Man i see Steve and immediately stop what I’m doing, dudes is a wealth of knowledge!
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy, trying to get the info out there
@davidnielsen44903 жыл бұрын
Good evening Matt and Steve, You are very good with your details Steve. I appreciate architects who are very detail minded. When I had my millwork business, I enjoyed working with architects who were detailed minded and would listen to their suppliers. Steve, I've noticed you do that. That is the sign of a good architect.
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the kind words, we ALL have stuff to learn
@davidnielsen44903 жыл бұрын
@@stevenbaczekarchitect9431 You are so right! Every day, I learn something new every day in my profession. www.davidanielsen.com
@jeffj24953 жыл бұрын
IPE - straight from Brazil rainforests to a floor near you. Ipe species grow in very low densities, with mature trees only occurring once per 300,000 to 1,000,000 square feet (3 to 10 hectares) of forest area. This necessitates the clearing of large sections of rainforest trees (most of which are of little commercial value). That deck you are standing on - is probably from 100+ year old trees, yet the deck will probably only be there for 20 years.
@kebonyusa3 жыл бұрын
Should have used Kebony, the sustainable alternative to ipe. More stable too.
@jeffj24953 жыл бұрын
@@kebonyusa Looks like Kebony is a great alternative. Certainly better than chopping down 100+ year old trees to make 20 year external decking.
@jameshalleron74843 жыл бұрын
Matt, Ya did it again. Thanks for showing us the guts of that pool area. The craftsmanship is a rare site that I dont get to see in Florida where homes seems to fall out of the sky in neat order and still use building methods that have proven not to last. Thanks again.
@seanm32263 жыл бұрын
What building methods for example?
@jimcahill63303 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work, Steve.
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@jmhinescj3 жыл бұрын
The backer rod under the panels is genius
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
We've done it a bunch
@AnotherMe8903 жыл бұрын
@@stevenbaczekarchitect9431 Nice work Steve! Was that backer rod down the center of each panel from peak to eve? Or did it go from the left side to the right side of the roof, under all the panels at once, half way from the peak to the eves?
@tracktrend97223 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@seanroberts3813 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work Steve. I'd work for him any day.
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@bluenadas3 жыл бұрын
That rust stain on the pool deck makes me sad
@burtonguster29833 жыл бұрын
That’s not rust stain. That’s red dirt stains.
@AidanSkoyles3 жыл бұрын
Will look awful in a few years. Poor planning
@davidv69593 жыл бұрын
The rust colored staining is from iron supplements sprayed onto the lawn. It can be removed using phosphoric acid.
@bluenadas3 жыл бұрын
@@davidv6959 doubtful. I'm guessing the sprinkler system is using well water with high iron
@mdfavero0073 жыл бұрын
One amazing detail I’d love to see more closely- you’re amazing soffit detail, brilliantly absent of a bird- box. You appear to have pushed the bird box back to house but I can’t see the detail of how this comes together with your 3’ soffits. It’s so clean, so smart, and like everything else here.....the simple details
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@Jesse-gv9tf3 жыл бұрын
Amazing details!!
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Long Live Our Buildings
@Dav33 жыл бұрын
Im thinking that fence costs more than my house
@Tavbiy3 жыл бұрын
As soon as he said there were water channels built into the bottom groove you know you're looking at a +50k fence.
@yusufnoah42023 жыл бұрын
i guess it is quite randomly asking but does anybody know of a good place to stream newly released tv shows online?
@henrycaspian42973 жыл бұрын
@Yusuf Noah i would suggest Flixzone. Just search on google for it :)
@rodneygerald1263 жыл бұрын
@Henry Caspian Definitely, have been using FlixZone for since april myself :D
@yusufnoah42023 жыл бұрын
@Henry Caspian Thank you, I went there and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :D I appreciate it!!
@10tenman103 жыл бұрын
I liked the water draining detail on the epay fence gate.
@cpad0073 жыл бұрын
ipe :)
@johnfitzpatrick24693 жыл бұрын
G, day from Sydney, Australia. * I once saw chain downpipe from the rainwater gutters. * I have a concern with mesh pool fencing and possible toe holds for climbing. Take care, have fun🌏🇦🇺
@petersharp903 жыл бұрын
Yeah that pool fence would definitely not be to code in some areas of the US.
@Takumi-San3 жыл бұрын
great build. Where's the guttering on that roof?
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
No gutters
@Takumi-San3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenbaczekarchitect9431 Thanks Steven. Was that a deliberate design choice, and for what purpose? I'm imagining it was retain some aesthetic quality?
@townsendliving97503 жыл бұрын
Got me kind of worried about my upstairs shower details, not sure how we're g wagon nna do it yet but it's a concrete slab 2nd floor, so I dont have the room for a big recess, but I want polished concrete floors and a curb less shower, I was thinking recess a stainless steel pan in the concrete, but not sure how its gonna work yet, only a 4" thick slab
@toadamine3 жыл бұрын
Have an engineer make sure your house can support that kind of weight upstairs.
@quacktony3 жыл бұрын
Def some good details, polo blue...mmmm
@Tavbiy3 жыл бұрын
Brushed metal roof looks nice with the polo blue building. They used what looks like black metal trim around the exterior windows and doors though. I wonder how it would have looked with a brushed metal trim too.
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Black is the window frames
@20centurysquirrel3 жыл бұрын
Needs a video on pool plant rooms. Im sure theres some innovations there.
@shahsmerdis3 жыл бұрын
in planet every day people, I finally ordered my first Marvin elevate window, to replace the single pane marvin that my late father put in (Storm damage) so happy. LETS GET GOING !
@shahsmerdis3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video btw, thank you for the inspiration. everything begins with your first step towards high performance house.
@mrsmrich13 жыл бұрын
Love to see more about those curbless shower details in slab and pier and beam!
@jackhammer83643 жыл бұрын
Looks Comfortable!
@christianartman3 жыл бұрын
Wow! What size is that pool by the way?
@10tenman103 жыл бұрын
Granite curbs. Great idea.
@4philipp3 жыл бұрын
I like the roof joist system. Can that be used on a ~30x50 roof instead of building a full cathedral ceiling?
@chriswithrow31073 жыл бұрын
Yep, just Google "scissor truss" and you'll find 60+ ft spans.
@Alex.smiffy3 жыл бұрын
what was the siding that takes paint beautifully?
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Boral Tru Exterior
@victorvek52273 жыл бұрын
Will he be applying, or does he apply, any type of oil for to bring back the luster of the inlaid Ipe wood and provide UV protection?
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
It will naturally grey out
@MrSparkums3 жыл бұрын
Great! When I win the lottery I know who i'm callin..
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
In the waiting.....
@Slowhand8713 жыл бұрын
Ipe is a bear to work with. Pre drill counter sink each screw and stainless is soft that can break. Also if you can a drain under the firepit will help certainly 12" drainrock
@rjthomasindyusa3 жыл бұрын
Are you going to revisit that 'rammed earth' project?
@noashaw4083 жыл бұрын
5:31 wait that's a POOL HOUSE I thought it was the actual house
@curiousfirely3 жыл бұрын
The main house is really over the top. Frankly I would rather just have the pool house to live in!
@rayfedorak47703 жыл бұрын
heated inground hot tub?
@csealand3 жыл бұрын
Say what you will about America, but, we know how to build stuff.
@alanr7453 жыл бұрын
Some people do...and they’re doing well on KZbin. Ha.
@TrogdorBurnin8or3 жыл бұрын
For the wealthy. This fence+deck cost more than my house. The whole pool compound, several times more.
@alexrail_893 жыл бұрын
I would say yes but in the high end houses. From what I have seen the mid end houses in america are way low in quality compared to European.
@MatthewLiegey3 жыл бұрын
@@alexrail_89 American housing is built to be inexpensive, not to the typical levels of european housing. All of our costs are cheap relatively speaking, so there's really no need to throw money at triple pane windows, 8" walls, excessive masonry (when you have forests for days) etc. Just simply what the market bears...
@TheoVANBOXTEL3 жыл бұрын
Can you gif me some details of the roof and especially the gutter between de twoo decks 90 degrees?
@berninme8 ай бұрын
Incredible overall, but the fire pit looks like a total afterthought.
@oldtimefarmboy6173 жыл бұрын
Windows not going to see any water! Unless one of those 120 MPH winds come through then it might be seeing waves of water spray.
@ThisTall3 жыл бұрын
Ok Matt you’ve arrived. You’ve succeeded in getting me to click a video called Pool Gate AND watch until the end.
@ezDwm3 жыл бұрын
Eat the Rich!!!
@MhUser3 жыл бұрын
you can have lamps hanging over a ping pong table like this; there is no 'order' in that; good luck playing defensive
@andytaus19393 жыл бұрын
What's the point of a pool fence when any young kid can climb the mesh to get over it? It'd be safer having NO fence at all. It must just keep some of the wildlife (kids excluded) out.
@sergeybebenin3 жыл бұрын
There's actually code that dictates vertical planks/pickets for that reason. Maybe because the mesh is so fine that it's not a problem (can't stick your foot in there). I'd like to know
@jodyrolandconstruction65773 жыл бұрын
Can’t hide money 💴
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Can't hide quality
@jodyrolandconstruction65773 жыл бұрын
@@stevenbaczekarchitect9431 I don’t believe I said anything about quality. It’s a nice build.
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
@@jodyrolandconstruction6577 Exactly - I was agreeing with you - good things cost money
@DigitalBenny3 жыл бұрын
Hmmmmm....🤔🤔🤔 THIS doesn't look like a T-Stud video EITHER!!! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄😝
@justgivemethetruth3 жыл бұрын
11:36 - Does he have that backwards? Shouldn't it be - all windows and doors leak except for the ones that do not see water.
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
It was a test for the listeners - you passed, Great Job!!
@timgleason25273 жыл бұрын
Not that I could afford this anyway, but when I hear “tropical hardwood” I don’t think about great things environmentally. Anyone know anything about Ipe?
@Dale1C3 жыл бұрын
I don't believe it is on any of the official endangered species lists yet, and we still build decks out of it occasionally for clients in Toronto, but I share your concerns.
@mgolf823 жыл бұрын
A lot of Ipe wood is slow growth trees in the rainforest. So it’s not great . Fun fact about ipe if it’s real it sinks .
@joshuathorson88133 жыл бұрын
Ipe is not a great choice. Many environmental builders advocate black locust as it grows quickly and has similar rot resistance and hardness. Plus its flowers smell great!
@davidnielsen44903 жыл бұрын
Pie is a great wood for exterior use as it is very rot resistant. It is harvested in areas where they manage the forests.
@kenbrown28083 жыл бұрын
there is an agency that monitors and certifies commercial tropical hardwood farms. so you can get product from environmentally bad practices, or you can get certified product that comes from sustainable tree farms. (source: a quick google search)
@mitchdenner97433 жыл бұрын
What no iron treatment for the sprinkler system? Cheap bastard!😄
@613kc3 жыл бұрын
That's what that was. Thx
@TheBeowulf553 жыл бұрын
So much knowledge and building details to think about on future builds. Sure not everybody's budget will slide for it but some of the principles are applicable to everyone. Most importantly... Don't swim alone 😂
@lizbiancoismydesignsherpa2 жыл бұрын
Loved the top on the roof
@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb3 жыл бұрын
Nice work Steve. Understated, but anything but simple. Matt's gotta be helping your visibility to these high-end clients.
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@kadmow3 жыл бұрын
Also placing the backer rod between the roof sheathing and the standing seam panel (as well as "pre-oilcaning" the panel) it will give a "capillary break" in the center of the panel - allowing any potential condensate /rain intrusion to drain down to the gutter - rather than being "sealed" - via capillary forces between the membrane and the panel.. (not forgetting that a little aircirculation also hellps transport the radiant heat from the sun up and away - probably a very minor contributor. (Funny how a single asthetic detail can also affect the other factors (air water and heat)
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@aaronoosterhoff54493 жыл бұрын
steve is a boss, lol when he's like; "got a little firepit action here"
@ccwnyc56713 жыл бұрын
He is da Boss.
@aaronoosterhoff54493 жыл бұрын
guys shirt matches his shoes.. he's next level
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
@@aaronoosterhoff5449 cant mess around man
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
@@ccwnyc5671 just trying to share a little bit
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Gotto throw a little landscaping love
@sergeybebenin3 жыл бұрын
Could you please post links or at least store name / product name for this stainless mesh? Thanks!
@micahwatson90173 жыл бұрын
Dude! Steve, thanks for sharing the details. The backer rod trick under the roof panels to create tension is gold! 👌
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
My pleasure, thanks for joining us
@AnotherMe8903 жыл бұрын
Was that backer rod down the center of each panel from peak to eve? Or did it go from the left side to the right side of the roof, under all the panels at once, half way from the peak to the eves?
@nurnabilah19213 жыл бұрын
I like the style simple, functional yet elegant at the same time.
@Yesshecancan2 жыл бұрын
Wow...this is gorgeous.
@seanpalmer84723 жыл бұрын
Nice pool house...too bad the swim season there is so short to that you won't be able to enjoy it much. If I were building it, It would be an indoor pool with large operable doors (open in the summer, closed in the winter) around the whole perimeter to be able to use it year round. Of course, _I_ can't stand to go more than a week without being in the water, so I may be a little biased.
@kenbrown28083 жыл бұрын
we have a local time share facility that built their pool house such that an arm of the pool goes into a large wing of the pool house, and there is a roll up door that can close to keep the weather off that arm of the pool.
@Niccodemure3 жыл бұрын
Pretty build. I would like to get some acoustic treatments in that game room though. It will be hard to stay in that room for long.
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Furniture not here yet
@Niccodemure3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenbaczekarchitect9431 Good point. I would have to think about how I would use tiles in there anyway. Such a nice space I would hate to ruin the feel. Perhaps Acoustic tiles with pictures on the fabric or wooden diffusers with some absorptive properties. But, just a lovely build with some fantastic design and engineering touches.
@nickm97293 жыл бұрын
matt wheres the gutters? drain chain in corner at valley , are the horizontal gutters concealed? maybe roof just drains right off, but wouldnt be my preference
@channingtaylor26723 жыл бұрын
Come to TN, build my house sir!
@kdrguru3 жыл бұрын
Cowen Associates my fav engineer.
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Jon is top shelf - always appreciate working with him
@bruceryan59193 жыл бұрын
don't swim alone. 99% of people will ignore that
@demagab3 жыл бұрын
Especially because they put it in the shower, where you can see after you've already swum
@StreamingF1ydave3 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of ipe
@ag4wake3 жыл бұрын
the plumbing on the HTP tank is a bit strange. 3/4 to 1/2 and then back to 3/4 at the shutoff valve? No dielectric fitting is good, those tanks don't require dielectric and manual explicitly says not to use it.
@manfredvonrichthofen47383 жыл бұрын
rich folks sho live good.
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
This homeowner worked for everything they have - his discretion to enjoy his hard work sir
@stevemoog37403 жыл бұрын
Matt can you share where the wire fencing for this fence came from? I’m looking to build something like this but can’t find the supplier. Thank. Steve Moog Suffolk VA.
I couldn't help notice a pretty young woman shown for 5 seconds at 3:13.
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Be nice, that's my daughter that works with me - And I own a gun, or two, or three.....and I don't miss - ever
@robertrisk933 жыл бұрын
@@stevenbaczekarchitect9431 chill out soldier. Just asking. 😂😂😂
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
@@robertrisk93 drop the soldier.....Marine! and I am chill, just havin fun like you
@10tenman103 жыл бұрын
The pool house is fantastic. I like the metal roof; looks great.
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@MikeKobb3 жыл бұрын
Looks really nice. I'm puzzled by the drainage for the roof, though. There will be a rain chain for the valley, which makes sense, but I don't see any gutters along the edges. Maybe just not installed yet?
@Adam-vp4oe3 жыл бұрын
In another video they talked about how there are kickers on the edging of the roof that kicks the water out, then it should drain into the drainage system built around the foundation of the home
@AidanSkoyles3 жыл бұрын
Fancy but forgot gutters!
@steinachu1 Жыл бұрын
I would love to know the dimensions of this pool house, looking to build something with a similar style and footprint!
@xoxo2008oxox3 жыл бұрын
What a sweet poolhouse!
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@marshallmcfarland75553 жыл бұрын
If I ever get the money U2 guys are going to build me a house or if you’re feeling really generous you can volunteer your time and materials and I would be really grateful lol
@speedbuggy16v3 жыл бұрын
that polo blue looks great, love the rock garden detail for drainage at the valley.
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@msjlewis73 жыл бұрын
@@stevenbaczekarchitect9431 which brand paint provides the Polo Blue?
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
@@msjlewis7 Benjamin Moore
@msjlewis73 жыл бұрын
@@stevenbaczekarchitect9431 Thank you so much!!!
@robburgess45563 жыл бұрын
Where is a 4' fence legal around a pool? We need 6' with a locking gate.
@FredMcIntyre3 жыл бұрын
😃👍🏻👊🏻
@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.-3 жыл бұрын
looks solid. What a great piece of property, too.
@One_Crazy_Dog_Mum3 жыл бұрын
Love the fence, craftsmanship is amazing , but it wouldn’t pass code in Australia kids can get their toes in the mesh & climb up to access the lock.
@jasond39183 жыл бұрын
First thing I noticed too. Toe holds everywhere.
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Typically around here people use chain link fence, same difference
@gclement77163 жыл бұрын
In the shower where Matt is describing the floor and drain, is it me or are the white wall tiles not laid properly and looking aweful? A build of this level shouldn't have wavy tiles.
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
It's the camera/angle, they are not wavy
@Thejrb113 жыл бұрын
That property is so sick! That is my dream pad.
@beurky3 жыл бұрын
Awesome work. Some really good tips here for modern building. That shower floor detail though... I tried to do something similar with continuous concrete floor into the shower. what a pain in the butt that was. My approach was different that yours, where I made a custom drain from stainless and placed it before the concrete pour, and that caused it's own issues with the concrete guys. So I hear ya... The pain we endure for beauty.
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work
@Padoinky3 жыл бұрын
Matt: High quality, intricate design/build, isn’t “nerdy”.... it’s actually the union of science, art, design and skill!
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
This is a symphony....
@10tenman103 жыл бұрын
3 foot roof overhang. Great idea.
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
I agree
@Sazonman Жыл бұрын
Not my cup of tea🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
@sw6513 жыл бұрын
I love hearing Steve geek out on details. He's a talented guy. Pool house looks great
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Long Live Our Buildings
@toadamine3 жыл бұрын
"I'm high on water management" Yet no raingutter?
@nickdolan1993 жыл бұрын
Remember, the entire decking area is a drain for water management
@toadamine3 жыл бұрын
@@nickdolan199 I'm talking raingutter on the roof of the house.
@nickdolan1993 жыл бұрын
@@toadamine I understand. But with the 3-ft overhang I imagine there would be no harm in letting it just run off and into the decking. It does leave me curious for the rear of the structure though...
@toadamine3 жыл бұрын
@@nickdolan199 yeah, that's super ghetto, especially with all the area underneath that people will walk under the edge of the roof and have a waterfall on their head during rain...
@Gumdaar13 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, but then I saw the gravel catch basin under the valley. I don't see it but think there is a concealed gutter - if true is amazing.
@ChikNoods3 жыл бұрын
Money is cool
@RashidAli-dx8lo3 жыл бұрын
Damn they use granite in there curbs must be nice
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
It's a standard pool coping in New England
@gregoryunderwood41213 жыл бұрын
GREAT attention to detail!!! ❤❤❤
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Long Live Our Buildings
@ATABAJS3 жыл бұрын
fantastic job! saving this in the "insperation-playlist"
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@cabernet53 жыл бұрын
@@stevenbaczekarchitect9431 hey Steve! Do you know what that fence latch system is, manufacturer or type? Thanks! The design of those trusses is amazing on this pool house by the way!
@jerryshigan23053 жыл бұрын
Here's some awesome details nobody can afford 😂
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Not quite true, but keep on keepin on
@jerryshigan23053 жыл бұрын
@@stevenbaczekarchitect9431 Humor. Chill. Love the work.
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
@@jerryshigan2305 thanks bud!!
@demoweekends54413 жыл бұрын
👍
@tomcrockett79413 жыл бұрын
You guys are the “real builders”.
@stevenbaczekarchitect94313 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@eugenemeyer74643 жыл бұрын
iron in irrigation, why is it not filtered out? a simple enough solution
@toyman703 жыл бұрын
I noticed the iron staining too but it could have been from some of the fertilization applied to the lawn and not removed from the decking areas
@eugenemeyer74643 жыл бұрын
@@toyman70 staining is also present at firepit on tiles and granite as well as granite pillars at the gate, IPE seems to be stained heavily too, such a waste using top-notch materials and ruining it with a rust stain
@DannyHanes3 жыл бұрын
What color blue is that on the outside of the pool house?
@DannyHanes3 жыл бұрын
Ah... commented before getting to the end lol - Polo Blue
@paulfrey56533 жыл бұрын
Would appreciate knowing any details on the gate hardware. Thanks
@justlooking8133 жыл бұрын
This house isn't even done yet and it already has iron rust stains on the stone work. They checked every detail aside from the water system.
@ebernhards33 жыл бұрын
Does anyone water their yard with filtered water? I think it's just an unfortunate placement of the sprinklers.
@Cramduck3 жыл бұрын
you sure that isn't just splashback from the soil? we've got orange soil in my area that does this after every rain
@justlooking8133 жыл бұрын
@@ebernhards3 Probably very few. This is a great example of a potential use case.
@justlooking8133 жыл бұрын
@@Cramduck The dirt at 1:32 doesn't look like clay. I suppose it could be, but this looks a lot like rust from a sprinkler system.
@ColtonBlumhagen3 жыл бұрын
6:06 Surely not the John Cowan I'm thinking of. lol
@ColeSpolaric3 жыл бұрын
I wish I had the money to afford half of this lol
@DesignRhythm3 жыл бұрын
Very cool details, nice work everyone
@davidbruce53773 жыл бұрын
What?? No exterior insulation.
@Doc-Tee3 жыл бұрын
Must’ve found a money tree 🌳. Normal folk can’t afford shit like this