Matthew Doesn't Trust Mary | Downton Abbey

[@briancarter8490]

The servants in this show do a lot more in this show than most people would think.

[@inannaenigma9391]

It’s pretty much Upstairs/Downstairs but with a gay butler instead of a lesbian maid.

[@lepolhart3242]

The thing that makes me laugh is that people watch Downton Abbey thinking it's realistic. No way in real life would Lady Mary come downstairs half dressed to address the servants in such a casual way. She would have summoned Carson upstairs and asked him to ask the servants downstairs about the letter.

[@jehannethompson1432]

Lepol Hart lol

[@artdecotimes2942]

@@lepolhart3242 and I suppose you would know how a lady would do her work by your studies of what you think they write. What assumptions are you to know? Did you read "Dear diary, today like most days, I must ask my servants to help, but I am in my undergarments and therefore it will prove useless in desire to address them; I must ask the Chauffeur to come around so that I may enquire the butler on the recent problem."

[@lepolhart3242]

@@artdecotimes2942 I'm going by what the historians in articles and documentaries I've seen have said. I've also been to many guided tours of historical houses in the UK (as I live there) and the tour guides told us how the upper classes and their servants lived. Everything was formal and there were clear barriers between the family and their servants which were not crossed. These large houses had bells in each room which would be rung and were connected to the servants hall so the servants would be called up to whatever room the family were in.

[@downtonviewer]

...and that's how Daisy, the scullery maid, saved a great aristocratic family from ruin.

[@readsomebooks666]

Kitchen maid.

[@alicegoolden809]

downtonviewer daisy was a scullery maid in the first and second seasons and then became a kitchen maid after the war

[@paterpatriae645]

the family, her job, the job of all others and probably the whole village ^^

[@susannestein3955]

I always thought Daisy forged the letter, but I don't know how I thought that would be possible. I mean, she had no knowledge of anything, but Daisy's behavior just seemed so off.

[@KoiYakultGreenTea]

Susanne Stein that’s why it’s a shock that if all people daisy was The lynchpin to it all. She is so overlooked and unremarkable. She just happened to be tending to things, and she is supposed to be invisible when she works. But it also shows that Lavinia was someone who noticed her and asked her help. On both sides it is a beautiful thing of happenstance and that Lavinia was a kind soul that daisy also wanted to help. Even the Sven of them discovering who posted it daisy was not in the room at all. She’s overlooked even by the staff who knows it’s her job to be in that room. But mrs Hughes asking why she had to tell her that she had posted it shows that there is a chain of command and communication that often misses the small things like the scullery maid talking with Lavinia and her asking her just to put her mail in the post as a simple favour would be overlooked.

[@jennyrayman2505]

I wanted to hug daisy when she said to Ms Hughes.."Tell you wa't?"...pure innocent sweet girl

[@AmiNa-nw5ld]

Her name fits her perfectly

[@medusagorgon9]

Mary, SHOW her how much! They could have set Daisy up for life! Paid for schooling or some training/trade. Words mean very little when you do very little. Thankfully her father-in-law took care of her.

[@12classics39]

That shows how Mary was still prejudiced by the class system.

[@gumnaamaadmi007]

Old habits die hard. Why throw money at people lesser than you when mere words will suffice?

[@connellwalker7873]

Daisy comes through again! What great writing this is. So many people and factors contribute to keeping great house alive.

[@georgeprchal3924]

Matthew: (still angry) That's it I'm sleeping on the couch! Mary: (confused) Which "couch"? Mathew: (rings the bell) Carson could you have some of the footmen move a sofa into a separate bedroom please?

[@elenavs8703]

Hahhah could have happened but instead he would have gone to his room (the husband and the wife in upper class families had two different bedrooms)

[@cheetahinireland18]

Definitely Matthew at his MOST self-righteous lol

[@fish-fingers_and_custard7685]

That pout from Dan Stevens in the thumbnail 👌🏻

[@__seeker__]

“I am grateful to you, Daisy. You cannot know how much.” Put your money where your mouth is, Lady.

[@trainman665]

Not her money to give.

[@nathanlatham5651]

@@trainman665lady Mary’s got a couple pounds lying around dude

[@gerardcollins6621]

To be frank, Matthew was right, the likelihood of all these things coming together to a perfect conclusion so that can claim the money is just too perfect to be true.

[@pneron2032]

That's why it's a TV show.

[@therra1101]

Oh yes, it was a very soap operaish conclusion.

[@12classics39]

It is unlikely, but it’s still somewhat plausible. Lavinia probably knew there was a chance she might not recover from her illness and naturally wanted to be sure her father knew all the details of what had happened. Also, Lavinia’s father knew Matthew well enough to realize that he’d probably feel guilty; since we never met him, we can assume from his letter that he was the kind of person who left no stone unturned. Still, Downton is a show that you watch for high quality entertainment, not logic. There are very few TV shows that have much logic, after all.

[@ayushsahu315]

@@pneron2032 Don't tell Matthew that. He'll never get over the shock.

[@annyspb1]

Lovely! Thank you for posting this! I had been hoping that I'd find a clip of Mary telling Matthew that if he hadn't changed his mind she would've beaten him around the head, but the rest is great. Thanks again.

[@thekingsdaughter4233]

I've just watched that! It's in one clip called, "Lady Mary apologizes to Lady Edith", or something like that. :-)

[@annyspb1]

@@thekingsdaughter4233 It is the beginning of that clip, who knows why? Many thanks- the whole clip is called Lady Mary apologizes, but it's nothing at all about her apologizing - weird! It's mostly about the beginning of Edith's wedding with Anthony with Strallan - no sense at all! I was impressed with Downton Abbey's postings at first, but ...

[@martinmitchell7280]

All I can say is I hope Daisy got a pay rise or a bonus after this - she saved the Crawley family from ruin.

[@ellenrittgers990]

Everyone loves Matthew, but he could be a real doofus, too!

[@barbaral743]

I can't imagine what level of trivia the servants were to report to Mrs Hughes or Mr Carson. Lavinia asked Daisy to post a letter and she did it, amongst the other 1000 things she had to do that day.

[@readsomebooks666]

Oh he’s just being stubborn. I can’t tell you how often I’ve had arguments like this.

[@m.layfette6249]

The MAIN arguments between married couples are (and in No particular order), Money, Sex, and Parenting. Feel free to add extra....

[@stephaniejane306]

@@m.layfette6249 I'm gonna add in-laws

[@misombra]

@@m.layfette6249 Housekeeping

[@m.layfette6249]

Add Cheating to the list. Alongside Romance, a lack thereof to the list as well.

[@m.layfette6249]

@@stephaniejane306 On both sides.

[@xtxpxhx]

Aww I still miss Mathew 😭😭

[@kalyan6045]

When Dan Stevens was Chubby 😀😀

[@eughanbadli5269]

I prefer him this way

[@solmartel360]

Eughan Badli same! He looks completely different in real life because he’s so slim!

[@dobazajr]

He is trying to get out of Matthew's looks. He has to change and grows facial hair.

[@marigold6920]

I don't know how Matthew didn't lose all respect for Mary grasping at his dead fiance's money.

[@marigold6920]

@@i.wyvernortham Yes. I understand you point of view. But I ways felt that Lavinia lost the will to live after seeing Mary and Matthew in a romantic embrace earlier that night. She may have overcome the flu and survived it if she not lost the will to live. I appreciated Matthew's conscience in the matter. But I suppose the letter cleared the matter up a little.

[@cremebrulee4759]

@@marigold6920 that isn't Mary's fault.

[@cremebrulee4759]

Mary was desperate to save Downton Abbey. I don't blame her for doing whatever she possibly could to achieve that goal. Saving Downton Abbey was preserving it for their children.

[@12classics39]

He knew that money was Downton’s only hope, and thus Mary’s only hope, as it was her duty to protect Downton.

[@jm1657]

Pouty!Matthew always made me chuckle. The scowling 😆

[@dannyruiz3329]

I don’t see why people love Mary so much. She always loved money and class than anything else. Even when Matthew was at risk of no longer being the heir, she pulled away from him and tried to go her own way. She’s always looking for position; Matthew was a convenient choice. Sybill was the best of them, but Edith was second. Mary was a class A bitch.

[@marialewis6432]

And THAT'S why we LOVE Mary...honest, no holds barred, and impeccable acting by Michelle Dockery

[@dannyruiz3329]

Maria Lewis you love a class A selfish bitch...Mmmkk

[@suzannereilman4516]

...she was OFTEN a self-centered beee-yotch, but in this matter, she was both pragmatic,, AND right...Matthew made pathetic excuse after excuse and really didn’t have any substance behind any of them...

[@stonem0013]

coz she's pretty

[@windyanros]

that's exactly why, Mary acts like real people in life, with a nice and emotional side, but also a temper and selfish side. what's important here is that she's honest and straight with her personality, she doesn't lie nor try to be kinder than she looks, she believes what she thinks and express it without being shy. Mary's point of view is sometimes not very humane and kindness, but it is always true and useful in real life, she is not stupidly confident.

[@spencerfrankclayton4348]

Matthew was too good for Mary. Most of the time, she is an entitled spoiled brat who has to control everything and everyone.

[@malinhessedahl]

♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@suzannereilman4516]

...not for nothing, but even WITH learning that Daisy DID mail Lavinia’s letter to her Dad, Reggie, Matthew STILLLLL grasped for excuses to not accept the inheritance, to not use it..weak AF and indecisive...pathetic...!

[@roroellies8188]

That is not weak nor indecisive. That is called feeling guilty and having a moral. As he should.

[@holzlesamuel]

I remember it was daisy

[@ABirdOnTheMoon]

I still think it’s unfair for Matthew to receive that money.

[@marialewis6432]

The man chose to do what he wanted with his own $$

[@jehannethompson1432]

Maria Lewis Exactly. Lavinia was the one who wanted him to have the money. And Reggie Swire knew what happened. So Matthew was just being stubborn and punishing other people.

[@themermaidstale5008]

@@jehannethompson1432 And most likely punishing himself; I feel certain he felt a lot of guilt regarding Lavinia.

[@ABirdOnTheMoon]

@@jehannethompson1432 well .. he broke her heart and she loved him but he couldn’t love her which is the source of his guilt. The worst is how cold Mary is about it all as if she didn’t kiss the dead woman’s fiancé .. confess her feelings and try to see if he still has feelings .. then wanted to take her money to save her own state

[@SandraStranger]

Matthew was very cruel to Mary at Lavinia bed and at the funeral if I was Mary I would of gone to America even when they were married he still kept on about Lavinia he should of died with Lavinia with the flu he did say he wouldn't be happy with out her so he obviously didn't love Mary

[@hpavalferr7201]

😂 💚

[@lisabloemers4084]

Liars

[@CompelledUsername]

Honestly, I hate this show. Any good work it did in humanising those with unearned privileges, it undone in moments like this.

[@jerryadams2191]

😎📺✌✌💎

[@libialarapozada7416]

Cuando en español ...snif snif

[@Catnip2011]

This a a woman's show, making women the smarties & men the stupid/stubborn ones. It must be broadcast during hours when men are at work & the housewives sitting at home "working" in front of the TV & chucking on bon-bons.

[@BTMmarineLM]

Great now all I can picture is Peggy Bundy!

[@JixieDyeAuthor]

That sounds a bit bitter, correct me if I'm wrong

[@BlancheNeigefan]

It's not 1950 anymore. Virtually all women are employed, although they still face disproportionate amounts of house work, the "second shift" when they come home, unlike men. After Matthew was presented as being in the right in his courtship of Mary, Tom taught Sybil about socialism and Irish occupation and tells off Mary in the last episode, and Robert constantly tells of Isobel, Rosamund and Miss Bunting, I can't imagine how you got to this perspective about Downton Abbey.

[@rtab722]

This is oversimplification and hatred incitement. Please don't put it this way.

[@blablub7269]

For some reason this comment really made my day lol