]

Dear Ross. My sincere condolensces about the person who took his own life. I fully agree with you: Calvinism is a doctrine directly from the pit of hell. May Christ Jesus bless you and keep you safe.

[@user-er5qd7su5m]

Yes thanks Jesse. Only Jesse.

[@jesseaaronx]

Wheewww! Praise God for this debate!

[@dralgarza]

This is how ignorant Matt Slick is of the Greek. John 1:12 aorist active indicative of lambanō “...as many as did receive him,” past tense. "To them" (autois). Dative case explanatory of the relative clause preceding. When they "choose" Messiah THEN they were given the right to be a child of God. Not by the will of man is in the context of, we cannot make ourselves a child of God without first receiving Yeshua-Jesus. Can the word "Lambano" mean "choose"? Just look at Thayer's choices for translation. 1e) to take, to choose, select, get, obtain. 1) to take 1a) to take with the hand, lay hold of, any person or thing in order to use it 1a1) to take up a thing to be carried 1a2) to take upon one’s self 1c) to take what is one’s own, to take to one’s self, to make one’s own 1c1) to claim, procure, for one’s self 1c2) of that which when taken is not let go, to seize, to lay hold of, apprehend 1 1c4) to take to one’s self, lay hold upon, take possession of, i.e. to appropriate to one’s self 1d2) to receive what is offered 1d3) not to refuse or reject 1d4) to receive a person, give him access to one’s self 1d4a) to regard any one’s power, rank, external circumstances, and on that account to do some injustice or neglect something

[@gunngrease9810]

Poor Matt is receiving the strong delusion.

[@tessalyyvuo1667]

Anyone else here because Matt Dillahunty said this is his favorite debate he has watched?

[@jgunn03]

Just listened to his debate (Dillahunty Vs. Slick: Is Secular Humanism Superior to Christianity). Brought here because Dillahunty said it was one of his fave debates.

[@angelslayer169]

Yep 😂😂

[@bigdogboos1]

Dude, Jesse's opening statement was one of the best i've ever heard. calvinism is laughable. However, the disgustingly unkind tone the people asking questions aimed towards Slick was nauseating. I would never want to go to that church if they can't ask a brother in Christ questions without accusing him of heresy, sin, etc. what is wrong with those people that they can't ask a simple question without bursting into anger???

[@crucifiedwithchrist9367]

In my personal experience those who reject calvinism are very hostile towards those who hold to it, especially here on youtube. I have not noticed the inverse as often or to the same degree.

[@VictorFelipe82]

@@crucifiedwithchrist9367 I've noticed otherwise.

[@eiontactics9056]

@Crucified with Christ No, it is the Calvinists who become prideful and rude. Bible Believeing Christians do, however , get frustrated and disgusted with Calvinism. It is the doctrine of the devil, and it perverts God, Jesus, and the Gospel. Imagine a Muslim going to your church calling himself a Christian, then teaching your kids Islam behind the scenes. It is the same with Calvinism. It is a whole different religion. It is Manichaean Gnosticism that has been "Christianized."

[@terryglovier5803]

Matt slick was condescending to the audience at about 50-55 min in so that may have prompted those questions.

[@4godisholy]

@@crucifiedwithchrist9367 My experience has been exactly the opposite. The arrogance and condescending tone is disgusting. That being said, I have seen some interactions from my side that made me sick. I think probably there are sinners on both sides...

[@roseannemaye9263]

Acts 4:13 13 Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.

[@jwjbros7926]

Thanks you Jesse for preaching the truth!

[@enonknives5449]

"Elect" and "chosen" are never used in regard to salvation, they are used in regard to service. God chose Paul to preach the gospel to the Gentiles. Paul was saved. God chose Nebuchadnezzar to punish Israel for their disobedience. Nebuchadnezzar was not saved. The saved are chosen to share the gospel. Jesus chose the apostles to preach to Israel during His ministry...including Judas. Judas rejected the Jesus who chose him, but the other apostles didn't. Ultimately, the Bible tells us that faith comes by hearing, not by God's choice. Those who believe and disbelieve both hear the same gospel. Unconditional election is a lie because the Bible TELLS us the condition: Confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead and you will be saved. It doesn't say that when you are saved you will begin to believe. If God tells us the truth, and we believe it, how does that diminish God? Matt Slick doesn't even live up to his own name. His arguments are ridiculous. The problem with this debate is that Jesse Morrell holds some wrong views, too. A person who is saved by Jesus can't lose their salvation because they are sealed by the Holy Spirit. He is the guarantee of our future inheritance. Eternal life is God's promise to God on our behalf. We can't break the promise because we weren't involved in making the promise.

[@adamcarpenter1869]

2 Thessalonians 2:13

[@enonknives5449]

@@adamcarpenter1869 -- I stand corrected.

[@evanu6579]

@@enonknives5449 Don’t let 2The 2:13 cause you to believe Calvinism. It doesn’t support their doctrine. God bless.

[@enonknives5449]

@@evanu6579 -- Don't worry, I will never believe Calvinism. All I did was admit that I was in error to say that the bible never used "chosen" in regard to salvation. It does in 2 Thessalonians 2:13, but you are correct that it doesn't support Calvinism. First, the context of the verse was contrasting believers with those who would believe the lies of Satan in the end times. Second, the "beginning" Paul mentions is the beginning of His gospel ministry to them -- when they believed -- and not "before the foundation of the world" as Calvinists always lie about. God chose them for salvation because they believed the gospel message Paul preached and confessed Jesus as Lord -- not before they heard it.

[@ANTHONYZIKO1]

Awesome job Calvinism is clearly false

[@joyhancock8596]

Great job Jesse! He really went off topic to attack you. In claiming to be the biggest sinner he knows presently - he is admitting that sin has hardened him (not humbled him as they think). Hebrews 3:13

[@Ephesians-rz7zp]

Matt was right when you start with a man’s free will as your starting point it leads to errors in theology. The Bible is all about the glorification of God not man.

[@craigknudtson2667]

REALLY enjoyed Jesse! Very refreshing!

[@jimgarrett7078]

It’s obvious that Mr. Slick did not or chose not to debate the history of the early church fathers - up to 300 AD. He did not speak of Augustine nor did he quote, as Jesse did, from the Augustinian reformers. Yet he told Jesse he did not understand Calvinism. Then when Jesse would articulate what everyone understands Calvinism to be, Mr. Slick would give exasperated and condescending facial expressions. This was not only pride and arrogance, but disrespect. Then to admonish the group sitting and watching. This is how you lose without trying. Furthermore; Jesse never implied that anyone who believes in free will would somehow brag to God about it on the day we meet Him. Free will does not necessitate lack of humility and or reverence. I think a true child of God will have a deep abiding reverence for the Lord and I also believe the Lord will commend by telling us, you chose well. Excellent work Jesse, especially for a former high school drop out crack head on his way to do 5 to 10 in the poky that never attended college. You more than held your on.

[@5mjc]

God commands us to pray.

[@rickh4667]

Matt slick has a lot of pride. A typical attribute that people have who are well learned with mans theology and philosophy. Ever learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth.

[@cmdaniels1986]

You do realize that Jesse Morrell claims to be sinless.... yet you call Matt Slick prideful... lol

[@rickh4667]

Chad Daniels big difference between living a sinless life and having pride. We are told to live a sinless life all through the scriptures. Christ died for this purpose. There is also a difference between living a sinless life and failing at times, compared to believing you can never live a sinless life. Head knowledge alone and vain Philosophy is not of Christ, but "living" a life as Christ lived is the real truth.

[@Hebrew42Day]

It is possible to live sinless @chad daniels, not only is it possible, it's a requirement of _receiving_ salvation on judgement. [2Th 1:8 KJV] 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

[@cmdaniels1986]

"not only is it possible, it's a requirement of receiving salvation on judgement." Got it... so God does not justify the ungodly through faith (Romans 4:5) but final judgement depends entirely on mans personal righteousness and perfect obedience to the law of Christ? You are preaching another gospel. When you stand before God on judgement day clothed in your own righteousness instead of the righteousness of Christ, you will be sent to hell.

[@rickh4667]

Chad Daniels there are 2 distinctions here there are (1) The ungodly (2) the Godly. God is the saviour of all who come to Him through Christ. If you are living a life of Christ you are in the second category. If you live a life of worldly lusts and vain glory in this life without devoting yourself to God you are in the first category. Yes Christ did die for the ungodly this is true, but they are not to continue being ungodly or they make Christ's salvation of no effect. Gods grace of salvation is for all. But the clear and ever present distinction is that the all listen, act upon the gift, and give thanks to the Lord, living a life of faithful works. The faithful works are the fruit of the Spirit. This is the meat of what our life should be not living the milk basic tenants which cause contention.

[@kristinamartz348]

Both were very good. But I have to say it was quite rude how Smith spoke of false witness in the wrong context and also to try to save his credibility named his creditials of 25 years of "theological study" the issue here is that he was claiming Jesse had a man centered teaching when clearly he is filled by the SPIRIT and Spirit has taught him and he truly won this debate. But this is great because we need edification and correction. I truly appreciate how there were so many scriptural referances to back up each opinion. The so called Reformed Calvanist needs to admit that if it needed Reformed they obviously relized there was fault in it. Just lay ot down COMPLETELY. And don't be apart of any sect. The LORD is coming for ONE BODY. ONE CHURCH. the Messianic Community the Believers in CHRIST who are born again who all have the HOLY SPIRIT Who are of ONE MIND because we have ONE SPIRIT. We are to be United not divided. Smith keeps attackimg Morell and saying he doesn't understand. Then compliments himself sayimg he is honorable and must defend his reputation. He has utterly shown his hearts condition and he should humble himself and if he decides to debate again should do so wothout personally attacking the other participants character after each segment that he clearly sees he just got owned on. He should give glory to God that he was corrected on some things. You can clearly see him change some of his views after Jesse shares the correct context. I pray that all men everywhere come to REPENTANCE and is born again. And that those who are false converts learn the truth and recieve the baptism of the Spirit. I pray a revival sweeps around the world and that a great move of the spirit is poured out and that Many come to Salvation. Let us fill oir lamps with Oil. And be prepared. Let us turn away from Sin and choose Life. It is not by our self but by His Spirit in us that we can overcome temptation. You can lose your Salvation Do Not be Decieved! We have to be filled with the Spirit and Walk by the Spirit! To pick up our cross daily is a daily walk with Christ to deny the FLESH.. And to instead abide in Christ. Just as Jesus said He is in the Father and the Father in Him. By our free will when we are born again we are a NEW creature we are able to walk in Holiness. That is the straight and narrow path that Jesus tells us to take out of our free will. Smith is wrong to say otherwise he is leading people to take the wide path that leads to destruction that the LORD warns MANY take.. Also do not forget it is believers who will judged. In John chapter 3 we see that theones who deny Jesus Christ is the Son of GOD they have been judged ALREADY.. PLEASE CONSIDER ALL SCRIPTURE DO NOT CHERRY PICK THE WORD IS ALIVE AND INTERPRETS ITSELF. Do not trust mans theology. Trust the HOLY SPIRIT to teach you just as Jesse Morrell has been taught. GOD bless you..

[@rosstemple7617]

Kristina Martz 👍 Jesus Christ Himself had to make a choice in the Garden, shows a choice. Our self will or God’s will. Rev 22: 14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. Calvinist bump their heads on the doorway. 😂

[@biblebullies9668]

This crowd is really sickening. I can’t believe people so proudly proclaim that they are perfect and sinless. Unbelievable.

[@joeshmoe7276]

I like the fat ladies pretending to be sinless. Pretty sure they are gluttons

[@Jason-kx3cd]

Matt slick is arrogant. He loves the sound of his own voice. Calvinism is unbiblical.

[@ThisIsGonnaBFine]

The Crowd should maybe "behave" better; but, the TRUTH is simple; when calvinism is unveiled(as Jesse Morell so brilliantly does), people see the extreme fallacy of it and it brings a Righteous Anger.

[@sa-oz8gu]

Is it a sin to be sickening? Ok then why are you condemning her sin if the fat lady can’t get skinny? hahahahaha

[@Thadd1962]

Matt Slick protests misrepresentation, but he practices this hypocritically. Calvinism blatantly twists terms and phrases to shoehorn pagan Gnosticism and Stoicism.

[@tommysuriel]

Jesse won, the only point i disagree with him is that you can lose your salvation and that we are literally able to completely stop sinning.

[@Hebrew42Day]

I want to clarify something - no Christian alive or dead has received Salvation. It's a future state at the day of Christ's return. [Rom 13:11 NKJV] 11 And [do] this, knowing the time, that now [it is] high time to awake out of sleep; for now our salvation [is] nearer than when we [first] believed. If salvation is _near_, it's not yet *arrived*. [2Co 7:10 NKJV] 10 For godly sorrow produces repentance [leading] to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death. our _repentance_ for sins, *leads* to Salvation. [Phl 2:12 NKJV] 12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; work _out _*_YOUR OWN_*_ salvation_ through fear and trembling. [Tit 2:11 NKJV] 11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, How do we receive Grace? James 4:6-10 - Humble *YOURSELF*, God gives grace to the Humble, and will only bring salvation to the humble. [Heb 1:14 NKJV] 14 Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister for those who will inherit salvation? We have not yet received the inheritance, and if you sin you will not inherit the Kingdom of God. (Galatians 5:21) [Heb 5:9 NKJV] 9 And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him, Obedience is crucial to receiving our future inheritance of eternal salvation. (2 Thess 1:8) [1Pe 1:5, 9 NKJV] 5 who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. ... 9 receiving the end of your faith--the salvation of [your] souls. We will receive the end of our obedience and faith, the salvation of our souls at the last day. [Rev 12:10 NKJV] 10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. *NOW* salvation has come, when Christ has come.

[@cmdaniels1986]

So you admit that you are not saved?

[@rosstemple7617]

Elwood M. Buel sodzo is an active particle. So it is a continuous saving. God has saved, will save and is saving. Ain’t God great! But no there’s no one time saving. That’s the canker spoken of in the Bible. Salvation is from our own flesh.

[@gracegeek4678]

the editing cuts seem like there was maybe some things said that we were'nt supposed to see/hear...?.....

[@joenava2251]

Jesse's argument is more elaborated won the debate, the old man uses the young ignorant man card when he ran out of points

[@Xarai]

he quoted a the bible....slick...quoted the bible theres literally no difference

[@TheRaycruz88]

You can clearly tell the difference when one allows the Holy Spirit to guide them and be their teacher and when one allows bible school to teach them 🤦‍♂️ CAN SOMEONE SHOW ME WHERE IT SAYS IN THE BIBLE TO BE A CALVANIST???

[@rosstemple7617]

Ray Cruz 😝👍

[@lorgaraurelian4076]

I cannot show you where it says to be a calvinist, I can show you where it says to be Christian, to deny your flesh and take up your cross daily, have faith in the complete work of Christ, and to follow the teachings of Christ and His disciples+apostles.

[@BRL1611]

Jesse's argument is better.

[@tybeeislandgoat1402]

Two delusional people don't make a person that can see straight.

[@sheilasmith7779]

Do I take credit for my beautiful blue eyes? No Do I take credit for my free will? No. God gave both, my eye color and my free will to me. What I DO with both is not determined by God......obviously because that is not what God created.

[@roseannemaye9263]

I noticed in these debates that the calvinists often contort their face into mocking, sarcastic, condescending, arrogant expressions. Immature.

[@publicproclaimer9724]

I love the intro pictures segment hahaha

[@dvs7440]

It's sad how in the bible, it Adam and Eve literally ate from the tree called "The Tree Of The Knowledge Of Good And Evil" therefore they were giving the knowledge to know "good and evil" because before they disobeyed God, all that they did was good. People still denying they aren't responsible for their actions, smh.

[@coreylapinas1000]

It's mysterious exactly what the fruit did to humanity, but the devil was a good creature too. Are you going to say his rebellion wasn't his own fault too?

[@thelordwillprovide911]

In question 2:27:41 Matt Slick is pretty slick but I noticed how he just called himself an unbeliever.. the questions was Man cannot or the inability to obey God Matt says “the unbeliever” cannot obey God when we sin we disobey God so according to his words his an unbeliever.. because he cannot stop sinning..

[@signpreach]

Not very good audio.

[@ryanwall5760]

“We do not teach that God forces someone to believe against their will.” If man cannot repent unless God changes their heart. God IRRESISTIBLY changes their heart into faith. You may not like it but you certainly teach it.

[@josiahgil]

Matt slick kept saying that he questioned your salvation, and he said that you believe you are saved your own works. he kept painting it unfairly. you actually said that you have to meet half way, and that God offers us opportunities.

[@danielsloss9265]

I'm resting in Christ you self righteous idiots prepare for hell.

[@SSGwattedge]

@@danielsloss9265 maybe tead the Bible again.. Jesus said if you call someone "fool" your in danger of hell fire..

[@rosstemple7617]

Omgosh people. Selfishness was given for self reflection in light of God. Sheesh

[@artbyrobot1]

@@SSGwattedge Actually, calling someone fool doesn't say you are heading for hell fire, only in danger of it. This reads for me that we should not say it lightly as it is a dangerous thing to say and that we should be sure it applies - not that we utterly cannot say it. After all, the Bible says that the fool says in his heart there is no God. To quote this passage to someone who says the same and in so doing call them a fool is to reprove them by the Word - so would you say that such a reproof causes one to be in danger of hell fire? Certainly not. So really, you are just to choose when to say it wisely is all. The word fool is not being forbidden utterly, only advised to be said with prudence.

[@josiahgil]

@@artbyrobot1The bible says there remains no more sacrifice for wilful sins. If someone escapes the pollutions of sin, and return to wallowing in the mire, they are liek a prodigal that escaped the mire, and returned to it. God grace to has to harmonize with the sacrifice, if there remains no more sacrifice, how can God's grace harmonize with a non existent sacrifice? being a christian sinner is one thing, we decieve our selves if we claim to not have sin, yet a christian does not have wilful sin, if they did, they have fallen from saving grace, that keeps us saved, and have gone back to condemnation, and the spirit of grace can woo them , but the saving grace only keeps those who remain under covered sins, not wilful sins, which there is no sacrifice for, and thus the saving grace cannot harmonize and keep those who fallen away into a non-existent sacrifice. that is falling from saving grace that keeps those in the sacrifice, and returning to the wooing grace which is calling those who have sins not covered by the sacrifice.

[@deveritateapologeticsandph4908]

Is there any way to obtain this entire debate in real time without the constant splicing from the editing and which allows one to hear what Slick is saying without constantly having to turn the volume up and down?

[@artbyrobot1]

If I no longer live but Christ lives in me, then how can it be my own self-righteous goodness that establishes obedience? It is Christ in me and through me that obeys Himself through my life day by day. This is why I don't sin - Christ obeys Himself as I yield to His power working through me. The Calvinist position that this means I trust in myself and my own goodness is then a fallacy since I am dead and cannot trust in my dead self but rather trust in the only one living in me.

[@donthephoneman7084]

I truly enjoyed listening to this debate . Both sides had good points. But I do believe that Matt slick was correct. The scripture that really opened my eyes is Ephesians 2:8-9. Christ did the work. His righteousness was given to those who believe. I could never have saved myself. To GOD alone be the glory.! Praise YAHWEH.

[@coryalbright9798]

Faith isn't you saving yourself. It's the access point to saving grace.

[@donthephoneman7084]

@@coryalbright9798 john 1:13-14 . But as many as received Him, to them gave He the power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name. WHICH WERE BORN, NOT OF BLOOD,NOR OF THE WILL OF THE FLESH,NOR OF THE WILL OF MAN, BUT OF GOD. Salvation is of the LORD. Too GOD only be the glory. HALLELUYAH!

[@coryalbright9798]

@@donthephoneman7084 amen. Salvation is by grace through faith.

[@donthephoneman7084]

@@coryalbright9798 amen , and that not of ourselves, it is the gift of God. Not of works lest anyone should boast.

[@coryalbright9798]

@donthephoneman7084 yes, salvation is all of God. He ordained faith as the access point to saving grace.

[@matcomb7501]

So why does God sit back, and watch us all struggle with working out, what his supposed Word is saying?

[@tessalyyvuo1667]

Good question.

[@artbyrobot1]

Why does God let us struggle in general?: He wants us to learn by experience in a meaningful and profound way that good trumps evil, God's ways are in fact superior to our own, that light is greater than darkness, and that the wages of sin are death. We each learn this first hand and come out the better for it once we are given eyes to see. We then cleave to Him harder than had we never known any other option and never attempted going our own way. Otherwise, we may always wonder if we could do it better than He and if going our own way would be a better option. We get to try that now, see the folly of it, and then faithfully trust Him instead of ourself going forward after that point. Edit: after re-reading the question more carefully, I see my answer was moreso pointed to "Why does God sit back and let us struggle" To answer the original question more properly, God allows us to struggle to work out what His Word is saying because in that struggle, we get to know Him more, we are supposed to seek His guidance when we read to deepen our understanding rather than resting on what we've been taught by some man who came before us - like Calvin, and we are also supposed to have the Bible unravel in meaning to us OVER TIME - this incentivizes continued reading of it - otherwise, if it were laid out so clear and simple that a first time read through would reveal all there is, then we would be justified in just a reading or two then moving on. But it is a deep and living Word that can be taken in many directions according to our lense with which we view it as this debates illustrates. Also, consider that the Bible is written in such a way that heresies can be developed from it to justify false teachings and even justify sin in some cases. This is God's way of exposing who is approved and who is not. 1 Cor 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. -- so the Bible is written in such a way as to expose the heretics as they are able to run with the Bible in the wrong direction and fall into gross error like Matt does here.

[@grantstidham9322]

God’s Word is clear. The devil is the one who confuses

[@bobbyfischersays1262]

It's almost like He wants us to think.

[@Nicolae_Mew]

Did they run out of adult-size chairs for this debate?

[@bonniejohnson1518]

concerning Cornelius. He was obeying God according to the knowledge that he had. That's all that God require from anyone. AND, to whomsoever much is given much is required. Before Cornelius had received the gospel he was not accountable to things he didn't know of, "ie" Romans 2-14,15...... If he would have died before Peter arrived from from Jopa, he would not have been condemned to hell. AND beings that he was already free from rebellion to God, he then received and increase of the Spirit, and gladly received it... Cornelius and Lydia are examples of godly people, of whom the spirit of rebellion was absent, thus they gladly received and increase of the Spirit, and then became accountable to more....the scholarly pundits teach the same old lie of the serpent in the garden. That being, you can disobey God and surely not die. And they have no clue the difference between wilful rebellion, and sins of ignorance... .be blessed Willie & Bonnie

[@sheilasmith7779]

Matt, so no one in the old testiment was justified because Christ was not present? They had faith in God. Where did that faith in God come from? God: because He created the ability to believe.

[@AndrewAldissi-bg4go]

I’m so glad that salvation isn’t as complicated as the Calvinist would like it to be. Slick keeps saying people don’t understand this thing and that thing and reformed theology and blah blah blah. What a joke. You’re right Slick. We don’t understand your double talk and confusion peddling. Only a theologian could screw up something so beautiful and simple.

[@sheilasmith7779]

To know the nature of humans, the Garden of Eden story is it AND Cain and Abel's choices outside the Garden. Human desires, will and nature NEVER changed from the beginning of creation. Proof: Human history from Genesis forward.

[@user-er5qd7su5m]

A former crackhead? Like Hunter Biden????

[@user-er5qd7su5m]

Yes thankf I l servantsofchrist..Your points are treasured by christians of Americs....

[@sa-oz8gu]

The all are those that repent and forsake there sin.

[@5mjc]

Wise people win souls for God.

[@saved6655]

So beautiful, are we winning arguments or are we winning souls? Calvinist vs arminians is not the problem, it’s if you are reborn and if you are going into the world and making disciples. Sir you hit the nail on the head. Doctrine is important but humility is the greatest virtue and pride is the greatest sin.

[@forkfo90102]

Oh shoot I just found out this debate took place in my town. How did I miss this.

[@davidochiengbuoga7165]

Man is God's creature and God can use him as he wishes/wills

[@forkfo90102]

Come back to Montana Jesse. It’s a wish of mine to meet you and watch you preach in person. I’m in Montana and I didn’t have the ability to come see you. I’m close to Missoula. We have a yearly fair that is in dire need of the gospel.

[@jonathanjensen189]

Why did Paul seem to think that he was chosen because he was counted faithful? One might try to counter with that Paul used to do wickedly against the church, but didn't he do this in ignorance?

[@aaronfochtman3746]

It's interesting how a Calvinist will automatically jump to conclusions about the implications of anything non-Calvinist against the nature of God. Like, if I choose to humble myself and sincerely ask for forgiveness, I am putting God in a head lock and forcing him to forgive me.

[@leevww]

How one can say jesse won this..Matt slick dominated with scripture .I like and follow jessee. But this was a smash and grab . lesson learned..

[@oliverronquillo8158]

Jesse sounds like Bart Ehrman.

[@Shytot-1]

Can they discuss the brand of porridge the three bears were eating next? Because it's as important as the crap they are both spouting here.

[@Jere616]

The link to the book doesn't go to your book

[@user-er5qd7su5m]

We are not to Jusge anyone....

[@sa-oz8gu]

Faith is imputed not righteousness matt slick is a liar, no where in scripture does it say righteousness is imputed. “He who DOES what is right is righteous just as he TOO is righteous”

[@robertrodriguez-fk9qt]

The lady who accuse Matt being the biggest sinner he knows, is a total heretic, and i say this as a non Calvanist, she should look at her self in Adam and Eve, the first time they sin how shameful they were in their sin, it looks to me they were biggest sinners they knew at the time. The Bible describes them as naked, keep in Mind there weren't no people around, plus no one in their right Mind will not put something on for their nakedness, as the Bible describes they did for themselves with leaves. She should read her Bible, and stop insurting Calvanist or Open theist everywhere, or assume that is the case. The Bible is not meant to be like that, the Bible is meant even to read it to our Kids,. Jesus warned us about this, and said we must have faith as a child ,.

[@QuallsKen]

Sadly most of the questioners were rude and misguided and often wrong.

[@michellecheriekjv4115]

...wow...very nasty people coming up...

[@larrymcclain8874]

Hebrews 11:6; Hebrews 5:9; Acts 17:30; 2 Peter 3:9; Romans 2:11; Acts 10:34-35

[@Bkilfoil747]

Congratulations! You apparently are now a theist debater, because quoting different sections of scripture is all you have to do based on this "debate".

[@patrick9501]

Open Theology is biblical,Calvinism is not..how ever, once saved,always saved, otherwise, the promise of EVERLASTING LIFE, is a false promise.In plainer terms,it was never everlasting if it cannot LAST FOR EVER....got it? Matt Slick is correct and Jesse Morrell is wrong on just that one point.

[@shazulu2056]

I cant believe how famous you are without being famous. I barely heard about you but you being doing this for years

[@babayaga9570]

Matt's arguments are incoherent and full of logical fallacies and misrepresentations.

[@evanu6579]

Calvinists will typically say, "why did you believe, and your neighbour didn't? Are you wiser than him?". Matt made this assertion several times. Dan 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. 10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. Pro 8:17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.(wisdom) 35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD. Mat 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. 12 Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few. 2 Tim 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. I guess the answer can be found in scripture!

[@biblebullies9668]

Evan U why did God make some smarter than others?

[@evanu6579]

@@biblebullies9668 You don’t come out of the womb wise.

[@xneutralgodx]

Nebuchadnezzar actually did not lose his free will rather be lost his intellect or knowledge or was distorted by a evil spirit to be crazy. So with free will but a crazy mind. Therefore free will is only as powerful as the tools ,choice and gifts given to it. You can desire to fly or choose to fly but without power one cannot

[@riverjao]

Calvinism loses again 👍👊👍

[@Iain265]

sound quality on this video is dire!

[@PastorBillwillard2147]

Matt if your Heart is still wicked and desperately sick {Jeremiah 17:9} then you have not received the New Heart. You simply cannot be be 2 things at the same time ....you are either a New Creation or you are not......You are either a Saint or a Sinner......The New Birth is not a Dr Jeckle and Mr. Hyde experience my friend and that is the confusion with Calvinistic doctrine you have an Identity Crisis ...either ALL THINGS have become New or some things have become new. The problem is and always will be who is your authority Scripture or the Reformers none of which followed the teaching of the 1s,t 2rd, 3rd, century Church.

[@ThisIsGonnaBFine]

Tremendous Insight!

[@roseannemaye9263]

Exactamundo.

[@JLeppert]

Why is anyone still giving Matt Slick any kind of audience? I've never seen him beer intellectually honest and it hurts Christianity so bad.

[@michellecheriekjv4115]

Your pages shuffling in the microphone while he is talking is very distracting...and remember pple have ear buds in when you amp up the music between the talking ( at the intermissions )...very very difficult to get thru this debate...The Scriptures listed in the beginning by Mike destroyed your arguement...If we are born sinless...some would stay sinfree....God decides...God Elects...Man has no problem going to Hell if man chooses but if God chooses then its completely wrong?..Why can't God choose? He is God...does the lump of clay question the maker? Im not Calvinist...But God is the Sovereign of the Universe. Its God centered, not man centered....We will learn the complete Truth the other side of Eternity. Why do denominations hate each other soo much because they see a different view within the same scriptures.

[@user-er5qd7su5m]

GOD gave his only begotten son.Whosoever believeth shall have everlasting life.

[@jwescape5876]

Good debate. The behavior of some in the audience was sad.

[@JMUDoc]

An absolutely amazing "debate" - each side cited the same book to support diametrically opposite conclusions, and neither showed why they were right and the other was wrong. Might as well have been an intercut between two guys preaching.

[@zgs12212012]

I just subscribed to your channel. I appreciate your noticing of the facts. Thank you.

[@Yoctopory]

People arguing over which version of which interpretation of which holy book of which particular religion is the right one without having any evidence to support their claims whatsoever? That's religion for you.

[@Bkilfoil747]

No one won this debate. We did lose a few of my brain cells as these 2 grown adults quoted their favorite parts of their favorite books at each other for 3 hours and called it a debate. Sorry but debates involve taking a premise and deconstructing/reconstructing the argument to check it for validity and soundness. A debate is not making unfounded assertions then covering them up with more unfounded assertions. If anyone could demonstrate the truth of all these bald assertions it would be life changing for me so please do if you actually believe either of these men.

[@artbyrobot1]

both have valid points being made. Do you have a specific question I could help you with?

[@GatheringJacob]

Nobody understands Calvinism - it makes no sense and is definitely not defendable in the scripture!

[@matcomb7501]

But people do defend it

[@tommysuriel]

Oh it's understandable it just doesn't make sense and contradicts a just God.

[@GatheringJacob]

@@tommysuriel no it doesn’t make sense how YHWH can be good yet predestine people for hell! That will never make sense! The god of Calvinism is evil, and that’s why Calvin was a murderer, burning people at the stake for there different beliefs. He was just like his god, namely Satan!

[@russelljones4108]

The biggest problem with Calvinism and Augustine's teaching is that the only support for his teaching comes from the Gnostics and that these teachings where refuted by the majority of the Early Church Fathers. The Calvinist give no other historical documentation other than Augustine himself as being their authority and presenting the Apostolic teaching as not being truthful, that is hereicy not to teach the original message.

[@josephgarrett3075]

Russell Jones good Calvinists get their views from exegesis of the bible

[@rickyzoe1]

Joseph Garrett and none of the Apostolic Fathers or Apologists like Justin Martyr or Irenaus used sound exegesis? Every Christian for the 1500 years before John Calvin erred with regard to free will and Salvation? Have you read Irenaus on free will? Do you know he was a disciple of Polycarp who was a disciple of John who spent hours upon the breast of Jesus? Polycarp, Irenaus, Clement, Ignatius, Hippolytus were less than 200 years removed from Jesus. They gave their lives for the gospel and taught a ou're message. There was no need for them to interpret scripture because for one it was in their own language and for two they heard it FROM THE MOUTH OF THE APOSTLES. Calvin spit on their graves by having the audacity to detract and deviate from their truth. These men were Bishops who (think about this) succeeded the Apostles. Calvin not only burned a man at the stake but used green wood so that he'd suffer slowly. You tell me can a man like that actually be laying out a brand new Theology by the Spirit of God? With hate in his heart? No Calvanists don't exegete from the scripture they lean on the teachings of a man who probably created his doctrine to convince himself that he would not have to account for the wickedness of his heart. And millions have fallen for it and cannot get free from sin. After all why should they? According to Calvin they can come into the Holy of Holies with filth in their hearts and blood on their hands. Oh but David God's annointed could not build the Temple for the blood on his hands.

[@rickyzoe1]

@Andrew Mann Question... would Jesus, Peter, Paul or any of the Apostolic Fathers have done that with a presumed heretic or would they have had patience and trusted in the Sovereignty of God to preserve His word without having to resort to creating widows and orphans by killing a man? It may be in all fairness to you but I assure you God was not the author of those actions and there is no excuse or justification for those actions.

[@jimg4369]

Matt speaks out of both sides of his mouth. He is a false prophet. He rattles off one verse wonders just like the lost do instead of using context like he should. Just sad.

[@user-er5qd7su5m]

Christians love Jesse.....

[@user-er5qd7su5m]

Saint Jesse.

[@Mojo4884]

I am not Calvinist, Ecc 3 seems to sum up my view of doctrine debates in that there is a time for every purpose under heaven. I don't think and I could be wrong but, all believers that seek first the kingdom of heaven and endure to the end shall be saved. By the Grace of God as (works\worship) of faith in spirit and in truth. I have one question maybe two. Is this debate (iron sharpening iron or something more Anathema Maranatha)

[@gottacrushthis7556]

Calvinists corner doesn't speak for all calvinists. There are differing views in Calvinism.

[@theWordofGodMinistries777]

JESSIE YOU WERE TOO NICE TO MATT. YOU SHOULD HAVE CALLED HIM TO REPENTANCE OF HIS HERETICAL DOCTRINE BECAUSE HERESY IS A WORK OF THE FLESH AND HE WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD TEACHING TULIP

[@sa-oz8gu]

Matt your commanded to repent first not confess first, confession takes place over sins not unto death after you repent if you sin a sin not unto death not sins unto death. Repentance is not the free gift , remission of our (the repentant) past sins is the free gift.

[@sheilasmith7779]

If God created will in his humans, then God gets the credit for man's ability to choose. In Matt's view, human nature is sinful......but God didn't cause it, Adam did? Adam caused or created his sinful nature? Adam created nothing, but used what God created to make the choices Adam did.

[@scottbucich6060]

I am trying to download your book, but the page comes up blank. Suggestions?

[@bobbyfischersays1262]

You must affirm Calvinism before you can see spiritual truths 😂