Neat Things I Found in Sonic x Shadow Generations

[@zawn8221]

After beating biolizard for the first time we're forced to go unlock the chaos surf, however while still on the tower the physics were noticeably much less restrained

[@Lazardeve2]

Wow thats crazy xd.

[@joshshrum2764]

I actually fell through the floor during the biolizard fight.

[@GamingTopTen]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="418">6:58</a> As someone who has dabbled in game development, patching a single frame of a T-Pose that 99.999% of people would miss is the biggest waste of resources I can think of. Half the fun is finding shortcuts.

[@MarioMastar]

Yeah, plus all assets have to load in and usaully the black screen and "Loading..." is actually just an image in front of the camera hiding all the assets loading until they're all there. This happens in EVERY game as there usually is time taken for a character to spawn in and fall to thier expected position. Though it's funny you can catch the T pose here, it doesn't look like a "mistake" that's worth correcting. if anything it means the game loads so fast, you can see the default poses before they transition while still being able to play which if anything is a testament to how WELL built Shadow Generations is.

[@Soldaraku]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="478">7:58</a> Fun Fact, besides the last two bosses of that game, there is only one level where you play as Shadow on the Ark. Final Chase. And the Big Cameo in that stage has Big _inside_ one of those gravity tube things. How? How did you get in there Big? ... ... ... Also my favorite Big conversation in this game is the one where he reveals he's befriended Maria and Gerald. That's just adorable to me.

[@MarioMastar]

That would be really interesting if he actually knew them. I wouldn't be against the idea of him going from 20 years old to over 50 as Sonic Team Racing, he himself compared himself to Eggman when trying to defend characters with "moustaches" from being prejudiced against. Also reminds me of the Sonic and the Secret Rings "Big's travels" where he details how he ended up in the 1001 Arabian nights book and his thoughts on the various things he saw. So if he can somehow end up in a book, he can end up in one of those gravity tubes. What I do find really odd though is why Act 2 of Space Colony Ark plays a remix of Final Rush again....neither act plays Final Chase, which is really odd. Though I guess you can choose to play it yourself if you want.

[@syweb2]

​@@MarioMastar Maybe because one of the Shadow 05 ARK levels plays a Final Chase remix?

[@spongebobfan78]

Some fun facts about SxSG: -This was already pointed out by RadicalSoda, but in case you haven't watched his video (and this is something I've noticed even when I first saw the gameplay at the Samsung TGS), as much as the team wanted you to believe that Metal Overlord's boss fight takes place on a sunken Final Fortress, the surrounding buildings are actually recolored Chemical Plant buildings from Forces and Frontiers. -In the Sonic Gens portion, the drift is apparently slightly stronger than the original game and gives more height during drift launches. I heard this from the speedrunner, DGF, when I asked if there are any differences in speedrunning Modern Sonic stages in the remaster compared to the original if the drop dash wasn't used. -The Japanese voice over pretty much retains the original script, maybe except the redubbing of the actors that were replaced and Modern Sonic's additional dialogue for saving his friends (or so I heard). -The story trailer has the cutscene where Shadow beats up Doom's Eye. If you watched the Japanese version of that trailer, you can still hear Kirk's grunts while beating up the Doom's Eye in background while Kōji Yusa's voice is being heard. This is much more evident during the "Korone Gakuen" concert/event where a modified version of the trailer was played where you can CLEARLY hear Kirk's grunts. -Speaking about "Korone Gakuen", for both the Noon and Night parts, after Korone and Okayu's duo performance, everything fades to black and aforementioned modified story trailer for SxSG plays. It starts out regularly, as if there were just playing the trailer like normal UNTIL the part where Shadow beats up Doom's Eye. Instead of the ingame Sunset Heights Act 1 music playing, the full track is instead played LIVE by the band. After the Time Eater was shown, the trailer transitions to gameplay clips with sound effects. After that, the concert/event continues with Korone revealing her Sonic outfit in full 3D and sang a set list of Sonic songs (Sonic Heroes, Escape from the City, Reach for the Stars and Hongami Precious Moment). -Not really directly about SxSG, but speaking of Korone, when she did her sponsored stream for SxSG (as well as Superstars), she invited her genmate Ookami Mio, just for the sole reason that the latter resembles Shadow from the spiky hair, being animal-based, and sporting a black, red and white color scheme.

[@justsome500yearoldwithsmug2]

I legit didn't click it was even meant to be Final fortress, honestly I knew that just straight up looked like the Chemical plant from forces but I was wondering why the recolor and even with the eggfleet being thrown out I just presumed Eggman had them during out forces story anyway. That's my fault for not finishing Heroes lmao

[@mawdewile]

Oo, also, the first cutscene where Black Doom appears parallels some camera positions and animations to the opening of Shadow the Hedgehog. (RadicalSoda also highlighted this in his video)

[@superlagbro192]

Apparently the first fact about metal overlord isn't true. Someone did a side by side comparison, and they are new assets, just extremely similar to chemical plant from forces.

[@moperry8399]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="155">2:35</a> the return of the equippeded

[@alsomawdewile]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="364">6:04</a> In a perfect world…

[@thomasverslycken2563]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="349">5:49</a> that kind of means that the OG Sonic rush is the only Sonic game represented into the original that is no longer really represented since Blaze is supposed to represent 06

[@clonedindividual6698]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="365">6:05</a> I almost believed it. It scared the shit out of me.

[@normalichu]

One funny thing you can do with the white space loop is: go to the bottom of the loop, skip the first dashpad, and you'll be able to see things from a slightly different perspective... Neat. Another neat thing (probably more well known) is that if you get an S-rank on a challenge gate in Sonic Generations, the gate will sparkle.

[@sansywastaken]

Regarding the invisible floor in the Ocean Palace loop, there's another weird thing about it. I did this exact trick a while back, and after jumping off the invisible floor, the camera moved behind Classic Sonic as if it were a Modern level. This made it pretty much impossible to finish the level cause the camera didn't follow Classic Sonic.

[@aeon87]

In Sonic Gens Collection Room, you had to hold select to enter a secret trophy room where you could input tons of passwords for character models. In SXSG, there's a prompt for accessing it right away in the room and all the models are viewable from the start.

[@SonicDaHog]

I actually tried to beat Shadow Generations without the analog stick a few weeks back. It was pretty fun and painful and I took note of all impossible levels and challenges. Excited to see which ones you get past

[@benpopalisky1168]

Great work, Mawde. Imagine if they actually included the Chronicles song in the game. That would make some stages hilarious to play with that song.

[@zachpro5475]

They should add that as a DLC for April fools

[@spongebobfan78]

Reminds me of the fact that the most representation that Chronicles had was the Dream Bobsleigh event in the Wii version of Mario and Sonic at the Winter Olympics

[@Placeholder501]

Big can also be randomly found in Secret Rings.

[@beatziegraham6928]

There is an unused song in generations that I wish got used in the remake. The time break skill was supposed to play Cyber Track Zone from Sonic Advance 3 but it got cut. WHY DOES SEGA HATE US ADVANCE FANS!? BRING IT BACK!

[@DOYOUGOTGAMEONYOURPHONE]

“Maria look what I found” pulls out his collection of every character model

[@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32]

...so apparently all of generations' original glitches are apparently present, as well as a new version of the spagonia rocketing out of bounds in _chemical plant_ using a spindash and hitting a bubble out of the giant loop. You'll start flying OUT OF THE STAGE INTO THE BLACK VOID and there is literally no way to escape, you can't die as your i frames are stuck, you can't restart as it'll stick you in 3d, and you can't quit cause the game will crash

[@rageinducing8368]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="257">4:17</a> * *leans in as close as I can* *

[@RClipsGaming101]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="242">4:02</a> I RANDOMLY found that in the OG Genrations earlier this year and accidentally got soft-locked because of it.😅😅 I think it's there to prevent Sonic from falling into the other loops when he's at the apex. Best guess.

[@proceededspy1370]

While it is not a neat thing i still find it funny. Remember back in Sonic Heroes when attacking with Knuckles it sounds like he is saying "Shit rock", well when Shadow swings with the Doom morph he says "Hate you". (And i hope now you can never unhear it) Look man i am sorry i fell off the first stage withing the first 20sec, this is what happens when i don't get a manual telling my how to move on the controller, like your own game had back in 2005, and i have to explore it myself. Not really, but i do miss those old manuals.

[@elibonham4388]

At <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="310">5:10</a> there is this horrible glitch in sonic uneashed involving the chao hand puppet that can actually screw up platnum journey. If you talk to him without buying eveey product from him in Holoska he straight up just dissapears to never be seen again. If you dont by everything from him, say goodbye to that platinum

[@Nister.N]

One of the quests involving the old lady from apotos can break and she will disappear forever. This messes up 100% because she gives an art book when you finish the quest. This can be fixed if you fork in 2 bucks and buy a dlc adventure pack which i find to be hilarious

[@elibonham4388]

@Nister.N the dlc is good though wo it shoulnt be an issue

[@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="178">2:58</a> i think it's because the bouncy thing doesn't activate and the shield's bouce recognizes it as a slope, so it goes the other way

[@Abykitty06]

dude i love these lil neat things videos they are awesome

[@coleminer8847]

Its a shame these videos dont do as well as the challenge runs Theirs still a lot of effort put into em, granted less due to the smaller scale, but still

[@MrSonicGuy3765]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="235">3:55</a> I accidentally found this glitch when I was tryna beat seaside hill 1 without spindashing becasue the cannon doesn't shoot classic that fast :I

[@SpicyLad-9]

I love Big's treatment in recent years

[@mawdewile]

We stand Big the Cat

[@pyritenightmare]

Big the Cat is my favorite little (big) guy. Always a delight when he's featured.

[@Scorbunzx]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="173">2:53</a> it probably acts like a slope. If you bounce on the curvy part then it will send you towards the opposite direction.

[@MarioMastar]

My brother and I always say "Fellas and Felitas!" It just rolls and works perfectly. XD

[@DistortedChick]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="239">3:59</a> if you Splindash right after landing there... Something very funny happens.

[@mawdewile]

Mmmmm I need to boot up the game and see what happens…

[@DistortedChick]

@mawdewile lol

[@2火]

Thanks for explaining what the video was all about in the beginning!

[@tubaraofluente]

after watching this, I confirm it is indeed neat

[@tubaraofluente]

3:27 especially this one

[@sonicmeerkat]

love seeing the ending song come together as the videos go by, wondow how long until you gotta start using the extended version?

[@bowserknight]

I also found something weird in Chemical Plant Act 2 but I have no idea what I did to cause it. After the part where you fall down this tall pipe, where you have to avoid bubbles coming from all sides (where the 2nd Chao is located), you run down this spiral path. There's 2 ways here: you either drop into the water or you jump onto a rail that brings you on top of a loop. If you go over the loop and then drop down to the right of it, there's some way you can glitch through that loop and fly out of bounds, after which you're stuck INSIDE one of the walls. However I have no idea how I did it, and I wasn't able to reproduce it again.

[@BennetStrampe]

The Big easter egg had me fumbling because i played this game to death and never knew about it. Turns out that's only a thing in the original version, not Battle😢

[@JayboCorp.2014]

Correction: Big has *tons* of cameos in Battle and HD, the Treasure Hunting ones have just been replaced with a ring.

[@BennetStrampe]

@JayboCorp.2014 i checked prison lane, mission street, metal harbor and pyramid cave and only in pyramid cave i was able to see a ring

[@vittokyokoxpokemon5969]

ALL HAIL SHADOW ….Heroes rise again

[@luisleom7018]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="237">3:57</a> eso me ha pasado bastantes veces por mera coincidencia, lo mejor es que si haces un spin-dash atraviesas el suelo y sigues el camino correspondiente con vista rara, con la cámara bloqueada

[@rockyjmoon3]

Oh my god! That Seaside Hill loop completely threw me off when I first discovered it. Literally Day 1 when the game came out

[@graftongazaway]

One time I was trying to get to one of the shortcuts in the beginning of Chemical Plant Act 2 in the Switch version. Where I accidentally clipped my self into and then through one of the roads.

[@ThatOneIdea]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="153">2:33</a> Equippeded

[@Cheezbal470]

Lol

[@lizdevine2525]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="518">8:38</a> Is this supposed to be a dis or not? I can't tell anymore. The irrationality of Ian Flynn hate in the Sonic community has me second-guessing everything.

[@TARDISES]

It's recognition that yes, he absolutely *would* do a deep cut like that.

[@mawdewile]

Wasn’t really trying to make it sound like a dis. I’ve mostly been on board with how Ian writes the stories.

[@lizdevine2525]

@@mawdewile Got it. Like I said, the pervasiveness of the insults has probably got me paranoid. Personally, the fact that the current writer actually wants to be and is excited to be writing Sonic media is a massive step up from where we were 5 or so years ago, but... 🤷‍♀️

[@szkraft220]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="227">3:47</a> kao the kangoroo! :D

[@gabrielox5110]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="602">10:02</a> uuuuh, foreshadowing

[@CamilleAlexander-k5e]

the patreon reading was so creative hahaha, cute idea

[@Yousef77077]

The gasp you made when you saw the chronicles song was golden

[@DrRank]

Fun fact: you can reach the Chaos Island area of the map without unlocking Doom Morph by using a Chaos Control Rail from Rail Canyon. But if you do so, the level won't be selectable.

[@Mr.Board_]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="95">1:35</a> i think this was in the original

[@clawcakes2]

WOO TIME TO COME BACK TO THIS VIDEO IN A MONTH ONCE I'VE ACQUIRED AND BEATEN THE GAME

[@DaviTalks-q3o]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="366">6:06</a> guys this is NOT real, this is just our imagination (edit I thought this was real)

[@Lanoman123]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="597">9:57</a> there’s also a near frame perfect moment to boost mid air and Chaos Spear Glide that’s used in speedruns on this slide

[@LucasAWS1]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="224">3:44</a> CLASSIC SONIC IS PEAK UES CLASHING WITH THE BAL 😅 Ball??

[@sehtuk3953]

Very minor thing, but in the Neo Devil Doom fight, he will occasionally roar after being hit by Shadow. This roar uses the same stock sound effect that the Mannequins in the original Silent Hill 2 use when you hit them. This knowledge will appeal to like 2 people.

[@Sonicfever.]

How many slides does it take to complete shadow generations when?

[@theringmaster6434]

Also fun fact: The battle pose is very similar to the pose that Vegeta makes before his first fight with Goku

[@borederlands5387]

wait wentos has ENTIRELY escaped my brain since the last time i played uinleashed's story was almost 15 years ago, i know i recognized that puppet when i was a kid

[@rageinducing8368]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="510">8:30</a> EXCUSE ME!!?!????

[@extremmefan7305]

ok you actually got me with that Chronicles stunt. I actually went to doublecheck that on the Wiki. XD

[@Zomboy4313]

Why did the Sonic Chronicles music not existing sadden me

[@valmid5069]

[@kelabsmath]

We all love big :)

[@heartcartridge9834]

Hell yeah more neat things 🔥

[@CalmEnergy2125]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="359">5:59</a> it most likely is because of licensing issues, mostly on segas part it seems like. according to hideki naganuma , the composer for sonic rush, segas the reasonn that most of the sonic rush ost isn't on spotify, probably due to not renewing a license or something along those lines. fun fact that is also sonic generations related, the only song from rush that IS on spotify is back 2 back, which is likely due to its inclusion in the 3ds version of generations for water palace in that game

[@Hurtle885hu8bu]

“Kao” means face in Japanese, and the rocks in Seaside Hill have spooky faces on them. You can’t really see them in 2D because they’re on the rim, but I assume it’s still there.

[@VirtuaMaster]

honestly, I live for these neat things videos

[@fangyboi295]

Idk if anyone has pointed this out yet, but the black moon (the weird black doom sphere in the "middle" of white space) follows shadow with its eyes, and just around the map in general up to a certain point. (I have a video on my channel that shows it working lol)

[@xeniax7]

kao the kangaroo mentioned,..... goat.....

[@biscuitygudness]

LETS GO NEAT THINGS SERIES LETS GOOOOOOOO

[@daxx3y]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="411">6:51</a> looks like the same pose Knuckles does on the cover of Sonic Heroes

[@enderking5220]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="525">8:45</a> *record scratch SFX* Wait hold on a sec, Big the cat is aware of sonic 06? Not even Sonic recalls that as per the latest twitter take over answers. How

[@Trivial_Man]

He isn't. Soleana as a location still exists and Elise is still a princess there, it's just nothing interesting ever happened there since 06 undid itself. Big independently met Elise at some point

[@sonict2241]

ok this is all cool and such but where can i get that sonic dunking the wii bowling ball image from the opening

[@mawdewile]

I think I put it in the community tab like 4 months ago

[@inteleonmasterdavid319]

I love the patron supporters of the world thing. It always cracks a smile... But what was that challenge you said you were about to spoil?

[@Bathew_Gavew]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="338">5:38</a> *do you want to play with me?*

[@TroboTicTac]

?

[@thecextreem4865]

Another classic Mawde banger Also first

[@soniclight6229]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="411">6:51</a> what's the name of the sunset heights remix?

[@mawdewile]

It’s the Act 2 remix from Shadow Generations

[@MichMaslo]

KAO THE KANGAROO MENTIONED

[@dr.blockcraft6633]

In the Planet wisp Level, classic Sonic part, I activated The glitch At <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="35">0:35</a>. It got Me stuck Inside the Wall, and I had To reset The level. I also Crashed the Game in One of Classic sonics Challenges, also For planet Wisp.

[@GameGod77]

I deadass thought they put a sonic chronicles song in there. That was a good bait.

[@dankhankhill4443]

JUMPING?!?!? maybe

[@CrystalDreamcast]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="601">10:01</a> I won’t say what it could be but I think you know what it may be

[@ultimaboi2950]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="155">2:35</a> ok I swear you’re just doing it in purpose at this point

[@TroboTicTac]

All of these are in the original unless they require a drop dash

[@nora-yc6fi]

Ik in that sonic 3 idle he's just pointing with his finger but why does it look like he's flipping you off first before pointing forward

[@RuralNanobot287]

Call us felons.

[@soniclight6229]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="524">8:44</a> how the heck big knows about 06? How he remembers it?

[@TroboTicTac]

The location and the princess still exist... 💀

[@vamoooshka]

Haha sonic like the hedgog

[@JackDout]

Ballin

[@TreyH.006]

I hate your kind for getting into Smash over my boi Shadow!😭😭😭

[@DuckDuck-h7i]

can you beat shadow generations without sliding

[@NoppyOwO]

yipee

[@Caleb-k2b]

Someone should do a video about recycled sonic music

[@TheFallenStar64]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure they changed modern sonics hurt animation to resemble hurt animation from sonic battle. Classics hurt animation might be different too but I can't tell

[@zachpro5475]

Can you do a qna

[@mawdewile]

Mayhaps in the future. Idk

[@TuftyTaltan]

Fellems 💛 🤍 💜 🖤 Waiting for slang to catch up with my gender

[@Herrscher-of-Autism]

Engagement for the algorithm