Matt Walsh EPICALLY Fails in His Gotcha Exposé About Trans Healthcare & Insurance

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[@Phreemunny]

I work in healthcare; this is literally the role of a social worker. They are there to help people get the healthcare they need.

[@jimbob498]

So now you admit there is no medical requirement needed....

[@page8301]

@@jimbob498 Your reading comprehension is bad.

[@stefvanroey8191]

​@@jimbob498 this is the biggest oof i had in a while... the amount knowledge you have is staggeringly inverse to you confidence

[@jimbob498]

​@@stefvanroey8191you being an @$$hole doesnt make you correct...

[@antonioscendrategattico2302]

@@jimbob498 No you

[@thaenaa]

Matt "breed 'em while they're young and fertile" Walsh

[@piccoloatburgerking]

Matt "baby plushies of himself for your kids" Walsh

[@IAMSONICTH3H3DG3H0G]

Omg i know you from titter

[@fangsabre]

Matt "we don't have a teen pregnancy problem, we have an UNMARRIED pregnant teen problem" Walsh

[@tubian323]

MAP Walsh😂

[@shemarwhit8977]

​@@tubian323 Alright, you win.

[@JasonBoyce]

“Healthcare providers agree to do elective surgery.” Groundbreaking journalism here.

[@MrJurgenman]

Imagine if this outrage were directed towards breast augmentation

[@surrenderfleet]

​@@MrJurgenman they won't bring that up out of fear of hurting poor Steven Crowder

[@an0bserver2000]

@@MrJurgenman it is directed at that, but only if the person getting the breast augmentation is trans

[@eriksvensson6054]

@@MrJurgenman That is also bad

[@ob2kenobi388]

"Grown Adult Asks For Cosmetic Surgery, Doctor Approves. More at 6."

[@Montesama314]

So Walsh talks about how his friend tried to defraud a doctor? And hell, the doctor is actually INFORMING her "patient" about how his potential future procedure could affect him. She's literally doing her job correctly and this is supposed to be a "gotcha"?

[@athenaraines]

When you’re operating from a position of “the only way anyone would want this procedure done is if they’re clinically insane”, it looks tremendously irresponsible if a doctor agrees to it regardless of informed consent. To people like Matt Walsh, asking for an orchidctomy as a trans woman is essentially the same as asking for a medically unnecessary leg amputation; anyone who would ask for it cannot be trusted to make their own medical decisions and anyone who agrees to provide it should be charged with malpractice. Note; This is not my view. I’m trans myself. But this is how the right thinks.

[@odstarmor557]

When your sheep have been groomed into thinking that trans people are clinically insane and should not be trusted to make their own decisions and that doctors who offer the procedures are some malicious force, yeah its a gotcha to them.

[@weerwolfproductions]

a social worker is not a licensed health care provider. That's like saying your student counselor is a licensed health care provider. All they can do is write letters on behalf of their client saying 'doctor, i really think this person should be tested for X, as they displayed the symptoms of X when I saw them on (date).' That is LITERALLY all they can do. They don't order a doctor to do procedures on their client. They can't even officially give a medical diagnosis. They don't even have a psychology degree (although they can study for one which will make their work more effective).

[@raspberrybitch4299]

@@weerwolfproductions I dont care. All they're there to do is write the fucking letter to clear them for surgery.

[@DavisJ-ln6fw]

@@athenaraines And it's very silly view

[@sandrinelaberge8136]

I live in Canada. I had monstruous tits that didnt fit with the rest of my body. I was 13 and I talked about cutting them off. I was filled with anxiety, I hid my body, I was miserable, it even made me question my gender. I didnt have pain in my neck or back, so I was worried I was stuck with them forever. It didnt bring in suicidal thoughts, but i didnt feel like I was this body. 10 years later, I had breast reduction (for free bc Canadian health care common w) and I felt extremely better in my body, I even started feeling more feminine. I didnt have to have pain in my neck or back to be qualified to have it for free. When people started saying Gender affirming care is the same thing as cosmetic procedure for cis people, I absolutely agreed, never questioned it.

[@vanessacallahan3515]

My daughter in law had reduction because it was effecting her back and neck. She either did this or end up with back surgeries later.

[@sandrinelaberge8136]

@@vanessacallahan3515 Good for her :) hope she feels at home in her pain-free body

[@slv2386]

It's not the same thing as cosmetic procedures for cis people because it's for a different reason, but both should be respected and taken seriously. Glad you got to have surgery 💗

[@artikulv731]

I live in Canada too, and although my breasts/butt are relatively small (my butt slightly less so 😞) they give me anxiety and I am also going through the process of waiting till I turn old enough to remove them. Thanks for sharing your story, it’s always nice to hear people’s unique perspectives ❤

[@wintergray1221]

@@slv2386 I would argue that any procedure done to one's body in order to feel comfortable with that body is gender affirming to some extent. At least, in the sense of gender equating to how we perceive ourselves and want to be perceived by others.

[@laeliuss7495]

"i want to have this surgery" "Ok" Matt Walsh : this is literally the decline of western civilization and we'll all die because of it.

[@dinosaysrawr]

"This person reported experiencing certain symptoms to their healthcare provider and expressed specific health goals and desires to that provider, and the provider LISTENED, OFFERED INFORMATION, and was WILLING TO PROVIDE CARE! GASP!" If they wanted to spar with a doctor who was keen on sussing out liars, exaggerators, or malingerers, they should've tried asking for opioids or Adderall instead, or should've pretended to be a fat woman with just any health complaint.

[@laeliuss7495]

@@dinosaysrawr right? And why didn't he try the same exact "investigation" but with a teenager instead of an adult? He always cries about the dangers of trans ideology for kids anyway. But I'm willing to bet, he did try, but found how fucking hard it is, and how the left is right about not being just coming in and getting surgeries, so he did this pathetic thing instead, that at best, just shows that the for Profit health care system of the US is For profit.

[@Montesama314]

@@dinosaysrawr Watching a video about a woman informing a patient about potential issues related to a procedure, and seeing a bigot frame it as a shocking reveal into the inner mind of some sort of woke trans legion of doom, would be hilarious if it wasn't so destructive to public discourse. He knows his audience won't ACTUALLY watch what's being done or said, not with a clear head.

[@ugheieiemmmfmfmff]

Matt Walsh be like, "WAAAAAH IT'S ALL DEGENERATE WAAAAAAAH"

[@Mae_Dastardly]

If western society is so brittle that a group of people making up less than 1% of the population can destroy it by just existing then why is it worth protecting matt? I thought rejecting weakness was a right wing position, if thats true then shouldnt trans people be lauded as powerful conquerors for toppling the weak and pitiful west?

[@aabrightlove]

This surgery is a carefully-chosen example; orchiectomies are outpatient procedures that cis men can have performed essentially on demand, as long as it isn't for transgender reasons.

[@Tortle-Man]

That’s the funny bit. It’s easier to get an orchiectomy as a man, with no push back or questions asked, maybe a small discussion with their doctor, and no one cares. This is essentially the same and they are only up in arms because they hate trans people.

[@RageOfBeef]

​@@depiction3435 the one joke

[@aabrightlove]

@@depiction3435... What? Do you know what gender is? I actually didn't even lol Also, you just used singular they. Congrats on coalescing to at least one modern grammatical function

[@WhnNinjasAttack]

@@Vghtffghhj .......because they shoulden't have to jfc

[@angeldoe1229]

​@@depiction3435 damn got the whole squad laughing fr 😐

[@piccoloatburgerking]

Failing upwards is the true conservative way.

[@thedissidentleftist6997]

Like they are cancelling their own dying south USA owned Cracker Barrel when it's already gone from big blue cities.

[@OscarLangleySoryu]

Sam Eagle: it is the AMERICAN way-!

[@kingboobs20]

Matt Walsh failed at being a radio rock DJ, a job with the lowest standards possible.

[@LampoonGoon]

Walsh totally nailed this! You're all delusional - but that's precisely ur thing, isn't it!

[@ehs1452]

​@@LampoonGoon did you actually watch the video?

[@Dos_Caffeine]

Translation: US healthcare providers are expanding access to the same treatment I'm trying to ban, and that offends me 😡

[@jimbob498]

What???

[@kingmenelaus7083]

@@jimbob498 read the comment again. It's pretty clear.

[@jimbob498]

​@@kingmenelaus7083doesnt mean its coherent

[@Dos_Caffeine]

​@@jimbob498 it is, because it's making fun of how mad your grifter idol is at this news

[@jimbob498]

​@@Dos_Caffeinewhat???

[@bobspldbckwrds]

Matt Walsh needs to prove that it's too easy to get an orchiectomy by getting an orchiectomy.

[@MulkeyBlueQuartet]

Please!!! He can't impregnate an underage girl!!! Like im half serious but I'm kinda fully serious lol

[@edwardkantowicz4707]

It would be great if he could qualify for a two for one, and receive a complimentary vaginoplasty.

[@wiselioness322]

I’d be more than happy to give it to him. I’m not a doctor, but I know how to cut a steak and it can’t be that much different.

[@edwardkantowicz4707]

@@wiselioness322 Absolutely loving this reply! (no offence to transfolk)

[@KG9551]

Yes, please.

[@Adrien323]

Diagnosing a client and offering them support is woke.

[@aniima5335]

coddling these liberals with medical care, smh what’s next? life saving surgery? this country has gone too far.

[@nightlydrugs6927]

Not even diagnosing, really. Just recommending they be referred to someone who can.

[@OscarLangleySoryu]

So let me get this straight: The freedom people dont want others to have control over their own bodies because of the possibility that someone who doesnt need the treatment will lie to get it. And this should scare us because-??????

[@jimbob498]

Amazing how you leftists have become complete kuks for big pharma

[@senormacaco2834]

Something something grooming

[@Miss._Jellyfish_]

Something something gametes something something believing in science yet belonging to a religion

[@DevareayWilliams]

@@DangerJim-vq5uhAnd that would there own fault. There are plenty of people of cis who end up castrated from medical complications. Using your logic, that would mean those medical services should that can result in that should be banned as well, which you know would be a dumb thing to say

[@antarath517]

@@DangerJim-vq5uh So the thing is, mental health crises don't usually cause someone to lie their way into a surgery consultation and then follow through on it for months while it gets processed before finally saying "yes I meant it this entire time, give me surgery" That usually means they actually want it.

[@duckbringr]

As a detransitioned former transman (that isnt a terf) I love the way vaush describes this. Is the exact argument I made to my trans-skeptical family

[@jamesmcmackin8773]

I have a lot of respect for detransitioners that don't become a pick-me. You showed a lot of courage coming out, and even more when you realized it just wasn't for you. Hope all is well.

[@belisarius6949]

Hope you're alright, and that you were able to find yourself ❤️

[@duckbringr]

@James McMackin thank you. For me the reason for detransition was simply that I did not feel like the results of bottom surgery would alleviate my genital dysphoria (the primary driver of my gender dysphoria) and that's a choice *I made for myself* because I weighed the risks of surgery with the pros of it. All surgery has risks of complications and I think it's important that people stop associating the term "cosmetic" with "not necessary for the wellbeing of the patient". Transition is complicated and it sucks so much seeing these conservatives deliberately refuse to engage with the nuance of the subject in order to continue hating it

[@duckbringr]

@Belisarius thank you. I am doing well now and have found ways to relate to my body in positive ways. Understanding my autism diagnosis, identifying as transmasculine and having a partner that understands my relationship to my body really helped my particular case. It's really wild that any detransitioner would assume their experience with gender dysphoria is universal for all trans people

[@angelv0mit400]

I’m so happy to see another person like me who isn’t a massive transphobe now thank you

[@j0j0dartiste21]

My "favorite" part is when Matt plays 15 second no context clips as evidence

[@JARV9701]

Maximum retention span

[@cactus2260]

and the whole clip is just explaining the effects of the surgery so they're fully informed. i thought that's what they wanted lol they always say doctors don't discuss the effects of surgery

[@dragondahl3828]

​@@cactus2260 "You don't inform your patients, this is medical malpractice! Except you do, and the thing I'm bothered with is that you're telling the truth! I *want* you to tell them they'll be mutilated, die, and be unhappy forever!"

[@zachmiller9175]

This whole debate feels like arguing you dont have the right to say you're depressed unless one of a certain set of doctors diagnoses you with clinical depression and you're taking antidepressants, its designed to make self deletion seem like the easier option when the thing youre asking for shouldn't even have gates to be kept let alone a gatekeeper.

[@alyssashady]

its exactly that 😔

[@defeitosespeciais2127]

😊

[@tomisaacson2762]

You can say you're depressed whenever you want but medical diagnoses and many prescription meds should absolutely be gatekept. That's literally the function of a diagnosis. If your diagnostic category doesn't include some and exclude others according to specific criteria, then you have a useless diagnostic category. Just look at the fiasco during COVID where people with Lupus and other serious autoimmune conditions couldn't get their hydroxychloroquine because of widespread misuse of the drug for covid treatment. Even people with medical expertise misdiagnose people all the time and it's infinitely worse when medically ignorant laypeople people try and diagnose themselves. It's not gatekeeping that's the problem. The transphobia and the profit-run medical care is the problem. To be clear, I think transgender people, like everyone, should have free medical care. If their medical providers, using the best available evidence, think that entails puberty blockers, or HRT, or surgeries or whatever, then they should get it.

[@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty]

More than that. It's literally saying you don't have any right to any medical care unless you want to "prove it" EVERY TIME. Like imagine telling your doctor "hey man I think I have the flu, I have all the symptoms I've had previously with it so what medicine can I buy for it again?" And them denying you that information because you haven't been tested enough to find the specific strain. Like in this clip the guy was lying his ass off to get a surgery he didn't want to prove something to twitter, are doctors just supposed to assume everyone is doing that all the time?? And are they supposed to assume responsibility for that behavior instead of the adult whose doing that?? This shit is why it takes an average of 10 years to get diagnosed with endometriosis, people trying to make it harder for others to get sex-related treatments "incase they're lying/confused". This is straight up denying people medical autonomy. You have no right to what happens to your body unless you can "throughly prove" you need it/want it to absolutely everyone with that mentality. Edit: and that can lead them to saying you need to "throughly prove" you don't as well, see the 10 year old abortion case.

[@darkcrystalmagik3369]

That sucks, I've been denied healthcare that I desperately needed & almost died, & another time was left in so much agonizing pain bc of a negligent Dr not giving the care I deserved that I tried to unalienable myself. I wouldn't wish that on anyone & will adamantly argue for All Americans to get the care they need & deserve whatever their health care needs- whether physical, mental, or cosmetic (i.e. burn & accident victims, & ppl with conditions where the classication as such belies a genuine need for reasons of both health & to erase the stigma these ppl live with, in their career, in society, & difficulties with self image & relationships & mental health- such as need for dental implants or dentures, treatment of scars acne & other skin conditions that all or many insurance doesn't cover, etc. I do think there does need to be some medically necessary "gates" so to speak, to protect ppl who have severe depression & suicidal ideation that is NOT a result of the dysphoria, bc a painful & major surgery & recuperation period in which they'll rely on potentially addictive painkillers & could develop a psychological dependency afterwards, also there ate some types of mental disorders where ppl actually want to remove body parts that don't need to be, for reasons like real or phantom pain, or other psychological troubles giving them the urge to change their body, & these do need to be carefully screened for. Also, it's absolutely not OK, & it is an example of the same conservative patriarchy that maligns trans folks being harmful to cis women, proving the 2 groups share a common oppressor, but it's actually EXTREMELY Common for adult cis women to be denied to ability to chose to change HER body to permanently remove her chance of pregnancy. Women eking to have their tunes tied are almost ALWAYS denied until at least 40 yo in the U.S. it doesn't matter if she is ADAMANT she never wants kids or if she already has 2 or 3 and doesn't want more.... finding an Obgyn to perform the operation is almost ALWAYS impossible, without a medical condition that makes pregnancy extremely dangerous to her. So obviously trans folks deserve care, just an example to show that many other groups experience terrible treatment from Doctors and from the medical system ad are infanticide when they say that they know best what they want for their body.

[@shawnwales696]

Failure to get care is the main reason trans folk get suicidal ideation, isn't it?

[@mogscugg2639]

Yeah it's the same reason Italian crime went down when we were accepted as equals under the law

[@shadow13151]

​@@mogscugg2639 the most oppressed class

[@HotDogTimeMachine385]

Yup. Bullying people and telling them they are monsters has a negative effect on them. If only conservatives could understand something this basic.

[@shadow13151]

​@FreeSpeechArmy grass

[@thedissidentleftist6997]

​@@HotDogTimeMachine385 They refused to believes it. Even mass shootings are down in non California Democrat run states while it's up in parts of the south. LA and southern california is very conservate so that's one reason.

[@sodiumfluoridel]

Gruesome, life altering surgeries to rip out and mutilate parts of the body! Congrats walsh you just described the life saving surgery for appendicitis

[@mogscugg2639]

Does Matt Walsh know that kids can get cancer

[@41052]

I know they would go crazy when they hear about my gallbladder

[@_molls]

*wisdom teeth have entered the chat*

[@treytavares6410]

Have you heard of rod installation for scoliosis correction? Mat walrus' face will melt when he hears about the process. (I've been there and done that)

[@donovanmahan2901]

Don't forget about the cancer treatments where you are literally poisoned because the cancer cells will die first.

[@ilonachan]

"Everyone on the Right who calls themselves a libertarian is a nazi" gets some more weight after the last debate where it took literally no time for the guy to argue that we shouldn't have civil rights legislation.

[@Maunti]

As a national liberal, fuck American libertarians.

[@almosthelpless9374]

I had a brief Ron Paul phase when I was younger and couldn't vote. As soon as I found out he opposed the various civil rights acts in the 60s I stopped caring what he had to say.

[@blackwatertv7018]

Look at the Missues caucus and the libertarian party official platform, when it comes to Russia and Ukraine. It’s not a stretch to call most conservative libertarians proto-Nazis

[@mogscugg2639]

Vaush missed out on a big opportunity to ask if our banking practices are moral

[@jamesmcmackin8773]

Meanwhile I'm just over here wanting cheap tax-free cigs and legal DMT rations that are funded with the police budget.

[@calebangell77]

My doctor literally had to lie and make up certain symptoms to my insurance company for better diabetic supplies which has brought my a1c from the 9s to the 6s. It's an insurance problem not a trans problem.

[@Argumemnon]

By the way, thanks for comparing trans affirming care to other kinds of surgery. You're entirely correct, and you've helped my further understanding of this issue.

[@ExpertBustice]

It's not the same though for one key reason: You don't see a short guy, immediately start call him mam, and struggle to treat him like a man even after he corrects you. Gender affirming care literally changes the way a person interfaces with the world. The societal difference between how short men are treated and how tall men are treated is not remotely comparable to how men vs women are treated. Not to mention the current political climate. I get that it sucks to be short in a world where being tall is rewarded, and it can absolutely decimate some guys' confidence, but if I passed better, it might literally be the difference between being a martyr or not for just going to the grocery store.

[@silver_tongue9644]

@@ExpertBustice so they aren't the same, one is way way more necessary than the other to our mental health. But they are done for similar reasons.

[@interdimensionalsteve8172]

The whole thing is part of his strange ability to conflate KIDS and ADULTS trans healthcare. Why this works on his audience is baffling.

[@drycoochie2146]

I mean it worked for the tucking swimsuit over at target. The Conservative media lied about it being marketed to kids when in reality it was only sold to adults. They could lie openly about such things, because they know their audience won't actually fact-check anything.

[@nondescriptcat5620]

it's because his audience is unimaginably stupid.

[@amberkat8147]

Given his view on sleeping with teen girls, it's no wonder he can't keep the differences straight.

[@Sonjaslostson]

Because Critical Thinking skills are not taught nearly early enough

[@robertkirchner7981]

Matt Walsh proves that if you lie about needing something you don't, you'll get something you don't need. wow.

[@jimbob498]

Ya, its only insurance fraud. No biggie

[@Montesama314]

What's worse is that trans folks have to basically lie about something they don't necessarily have just to get what they do need.

[@forgenorman3025]

@@jimbob498 Yup, so Matt should be charged. That's it. There's no more to the story than Matt Walsh being a moron as usual.

[@nilscarlson8168]

@jimbob498 Yes, no one should intentionally lie about their condition and commit insurance fraud. Does the existence of fraudsters mean we shouldn’t provide care to the people who need it?

[@darryljack6612]

Gotta love Matt (not apart of the vast majority of the doctors in the world) Walsh giving his input on things he literally have no extensive knowledge on.

[@Zer0.-_]

This is a common thing with conservatives. You could see it all throughout COVID. They thought that Facebook articles, fringe doctors generally not respected in their field of study, and other armchair scientists knew more than people with decades of understanding and knowledge in the field of virology.

[@creatrixZBD]

“I think I probably know more about trans people than anyone currently on the planet.” Matt Walsh, Elon’s mate

[@Ronnie.Raymond]

Walsh be like “mY crEdenTiALs aRe bEinG an ADuLt wiTh cOmmON sEnSE!”

[@0l0f75]

Even just granting him having any knowledge on the matter is very generous lmao

[@blackwatertv7018]

But he has eyes he can see what’s happening clearly (his owns words)

[@HappehMasterChannel]

Funny thing is, he has to get his balls removed now to avoid committing healthcare fraud

[@MulkeyBlueQuartet]

Good

[@private-local-enemy]

maybe it'll have a positive impact on his behavioral patterns and temperament. like a dog.

[@fghsgh]

​@@private-local-enemyas a trans girl, can confirm, annihilating my testosterone levels had an excellent impact on my behavioral patterns and temperament (solved my anger issues, fixed my depression, made me able to actually smile, made me mature somehow, made me feel at rest for the first time since the testosterone started in the first place)

[@zenbear9952]

So they're exposing something we already know and is completely normal regarding medical reccomendations?

[@JosilyneTwigg]

Pretty much

[@chrisfortin]

But with the right buzzwords and saying it affects kids despite no evidence, the social media goons spread this nonsense for the likes.

[@dinosaysrawr]

Matt Walsh would love working for an insurance company, I reckon. He'd feel zero guilt about denying someone's claim because they hadn't proven that it was medically necessary to take a medication to reduce their suicidal ideation, and he'd love cutting people off after six sessions of therapy.

[@dragondahl3828]

​@@dinosaysrawr Matt Walsh would probably like any job where could be a sick sadist, to be honest.

[@highzen7107]

Isn’t it still fraudulent in regards to the whole “intentionally lying about gender dysphoria to get insurance to cover it” aspect

[@cnvrgnt]

One comment I’ve seen elsewhere sums this situation up perfectly (paraphrasing): Matt Walsh watched a slideshow and prank called a nurse practitioner who was just trying to be nice and is trying to use that as evidence that trans healthcare is bad

[@pridemoth_]

I love when conservatives play clips of "woke people" to scaremonger and the person in question is just being exceedingly normal

[@dontuserachelslurs]

i had to get two separate letters from two different mental health care providers to have this surgery. The first was from my therapist, the second was I had to find a different therapist and have a conversation with them to get another letter. This was kinda like that second conversation. Is there any other medical procedure that requires this level of scrutiny and gatekeeping? The therapist knew it was a waste of time that was simply required as an ass-cover for insurance but still went through the process of asking me questions for an hour.

[@russellzwicker3226]

Same! I had to get a letter from my regular therapist AND a second letter from a specially-trained psychiatrist I saw once. This is in Canada, too, where things are slightly less apocalyptic.

[@an0bserver2000]

i cant even access surgery at all. the idea that trans people constantly get instantly approved for medical care is ludicrous, we constantly have to jump through hoops for it.

[@gracesoriano2367]

My hysterectomy took 8 doctors over 5 years before a doctor agreed to it because as a woman, it is assumed I am straight and my husband owns me and I need his permission to get the surgery, and I am a dumb woman who can’t make decisions for herself and I’ll regret getting a surgery to remove an organ that was ruining my life. I needed two letters from a psychiatrist and a therapist, and even in the end, the doctor refused to accept my reason for getting it done. The surgeon begrudgingly performed the surgery. It was miserable. Trans women and men and cis women’s healthcare is so f-ed up. Doctors really only look at patients through a cis white man lens.

[@amberkat8147]

@Michael Euthanasia No, the comment is relevant because it shows that it's not just trans people who are assumed to not know what they want or need and denied basic rights to make medical decisions regarding their own bodies.

[@thatdumbass9856]

​@michaeleuthanasia7089 Grown ass trans adult: shut up and take my money! Doctors: Buh muh religion/politics

[@Montesama314]

Geez, ANOTHER lie? Walsh really needs a hobby... No, NOT ONE NEAR ANY KIDS.

[@vanessacallahan3515]

Sadly he has 6 of them and not stopping anytime soon. Wouldn’t be surprised if they were part of the Quiverfull movement.

[@Montesama314]

@@vanessacallahan3515 His utterance of "I violate my kids' consent all the time" has not left my mind.

[@vanessacallahan3515]

@@Montesama314 He said he’d rather his kid die than be LGBTQ. And thinks a 16 year old could marry because she’s most fertile. The guy is a creep! I often wonder about his wife.

[@vanessacallahan3515]

@@Montesama314 oops I just found out she’s had seven miscarriage. OMG!

[@amberkat8147]

@@vanessacallahan3515 Oh, the poor lady.

[@ianking7511]

When an insanely authoritarian conservative like Walsh thinks of healthcare it's important to understand that they think the whole medical system should basically tell you what you can and cannot do. There is no presumption of bodily autonomy, no expectation of freedom. You get what you're given and do as you're told.

[@Invisibleguy-kn7bd]

I'm a guy who had pretty severe gynecomastia. Had a single tit that was just chillin on my chest. You'll notice I say had, because I had it removed with no questions about why I wanted it gone or any kind of extra steps. The only thing that was a small roadblock was the waitlist because I managed to get it through the NHS. There's no reason why trans people shouldn't get the same level of treatment and respect for their decisions

[@camposporium4536]

​@@DangerJim-vq5uhbreast removal is one of the most commonly discussed gender affirming surgeries, hence why its relevant to the discussion.

[@Invisibleguy-kn7bd]

@Danger Jim No

[@camposporium4536]

@@DangerJim-vq5uh the issue is bodily autonomy. Orichemtomy and top surgery are both things that fully consenting adults choose to undergo under medical supervision and are perfectly safe as long as you keep up with your medications.

[@camposporium4536]

@@DangerJim-vq5uh they usually do screen for mental health conditions that effect your ability to make an informed decision, but having a history of suicidal ideation doesn't actually make you unable to consent. The regret rate for trans surgeries are very low and I haven't seen any evidence that suggests that barring suicidal people from transitioning has any benefits. Generally speaking people's mental health improves after transition, so it would be cruel to prevent mentally unwell people from accessing healthcare that can improve their life.

[@belladonna5012]

@Danger Jim You don't need a mental health professional to write a letter saying "this person isn't insane and incompetent" for any other procedure. Why this one? (I will note, _vasectomies_ can be permanently sterilizing: they are _not_ always reversible. Even so, no one is ever required to get a mental health check first.)

[@jakthebomb]

Medical systems, Electric Grids and Internet Services should be Nationalized. All three are essential to modern life, yet all three are profit driven industries that cost more and stagnate

[@funngamma45]

In my line of work I see a lot of cosmetic surgery for babies. Like fixing a cleft lip is generally considered a good thing evoen thoung you can totally live with it for the rest of your life. The quality of life improvement is great.

[@erinesee]

This is 100% bullshit. Not because of the social worker, but because there is no way in hell any insurance in the US approves anything in 22 minutes.

[@neoqwerty]

Not without one *hell* of a thick wad of green, anyway, in which case how much did Matt spend bribing insurance people?

[@Griffolion0]

If as a cis man you use male oriented bodywash / shampoo products, you are receiving gender affirming care. For what other reason would you gravitate towards products named "AR-15 and granite" if not to affirm you are the gender you feel you are?

[@Jon.A.Scholt]

I cannot even imagine how insecure a man would have to be to get AR-15 soap. Also, it is your moral obligation to merciless heckle whatever idiot buys that stuff. I cannot think of anything "less cool" that someone thinks is actually cool. "Errr, I'm more manly than you because my soap is named after a gun used in school shootings!"

[@Alex-0597]

Honestly, I gravitate towards the men's shampoo and body wash because it's cheaper than feminine stuff, lol. Pink tax is unfortunately real

[@jonathanard7885]

​@Alex-0597 The pink tax does exist in some forms but cmon there's obv a huge quality difference in this case, men's bodywash is like dish soap

[@Alex-0597]

@@jonathanard7885 As long as I get clean, I don't really care about exfoliating additives or lubricating compounds or whatever.

[@Alex-0597]

@Danger Jim Yes, exactly, I'm glad you're keeping up with Modern Gender Theory. Make sure to study the chapter on attack helicopter pronouns, that's going to be on the test 👍

[@canadagoose8543]

Matt Walsh's logic is good for my OCD... a perfect circle.

[@MulkeyBlueQuartet]

His brain is a hamster wheel with no hamster and he has to manually spin it

[@Montesama314]

The social worker, and by extension Walsh, is ultimately showing the difficulty of trans folks in getting care with insurance, the exact opposite of what Walsh wants to claim, some sort of ease in getting "mutilated."

[@mayayamato7351]

i love how every time transphobes try to prove people are being "rushed" into transition the evidence and clips they provide always show somebody just explaining the process and how things work and the patient or "patient" in this case has like a normal & understandable amount of time to go through all the steps.

[@drewmungus5841]

As someone who's been through trans surgeries as an adult: the reason she keeps calling the letter a "persuasive essay" is not to convince any doctors to give you your surgery, nor is it to convince the patient that they're trans, as I think Mald Walsh is trying to imply. It's just to convince your insurance, because most US insurance companies will do whatever they can to not cover your medical needs. To doctors (at least the ones I've seen, and I'm in the middle of the Bible Belt) the letter is just a check on the list of rules they have to follow to keep their medical license. Your psychologist/therapist knows what the letter is for, they know how to diagnose you, and they're the ones who actually care about you getting the healthcare you need. That's why they're emphasizing how to do it in a way that actually works to get insurance coverage. It's because they know how many hoops we need to jump through and they actually care about helping.

[@galleryofrogues]

Mald Walsh, nice, I’m gonna remember that.

[@syddlinden8966]

Matt Walsh: "I'm angry about insurance companies!" Everyone else: "welcome to the human race bro."

[@thesapphicbouquet8133]

Watching a person calmly and rationally explain to Matt Walsh's "undercover" producer about tranfem HRT is infuriating. Such a waste of time on someone who's such an ignoramus, when this healthcare worker could be helping a trans person.

[@rogirek3362]

This person is not an ignoramus. An ignoramus doesn't know. This person is a liar. It's different.

[@lystic9392]

He makes a lot of sense to a lot of people. Don't focus on the one person. He represents the ideas of many. That's why it's valuable to engage in conversation.

[@DavisJ-ln6fw]

@@lystic9392 He makes no sense and convinces only bigots or the ignorant. The man matters and his evil matters. There is value in engaging with him other then to expose his lies.

[@thatdumbass9856]

​@@DavisJ-ln6fwyep. He genuinely should be put down

[@mrrobotreads]

Social worker: I'm not qualified to diagnose gender dysphoria, but I can get potential patients' feet in the insurance door so doctors can diagnose and help them without financially crippling them. Matt Walsh: J'ACCUSE! Social worker: What? That's the literal description of my job: Help people access affordable healthcare.

[@MrLuffyoo]

All the hate the lgbt community is receiving recently is scary...

[@thepolarphantasm2319]

Map Walsh and his fake junk science 😂😂😂

[@galleryofrogues]

pub intended?

[@galleryofrogues]

*pun

[@1123elemental]

I've always been of the opinion that theres literally no difference between making fun of someone for being short and making fun of them for being black/asian/hispanic. Because as it turns out, making fun of peoples immutable characteristics is incredibly fucked up. We're literally destroying the mental health of some of these young men and for what exactly? Because they don't fit up to standards that they have no control over? Its always been wrong and im glad people are finally saying something.

[@utubepunk]

💯

[@danekelly6661]

People weren't lynched for being short.

[@Ergoperidot]

There’s definitely dynamics of hegemonic power that you aren’t really acknowledging. Shortness is usually a disadvantage of course but short people have never been categorically oppressed by virtue of their shortness. I get what you mean though and there is some truth to what your saying. People shouldn’t discriminate or make fun of people for immutable characteristics in general, the morality of each situation is different though.

[@thedissidentleftist6997]

​@FreeSpeechArmy Why is mass shooting down in non california blue states? Up in the south? Even Southern California is very conservate.

[@Spencerwalker21]

​@FreeSpeechArmybad troll job do better

[@ragnarokda206]

I had gynecomastia but only in my right boob since I hit puberty. In my mid 20s it got so bad that I actually subconsciously changed my posture to accommodate for my lop-sided chest size. It didn't hurt me but I was extremely self-conscious about it. Finally saw several doctors and they kept telling me it was cosmetic to get it done and insurance wouldn't cover it until I finally found a doctor who asked if it caused me pain and then proceeded to define what she considered "pain". Once that diagnosis was on record I was able to get coverage to get a mastectomy!

[@maxhatush5918]

You amab?

[@calestaiezu214]

It’s sucks so bad trying to convince insurance companies to cover anything. I work in pain management and at the beginning of the year, we had to stop giving treatments to patients that said their pain was under a 5. You know, because maybe what we were doing was helping. They refused to cover it. We’ve been making sure patients tell us what their worst pain was throughout the month, that way, we can keep treating them. We works side by side with an ortho practice too and we’ve seen insurance deny hip and knee replacements… they deny MRI’s and x-rays we need to see what’s wrong and how to treat the patient and say they aren’t “medically necessary.” All to save themselves some money. If they could have their way, they would go back to not covering people with pre existings because sick and hurt people don’t make them money.

[@neoqwerty]

@@maxhatush5918 Gynecomastia is a male condition (where a male human develops breast tissue), so fucking *duh* they're amab.

[@ragnarokda206]

@@maxhatush5918 Yeah I am amab.

[@ragnarokda206]

@@calestaiezu214 Unfortunate but intended consequence of our capitalistic healthcare system is that insurance companies ALWAYS do not think what you need help with is medically necessary.

[@user-em6ie2be7x]

Why couldn't Pat Robertson taken Matt Walsh with'em?

[@SnackThatSmilesBacktm]

there are tons of meds that are "technically" for something but used for so many things that they are just for a bunch of things now. Hydroxyzine is a great example, it's used for anxiety, restless leg syndrome, and tons of other stuff.

[@thedissidentleftist6997]

Nerves related

[@willievp2409]

I take that shit for panic attacks

[@neoqwerty]

The greatest one is effing viagra. It's a HEART MEDICATION. The SIDE EFFECT is erections. We literally prescribe it more for the side effect than for its original, main effect. (I forget what it does exactly but it's for heart problems) Also we use it for some animals for I think blood pressure, as an emergency, IIRC. (human meds having weird effect on animals is a really good example of using the same compound for multiple things)

[@thedissidentleftist6997]

@@neoqwerty It have something to do with the reception on outside of a cell which can vary in abundant depending on the types of cells with just one particular kind of reception.

[@KOZMOuvBORG]

Called "Off Label" use.

[@Normoe445]

I don't fit the exact clinical definition for ADHD, yet I'm on meds for it

[@Echo39Winter]

Little Matthew doesn't believe in ADHD, so he'd probably tell you that the corrupt healthcare system has given you meth for having slight attention problems lol

[@RoxanneBarbelo]

It takes several months to get approved for an Orchiectomy. I know this for fact. It took me several months of questions with a therapist before I was given a letter of approval. I'm also Intersex and need the surgery but still had to go through a lengthy process. It doesn't matter whether you are an adult or not you can't just ask for Orchiectomy and receive one. It does not work like that in the States.

[@RoxanneBarbelo]

Simply living in an unsupportive environment where you don't have anyone to help you after surgery will keep you from getting approved. For example, most of my friends live in Southern VA and I live in the DC area. I almost didn't get approved because I didn't have two people to provide to the therapist to prove that I will be cared for post-surgery.I also have to show I am currently mentally stable. If not, I have to undergo psychological treatment and be cleared before being approved for the surgery.. The process is complex. More complex than I described.

[@hydra6076]

@Danger Jim Did you not even watch the videos? The actor lied about their medical history saying they had been doing HRT for a wile already. You are everywhere in these comments ! We get it bro, you have no life and hate trans people. Congrats 🎉

[@RageOfBeef]

​@Danger Jim that's not what this is, it's a letter to give to an insurance company to get the insurance company to pay for a doctor's appointment to pursue treatment, this is how medicine has always worked

[@doratheace]

Gender dysphoria =/= body dysmorphia. Us CIS people experience body dysmorphia. Trans people experience gender dysphoria. It's much harder to them, cis people can get over it with a minimal ammount of therapy and not even surgery. Trans people HAVE to have gender affirming care.

[@MiaoNya]

Thank you for this bit. Unironically arguing that cases of Body Dysmorphia are like Gender Dysphoria are unintentionally harmful, and in some capacity, validate the Conservative talking-point that Gender-Affirming care is unnecessary.

[@camposporium4536]

I mean, I think there's a fair argument that cis people do sometimes get treatments that are deemed medically necessary for gender affirmation purposes. I don't think it's unique to trans people, even if we disregard cases of body dismorphia. Gynocomastia removal is often seen as medically necessary in young men, but the main reason those surgeries are performed is because of how having excess breast tissue can negatively impact body image. Its very common for cis women to get implants after breast removal for cancer and this is typically done for mental health and body image reasons. Trans healthcare is obviously important, but I don't think it's unique.

[@celinematerzok6421]

Also, cis ppl can experience gender dysphoria, when, like the previous person said, they have gynocomastia or even when they crossdress everyday with good passing from days to months. Does happen quiet alot on actors who play opposite sex/gender characters.

[@hollyasteria4138]

I agree, its not the SAME, but you have to acknowledge that body dysmorphia can he horrible to, I wouldnt say that "one is harder than the other" at all, both things can be extremely traumatizing and horrible. Also, some trans people dont have any or very small amounts of gender dysphoria and some do actually find out how to allieviate it for themselves to a point where they can live a fulfilled life (Even tho this isnt the majority of trans people) Btw, some cis people do experience gender dysphoria too! But seriously, its so hard to get gender affirming care, not even just because of doctors and those unnessecarily long ways and "requirements" that you have to go through, but also due to how much misinformation exists in regards to this topic. Coming from a transperson btw (Sorry if I made any spelling mistakes or something, Im 14 years old and still learning english)

[@ouwebrood497]

This is how the social worker should react to this 'gotcha' from Walsh: "This dude has the balls to lie to me during the whole interview and I recommend him to have those balls removed."

[@MrJurgenman]

Elon Musk underwent gender-affirming hairline treatment

[@doglegseggs]

Matt "If She Can Bleed She Can Breed" Walsh

[@call_me_river]

I disagree about the waiting until you’re 18+, as medically necessary is medically necessary… even when it’s pre 18

[@an0bserver2000]

vaush even admitted that the regret rate is insanely tiny, but still says we should be forced to be as miserable as possible until we turn 18. I know he means well but this just feels like hes trying to find an "acceptable middle ground" between us and the people who want us dead

[@properduction2586]

Matt “definitely not a Nazi” Walsh..

[@merrybeans3029]

It's not only trans health issues...we gatekeep tf out of women's healthcare too especially reproductive health. It's still effing terrible.

[@Opheliakami]

Yup, a lot of childfree, married women are turned away.

[@beastamer1990s]

As a self designated t-slur i sincerely apologise for all the r-slur queer queens in the chat arguing with vaush on his really easy to understand arguments

[@MudkipsAreEpicWin]

He self Identifies as a Theocratic Fascist? Just openly?

[@sbushido5547]

He tries to do crap like that ironically, kinda like what Colbert used to do on his old show. Problem is...he's too stupid to understand that it's not a joke if you just straight-up believe that garbage in the first place.

[@nondescriptcat5620]

yes.

[@Golems_victory]

@@nondescriptcat5620 because conservatives are dumb grublins....like I always occasionally say and reference Spyro stuff......cuz why not online.

[@Montesama314]

Walsh is presenting these posts and videos and he's really stretching for the sinister connotation. Of course you write a "persuasive essay" to explain your position and why you need treatment of whatever kind. That is literally what such a writing is called. Does Walsh prefer a legal brief?

[@kidsofyesterday17]

It is sinister. Like if you needed triple bypass surgery it's because your arteries are blocked and you'll die without it. And if you had to game the insurance to achieve it then so be it which is really fucked up but I digress. But these are NOT necessary procedures they're elective and cosmetic and honestly these people are teaching others how to FAKE a diagnosis in order to get invasive procedures done. THAT is sinister.

[@Montesama314]

@Danger Jim No, he'd prefer no gender affirming healthcare for trans people.

[@audioish]

The video of the fake trans woman calling and not trying to pass but being treated like a person and specifically a woman and respected. Is a fucking gold star for this doctor and the medical system. Not an indictment of it.

[@Culled]

We need to stop letting them frame this as “protecting kids” no one is harming kids, or talking to kids a bout sex, we just want everyone to be respected. That’s it. They won’t stop at states rights, or kids, they want trans people eradicated.

[@MetaphorUB]

Neither do you need a letter from a social worker to go have your own elective cosmetic surgery even if you’re obviously addicted and at a surgeon for the 26th time to fix the botched surgery from the 25th.

[@yeenbean3318]

Trans surgery is more or less reconstructive surgery. Gender dysphoria is the medical condition that's being treated, and it causes a similar amount of distress that a cancer patient might have after losing their breasts. Both would need reconstructive surgery to make them feel less gender dysphoria.

[@frocco7125]

Here's the thing, I'm a transhumanist. I believe there SHOULD be VERY LITTLE regulation on what people are allowed to modify about their bodies. I LIKE these surgeries being accessible.

[@wintergray1221]

Right? I personally dislike excessive piercings and tattoos. As in, I would never get them myself. But I'm not all over the Internet trying to convince people that anyone with that aesthetic is subhuman, etc. People are people. We got one life, and unless it's actively harming someone (keyword here: actively) we should be able to live it in whatever way we like.

[@Purplesquigglystripe]

On the leg lengthening surgery thing: there are also people with dwarfism who have extremely bowed legs that make it difficult to walk. By letting people without dwarfism to get the surgery, you put more resources into the research of the surgeries and make it safer for the people who would greatly benefit from it.

[@Kuzo53]

Matt Walsh exposes that…social workers…help trans people get the care they need and…medical workers….diagnose illness before administering treatment…incredible stuff

[@FeydrisDaLaska]

The nurse practitioner in Matts video is the same person that helps me, she is great and i hate that she had to deal with this shit

[@nervousbreakdown711]

Meanwhile my insurance won’t even pay for Vyvance

[@daniel67797]

Rip. As a britbonger living in Scotland, I've had free Vyvance for years 😅

[@tobiasdodd9521]

Yeah, that really sucks. The therapy center that I got my Vyvanse through was really hard to get in contact with and needed me to call in every month for a refill (which I understand because it's a controlled substance, but that's not very acsessible for people like me who has a very extensive and documented problem of phone anxiety and no transport). I do know that there are multiple services where you can get your RX at a discount if money is a problem for you.

[@missjayspeechley9213]

I use to take 100mg of spironolactone per day as part of my gender transition. My mother's boyfriend is on 20mg per day due to age and prostate issues. She made me promise never to let him know they we were both on the same medication, because if he knew what I was taking and why, he might stop taking his

[@whiterunguard1434]

Vaush is the best

[@piccoloatburgerking]

Literally VOWSH.

[@Blank-Slate-Not]

PROOF?!

[@trilbykid6135]

Who told you that? CNN, MSNBC, the Looney Libs?

[@thedissidentleftist6997]

​@@trilbykid6135 Never heard MSM promoting Vaush. Only Joe Rogan, Matt walsh, even Jimmy Dore shows up on MSM articles.

[@ilonachan]

@@trilbykid6135 All of them. Dark Brandon told me this personally

[@xxBRANDYSAURUSREXxx]

"Mutilate"; you mean 'surgery'?

[@amberkat8147]

I would like to point out that their efforts to keep minors from getting puberty blockers effects non-trans kids too. My sister might have to take my nephew out of the state to get him puberty blockers so he has a chance of not being a Little Person like she is. She hit puberty way early, and we had no idea it would cause her to be so short. She's fine, but she needs a cushion to drive and stuff, and she's had to deal with people not taking her seriously and trying to mess with her her whole life. (She had a friend in college who dumped water on her EVERY DAY their first year as a joke. You know, "to see if she'll grow." Not the first time she'd encountered that joke, btw.) She's well aware of what it will mean socially for her son, and that it will be worse for him as a man, which is why it's so important to her. (Short kings are kings, neither of our parents are tall and I'm fairly short myself, our bro will also never come close to 6' unless he suddenly develops a tendency to lie, and we're all fine but there's a lot of shallow people who don't realize that and will give him heck for it. Also, the world is built for people of a certain height, and I'm guessing she doesn't want him to have to rely on strangers or climb the shelves when grocery shopping for the rest of his life.) In his case the cause is apparently linked to the medication to treat his severe ADHD, apparently it can do that and maybe no one warned them or they were just too desperate. He's actually on growth hormones now to counter it, but they'll only work until a certain point in puberty and he's running out of time. So yeah, way to go you political f*****s in Nebraska! I hope you frick yourselves with the business end of a rake!

[@catborg780]

Exactly. My girlfriend had to get puberty blockers from early puberty due to cancer treatment.

[@DinosaurNick]

Hormone blockers are used on underage kids who started puberty too early. But yet if it's trans kids, they want to cry "It's dangerous" Hormones are used on people of all ages to help with imbalances. My childhood friend used hormones from age 9-10 because he was underdeveloped for his age. He was shorter than everyone else and late on hitting puberty as he got older. The hormones helped correct this. Yet if trans people need hormones "It's dangerous"

[@rhymerlegend2717]

Because trans people are given them to stop healthy normal puberty. You all really should use more than one brain cell

[@TheQueenofNeckbeards]

@@rhymerlegend2717it’s not healthy if it’s causing extreme distress to the individual, natal puberty for a trans person is literally irreversible damage, the only counter y’all bring up to this is a dumbfuck appeal to nature fallacy.

[@DavisJ-ln6fw]

@@rhymerlegend2717 It's not normal or healthy if your trans. I question if you have more then one brain cell.

[@therealdeal3837]

Yes, hormone blockers are used on underage kids who started puberty too early. It is dangerous for kids who were going to start puberty at a normal age. You seem to entirely ignore this simple concept.

[@DinosaurNick]

@@therealdeal3837 And you seem to lack evidence as every source I went to disagrees with you. Also literally everything is dangerous. I'm on supplement pills, for example. And if I miss taking them ... or take too many ... I could end up in ICU

[@differentdestiny]

I had a breat reduction at 17 because it made my back pains so bad and i was genuinely so uncomfortable. I wore hoodies no matter the temperature..... In texas. While it was technically considered cosmetic, it was necessary and 1000% made my life better in every way. The only reason they were slightly hesitant on allowing me to get the surgery was because there was no guarantee that they wouldn't keep growing.

[@fee6362]

Thanks for saying that we shouldn't make fun of people who get cosmetic surgery, even when it's "Dumb" People who do this, don't hurt anyone, and it is a sad thing that people feel such a discontent with their body, such a distress and pain, that they feel they need such surgeries. Of course I would advice against such surgeries before hand, however, it is simply not our place to judge people for the decisions they make, as long they don't hurt people. And frankly, I don't feel the way, people feel who undergo such surgeries, - but that's the point. I can say, what they are feeling, but I understand, it is complicated and hard for them. And sure it seems unrationell , ( and probably is) but that shows who much pain it causes. we should criticizes the system (or whatever caused them to feel that way,) not people who suffer,

[@kenigma4303]

Matt Walsh, don’t ever disrespect me looking like a marionette from Team America World Police, ya heard.

[@wesleybrock315]

Right now at this very moment there are veterans being advised in a similar fashion to what is seen here in order to obtain care from the VA or benefits. This kind of coaching is ubiquitous with in our systems and is not considered wrong at all. So this is a big nothing burger.

[@bradm6287]

Basically Matt Walsh Saying "Freedom sucks, Authoritarianism good" and all the right-wingers that used the champion freedom (when it was about things they like) clapping like walruses.

[@Genethitami]

As intersex who had to undergo pretty severe surgery at birth to even live and then was on HRT around puberty, I can say that "gender affirming care" is pretty freaking important thing to exist and ideally be covered by insurance.

[@artyomgr8]

it's not like they chop the balls off within 20 minutes- you still need a 2nd letter usually, you need to have been on hrt for a year usually, and you also still have to actually have the consultation and schedule/wait for surgery date.

[@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty]

This is quite literally saying you don't have any right to any medical care unless you want to "prove it" EVERY TIME. Like imagine telling your doctor "hey man I think I have the flu, I have all the symptoms I've had previously with it so what medicine can I buy for it again?" And them denying you that information because you haven't been tested enough to find the specific strain. In this clip the guy was lying his ass off to get a surgery he didn't want to prove something to twitter, are doctors just supposed to assume everyone is doing that all the time?? And are they supposed to assume responsibility for that behavior instead of the adult whose doing that?? This shit is why it takes an average of 10 years to get diagnosed with endometriosis, people trying to make it harder for others to get sex-related treatments "incase they're lying/confused". This is straight up denying people medical autonomy. You have no right to what happens to your body unless you can "throughly prove" you need it/want it to absolutely everyone with that mentality. And that can lead them to saying you need to "throughly prove" you don't as well, see the 10 year old abortion case.

[@jimbob498]

What a completely stupid rant....

[@katyamcadams]

​@@jimbob498 bro, you don't like it, don't read it

[@hunterm8516]

Tbh it kinda fucks with me when other trans people are like ‘oh our surgeries are NECESSARY and GOOD and NOT COSMETIC unlike those cis people who are just fucking around for the hell of it they don’t NEED these things like WE do’ cause like. I’m nonbinary, and I want top surgery. In my case it would absolutely be cosmetic- I’m not in distress about my chest I just think I would like it better if I got top surgery. There isn’t a clear line between trans surgeries which are always life saving and necessary and cis surgeries which are cosmetic and stupid or whatever, we’re all on a spectrum and we’re all looking for the medical care which will help us feel the best.

[@hunterm8516]

ALSO that’s the kind of thing this social worker is talking about- if I eventually get a consult, I fully expect whoever writes my recommendation to play up the severity of my dysphoria to get it covered by insurance, because if they said ‘oh they just kinda want to do it’ then it wouldn’t work.

[@Llewellyon]

Just to add my two cents, as a trans person, gender dysphoria for trans people is generally not from societal standards regarding appearance. It is something internal that we deal with, likely due to some brain development that happened in the womb, wherein certain aspects of our body cause us extreme distress. We don't get gender affirming care to fit in, but to alleviate this distress.

[@slv2386]

I agree with this so much. I understand why people are trying to make this argument but it's so frustrating. Insecurity and dysphoria are not the same thing. Saying "it's exactly the same" is just not true. Cis men don't get leg lengthening because they have an entire lifetime of being told they are a woman/girl and are doing something to feel more like a man. Trans people don't start from the same point. We have a lot of complex reasons for getting surgery, and not being the stereotypical attractiveness and being insecure is very different than crippling dysphoria.

[@APairOfOldSkoolVans]

I think societal standards play a big part. If we all decided that men should dye their hair green then trans me like me would be dysphoric about our hair colour

[@willowwisp357]

Gatekeepers probably screen out 90% + of people who would transition. It sometimes takes decades as an adult just to get permission to go on HRT.

[@AlxParrish]

The real question is, where DID Matt Walsh go for that kind of speedy surgical fast track for his orchiectomy? Everybody should be able to do what they want to their bodies no matter what.

[@rhymerlegend2717]

So you should be able to chop off your own arm? Wouldn’t you WANT to stop someone from purposefully harming themselves?

[@AlxParrish]

@@rhymerlegend2717 Absolutely. If it's consensual. Bodily autonomy is the starting point of freedom. We can trust adults to make decisions regarding their bodies

[@rhymerlegend2717]

@@AlxParrish 😂

[@rhymerlegend2717]

@@AlxParrish if a person has the desire to chop off their own arm they need mental help, not do nothing and let them harm themselves!

[@bareq99]

@@rhymerlegend2717 you're comparing apples and oranges One improves health One proves you're a maniac Don't listen to what OP said If someone wants to chop off their hand they they absolutely need help And that doesn't compare to trans Healthcare where bottom surgery is overly positive (not to mention that you aren't coping it.. You're replacing it's usage)

[@StephMcAlea]

Csn Plume Clinic sue Matt Walsh for saying its a "scam"? Thats defamation.

[@andrewduff2048]

Nikki Haley said that mastectomies are irreversible which is hilariously wrong. Women have been getting double mastectomies, during the treatment of breast cancer and to prevent cancer in some high risk people, then getting breast reconstruction surgery for decades. I guess you wouldn't be able to breast feed but that doesn't seem like a huge problem. Why isn't it enough to say unneeded surgery is bad and we should try to avoid them in all cases.

[@EmpireGamingWynter]

This debate is interesting to me as a European. Here the NHS does cover cosmetic care such as gender affirming care or boob jobs. It's understood here that people's perceptions of themselves can affect their mental health in a big way so a lot of cosmetic surgery or care is deemed the same as needed healthcare and is covered

[@lloroshastar6347]

Fascism is a bit further along in the US, but it's encroaching. Even the drag queen panic is starting to infect us, even though drag has been part of entertainment here for literal centuries.

[@EmpireGamingWynter]

@Oni Baba absolutely. No disagreements from me at all. And they lack so much self awareness when Paul O'Grady died and everyone said RIP to him and said his drag act was their childhood and then in the next breath says drag acts shouldn't be anywhere near kids 🤷‍♂️

[@lloroshastar6347]

@@EmpireGamingWynter I can't count the number of drag acts I grew up with there were so many, and some are still mainstream like Mrs Brown's Boys (although I can't pretend I'm a fan of that but only because of the quality). From a young age I was introduced to Eddie Izzard, nothing 'sexual' about their act whatsoever, the most age inappropriate thing they did was say 'fuck'. Obviously Eddie (Suzy) is trans not drag but it did open my eyes to the world of cross dressing and gender fluidity. Grew up watching drag performances in League of Gentlemen, Mighty Boosh, just about every single British sketch show, Little Britain, Blackadder, loads more. Then there is panto of course, which happens in multiple towns and cities every single year and was never attacked by the right-wing over here. I'm getting sick of US culture war crap being forced on us! It's nothing to do with us, they should leave it over there where it belongs, or better still get rid of it entirely and stop pretending they aren't just looking for excuses to be homophobic.

[@Palemagpie]

I approve anyone associated with Mat Walsh's show having their testicles removed. Infact, i insist on it.

[@Dessikka]

You have to have a psych eval to qualify for weight loss surgery, too, to make sure you're capable of dealing emotionally with a the impacts. Insurance won't cover it without it.

[@wintergray1221]

I did not know that, but it makes sense. You're changing an internal part of yourself forever, your eating habits and lifestyle altered far more drastically than cutting calories and exercising more often.

[@bobasaurusrexy]

Literally spent a week with a trans woman that said she preferred the term ’lady boy’ and hated the term ‘trans woman.’ Wonderful woman and enjoyed the time we spent together. She definitely has some opinions I didn’t expect.

[@preevetElizabeth]

Also because mat Walsh doesn't understand the gender dysphoria diagnosis The line means signs of gender dysphoria that are older than 6 months It's not like you had to experience it for 6 months straight and if you missed a day in the middle you have to restart, that's not how it works!

[@ExpertBustice]

L take at 12:10 Short guys aren't getting clocked as women for being short, they are being clocked as short men. People don't see a short man and immediately assume they are a woman. If they did it would be the same thing because that would destroy their desire to engage with the world--like transwomen without FFS--but again that's not the case.

[@slv2386]

YES 👏👏 no one thinks cis men who are 5'4" are women. No one things cis women with B cups are men. It's such a silly argument.

[@DavisJ-ln6fw]

Your not getting the argument both are surgeries treatment people use to alter there appearance to ease an issue.

[@DavisJ-ln6fw]

@@slv2386 Again both things are surgeries people use to deal with an issue. So no the argument totally works.

[@josh216DS]

People with excessively large breast will sometimes get them reduced to make it more comfortable on their body. Thats a cosmetic surgery that has a direct affect on their mental health and well-being.

[@sothisisbasicallyhow4696]

Local man shocked to discover the healthcare system provides people with healthcare

[@DavisJ-ln6fw]

In other news water is wet.

[@theana5550]

The difference between men getting leg lengthening surgery and trans women getting facial feminization surgery is that these cis men had a male puberty, and their height is a part of their maleness, whereas, for trans women, their face is only that way because they went through the wrong puberty. For the cis men, they were supposed to be short; it was how they developed as men. For trans women, their faces weren't supposed to be masculinized.

[@beesus1412]

has matt walsh ever had any medical procedure ever? most doctors i've gone to are like "yeah this medication isn't exactly made for your condition but it's used off label for this so just don't worry if insurance gives you shit, just say it's for this other thing and they'll get it for you"

[@martindorn3983]

Matt Ballsh

[@greenbackjack768]

True (real)

[@EternalDensity]

Mess Walsh: "I've been taking estrogen for a year and no one stopped me, transgenderism OWNED!!"

[@donnamurphy8551]

What about male infant circumcision? That seems like what they should be focused on. It’s far more prevalent, and unnecessary.