Driving "The Lizard": 991.2 GT3 RS

[@albertbrooklyn]

I have a .2 3RS in LG but I went for the PCCBs and the Aurum wheels. I put 2k miles in about a month; can't stop driving this car too much fun.

[@felixanthony8139]

Nice man. Still driving it a lot? Plan on selling it?

[@bdeale3314]

NACA inlets. National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics. This organization was pre-NASA. They designed this type of inlet to be efficient on aircraft.

[@fitnesspoint2006]

But it did not work on aircraft and therefore it was abandoned.

[@smcox1991]

It's funny how all Porsche's over the hood look the same. My cayenne looks basically the same from your front camera point of view lol!

[@brianhimmelman420]

Wow ... valved side deletes sounds almost perfect ... retains clean factory engine sound just volume up a notch or two ... hardly notice the valve transition ... sounds a bit less drone than my Sharkwerks with disconnected valves ... must be the valve retention

[@woodhead0823]

Apart from the green rim trim and the decals this is dream spec 👌🏼

[@MrElnuno]

Matt, I think updating from the dot1 to the dot2 would be a very small gain for the outlay. A little like going from iPhone X to iPhone Xs. A minimal improvement. In fact I prefer your 991.1 as it looks a little less fussy than the 991.2. I'm not huge fan of the NACA ducts and the protruding side vents etc. I would wait for a more substantial technology and engineering improvement in a few years.

[@krichd1]

Then change the tires on your GT3 RS to the new Cup 2 R and get stiffer springs, maybe coilovers according to the 991.2 GT3 RS specs, problem solved. Those unpainted plastic exterior body parts are still killing my soul. I'm like this "quick review" video series very much.

[@enfantterrible4868]

Cup 2 R for what? Driving on some backroads? They're basically slicks.

[@krichd1]

He said in the video that the Cup 2 R tires are less noisy, have better feel, but I agree, they are overkill for backroads, Pilot Sport 4S is enough.

[@enfantterrible4868]

@@krichd1 It's too dangerous on public roads, I'm pretty sure it's almost undrivable on a wet road

[@AlexanderDornbracht]

All plastic exterior parts can be upgraded by Techart with carbon fiber

[@timmietz]

Matt, I was fortunate to enough to spend a week at the Nurburgring very recently. There are a lot of GT3 and GT3 RS cars there as you can imagine. In fact, 991 serious cars clearly dominate the track at this point. So, I did talk to a number of people about the difference between 991.1 and 991.2 GT3RSs. According to the people who are really familiar with the mechanics of these cars, especially the engines, there is no comparison. 991.2 engines are miles ahead . I would highly recommend that you talk to somebody from Manthey Racing, if you will be able to find somebody who’s actually going to give you a true story and will be willing to talk freely. I am very glad that I did not buy a 991.1 GT3RS. To me $50-60K would be definitely a very fair price. Let me know if you’ll be selling your allocation.

[@station2station544]

Does anyone know why US spec RS cars don't have the roll cage option? You can't get it even if you choose euro delivery, if Porsche knows it's coming stateside. Must be a DOT thing. I have a buddy with a GT2 RS who had to order the cage from Porsche and install it. Required much welding in a finished interior. They did a great job and covered the interior prior to the cage build.

[@QantonisQ]

Sounds amazing!

[@Alan-N]

Great series thanks for sharing Matt 👍🇬🇧

[@drumrboy80]

If anything, I’d upgrade to the .2RS plus the mods you’ve done to your .1 over a manual gt3. But as it is, your .1rs is ‘dialed in’ so I’d be hard pressed to get rid of it.

[@XL5Master]

I think Matt is forgetting this car is a full 24 seconds faster than his at the 'ring. Its literally a different car.

[@sergialadid]

The .2 was on Cup 2 R tyres, a new ultra high performance model that won't last more than two days of track driving, and obviously much better than the regular Cup 2.

[@Porsche1969]

@@supermotos This 991.2 GT3 RS was exactly one second faster on the Nordschleife in 6:56 minutes, than a 918 Spyder or a McLaren P1too.... in the hands of a LeMans 2018 winning pilot like Kevin Estre of course...!

[@cutdepiefails6596]

No it is not a different car. 991.1 rs only managed the record on a humid track, cup 2 N0, and a slower track. From the 991.1 rs the track got much faster, a couple of miles of fresh sticky tarmac, they smoothed out some parts that now you can take wot. Then Cup R. The biggest change was stiffer springs. Delta on both cars with cup 2 n2 or cup r, is 1 to 2 seconds AT MOST per 3 minutes of lap.

[@cutdepiefails6596]

@@Porsche1969 You all are forgetting that the track gets faster around 1 second every year, last year it got a major overhaul, much faster now. 918 today would lap in the 6:35-45 range.

[@Porsche1969]

@@cutdepiefails6596 Forget about this shit "it's getting faster around 1 second every year", because it is proven that it isn't true. Here in Germany, the guys from car magazine "sportauto" has done "researches" because of that claim. And they say, NO... that's no true! The track isn't getting faster each year. The tires have the biggest impact on track times, and that's all. Tires are the reason for getting faster each year. But the 991.2 GT3 RS is the much faster car compared to its predecessor. You can talk and talk and talk... the 991.1 isn't by far as quick.

[@chele089]

Love the .2 RS, looks much better than the .1 in my oppinion!

[@albertbrooklyn]

I think the .1 and .2 are both beautiful machines but I prefer the .2, NACA ducts and all.......

[@head911]

Hi Matt!! Would you go for the side muffler delete or the center bypass?

[@ObsessedGarage]

I would prefer the center bypass.

[@ImaDjentleman]

I'd keep the .1 because I prefer its front bumper

[@MikeyFFA500]

Red calipers look really bad on that green car lol

[@chrism8082]

Mikey Steel brakes unfortunately

[@MikeyFFA500]

Yeah, easy to get painted though!

[@teedee5908]

It's a watermelon

[@coreydangelo7672]

needs yellow or black

[@superchargedman]

Except for the fact that red is the complimentary colour to green. I like it, and I'd go steel once again if I weren't at v250 lock status on my RS.

[@joetacchino4470]

Been waiting for this one . Commented and liked before watching! Also, can the fender outlets and rear inlets be swapped on a .1 if desired? Oh, LOL at Weathertech floor liners on an RS, 🤣

[@ObsessedGarage]

That would be interesting. The .1 are much better.

[@coreypatterson1386]

Matt, how come you did not originally buy a used GT3 to develop a relationship with a Porsche dealership? I know typically people will have to pay about 10k--15k over msrp when being a 1st time buyer. but after that you would have a good chance of getting an allocation at MSRP. My buddy trades down then trades back up. He goes back and forth between a GT3 and GT3 RS. He trades his cars in right at msrp and is able to buy the latest GT3 or GT3 RS at MSRP with his own allocation build. He drives the latest and greatest models and does not lose much money at all according to him.....basically its like leasing a car.....but I guess it would not work for you or another person if they wanted to keep a GT car for awhile. Anyway just curious why you did not go that route since you love to drive Porsche GT cars

[@tantabi2531]

Matt - great vids, keep em coming this is KSA GT3 from RL. Do you feel a power difference between your RS with dundon and the .2 RS you drove in this video? Did you feel a power difference between the .2 RS and manual GT3 you drove? Finally do you feel a .2 RS with dundons will make a difference like it did on the .1 GT3 or .1 RS?

[@ObsessedGarage]

I can't feel a power difference between any of them. The Dundon equipped cars will be faster, but you can't feel it in the seat of your pants.

[@mlhj83]

With the Fabspeed side muffler bypass, what is the static and drive-by dBa for track use? Thanks.

[@tantabi2531]

Steering wheel on .1 RS is same diameter as .2 RS or is the .2 RS much smaller in diameter?

[@brianhimmelman420]

Great video !! Hey Matt when u did side deletes were they valved like these or non valved ... did you notice better sound between 2K and 4K when valved open ? Is transition open close open smoother than Center bypass?

[@ObsessedGarage]

Mine were non-valved. That was drone crazy.

[@brianhimmelman420]

Obsessed Garage was this green Lizard valved and better for transition and sound louder better at lower rpm?

[@mr.lizard3044]

like this color 😊

[@ggunny1873]

Enjoyed the comparison between your .1 and the new .2 RS. Quick question, what side muffler bypasses were on that? Trying to decide on a valved option for my .2 RS.

[@ObsessedGarage]

If you don't do the valves, it will drone like crazy. These were Fabspeed.

[@ggunny1873]

Obsessed Garage Absolutely, was definitely going to do valved. Mainly wondering what make. Thanks Matt!

[@amac8487]

Dream car right here...

[@joetacchino4470]

Now that I’ve watched it, two things jump out: 1. It’s amazing how much quicker you drive when you feel comfortable in the car. 2. Your comment about the .2 being more “refined” definitely hit home. I’ve driven a half dozen .2 991’s now and that’s definitely the overall impression I get. The suspension and kinematic are just smoother. Doesn’t mean softer or less performance oriented, actually I think it’s the opposite. I’m not sure how they did it, probably a lot of bushing tweaks and maybe some geometry? But it’s definitely the reason the .2 RS can run stiffer springs without beating you up so badly. I recently drove a Carrera T with SPASM and it’s a lot stiffer than my .1 C2S but less harsh.

[@SomeCollege]

Great video!

[@marqkey5063]

Matt, can you provide more details on his exhaust setup? Is it a Dundon with race long headers keeping the stock center muffler? Or what is it? Thanks and great video! Oh yeah, what about valves? What did he do with the valves?

[@ObsessedGarage]

Ryan's has stock header, cats, Fabspeed valved side muffler deletes, and factory titanium center muffler.

[@brianhimmelman420]

Obsessed Garage Matt, would you recommend this exhaust set up? How much loader than stock below 5000 rpm? Does the open close of valves bother you on this set up? Appreciate and trust your opinion thank you

[@gtperfection1596]

I saw your OLD GT3 that car was sitting outside looking sad lonely and neglected.

[@tegoautomotiveproducts5222]

Matt, how does the .2 GT3RS compare to the GT2RS? Is the GT2RS worth $100k - $120k more at msrp?

[@ObsessedGarage]

Not for me it is not.

[@LearnBreeze]

Did you like driving the manual better or the pdk?

[@ObsessedGarage]

Both are great. I really think this is best suited for the PDK.

[@LearnBreeze]

@@ObsessedGarage why's that? Trying to decide tks

[@c6z061]

What color .2 would you get?

[@ObsessedGarage]

White

[@c6z061]

Do it!!!!

[@kyleclayton5530]

Is this @redshift75 's RS?

[@ObsessedGarage]

No, it's my friend Ryan from FL.

[@kyleclayton5530]

@@ObsessedGarage Ah I see, awesome car, that exhaust note is just perfect.

[@ManAndMachine23]

You keep chasing your tail bud, just enjoy what you have now, its a dream car, you're feeling minute differences between the two cars and half of it is Placebo...

[@ObsessedGarage]

Um...no to all of that.

[@haschengrubex7131]

different cars different brakes corvette brakes are 8000 from after sellers New. They are harder also and last much longer i track all the time and am not in fear of having to change them.

[@greentipacademy8696]

man, looking at the machinery these guys have i am thinking the military may have been the wrong career choice! dream cars! "IF" I had the money, i'd take the GT3 RS over the GT2 RS all day everyday; much more of a visceral experience.

[@drepop803]

Ah yes here is the supposedly last NA gt3 rs. Love this car. Dream world for me would be .2 gt3 manual and .2 RS.

[@hififunk]

You going to take that car to a track? Kinda superfluous otherwise, don't you think?

[@ObsessedGarage]

Nope...

[@albertbrooklyn]

Don't agree either these cars are just amazing to drive all the time.

[@hififunk]

So you live next to the Nurburgring/Autobahn and/or have your local authorities paid off?

[@danielwyka5408]

KZbind the GT3 and found this guy with the worlds weirdest and smallest sideburns

[@uniquemr99]

I will go with GT3 :)

[@georgebeato5702]

So is it "DOT" or "point".....lol.

[@ron2463]

GT3 RS .1 or GT3 .2(manual) vote below..

[@timmietz]

Ronnie Ly 991.2 GT3. It is a better engine for sure.

[@MaxSpeedMike]

The lizard haha perfect name

[@sn95_mustang_garage]

I must be old, I could never have a purple or lime green Porsche 911 car. I guess I’m more traditional. Cool cars but color isn’t my thing.

[@w-james9277]

The last of the NA RS's. In a dream world, id have a low option GT3 touring with comfort seats and a .2 RS with as many unnecessary, overpriced yet awesome options.

[@J917F]

I saw a video of a 992 GT3 out testing on a track and it definitely sounds N/A. There is still hope!

[@Porsche1969]

Completely wrong! The forthcoming GT3 from the new 992 911 generation will stay with the naturally aspirated engine! Porsche's test driving sessions from last week in Monza/Italy have clearly shown this, that it will be a NA engine! Just watch it here on KZbin... Greetings from Germany! It's very funny, because even after the 911 R there were the same boring and untrue claims about "buhuuuu, this is the last NA Porsche boxer engine", but voila... the 991.2 GT3 with a NA engine plus manual transmission came out.... Haha! The next generation 992 911 GT3 will have a NA engine... period!!

[@paolasanchezd]

992 GT cars right around the corner...Porsche never stops evolving...just saying

[@Speednote10]

They are a couple of years away, probably 3 years for the guys in the US.

[@cls63amgwagon34]

Paola Sanchez yeah not exactly “around the corner”

[@galipvictorsanliturk4865]

All that cash...and all those cheap plastics for the exterior. Its a joke.

[@timmietz]

Galip Şanlıtürk i do believe that all of that plastic can be upgraded to CF for about $15-20K

[@galipvictorsanliturk4865]

Tim Tursonoff lol what a deal...

[@Porsche1969]

Shut the fuck up...please! Porsche doesn't make "cheap plastic" on such a high performance machine! These "plastic" parts are made from a special polymer from Porsche, optimized in weight. Not every Porsche must have fucking "fancy" carbon fibre shit.... you clown! Just think about that! Here in Germany a lot of these 991.1 and 991.2 GT3's are tracking the Nürburgring Nordschleife. On a racetrack it's pure nonsense, having useless and expensive carbon fibre shit at the front splitter for example! Even "cheaper" plastic is looking great on this amazing GT3 RS!

[@tcolley]

@@Porsche1969 um, not over reacting at all...

[@Porsche1969]

@@tcolley Uneducated clowns like this trashtalking idiot... and yourself too, are quite annoying! Just shut the fuck up! You just don't understand sports cars! Useless bling bling carbon fibre parts on the most unsuitable places on a real sports car which is used on a track, are just for fucking posers...🤣! You posers have no fucking clue... Just shut the fuck up!

[@Mike-ph1xy]

I love watching Matt but he’s horrible at shifting gears

[@ObsessedGarage]

That’s nonsense