🔴 Leica CL Lenses (*Leica TL Lenses) vs. Leica CL + M Mount Lenses | Leica Lenses Mirrorless

[@clintjohnson5914]

I've been orbiting a CL for awhile,,,I have a Panasonic GX-8 with Pana/ Leica primes and the 8-18 zoom.. I really enjoy this set up,,,But of course that bigger sensor is always hanging there in space. I appreciate how well you cover this system and especially how you illustrate it with fantastic images.(which most talking heads never do)... thanks again for giving me a lot to think about...

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Clint, no problem. Yes I use the CL for nearly 3 years. I had GH5 for video mostly but just changed that so I need to sell my M43 lenses now.

[@boxlock2009]

For me, the CL is an ideal travel camera.By far my most used lens is the Summicron 23mm - a beautiful, contrasty optic. Also had a Summarit 75mm f2.5 along and used it for mid range telephoto landscapes with the adapter.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

B Bennett Thanks and yes absolutely! As you say with a small lens on especially the CL is ideal for travel. I love my 18mm for that regard as I tend to shoot 28mm more than 35mm.

[@magiccarpetrider4594]

Hey Matt, august 2023 and I’m finally considering the CL. Maybe it’s because I can’t decide between SL2 or SL2s 🤣. I would only use it with M lenses from my M10M and R kit. My concern is APSc- I’ve been a full frame guy since Canon 1Ds days, not enjoying a Fuji XT2 or GRII I used. Think apsc in this is good? Or stick with the SL2 thoughts? Just a complicated matter, I’m also looking for a body to adapt a ton of’s ICE lenses to as the canon R5 is not floating my boat. I’ve been thinking about a Hasselblad X1D2 for those lenses, but the Fuji GFX 50II has got a flippy screen and ibis. I need help.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Did you see my latest video? That answers why and when I use the CL instead of the SL. When I need small. If you’re stopping down anyway CL is fine. For bokeh portraits get the SL.

[@gerryphillipson]

Another big thank you for an excellent summary of the auto manual options for the CL. For auto go-to I love the Vario-Elmar 18-56mm f/3.5 - 5.6 ASPH. For manual I have the Voigtlander Color Skopar 21mm f3.5, and Voigtlander Color Skopar 35mm f2.5. I also have the Summilux-TL1:1.4 35mm ASPH which I find quite heavy for the CL. By contrast, the APO-MACRO-ELMARIT-TL 60mm f/2.8 ASPH is very comfortable on the CL with flexible use in the street for portraiture etc. Need a workshop next time I can get to the UK. Stay well.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Gerry, have you seen this video 10 times already!? It’s an old one. Yes I think you have a nice setup now. Yes you’re welcome to a future workshop. I think I did 10 workshops this month (many for US photographers visiting)

[@gerryphillipson]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I revisit to remind myself of comments you made about specific lenses. Should make notes!

[@Bodywern]

Thanks for this, another useful look at things Leica. I have a Q and a CL with the Elmarit 2.8/18 mm "kit" lens. The combination is a dream, but I am almost certainly going to go for a 1.4/35 mm TL lens as well, partly because of your recommendation, reinforced by Ann Nominous’ report of Peter Karbe’s verdict. There’s a copy of the lens going for a very good price just at the moment…. I’ll be hammering the credit card, but Leica quality really is worth it. Thanks for all our videos and for the Flickr selection, too.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Peter, yes the 35TL is excellent optically

[@DaneBrammage]

I picked up an inexpensive CL a few months ago as a small knock around camera when I didn’t want to haul my SL2 out. I’m absolutely loving it and it’s gone on every shoot since. I just tuck it in the bag with the SL2 or Nikon 850 and I always find an excuse to take a few pictures with it. Surprisingly I have used way more of the CL images from my “casual” shots than I ever expected.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Great! Thanks exactly what happened to me! Bought as backup and it became main user at the time.

[@e.r.4077]

You have a fanrastic rapport with the models. Been meaning to say that for a long time. That said, the tl lens photos seemed sharper in terms of rendering the blacks, and the M mounts produced a dreamier effect. Thank you for another fine video!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks! Yes I need happy models to get the best photos I can from them within 2 hours of meeting them. I'll be bringing out an e-book/ course to share what I know. Yes the TL lenses are sharp. I prefer the M lenses for portraits.

[@canalsentir]

Thanks Matt for this video! I'm a huge Leica fan, due to both the quality of construction and end product (the photos!). I haven't managed to buy one yet, but am looking!! Great explanations and tutorials, as always!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Bienvenidos MX thank you! Feel free to join me on Patreon if you want 1-2-1 help with your first Leica purchase. I help others too 👍🏻😊 ..lots more posts on there too*

[@philipadam7870]

Another excellent video, thank you! As a user of a Bessa rangefinder, I'm considering the purchase of a CL as a companion camera. All of your superb videos on related topics are greatly appreciated! This stranded expat feels less so...

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Philip, I guess you've seen my various Bessa vids for my thoughts on those. The CL is a great size though I currently use the SL (see those vids). You are welcome to reach out on Patreon if you want to feel less stranded! Happy to help and you can dial in on monthly zoom calls.

[@mpw621]

Another great Video Matt. You explain the manual setup very well. It seems critical to get that expensive Leica M -> L adapter.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

I use 7A adapter too but I don’t get infinity with that one.

[@mra1948]

Great video Matt! I just ordered my M adapter tonight for the CL. I've been depending on auto-focus a little too much I think and it's time to get back to a more deliberate approach.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

The CL is brilliant with M glass! You will love it :)

[@lucadilazzaro240]

What do you think about Voigtlander 35 mm / 1:2.0 Ultron aspherical II VM + Adapter ?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Good lens but 1.2 or 1.4 is better on the CL. I used 1.2 the most.

[@cwl1354]

Hi Matt would the lack of ibis a deal breaker? thanks and have a nice day.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

I've never noticed it so no! I have the Lumix S5 now to as like another backup camera/ for KZbin vids and that has IBIS but I see no difference.

[@cwl1354]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks matt and have a nice day

[@savethebees2506]

Hi Matt, is Voigtländer Nokton 40mm 1.4 + leica T = good pairing? Will it become manual mode bec lens is manual ?? I m using it for portrait photography. Thanks Guru for your advice!!! 😄

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi yes that will work. It gives you 60mm because of crop but nice small lens.

[@Imannkarim]

I need your opinion between leica CL ( mirrorless ) & Panasonic S1R which one should I choose for photography wise. Thank you.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

S1R for photos, CL for small size/ Leica feel

[@Imannkarim]

Okay.. got it👍🏼 Thank you

[@Stories_4_Everyone]

Hi Matt, I 'm thinking of getting a used CL and use m mount voigtlander lenses on it. Can you confirm if the focus scale and infinity will be correct?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Great timing, I have a new CL video to come soon (just need to work through the other videos from the US trip first). Yes if you use the Leica adapter you have no issues. Leica designed the CL to use with M glass.. as I use it.

[@Stories_4_Everyone]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thanks Matt. I will be using the novoflex adapter, fingers crossed it wont make any difference to the focusing scale. one last question. Can you turn the auto preview off when using adapted lenses? this was an issue on the TLs

[@michaelumana9352]

Hello Matt, After viewing your videos on the CL , I finally bought the CL 2 months ago. I am very satisfied with the camera the18mm kit lens. I am ready to go with the M mount lens however is it necessary to buy the M to L Leica adapter or can I go generic and get the same results? Is it worth the $ for the 6 bit that the generic brands do not offer? Is the final result the same when it comes to image quality?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi Michael, see my 7Artisan close focus adapter video. I would recommend that for M glass (price & function both good).

[@alexgoeke]

Hey man I shoot my architectural and real estate photos with an xt3 and xf 10-24. Do you think the cl with the ttl 11-23 would produce professional quality images? Also if I got an adapter can the tl lenses be adapted to the fujfilm bodies?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Absolutely! TL lenses are said to be as good as SL lenses but cheaper. No I don’t think you can adapt them sorry.

[@richardpatterson5340]

Matt appreciate your videos. Bought the CL in March 2020 mist of the lockdown. Yes I like the camera. Started with TL lenses then branched out to manual voightlanders and then LTM vintage Leica lenses. I prefer to shoot manual lenses for the same reasons u do. Focus peaking and zoom are very helpful. I then took the plunge and bought a Leica iiif. Great thing I can use the Ltm lenses on both cameras.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Richard! Yes a strong performing and super compact combination!

[@RL-hh2tb]

Matt - question on the manual focussing. After you 2 click to zoom in to focus how do you get it back to normal view to compose? 2 clicks in the opposite direction?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Half press the shutter release after to zoom out

[@RL-hh2tb]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks

[@LucyS565]

Matt, when using the Leica M adapter - L on the Leica CL, with a Leica lens, are the F stops on the lens workable, or is the F stop only used by the camera dial? Thanks so much for all. your help.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi M glass is manual so everything done on lens like with film camera.

[@LucyS565]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom That's great! Thanks Matt! :)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@LucyS565 no problem 👍🏻

[@senyang2260]

Happy 2022 Matt! I've enjoyed watching your channel for years. Recently I am thinking to get a second hand CL to open up another fun world of my collected M lenses. One question: Once I mount M lens on CL with Leica adaptor, does CL provide the accurate spot or central weighted Light Metering as with TL lens? Thank you !

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi Sen, thank you! Yes the metering should be the same as with any lens but with the CL you see the exposure in the finder so you can't go wrong.

[@krolldavid]

I just bought a CL. Love it. What a great travel camera. The 18mm lens is amazing too. Sharp and the images pop. Even portraits. I will try it with the sigma zoom lens too. Not sure if the image quality will be comparable but I like the flexibility when travelling.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Congrats David! I still use mine. See my recent videos. (Modern Sigma lenses are normally good)

[@NicJohnson]

Great video Matt! CL shooter here. I actually don't own a single TL lens. I had a small collection of M lenses and decided to dip into digital with the CL I got my CL with an M to L mount adapter and haven't looked back. I particularly love the 28 Elmarit Asph. I'm typically a 35 shooter so a crop 28 is close to what I'm used to. I've been considering the VM 21 f4, but haven't had the funds to spare yet.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Nic Johnson Thanks Nix and great to hear. Yes that’s an amazing lens the 28. 21 also great. Keep eye on eBay 👍🏻

[@alanandkarenbootholdfield6179]

Hi If you get the chance of owning the voigtlander 21m f4 it’s definitely worth it. It was the first lens i bought which came with the M8

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Alan and Karen Booth Oldfield thanks for your input. Yes agreed, great lens :)

[@Watchloveandphotography]

Matt, just pulled the trigger on a Cl with the 18mm 2.8 Elmarit, I own a couple M lenses for my M240 and M4-P, I am curious if there are some good new AF alternatives as now Sigma is making L mount lenses too.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Congrats Cemal! I would get an adapter to use your M glass first. I’ve not tried other AF lens brands but some people use them. If I get to test I will share it.

[@Watchloveandphotography]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thanks Matt , I got the 30mm Sigma today , it still is acceptable in terms of size but for sure lighter than a 35mm 1.4 Leica lens. Sigma 16mm is definitely not an alternative to the 18mm Elmarit , just because of the size ! After first days of shooting I might glue the 18mm on the CL and keep the Apo lanthar 50 mm on the M body. Btw you should try the Apo-Lanthar 50 , it outperforms my Summicron 50mm V5 by far.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@Watchloveandphotography thanks Cemal. Yes Voigtländer will send me the APO but I delayed testing it because of lockdown here. Thanks for confirming!

[@petergoodliffe7917]

Hi Matt, great videos thanks. Having used the CL for a while now which do you prefer....the M camera or the CL and why?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

The CL..I pick that up first even now. Fast to use, great EVF, never mis focus due to RF calibration issues.. it just works.

[@petergoodliffe7917]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thanks for your quick and concise response Matt, much appreciated.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@petergoodliffe7917 I guess it depends what you photo.. for pleasure and as the only camera for street photography an M would be better, and weddings.. but for portraits when I dont need shallow DOF the CL works. For pleasure I use film and mostly Leica iii cameras now.

[@ivorcomment1526]

Use TL2 with AF L and M lenses via adaptor - great results. TL2 and CL are really the same camera but I love the big screen of TL2, tilting visoflex which also fits M10, and the user interface is great once you get used to it.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Ivor Comment thanks Ivor, yes I thing for people that own the M10 already the TL2 is a nice backup option as can share the same EVF. That was my idea for the CL but I ended up using it more than my M ha. :)

[@barcostudio]

Hi do you know if the Leica CL has focus peaking?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes it does but I zoom in to focus (see my Leica CL setting video)

[@ralfferfi2860]

I’m currently using Olympus O-MD and thinking about a new system. Currently the Leica Cl and the Fuji X-T4 are my favorites. I’m looking for something small with very good quality.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Ralf Ferfi I think you will be more than happy with the Leica CL.

[@ralfferfi2860]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom well, it took some time but now I have a CL since two weeks with a Sigma Contemporary 30 f1.4 and 56 f1.4 and an Elmar 135/4.0 from the sixties with a Novoflex adapter. I’m happy with the combo but looking now for some additional lenses. The original TL 11-23 and I’m thinking about the Ultron 35/2.0 for getting familiar with manual focus and to reduce the weight. I’m thinking also about the Voigtlander 10/5.6, but the 11-23 has two important advantages for me, the close focus and the possibility to add filter easily.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@ralfferfi2860 great, yes small lenses really suit the CL. I use 99% manual lenses on mine, small Voigtlanders are good. I just bought a a Novaflex adapter, you’ll see in a future video. 15mm Voigtlander LTM is very good.

[@danMdan]

I have noticed that when using recent non-Leica wide aperture lenses on my CL, like those from 7Artisans or similar, that they focus beyond infinity. By that I mean that directing the CL on to a very distant object results in focus being achieved just before the infinity stop is reached.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Ah interesting. I know many lenses don’t have infinity stop so the end of the focus is often not infinity..which is a rubbish design. (Any camera)

[@danMdan]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Most of my 0.95 and 1.1 lenses do this which is a problem with those when used on my M8, but OK on CL or T models.

[@dgoullet1]

Great video. Can you focus manually with the TL 35 mm? Any good?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks! I’m 99% sure yes but AF is so instant I don’t think I tried!

[@kenmonahan9924]

That’s great Matt. I have a 15mm voigtländer MIII super wide and getting a 7artisans 70mm f1.25 M mount did you review either on the CL anywhere? Cheers!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks I made the 15mm video, see that. I've not tried the 7A' lenses sorry

[@patriciohernandez1037]

I usually use my Leica cl with Leica Elmarit tl 18 mm. I also use lenses from Voightänder bessa L 15, 35 and 50 mm.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

A great compact setup!

[@khs00667]

I just got my Leica CL for 3 months and I like it a lot. I have Summicron-TL 23mm f2.0 and Summilux-TL 35mm f1.4 lens.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Congrats Shane! I was using my CL in Poland last week and for a wedding a few days ago.

[@webersteve1547]

Nice review. I use my CL since over a year and it is great, especially the ergonomics after firmware update 4. Nice to use with stabilized lenses like the Panasonic 24-105

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, yes still loving my CL!

[@markpalazzo4958]

Great videos as always. I have two questions. If you use a Leica M lens on the CL does the distance scale on the M lens still function correctly when setting the hyperfocal distance for focussing such as during street photography. This procedure is based on the aperture. This brings me to the second question. While the only change is the sensor size and the effective magnification and apparent focal length changes so does the effective widest aperture changes by the crop factor. For example a 50mm f2 becomes 75 f3. Do any of these things matter and I presume Lightroom simply records it as a M50 f2.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks and that is a great question! The evf is so good I’ve never tried tbh. Being Leica I’m pretty sure it will, I will have to check.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

OK I was at home so had time to check quickly.. the distance scale set at 1m is in focus on Leica m and Leica CL, the brightness looks the same, and yes EXIF data, if a camera provides it is whatever the lens is so 50/2 in your example. Only difference I see is 35mm=50mm on CL.

[@markpalazzo4958]

Thanks Matt that is very prompt and useful.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@markpalazzo4958 no problem, I try to reply to all the comments 👍🏻

[@kevwarrilow45]

Hi Matt - fantastic info here thank you - I've had a CL for a while now and a Q2 - and to be fair the CL isn't getting as much use as it deserves. I have the Leica TL 18-56 but prefer my Voightlander 35mm f1.4 II Nokton but am unsure which lens profile to use within the CL - great tip on magnifying before shooting - thanks very much :) Kev

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Kev, I just posted another CL related post today actually! I don't use any lens profiles so I might not be able to help with that..I use the same lens, v1 and I still get nice results once my MrLeica presets are applied.

[@ebreckpo6563]

Thank you Matt for reviewing this camera. Below my opinion regarding the CL. The CL/TL2 has mostly be underrated by the Leica community. For me the CL ticks a lot of boxes. Although neglected for some time by Leica it received recently a firmware update, streamlining the camera with the interface of the Q2 as the SL2 and under the hood L mount updates. I bought the camera late in 2018 with an 18mm f/2.8 and the 23mm f/2.0 (second hand) It is a compact APS-C system delivering excellent results. A2 prints are no problem (even larger) It keeps the Leica DNA, just the functions you need. The range of T lenses is sufficient, I use mostly the Summicron 23mm TL. Planning to invest in the macro (only Leica lens with a 1:1 ratio without accessories). With the L mount alliance some other players will provide native APS-C lenses. I think Sigma have some available (soon). The viewfinder, although lower res than e.g. the Q2 or SL still holds up very nicely and has for me better eye relief compared to the Q/Q2 for people wearing glasses. I can manually focus even without magnification. The Leica CL lenses are optically excellent and have great resolving power. Adapting M ( 28-35-50-90mm) lenses works fine, more in line with the SL/SL2 albeit crop sensor but less heavy. I would be cautious with the wider M mount lenses and test them ( as with most wide optics M mount on a non M body camera sensor). I would use an adequate lens profile in the menu, if not 6 bit encoded. As the profile will correct somehow for colour drift in the corners. As my eyesight is getting worser with the years it is for me a viable alternative to the M system, although a M camera is still my favourite goto camera on most occasions. The mechanical shutter speed goes up to 1/8000s and you have electronic shutter up to 1/25000s (of course take note of the limitations of electronic shutter). Great when you want to shoot wide open in daylight. You can use zone focusing with M lenses and benefit of the larger depth of field compared to FF e.g. your 35mm will have a FF focal length of 50mm but with the depth of field of a 35mm. Unfortunately the TL lenses have no way to show a distance scale. What I am less found of: Battery life could be better but would make the camera larger. It is a compromise, if you are using lenses with image stabilisation the capacity drops fast. They are fairly inexpensive by Leica standards and you can use the Panasonic BLC12E. Leica is aware of the issue as they designed the protector leather halfcase with easy access to the battery compartment, you even have room for an extra memory card. A battery percentage indicator would be nice instead of the 3 bars we get now. Mechanical shutter sound is fairly loud (higher pitch) compared to the M10 (non P) but you have silent electronic shutter (knowing the limitations) The 4 way directional pad has sometimes a life on his own moving the AF point to an unknown position when the camera is on. You can of course lock the camera by a long press on the mode selector button. the only button who works is the shutter release. Or switch the camera off. It would be nice to have an option to lock the directional pad and keep the other functions alive. I am old school and still use focus and recompose. I expect the focus point in the middle. Some form of weather proofing, although TL lenses are not weatherproof, SL lenses are. For the video guys some external ports like a microphone input, although I am of the opinion this camera is designed as a stills photography tool. Some will miss the usb-c charging, as this is the hottest thing now. I'd rather use a separate battery charger than frying my camera motherboard due to a faulty usb charger. As with most electronic viewfinder cameras, shooting in high contrast situations can be challenging as the EVF has a lower contrast as the real contrast or even the contrast recorded on your raw files.Shooting in low light due to the lower framerate and flash photography can be challenging. I am keeping this camera as the images are excellent compared to the size, weight . We have of course other players in this segment and out of the context of this conversation. These are of course my own opinions With regards,

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

ebreckpo many thanks for your detailed write up overview of the CL. I’m sure other viewers will enjoy reading that too so thanks for sharing. The main point that jumped out to me were the arrow keys. I’ve never used these on my CL for focusing as focus front the centre then recompose. I recently bought a second adapter (non-Leica) where the 2 step zoom doesn’t work but I find I can magnify with the arrow keys either. I updated the firmware to see if that would fix it. I like the new interface but I’m still stuck as to how to magnify with a non-Leica adapter. I think I must have something set wrong somewhere.

[@ebreckpo6563]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thank you for your reply, regarding the arrow pad you get this problem when using native TL glass. I have a Novoflex Nikon F to L adapter I have a look if I can enable focus magnification.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

ebreckpo Thanks, yes I bought a new adapter which I hoped I could share with the KZbin world as my next big game changing find. But it can’t function as intended unless I can get the image to magnify as I need to critically focus fast glass. I can’t use the 2 step dial roll or arrow keys.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

ebreckpo .. sorry I re-read your comment. Yes I’ve seen things on DPreview from years ago says using arrow keys with Novoflex you can but I can seem to active the arrow keys if that makes sense. Thanks in advance if you find anything. If it works the device I have really will be a game changer 🙏🏻😬🤞🏻

[@ebreckpo6563]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I have tried some older Nikkor F lenses with the Novoflex adapter confirming that the I am not able to enable focus magnification , however focus peaking works, as per latest Leica firmware to date. With regards

[@mrmartygervais]

I use the Leica CL and I use it with Sigma L lenses, 30 mm and 56 mm, and I like the focus assist, and I have that set on “blue” because I can see that better, and it lights up along the edges of the image and this works beautifully. I would love to try a manual focus lens, and I will see if I can do that, but part of my problem is my eyesight. Good review of the camera and the manual focus lenses.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Marty, check out some of the Voigtlander lens video I did, they are great on the CL. I promise focusing is super easy, better than any camera I know, even if wear glasses.

[@mrmartygervais]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I will check that out. I'd be interested in maybe the 35 mm Voigtlander and so that would be a 50 on the CL. Saw the video now of how you focus manually by twisting the dial on the top. That seems so simple. Thanks for posting these videos. Very helpful.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@mrmartygervais thanks yes the 35 is excellent in the CL (giving close to 50 as you say)

[@johnkasianowicz6536]

Nice review. I have a digital Leica CL camera and love it. I also have all the TL AF lenses, and adapters for M and Leica R lenses. The Leica Summilux-TL 35 mm f/1.4 focuses to 0.4 m to the image plane and is a _very_ sharp lens. I’ll soon compare it to my Voigtländer Nokton-VM 35 mm f/1.2 (version 1). Also, the Leica Macro-Elmarit-TL 60 mm f/2.8 is a terrific AF/Portrait/Macro lens. The Summicron-TL 23 mm f/2 is only slightly larger than the Elmarit-TL 18 mm f/2.8. The latter almost makes the camera fit in a pocket.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks John, I had the 18 and have used the others but I like MF so went to M glass. (Last 2 vids show me using the CL in NY)

[@johnkasianowicz6536]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom You have great taste!

[@oakmere5653]

I started with a M240 but soon changed to an second hand SL with an Leica M adaptor. I use my M lenses ( Leica + Zeiss ZM's ) on the SL as well as L mount Sigma and Panasonic L mounts ( Part of the L mount lens alliance range ). Have just ordered a CL body. Thank you for an interesting series of programs.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks. Yes it is great that the L mount is growing. I might try to pick up an old SL at some point to "play" with to give me a bigger CL FF setup. You will love the CL paired with small M glass :)

[@takuan650]

I am using the CL now for a little over two and a half years with the 23mm f/2 Summicron and the 60mm f/2.8 macro Elmarit lenses. I also have a Novoflex adapter for 5 of my Pentax Ltd. primes. The Pentax lenses work surprisingly well on the CL and I don't feel to 'upgrade' to manual Leica lenses right now. The manual focussing on the CL is smooth and fast and so far the best camera kit for travel, street and landscape photography I have used so far. That camera is simple to operate and the results are excellent.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Takuan thanks, well summarised. Ah yes I forget the 60mm ..a great lens too. I tested it once a while back but I decided to stick with manual focus lenses. As you say if you have an existing lens lineup there is no need to change. I hear you can’t do the 2 step zoom shown in the video with the Novaflex, correct? Thanks.

[@takuan650]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom The Novoflex adapter is of high quality, made in Germany and pricey, but utilised my good quality Pentax prime lenses and saved me a lot of money. I have not tried the 2 step zoom option yet ( You got me onto that idea, Thanks). Il'see about that soon. I am afraid testing manual Leica lenses because that could make my bank account manager very angry. Thank You for all Your good content.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Takuan Leica lenses, haha, LTM are cheaper 👍🏻

[@fellowcitizen]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom can you do the two-step with the Voigtlaender lens as well, or only Leica? I came within a whisker of buying the Leica T, but ultimately decided not to due to the manual focus issues, but it sounds like they've improved a lot. I've "only" got ZM and VM lenses (missed a few great Summarit-M deals, alas) so I had the impression that they wouldn't benefit from the extra features of the Leica adaptor - but would love to be wrong. I now have an S1R, so getting a TL3 or something is on the cards. I can also attest to the Novoflex adaptor's quality - I just got it, and it's perfectly snug with the Nokton and the Planar.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Fellow Citizen nice. Yes any lens work but only with Leica ML adapter* (you could sell novaflex I guess..?)

[@marckyokay]

I found it to be much easier to have the magnification on the right dial. From the dial placements, the left would be in a similar spot like the M or Q Shutter dial, so I want shutter times on that one. Then the right dial for magnification became an instinct to me: Put the camera to your eye, thumb to the right, turn dial to punch in, immediately can do critical focus and do a half shutter press for composition. Works so great for me, I love this little marvel of a simplistic camera.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Great idea thanks and yes an excellent little camera!

[@kevwarrilow45]

Same here - right dial button to magnify

[@annenominous7220]

Thank you for your content. I enjoy your videos very much. To my eye, and brain, the TL lenses are better on the CL than the M lenses. Not sure why that is, but in an interview with Peter Karbe he stated that the TL lenses were among the best they ever made. In particular, the TL 35mm 1.4 and the TL 60mm macro. I agree with him :) I have the two new VC lanthar lenses, and still prefer the native TL lenses. There is good science behind why on the CL the TL lenses are better than M lenses. Similarly, the Leica SL lenses are dreamy (and heavy) on the CL, and M lenses are not equal to the SL lenses on the SL system. None the less, its fun to just play with the manual lenses... love those M lenses on a M body!!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Anne, you are indeed correct. TL lenses are said to be optically as good as some of the best SL lenses as crop lenses are easier to make, as I understand. For perfection and resolution TL and SL lenses will beat M lenses. (More like say digital Hasselblad files) but if you want something a bit more imperfect or enjoy the tactile feel of manual focusing M lenses are great. I used to shoot the Nikon D800 when it was #1 for 35mm digital (2012) and it was so perfect the files were dull so I eventually sold it and got the CCD sensor Leica M9 (and moved to film), for more interesting rendering.

[@jayoconnor4975]

I have been using the CL since 2018. I typically shoot with the 11-23 and 18-56. I have recently picked up the Voigtlander 35mm f1.4 mc. I have been surprised how quickly I have been able to produce acceptable shots using the manual focus. There is still room for improvement but……

[@rolloffilm1996]

CL have the focus assistant/piking ?

[@jayoconnor4975]

@@rolloffilm1996 Yes it does. But as with any system, it takes some practice to master.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Congrats on trying MF Jay. It should be really easy. Setup a call with me via MrLeica.com/zoom if you want help so you hit focus every time.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Focus peaking isn’t great with fast lenses (on many cameras).

[@jayoconnor4975]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks Matt. I have noticed that focus peaking is better stopped down than when fully open.

[@rmojica70]

Great video Matt a fellow CL user M mount lenses from Voigtlander aweaome .i wanted to ask how to move the focus peaking to the left dail right now it is in the scroll button next the screen how to change ?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Rafael Mojica thanks and great to hear you use the CL too 👌🏻 I set mine up 2yrs ago so I’m not sure exactly what I did. If you google it I think you can customize the functions of the top dials. I shoot M mode if that changes things for you?

[@rmojica70]

Ok thanks Matt because of your videos I went all in on the Leica CL with Voigtlander lenses beautiful images rhanks

[@ebreckpo6563]

The left dial push button cannot be programmed as it changes your mode settings P,A,S,M and a long press will lock the camera except the shutter release. However you can change the "wheel " for the magnification menu4- Customize Control- Wheel assignment. Focus peaking on right wheel same menu but right wheel assignment enable the focus peaking [ON]. When you do a long press on the right wheel button it will give you the selection of focus peaking. You can also disable unneeded functions. If it does not work upgrade the camera to the latest firmware (4.0 as of september 2020).

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Rafael Mojica thanks regarding the CL / video. Happy I could help 😃

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

ebreckpo 🙏🏻

[@mandingowarlord]

Matt, Thank you for the valuable information. I’m looking to get a Leica body and this helped.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

No problem Felix.. yes great little camera!

[@InArcadiaSum]

I'm using various L-mount lenses (Leica, Sigma-both auto, and 7Artisans-L-mount manual) and also M-mount Voigtlanders. I have the Leica M-L adapter, and also a 7Artisans M-L adapter, without the 6-bit connections. Interestingly, whilst focus peaking works fine for all M and L-mount manuals, magnification only works (using the right button) when the M-mount lens is on the Leica adapter, and not for the manual L-mount lenses or any M lenses when using the 7A adapter. It seems that you must have something with contacts, either in the lens or adapter, for magnification to work. I also find that sometimes MF is best on the Leica and Sigma autofocus lenses, to overcome a slight tendency to hunt in some situations.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Piscator Redux nice setup. Yes agreed the magnification only seems to work with the coded Leica adapter, annoyingly!

[@nickdardalis3535]

Hi Matt. Fellow cl owner. Whats your view on moving to the q2? Or should i stick with cl and expand the lenses including M? I have tl 18mm, 23mm and 18-56.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi Nick, good to hear you have the CL. I would say watch the Q+Q2 videos and look at the images. If you think they are much better than the CL then.. I know many love the Q system. The CL is less popular (in the Leica pole YT video I did the CL barely ranked!).

[@jeromearnould9940]

Good video . I love my CL :-) ... I did install the latest v4 firmware for the CL it gives some cool new features. did you install it ? and what are your thougth about it...

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi Jerome, a big thanks for joining us on Patreon! Yes I installed v4 too.. I like it.. I like the interface mostly (like other Leicas)

[@MrJojofoto]

Your images are stellar!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks!

[@herisamuelsen779]

What adapter do you recommend for, Leica tl2 to Manual lenses Olympus OM

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

You may need 2 adapters.. I can't find 1 for what you want. I normally use Leica L-Leica M adapter (#1) then say Leica M-LTM or Leica M-Nikon or... (#2). You could do the same with Canon EOS so Leica L-Canon - amzn.to/3kuq4ku ..then Canon-OM (#2) ..depending what lenses you use the most. The L mount is still quite new vs. most other mounts.

[@jasontaspridis]

Great video mate. How do you go about manual focus on the TL2? It's challenging to see details on a screen until you take the picture and zoom in (sometimes too late).

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

spiva hi this is the CL so I’m not sure how a TL2 works. The CL has an EVF so shows you the image, then per video roll the dial to magnify image, use lens to adjust focus and done. Works well 👍🏻

[@randolphcroft4212]

My eyesight is crap - astigmatism - and varies in light and time of day. So I live and die by AF. Much as I would love to be able to trust the diopter adjustment, it simply isn't possible. I have an SL2 and just recently got a CL. I love both of them; very different siblings. So, I want to expand the kit 18mm range on the CL - I do largely urban and landscape, with a touch of closeup (not quite macro). I appreciate your videos. Thanks. It helps. Question - would the 35 be a suitable alternative, in your opinion, to the 50 1.4, considering that I totally suck at manual in low light?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Randolph Croft yes the 35mm is a fantastic AF lens and perhaps the best optically for the CL. If you want to get closer try the 60mm but I think the 35mm is a better all rounder.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Randolph Croft ..you can also use TL lenses on your SL2 in crop mode.

[@randolphcroft4212]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom - Thanks, Matt. That will probably be my next purchase from B&H. A little more urban than the 18, and I think the 23 is too close to it. However, I can't promise I won't get one of those, too.

[@randolphcroft4212]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom - I've done that, and the reverse, as well. Silliest looking thing in the world is a CL with a Panasonic Lumix S-Pro 70-200 f2.8 on it. But it works.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@randolphcroft4212 ha yes that is what normally happens to me too :) I just signed up to the B&H affiliate program so that anyone wanting to support the channel can buy via the B&H link on the MrLeica.Com home page. (You mentioning B&H reminded me that I need to set it up!) It might take a few days for them to approve/ process it but if you've not bought your lens(es) by then I will put a link for people to use there (and can send you if easier). ..the 23mm is good as the size is much smaller.. though not 18mm small! :)

[@ProjectMockingbird]

So glad I found your channel and going through the back log now. :). From the KZbin quality video, the TL lenses have more micro contrast and may be a touch sharper overall from corner to corner, but seem more "harsh" compared to your 35mm M lens and less "leica like" in creaminess. If it were me I'd use your 35 on portraits and the 18 TL lens for street...it's just too bad the CL and/or TL don't have a tilt screen. It's one of the reasons I use a Samsung NX camera as I love street shooting TLR style with my OM or Konica AR glass (my R glass is a bit too big for street, TBH). I've shockingly put down my DP2 Merrill (which I love for all its flaws) just because it doesn't have a tilt screen.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Project Mockingbird thanks, re lenses yes agree. Maybe the CL2 will have tilt but it’s not really a Leica ‘thing’ I think.

[@ProjectMockingbird]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I think if Leica did something elegant like what Hassy did on their new back it could really work, but it would go against the "oneness" of the TL. They could even call it the TL-T.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Project Mockingbird yes good thinking! We will wait and see! :)

[@hermanbril2682]

Stunning pictures of (it must be said) stunning young women. And a stunning camera. Thank you for the thoughts on this gem. I have been looking for a camera a few years now. I have been a photographer in my youth before I chose music:-) I always had a Contax with 3 Zeiss lenses, a 25, 50 and a 85 . MF as you understand. I have used the Sigma SD10 for maaaany years with a same sort of set up but then as an amateur. Last year the SD 10 finally broke down. And I sold my lenses after discovering there isn't a good Sigma alternative (for me, that is). Now I saved a little bit of money this last 1,5 year and I have to decide: the Q2 or a CL with 1 or 2 lenses. But my eyesight is become much worse these last years. I just can't use the MF as I want. I tried the Q1 for a day and I was stunned! It felt so good, just everything was right. What would be your final advice? A CL or a Q2 (and maybe a Sigma DP3 Merril for the extra extreme sharp funthings)? Love your calm video's (no fancy music etc, just the essence), love the pictures. I am a city/landscape/architecture kind of fellow. Never did modelling. Did a lot of weddings though:-) Have a great one!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Herman, lovely to hear from you. I find the Q is similar to an M in size and weight. Fixed lens helps keep it simple. The CL is smaller and lighter with an excellent EVF. Very easy to focus M glass manually and this gives a compact setup. The 18mm ‘kit lens’ gives a small 28mm equivalent if you like that FL.

[@absonus]

Hello Matt ...... Leica M and CL user . Leica CL lenses 23 , 55-135 and a 35 Summilux in the post .M lenses 50 cron V5, VL40sc .28cronasph , 50 zmc sonnar ,90 Elmarit . Enjoy using them all on the CL . I mainly do street and sports (horses) I use Canon and Sony for that the later although I find the 55 -135 extremely capable for the faster stuff . Have to say that you`re getting some extremely pleasing results with your frames esp the BW.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Michael. Great lens line up! Yes i've been happy with the CL although if you saw my Q/SL/M10 series videos the CL seemed to fall behind.

[@absonus]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Matt ... yes I watched those .The SL is very tempting .I have my 400/4 DO ,70-200 2.8 and 85/1.2 Canon lenses which would go nicely with the SL in addition to the M lenses of course .My 5D3 is to be sold but the Sony A72 (currently home to the Canon lenses and the 40 , 85 and 135 Batis lenses ) will be difficult to replace unless its by an SL2 . I can envisage myself moving in that direction though . Oh dear .

[@absonus]

Well update I did buy an SL2s but still continue to use my M glass on the CL (as well as on the SL2s). Its getting harder to justify a digital M . :( Canon and Sony gear gone.

[@eacomments]

Hey Matt, I have a Leica TL and I am thinking of buying a Leica CL for portrait photography. I have the 23mm TL lens but can't decide if I should buy another TL lens or get M lenses and use them with an adapter yet. Anyway, nice comparison!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Edvinas, if you don;t use an EVF on the TL then you will love the CL for that alone. You can get a popentially a few/ lot of M mount/LTM mount lenses for the cost of TL lenses. I buy older glass. That's why I only own the 18mm TL.

[@eacomments]

Matt Osborne thank you for your reply. I was leaning towards that a bit as they are indeed cheaper and I can also use third party lenses with the CL. Not to mention, I might buy an M later in life, so I would already have some lens to go along with it. As for TL and CL, the viewfinder is exactly why I want to go for CL in addition to a more classic design. Otherwise, the TL is amazing.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@eacomments check out some of my older lens videos - Canon LTM / Voigtlander lenses / Vintage lenses. .they all offer amazing value

[@eacomments]

Matt Osborne do you have any suggestions for flashes for the CL? Would a Profoto or similar system work with the CL?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@eacomments If you don't mind joining patreon and messaging me there I can talk you through various options. There are some lighting vids on there too with more to come. www.patreon.com/mrleicacom

[@srkgv]

I am an M and CL User, I suggest to all owners of M and CL, to build your TL Lenses with short focal lengths because you can always adopt an M to the CL. By the way I just bought the 23 Summicron for the CL. and I LOVE IT.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Stephen Valera thanks Stephen, congrats on your 23mm! Yes great advice regarding TL lenses. 👍🏻

[@efromadler1390]

I've been using the CL for about two years. I have the the TL 18-56 which is my go lens and the 55-135. I also shoot a Voigtlander 35 Nockton and a 75mm 1.8. My challenge project this summer is shooting cyclists moving at high speed taking multiple shots using the high speed continuous exposure setting. To add to the challenge I used the 35mm Voigtlander at f11 for greater depth of field. Sadly, I got very few keepers; too many shots even at f11 were out of focus. As a result I've switched to the 18-56 which resulted in more keepers.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Efrom Adler thanks for sharing, you might find the 21mm better for that task at f11 (you cant really miss). Nice and small too :)

[@ebreckpo6563]

Manual focus at a pre defined distance e.g. road sign, road marks start shooting when your subject nears the pre- defined mark. You can lower your shutter speed (1/60 some experimentation needed) follow your subject while shooting in the same plane as the movement to have a blurred background and a sharp cyclist car, etc.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

ebreckpo 👌🏻

[@MrMauriziomazzoni]

The only problem with the CL seems to be that you don't have that big choice for wide lenses: the 18mm and 23 autofocus TL lenses only. With M mount lenses and the crop factor, you find yourself pushed towards longer focal lengths.....

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes good point. 15mm voigtlander? Great lens (see video) or 12mm Laowa lens (not tried but is L mount)... still not super wide with crop applied though as you say.

[@fellowcitizen]

Little known fact: there are five native lenses wider than the 18mm for the Leica CL, although four are are designed for full-frame: Sigma's 'Contemporary' APS-C primes (16mm f/1.4, 30mm f/1.4, and 56mm f/1.4) have just released in L mount, and are 100% compatible with the CL and TL as long as firmware is up to date (thanks to the L Mount Alliance). Since they've just released, there may be another update due from Leica and/or Sigma to assure compatibility. The 16mm is definitely the largest of those primes, though, while the 56mm is nice and compact (the Contemporary series are much smaller than the Art series.) Yet, at 400g, the 16mm APS-C still lighter than all the full-frame wides. Panasonic have a 'Certified by Leica' ~500g 16-35mm f/4 zoom. The widest native lens for the L mount is the Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 Art, and perhaps smaller than the Panasonic, but denser at 795g. The 'Art' line is higher quality than the 'Contemporary' line. (There's also the 14mm f/1.8 Art prime, but this was originally designed for full-frame SLRs, so it's likely to be replaced by a much smaller version, and it's huge. The first of the mirrourless 'DN' replacement f/1.4 Art lenses has just released, but it's the 85mm.) Leica's own zoom is the heaviest at around a kilogram: 16-35mm f/3.5-4.5 SL zoom Here is a size comparison: camerasize.com/compact/#570.804,726.690,570.727,726.871,726.836,639.732,639.906,726.921,ha,t (Some of the lenses don't show up for all cameras, so I've had to use substitutes.)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Fellow Citizen great details thanks for sharing! Yes it’s great to see the L mount coming more common / popular 👌🏻

[@fellowcitizen]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Leaving aside the budget-category, the L Mount has as many lens options (or is on track to very soon) as the E mount, and more than the new Canon/Nikon systems. Although mainly shooting Fuji, my oops-collected-along-the-way cameras were from Leica (M6), Panasonic (GM5) and Sigma (SD) so the L Mount Alliance was a fortunate combination. I can use the M lenses and Art lenses at their intended focal lengths on the S1R along with two native AF lenses. Even the microfourthirds primes can potentially be converted to L mount by Sigma, so all the lenses converge on the new system. Suddenly, it's a complete system even though I only got the camera itself since the last time we spoke here :)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Fellow Citizen it sounds like you planned the future perfectly! :)

[@alanandkarenbootholdfield6179]

Hi I just own one TL lens which is the short zoom i prefer to use manual focus lenses. I Own CL , M8.M3,M4 i love the coolers that the seem to produce

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Alan and Karen Booth Oldfield thanks and great cameras! Yes I normally use MF lenses too. I shoot mostly b&w so don’t see the colours so much. Good to know though, thanks.

[@henrywyau]

Hi Matt, thanks again for your experience on the lovely CL. I use M240 most of the time and has a few M lens like 50 1.4, 35 2, 90 2.8, 21 2.8, 50 2. For the wider side I use TL 11-23 ASPH which I found it stick on my CL most of the time.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Henry Au thanks Henry! Yes the 11-23 is a nice FL range. I’ve started using my M240 again recently since getting the EVF :)

[@henrywyau]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom That’s great. I love my M240 a lot. But the EVF is not as good as the EVF on CL.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Henry Au Yes agreed. For me the M240 gives me full frame and the EVF opens up doors to new lenses to play with, and the Leica CL is just easy.

[@henrywyau]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom yes. Me too.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Henry Au 👍🏻

[@mohdfarizolabdulghani7208]

I am still using it in 2024 and like it so much

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Me too!

[@antonomaseapophasis5142]

I use a Ricoh GR III & a Canon EOS 5D (I) I do agricultural "street" and landscape photography thinking of moving to Leica CL or SL2 It seems to me that once you go from the actually pocketable Ricoh to the bulk of a CL, you might as well go full on and take an SL2 Decades ago, my camera was a Leica rangefinder with a little lens that you could turn and push back into the camera body I suppose I have succumbed to the mysticism of Leica image quality, I have not really proved for myself. Is the SL2 really a quantum difference from the CL?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Antonomase Apophasis hi CL vs SL, jump yes, mostly in size. If you shoot a 28mm FL the 18mm plus CL is one of the smallest Leica setups you can get and combined they are still smaller and lighter than I think all SL lenses. The SL2 offers more resolution (see SL2 video) but combined with SL lenses it is too be to consider for me. SL with M lenses I could be tempted. I don’t need 40mp but you might want that for your work.

[@antonomaseapophasis5142]

Thanks for the reply From your observation I can see why the CL suits your work which is very intimate, don’t want to break rapport with a big ole machine My problem is that I have a few images which I think are worthy of making into huge prints When I hand them over to printer, his reaction is invariably “not enough in the file.” On occasion I have had to confess to taking images I really like with a phone. I think my destiny is an SL2, but I am worried that I am choosing the SL2 over a Fuji GFX image quality for snobbery rather than proven image quality superiority

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Antonomase Apophasis Thanks, yes I use big machines too but they tend to be film. Hasselblad for example! :). Saying that if funds allow and you want intimate image quality you might want to consider the Hasselblad X1D too. Bigger sensors from that and the Fuji should in theory offer better results vs a high MP 35mm sensor. Also look at the Leica S range. I have used these before. See a few examples on my Flickr and MrLeica.com blog.

[@antonomaseapophasis5142]

Thank you Mr. Leica.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Antonomase Apophasis 👍🏻

[@noseycomic499]

My first in the Leica pool was the CL w/ 18-56 lens purchased in December before the US price increase. I have since purchased the 35mm 1.7 Summilux, the Sigma 50mm 1.2 Art. All great lenses. Plus I have access to the LUMIX 24-105 that came with my S1R and LUMIX Leica 70-200 S -Pro L mount lenses. So I am covered to say the least. In the last two months I have acquired a Q2 and M-10-P. My M mount collection is a 50mm Summicron, 75mm Summarit, and a TTArtisans 35mm 1.2. I love my CL for its size and versatility, the images and I am anxious to see how it goes with the recent firmware update. Thanks for the video.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Henry. It sounds like you have a great setup. If you enjoy Leica, models and/ or portrait lighting amongst other things you might like my Patreon. You sound like you've accumulated a lot of gear since December. Congrats!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

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[@danMdan]

Alas the Leica M to L adapter is a ridiculous 350GBP or thereabouts new, while a decent Chinese adapter is around 30GBP !

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

I highly recommend the 7Artisan M-L adapter (see the video I did)

[@einarlandre5386]

I use the CL, have the 18, 35, 60 and 55-135 TL lenses, as well as a 60mm R mount and 35mm M sumilux, 50mm M cron and 75mm M cron. Have also a bunch of old Nikon AIS glass that I have used with success. The CL is a great little camera.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Einar Landre Thanks Einar! Great lens line up!! Yes you might have predicted some of my future videos mentioning old lenses ;). I will say no more but that is to follow.

[@joelreid3914]

Hi Einar. I have a question for you if you don't mind! I've heard the 35mm summilux TL is amazing and I was wondering, autofocus aside, how you find it compares with using the 35 summilux m mount with adapter? I see by your list of lenses that you have both so I thought I'd ask. Thanks!

[@einarlandre5386]

@@joelreid3914 The 35mm TL is superb and it has a minimum focal length of 30cm which I have found valuable.

[@joelreid3914]

​@@einarlandre5386 Thanks Einar! Do find the images to have a similar look?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@joelreid3914 Hi Joel, excuse me for jumping in too.. after testing the 35Lux TL is does give a almost identical look to my 50Lux M. Very sharp.

[@jessekoskinen]

That upcoming series of LTM lenses sounds very interesting. At some point I would like to buy a Leica IIIG, so learning about the lenses is a must.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Jesse Koskinen thanks Jesse! Yes for sure and the iiiG is a lovely camera :)

[@jameslu9435]

Still torn btw a Leica CL or SL2s or Nikon ZF... Briefly own a TL2 with a 18 TL lens. I took the TL2 out for a dinner for a special occasion and the low light image quality is just unbearable and I was quite embarrassed when asked to share the photos. I sold the Tl2 combo eventually shortly after. My experience with TL2 adapting m lenses was also not very pleasant. I own quite a few m or ltm lenses. Always want to buy a nice camera to adapt m lenses on. SL2s is too big for walk around in my opinion. And Nikon ZF is not that Leica(its just personal opinion) . I also shoot fujifilm and like the form factor but it's kind of weird to adapt m lenses on fujifilm bodies.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Tough choice.. SL2-s for that nice FF look and VF, CL for size (pair with a fast lens for low light. A new 28/1.4 or small Nokton 1.4. Nikon is Nikon as you say (I like film Nikon (see tonight's video) but not interested in the digital ones even if it does make shooting M lenses very easy).

[@jameslu9435]

I might wait for the ZF2. Currently adapting my m or ltm lense on a Z6 with either techart mtz02 or a dumb adaptor if the lens is too heave or have fle@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

[@bluein2red423]

We can't tell a difference in the video - the value would be in giving your opinion and experience, having seen the images properly.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

BlueIn2Red thanks, sorry I was trying not to force my opinion on people. The image quality of the TL lenses is excellent but I prefer the size of small M lenses vs the TL 35/1.4 and I prefer to buy metal at glass not electronics so I feel safer buying M glass / older M mount lenses. But the image quality of TL lenses is excellent no question and AF is fast and accurate.

[@EEV776]

I own both TL and M lenses, however on my Leica CL I still prefer to use M lenses. My TL lenses: Super-Vario-Elmar-TL 11-23, APO-Vario-Elmar-T 55-135, APO-Macro-Elmarit-TL 60mm f/2.8 ASPH I own many M lenses, two of my favorite ones on CL body is: Summaron-M f5.6 28mm and Summilux-M 50mm f1.4 I do architectural / landscape / street photography, lots of low light or night photography, I noticed that TL lenses give me much more noise using same 100 ISO. TL lenses is amazing for convenience, when you need auto focus to shoot things quick, or lens like Super-Vario-Elmar-TL 11-23 gives you incredible variety, but color rendering is not as good as M. M lens photography with small tripod using this lens, Summilux-M 50mm f1.4 is a spectacular lens to, it gives me exceptional bokeh results, great low light lens, that feels perfect ergonomically on CL.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks for sharing. Yes I've been tempted by the Sumamron!! :) Yes the Summilux-M 50mm f1.4 is one of the best for sure. You might enjoy the Voigtlander Nokton 35mm f1.2 as you can focus at 0.5m and it gives a 50mm equivalent. It just a Lux look. My most used lens on the CL.

[@nickdattner8680]

The M lenses are better

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes I think so too!

[@noseycomic499]

Man stay out the sun or get hat! That looks painful! Great video two thumbs up!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Henry Anthon thanks Henry! Ha not sun, I developed a skin condition in the last 12 months. Doc says it’s fixable with cream I just need to get organised and go get some! Family doctor noticed it a few weeks ago during regular meet-up. Back to normal face in a few month hopefully!