I can’t stand the Ned Rig. The other me grab the Ned Rig!!
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
haha
@justincrawford13252 жыл бұрын
I use a 1/5 ned head. I mainly only fish rivers. Is that too heavy even in current?
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
nope
@Jnf458 Жыл бұрын
Wow , great info.Trying to get better at fishing and ran across this video. I have been fishing in a river from a kayak, decent amount of snags. Curious what weight you would recommend. Thanks!
@MattStefanFishing Жыл бұрын
i prefer lighter than 1/10 oz or heavier than 1/4 oz
@andrewnevermann442710 ай бұрын
What about the Vmc Ned swing head?
@MattStefanFishing10 ай бұрын
Haven’t tried it
@oldeschoolbob10222 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Matt. Wholeheartedly agree on your ideal set-up being exposed hook and light weight. I would make the argument that if you go too heavy and / or weedless, you're not throwing a Ned Rig anymore. Ned Rig is open hook, light jig head..less than 1/8 oz., small simple plastic and light line. If people don't believe that I suggest they see the video Ned himself did on the rig that bears his name. This is a finesse technique; treat it as such. Here in Florida, I have a simple answer for not getting my Ned Rig hung up very often: I don't throw it into heavy cover. I simply choose another technique for the situation. Thanks again!
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing!
@williamgould2470 Жыл бұрын
Key words here.Bottom Composition!
@MattStefanFishing Жыл бұрын
yep!
@jimmcculloch58252 жыл бұрын
What about the hook with a wire weed guard?
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
it works but i seem to lose a lot of fish on light tackle with it
@fishingkid84672 жыл бұрын
I used to fish with the zman shroomz Ned head with the wire weed guards. I caught a bunch on them but I would guess I missed landing a bunch because of those weed guards
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
the weed guards can be a pain in the butt
@juleswinnfield8262 жыл бұрын
I like simple. Non tungsten, thin wire, exposed hook, basic ned head..... thats assumig I'm willing to stop fishing a tube....🤣
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
haha
@johnrayner55992 жыл бұрын
Great video and explanation, I prefer the Z man heads and I do get a very good land ratio on them plus they dont break the bank!
@oldeschoolbob10222 жыл бұрын
I use those a lot myself.
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
they are good hooks
@FishingWithDamon2 жыл бұрын
Nothing better then a new video from you🎉 I made 2 new videos lately because fishing season just started and I am so hyped for all the tournaments, kayak fishing, and more! I just bought my first fishing kayak as well and bought my first car as soon as I turned 16!!
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome
@jasonphillips18032 жыл бұрын
Randy Blauket lol
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching
@toddclarke31328 ай бұрын
Our local lakes have a tonne of milfoil. Can you fish ned rigs in milfoil? If yes, do you want the plastic above or near the top of the weeds or in the weeds? I've loaded up on ned rig gear, can't wait to user it. Love your content.
@MattStefanFishing8 ай бұрын
You can i prefer weedline edges
@erichthompson11942 жыл бұрын
As a mostly bank fisherman, the EWG neds are a saving grace. I like to use Ned baits that are a little longer or have more action like the TRD Ticklerz or the Xzone Ned Zone. I've found that my hookup ratio is really good on the Z-Man EWG Nedlockz and it has a short hook, only a size 1 I believe
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
stick with what works for you!
@JP-dj1ow2 жыл бұрын
My favorite Ned head weight is 1/32 oz. I like the Owner Blockheads. When you have that no feel presentation is when it's at its best in my opinion. It's takes a little getting used to but I've noticed over the years that you can really only imagine what the bait is doing but it doesn't matter. It's performing the way it was intended with the very light heads.
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
i personally like the lighter the better as well!
@JohnK-dv7pb2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a big ned rig guy but I use the 1/8 owner block head offset head and the trds. I seldom get hung up and need to retie. I'm not arguing but retying a leader a few times a morning would knock a big hole in the amount of fish I'm catching. I have not had an issue setting the hook. Now, there may be fish that would hook themselves if the hook was bare so there's there's that but I'm catching a lot of fish with little trouble, makes for a smooth morning. I find I can fish the 1/8th 30% farther than I can even throw a 1/16th. I'm not saying it's better than the lighter stuff and bare hook but it's much easier. I wouldn't rule it out.
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing!
@paulstuartwilson48510 ай бұрын
Exposed hook point every time. Way better hookup ratio and way less "spit out" ratio. Keep up the great work. 👍🇺🇸
@MattStefanFishing10 ай бұрын
Right on
@brianlee90742 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't use the EWG hook on any 3" bait for that exact reason. 4" minimum.
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing!
@stephanelavoie22582 жыл бұрын
Fishing from the bank i often get snagged with ned rig but will tolerate it more than any baits because it catch fish . I only use Zman products and allmost all of they’re heads . The Zman EWG is working really good with Elaztech and do not cut the action that much, especially with the TRD TICKLERS , TRD CRAWZ AND TRD BUGZ you still got lots of action ! I finally got my hands on the new max scent LIL GENERAL, will try it this summer to see the difference between Zman !
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
stick with what works for you!
@richardporter14552 жыл бұрын
Only Jig hook l can bring myself to fish right now is an EWG . I'm am well aware I'm missing bites at times. But brother, I'm fun fishing. And it's zero fun to me tying and retying all day. If money was on the line l would sing a different tune.
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
Stick with what works for you!
@johnlantz72782 жыл бұрын
Always agree ,open water open hook thin line .hair an char ned .first cast.bingo,nice smallmouth that’s great 😃
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
Right on
@soonerfan16752 жыл бұрын
Most of my water is a little too dirty for a Ned Rig but when I do use it, I use the Z-Man ones. Wild time on the Live Feed Wednesday night. Two day hangover after that party. 🥳😉😄 Seriously, it was a very interesting discussion on whacky rig fishing….something I need to use more often. 👍
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
Right on
@SpookyRedz2 жыл бұрын
I kinda wish they would come out with a better hook for the Ned , an like a worm hook top like an EWG but a shorter version and a lil thicker but so it could be rigged weedless still and not interfere with the action cause of the length I think it takes the action away a lil , but with a mushroom style head
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
that would be a winner
@dennisnieradka66688 ай бұрын
Would you put skirts& scent?I fish in St Johns river in Florida. Off shore.
@MattStefanFishing8 ай бұрын
Sometimes
@SerratedPVP3 ай бұрын
Using water-based scents on your plastics will result in more hits, especially if your fishing where a channel ends. After every cast you should be sure your plastic is clear of debris and is still hooked on an angle where it swims straight. Fish do not use their sight anywhere near as much as they use their lateral line or nose. A hook showing isn't going to scare an enticed fish away. Fish aren't scared of hooks or needles. We appreciate an easy meal and with good presentation, we aren't scared of the "silverware" and neither are the fish. Enough anthropomorphizing. (I have seen braided line "stun" a fish into not biting) Unless I missed something I was surprised that most of this video was advising you to hide the hook more. The "swim/glide/fall" is most affected by the angle of the plastic on the hook and not the drag of the hook in the water ("hook drag" in the water is hilarious to me, we're not using deep sea fishing hooks, this has to be negligible.) By the way, this video is coming from a guy who's hooked his chartreuse plastic upside down. 5:00
@Glock-1 Жыл бұрын
I just started taking really small clear tubing and put it up on the hook then put the bait on then now bend the tubing over split the tubing past the barb and thread it over the tip of the hook, when you get a bite the tubing pushes down and the hook point slips through where you split the tubing and it works great, they can't see it because it's clear and it's weedless because the hook point is covered until you get a bite and the hook point slips right through the split you put in the tubing
@MattStefanFishing Жыл бұрын
hook tubing is huge for me
@matthewwood1102 жыл бұрын
thanks, matt. amuses me how modern ned rig retrieves are nothing like Ned's retrieves. the action of the worm doesn't seem to be a concern at all with Ned K. thoughts?
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
it catches them both ways
@toddsegravesfishingandfitness2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always found that if I fish an ewg ned head around vegetation the head and knot seem to just catch on the vegetation instead of a hook catching. I have completely stopped using ewg neds
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing
@ronherd15302 жыл бұрын
I use a ewg hook with a tungsten 3/16 head with great success Switch to medium light rod to a medium rod and I don’t lose fish love your videos
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching!
@roberts.24132 жыл бұрын
Most of the time I will use the exposed hook mushroom head. I also like the Gambler Power Ned jighead, that I fish with casting gear and cut off part of a 5 " stickworm. I use that around heavier cover.
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
ill check it out
@SpookyRedz2 жыл бұрын
VMC or one of em need to come out with the mushroom head and a shorter EWG hook with rigging it weedless , I think it would work better
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
that would be a good one
@Grimey_Fishing2 жыл бұрын
I pick my Ned head based on cover, bottom composition, and current, so I use open hooks, EWG (including football head EWG), and mushroom heads with wire weed guards in a rotation dictated by what I might hang up on. One of my favourite ways to use open hook Ned heads is when I'm wading the river. I use light weight heads when the bottom is hard with patches of weeds or piles of bigger rocks for smallmouth bass to hide in. I let my bait tumble by suspected ambush points and wait for the fish to eat. I can only suspect that the tumbling bait looks like forage that's in trouble because it seems as though the smallies can't help themselves!
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing!
@MrJohnB-qs6dp2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt, for your opinion on the ned rig hooks!! Liked the way you showed how you lose some action on the EWG hook!!👍🏻 I use both open & EWG with the EWG in laydowns or grass but may have to turn it around. Like your thoughts on the open hook and makes sense. Stay Safe & God Bless!!!
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the support!
@clintperry7992 жыл бұрын
I know the Ned rig is a fish catching lure , but it feels like nothing but a small weight on the end of the line. Difficult for me to have confidence in , mabee I need to catch a large mouth with one. I need to fish it more I guess.
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
give it another try!
@learningtofish70362 жыл бұрын
Throw 4" on the EWG. Works great, and bend it open just a tich
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing
@peterhing36082 жыл бұрын
Great video Matt and I totally agree about having the exposed hook being an old school tube guy up here in the True North. Unfortunately our Kawartha lake systems have a ton of weeds from cabbage, grass, lilly pads etc that I do like the EWG Texas Rig but I will use a Craw Ned bait vs the traditional Ned worm. I did tank tests and found as you did the movement is very poor on a Ned worm's tail rigged on an EWG. But put it on a craw Ned or Zman Tickler and the movement of those plastics limbs and apendages offsets nicely. That is what I use around wood and weeds and then go exposed in open water and rocks and gravel. Great to see that a PRO like you confirmed my own research. Great info as always! Thank you.
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing!
@mikegardiner39342 жыл бұрын
Great review of those ned types, Matt. I will say I never use Ewg on a worm type 3” bait. However if I’m fishing a zman small bugZ or crawz, I prefer it. Mainly because the action in those type baits is in the tail or claws and no worries on getting hung 👍. However if using just 3” trd or similar, it’s a exposed jig head. 🙂 My fav bed bait is that bugZ. thanks!
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
good info thanks for sharing!
@ricks56062 жыл бұрын
"Fish with what you have confidence in", I hope everyone that watched this grabs on to that statement.
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
agreed!
@eem3iii2 жыл бұрын
In heavy cover or from the bank the Ned hooks with single wire or double wire weed guard work good. Use these sometimes instead of the heads with longer buried EWG hook.
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing!
@patrickmahoney3479 Жыл бұрын
Nice tips! For a weedless rig, I like to use the Charlie Brewer Spider head.
@MattStefanFishing Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@tonyvalentin9215 Жыл бұрын
Here where I live in Illinois there is a lot of rock and weeds , I've never had much luck with the traditional exposed hook ned. I found the ewg ned and I have a lot better luck on that . But that's the reason I run those. Good vid good sir.
@tonyvalentin9215 Жыл бұрын
Also I run biospawn plasma tail ,10,000 fish sukoshi bug or even craw style baits.
@MattStefanFishing Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jaeburbank86352 жыл бұрын
Have you checked out the ned baits on Rabid baits yet
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
Ill; check it out
@bluesinsation2 жыл бұрын
What about a simple “weedGuard” of some sort for the exposed hook? Maybe even just a piece of single 50/60# mono or fc glued on to the head or hook shank. Lots of wood snags on the bottom of my lake.
@jamesh74692 жыл бұрын
Those would be good but I don’t know of any manufacturers that make something like that
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
yep you can do that as well. Zman makes a weedless finesse shroomz head that works good, but i do believe with light tackle it does result in more lost fish than an exposed hook IMO
@mookie842 жыл бұрын
I try to not have an exposed hook most the time simply bc of the heavy rock and debris in the rivers here.
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
stick with what works for you
@LowBrowFishing2 жыл бұрын
I don't fish a ned rig that often since it's just too snaggy around here with all the vegetation. But if I do a ned-style bait, I'm using a 1/0 worm hook (not ewg) and I rig it texas style, 1/8 or smaller bullet weight and all. I find that it actually works really really well. I essentially get the best of both worlds. I'll even add a red glass bead between the weight and the hook for a little extra clacking noise that seems to help if the water is stained. I usually peg the weight, but sometimes I just let it slide. It all depends on how lazy I'm feeling, lol.
@oldeschoolbob10222 жыл бұрын
Even though I am in Florida, a lot of my fishing happens in ponds with little cover or vegetation, so the Ned becomes a viable option. What you're describing sounds like a downsized version of a Texas-rigged stick bait. How small do you go with your plastic? The BPS mini (3-inch I think?) stik-o came to my mind as I was reading this. I will use those or a finesse worm on a mushroom head in colder water or when the fish are finicky.
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
I can see that working
@LowBrowFishing2 жыл бұрын
@@oldeschoolbob1022 It is a down sized version of a Texas rig, yes. And it works very well for me. I'll use a standard ned bait, like a Googan Rattlin' ned and rig as I described. I did an entire video on the process.
@oscaraldaiz9628 Жыл бұрын
I fish primarily streams and rivers for smallies, I have found that jig heads with sickle hooks work well to stick and hold fish. I have also had some custom ned rig hooks made with tungsten and 3/0 hooks for the longer shank. This has helped with short strikes.
@MattStefanFishing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@SerratedPVP3 ай бұрын
These hooks are also better at not gut-hooking. Barbless circle hooks hold fish better than traditional unbarbed hooks. It's easy to gut-hook with senko/ned-rig so I like your approach.
@rvfishingyet Жыл бұрын
Great stuff Matt. How about a football head?
@MattStefanFishing Жыл бұрын
good topic!
@SpookyRedz2 жыл бұрын
The open style rig I don’t think the gap is big enough or the thin wire hook is thick enough also here the grass gets so thick the open hook does catch too many weeds
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing
@SpookyRedz2 жыл бұрын
@@MattStefanFishing your welcome and thank you
@bruceesterline3170 Жыл бұрын
I'm a big time Dirty jigs fan 👍
@MattStefanFishing Жыл бұрын
sounds good
@1965JB2 жыл бұрын
Another great video. What do you think of the weedless Ned heads with the two-wire guard? I don’t want to use an ewg, but I fish from the bank and it’s a real pain getting snagged, whether I get the rig back or not, so I tend to use the weedless. Do you think the wire guards are costing me bites?
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
they are OK but i feel like i dont get good hook penetration with them
@1965JB2 жыл бұрын
@@MattStefanFishing Thanks!
@davidtobelmann20022 жыл бұрын
I like the EWG with a 4 inch zman bait
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing!
@fishaholic1222 жыл бұрын
Do u think it would work just as well if u buy 6in. Generals and cut them down?
@kurtdikkers76592 жыл бұрын
Yes, I do that all the time. There is a 4” General that I also use and I don’t shorten that.
@oldeschoolbob10222 жыл бұрын
That was the original plastic that the pioneers of this technique used. Have a look at Ned Kehde's video explaining how the Midwest Finesse Rig (more famously known as the "Ned Rig") came into being. Edit: They did not use Generals of course..I can't remember what the actual brand was.
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
yep they work well too!
@erichildreth75622 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing these tips!!
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
You bet!
@outdoorswithjt66522 жыл бұрын
To this day I've never fished the Ned rig. Am I missing something?
@oldeschoolbob10222 жыл бұрын
I live in Florida - Powerfishing Central - and I throw a Ned a lot. Not used in grass, of course, but for ponds with very little vegetation / heavy cover, it's a great option - especially when conditions are tough. Use proper gear - medium or med/lt. spinning is best in my opinion - and stay light with your heads and line. Good luck!
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
it catches a lot of fish but is not one of my go to baits in florida
@oldeschoolbob10222 жыл бұрын
@@MattStefanFishing Finesse is not a thing down here for many..probably most..especially if they are fishing our big grassy lakes. My regular pond stops set up well for finesse, and light-line spinning is a major comfort zone for me, having grown up fishing light-tackle inshore saltwater, so i probably reach for it more than most. The good news is that our fish probably see a lot fewer Neds than in other states...which works out well for those of us who do throw it. Thanks!
@mikeeller5572 жыл бұрын
Great tip Matt Thanks
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@kerryschallon88792 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt.
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
You bet!
@jonesjs8898 Жыл бұрын
I'm binge watching your old Ned rig videos since the water is opening up in the Midwest! Such great advice. I usually struggle with the right weight to throw, but that will probably come with "reps". Hope your tourny is going well. Cheers, JJ
@MattStefanFishing Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@shawn_r_schultzfishing48832 жыл бұрын
When I fished the ned rig I used a lead head exposed hook and it worked out good, but I prefer a more power fishing approach so by no means is that regularly tested 😂
@MattStefanFishing2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@kevinbeaudean7042 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt. I am in camp EWG. I hate hanging up period. Breaking off and possibly having to retie jig head and maybe a leader or spoiling a good spot, camp EWG. I will say this I think non weedless Ned's, some times the fish hooks its self, there's a bonus.