🚨 First Look of NEW Alliance Tiny Fifth Wheel!

[@celestepalm6949]

All right!!! _Finally_ a short 5th wheel with a decent-sized closet. _Love_ the floorplan. Thank you, Alliance! So glad they stuck with the switches, too. Buttons are just better & safer. A rear dinette/desk office version of this length with an east/west bed (slide or no slide) with full rear closet would be _fantastic!_

[@DIYwithWayne]

I love the heavy duty ladder BUT as an older RV'er I NEED it to curve onto the roof so I have something to grip onto for safety! Please make this change.

[@joygarrett8397]

Yes definitely!!

[@ryanstage3912]

LoL you would have to be completely nuts to pull that monster with a 1/2 ton regardless of the truck you own. Good job Alliance on being honest

[@jlantz3691]

100%. They always mention the trailer weight, but that's only half the equation. How much weight does the hitch add to the load on the truck?

[@cindycookswithtupperware5482]

Love it! The only thing I would add is drawers under the dinette seats. You can never have too much storage.

[@joygarrett8397]

Definitely!

[@gregorysmith3097]

Fantastic looking fifth wheel. The size is perfect for the wife and I. The kitchen looks great with the frosted glass. Prepped for the washer/dryer is awesome. Suggestion is to make an option of getting rid of the dinette and extending the countertop the whole way and put in cabinets and bar stools. One thing that needs asked is why is this not the 27RK? It's 27 foot long. Maybe if Alliance starts making the model number match the length, other companies will start doing the same.

[@nanachick05]

Agree about the numbers, don’t know why they don’t do that. I however prefer the dinette, need the sleeping space for the grands

[@RobertMurray-b1e]

The eating bar / more counter space was a suggestion I was making as well!! As an option!

[@celestepalm6949]

Make theater seats an option. Real campers want to see & enjoy the nature they're camping in, not watch TV all day.

[@tammybesneatte5954]

Also love Ab’s idea of more wrap around windows in kitchen

[@rondadelleva4805]

I can’t stand the see through cabinets it just looks messy.

[@timquicksell2726]

Totally agree, why would they make glass doors. Especially when things bounce around and potential breaking the glass. Bad idea, please delete and use real wood

[@arthurbailey9205]

Agree, but they could use colored rain or wiggle glass

[@debbieolson6737]

I agree why do I want everyone to see my mess. I’d put frosted or decorative window film.

[@deborahbroadhurst6885]

A refrigerator on a slide out is never a good thing ! And that slide out drawer behind the table n booth is way to tight. The corner side of it knicked the vinyl on the back of the booth ! He seen it n pulled it to the right side to shut it ! Sorry guys !

[@va-native]

#teamfrosted

[@ClosetRVr]

Great layout, especially access to everything in road mode. How about making your wonderful floating dinette a option, two chairs, four chairs, configure the table for extra space or bring it out for four people. Well done Alliance.

[@terrireed9928]

Love this floor plan. With all of the full time RV's out there how about an option of a countertop where the dinette is for a versatile desk/eating area, enough space on the end for that shoe storage and another drawer or two, plus eliminating the dinette will open up the floor space.

[@Tanya-yv4ik]

Love the floor plan. A few things I would change - see through cabinets - put a drop down swing arm on the tv like the cougar 260ml -dining desk facing the window - seat in the shower like the cougars, rockwoods The space beside the fridge you could put cubbies like you did for the 294rk delta TT

[@nanachick05]

Love the idea of a drop down seat for the shower

[@scotwolf9280]

Stop mounting TV's 6' off the floor

[@luminousveiws]

We will keep an eye on this one. Suggestions: stove is too close to the wall, TV needs a drop down rack, hate blonded wood (looks cheap)

[@nanachick05]

As a member of your alliance Facebook group I know you like to hear feedback so here goes, Pros: LOVE the length, love the outdoor kitchen, that’s perfect. Love the on demand water heater! Can never say enough about outside access to slides and awnings…FINALLY!!! Great layout. Love the control center 100%! Love the drawers in bedroom, much better design. Cons: no cover over the outdoor kitchen, toilet needs to be angled a tad towards the shower. No place for spices in the kitchen. Not many cons, I’m in love! ❤

[@alishabeez]

Thanks for mentioning the FB Group, about to head over there

[@gsolo328]

This is an awesome little rig. My only thought is I always want a couch to crash on without having to go into the bedroom. I think it would be great if they had a little longer recliner/theater seat combo. Maybe a 3 cushion with the two ends being recliners. Just my thought and one of the main reasons I bought mine with a couch and recliners.

[@derektree7093]

Outside kitchen is not under the awning. Stove top is too close to wall on right side, move it to where sink is and put sink on Camo side of unit

[@joygarrett8397]

Yes & yes!!

[@LauraMcBride-p1x]

The dinette is a MUST for us!! Thanks for including it.

[@berniescott7660]

Love it. Just a couple of suggestions to make it perfect for us. #1 Slide the stove further down the counter so you’re not hugging the slide while cooking #2 Get rid of the knee knockers for the dining table.

[@sandrawithoutborders5631]

The cabinets make it look so cheap, but the layout is a great use of space for that size RV.

[@0708scott]

I love it. Alliance knocked it out of the park. The only thing I'd change is making the kitchen counter top all one level. It's probably more expensive to do so, but to me, it's worth it.

[@usa91787]

I would like to see an option for a couch that folds out for a bed and a king size bed option. I'm fine with a little 19" and 14" space on the sides. I'd also like to see Maxx Air fans standard. Like the water shut off valves. I agree, no see through cabinet doors.

[@turnbullstravels735]

Likes: 1) Love the length 2) appreciate the ladder 3) great kitchen counter space! 4) We prefer buttons…hate having to page thru menus just to turn on a light. 5) love the single large sink and pantry. 6) like the individual water shutoffs 7) love the nightables. Dislikes: 1) would bring my own grill setup so I would prefer the storage vs outdoor kitchen 2) hate the booth, so table & chairs would be so much cleaner looking. 3) don’t care about indoor speakers…we would bring our own. 4) clear cabinets…agree with another poster that they will look messy, but I would just cover the glass so no big deal. 5) wish the white cabinetry of the bathroom carried thru the rest of the unit. Questions: dual pane windows? Is that fridge 12v, I think it is, I saw Furrion in the video. Tank sizes?

[@billiesetser1396]

Wow!!! under 30 feet and around 7000 pounds with washer/dryer prep, and 2 AC's. Where do I sign.

[@Buck1954]

I'm happy to see the 5th wheels build small...again. When I was a kid, our neighbor bought a small 5th wheel that he was able to pull with his half ton. That was around 1966. We moved from that neighborhood in 1967.

[@rvnut1133]

Ok, this one has almost convinced me to go back to a fifth wheel, it is perfect for me as a solo traveler. Here are the few things I would suggest that would make it perfect for me: 1) It wasn't shown in the video but I hope it has full storage under the dinette seats. 2) I do not like the see through cabinet doors, I know it looks nice and all but not my preference. If there isn't another option I would probably have to cover them all which it would be a pain. 3) The option to delete the outside fridge/grill and use it for storage. 4) I would love to see it with automatic leveling jacks. 5) I Would love to see a slide-out topper. I love the idea of the shoe rack and the panoramic windows and like Matt said, perhaps placing the toilet on a little bit of an angle although, I do fit there just fine.

[@timquicksell2726]

Please get rid of the dinette and put a fireplace with a Telelevator , which would make it the perfect couples rig. At least make it an option. I mean so many people don't like dinettes, don't know why manufacturers are still putting them in RVs . Hope Alliance is listening 🙂

[@celestepalm6949]

I _love_ dinettes for their extra storage and work deskspace as many folks do. Hopefully Alliance will offer what you want as options.

[@windrider65]

I prefer a freestanding table and chairs myself.

[@jstar1000]

Totally agree, they are uncomfortable and take up too much real estate.

[@nanachick05]

I prefer the dinette, it’s a place for my grands to sleep

[@bwtawny]

No dinette. Want room for a desk/workstation.

[@gingerreid8569]

Love this! Prefer smoked glass on cabinets but very nice.

[@gingerreid8569]

Excellent!

[@Tsch6373]

Or frosted

[@tammybarkalow2200]

Love it, love it, love it. The frosted glass is waaaayyyyy to light. Go smoke or solid. We’re dying to know, what is that stainless drawer under the oven? Just a drawer? Everything else, a home run.

[@AlastairFisher-yn3zh]

Any way to take the sharp corners off the cabinets above the side tables by the bed? I’ve seen some manufacturers do that, but not many. Love this rig!

[@stevemurray2737]

Winner! Well done Alliance! Game Changer.

[@kimbarker5166]

I would love to have the option for no dinette space just put holders for trays on the theater seats. For that small of a 5th wheel I would prefer to have a fireplace and maybe some storage in that space. My husband and I rarely eat at the table anyhow now that our children are gone.

[@garymurrell1579]

Beautiful unit. To get all those features in a fifth wheel that size too. When I retire Avenue is the one for me

[@surpriseitsus9622]

I would wrap a counter around to the door, add storage under 75% and leave room for a desk space. I love the switches. I dont need any more windows.

[@user-ij4uc5ds1v]

This is an awesome floor plan! Absolutely love it! I do have two suggestions though. One if you could put a pull out counter top extension on the hutch so it could hold a keyboard then that area could be used for a small desk and that would be fabulous! Two, I love the built in grill griddle and if you make the slam latch door open sideways (from left to right) then, when open, it wouldn't cover the window. You mentioned you would be extending the window in the kitchen, yeah! I am all for that. Again this is a great floor plan! Stairs are on passenger side so full road access.

[@jaybird4095]

Very nice. I would recommend two changes. Pantry door needs to hinge otherwise. way. If the slide is closed, the door could be partially opened to load or grab something, at a grocery store or at a lunch break. I like booth dinning, but set the table top be able to slide from side to side a few inches to make it get in and out. Absolutely love the hidden side table cubby. This 5ver made it to the #1 spot for us. Can't wait to see it in person.

[@alliancerv]

Thanks for touring this ALL-NEW Avenue floorplan! You did a great job, but if anyone has any questions, please don't hesitate to contact us.

[@LifeIsAJourney4Us]

when will it become available?

[@susanamberg3960]

I know most RV's have the microwave above the range with the fan included, not outside vented which suck by the way. . But as the cook of the group, and especially since this rig is roadside accessible, may I suggest you put a microwave/convection on the passenger side above the kitchen counter, then a bigger cabinet above the stove with a true outside vented hood. And not just in this RV but others too.

[@bobr7867]

If you watch the outside walk around, when Ab gets to the back you can see a vent to the left/drivers side of the rear window, which is right where the microwave hangs in the kitchen. So the microwave does vent to the outside.

[@jackieweil4344]

This is a great camper. There is one item that would make it better. And I'm not sure why more manufacturers aren't utilizing it. The SeeLevel RV Tank Monitor. They always work and give a very accurate readout. They are on the outside of the holding tanks so they never get covered in gunk. They just work better.

[@wendylucka2397]

I love; the way the bedroom looks with its cabinets. The kitchen has that same vibe! And the storage with an outdoor kitchen? There's nothing I don't like! And half-ton towable? Heck yeah!!!❤❤❤

[@chadkoller7809]

Matt can you please tell Alliance to put vertical lights on the back of there trailers. If you put a bike rack on the back of this trailer people can’t see the lights when you brake or put turn signals on. Thanka

[@Coolguyjason]

I Love the table being on the camp side and not in a slide! Amazing job on alliance to stick washer dryer prep or drawers in the owner's closet! Don't worry not going to quote the msrp from this!

[@draggonsgate]

Prepped for a w/d? YAAAAAS! Nice sized range, check! No touch pad screens, check! Full love seat and a free standing dinette, please! Fireplace option in the hutch area? Awesome rig!

[@ronaldstephens5695]

Love this floorplan. The only change I would make is the shower stall door needs to go higher to the ceiling so you don’t have to bend your neck to get in and out. A great solar package would be fantastic. What are the tank sizes?

[@oneboltzfan]

Love this one. Much improved over the 22 ML. For my situation (couple's camper), I would lose the dinette, extend the countertop, put in a fireplace, and a televator TV. If possible, maybe a slide out desk drawer between TV and fireplace with two folding chairs. Love the idea of extending the kitchen window too. This one may move to the top of my list.

[@narrowstripsawing9595]

Love this rv, hopefully the recliners will be an option so there can be a sleeper sofa for extra sleeping. We love the counter space and the table and chairs. Hopefully they have will have options for this rv to meet more people. The length, counter space and and outdoor mini kitchen is awesome.

[@bobdietrich4253]

Great look and layout! With the large indoor frig, you could lose the outdoor one and an outdoor plumbed sink with hot and cold water would be great. Love the added window views on the camp side, washer/dryer prep, extra water shutoffs, and solid surface counters in kitchen AND bathroom! Will a sleeper sofa option be available? It would help since the dinette is so small. Is there auto-leveling? An option for hanging space in the pantry would be nice for coats and such since there is so much storage elsewhere.

[@chrislenard8998]

Please give an option for a King bed. Yes, it would go from wall to wall but for many of us a good night's sleep is more important than a walk around bed and a King is crucial for a good night's sleep. I would buy this unit the day it came out if I could have a larger bed.

[@ReginaNoyes]

I like the dining on the camp side. What if you turn it 90 degrees with a freestanding table over a bench/storage bench and 2 chairs. You lose the extra sleeping area but gain countertop / desk space

[@jimgeorger4452]

Full timing we swapped the theater seating for two small recliners. Made a world of difference. Consider this as an option.

[@stevez340]

Thank you for offering a table and chairs “option” for the long in the tooth diner booth dinette💥If the bed is a “true queen” then this is a perfect couple’s floorplan👍👍👍

[@waynelion-cachet35]

That extra extension of the grill is great for access to the camp fridge while grilling. That is good thinking.

[@cramer425]

Kitchen is great. Needs a counter and chairs or stools instead of dinette, not table and chairs. The dinette is nice considering. The water shut off valves are so smart!. Needs some color on the bottom cabinets--blue. Overall a great fifth wheel for the size.

[@jeanlewis3823]

Great RV, I loved it. Love the idea of deleting dinette bringing the kitchen bar around like the 294 RK towable.

[@f1yankee]

Definitely free standing table so I can completely remove it to have a dedicated place for dog crates etc without being in my walking path. Love this layout and size and access to everything in road/tow mode. Excellent job Alliance. I may finally consider trading you to a 5th wheel over my travel trailer. When will they be available?

[@RaymondBragg-cr8wn]

The kitchen countertops should all be the same height. Get rid of the stepped counter. This allows to use both counter top spaces for work/prep area and appliances.

[@Snowman119]

Great 5th wheel floor plan with a lot of good features and functions. Possible changes, extend the counter so to have bar stools with a fireplace underneath. Don’t like the see through glass cabinets and option for sofa/sleeper.

[@pth733]

Would like to gain access to the refrigerator when the slide is closed. This helps when packing for a trip or stopping for lunch while on a trip, you don't have to open the slide.

[@randypetty3066]

We purchased the ArticWolf 23mle last year. Similar features as this one. We really enjoy that plan. We were previous Alliance toy hauler owners and were very happy with the product. We simply needed something smaller. The running gear is important. I actually upgraded the 23mle to incorporate many of the features that were spoken in the video.

[@jonathanharrison2348]

Great rig! Nice job Ab! 1 thought /suggestion... if you want to offer a 1st in class option for this smaller line, offer full body paint. To my knowledge, nobody is offering full body paint on these smaller 5er's ! Some might argue this would push the price point beyond this class. I would argue why not be the first to do it? Continue to be the trend setter that Alliance has become! Paint one and take it to Hershey... see what feedback you get! ...just sayin' ! 😁

[@timquicksell2726]

Definitely Full Body paint, I'll buy one for sure

[@lindac.9810]

This is the rig for us! Great floorplan. We like the dinette (for the grandkids), especially once you put in the shoe cubby. But please consider a different table mechanism, not the knee-knocker that is in the prototype. So many things to love: the simple control panel, the propane oven (rare these days), those awesome drawers in the wardrobe! Hope you’ll be at Hershey with this.

[@williamsheen837]

What’s the hitch weight?

[@hillcountrylivin]

Why the different level kitchen counter top?

[@josemaciel6662]

It would be awesome if the air conditioners were 12 volt and the fridge 12 volt because if you can boon-dock with out shore power would be amazing. Also a solar package with high rated battery banks. Being independent is the way to go.

[@timquicksell2726]

How about the Furrion cube 18amp start up and 6 to 8amp running. Great for a rig this size

[@davesheppard8446]

Love the looks of the unit, Suggestions, Prefer table and chairs, like the idea of longer kitchen window, Yes turn the toilet a bit for better "prime poopin position, Add reading lights tot he over head above the bed on each side, make the other lights over the bed dimmable. this is high on our need to see list and can't wait for it to see the final item

[@ericalampley480]

As a half ton owner I think I'm in love! The literal only thing I didn't care for was that shallow storage on the side of the fridge. If it could be slightly deeper with maybe netting?

[@williamjktkd]

This is the perfect 5th wheel if you're a couple with pets

[@suetwiford8392]

This is a great floor plan. I agree with angling the toilet. I would like to know if there will be kitchen cabinet doors that will have no peek glass, as well as the see through?

[@lallen4245]

Love it. I would make the shoe cabinet under the dinette. Also with the kitchen in the rear it will be bouncier (first hand knowledge) therefore most of the cabinets should be wood.

[@gregreinert642]

Regarding the dinnette vs table, we'd go with the table for one of the great things about camping u mentioned, big dog! Only need 2 chairs and a folding table so the dog bed would fit there.

[@martinconzemius5351]

That is a great 5th wheel! My only nit pick is why can’t you use slam latches on all the doors? They can’t add much to the cost and they are so much more robust than the twisty latches.

[@williamhaines8382]

My pet peeves 1. cable pulls below water supply 2. Varmit openings under trailer. 3. Small toilets 4. Fake leather furniture. Does this trailer have hyd. slides and levelers? Big Plus!

[@karend169]

The kitchen drawer seems odd. It is shaped strangely, as though it is not utilizing all the space of the drawer. Also, it looks like the drawer is hitting the back of the dinette. I do love that the TV is right in front of the chairs. That is a huge plus.

[@sherriweber7105]

I love it! This is a nice Alliance fifth wheel. Nice and small. It’s great. Matt this is so cool seeing the prototypes. Nice to see you see them before the real ones come out. Glad you are doing this. Great job Alliance.

[@Vocalist1969]

Great first look. Love the drawers in the bedroom. Adding a jackknife would also be a nice option for even more sleeping area.

[@debbieb6254]

Move the stove and microwave so the stove can be accessed when the slides are in. Also would prefer solid cabinet doors for a cleaner look.

[@melodytwigg4750]

You didn't touch on the jacks, I am assuming or at least hoping they are a 4-point electric auto leveling! I love the fact that you get a prep for combo w/d. Well done Alliance!

[@barbarabouchard4370]

That wall space you're looking to change next to the fridge could really use a rail system similar to what Ikea used to offer. A rail system that you can customize with hanging flower pots, or a bin for books or crosswords, a cup for pens and markers, clips to hang anything you want... from fabric artwork or just fabric napkins/ kitchen towel. Looking next to my chair at home, I have salt and pepper, pens, mail, my tablet, a couple of plants, a notebook, a coloring book, and markers. It would be nice if the rail system was flexible enough for everyone to have access to what they do in the chairs... not just cupholders and remote cubby. And if for no other reason, plants are a very popular hobby right now and a rail system with planters that you can move around would be perfect right there in the slide out near the window light. Also, rail systems clip the accessories onto the rail, so they will be able to sway, but still stay attached as the fifth wheel moves down the road. Just my two cents.

[@gregisabel907]

Fantastic 5th wheel. This is exactly what I am looking for, especially seeing that it is W/D combo,. that put it over the top for me and I want one.

[@15double0]

Love the big kitchen area, bathroom is spacious, old style buttons instead of touch screen is awesome and the open sides at the top of the bed. Don.t like the dinette would prefer it be where the kitchen is, small fridge, would prefer double door something larger. Can you add a pull out drawer in the pass through storage? What was carrying capacity and how can you add to rear receiver, weight?

[@carolgarner8081]

I would like to see the booth dinette taken out altogether and put in a bar with barstools. You could even make it regular chair height, so it could be used as a desk / eating table. You could have storage underneath it all across the wall, and it would take up so much less floor space

[@ayranmcintosh]

Switch the pantry door so it opens towards the coffee bar. This way, you're not having to squeeze between the open door and the sofa to get items in and out.

[@Shivoham-xyz9ll9]

Beautiful 5thWheel. I lije that it is small, yet big, with evrything required. Estimated price sounds great as well. Good Job!

[@tgal1956]

Shower is to small . Kitchen cabinets are to dark . I would love to see fireplace plus W/D hook up . Cougar MLE 260 . You guys need to make a model similar.

[@tgal1956]

Completely agree with this comment. My exact words. I love the cougar MLE 260 . I will by that over this

[@lisabishop7124]

Awesome floorplan , I'm looking to get a class C to travel in. But this could work also. 😊

[@TexasRoadrunners]

Love this floorplan as is. I would like to see how these units look with the slide in.

[@pattyolson3842]

That is really nice!! And at 7,000 lbs. I like the bedroom, TV size and placement. I think a 2 1/2 seater should be an open.

[@fretlessrick]

Is the stove blocked by the slide-out? Maybe move it to the open counterspace on the other side of the counter?

[@HeidiLamb-i1m]

Do you have to get a remodel to raise the toilet seat? Some of are aren't short.

[@TheKittenbears]

Yes! You can put in a washer/ dryer. That's awesome.

[@RaymondBragg-cr8wn]

Agree. The see through cabinets are a no buy deal breaker. No one wants to see the mess in your cabinets. They need to change the doors to solid.

[@jillolsen3514]

You guys nailed it!!! We absolutely LOVE this 5th wheel! We love the dinette and prefer lift up access as opposed to drawers... every inch of storage is usable. Yes, to the shoe storage under it. Heavier frost needed on the cabinets but prefer these over the dark shiny ones. DO NOT like the stationary middle console theater seats at all!!! Every time Matt & Will mention this change I yell "Yes, make that change!!!" or at least make it an option? Still not too crazy about the brown marbled backsplash. The bathroom is great! Love the solid surface counter top as opposed to the epoxy ones. I saw the awesome linen storage and thought "Well there goes the bedroom closet storage" but no, it's got a closet too!!!🙌🏻 Bedroom is great as long as it's a true queen? If not I'd say do what you gotta do to make that happen. Night stand and spacing is great. Upper side storage would be nice to have option to hang or have shelves. Hoping this has large tanks for boon docking!!! Great job!!!👍🏻

[@haroldlopez2530]

Isn't all access when the slide is in and you don't have access to the stove or the pantry.

[@LifeIsAJourney4Us]

all access means locations like state parks

[@AJ-HawksToxicFinger]

Love this content, thanks for letting us get a peak at this proto type and love seeing them wanting and soliciting feedback. The old school switches are a MUST!

[@KingskruisinRV]

Yes wrap the window around. Shoe storage, and love tge table option. A table that can be removed would be great. We have a blow up mattress we bring for the grandkids. Love this floor plan. The flip up recliner would be nice. This is a perfect unit for us. When is this unit coming to a dealer?

[@dacks14]

Before we bought our Paradigm, we had a 22rb Cougar that looked a lot like this, BUT they did fit a king-size bed in it. Liked everything else but I would order with table and chairs, not the booth.

[@bonniec1321]

Looks awesome!! Definitely would like to see free standing dinnette. Or none at all! More like a bar like table. Nice RV😊

[@anthonybrown7726]

I love the Outdoor Mini Refrigerator and Grill. I would prefer less of the Glass Cabinetry in the Kitchen. Would like to know if the Slide is “Cable” driven? Like the layout of the Fifth Wheel overall.😊

[@kellyrobinson7955]

Really great floor plan. Perfect couples camper. Love the dinette.

[@raistlink9]

Awesome 5th wheel. Great job again Alliance! I would prefer the kitchen cabinet glass not to be see-through. And it would be nice to have an electric fireplace in there. Really great floorplan overall!

[@cherylallen3526]

Need a closet slide out and make the shower bigger add an electric fireplace at the coffee bar. Love the color, layout and size. Also could do away with the dinette and extend the kitchen counter top and add stools for eating or looking out the window.

[@WhitneyCarpenter-t8n]

Love the size, storage and set up. Have a 35 foot TT and looking to downsize. Is there a TV in the bedroom?

[@Vocalist1969]

Also loved the pass thru storage and led lights