ASUS Vivobook S 15 + Snapdragon X Elite: Is It Good?

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[@MatthewMoniz]

What do you guys think of the new Snapdragon X Elite / ASUS Vivobook S 15?

[@NootNoot.]

Great video Matthew! I think a lot of ppl will dislike the X Elite based on it's short term faults. If it's adopted well and Qualcomm figures outs it's legal battle with Arm, it'll definitely mature. I think it's a borderline good laptop. It does what it's supposed to do and that is to be an efficiency machine. Your review and conclusion is the best out there. If you use your laptop with what's seen in your review, it's a good buy, anything else, just may have to wait or see future AMD or Intel offerings. To me it doesn't really blow out even current AMD and Intel offerings, but there's nothing to hate on the X Elite as some other folks may blast it on. That said, I'd like to see you do the unplugged tests with the upcoming AMD and Intel products or just a head to head battle altogether by the end of this year. Oh and of course maybe make note of tdp and Wh as many laptop vendors decide this just so viewers are aware. Then again most idle and regular battery use time should be similar unless the laptop vendor royally screws it up

[@Kalaerospace]

Nice rewiew ! Can we open it with one hand ?

[@akin242002]

Good option for console gamers or those people who do not game at all (yes they exist). The battery life seems closer to M1 Pro level than M3 Pro level. Still a huge improvement and significantly lower price than a new MacBook.

[@sk0mi]

Nah man, you lost me at Photoshop being graphically intensive...

[@MatthewMoniz]

@@sk0mi It uses the CPU alot. Loves RAM but its definitely gpu intensive when applying filters and plugins.

[@akin242002]

AMD & Intel just took a deep sigh of relief. The gaming industry is still in their control. Same for other X86 software that doesn't run well through an emulator software.

[@WeeeAffandi]

Capcom and Ubisoft releasing Resident Evil and Assassin's creed for iOS could be something that's coming to ARM on Windows as well.

[@josephle2381]

Arm never did well with gaming we all knew that lol. The only people claiming arm is going to make x86 dead are apple fanboys hyping up their architecture for no damn reason😭

[@elalemanpaisa]

As you see the intel laptops are even outperforming these chips in batterylife. Arm is overrated especially as it needs more ram always

[@RichWithTech]

​@@elalemanpaisa they need "more RAM", is this because they may require multiple instructions to correspond to one CISC? Or did you mean that Prism uses extra RAM?

[@elalemanpaisa]

@@RichWithTech the former with which are exactly right. Actually that was the reason why ARM failed 30 years ago because ram was so slow and the CPUs werte starving which isn't a problem much anymore. Arm does work well in low performance devices however if you stress your device batterylife might even be worse. We will see where we are in 5 years. Intel moving to more advanced notes and bigLittle designs might be keep Arm on their toes for while

[@lakshay8363]

I think people in comments are forgetting that screen is 15.6" with 3K resolution OLED panel with 120hz Refresh rate, not with 60 Hz and with 1080 or 1440p screen. Factor in these differences and you will get your result.

[@cynicist8114]

Yes exactly. To really compare the difference, you would need otherwise identical laptops that come with Intel or Qualcomm chips. I don't think the other integrated graphics options would do much better.

[@yassineaqallal8167]

Agree with your comment! Though I think that in his tests he does lower acreen refresh rate to 60hz. At least that's what I see in most battery benchmarks.

[@lakshay8363]

@@cynicist8114 maybe comparing macbook air with LCD surface will be close enough but same specs with ram and SSD will make the macbook way more expensive than any other snapdragon laptop

[@lakshay8363]

@@yassineaqallal8167 well even with the 60 Hz, OLED consume more power than LCD so size is also bigger so... let's wait till all the updates are here

[@p3rrypm]

So drop it to 60 Hz, OLED should be more efficient, and the MacBooks are not usually 1440P, they’re closer to 3K. If they can’t get up near 18 Hours on Battery, then it is a good improvement, but not as good as the MacBook. To be fair, the lower end MacBook can only manage about 18 TOPs with the NPU and the base on this is somewhere around 40 TOPs.

[@abdulsadiq8873]

sticker guy buying his first yatch this year

[@MatthewMoniz]

sticker guy living in Bora bora

[@brokenhero6828]

@@MatthewMonizI love the sticker lore with this channel. That and the few times you used to say “pound” “this thing pounds” when reviewing laptops me and my friends used to crack jokes 😂

[@dkb2k]

Awesome! That’s for being the first to drop a video like this around the X Elite!

[@kenil_patel]

bro. I was waiting for someone to drop the video since 2 days.

[@jadenisiah]

Hes not the first at all lol, there are much smaller channels who have done it before him

[@metamon2704]

Seems like the 'influencer' type youtubers got this to review first.

[@ivangr3470]

Another one posted sooner kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2Gap5-fopubns0si=ZfByYGkLKYjG9CdC

[@Steve.._.]

​@@metamon2704yes more eyes to teach/sell means you can jump the line

[@vincelongman3264]

Note for light workloads the display has an equally important impact as SoC The Zenbook 14 (Ultra 7 155H) has a 14" 2880x1800 120Hz OLED (with a 75WHr battery) The Vivobook S 15 (X Elite X1E 78) has a 15.6" 2880x1800 120Hz OLED (with a 70WHr battery) The Vivobook S 14 (Ultra 9 185H) has a 14" 1920x1200 60Hz OLED (with a 75WHr battery) The Ultra 9 185H vs Ultra 7 155H should have almost negligible difference in efficiency, the difference is the displays Hence the Vivobook S 14/Ultra 9 185H has the longest battery life because it has a larger 7% larger battery and a smaller display that's less power hungry (lower resolution & frame rate) The Zenbook 14 vs Vivobook S 15 is the fairer comparison due to the display specs The Vivobook S 15/X Elite has about 32% longer battery life despite the slightly larger display & slightly smaller battery

[@longdang2681]

A fairer comparison would be the Samsung SDx 16 inch versus the Samsung Intel 16 inch with nvidia 40 series GPU. The Intel should only have a slight disadvantage after optimus shutting off the Nvidia GPU in light workloads. Samsung claims the same 22 hrs battery life but the SDx version uses a smaller 62WHr battery versus 74WHr on the Intel. If proven to be representative, then that gives the SDx about 20% battery life advantage.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😮

[@NeelBjorn]

Hey Matthew , Thanks for considering my request and showing the webcam samples in natural lighting :) It really helps. Thankyou :)

[@MatthewMoniz]

My pleasure!

[@Raidhonr]

Thanks for the honest review!

[@MatthewMoniz]

Always!

[@obvinpro]

This is a wrong review bro, This is a MacBook Air competitor, and you're talking about gaming? I want a price to performance comparison between this, MacBook Air and equivalent intel and AMD PC. Most of the target users are students and light users. We want battery life test, and what it's like to use regular business apps. Edited: Seen Dave2D video, and I'm satisfied now. Thank you.

[@destructodisk9074]

Bro this is their “Elite” chip and it has active cooling. The MacBook Air runs Apples tablet chip and has no fan. The MacBook Air GPU crushes the Elite’s GPU. The MacBook Air running CrossOver is compatible with more Windows games than this Windows chip is compatible with. This is a complete embarrassment. Seek safety in Dave’s video if you must, but this whole marketing hype was a dud. If the Elite is supposed to be a base M competitor, than what is the Plus competing with? A Phone CPU? 😂

[@bjorn2625]

I know, it’s super weird. “I bought a new bicycle - but I’m really unhappy with it because it’s not a Ferrari!” For the millions of students who just need a laptop to do college work with, this is a vast implement over an x86 laptop.

[@les_crow]

​@@destructodisk9074That doesn't mean anything. It's the elite among a line of bicycles. Stop asking it to do Ferrari stuff.

[@52incredible]

​@@destructodisk9074idk what you talking about, this thing absolutely crushes the macbook air while being cheaper and apparently no heating problems.

[@destructodisk9074]

@@les_crow Ferrari stuff? This is the "Elite" series in their laptop chip line up. They have a "Plus" version below that. All we are asking is for them to keep up. M4 is a tablet fanless chip, not a Ferrari and it beats this Elite that has a cooler.. M3 Pro destroys this thing and is a mid range chip, not a Ferrari. M3 Max is is upper midrange not a Ferrari and it seems Qualcomm is a decade behind that. M2 Ultra is the Ferrari. Qualcomm is getting beaten by all 4 levels of Apple Silicon, on Qualcomms highest end chip they can produce. Qualcomm had a decade head start and they still bring this to market with a 50% battery life hit on x86 emulation and terrible x86 app and game compatibility. Apple launched M1 with no battery life hit and near 100% compatibility with x86 Mac apps. DOn't need a Ferrari.. they had a huge head start, just asking the bare minimum to keep up with a tablet chip on their highest tier laptop chip. Asking that Mustang beat a Ford Fiesta. But I guess that is too much to ask.

[@cerioo]

People here is forgetting that these PCs were never supposed to be Gaming laptops. Never

[@nakdickson]

Exactly. I like his reviews. He's one of my favorites. But I believe he got it wrong here. I believe this PC is meant for productivity rather than gaming.

[@cerioo]

@@nakdickson also he did not specify the SUK of the cpu. There are at least three different version of the X Elite, with important differences

[@1Selfinvest1]

Whatever I was hoping more than 15+ battery life .. gaming not included ... False claim. ... From Qualcomm

[@MatthewMoniz]

@@nakdickson The point of the gaming was to show app incompatibility which I summarize at the end of the video. Yes, its not a gaming laptop but Qualcomm made a big deal about gaming and its important we point it out. But yes if you live in a world where apps are optimized for ARM you'll love this thing.

[@NootNoot.]

That's a bit dishonest in itself as they marketed that it can play games. They've even made a feature for 'AI' upscaling for gaming so to say they don't want ppl to play games on the X Elite is kinda absurd considering Windows is the OS to play games (or at least use to). 'Gaming' by your terms may not be Cyberpunk or Helldivers but the top percent of the most played games like WoW, LoL, Valorant, CS2, Dota, Overwatch, any e-sport game should be really good, also considering you have a 120hz screen, I'm sure QC would want a share of the average PC gaming market if it can

[@WeeeAffandi]

2:28 So the battery is worse than the intel ultra 9 ?? I'm not sure if I should be disappointed by Snapdragon or be impressed by Intel. Edit: The Ultra 9 laptop has 7% larger battery along with a low powered 60Hz 1200p 14inch display meanwhile the Snapdragon laptop has a 120 Hz 3K display. Great video by Matthew as always, thou I wish he had cleared this in the video.

[@sydguitar99]

Probably disappointed in Snapdragon

[@AleWebCreate]

Again... Apple is on anoyher planet with M chip notebook and their battery life

[@itsmilan4069]

​@@sydguitar99nah we should be disappointed at asus

[@sydguitar99]

@@itsmilan4069 it's an SoC so there's really not much they can do to it.

[@Aaron-cc7yq]

That's the 1st thing I noticed!?! I thought that was supposed to be the main point of these new chips!? I just bought an asus with the ultra core 7 and it lasts me all day with only charging it to 80% in the morning so I'm super happy with this new Intel chip rn, but I thought snapdragon was supposed to get like 20 hours or something like that?

[@billymania11]

Most of us know Qualcomm was trying to get their Elite chip out in the field early. They know Intel and AMD are going to be releasing very capable chips in the fall and into the beginning of next year. My take is that the Elite chip is pretty decent right now but will become roadkill as we cruise into the latter part of this year.

[@Son37Lumiere]

Agreed. Strix Point and likely Lunar Lake will be faster with comparable or not far behind battery life. Not to mention the performance of the X Elite's iGPU isn't even close to the 780m. That lead will only widen considerably with the new 890m.

[@ryanspencer6778]

Yeah, if Snapdragon struggles to compete with current AMD and Intel on performance and efficiency, then they're going to be DOA when Strix Point and especially Lunar Lake arrive.

[@RyanUniverseZ]

​@@Son37Lumiere True But at that point 8 Gen 4 will be launched, you might think what's the correlation? Here the iGpu on the XElite is apparent just a Modified Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 Adreno 740 GPU Overclocked with more executors, If Qualcomm moves to Adreno 8 series with the 8 Gen 4 and they used a modified version of that on the XElite Gen 2 it's gonna be a pretty hefty bump Adreno 750 was already 37% faster than the 8 Gen 2 while being more efficient so there's no reason to think why the XElite Gen 2 performed will be nothing short of explosive compared to Gen 1 Source - Geekerwan

[@Son37Lumiere]

@@RyanUniverseZ The X Elite's GPU is about half as fast as the 780m, the 890m is a good 35% faster than the 780m. Plus most games are written for x86 and there is a significant performance penalty using the Windows ARM to x86 emulator. Even if the Adreno 750 on the next updated CPU is 37% faster it will still be much slower. It may compete better with Intel's Arc xe2 on Lunar Lake though, as that GPU (while showing equivalent performance to the 780m in 3dmark) is actually much slower in most real world games.

[@25eazi]

As more apps become optimized for the processor it will get better. My surface pro 11 will arrive today!! 🎉🎉🎉

[@smileynoreally]

What about music production software like Ableton, FL Studio? How do they run?

[@ohwhatworld5851]

Thank you for putting the laptop specs at the start of the video mate :) . I'm glad the chip seems to be living up to the hype. The more competition we have the better.

[@techinrl9869]

These Snapdragon Windows machines feel like running a beta, even though it’s a release version. A lot of things just don’t work or they run sluggishly. It doesn’t pay to be an early adopter for this since there’s hardly any native ARM software. I’d check back in a year to see if things have improved.

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

Partnered with Asus.... I mean this is all KZbin is anymore and is a bunch of commercials.

[@Magnus5757]

It’s beyond build quality and specs. It’s their *worst in the world customer service* that you should consider before buying. Thank me later if I saved you.

[@bryans8656]

Thanks Matt, I've been looking forward to your review on one of these.

[@MatthewMoniz]

No problem!

[@Blovmag]

Why is this review the opposite of D2D review? Dave made it sound like this laptop is the greatest of all time I'm seeing many compromises and deal-breakers

[@andyH_England]

Dave2D was selling it on price rather than performance and efficiency. It is reasonable priced but not as value-oriented as Dave made out.

[@danishsohail8852]

Dave is talking about value to money and this laptop definitely is best value to money. Plus Dave managed to run games on it. 😅

[@theonevoid-hw9xu]

@@Kratos30000 im honestly not sure if u hv ever watched any of his videos before

[@nakdickson]

Became Dave2D reviewed it by productivity standards. Not gaming. This guy on the other hand is talking about gaming. Which this pc obviously wasn't geared towards.

[@Son37Lumiere]

@@danishsohail8852 Dave was wrong on value though, you can get laptops with an 8840HS or better for well under $1000, which will give you 90% of the CPU performance of the X Elite and much faster iGPU performance. Only downside is less battery life.

[@user-sk4gj3ji3o]

Great review

[@MatthewMoniz]

Thanks!

[@julianferrari99]

I just recently bought the vivobook s15 2024, just the ryzen 7 8845hs version... I make a quick review just for you guys to know... good points: -The keyboard is really confortable for typing, I can't miss a thing. -The trackpad is huge. -The screen is the best I've ever had, and the 120hz make the difference. -the performarce is great, not laggy at all. -the battery is decent, performs for 7/8 of constant no stop use if you multitask. Browsing and media consuming at 120hz and screen at max brightness. -the camera is good. -the weight is perfect and all the computer feels like a solid piece. -myasus software has good things to setup, even mic deactivation Bad points: -The trackpad is mechanic and it feels weird when you click it sometimes, for a notebook of this price should be haptic. -The keyboard despite being good for typing the material feels sticky and somehow plastic. -the copilot button doesn't even open the app lol (but maybe thats something that can be changed in the configuration) -the grey colour laptop feels cheapier than the blue one, if you can get that one. -the battery is not as good as they claim I just hope it doesn't deteriorate bad with time. -the sound has good quality, but not with music. Overall a good pc, I picked at 989 euros.

[@MrAdhiSuryana]

13hrs of battery life, oh cmon it supposed to be on 20hrs range! And BTW newer chips AMD Ryzen launch in July it will obliterates every benchmark!

[@johnnydoe3603]

You do Realise that’s a Totally Different Laptop Brand Promising that ? 😅

[@AleWebCreate]

13 hours ? Seriously ? They promised 18 to 20 hours

[@itsmilan4069]

​@@AleWebCreateyes on a different laptop from a different company 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@MrKar18]

It's the laptop manufacturer who decides battery power, chip manufacturers only decide how much power it consumes.

[@josephle2381]

Dell and Microsoft promised 20 hours. Asus never did

[@itsacookie1]

Just a reminder, this laptop has the lowest spec version of the Snapdragon X Elite.

[@fasinfrank6941]

Nice fair review. I know Macbook Airs screens are LCD but they seem to be very nice with high resolution. Also they are 60hz but I think it's a fair trade off for having excellent speakers, no fans and great build quality.

[@thenubianspeaks4329]

no fans mean heat anyway you put, I returned my Macbook air 15, because it got too hot!!!

[@fasinfrank6941]

@@thenubianspeaks4329 had a few airs, the only one that ever got warm was the Intel i3 I had in 2019. M1, 2, 3 stay cool at all times from everything I've heard and read. My M1 has never gotten warm even.

[@leohart7468]

It has been overly hyped. It's not a game-changer; it's more like a new chip that falls short of expectations. However, having competition is beneficial for us as consumers.

[@andyH_England]

I agree, underwhelmed, but glad it exists and hopefully, it will get better next generation.

[@clickbaitpro]

If you're not gaming, ARM machines makes more sense even in this state

[@greebj]

Unless it creates a split in the developer world because software now needs another code path for another cpu architecture that increases development costs, and resources spent on getting it to work on this 3rd entrant could be better spent optimising performance on the other established CPU+GPU architectures that the majority already use...

[@thenubianspeaks4329]

it is game chagner for battery and heat when it comes ot window laptops if you have used them before, and once devlopers start to develop more software for arm, yeah othere windows laptops better watch out.

[@M3rken]

How the turntables... Mac is now better at gaming (on ARM) than Windows ? What interesting times we live in

[@nauscakes1868]

I'm glad to know Warcraft works on this. That's the main game I plan to play when I'm travelling, lol. Gotta still farm them mounts when away on business!

[@GFBunnyHopER]

For the 7th gen ARM for PC product form Snapdragon, it's not bad.

[@404Learning]

I still have another 3 years before I buy a new laptop, surely by then there will be major improvements to prism and more apps will be ARM compatible

[@Endorsememe]

Finally somebody showed gaming benchmarks too.

[@asfonseca]

These laptops are made for work, not for gaming. There aren't many games available for this new system yet, but I think they'll be great for gaming in the future, especially when developers start using the NPUs' power. And the 12-hour battery life is amazing! These Snapdragon X Elite chips are going to change the industry.

[@Bizmops]

it's what i expected, around 50% battery life improvement. and its 3k 120hz. most x86 chips were 60hz in 12+ hours. and for gaming, i think it will be a long time to get windows arm support, maybe will change if a lot of people buy windows arm. i mean for gaming, i'll still use nvidia laptop. nvidia were really on a league on its own when it comes to gaming.

[@Wild_Cat]

Intel Lunar Lake and Arrow Lake mobile laptops are going to destroy the Snapdragon X laptops...

[@MatthewMoniz]

We shall see! To early to tell. No hardware yet. I don’t like making claims based on promises

[@chaostropy]

im not remembering any rosetta2 error when i start to use applications on apple m1.... apparently mikisoft and qualcomm felt the pressure and served undercooked products to consumer again... no sir im not gonna be your alpha tester with my own money and sanity..

[@techinrl9869]

Sounds like Apple and Microsoft also have different emulator philosophies. Apple wrote Rosetta 2 as a translator at install time, converting the entire binary to ARM so it runs ARM natively. Microsoft, it seems, is relying on pure emulation, which will have run time performance problems as it translates on the fly.

[@bradavon]

I'm using my Surface Pro X with my Epson Printer/Scanner and Sony MiniDisc from 2002. Which is extremely old. All work without issue. I can even use the OEM Scanner software (but not OEM printer drivers, Windows ones are as good).

[@yaroslav7328]

I am looking forward to using this architecture with Linux installed 🤗

[@Gustavo_St]

Did not feel like a real review of the laptop. Being sponsored really hurts independence.

[@imjustabilly6660]

13hours on a 70whr battery, 15 inch display. that doesn't sound that great right? the surface laptop 15 has like a 66whr battery? lower res, not oled though, so maybe itll be better

[@eduardmc]

3k resolution 240hz oled. Battery seems pretty good to me with that screen eating all that battery. Do the same on a 1080p 60hz, probably 50-80% more battery

[@XYang2023]

@@eduardmc But why do you need to run it at 240hz all the time? The frame rate of motion pictures is at 24hz. 240hz is 10 times of that. It might be useful for competitive gaming but this arm laptop is not good at that.

[@imjustabilly6660]

This laptop has a 120hz screen ​@@eduardmc

[@brianclarke8503]

Thanks for the early review! So for me, not interested in this architecture for gaming. But what disappoints me the most is battery life.... only 12 hours? If it's on par with meteorlake, then lunarlake will kill this.... and if it's no better than x86 with battery life, then what's the point? Looks like it's best not to be an early adopter. My next laptop is looking to be a macbook air with m4 when it launches, or I may still give Lunar Lake a chance.

[@ocvjw8734]

I get 5-6 hours best on any intel platform. Not sure intel will ever make a power efficient chip competitive with arm offerings.

[@brianclarke8503]

@@ocvjw8734 Not sure what generation or config that is that you are using, but I get about 7-8 hours currently with my intel gen 13 laptop. In this review here, he shows meteorlake getting 12-13 hour which is on par with what i've read with other reviews and make sense based on what i'm getting on intel gen 13. So i have no idea what you're using, but that sounds like only your config.

[@ocvjw8734]

@brianclarke8503 I was using a galaxy book 3 pro with Intel Core i7 13th gen. Only on a very dim screen with mainly streaming audio I could get around the 7 hour mark. (It was advertised to 13-14 hours) I did gift a new dell with the core ultra processor to family, maybe its better there. But at this point I'm done with x86.

[@josephle2381]

Btw no laptop company has accurate battery life estimations, including Apple. These companies purposely lower the brightness all the way down and do light task so they can technically claim it can last those hours, but in real life use, it probably only last half the time they claim🤷‍♂️

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

This is when people eat all the marketing bullshit.. it's required 12 power cores to catch up with Apple 4 power cores (basic M series), and since the Windows is multitasking OS, and each app use one core, you can rapidly use 7-8 power cores.. which will ALWAY use more power like the 4 power cores and 4 efficiency cores.. (not to mention the fan noise, so it's still hotter like the fanless Macbook, which also a hint for more power consumption..)

[@debojitmandal8670]

U should mention which x Elite version is it is it 84-100 or 70 series. The compatibility will take atleast a decade to be resolved so my suggestion is unless ur task is natively compiled for arm don't buy arm laptops in 2024 and buy in 2034 bcs it will take atleast a decade to resolve this issue

[@TheAutumnNetwork]

This one is the 78 series so it's on the lower end. Only the Samsung Galaxy Edge currently has the 84 X1E for day 1.

[@Workaholic42]

And not on every model, some Galaxy Edge models have the 80 variant

[@TalynOne]

The emulation hit is only 10 percent, also most common apps are already arm. No need to wait at all.

[@debojitmandal8670]

@@TalynOne not for games

[@TalynOne]

@@debojitmandal8670 correct, i have a chonky heavy loud battery hog laptop for gaming, this is going to be my work slash travel device.

[@m_leBrave]

X Elite is not A processor. There are plenty of X Elite variants. Please specify which one is it. Your review or comparison is not genuine and might even backfire on Qualcomm since a consumer can get a variant with less clock speed and few cores

[@andyH_England]

That fewer cores is the X-Plus which is not an X-Elite, so I am not sure why you are complaining about that. The Vivobook uses the main variant and a quick look at their website shows that.

[@Kratos30000]

​@@andyH_EnglandNo, it uses the slowest variant of the X Elite (the 78), the 80 and 84 are a lot faster. Btw, this X elite is more a X Plus with 2 additional cores.

[@andyH_England]

@@Kratos30000 Thanks!

[@SirMo]

@@Kratos30000 isn't the 78 like the common variant everyone uses? I think only a few ultra premium models will have the higher clocked parts.

[@aashishnakarmi1690]

Its not that much better as i thought ot would be. Lunar lake is gonna outperform this shit.

[@Otts287]

Still getting an X Elite powered laptop for my next one. I'm done with intel's incremental updates. They only "redesign" their chips when there's competition around the corner. So, I'm moving to other SOCs.

[@darkfeeels]

I appreciate your review and honesty on this because your experience is very different than Dave. Straight up going for performance really gave us what we wanted. After your review, I think I'll wait till ARM matures and see then whether its better to go for Ryzen, Intel or ARM. Thank you Matthew!

[@MatthewMoniz]

You're very welcome and I'm glad you found it helpful!

[@TechAfterThoughts]

Thanks for getting this out. Whelp on that battery life, that was what was holding me back. I have a feeling if AMD hits their targets the 9 ai 365 will be the new windows battery champ.

[@rowaystarco]

Other people are reporting pretty good battery life for it, Dave2d, Booredatwork and so on.

[@snappywang]

This laptop should have a negative cost given the objectively terrible keyboard: squished tilde key, shortened spacebar, squished numberpad, trying to support like 4 regional layouts simultaneously with all those ugly markings.

[@RobertDunn310]

Even though I probably will not be running out to get one of these laptops, it is still a very solid device and I feel that for mainstream users who increasingly live in the browser, this will be an excellent choice. But, like you said, the main Achilles' heel is still the software and the drivers which, unlike software, cannot be emulated and need to be recompiled. That automatically makes this laptop a non-starter if you need to use exotic, specialized hardware that does not have ARM drivers for Windows (on Linux, it is not that big of a problem since the drivers are open-source and can be recompiled).

[@abrahammartinez247]

Amazing sticker review as always :>

[@MatthewMoniz]

Thanks again!

[@nicolasdujarrier]

How long the tests on battery has been done ? It could be misleading to claim that the performance on battery are only 5% to 10% lower for a 2mn strain test… while for example after 30mn strain test performance may drop 30% or more… So we need more info on how long benchmark tests on battery has been done ?

[@Arjun69K]

People who seem disappointed chill for a bit This laptop has entry level of x elite Asus promised 19 hrs of battery life Reviews are getting in range of 12 to 14hrs ..[70kwh battery ] Will we waiting for higher version of x elite

[@Electrobuzz17]

My heart kept wishing it will power through all the games but the results exactly as my brain predicted for a first gen processor. We are still dependent on dedicated gpus. Hate to admit but replicating the power/awesomeness of apple silicon & Rosetta still feels like a dream. With the track record i have less hope that suddenly all our apps will have an arm optimized version. Every year getting more tempted by the macs.

[@christianr.5868]

If you’re planning on going to Macs for gaming, id reconsider. What we really need is more native arm games

[@walethegreat]

sorry to break it to you buddy, but if you're planning on using mac for gaming you're going to be in for a very large and rude awakening

[@az-fy3mp]

the thing is macs are expensive and not many apps run on macs so their market share are negligible to program developers to develop native apps for so they are mostly exclusively used by creative pros. even normal mouse don't even work properly on macs. i have an m1 macbook air and my logitech mouse work like shyt on it and i think it's because apple just want to sell more of their expensive magic mouse. windows machines however are a lot more cheaper and their hardware ecosystem are a lot more open so a lot more people buy them thus a lot more incentives for developer to develop native apps for windows themselves. and i can see a lot more native apps developed for windows compared to macs in the future.

[@Son37Lumiere]

Apple's Mx chips are overrated. Sure, they are very impressive at certain tasks but that's because they are designed and optimized towards those specific tasks. Try using it for other tasks outside of its designed parameters and it falls on its face. CPUs from Intel and AMD are general purpose so they run most tasks well. Gaming is very much not a thing on Macs for a reason.

[@christianr.5868]

@@Son37Lumiere I mean, x86 is only general purpose because the all programs are currently designed for the architecture. Once all programs are designed for arm, it’ll be general purpose and more efficient

[@SunsetNova]

Decent first showing. Not great but not bad. Bring on Snapdragon Gen 2

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

I agree, but im afraid because of the early hype, most people will saw it as a disappointment and not a decent, but still have to work on the next gen harder chip.

[@l0nelyrider]

I believe this is with X1E-78-100 chip, so expect X Elite come even stronger, when we get X1E-80-100 and X1E-84-100 chip device tests.

[@dronshi]

It's already like their 4th try with laptops. They had the Snapdragon 7c Gen 2, Snapdragon 7c+ Gen 3, Snapdragon 8cx, all of which had versions that were on actual laptops running Windows 10/11 and not chromebooks running ChromeOS.

[@SunsetNova]

@@dronshi this time it’s different because this chip was largely designed by engineers behind Apples M1. So you should treat it as first gen

[@dronshi]

@@SunsetNova It's not called "Designed by engineers behind Apples M1", it's called "Snapdragon" and it's their fourth gen.

[@moist_ointment]

TBH very unimpressive. Comparable performance to existing MTL and Zen 4 laptops (Minus the impressive R24 MT score. No ST score?). Battery life worse than the 185H. LNL/ARL and Zen 5 are launching shortly and don't have the translation layer performance penalties.

[@abc_cba]

I was an AMD superfan, until Snapdragon X Elite dropped. I can't imagine how much electricity it would save in countries where electricity is so expensive like India plus where climate change is a crucial issue every every carbon footprint counts.

[@christianr.5868]

So essentially, what it really needs is more arm support and a discreet GPU. Feel like it’s just a matter of time at this point for those things

[@nakdickson]

I think this ARM Pc's are currently aiming for productivity rather than gaming.

[@Akmpkm32]

discreet gpu isnot happening

[@random_bit]

nvidia already supports arm thanks to their foray with nintendo switch so its a matter of time

[@christianr.5868]

@@Akmpkm32 nah it’ll happen, it’s got the pcie slots for it

[@christianr.5868]

@@nakdickson I know, and that’s enough for me tbh. I’m getting the surface pro for art and NPR blender stuff

[@randeepmk4061]

With time it will get better, better not jump into the bandwagon right away. Let's wait for next gen

[@lammartland]

Big question... if I'm an Asus fanboy, who lives in my browser when I'm not using Photoshop and Lightroom and I never ever play games but I can't decide whether to go all out on a Zenbook UX8406MA-PZ203W with Intel Core Ultra 9 and 32GB RAM with 2TB fast SSD storage or to take a leap of faith with Vivobook S 15 with Snapdragon Elite etc. etc. - which laptop do you believe is going to give me THE best performance experience? I don't care about 'bang for my buck', I just want THE most powerful laptop for my needs. Which of those is it going to be?

[@SirMo]

AMD's Strix is coming out next month. It should be the fastest mobile CPU.

[@enocharyan5838]

I believe that this is the beginning an there is still room for improvement in years to come

[@Isaac-gh5ku]

I'll plan to buy a laptop with either LPCAMM2 memory or Snapdragon X Elite. Next year. When these techs matures, and because my semester will end in two months.

[@derJackistweg]

3:38 THX for trying Resolve 19. This dosn´t look to bad for me at all.

[@MatthewMoniz]

You're welcome!

[@EnduroLRA]

for me it's look bad... timeline preview as like i see here is not acceptabe... I hope thai it will be MUCH faster in soon updates (Davinci for macbook got x3-x5 faster performance is one of previous updates- i hope that it will repeat on ARM Windows)

[@derJackistweg]

@@EnduroLRA There is not much hope with updates. You can do only so much. The BIG thing with M SOCs is the inbuild H264/5 en-decoding engine! Obviously not existing. Watch the story on Intels Quicksysc. Quite interesting: An Intel developer who went into contact with Blackmagic and startet developing hardware encoding on the iGPU after that. But I do not care too much: I WANT WIN back,

[@ksenchy]

They had one job, be a MacBook. And they failed miserably

[@thenubianspeaks4329]

How do you figure, battery and heat is just about as good as the macbook. and plus the new 15 inch macbook air gets hot as hell. sorry, they die mot fail by much, and not losing power on battery just like the Mac is phenomenal, and if you use a windows computer you should kmow that. I like the Mac too very much, but you just sound like resentful Mac user

[@ksenchy]

@@thenubianspeaks4329 I am not a mac user. I was, I quit. Bought a PC and use Linux. If I'm ever buying a laptop again, it will be MacBook. Windows sux no matter what CPU you use, Linux usually has problems with laptops unless you explicitly buy one that has official support for it which severely limits your choice. I'm just done with the laptops altogether, but still, nothing comes even close to what MacBook offers

[@entropicking6007]

so its like a macbook, non existent gaming but good for work loads, i'll stick with the old school x86.

[@MB-yw7up]

Yeah that's disappointing

[@SirMo]

Biggest myth ever is that ARM is more efficient. This has been debunked by a study done at Wisconsin University back in 2013. ARM has no inherent advantage. It was always the OS, and AMD and Intel have improved the efficiency of their x86 chips a lot. Both upcoming Strix/Kraken Point (AMD) and Lunar Lake (Intel) should have very similar battery life as well.

[@ayushdunk]

@@SirMolol which study is that? Can you share? x86 carries decades of legacy garbage that makes it very complex to control and manage idle and active power. Its widely known among micro architects, cpus built on arm isa are easier to optimize for PPA. Software compatibility may or may not come for ARM but these facts dont change.

[@jesse8716]

​@@SirMoyou don't get 95 percent of total performance while unplugged on x86 chips.

[@ryanspencer6778]

Gaming on Mac might actually be better than this. An M1 Pro plus Wine and Rosetta will run a lot of windows games, and there are a few that run natively on macOS. Plus the GPU on even the base M1 seems faster than the GPU in this.

[@daniel_kiing3]

THIS IS NOT A GAMING LAPTOP AND SHOULDN"T BE TREATED AS ONE The fact that Qualcomm is able to deliver the promised the performance claim and the translation works. I believe this is a gaming changing moment for Windows and it would only get better from here. This shows a glimmer of hope for me as a Mac users to reconsider using windows and i believe it's a win for the industry

[@MatthewMoniz]

I never said it was a gaming laptop lol. I tested both normal apps and gaming. The point of showing the games was to show compatibility its a lot easier to do. I would love Windows to succeed on arm but its not so easy. Apple could do it because they control the whole stack they can kill x86 on their platform. Windows can't. We are at a fork now with AMD & Intel continuing to make more X86 cpus and Qualcomm making ARM. Developers will continue to develop for the masses.

[@Kmcornell23]

I don't see this lasting very long. Companies aren't going to want to dump the resources into it. X86 is by far the dominating platform and companies aren't going to see the value in continuing to support it. It's the same reason Linux hasn't taken over. Most programs out there just don't natively run well on it in spite of it being X86. It's not better or cheaper than what's currently available so why bother? If you want a fancy internet browser, go for it. But if you want to use it for anything else, you're better off getting a regular X86 system or even a MacBook (in spite of how much I dislike Macs).

[@SuperMachead1]

Omg…. Microsoft wasn’t even ready for the launch….god help us 😕😕

[@greebj]

Probably wanted to do their own launch... and be in control of what benchmarks they include.

[@MacBjorn]

Im guessing wait for 2nd gen or native apps get better and or catch up. But good effort overall

[@WhiteEvo6]

No the big question we all have is, what happens if you send it in as an average user to service centre, is the experience improved for ASUS or the same nightmare

[@justinleong2589]

I'd love to see how alienware or msi integrades snapdragon X Elite with high end rtx graphic card and see how both works together

[@jayvee8502]

Not happening

[@christianr.5868]

Tbh I’m fine with how it performs. Just want a 2 in 1 with good performance and good battery life. And hopefully that’s what the surface pro 11 will be. I’m sure in time as apps get translated to arm more and arm laptops start getting discreet GPUs, it’ll get even better

[@NaqqashLatif]

Thank you Matthew for this work. Most, if not all, videos are just Qualcomm ppts turned into charts, whereas this is the real deal!

[@greebj]

Never ever believe manufacturer claims, ever.

[@ZAcharyIndy]

The biggest problem with ARM on Windows is Microsoft itself. Despite the emulation, if Microsoft fails to convince big crucial software vendors to rewrite their app for ARM Windows, then it screwed. Efficiency? Wait for Lunar Lake, Arrow Lake and even Panther Lake. Nope. Im not interested for arm Windows that is so pricey with uncertain future and support

[@sternwho3932]

Disappointed with limitations and price

[@XandexTheMarshan]

Pretty impressive if u ask me. Cuz the software will only improve from this point onwards

[@ibraheem1224]

​​​@@XandexTheMarshanAgreed. For a first gen product it's quite impressive. The ASUS S14 had better battery life (by only 49 mins) in the chart at 2:28 because of a larger battery, lower refresh rate and lower brightness. And software support for ARM on Windows is only going to increase from now... I wonder how the test will look like in 4-5 months from now.

[@stanjs]

​@@ibraheem1224It may take longer than 5 months. This laptop may be software-crippled for a long time.

[@Rima12377]

2:31 wait what’s the point if its battery life is not even better than Intel? Why buy into this ARM laptop if battery life is poor? This is dead on arrival.

[@ManneBharath]

After using this for a while, I still feel older M2 MacBook air would be a great option for majority of people, even the content creators. Provided you get a good deal.

[@SabinTV-NP]

I wonder why they would go for ASUS of all brands to showcase their new SOCs. Especially since they are in such hot-water right now.

[@andyH_England]

Price. It is the cheapest and I wonder if Qualcomm has done a deal so the Vivobook is a loss-leader to promote the new X Elite chips.

[@ruzaroos]

Asus sent these to the reviewers and specified the embargo. Samsung has been early shipping Galaxy Book 4 Edge units to random people so they have been posting their impressions for about a week. The smaller reviewers who ordered everything will start posting initial impressions as they get the devices. Dell could have sent an XPS 13 early and lifted the embargo on launch day like Asus, but they didn't. No one chose Asus, Asus executed faster because they churn out stuff all the time. The real Asus models like the PZ13 won't be available for months.

[@ryanspencer6778]

Because Asus non-gaming laptops are great. The support is awful, but the non-gaming products are still good.

[@PandaMoniumHUN]

With all these laptops built around SoCs, as a developer I wish 32/64GB RAM configs will be widely available, otherwise these are not really viable to me as working devices.

[@Bitmask64]

Fair assessment. Seems like a really frank review without pulling any punches.

[@FriedrichPei]

It's really sad, for me gaming is the single most important application in a laptop or desktop computer. If my gaming experience is compromised, this windows on arm laptop just becomes a web browsing machine, then I'd just buy an iPad for that matter

[@scottwilkins]

I'm getting tired of the "it won't work with..." statements. WE KNOW THIS!!!! This is cutting edge technology, so the inclusion of other features and capabilities will come in time. DUH!

[@TrusteftTech]

The review is fine of course, Matthew does good reviews, but if I knew this was an ARM based laptop I wouldn't have clicked in the first place.

[@oooahrl4998]

This will be my new productivity laptop!

[@bfish9700]

1800 time spy score tells me it'll canabalize MacBook air sales but no one who wants to game will buy these.

[@blueeyednick]

The main punch point of this chip was the battery life advantage and the Intel model still has more battery life... and it's the 14" model while the Snapdragon model is 15" ... what's the point of this laptop?

[@az-fy3mp]

google will definitely develop a version of android OS for the new snapdragon processor. i can see mobile apps running natively on this laptop in the future.

[@JuniusJones]

I got 10 hours yesterday. Set to 60hz at 1080p, with a galaxy tab s7+ paired, also at 60hz at 1080p Was running 5 chrome tabs (wordpress stuff & youtube music), Excel, Filezilla, Outlook, & Teams. Haven't tested any gaming at all, yet.

[@aleksdeveloper698]

We dont need developers to start making Arm software, we need microsoft and other companies, make software that can emulate better, what developers are already doing.

[@Eye-love-bread]

The best thing about this is straight up the form factors and cross platform things will allow. Making arm a viable platform can potentially lead to mobile being a straight up feasible platform to create software and games for. WSL was good, but with this, ASL actually has hope. And someone one another video mentioned that this would be good for things like the steam deck. It only took like half a decade but thank you Microsoft. I'm gonna forget about the other crap you've been doing recently (*cough* copilot *cough* recall *cough cough*) and just give you the W for this one.

[@kintustis]

It looks like running on arm is gonna be like running linux: you'll have some serious compatibility issues that translation layers will never be able to fix. You can decide to cross your arms and say "well I guess I just won't do those things then," but the issues won't go away. "But they'll make Prism better in the future. It'll work once Microsoft does " Yes it may......for NEWER processors, and this one will be left behind as "legacy, no further updates or optimizations."

[@daReturn1888]

Thanks for the info on games and Diablo 4 in particular!

[@MatthewMoniz]

You're welcome!

[@Momfasa]

What a disappointment. Absolute zero reason for going through the hassle with x86 emulation etc. Not good enough.

[@alpree]

It is a good starting point towards a better laptop experience.

[@Sini_s_piciouse]

If i had to work back, this definitely would have been in my wishlist

[@MadridistaFrieren]

You should feature games like genshin, honkaiimpact3rd, & hsr on to the igpu benchmark

[@MF_OXF]

Nobody cares about crappy games like gensin, move along

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

It's can't even play properly smaller games.. so what do you expect..? The baldurs gate 3 is barely run at 1080p@30fps, and they obviously showed the non throttling phase, and that is not really a graphics heavy game..

[@agung-adhinata]

that would be great as those games is relatively capable running with iGPU only. also, I'm curious how's the translation layer will impact game's performance. Because from Dave2D review, at least, there's noticeable -10% performance penalty when running app with translation layer vs with native ARM build.

[@rowaystarco]

@@TamasKiss-yk4st BG3 has been notoriously hard to run.. they had to do extra work to get it to run at an okay speed on Xbox Series S

[@muktasimazlan]

I edit videos. But the fact that Davinci Resolve is built for ARM and still cant playback smoothly at 4k with color? Come on..

[@Diamond_Hanz]

Qualcomm changing it's story now 😅

[@Wilbur-em1hw]

Windows still has a lead in pc market share. Going fully ARM will expedite the app architecture switch as developers now have to make apps for ARM because Windows runs on ARM and even if x86 co exits along with ARM Windows users get the choice of choosing between ARM for efficiency and x86 for app support. PC can make a strong comeback and go toe to toe with mac once again. Mac users won't be forced to buy non repairable overpriced stuff just for performance and app optimization. This is good for everybody.

[@knofi7052]

For me, the partial advantages are far too small to compensate for the disadvantages of software emulation. With Linux, it would be a different story, because most applications would be available and therefore could run native on ARM.

[@williamscott850]

16x9 in a straight productivity machine is no bueno in 2024.

[@AnonymousUser-ww6ns]

Screw ASUS and their defective products

[@jadenisiah]

For everyone watching please do remember there are several different variants of this chip. As well as each manufacturer decides how much power they want to use in this chip. For example Samsung is currently the only manufacturer I believe using the strongest version of the chip, the x84-100, in the galaxy book 4 edge. Don't be disappointed by just one review video about one particular type of chip.