Max Battles fix Niantic's mistakes.

[@oyend-wc5ge]

Everything you said is spot on. As a high level player who plays with 3 other family members, us 4 beat all raids with no problem, including primals and mega rayquaza. The problem is we cant touch gigantamax pokemon. In theory, it would've made more sense to create another mega type energy for gigantamax so we can use our already owned dynamax pokemon, but nooooooo. Cant do that, gotta get the actual gigantamax. Dynamax system seems like a great money maker for niantic, but my family is actually thinking of taking a break as the way dynamax system bums us out.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

Yeah, I think they're setting themselves up more for new players and just hoping older players keep going. I've been thinking of how they could let us make older Pokemon into Dmax/Gmax version, but most of what I come up with just defeats the purpose of a new system. The best I've come up with is an MP "bank" that we can contribute to, and maybe once you sacrifice enough MP into it, it gives you an item that can grant Dmax to an older Pokemon.

[@ulrikruby]

@@PokeeSeanGO It’s so weird Niantic decided to make max mushrooms into a power boost. I was expecting that it would be a rare item that you could only get at certain big events (go fest, wild area, etc.), and then pay for a ticket for more. That is because I thought they would do the same as in Sword and Shield, where they can unlock Gigantamax. Now that they turned max mushrooms into a power boosts instead, I don’t think we will ever get something that lets us turn a Dynamax Pokémon into a Gigantamax Pokémon.

[@2TheMaxKing2]

you literally can do all gigantamax bosses with 4 players you just have to properly prepare

[@traverserred]

@@2TheMaxKing2yep, and half the people don’t want to invest in their dynamax Pokémon because Gigantimax might come which makes it harder on everyone doing these when half the people there are using unevolved, unpowered up, unleveled up dynamax Pokémon

[@2TheMaxKing2]

@@traverserred i mean yea u gotta start somwhere but if have the starter as g-max you are good to go.... so where is ur excuse now?

[@Kkubey]

When they were released as this solo-able raid on the go, I really felt it was enjoyable. When they were no longer solo-able, I had no one to do them with and they just don't exist for me. I am no longer invested enough to drive through the entire city to meet others. Just as I couldn't do the 5* raids locally on a consistent basis.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I’m in the same boat. They still cater most to city players, and I’m sure they have a reason for that.

[@Kkubey]

@@PokeeSeanGO I am in a city, but it still takes me 1-3 hours of my day to actually get to a group and back, and then you'd at least play together for another half an hour. City traffic is painfully slow. I can imagine that they would see most players that they earn money with living in cities just based on demographics and that they are more likely to be able to raid. They might draw the conclusion that investing in other areas won't earn them anything.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

@@Kkubey Ah, good point. I used to live in Vancouver, so I understand the traffic grind...

[@chaosdragun1608]

Such a shame its a data collection company masquerading as a gaming company.....if it werent for pokemon i wouldn't event know who Niantic is

[@PokeeSeanGO]

Just how it goes I guess. GameFreak certainly couldn’t have made GO on their own. Definitely a double edged sword. I wonder how different of a game it would be if the payment structure was more like an MMO and not a mobile game.

[@chaosdragun1608]

@PokeeSeanGO for sure. Ive often wondered if the game was designed exactly like it is when people spoof but to fast travel using something like the SS Anne or taxi service. I honestly would love to see a pokemon game that functions like a regular video game but merged with Google maps. Balancing a game around where you live is very broken

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I can imagine a distant future where AR glasses could run a game like Pokémon GO to be truly an immersive, real world experience. We’re far off, but I’m sure that exists as an ambition at the studio.

[@MarkFonts]

…and that would have been fine for niantic. i don’t think about square enix unless i played their games?

[@hydra1plprivate942]

oh no raids are actually accesible to free to players and make the game fun without having to spend money, what a mistake!

[@JRico847]

Max battles spot needs to be more widely available if this is how they go.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

It would help if they weren't deep into private property, too! The farmers around here have them right at their house.

[@ulrikruby]

My biggest problem is that they turn on and off at random, so you can’t decide on a meeting place earlier than the day of the battles. For the Gigantamax Lapras raid day, we just hoped enough power spots would be available near the place we were planning to start. But the fact that they are based on businesses, makes them placed a lot worse than pokéstops and gyms, since there just aren’t any in parks.

[@zekofusion]

I do way more dmax raids now a days than actual raids, they just feel more affordable then spending 5 R.R passes a day (1,050 Pcoins a day) you get max particles 1000-1400 for free plus whatever you had leftover from your last play and you are pretty much set. And when I decide to throw money at niatanic to do more dmax raids pass the daily limit for free particles; those MP tubes are quite handy and are cheap aswell and gives you enough to do a couple or almost a dozen more raids depending on what you are raiding for or if you are buying the 3pack or not. ((me rambling & and glazing the Dmax feature lol)) although not a flawless feature I honestly I think Dmax and Gmax is a nice slice of fresh air for high lvl players who are at endgame bored out of their minds

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I actually really like that they're at different tiers so you can do a good number of lower level battles each day for free. Machop being 400 MP is a little much, though. But knowing I can easily get a couple dozen extra Squirtle candy or whatever is kinda nice. I have a lucky 100% gmax Blastoise that needs to eat.

[@zekofusion]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@PokeeSeanGO yeah I agree with machop it should have been a tier 1 raid. Machop doesn’t even feel as like a tier 3 raid, I find machop very easy to takedown swiftly compared to the other tier 3 raids we had (Beldum, Falinks, & Cyroganal) and the raise to 400MP for tier 3 raids wasn’t a very neat thing but oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@MeIsCucumber]

@@zekofusion Machop is a tier 2 raid, they just choose that tier 3 and 2 cost the same which is kinda bs. However I do hope that means they will release tier 4 raids that I can solo 😊

[@cocolanfofolan2508]

I wish they'd make these into a queue system. Like how the battle castles in Harry Potter Wizards United were. You basically had to go to the spot and enter the battle locally, but then you'd get partied up with random players at other spots. They did eventually change that due to covid as well of course, but that was a really good system that I feel like you can still decide to meet up with a lot of people, but even if you can't you still get to do the content. What they are doing with dynamax battles is 100% alienating a lot of people and they need to adress that. I also do have a slight hope that these legendary dynamax mons aren't exactly as hard as the gigantamax ones so maybe it's not too impossible to beat. They do also launch them on a monday... like worst day of the week to launch something.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

That sounds like a great idea. Gets everyone out and still maintains a global community of some kind.

[@zekofusion]

I get that the whole naming thing the Max day being on a day like a friday would have been so much better fr

[@cocolanfofolan2508]

@@zekofusion True, the redeeming factor is that they are available the remaining days of the week too, just in all power spots on max mondays. But definitely would be better on a friday though I guess people also are pretty booked on that day.

[@Tagman50]

Excellent video, pretty well lines up with a lot of my own thoughts on the whole process as well. I have to say that I do quite enjoy what the 'challenge' of Gigantamax battles has done for my community though, even though I can acknowledge that in turn this is Niantics plan playing out all along. This gave players a reason to come together to take on a new challenge whereas before, not even raids themselves gave reason to talk to anyone but the people you came with 😅 Releasing the Kanto birds into Dynamax while we currently don't have optimal counters is all part of the plan, these will get much easier down the road once we start seeing a broader range of GMax and Rock types in the counter pool, so for now we're obligated to either rely on numbers, OR wait till down the track when they become more accessible. GIgantamax Kingler being released in time for Moltres will be no mistake either, that's where the players will see the power of Gigantamax in battle to make em all the more tasty 🥴 The force is strong with this one... Would love to see more of these vids from your channel mate :) Obviously (at least for me) very thought provoking stuff 🤣

[@PokeeSeanGO]

Sounds like you get it ;) Yeah, I do think people don’t give them enough credit at Niantic. Someone over there is thinking pretty hard about which Pokémon to make available and when. I also quite enjoy the overall challenge. Having something to actually plan out is fun. Of course, if I had more time to play, I wouldn’t have to think quite so hard about managing my resources. 😂

[@kameib]

I came back on Nov 2024 and when I understood Dynamax battles, I fell in love with them. On an already overcrowded pool of people with Lv50 perfect mega stuff that can easily solo anything Niantic puts on their way, Dynamax gave me a reason to grind and be useful on the Dynamax Raids, instead of being carried by the above experienced players on any normal raid. It's like a new chance, with a twist of strategy instead of only spam tapping the screen. A reason to go out and walk to collect MP in order to battle and progress. I felt so good when I finally soloed a Cryogonal (with no attk Bonus from previous trainers).

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I agree, it feels like a sequel to the game, in some respects. There's a lot more "gaming" to it. Still pretty simple, but I enjoy the added mechanics. Looking forward to leaving legendary birds at Power Spots for some extra candy!

[@tonytromboney]

Idk man, maybe I’m a sucker but… I took a break from POGO for a few years and got back into it recently. The power creep of Megas and Shadows has been insane since I last played- I’ve spent more on the game in a year than I had when starting out just trying to play catch-up. I honestly like that the Max system is starting everyone over on an even playing field, and it’s nice to be in on the ground floor of a soft reboot in a way. Not to mention, I think the battles themselves and the mechanics behind using different moves is way more interesting than spam-tapping your screen for max DPS in a normal raid. Maybe I’m a shmuck and Niantic is just trying to squeeze more money and data from me, but I like the state of the system at the moment 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I agree with all you said! I think I came off too negative in the video, but yeah, the Max system is far more interesting than the base game. And I agree, it’s like a soft reboot. It’s like the max system is the “campaign” of an expansion and everything else is just random loot for collectors.

[@jendaar]

Scheduling my life around going out into the cold/rain/heat/dark and not winning or catching a pokemon with the possibility of not having enough people show up? Sounds like a winning combination.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

It really is rough on a lot of players. Winter doesn’t help!

[@PlanttoLive]

Like the image/video transition esp to your weeky update. Great job. Plus this analization type of video

[@TreFKennedy]

I respect your perspective, i prefer Remote raids than D/G-Max battles

[@metamorfosisdeambulante]

Well…. Precisely why I dont play Dynamax… but yeah, its not going to work for me. I can read the writing on the wall: I will stop playing. Wooooo!!!

[@jendaar]

Also, if you look at rhe history of pokemon raids in Pokemon Go and max battles in sword and shield, they have an interesting correlation. They came out in Go first and then the main series at almost the same time. The mechanic is basically the same: bunch of players fight a giant pokemon and after defeating it it shrinks in order to catxh it. It will be interesting how it goes going forward. I have a feeling they will only copy the same pokemon released in the main series game. Also, it will be interesting to see to see how they introduce tera raids.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I really can’t imagine how tera would work in GO. Maybe as a PVP gimmick?

[@kathygotlost]

I think you're spot on, and I'm not thrilled about it. It's a frustrating system as it exists now, but I would expect that to improve. However, if Max Battles are the way forward, they really have to do something to improve availability and accessibility of Max whatever spots. The places that got these spots would never pass Wayfarer criteria and a lot of them didn't in the first place. That's embarrassing and feels so invasive when it's a home business. They are also incredibly unreliable for planning large, in-person events.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I completely agree about the placement of them. Wayfarer would have rejected most of them instantly. There is a spot near me that I tried to nominate several time (unique little shop) and was denied repeatedly. Now it’s a power spot 😂 I feel they could have just used the PokeStops and had it work fine doing both, like how gyms are also raids. Except, improved, unlike how raids block the gym.

[@bobw21]

stop playing or come on board.....stop playing. any suggestions for the next game to play?

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I need to get back to Eldin Ring, personally. I've been playing nothing but GO for most of the past 2 years, just with the way my availability works with a toddler and other commitments, so I'm looking forward to just playing ANY other game.

[@basillah7650]

@@PokeeSeanGO You would get more viewers and likes if you did eldin ring videos plus niantic are sh1t so you saying you like their sh1t changes will get you dislikes from your video titles without people even watching them.

[@t3hsolo]

Marvel Rivals is free and just got the fantastic 4

[@VQuinn-he9rv]

@@basillah7650 the chronically online complainers are not the only player based for this group. I like this guys work. I hope he continues to make these short videos even if he plays other games. If people wanna play traditional at home games, they should do so and stop complaining about this game. It seems so simple.

[@Raichu159]

play mainline pokemon

[@cmill8]

Great video and very well edited! I hope we get more videos like so

[@SalvaBidoof]

I had stoppped playing in 2022 because i felt i couldn't do anything, i couldn't make coins, raid passes were too expensive, almost all my pokemon were dead, i didn't have many pokestops around me, nobody raided in my area and more. September 2024 I decided to come back to the game and so you know how many pokemon I needed to heal, i only healed them all last week, but the wild area event and december com day kinda got me back on track

[@PokeeSeanGO]

It’s rough playing without enough pokestops. I had to personally develop the area around me, which took forever through the Wayfarer system. Before that, I’d run out of pokeballs daily and would only restock when I took my daughter to a playground and let an auto catcher do its thing for an hour.

[@mr.smiley8385]

i hope and kinda feel like those gmax legendarys are going to be like the rocket shadow raids.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I hope so. Manageable by 4 players with decent enough counters.

[@AsThePokeballTurns]

You're video is well done and I'm glad you put it out. The only disagreement I have is the location data. It's such an overblown point and honestly has little to do with their motivation. A lot of your other points are the key takeaways on why the changes happened for Pokemon GO. Niantic never developed a solid wheel to keep the content going and have struggled to develop one, you saw that with the initial release of Mega Raids and how badly those flopped. It is further enhanced by Niantic not having a gaming background and not being able to develop ways to keep the game engaging with the Pokemon IP. Ultimately, Pokemon GO is a marketing tool for Pokemon in the real world, a cog in the wheel, that is best utilized for its mobile aspect. There isn't another cog in the Pokemon machine that is quite like it, which is why the play at home features had to go. Pokemon GO does little for The Pokemon Company being a play at home mobile game. Pokemon has plenty and far superior options for that type of niche. I'm not giving Niantic slack, but understanding how Pokemon as a whole works and viewing it from that lens, the moves they have made make a lot more sense. Keep up the great work! Look forward to seeing what you do next!

[@VQuinn-he9rv]

It’s an overblown point, especially since so much of our devices and apps have been accessing location and so much more of data all this time, often without even clear consent… I’m not a gamer and new to this one, but it’s shocking how much the player base complaint and I guess they just need a bad guy to point fingers to. I’m not a big fan and outside of a couple of tickets. I haven’t given them money but it’s just bizarre to me that people play a game that they seem to hate.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I agree that people give Niantic too much flack. I came across as negative in this video, but their decisions are all understandable for a business point of view, and from a game design perspective, they’re trying to make the game that they’ve envisioned. There will always be conflicting motivations from within, since it needs to be fun and profitable.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I agree the location data collection is overblown, as some people have gone off the deep end with theories about CIA involvement. However, I’m sure the data about player hotspots and literal footage gathered by AR and pokestop scanning is valuable, most likely in a commercial sense. I think if it wasn’t a great marketing tool for the franchise as a whole, it wouldn’t have lasted so long. It’s a free on-boarding mechanic to the series.

[@AsThePokeballTurns]

@@PokeeSeanGO Absolutely! But the AR and Pokestop scanning isn't location data, that's the Lightship/Wayfarer system, which is definitely a long-term money maker that allows Niantic to broker that system to potential buyers for future AR game development. The hotspots are what people refer to when it comes to location data, which isn't worth that much.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

@@AsThePokeballTurns I see what you're saying, but the location paired with up-to-date visual data has some value. There's a company, for example, that pays hobbyist drone operators for high res images of locations, because they can sell that to a variety of interested parties. It's a lot more detailed that satellite imagery. The money may not be in it for Niantic today, but they're building a map of the world at a local level. They're definitely competing with giants like Google when it comes to location data, and IIRC they were started by ex-Google employees. Point being, I think they incentivize real-world play for more than purely gameplay and philosophical reasons.

[@Eldoradogold333]

Perfect take as someone who started playing early 2024 till now I’m still enthralled in the hype of legendaries and have spent some coin on this game I think I got another year before I start to slow down

[@PokeeSeanGO]

It’s definitely a fun game as a beginner. Every new event and month brings new Pokémon to catch! And if you’ve played the main series for a while, seeing the shiny rate in GO is astounding. I’ve played through every main series game and have never seen a random shiny. But in GO, it’s a fairly common experience, and still thrilling to see those sparkles.

[@t3hsolo]

PvP is the only reason to play any pokemon game. If you want to play collecting just get a free emulator and a pokemon rom. No need to put yourself in potential danger interacting with strangers in a park after dark.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I’d enjoy PvP more if I didn’t need to spend so much time building a team the organic way. I’d argue that PvP is better through battle emulation where you can just pick your Pokémon, stats, and moves, and have a pure competition.

[@AmberCzesnolowicz]

i agree. all the pokemon games ive ever played I loved picking a team of 6, raising, training them and then beating the elite four with them. I also enjoy the strategy of picking the pokemon movesets and the turn based combat. When POGO came out with it's battle format....It's just aggressive finger tapping to me. It feels dull and i miss the strategic gameplay as i found in the mainline games

[@MellamoBlue]

Thank you!! I stop playing on September because I could smell the bs. It made no sense but now you made it make sense. I really enjoy your content, it is not only high quality, you also have an amazing personality that adds a bunch to all the data. Viewing from Peru and I hope just the best for you.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

Thank you for the kind words :) All the best to you as well.

[@VQuinn-he9rv]

Good video. I am pretty new but quickly realised the “monetise impatience” aspect. I’d add obsessive, compulsive and impulsive behaviour in general. And you know what… Fair enough. Games often involve making decisions. Businesses often involve making profit. Self- regulate in your own way, within your means, as long as it’s fun… is how I see it anyway. Thanks for the videos!

[@PokeeSeanGO]

Yup, it’s always going to be a give and take relationship with an ongoing live service game. Definitely need to set boundaries as the player.

[@owonapikins]

If the birds are indeed beatable with only 4 people, then i honestly wouldnt mind this as i really enjoy the max system... the issue currently is that things like gmax lapras take 40 people to beat, and if regular legendary battles will also take that much then i have no interest

[@PokeeSeanGO]

The only thing I’d still be a little bummed out about is that I have 2 power spots near me, but 6 gyms. And with the power spots rotating only every 2 days or so, I’m forced to drive to do any other battles. Definitely not down with spending the gas money. That’s life in the sticks, though.

[@VQuinn-he9rv]

@@PokeeSeanGOI’m not in the sticks really but also have way fewer power spots than poke stops and gyms currently. More than two I could walk to within half an hour walk or so but no more than a few. If there are any waystop eligible landmarks you can submit that are close to the poke stops and gyms you may try submitting them. I had one show up as a power spot

[@PokeeSeanGO]

True, I messed up the placement of a nomination in a park around here by placing it in the wrong cell, and now it’s a power spot. I do wish they just integrated them into the gyms or pokestops though instead of being separate POIs. Having PokeStops just rotate around being Power Spots and giving items/research regardless would have worked great. Some of the power spots are in terrible locations.

[@VQuinn-he9rv]

@@PokeeSeanGO oh I did the same thing a few months ago! In my area I liked that some overlapping poi became power spots but yeah I wish existing stops could also become spots. At least if max battles/particles become more important. Maybe they’ll reconsider the way they spawn. It’s also sometimes still buggy how often they spawn or how often I can battle them and earning candy from them so things are a still a work in progress. That means there could be hope for positive changes I guess. :)

[@markmendoza7402]

I think the Gigantamax money making system is flawed because Gmax battles are only accessible to power players or for those that live in very active communities. Up until the legendary birds reveal, there was absolutely no incentive to do any Gmax battles. Gmax Pokemon are regular Pokemon that have no benefits outside of their special battles.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I think it's the normal Dmax legendary, like the the birds, that will be more lucrative. And once enough people have teams of Dmax Legendary Pokemon, they'll be able to take down Gmax with smaller groups more regularly.

[@ulrikruby]

I don’t understand the point of saying “Gmax Pokémon are regular Pokémon that have no benefits outside of their special battle.” The same can be said for regular raids. Legendaries are just regular Pokémon too, you don’t need them for anything in the game. The only thing that is actually useful is Mega/Primal Pokémon, since they give you bonuses when catching. Raids and max raids have the exact same incentive. Get this to make the next easier. Max Pokémon at least have the advantage, that you can use them everywhere, so investing stardust and candy into my Dynamax Metagross is just better than doing it with a non Dynamax version.

[@Treebornfrog5383]

@@ulrikruby Why would i invest in dynamax pokemon that is inferior when i already have the regular pokemon or legendary already maxed or close to and 100% or 98% iv. This thinking only really applies to casual and new players. "Max Pokémon at least have the advantage, that you can use them everywhere" That's like bringing a mega pokemon to a raid and not mega evolving it and saying they can be used everywhere. Do you realise how unintelligent that sounds?

[@ulrikruby]

@@Treebornfrog5383 I understand not wanting to power up a Pokémon that is in many ways inferior to the Pokémon you already have. But think about it this way. Why did you originally power up those Pokémon? You probably did it to make raiding or taking out gyms easier. Now you have the same incentive for max raids. You can just ignore the max raids if you don’t care about them, no one is forcing you to do them. Just don’t get mad if they release a new Pokémon through max raids and you can’t beat it, because you ignored the feature.

[@rosagiusti7076]

Love ALL your videos - the more the merrier ❤

[@averydaboy]

I do enjoy you content and perspective on Go more of these would be cool. I came back to go last winter after 2016-17 .. a lot has changed and its been fun. I missed the whole remote raid boom and nerf and it seems like niantic is try to make its money back from nerfing it when they could just not nerf it .. maybe it goes back to getting that location data .. but topic at hand i think if they were planning todrop legendary birds in the dmax battles 1. we shouldve gotten a proper gmax counter to battle them 2. maybe slighltly less difficult seeing as only 4 people max can fight a dmax battle.. im lucky enough to play in NYC (spoofer central) so i can get gmax battles done with less difficulty than others but still having to rely on others is not ideal .. this was. alot lmao i think thats all i got

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I hope you're right about them capping Dynamax at 4-players. With Gmax being 40 (or possibly uncapped), I could see them making the lobbies for a 5-star Dmax hold more than 4. I actually wasn't around for the remote raid days, either. I started playing again just as they made that change. I couldn't then, and still can't, justify spending money on remote raids.

[@ulrikruby]

As someone who has played every day since mid 2017, I have never used real money on remote passes, and on spend pokécoins on them a few times, since I just don’t find them as enjoyable as going out with friends. During the lockdown we did get a lot of free remote passes, so I used those but never liked it. I’m actually very happy they made them more expensive, because some people in our local community, would ask to be invited to a raid and just send their friend code on facebook, instead of going outside for twenty minutes. I really hated that phase of the game, so I’m glad it’s over.

[@PrincessGizmo]

They will be easy. The lobby only holds 4 players

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I hope you're right. Gmax holds 40, so hopefully it's not something like 8-20.

[@MNUGGETTS]

I like your cat

[@cecagna]

I'm an on-and-off 2016 player and in two minds about Max battles. It very much feels like a soft reset to Pokemon Go and devalues most of the resources I've put into the game over the years. However, I am enjoying the casual gameplay loop of walking around my town, doing a route, spinning stops and gyms, and soloing Max battles. Finally getting my team powerful enough to solo Cryogonal felt like a major milestone. I haven't done any Gigantamax yet so I'll join the larger community when the next one comes out. Fundamentally the concept of Dynamax or Gigantamax is just silly to me. It was initially added to Sword and Shield and inspired by raid battles in Pokemon Go, but now it's somehow back in Pokemon Go?

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I think they just needed a way to silo the “raid” experience and Max Battles fit the bill. Or, they made it fit :P I also like the fundamentals of the system, as it feels a bit more like an actual game where you explore, battle, level, explore, etc.

[@clarknes3111]

I really like the Dynamax system. It rewards a small group of people for coordinating well and planning. That to me is way more fun and it gives a good end game grind. I do hope you can get XL candies from putting legendary pokemon in power spots though. Some way. Even if its only when you put them in a power spot where you beat a legend, I don't care. I don't want to have to grind 150 XL rare candies with the current XL Rare candy rates just to max out legendary pokemons max moves.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

It would be great if we get XL returns from Spots. A lot more rewarding than 20km walk. If the game launched with the Dmax Battles, me and 3 friends would be out there every day. As an aging millennial with too much on my plate, I just don't have the time/friends 😭 Maybe my daughter will play with me when she's older, if the game is still around. :P

[@SS-or7mz]

I guess I'm just one of those few players who want high iv maxed out legendary teams? I had been doing tons of raids before the remote raid cap and price hike. I rarely do any now. For me, it's just not worth the time or money if I'm not able to grind for high ivs, shinys, and xl candy to max a couple. I enjoy the max battles quite a bit. However, I do very few of them either because I don't have the community that want to do more than a handful and I can't get enough xl candy to make it worth it even if I am able to catch a nice iv one. Also, it used to just be a nice iv or shiny iv I was looking for. Now it is that, plus a special background, and it might not even have the needed moveset... Just not the kind of odds I'm even willing to attempt or bother with. Am I going to wait to be able to elite TM my shiny 96 iv dialga when that becomes available? Probably not, because something better will have came along before that. Then the cycle will start again. So basically just not bothering with any of it.

[@TreFKennedy]

I’m with you, i was a remote raider, since April 2023, unless it’s go feast or a certain raid day, i hardly remote raid, and 5 per day is rather quixotic

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I agree, they’ve gone too far with the random chances, ie. backgrounds/special moves. I do think it’s a minority of players that max out legendary Pokémon. In my entire community of about 40 or 50 people (that come out to events), there are 2 or 3 with accounts like that. The rest just level up to 40, mostly using rare candies.

[@TreFKennedy]

@ i understand

[@dhalson7878]

They just really don't like the solo player... I never thought about it this way Thank you for enlighten me. Imagine, raids, a side quest...

[@PokeeSeanGO]

True, and they consider multi account players to be cheaters. Truly punished for not having PoGo friends.

[@pointblank0020]

I find this game to be really unbelievable in how much it expects from people - it's not even just 'spend time playing', it's 'go outside and walk dozens of kms' (for the eggs, undeniably). It's really unreasonable. It's already a big ask to spend the amount of time that an MMO-type game requires. This game manages to add physical exertion on top of that, and the world isn't made for you to be walking with your phone glued to your face - it's dangerous. It's such bullshit when you take a look back and no other IP would get away with this. But because it's Pokemon people put up with all kinds of shit. That's how I feel about it. I think this game is worth trying for a couple months, because it's pretty unique. But that's it. I don't get people putting years into it. Just don't.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

You’re absolutely right, it wouldn’t be a success without the Pokémon IP. If Pokémon had a home MMO with the same mechanics as GO, mobile GO would be dead.

[@RyanMauer]

Smart and based take. I hadn't thought about Max content in this way. It checks out though.

[@Not_Asiro]

remote raid pass helps me a lot I live in a place where less pokemon player lives and the 5 star legendary boss are Imposible to solo so I use remote raid pass for join a good lobby to defite a raid boss

[@christian2809]

Anyone else noticed max spots disappesring. The last few days I have lost a lot of max spots in my area.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

Actually, yes. The reliable 1 near me is suddenly gone :( It was the only one near me with cell service...

[@jrcruz0414]

Great video! Your videos help me out a lot and this one was very eye opening for me. I returned to pogo in April 2024 from last playing spring 2018. I am missing a lot so I do honestly spend more money than my peers for the candies and stardust. I am in the medical field with limited time to play so impatience is a driving factor. I've been trying to take it more easier because you're right. Everything comes back eventually

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I spent WAY more than I thought I would when I got back into the game. It's definitely hard to keep up with limited time. it took a while for me to chill out, but seeing things like the Origin Forms and Primals cycle through twice this year really opened my eyes.

[@jaymorales252]

Please more videos. Your usual videos of the weekly review on PoGo are excellent. But I would also love to watch more filler videos if you can’t always do weekly ones. Please do more. And wow! Surprise face reveal. Had a very different image of you. Thank you for all your content.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

Haha well it’s not my first time on camera, but the others are also buried in videos. The weekly video will always be my priority, but I will experiment with some other content too.

[@HRCCPolar]

DMax and GMax pokemon were added solely for them to make more money. Max and Dmax is trying to make EVERYTHING you caught, up until now, useless. They want you to have to buy more storage space, they want you to have to buy max energy, they want you to buy the 2x mushrooms. This was the only thing they could come up with that basically makes people start over while spending more and more money. Niantic could have kept remote raids unlimited and been making bank, but they'd rather change everything else we already had to make their new money. Niantic has proven time and time again that they don't care about the players. The only people ive seen support d-bag, I mean Dmax, battles are the people who have played every day since launch. My community has TONS of active players and almost no one shows up for the max stuff bc no one cares and no one wants to have to collect all the pokemon again just bc it has a new ability. If they really wanted the max system to work they would have allowed older pokemon to max out and not just ones you catch at a max raid.

[@basillah7650]

They costing them money because cannot remote them making people quit that could only remote raid due to the limited time of the events.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

It’s all about money, you’re right there. I intend to not give them any this year. 😂

[@Cluckenstein]

Hot take but I hope they completely redo the raid system to be more similar to dmax down the line.

[@dave7474]

This game is basically unplayable as a new player without spending $10 on item bag or pokemon bag. No idea what items are good or not so its googling and absorbing 7 years of information as a brand new player, or increasing inventory size

[@PokeeSeanGO]

Agreed. It’s terribly inefficient to try and maintain a small item bag. I tell new players to just toss all their healing items because they’ll get better Pokémon any way.

[@stormsOFfire]

I quit daily playing. I will only logg in for the rare raids but even then, I hate how broken this game is and how much it just sucks up everyone's valuable time. Its just a real grind with not much back in return. Don't you just hate wasting a time throwing 20 balls at a raid and having it flee. Blew 20 min for nothing. I also have over 50 pokemon I would love to power up but never enough dust. Feels like the game is made for people who play it for more than 3 hours a day. I am going back to PC and console

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I’m the same. It was fun to play a lot at first when everything was new for me, but now I’m much more casual and will mostly just play to get new Pokémon when they release. I don’t have time to grind stardust and XP, and it’s just too repetitive anyway.

[@damangood]

Great video and great take on the new system. I like the new system, but my Wed night raid group refuses to participate unfortunately. It’s normal raids or nothing unless you’re in a city.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

Yeah, I think they would have had more success with this system if they'd introduced it sooner. So many players at this point really don't need to go after Dynamax to complete their Pokedex or even power up their current Legendary lineup.

[@ulrikruby]

A lot of people in my community keep asking what these Dynamax Pokémon are even good for. And I keep answering: “The same as raids, you need them to take on even stronger Pokémon, because eventually they will release new Pokémon like Eternatus which will only be available in eternamax battles. So we need to be ready.” I feel very confident that’s how we will end up getting Eternatus.

[@Treebornfrog5383]

The answer is nothing. They don't work outside of dynamax or gigantamax battles. Niantic made a pokemon go 2 inside pokemon go. Who would invest time and resources into pokemon that can't be used anywhere else. They are essentially a new type of shadow pokemon that refuse to stay in there form like mega pokemon do but with none of usefulness. At least mega pokemon stay that way for 8 hours at a time. If they release pokemon that are exclusive to max battles that aren't able to be used in raids i can see another large chunk of the community quitting from complete frustration.

[@ulrikruby]

@@Treebornfrog5383 What do you mean? The Dynamax and Gigantamax Pokémon are the only ones who can be used everywhere in the game. I powered up a Metagross for use in max battles, and now it keeps being used for gyms and raids. It is also very likely that some Pokémon will be released exclusively through max battles. I feel certain that’s how they will release Eternatus.

[@Treebornfrog5383]

@@ulrikruby Why would i power up a dynamax metagross when i have multiple level 50 shadow metagross that are better in ever possible way. It just makes no sense.

[@icesamurai8]

If what your saying is true, I think it needs to be easier to get candy and xls. I wouldn’t mind paying for more particle space

[@PokeeSeanGO]

Hopefully leaving Pokemon at 5-star Power Spots will mean they return with a lot of candy. Although, that doesn't help me out in the sticks... my Pokemon keep coming back empty handed.

[@icesamurai8]

@ I’m in the city and it’s touch and go with candy but I just wanted it a little easier for the “new legendarys”

[@speedcreatureYT]

6:48 That's not going to happen. Steranka is coping HARD. Hanke cannot recreate the summer 2016 hype, and they can't ever get close.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

Time will tell. I agree they can’t recapture the old days, but they’re going to try and set themselves up for the long term. They’ll catch up to the mainline games if they don’t try some new things to slow it all down.

[@Treebornfrog5383]

Week one player here. These dmax and gmax raids were dead on arrival imo. The fact they can't be used outside of the max battle system makes them worthless and niantic needs to give the playerbase a reason to care about them. I'll use the free partials most days to do shiny checks and collect rare candy and i do gmax raids for the dex and that's about it. Use to be a hardcore player, but now just regular. I am absolutely one of those players that gets the best mons/iv's and maxes out stuff wherever possible for raids. I respect your opinion but politely disagree. I feel dynamax/gigantamax battles will go the same as mega raids. Pretty terrible and not well released, but they will be fixed and get better over time. I think max battles could be really good, they just need some major changes to align with the rest of the game. I don't know whether that's possible with the way niantic operate these days but i'm optimistic.

[@basillah7650]

The only people that like them are the freeloading noobs that people like me carry in the raids they cannot even do the 3 star dmax stars without people like me that can solo them helping them spend a lot of dust and xl candy power my pokemon up plus got more than one account for the 5/6 star raids and they still suck and not worth the reward due to costing more energy to do them so got to find a bunch of power spots or spend coins to do more.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

It’ll be interesting to watch, either way. Legendary Dmax may start to sway people toward the system, or it may push them out altogether. The difficultly of them will be the main factor, I think.

[@airwreck213]

I don't care about dynamax battles, they don't affect me positively or negatively, they are just there

[@basillah7650]

They do hurt you lots of people only going be limited to 5/6 star d/gmax raids that might not be allowed to be traded.

[@piouspigeon9327]

I’m happy people have to go out. People that are crying are those that sit around and want to spend. They too lazy to go to power stations and walk 2km a day.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I actually like that they're not remote-able, too. Way more people showed up for them in my small community, and it was nice to get together with everyone.

[@SS-or7mz]

I just don't want to be limited because of all their laziness. We've got plenty of those here. We currently have four communities coming together for Gmax battles, some of us traveling an hour on those days. Even then, there are those that just want an entry into the pokedex. All I'm saying is, if you didn't help raid for a Gmax pokemon, do not ever request it from me in a trade.

[@piouspigeon9327]

@@SS-or7mz I’ve done every gmax fight and prepared by getting every correct gmax Pokémon. I don’t use trash like in your community.

[@dave7474]

Being disabled and unable to walk is fun because of privilaged people like this being everywhere providing jokes all day in every comment section

[@kinglyyasin5985]

Honestly if it wasnt for remote raid passes i would have stoped playing. I come from an rural area with no one else to play with therefore making it impossible to get any raids that are over Lvl 2

[@VQuinn-he9rv]

Poke genie exists. I spent three months in a country where the only player I knew was the cousin that I started into the game plus campfire did not even exist. It was still fine. Or don’t play the game I suppose. I used remote raids only when I was snowed in plus had Covid at the same time so I guess they have their place. But this game is not about that.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

Hosting is an option, but it can be hard to get the group together in a timely fashion. It would be nice if raids worked like Battles and were just available for a day or two instead of random 45 minute periods.

[@tensor9470]

Good video mate

[@vitunjones1920]

it was possible to take down toxitricity with only 2 people

[@PokeeSeanGO]

Damn, I didn’t see that. I’ll look it up.

[@jeremystewart1022]

Just wait till tera raids come to the game

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I’m not sure GO could handle it 😂

[@LordGallvion]

It would be lame as hell if people could just plow through max battles with level 50 pokemon they caught previously. Everyone would be complaining the feature is pointless, it's too easy. You have to prepare for raids as a new player too, or shell out 5.25 for 3 raids, or 1$-1.95 if you didn't save pokecoins from gyms. Anyways, you're completely missing the function of max battles altogether. If you or anyone else, including new players, intend to raise your pokemons level from 50-60, you will need a lot more XL candies. Max battles serve one function, collect species you want candy for with as minimal investment as possible through max battles, legendaries included. Once you've gotten enough, 8-20 ect, drop those legendaries into power spots so people doing battles on them can generate candy for you. Gym raids require that you invest into multiples of the same pokemon, like a full 5-6 team of 1 species to be optimal. That isn't even debatable, to show off soloing 5 star raids or carry a friend duo with ease. Max battles just require you to have 2 tanks, and 1 damage counter, that's it. And that's really only for challenging max battles, candy farming you bring 1 damage dealer and any legendary you intend to farm without even powering it up for the sole purpose of parking it on the power spot. Drop a maximum of 20 legendaries into power spots at once, be patient, you'll see exactly what I mean. At some point sooner than later, they will unlock the greyed out XL collect function rather than the regular candy collect function when your pokemon return, and you will be gaining 5XL candies for that legendary. Which you will absolutely need for the Massive investment for lvl 60 pokemon. You can easily achieve more than 20 raids a day, but doing more than 20 max battles is inefficient for candy, it requires you to pull pokemon out of power spots that may have collected nothing. Max battles also have a gamba mechanic, as more legendaries are released, having at least 1 gigantamax pokemon on a power spot will have the chance to spawn that dynamax legendary either as a rare spawn, or as a feature of a particular event. In any case. You are not going to be dropping your max battle attackers into power spots, you won't be able to raid with them, or do grunts with them if they are parked. They will also fuel XL candy for you, as you're not exactly required to fully invest in every single max battle legendary. Just the minimum attack and defense counters. Like I said earlier, you only need 2 tanks and 1 counter to take the harder shit down. So in many cases, you'll have zero incentive to power them up at all. Iv got 1 powered up gigantamax toxicitry, charizard, venusaur. I don't need battle ready copies of these, since, thr first two slots will ALWAYS be taken by tanks. I encourage you to think about all of this a little harder instead of being salty.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I agree with everything you said 😂 I came across too negative in this video. I like the system and think the game would have been more interesting from the start if this was how it was built.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

My intent was just to lay out how I think this system will replace raids as the de facto way to get rare and desirable Pokémon. I forgot I to even mention leaving Pokémon at power spots and how that furthers the “get out there” philosophy. And I hope level 60 just doesn’t happen, honestly. Taking a Pokémon to 50 and maxing the moves is already enough.

[@LordGallvion]

@@PokeeSeanGO it's not even a big deal at all, it's more of a priority now than ever to have level 3 megas of all typings to get enormous amounts of XL candies during event spawns. Stardust investments into max battles will eventually by the majority of players be offset by Gigantamax raids that pump out 25k-37k stardust for f2p non star piece players, and 37k per raid for paying players On that note, max battles will never have shadow Pokemon, and Shadow pokemon will replace the majority of Gym raid pokemon. There's also terastilization pokemon that should be featured somewhat soon, more than likely within the max battle nodes. Tera pokemon will actually replace all the current non tera pokemon for PVP formats. Maybe they will feature Tera in Gyms but i doubt it. Max battles are not replacing gym raids.

[@gellyzer0949]

Why did Michael lied in our faces about location data tho 😂??? oh and for dynamax legendaries if I already have a hundo or decent shiny already than I’m just gonna completely ignore it lol not gonna fall into the trap can’t believe they actually want people to rebuild all these Pokemon again no thanks 😅

[@PokeeSeanGO]

Yeah, established players really don't need to touch them, unless they want the Pokedex entries for Gmax. Until they start releasing new Pokemon exclusively through the Max system...

[@ulrikruby]

To me it’s just another free raid every day. Why not just take advantage of more free stuff. If you have the time.

[@revaaron]

I've been playing every day since July 10th, 2016 and I've never spent a penny on the game. Free ply for life! (unless I go to an actual go fest).

[@PokeeSeanGO]

Power to you! I think it’s a more interesting challenge to be free to play.

[@dannynajera5027]

They will keep both raids and max. Why not?

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I agree both will stay, but I think more valuable Pokémon will be available through Max and less through raids.

[@KINGCJ_TV]

I'ma just stop playing

[@PokeeSeanGO]

Valid.

[@mathparizotto]

Disagree, they didn't make mistakes (i don't think). Think about VGC, you can do everything in the game. People don't have that much time nowadays. Dynamx and shadow raids should be doable remotely as well (and Niantic will sell even more). Just let us play the game, get stuff, be happy.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I think they see them as mistakes, or at least short term thinking when the decisions were made. They need retention just as much as they need profits, and if content is too easy to blow through (like cheap remote raids), then people will “finish” their collections and stop playing. Unless they move to PvP, which seems to be a mess and not played by the majority.

[@TreFKennedy]

4:18 unless or until D/G-Max battles can be remoted, i REFUSE to play that system , remote raids was the future of Pokémon go and Nerfantic is spiteful towards the remote raids was community

[@basillah7650]

You can remote anything with spoofing just use a spoof you pay for or you risk getting detected and banned.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

You’ll save money, so it’s a win. 🤷🏻

[@TreFKennedy]

@@PokeeSeanGO i respect your perspective, I’m a spend to win player 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

[@PokeeSeanGO]

Fair enough! Certainly more efficient to spend the cash - save time instead.

[@camroger3457]

GMAX and DMAX function is limited. The game is not built around the max system so it doesn't get used that much. Unless they do more with it. It's going to be another forgettable feature.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

Time will tell. I think engagement will increase over time as new players invest into it because they want the legendaries.

[@claytonmeeks6865]

I would love more stuff like this please and thanks

[@plushduke274]

Why so frustrated for free stuff? Its a for fun game... not a grindfest. So what they get a free legendary/day? Good luck getting a hundo or a shundo legendary without spending money, or getting a legendary pokemon lvl 50...

[@anonsidious358]

The real PvP in Pokemon go is against the self. Managing FOMO.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

Wisdom.

[@bobw21]

great video, finally realized the slap in face of what I am facing going forward. They don't care about the original players.

[@ulrikruby]

I personally much prefer the battle system of max battles, so I would be fine with them becoming a bigger part of the game. My only issue with that, is that they don’t include many max particles in the boxes you can buy. Currently three max battles (800 particles per battle) would cost 425 pokécoins, while three raid battles would cost 250. But I never buy raid passes that expensive (83.33 per pass), since you can save up pokécoins and buy big boxes with lots of raid passes at better prices (54 per pass). They need to do this for max particles too, if they want low spending and F2P players to actually spend pokécoins on dynamax battles, because currently they are just too expensive for me to want to buy max particles. If I knew people had max particles in their bag, it would also make it more likely that I would buy the event ticket for a Gigantamax raid day. Currently I wouldn’t, because you can only use the bonuses if enough people are willing to do more max raids. For the Gigantamax Lapras day, I advised everyone I talked to, not to buy the ticket, since we would need a lot of players to buy it before it would actually be useful. And when we had taken three Gigantamax raids that day, most people wanted to do more until they realized they couldn’t. There weren’t enough people willing to pay for more particles, to actually defeat another raid. But if I could buy max particles in bulk, and for a better price, I would definitely do more of these raids.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

I had the exact same experience for Lapras Gmax. I bought every raid day ticket in 2024, and always blew through the passes. But because of the group sized required for Lapras, I knew it would be a waste. I think the price hike is how Pokémon GO is bringing inflation to the game. They probably see raids as too affordable. Legendary Pokémon devalue non-legendary, so they’re trying to swing the balance.

[@basillah7650]

It's killing the game not fixing it even worse than remote nerf all peoples past pokemon are useless only people that are going to be left playing if you can call it that are spoofers they are the ones that benefit from not being able to do remote.

[@PokeeSeanGO]

It will be interesting to see how it all plays out. New players will replace any that leave, so the retention rate will determine the direction they keep going in.