Whats New in Siding - 2018 Intl Builders Show

Matt Risinger and Jordan Smith report on behalf of www.jlconline.com hitting on the new trend that a lot of new siding companies are coming out with.
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Mentioned -
www.certainteed.com/stonefacade/
www.aspyredesign.com
www.thermoryusa.com/rebel-ser...
www.boralamerica.com/stone/ver...
www.certainteed.com/icon/
Music by: www.TakeTones.com

[@futureriver]

This guy needs his own show. Love his personality and method of explaining... real easy for someone who’s not in construction.

[@fla-bushcraftprepper941]

Great video. Very informative reviews of the siding products. My house was built in 1921, with wood lap siding. The front left corner of the porch kept rotting out every three years, it is a north corner. The house has an odd placement on the lot. Anyways, I decided to pick up some 12 X 7 1/4 inch Hardie board planks. I primed them and painted them, then installed them. That was about 12 years ago. They look like the day I installed them. As they do not match the wood lap siding, I did that whole end of the house. End each plank on a stud and they will stay firmly in place. They recently went through Hurricane Irma here in Florida and did just fine. I enjoy these videos, Very Much. They keep me up on code on new products I might not have known, if I did not frequent this channel.

[@orreng]

Great video guys. Y'all have fun and be safe!

[@lornesteed2417]

Thanks Matt and Jordan!

[@Bangkok-ik1fp]

Great products. Now the issue is finding a quality/certified installer that won't gouge you on labor. I find many won't even talk with you because the job is small.

[@4philipp]

I like the Versetta stone panels. Looks very much like a DIY style product. And with a zipR-9 panel behind it, you can fasten it anywhere.

[@dennis-qu7bs]

Brilliant reviews, guys. Thanks!

[@josefernandez-leon4024]

Your programming is absolutely fantastic in this and other videos MR. Thanks.

[@ByersLeafguard]

Great overview of some great new products!

[@cathyjones3403]

Thank you because I’m interested in getting my siding replaced as soon as I can afford it ha. Seriously you gave me a lot of info

[@JasonLawrence]

Excellent video Matt! Great information and your video quality is incredible!!

[@westpro5896]

Great video. Great insights of all the siding products.

[@ms.upendaglover7868]

you have the best building channel on youtube.

[@kylegushue]

what gentle little guys. wonderful.

[@wjthehomebuilder]

Great products from this years IBS. Definitely nothing "irritable" there! My personal opinion is the Boral -Versetta Stone looks more natural than the CertainTeed stone. But interesting how they have similar fastening methods. I like how the science approach is catching on with the product developers. I have three houses on the schedule to build this year and will be definitely utilizing some of the highlighted products. Thanks for the continued great videos! - Wally

[@2kfixit]

Hi Matt, Like your shows and very informative. Its 2021 in horizon and am sure there are lot of new siding choices now with new technologies. One thing would like to see on your show is difference between vinyl which is widely used here in NE and other siding materials. Most of the towns here has either vinyl or stucco in mid range to high end. For those builders and home owners building homes traditionally would be a helpful comparison as they can offer more options

[@mitchbledsoe5562]

Thanks guys

[@kerty1977]

Some of these products have been around for a couple years. Many of the new products are polymer or some heavy duty aluminum. It's pretty amazing how some of them look like real wood.

[@brianhaygood183]

The Certainteed and Boral products are interesting . Thanks.

[@ELIRAXPRT]

Love these panelized stone panels. Seems great for cold weather. Saw a house in my sub getting stone veneer today in the snow with lows of about five degrees. They built a tent around it and heated it but I question the strength of the mortar curing in these temps and if they left the heat on tonight.

[@ELIRAXPRT]

BenjaminFranklin99 that's why I like the panel for cold temps, the install in my hood was with mortar - a traditional install

[@NEWHOMESALES]

Great video Matt!

[@alefer0130]

Love your videos. Keep it up.

[@TreBischof]

Great job, as usual

[@cindianderson9443]

I wish you'd discuss some of the more modern sidings, like concrete panels, porcelain panels, metal panels, etc.

[@UrbanToRural]

Interesting products. Obviously moisture is a big issue for siding, but I am disappointed you didn't ask these manufacturers about flammability. When we build our house, non-flammable siding will be one of our major criteria.

[@4philipp]

UrbanToRural it’s cement based

[@The_Opinion_of_Matt]

I've seen similar looking style Stone facade on Morton Homes. Can you do a video detailing the differences in these facades and veneers? Also, how do you feel overall about Morton Homes and their buildings?

[@sarahwoodson5933]

I have T1-11 0n my house . It's in bad shape. I DO NOT want anymore T1-11 on my house. I live in Jacksonville Fl. I'm watching your video . Thank you!!! I can't wait to show my hubby.....

So far, the paint on my Hardiplank siding has held up for 17 years. The paint is water based, too.

[@cowsal77]

Does it rain much where you live?

[@95GuitarMan13]

I'm glad you give thermory the extra credit for authenticity and it's nice to see manufacturers recognizing that often overlooked value, the stone products in this video just don't get it.

[@gregoryvschmidt]

The verticle siding that you called dadoed, is actually reverse board and batten

[@lukula2934]

That was helpful...Thanks guys!

[@alpersayar9532]

Hi Matt. Ever since I saw Versetta stone in your video when it came out, I have been wanting to install it on my house, but the cost is pretty high. I have not seen a good alternative to this product, either. Is there anything that can install like this such as where we won't have to worry about leaving a gap behind the siding?

[@noncorporeal1]

Boral true exterior is a great product have used on 2 projects and will not use any other siding if i can help it.

[@nickif2011]

How serious is it to caulk the exterior cladding and use a system like Prosoco or Poly-wall? Is it about the cladding, the barrier wall or both?

[@JQUICK21]

With the Boral True Exterior product I guess you need to paint it? Or does it come in colors? Because that Blue color shown here is incredible and I WANT THAT!

[@juligrlee556]

How would you use any of these products on an ICF (Integrated concrete wall form) for a finished fireproof siding look?

[@skillsrobles]

that first siding was nice i like the square look

[@charlesfield9286]

LOVE the video. Great info especially the hardiplank stuff, but ... that Boral True Exterior stuff seems like a ready made train wreck. You run the rain down interior channel which works fine as long it drains freely but as soon as anything blocks the exit there will be pressure against the tyvec. Also, it doesn't seem like it would breath. There's a reason siding drains from the interior to the exterior in short laps.

[@utubewatcher360]

Matt - either you haven't been to a home show for the past several years or you totally missed this in the past. They meaning Boral & CertainTeed have been promoting this crap at least since 2012 it was already featured at previous builder shows in 2012 and 2013. Your suppose to be providing us with new and innovative design and installation practices. As a masonry contractor - these manufactures are changing their tune when it comes to installation practice. Thanks to you, bringing awareness to the problems with cladding and exterior moisture problems behind the typical paper, lath and scratch coat substrate, it appears that a lot of installed systems are failing because of the ICBO practices brought into play and required by manufacturers. The rain curtain concept should be mandatory for good ole James Hardie siding as well. Each peace of 8" cedar mill lap siding that gets nailed onto a wall with either tyvek or felt paper creates a water dam every 8". Have you removed any lap siding lately?? the moisture caught behind the material is growing problem. The entire installation process needs to follow your building science concept with vertical battens / nailers installed at least every 12" allowing for that moisture plane you have talked about. Appreciate your info as always. But appears you are not covering the entire shows in the past by bringing outdated technology already in place.

[@slimthugga111]

Do you think this guy actually does any work? He manages subs. Doesn't lift a finger unless it's to type or sign something lol

[@TommyAlanRaines]

Really Coool Bro! 😜

[@noconz0727]

On the STONEFACADE: I wish they would have staggered the stones so you don't get obvious butt joints every 2ft. It may not be possible but it would have looked a heck of a lot better if they could pull it off.

[@gregthorne4292]

That's the veneer way.

[@awhodothey]

These look more fake than some of the other manufacturers, but ultimately these always look cheap and are not very durable.

[@Shanidar1]

Noconz0727 MC There are products here in Australia that have L-shaped veneer corners in manufactured stone....they surely are available in the US.

[@michaelgannon6866]

Noconz0727 MC

[@xallthatremains8339]

Noconz0727 MC It should be possible. They could stagger the joints like mesh backed mosaic tile squares do

[@gracilism]

I like the Icon and Boral product. I wonder if it can handle Phoenix summers.

[@mo1dwyer]

gracilism Boral has been here in Australia forever so don't worry - they know all about hot climate requirements.

[@benjaminblack5888]

Keep up the good fight for better building technologies. 👍🏼

[@jamnscott05]

Thermory has a quick installation clip system also. Do you know anything about a wind rating associated with that snap in clip installation system? Would this install be able to be used in high wind event areas like La, or Fl which get Hurricane force winds over 100mph?

[@nancybennett7811]

what would be better to cover cement asbestos siding? I painted it about 4 yrs ago but it is peeling on the south side of the house

[@jameshorrocks2939]

Anyone who has ever dealt with termites or other pests is curious. What keeps bugs out from the certainteed stone or the competitor with a similar product?

[@richardbutch1617]

The different types of Stone veneers look nice, but by placing Stone veneers along the foundation, doesn't this promote the possibility of termites finding their way into your home ? I have always heard that a space of 4 to 8 inches from ground to the bottom of the siding is best to avoid the problem and also let you to be able to see any termite tunnels should they start. I live in Florida so termites are a problem. Is their a way to avoid termites and still use these products other than chemicals ? Thanks.

[@williamduchene1322]

Ever use or look at Novabrik..? Has a 3/4" air gap... mortar less...

[@toddoliver3385]

Is the new siding fireproof?

[@technicalitems731]

Looking for a siding that is lowest maintenance, lasts the longest, doesn’t cause rot or other issues. House to be built will be a mountain top home. Not looking for vinyl siding. Prefer a classic long lasting style and nothing that will end up being dated or trendy. Any suggestions?

[@levidale5440]

I use the versetta stone a lot on interior walls and fire places but I have to use closed cell foam to keep them from rattling as not all joints are the same. What are ppl doing about lose panels on the exterior

[@michellemybelle9591]

First time home buyer here. Wondering besides ALL brick, which are rare theses days. What would you accept if it was your house as a siding? I'm overwhelmed and confused about veneer, veneer brick hardy plank, moisture, breathable.... 😫😫😫😭😭😭PLEASE help!

[@ArneJohanssonMpls]

Like that stonefacade!

[@tcruiser1649]

Johnny Knoxville works for Boral?

[@memyselfandlewii8781]

A building scientist! Wow that's a new one😁 I want to be a building scientist when I grow up 😆

[@jaimetorres1672]

Where can i find the Hardie artisan with v-notch? What is the actual name of this type of prodeuct? The one you talk about between 3:00 -3:10

[@Drmcunningham]

Perhaps I have a stupid question and I admit lack of experience with “rain screening” but is there any way insects could use this space for a very protected nest?

[@MIKEKELLEY12000]

Mike, I'm from Montana and had never heard of rain screen until I started watching Matt's videos. I remember seeing one of his where he discussed keeping bugs out. I believe he blocks the bottom with screen. This guy has a trim piece that does the job: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH3SgpKqhpyajqs

[@dfgyuhdd]

The most economical way to deal with this is to run a ribbon of screen (yes, regular fiberglass screen) that laps a few inches below your siding benchmark prior to furring strip install. After furring strip install (always vertical) you fold those few inches up and tack them over the furring strip with a stapler. Then run your starter strip for siding and proceed as usual.

[@bosatsu76]

Insects need homes too... If they're not chewing up the house, what's wrong with a little sharing... Maybe not wasp nests everywhere... But spiders, mason bees, and others are actually our friends.'

[@dfgyuhdd]

The problem with accepting some insects in but not others is that you need to establish a comprehensive bug immigration policy and the particulars of that policy will inevitably hurt the feelings of some bugs who believe themselves to be qualified to nest within the walls of home. Just prepare to fight some extremely lengthy and costly legal battles if you choose to go that route, that's all.

[@RebelStateSovereign]

ryan lol 😂

[@scottsaunders1790]

Hope CT has gotten ride of the asbestos. “Got” my dad. Mesothelioma

[@timothylarson1472]

What about allura fiber cement?

[@richarddavis5542]

Confused why the Certainteed ICON links to a vinyl product. I thought it was composite.

[@dentist2112]

You said your consult fees were listed on your blog. Well....I cannot find them. Can you link the address here.

[@buildshow]

I don’t think my fees are listed. Email me and I’ll send it

[@boogerking7411]

3:00 what do you call those planks?

[@brucestewart3170]

Anybody know the fire rating of the Icon composite siding?

[@hindesite]

Wow that James Hardies stuff scares me. Never heard HardiPlank described as durable, by anyone, ever.

[@HappyHopping11]

if your house has vinyl siding, and you upgrade to stone siding, how can the wall sustain the weight of all that stone, especially if your house is 2 level

[@Badboyteddybear]

Thermory is doing what they did 100 years ago and still do in Alaska you burn the grain and heat the wood to stop insects and rotting. I have used this on many homes. Great product for the wood lovers that cannot stand hardi plank

[@lukula2934]

Wish they would talk price on this stuff. Was that Thermory crazy expensive?

[@TCOrlandoHomes]

If you are still in town we can hang out.

[@websurfer44]

I always have a concern about animals and bugs nesting behind these "stand off" siding products. I would think wasps, bees or even bats might find the cavity behind the siding very inviting.

[@spectrumqq2]

Jer in Wis this will resolve with bug screen at the started pieces

[@davidsquarepants1256]

Factually hardie plank is the best siding if you want your house to last. The seems can tightly hit together under we put black seem flashings so if water gets in it streams out, hard I doesnt crack unless you purposely stress it like but caulking in the seem or finish nail with siding nails. What about we get some people with actual experience in this building

[@wondreal]

What color is that blue house on this video nice color

[@scruffy6151]

Nice looking product coming out

[@KevinsHeaven]

Very nice

[@dougdunlap5889]

cool stuff

[@dangerboy808]

Not a fan of the butt joints on the rock veneer, other than that they have some cool sidings

[@KevinHarper3DArtist]

Anyone else feel the chemistry between these 2? 8:15

[@bdyt]

I swear I've seen this vid before. Did they just stick 2018 on it?

[@shednut2666]

No longboard siding

[@aayotechnology]

So what's the certainteed product made of?!

[@johnlockhart519]

Cement based product. Quality Stone Veneer was one of the first to introduce the clip system. I heard they are prone to settlement cracks.

[@bobcronin1917]

Stiebel electron water heater

[@stephenpyle6102]

I would like to see some of these products carry a color throughout the material. Vinyl siding is about the only paint free option.

[@windoarsails1141]

www.everlastsiding.com/

[@denjhill]

Some good information, but why do I feel like I just left a car dealership? A little too heavy on the selling approach. Nothing is perfect, even if you chose to ignore telling us about the downsides to these new wonder products. Once again, I conclude that I need to do some independent research or run the risk of being burned by these *cool* products.

[@ellea3344]

That's all he does is pitch products.

[@b0b0-]

Exactly what I thought... Bunch of car salesmen. Can't get past it even if products are great.

[@Spruce-Bug]

You guys realize this is at a trade show right? Thats the whole point of it.

[@calical26]

composite easy i love to install it but cost way to much lol

[@MAXAREUOS]

Why not just use bricks and cement for siding?

[@marco1173]

Cost.

[@MAXAREUOS]

I can't see how it can be cheaper with that integrated stainless steal channel and drilling obligation..

[@cjschmitt4882]

lmao...if that's the outdated look you want to stick with then go for it (laughing stock of the neighborhood)

[@townsendliving9750]

As he mentioned, there is a much lower drying potential for stone and mortar siding

[@tiffanyohara6364]

fishscale polyurethane. Where do i find it??

[@Shako_Lamb]

My concern about the Stonefacade is the apparent need for trim at all corners. Trim cutting through stone, as on that display, looks ridiculous regardless of how modern or traditional the build is. I would like to see more aesthetic improvements for windows in the near future, especially more depth in the sashes and a deeper installation into the wall, and more possibilities for simulated divided lights (as opposed to grill-in-glass, which I HATE WITH A PASSION). New windows today tend to look way too flat on the house, which really irks me. It's depth and shadows that give character to a work of architecture.

[@ralphvalkenhoff2887]

My thoughts exactly.

[@randyscrafts8575]

Yup.

[@Rushmore222]

I don't know how much those stone siding sections weigh, but four small screws affixing them to the house wouldn't exactly make me carefree.

[@dougb70]

I did the Verseta Stone, but it didn't help me learn Spanish.

[@memyselfandlewii8781]

LOL GOOD ONE!😆

[@jamesbarr7186]

All this new siding and stuff is nice for water control, but what about fire? Kind of funny but I have an aversion to fire

[@ellea3344]

Build your home out of shipping containers. Fewer hidden costs, less maintenance, and more energy efficient, because if force you to be more judicious with glazing, so cold temp homes have a better CONTINUOUS R-value.

[@timm439]

For the first stone veneer solution: "You really can't tell this is a panelized system"... umm, really? One glance and you can easily see there's a bunch of rectangle panels. Not an option IMO.

[@johnzuck6163]

Tim M How do you keep the snakes out?

[@jaandel1]

Where was this event located? how can I get the entrance ticket? Very interesting products there

[@augustreil]

Orlando, Fla, didn't you watch the video ? Ticket at the door maybe ? Really bro ?

[@abm2958]

The show used to alternate between Orlando and Las Vegas, I attended the one in Orlando a few years ago and it was amazing.

[@abm2958]

www.buildersshow.com/generic.aspx?sectionID=1629

[@slickbelge]

doesn't that just leave an opening for termites to invade?

[@remington351]

Thank you for the detailed video, but you seem to spend a lot of time talking about how the modern siding options deal with water behind the siding. I thought the main purpose of house siding was to keep water outside the siding, not behind it??? My house build in 1972 still has the original aluminum siding on top of homasote. No house wrap, no water behind it. Have aesthetics superceded function these days??

[@Dhleeiv]

Yes they have

[@MoSportsUSA]

I love your informative and professional videos but, just my nitpicking, please address the volume level issues that seem to haunt many of your presentations.

[@roman.licious]

Can we talk about Jordan?! ♥️😍🙋🏻‍♂️😂

[@JQUICK21]

Why?

[@treystills]

I love the concept of the attached rock panels however the aesthetic appears to be contrived and dated (at least on camera).

[@gregthorne4292]

I'm just a layman, but I agree. There's a cycle of "natural materials executed beautifully" that devolves to "synthetic materials that are easy to install and cost-efficient". This cycle kills a look because it becomes cheap-looking and ubiquitous.

[@DOTCurrency]

intro music too loud!

[@JoeLouisPepsi]

Looks like the ICON siding is discontinued...

[@sladeoriginal]

Hardie siding with rigid foam installed over top my my brick home with rain screen. Good or bad idea?

[@augustreil]

Question is, why would you ever cover the brick ? More heat retention ?

[@bluebird5100]

I think the rainscreen and hardi is a good idea. The rigid foam is kinda scary to me because it could keep the brick wet from any moisture it absorbs from the ground.

[@Giggidygiggidy12]

Thermory and Hardie had the coolest products imo. And building scientist???? Someone bring him back to reality please

[@sherifnabil9663]

Please explain

[@michaelhorsford403]

Eliminating the need for dedicated trade is what pisses me off

[@damham5689]

Thats what the people who use to clean up after horses said when the horseless carriages started becoming popular too. It sucks but things change.

[@erikcable1755]

the real deal is still better...laid over a scratch coat...this other fake stuff is for the diy home builder...not for your home