Are Button Lock Knives Safe? (Results really surprised me!)

The knives that passed..
Civivi Qubit amzn.to/42XOlG3
Civivi Altus (Aluminum)
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Civivi Elementum 2 amzn.to/3HVU3zR
Civivi Cogent
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CJRB Pryrite amzn.to/44QivwA
CJRB Ekko amzn.to/42AnnUC
CJRB Pyrite (Sheepsfoot) amzn.to/3NYEmvO
Vosteed Racoon amzn.to/42py8JK
Hogue Deka
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[@SussexEDC]

This is a really interesting video and only someone with such a large, varied collection can carry out these tests for us. So, thank you for that. I got my first button lock this week, a CJRB Pyrite and I'm very impressed with it all round. I'm even happier after watching this video.

[@Exane22]

Thanks for running these knives through the test! I was originally concerned with these failures and then realized i probably wouldn't be using any of these in a manor that would cause that type of failure. It is nice to know the limitations though, just in case. Thunderbird is still on my BIN list when it comes back in stock.

[@gaberoo9099]

very valuable test. Thanks for that. in real world use, the only conceivable situation where I might encounter this is when cutting up cardboard boxes while unsticking the blade from a cardboard cut. This has not yet happened to me, but I'm glad I saw this test and the explanation for the solidity of the CJRB mechanism of its button locks.

[@spyderg6509]

I noticed the smaller knives seem to pass as the longer knives may be a potential failure. The lock area is coned on Civivi cjrb is a square which is much better they need to make all button locks like cjrb IMO I know civi knives would have a failure on a couple knives but I do want to get that up dated Racoon. I knew the Thunder bird would have this problem I passed on it. Great vid 💯

[@jordanbruno4610]

Just got a pyrite and it's hands down the most solid knife I've ever had. It is my first button lock and Im very impressed.

[@SussexEDC]

Same here. It arrived this week and it's my first button lock and I've been incredibly impressed with all aspects of it. A great knife.

[@SimonRiley115]

Sold mine, it had detent lash after a week

[@Sludgecaked]

​@@SimonRiley115 The Pyrite does not have a detent ball or hole.

[@SimonRiley115]

@Sludgecaked Yeah I know, the plunge lock acts as the detent, or is supposed to when working properly. There is a small knotch in the blade for open and closed position. Both are really shallow for most plunge lock designs which is probably the reason for these issues. The Thunderbird has a Trek lock that's similar to a plunge lock design but goes deeper through the blade providing more contact area, only downfall is its a 2 piece design resulting in the button itself unscrewing from the shaft then you lose everything(which is why they give you 3 extras in the box lol). Plunge locks in general are ok but probably my least favorite, you have to keep those little slots on the blade clean for crisp action. The ProTech Malibu and similar aren't too bad but the Half Face Blades button lock design is amazing, Spyderco Smock button lock is as well but that's actually a compression lock, and the Brown Lock could be awesome but I've heard of all kinds of issues with them as far as execution (mostly lock rock and lock failures) which is a shame for what they cost.

[@richardkev3077]

I had a standard Pyrite with steel scales. It was smooth and worked very well, but the knife wasn’t quite right. Then I tried a Pyrite with titanium scales. It was a little lighter, but more importantly, it shifted rhe knife balance a little toward the blade. It feels much better deploying and using and, and it is a little lighter in the pocket. It made a much bigger difference than I expected.

[@butchbilbrey7871]

Thanks for the test, I have had a couple of Pyrite's and I absolutely love them CJRB nailed it with these knives. I also have a Civivi Cogent and I have never had a problem with any of these knives, but I have had my axis lock Benchmade Bugout to fail which is surprising. Thanks again and God Bless.

[@kwongyeang]

This was a much needed test to show everyone. I've found all my CIVIVI buttonlocks to be excellent. I had problems with 2022 Kizer buttonlocks failing with a spinewhack. The worst was the Begleiter XL.The lockup was an angled surface on the button side against an angled surface on the blade. It would just slide out under pressure. On inspection, the lockup looked like it had been hand-tuned and incorrectly ground with too much angle at the factory. I'm working out how to fix it -- I'm using a Dremel with diamond tips to very slightly reprofile the contact angles, without completely destroying the lock. Theres not much material to work with. Good luck to me. I'm too stubborn to go for a warranty return.

[@Tyler-mx5kt]

Had a vosteed corgi that would just half lock open. Unacceptable for an edc knife

[@2371Anita]

So glad it didn't fail!

[@IGmeanwell]

Have the newer version of the Raccoon and had it for a month. Tried the lock failure whack and it’s been solid. No complaints here.

[@TheAdequateMedia]

I feel like yes, most of them are fairly safe for normie uses. Also, with regards to spine work testing, I feel like a lot of people don’t take into account the type of material they’re whacking.

[@maxlvledc]

truth, I hit it on the wood table for this one.

[@TheAdequateMedia]

@@maxlvledc yeah when i was testing my kizers (they'd sent them so i was pretty rough) i eventually figured out that object being struck plays huge role. if it's got no give it's just going to rattle that crap outta the knife's moving bits, 98% of spine wack tests fail to take this into account. when the youtuber I DID A THING made a video where he makes a spring powered kicking exo skelton... for his right leg.. oh and he welded an axe head to it. you can see the pain in his soul when he kicks a pretty large tree and it just instantly sticks, arresting 100% of the momentum.

[@333chrispena]

I've only ever had one knife fail and it was a button lock. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@maxlvledc]

I had some surprising failures..and a few I was sure would fail and didn't.

[@AtafalWonder]

Dom, I bought the Raccoon in crossbar config, because of what I heard in reviews. Yours is the first I've seen pass the test and now I'm reconsidering the button lock.

[@maxlvledc]

The first ones all failed..they fixed it then re-released it.

[@TheBeater2382]

Had no problem with my racoon. Great slicing knife. Informative content

[@jhnd3082]

You are doing your best not to damage the table... most of my button locks fail and am glad that i use flipper tab button locks. The situations are not common but with my job they are...

[@enriquescott2983]

I hope they fix the grinder that Grind is on my wish list for next month please keep us posted before I make any purchases😊 thank you

[@ben9and1-3rd]

I never thought to try this on any of my knives but it seems like a good idea. 👍🍻

[@enriquescott2983]

And yes it was very useful I always enjoy your reviews again thank you thank you😊🎉😊

[@isthebeeflol]

Only button lock i had fail was a cormorant same design as thunderbird. It came with terrible lockstick and The button ended up breaking after a few to taps replaced and is perfectly fine now.

[@micgalovic]

Good video, thank you for making it

[@rognuald9007]

I have a CRJB Pyrite, same set up as the one in the video. I haven't tested it for lockup failure, but it has popped open easily when i dropped it on the desk where i was working. Its opened several more times when i intentionally dropped it from heights under a foot. I can also open it by flipping my hand downward. I like it a lot but im wary of it.

[@maxlvledc]

Return it...that doesn't seam right.

[@craven1927]

I just bought a Civivi Altus and after just one day the button lock gets stuck in the depressed position, preventing the blade from locking either open or closed. A hard tap against the frame will usually be enough to knock it loose, but it continues to stick every time it is depressed. I like the knife, and when it does lock it seems pretty sturdy, but I should not be having this issue with a brand new knife after just one day.

[@silvursurpent1966]

Came here with a CIVIVI Qubit being shipped to me currently. Glad you gave it more scrutiny. Great Vid. Easy to watch. Your audio is clear. Testing Negatives: Yes, you need to build a Knife-Testing-"Jig" to test (a knife/)knives for comparison. (Bad) Variations which you seem to be introducing: [Hitting different parts (wood has different densities in the same piece) of the Table; you also have non wood materials which you may accidently hit |Knife angles at hit (roll, tilt, and yaw), is different |Speed you are swinging the knife| Your hand, arm, muscles, etc: are not the same each swing]. A jig would remove these; you hit a button or pull a string and the Jig hits the same spot, angle, rigidity, etc every swing. For general purposes, you nailed it. Similar to what you already mentioned, this test on a knife is like saying a range of handguns are considered unsafe if the mag releases when you pistol-whip a person. You know, the ole' pistol-whip test.

[@spiritbender639]

6:18 .25x speed, what’s going on with the button lock there? Looks like it is being depressed half way before the test.

[@jnasty6669]

Andddd he just lost all credibility for me lol

[@hunterglaspell]

A good button lock can be one of the strongest on the market. But much like a bad lockback, some loose tolerances can make a really strong lock very weak. An example of a overbuilt button lock would be the Gerber 06 auto. The plunge lock on that thing is massive.

[@MrMre11878]

Yes I agree, after disassembly the wall thickness of that plunge lock is insane. I wish they made all button locks the same way, they would be way more reliable and tough as nails.

[@davidd9727]

Why did you partially disengage the lock before the test at 6:18?

[@maxlvledc]

No idea, likely I repeated it a few times to make sure though

[@hugheffo]

Unfortunately in the UK, any knife that has a blade that you have to unlock with a button or catch to close, is illegal to carry in public. I have a multi tool that has a 3” locking blade, and if I was caught in public with it on my person, no matter I it’s in my pocket, or in a tool bag, I can be arrested and fined. Also FYI, I think you will have much better luck cutting things, if you turn the knife round and have the sharp side pointing down 😅😅😅

[@jasonh8043]

MW.. Hello from NJ (USA) . Please excuse my ignorance, but what is the reasoning for locking blades being illegal ? Also , I assume fixed blade knives are illegal ? Does blade length matter ? Thanks. or is "cheers" appropriate ?

[@hugheffo]

@@jasonh8043 As we have very small amounts of gun crime in the UK, due to the complete ban on guns, apart from the odd shotgun for farmers. The main weapon of choice for the young gangs is knives. The basic rule is you can only carry a penknife (knife that folds in the handle), with a blade length of no more than 3”, and it cannot lock open or open mechanically or with the force of gravity. No daggers no fixed blades, no lock knifes, no flick knives, no “zombie knives” (Rambo type ) Nothing with a serrated edge. If you are caught in possession of a knife. The maximum penalty is upto 4 years in prison, an unlimited fine, or both.

[@PC64292]

@hugheffo I haven't read up on it in a while but I seem to remember that the legislation around "zombie knives" got as far as any green knive or one that has anything to do with zombies i.e a knife with zombie killer writen on it. Unfortunately, our knife laws are stupid as who's going to use a £100 pocket knife as a weapon when you can go to poundland and get a kitchen knife for a quid. I personally have had a pocket knife on me every day for 20 years now and somehow never stabbed anyone (in anger.) It's just another case of blanket bans that don't actually stop criminals they just stop ordinary people.

[@JR-gp2zk]

I almost bought a Vosteed Corgi, but went with a Civivi elementum 2 instead. After seeing this, I am glad I did.

[@RandomGuy-qm3mg]

for Science! always a fun and educational video when you do these. Reminds me of watching my son's Cub Scout and Boy Scout troop doing all kinds of crazy shit with knives. They always were surprised when a adult told them to not try to split a log with a pocket knife and a hammer.

[@ALO-hi9uk]

I baton a lot with one of my linerlock knives and it has never failed even when i tried to test the lock

[@umakako]

fantastic video 👏

[@doktorkoka]

The most concern I have is not whacking the back of the knife or batoning, but the moment when you hit something with a reverse grip. Or make a heavy frontal thrust. My civivi button gives reliable vibes, but I can't stop worrying if I imagine a solid hit with it, will it hold or not.

[@stevelindsay3643]

It is a very crucial test, to say the least. Pocket knives in particular are used for everything one can think of on a daily basis. When it is a survival or a predicament where the pocket knife is all you have as a tool to work with that requires you to hit the back edge of the knife with perhaps a stick used as a hammer or something along those lines, you need that blade to stay locked. Who knows what situation may arise and you need to put your pocket knife under extreme conditions, you want to know it's safe and can handle a little abuse. Understanding, the weak point in the button lock will be useful when purchasing a knife. I hope the knife manufacturers will return to the drawing board and resolve this failure point in the button lock mechanism. I want to add. I can see plenty of situations where hitting the back edge to get through a tough material would be very handy. It is important the knife hold up to a strike on the back edge of the blade and not unlock.

[@schmant1417]

06:18 - did you just disengage the lock before smacking it down?

[@maxlvledc]

Hard to remember, but looking at that part again it did fail 2 other times without me pressing it.

[@tgonzalez1983]

I’m not hitting my knives against anything. I have hard use & fixed blades for that stuff. Still a good thing you did this for everyone to see

[@nobody.141]

If you want to make this test consistent , fix the knife with edge downward then grab some weight and drop it from a specific hight this way you will have minimum error

[@maxlvledc]

I was thinking of making a mechanism

[@nobody.141]

​​@@maxlvledc It will better than just smacking the knife on the table , great vid by the way

[@Mpafanai46]

Interesting video ❤

[@leksasdf]

I wish you had a few Kizers in there since they're in the same price range and some of theirs are considered solid, while a few like the Mad Tanto are known to have problems. Other than that, a really interesting video. Definitely on the fence about vosteed's locks now and interesting to see if they address this.

[@r6201sk]

Cormorant and Original are fine for example ..

[@leksasdf]

@@r6201sk I haven't had any problems with my begleiters either.

[@jimhewettjr3730]

Button locks wouldn't surprise me if they failed because every one I own looks like there is barely any engagement area with the blade tang. An actual surprise lock fail to me was my Medford Slim Midi (a frame lock) considering how much they cost. That said, I don't really consider spine whack lock fails to be a serious problem because in normal use the direction of force is towards the open position. I don't make a habit of purposely doing things to MAKE my knives fail so I'm personally not worried in the least.

[@spyderg6509]

Did you watch the video! Lol...that was his point not trying to fail these knives by whacking over and he wacked reset as you would normal usage then hit randomly as he said it may be some knives and some are solid. However a failure on a Medford slim lock bar is more possible if that lock bar isn't engaging completely with the lock face, it could just slide over and fail. However I get what your saying by just using the knife normally not as a pry tool or anything else. puncture and slicing 💯🤙🔥. P.s. I'm not trolling your comment if you took it that way 🙏

[@jimhewettjr3730]

@@spyderg6509 of course I watched the video, I watch all his vids. I brought up my Slim Midi to reinforce the point that any knife lock could fail when purposely subjected to forces outside of normal folding knife uses. Anything other than the cutting uses the folders are made for I'll use a fixed blade, axe, pry bar, multitool or screwdriver etc.

[@spyderg6509]

It was a rhetorical question Jim Jr. lol... Thanks for pointing out the obvious on knife usage. I 100% agree with ya though. Peace ✌️

[@jimhewettjr3730]

@@spyderg6509 maybe obvious to you, and I, but from what I've seen it's not obvious to everyone 😂

[@bettinanstevens9259]

The only real world time I had a lock on a knife fail wasn't because I was batoning it. It was when I was trying to puncture something by pushing the tip directly into it. Like trying to cut a truck tire off of a rim. This is a very dangerous kind of fail because it would fail while you have a full grip on the knife.

[@TopDog8762]

A button lock is just not as strong as a say a back lock, or a triad lock, etc. Its one of the weaker lock systems. But it should be sufficient for everyday tasks. However like with the raccoon (1st version), a person reported an injury when cutting up boxes. Just me personally I look at button lock knives as more fidget monsters than users. If I am going to carry a knife and expect some hard use, its going to be something like a Spyderco Back Lock.

[@kelnap2294]

Or a CRK SEBENZA or equivalent price range.

[@Met_MrxWrx]

If properly machined with good spring buttonlock would do it, but iike Axis/Clutch (or how they Name it) more

[@loringwilder6479]

U literally pressed the button before u tested it on the vosteed

[@maxlvledc]

Which one?

[@theroguetomato5362]

I smacked my Elementum II pretty hard and it failed. It's still my favorite EDC.

[@christophersalankey4313]

Vosteed having issues isn't surprising...as the setup used in their button lock mechanism (dubbed the Trek Lock) is different than the other standard button locks. I believe the design actually dates back to the Cormorant when Yue was ith Kizer.

[@nathanodle8039]

Great video as usual keep up the amazing content! I am in need of some assistance, and because you are the GOAT wen it comes to moding multi-tools I can't think of anyone else to turn to. I was in the process of modifying my new SOG powerpint, and I managed to somehow (like a dummy) loos not only one of the screws but the pivot that the screw went into as well. it is the screw and pivot that holds the blade, file, screwdriver, ect in the handle. Do you know of anyway I can get a new one for it? I really don't want to have to buy a whole new one just because I lost a stupid screw. Much appreciated Nathan. PS I talked to SOG and they said they no longer have replacement parts except pocket clips 😔

[@maxlvledc]

Hmm. What's the pivot diameter?

[@nathanodle8039]

It is a T8 head, 1/8 inch round, (sorry don't know the metric size) and it is 5/16 inch long barrel to the bottom of the screw head. If any of the measurements don't make sense let me know I'll try to explain. Thanks again, Nathan.

[@nathanodle8039]

@@maxlvledc also just a side note thank you so much for the quick responses and the help you are an amazing part of the community!!!

[@maxlvledc]

@@nathanodle8039 np!

[@Jasny311]

Just waiting for the ordered Ruike P801 Knife. Do you know this Knife? It has good reviews.

[@maxlvledc]

Yep, solid

[@enriquescott2983]

About the same test on We , Civivi and Sencut in future 😊

[@spyderg6509]

The Grind surprised me failing, same with Corgi

[@gway9226]

My cjrb frack in s90v/titanium locks up solid as a rock. Only button lock I have

[@ronstecher4345]

No problems with my Spartan Pallas. Only locks that have ever failed me were frame locks (Microtech/Strider/Sebenza), and cheap flea market lock-backs.

[@christopherphillips2708]

My civivi elementum non button fails this test miserably. Hopefully the button lock elementum will perform better.

[@xxxy9928]

check ur liner ...how much it close !!! ...and grind it if not enough !

[@meby3537]

I wonder how a manix 2 would do

[@maxlvledc]

Very very strong.

[@randomstuffman01]

Good video. No button lock for me. I use mostly lockback, occasionaly a shorter ( under 3 inch) liner lock. Thanks. toronto canada.

[@trexion3443]

BRO WHERE DO YOU GET THAT XL PYRITE???? I NEED THAT

[@maxlvledc]

Coming out soon. There were only a few of these.

[@trexion3443]

@@maxlvledc damn, i really can't wait for those to come out. Have you done a review on it yet?

[@leo-ub6nb]

I wish that, after each hit/whack, that you would show the locking mechanism (button and plunger), to see if there was any deviation of the lock itself and if the button/plunger didn’t “reset” or reseat itself back into the cutout, we can see how much of the plunger was still engaged. Hope that makes sense or that what I’m trying to express from my mind into words is clear 😂

[@Ray526]

That's why I like CRKT with AUTOLAWKS.

[@dansatermo3185]

🤣I have the same “idiot” scar!

[@stephenbrown9068]

if you use the tool correctly and not like a fixed blade most pocket knives have zero issues

[@doktorb3at]

I've heard that even the Protech Malibu fails this test.

[@Sludgecaked]

How many of these knives now have vertical blade play when opened? The blade makes contact with the button, so these type of wacks can dent it. A dented button would cause blade play.

[@desertratedc9596]

Huh... my spartan blades pallas just failed repeatedly... awell I use traditionals all the time and was trained on slips so I am a bit more careful then the average user I suppose. It is a limited edition Wicked grips version that I was considering to sell anyways but I think I will definitely proceed now with selling it.

[@desertratedc9596]

@Josh only one I have and I got it in a trade. Luckily I only paid a little less then normal price for current production pallas. Someone will probably happily pay extra for it being a very limited version.

[@desertratedc9596]

@Josh very valid reason for me not to buy knife from them I suppose. What I really wanted out of the trade was the ZT 0095bw with US starburst flag anodizing and I just considered the spartan a bonus being a USA made knife and button lock... but I tried carrying it and preferred my ZTs, Spyderco compression locks, and Benchmade Axis lock folders better.

[@desertratedc9596]

@Josh my top 5 knives are my ZT 0095bw and 0562ti, Spyderco PM2, Benchmade 940 and my Demko AD-20 S. All 5 are fantastic folders and they just perform so much better then the spartan in function and fun. I own a delica but it's mostly carried as a light weight sports shorts knife since I typically carry a old USA stockman of some flavor when wearing pants so no need for a light weight/duty knife.

[@TylerHaley]

one things ive seen is it fails when tapped near the lock itself not the tip

[@jonathanihnen6491]

My qubit, fails very easily. I did the test under the same parameters as you not saying it’s a bad knife I love mine still.

[@MrMre11878]

Now check the blade play from those wacks. Ive done this test and it deforms the button lock creating blade play.

[@davidcopeland5409]

Just ordered the corgi lol won’t be banging it 😂 might cut some labels off new clothes 😂😂😂

[@DeathCAPTsukinose]

Am I too Buck 110 to understand?

[@AudibleVisibIe]

So what's up with you clearly manipulating the lock on the thunderbird before spine wacking it? 6:18 Am I missing something here?

[@maxlvledc]

I was resetting it back into a locked position.

[@bon3y4rd]

Honestly as long as my knife doesn't fail while I'm actually doing daily knife things, it's good enough for me. If I dropped it and the lock failed then I'm not concerned because my hand would not be on the knife. I just can't see an actual scenario where someone is cutting boxes, cutting zip ties, rope, etc and then have that lock fail. Does anyone have an example where they were using the knife as an actual knife and had a button lock fail? If so, what exactly was the task you were doing when it failed?

[@bon3y4rd]

I have had frame locks fail before but that was due to a week opening were the lock didn't go in as much as it was supposed to.

[@gandalf5895]

I've had a couple of button locks and I've always found it strange that poeople treat them like unreliable--- until one day I took two of them apart and find out what was going on inside - on the first one, the locking bar was all messed up - mae out of mild steel and ver maliable. The other one tho had a lot of small chips - it was too hard and brittle, thus repeaded hits on the spine woud have it crack and cip like ceramic.

[@Eratzer]

that poor table...

[@theroguetomato5362]

Just for laughs, I have a $13 Mtech flipper button lock that's a piece of crap, but no matter what I do to it, it doesn't fail.

[@SteveCole73]

Not sure if you have seen Project Farm channel, but he develops excellent tests of all different products. If you want some ideas of creating tests, he might be some inspiration.

[@maxlvledc]

Of course! He is one of my must watch channels..but I don't have the time to do those types of tests.

[@Gman1024]

That thunderbird is a looker and really stands out from the bunch. Pyrite has built up momentum and is peaking interest for me. Especially the stone washed wharnie.

[@SimonRiley115]

Sold mine, the button falls out and the heat treat is super soft

[@Gman1024]

@@SimonRiley115, that's stinky, which one, the thunderbird or pyrite?

[@SimonRiley115]

@Gman1024 The Thunderbird. Sold my Pyrite too because it had detent lash after a week.

[@Gman1024]

@@SimonRiley115, wow, I hadn't researched and heard about these issues yet. What has replaced them as your faves?

[@SimonRiley115]

@Gman1024 I've had a bunch over the years but the ones that stayed in rotation so far is...Maxamet PM2, s90v Manix2, Microtech Anax, Buck Marksman and 112trx, Custom 110 drop point, Cold Steel AD15 and AirLite, s35vn Case trapper, ESEE Avispa, Rosecraft Swayback, and just ordered the Vosteed Grind to carry with my fixed blade (either Benchmade Leuku or ESEE Laser Strike). My favorite of all time by far though is my Half Face Blades Crow Folder, it's a full titanium integral button lock with sealed bearings.

[@paranoiia8]

I have very simple test for knifes: will you grab your knife with hand and hit wooden table with all your strength and not worry that it will cut your fingers? Yes? It's good knife for hard work(as it also test overall quality of knife eg side to side wobble etc after such hit. No? It's fancy knife that you can use to cut paper or use as finger fidget. Button lock will never pass that test for me. I will buy knife with button lock for collection purpose but it will never be my daily drive. Yeah I don't "stab" stuff with my knife but when time come to do it, I want to be sure that I don't cut my self doing it. Also Button lock are not safe in their own design as engagement surface for them is like super small compared to even linear lock and that surface is getting worn out with every open/close more than in any other knife. On new knife or on one that is barely used it can feel good but we can't deny that it will get lose over time as we can't skip physic and material wear.

[@Genesislights]

Any lock would fail if they don't have enough design and manufacturing margin.

[@dylancampbell9249]

Looks a lot like you faked some of the failures on the thunderbird

[@maxlvledc]

Sigh...I said it was inconclusive #1, and 2..it had 2 failures with no fault of mine after I touched the button..feel free to check yourself and let me know.

[@KungFuTweety1]

ZT's always fail this test btw!

[@enriquescott2983]

Say it isn't so say it isn't so because the Grind is on my wish list for next month😢😢😢

[@majorpowell10]

RIP your tabletop 😅

[@Jakoshdw]

I've never understood the purpose of a "spine wack test" for any folding knife. I've never understood what forces it's supposed to represent under reasonable use of a pocket knife. Battoning on a folder is not reasonable use of a folding knife nor is prying. 🤔 I appreciate you mentioning the proper technique of using a folder to split wood in an emergency... because hammering a folder through a log is just a good way to cause a failure in your tools on purpose. 😢 All that being said... I use my folding knives to primarily to perform draw cuts or push cuts. A pinch grip on the blade near the spine to do detailed cuts with the tip, cleaning under my nails, or using my thumb on the side of the blade as a depth stop to cut down a cardboard box with items in it. I've even sliced the occasional piece of food. I have a medium Countycomm Titanium EOD breacher bar I carry in my EDC for tasks not appropriate for a folder. It's a solid slab of Titanium ground into a roughly (not sharp) chisel point. Perfect for prying pallet nails out of polypropylene pallet jack wheels, prying open cardboard boxes with excessive adhesive, scraping stickers off flat surfaces... etc. Highly recommended for anyone who has ever been tempted to pry with their knife tip.

[@ScrubLordJenkins]

Ive had the exact same thoughts, i was hoping this video was going to cover the actual strength of the button lock. As in how much weight it can withstand, similar to the tests cold steel perform.

[@kittrainbow7]

Liner locks are the worst, usefull only where there is no space for other types, like on multitools. I have a scar by a liner lock, always avoided if possible. Frame locks are a little bit better, hand grip works like a secondary lock, simple and effective for light duty knives, Ilike them. Button locks are medium reliability for me. Back locks (better modern middle locks) are very good some of the best but proper lock geometries are a must, quality variations. Balisongs are good, if build properly with tough pivots, human errors do not count in cuts... not fault of the knife. Triad, scorpion and atlas by Cold Steel are the best proven by me. Sometimes there are also pleasant surprises like the leverage lock on the CRKT provoke karambit, very cool lock and it seems highly reliable. 🇮🇹

[@richardkut3976]

Nice test, thank you. I was surprised there was any failures. I'm going to put mine through a test with pork ribs. A page from Paul Harrel.

[@joeyoung1973]

My corgi broke

[@alittlebitofeverything6547]

can't you hit the button by accident?

[@elizabeththompson4424]

a good quality button lock will not fail unless you abuse it

[@Muscovy7]

Stay away from Vosteed, gotcha lol

[@joblessalex]

If any of these fail with the tiny little purse hit you're giving them, they shouldn't be for sale. Should require a good bap with a hammer. If not 5-10 really good hammer whacks.

[@erfanahmadzade2283]

Why no one test a folder like they would test a cold steel. If it was a cs you would thrash on it you would ran over it with a tank but these knives you just whack them on the spine a bit that honestly is not fair

[@maxlvledc]

Haha, no one is arguing with the triad

[@ollibo]

Cold Steel usually strong but they can't cut at all. So CS failed the main knife purpose

[@erfanahmadzade2283]

@@ollibo cs had a lot of knives I'm sure you can find a slicey one

[@unfi6798]

There will always be trade-offs in all brand. Facts of life.

[@user-wj9qb1me7m]

you hit like girl

[@SimonRiley115]

Not sure what you're trying to achieve here😂

[@ibsnipingyou]

Sounds like a design problem that vosteed needs to make sure is sorted.

[@Sophocles13]

I think resetting the lock is pretty disingenuous, real life usage isnt as simple as one tap and reset. And idk how you called the thunderbird repeatedly failing "inconclusive"

[@helterskelter156]

🤣 You hit it like a girl.

[@jymkym11]

Who are you getting paid by, when I slow down your video I can easily see you disengage the lock before you do the test. What a joke.

[@maxlvledc]

Soo..did you stop watching?? I explained at the beginning I need to reset the lock each time. AND I think I did tough the button once with the Thunderbird..but then it failed 2 additional times after I did it correctly.

[@matthewthompson9424]

​@Maxlvledc then why did you delete my comment detailing a reddit post on the same issue?

[@maxlvledc]

@@matthewthompson9424 no idea. If you were specifically targeting an individual vs the product that's likely why it would have been deleted

[@sinrik77]

It's obvious you have no idea about physics. a spine Wack test is designed too actually make the lock fail. And if you're worried about lock failure that much get a fixed blade. Folders are not meant to be beat on like that

[@blacklisted4885]

A button locked is just a liner lock in disguise isn't it

[@maxlvledc]

Not at all lol

[@SPARTANKNIFETEST]

Vosteed fail!!!

[@John_McDonnell_76]

Not buying a Vosteed

[@frenstcht]

Team up with epic KZbinr Project Farm. This has collaboration written all over it. Regardless, thanks for doing this video. Cheers! p.s. Your channel name is pronounced MAX-uhl-VLED-ick, just in case you were wondering. Glad I could clear that up for you. :-P

[@jimmyross1672]

LOL yeah i like the CIVIVI green one with aluminum handles lol thats one my favoiur i like the looks and style of that knife for sure