easy diy No Dig Border TREE RING

[@zerodegrekelvin2]

Hi, I just did a "no dig border tree ring" like you shown in the video, thank you very much for sharing the how to, I got the Vigoro edging from Home Depot same with the fast set post concrete mix, I did it for my little sister and she just loves it! I let her doing the easy part which is spraying the concrete with water 8-)

[@maxpatch67]

Glad you enjoyed the video and that you had great results! Have a great day! Hey, if you'd like to send finished pix of your border that you made, you can send them to me at [e-mail]. I'm gathering some together for my website. Here are some other great results made by others that have watched this video: www.timvogelaar.com/Easy-diy-no-dig-border.

[@ez6315]

If you don't mind me asking, how much was it for all the supplies needed

[@zerodegrekelvin2]

@@ez6315 If my memory serves me well, I got 2 bags of Quikrete Fence and Post fast setting about $8.50 bag of 30kg, 26 stone at $2 each, No dig Edger Vigoro at Home Depot for $38 for 60feet, because the shorter one was out-of-stock. To estimate the number of stone needed, you need to do a little math, take the radius of the circle, i.e. the center point to where you want the circle is, so circumference=2 x pi where pi can be 3.14 , measure the stone length, take circumference/stone-lenght you have approx amount of stone needed, I add extra one just for security. I also got extra long landscaping nails, I think I bought 10 about 0.90 each I think. Anyhow, thanks to @maxpatch67, stone edger can never be so easy and fun to do.

[@kyriecastiel7489]

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[@olivermaximo4149]

@Kyrie Castiel Instablaster ;)

[@daniellegodlove]

I have been so clueless about what to do with my rocks and the weeds at the edge of my flower bed, this morning this video came into my feed literally out of nowhere. Im so excited to do this. Seems so easy!! Thanks

[@maxpatch67]

I'm so happy you found this video. Make it plenty big and you won't ever regret making this!! Thanks for the comment, Danielle!!

[@Viking74256]

Hah…. Video came Out of nowhere?? Nope, technology is listening to you! Happens to me on my Google app all the time. Just talking about something and your phone “listens” to you. Next thing ya know an article or video pops up. So weird, but true.

[@r8alvar]

Well done Sir. I saved this video about 2 years ago but this time im finally going to do this this weekend. Cheers!

[@maxpatch67]

Fantastic!! I'm so glad to hear it. If you are able to get any finished pix that you can share, I'd love to put them on my website. You could mail them to [e-mail]. Here is what others have done: www.timvogelaar.com/Easy-diy-no-dig-border

[@M14SINAL0A]

Lol me 2

[@aminemelbouci3212]

This video saved my life and thousand of dollars. I had to edge my tree on a long distance as the roots were getting out and I had to hide. There was no way to dig and cut the roots I really didn’t know what to do for so long. Thanks for showing the way

[@maxpatch67]

Whoa....really?? I'm so glad you found this video. Thank you for letting me know that!! Did you already create the border?

[@chrislindsay3104]

This video was exactly what I needed. My tree is 20 years old and has uneven protruding roots so I had to put in a second level of stone edging to hide them. But your explanation gave me confidence thanks

[@maxpatch67]

Way to go! I'd love to see pix of your great work!! Chris, I'd love it if you'd be able to send me pix to my email [e-mail] then I could post them here: www.timvogelaar.com/Diy-no-dig-border-folder-of-galleries for others to see. Thank you for taking the time to leave this comment! Have a great day!

[@nickdallege4740]

Be very very careful not to cover the root flare or burry the surface roots too deeply. The trees grow roots like that for a reason. They need to breath.

[@lulumort]

I followed this process. The results were way better than anticipated. I wish I knew how to attach the picture. Thank you so much for this.

[@maxpatch67]

I'm so glad to here this!! If you can get a good photo of it, I'd love it if I could post it on my website. My email is [e-mail]. Thank you for your comment. Have a great day!!

[@dionnem4533]

FYI, Sam's club has it for a good price, especially for the length, but it's a seasonal item.

[@maxpatch67]

Thanks for the tip, Dionne! I hope you have a great day!! :)

[@irisrose4732]

I need to do this for the three smaller trees out back for both aesthetics and to hopefully stop my neighbor from mowing way too far into my property.

[@maxpatch67]

Sounds like a plan! Thanks for the comment, Iris Rose!

[@LindaIrwin7328]

Thank you so much for the great DIY. I think with help from my granddaughter we might tackle this next year. Have a blessed day. I subscribed and look forward to more ideas. I always like the videos that I do like. 😁👍

[@maxpatch67]

My pleasure, Linda. You have a blessed day too!

[@eclectic_songbird7435]

using a string tied to a can of marking spray paint, you can make a circle without eyeballing it. Measure the string from the trunk out to where you want the edging to be. the just walk around the tree

[@maxpatch67]

Genius idea! Thanks, Cynthia!!

[@mdarks4117]

Great vid! I actually decided to build a gravel bed along the walkway in front of my home, using the beige stones, 1/2 white marble & assorted plants. Tree rings coming soon for 3 trees, once my budget refreshes 😬

[@maxpatch67]

Thank you! I'd love to see your work after you finish. Some have sent me their pix and I post them on my website: www.timvogelaar.com/Diy-no-dig-border-folder-of-galleries Thanks for the comment and have a great day!!

[@goovitoo]

The problem now is cutting the grass...wouldn't it been a better idea to leave the quick Creek cement about 3 or 4 inches out level with the grass and use the inner circle for the pavers , so now you could run your lawn mower around the area with out a weed wacker....😊

[@maxpatch67]

That’s a great adaptation of this idea! You should try it!!👍

[@RichiesLilBitOfEverything]

Pretty great idea and looks easy to do. Thanks for sharing

[@maxpatch67]

My pleasure!!

[@danilincks5809]

Awesome tutorial! I’m going to try it! Quick question, would it be possible add a second layer of stone on top of the bottom one using the quick set cement?

[@maxpatch67]

To add another layer, use landscaping block adhesive. This works perfectly for this situation. Thanks for the compliment!! :)

[@nando2k289]

Excellent video tutorial, definitely going to try it out, but I had one concern. If I didn't want the black rubber ring and I attach it to the ground in reverse, to remove after the concrete cures, wouldn't that leave a visible concrete ring above the grass, the same height as the black rubber ring, that the pavers sit on?

[@maxpatch67]

Yes, if you don't have the black plastic edge there, then the cement edge would be there. Cement does dull pretty quickly over time so it would not stand out at all over time. It works quite well to make it this way when attaching the plastic edge to the ground in reverse to make it removable. To make this easier, use the plastic spikes that come in bags and cut them in half with some pruning snippers. This makes them easily removable with pulling up your plastic edge from the ground.

[@1BadRAMLimited]

Will this work if you have a slope around the tree? I can see how this works easily when u have a pretty level working area but what do u do on a slope

[@maxpatch67]

Good question, Eric. This technique will work perfectly with a slope.

[@Ur2ez4me81]

Great video! Thank you for sharing!

[@maxpatch67]

My pleasure, Ur2ez4me81. :)

[@rickysmith7168]

What if the area is not flat?

[@maxpatch67]

No problem. You can build this on a slope. Using the plastic edge as your guide, angle the cement the way you want so the angle of the landscaping blocks is not quite as steep as your slope. Please let me know if I can help you any more.

[@TristaSpencer]

This might be a simple or dumb question but are you just cutting the edging once you get the length you want? I noticed it is a 60ft kit you bought so just checkig

[@maxpatch67]

Yup, you got it right. Make it the size you want by cutting it. Where the two ends connect is a little tricky to line it up right so the curve looks like the rest of tree ring. I use two nails in a row on each end to get this secrured right to perfect the curved line. Let me know if I can help any more.

[@williamallbright1304]

Was there a weed barrier put down before the mulch?

[@maxpatch67]

Yes, I use a method that is the best possible and that is using cardboard. Here is an old video I made about this technique....turn the volume down since it has overly dramatic audio: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnq6dYOilqdprbs

[@CC-hz1qm]

Is there a way to make this work with just weed cloth and no paver blocks ??

[@maxpatch67]

No. That would be totally different and many people, including me, think landscaping fabric is a very bad idea. It creates many problems including the fact that it actually does not prevent weeds. Other border ideas are fine, but don't use landscaping fabric.

[@getmoorefit2124]

How do you determine how wide the tree ring should be

[@maxpatch67]

Its a mix of aesthetics and function. I just make them extra big so there's no chance roots or the large trunk will be a problem.

[@Jenna-zv6ve2sx4u]

can you tell me the measurements and how many stones you used? thanks

[@maxpatch67]

Really, you just need to look at your situation and come up with your own number for what you need. Every situation is a little different so I hate to give specific measurements and it not be right for your tree. each block is about one foot long so you can use that for reference.

[@yellow_sedai]

Omg thank you so much for this.

[@maxpatch67]

my pleasure, NaturalHead1 :)

[@joescamarone6420]

Great Tutorial ! Question, can the paver ring be build with out the plastic black ring?

[@maxpatch67]

Yes!! Sort of!! You can make the plastic edge easily removable right after the cement cures. You can attach it to the ground in reverse so you can remove the spikes easily. Also, you don't need to buy the strong metal ones and you can just use the wimpy plastic ones that come in a bag with the edging. You might want to buy an extra bag of plastic ones. What I have done is cut the plastic spikes in half(I use hand garden clippers) so its easy to pound them in and pull them out also. Just wait a day or so until the cement has cured before pulling out the spikes and border. It needs to be mild air, like in the 50's for the cement to cure properly, so right now might not be the right time to make this border. If you make it in summer, the cement cures within a couple hours so the curing goes real fast. Let me know if you need any more help.

[@gracieelias5930]

Love it thank you super easy

[@maxpatch67]

My pleaseure, Gracie! Have a great day!

[@bloubrown802]

what kind of grass is that, please… absolutely beautiful lawn

[@maxpatch67]

Tall Fescue Mix :)

[@TheGoldnDog]

I love this idea but what about the grass/weeds coming up from the mulch. Do we need a layer of tarp down?

[@maxpatch67]

Ryan, great question. I would NOT use any fabric. I used to and it created many problems over the years. Here is the technique I use and I highly recommend for you to use: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnq6dYOilqdprbs I hope this helps. I'm really glad you asked!! Have a good day, Ryan.

[@gomabtees9671]

Question: Instead of one layer of bricks can I go up one more row doing it the same way? Should I use adhesive to connect the two rolls or would the fast setting cement do the trick?

[@maxpatch67]

Ya, you should use landscaping block adhesive. Thanks for the great question, Gomab Tees.

[@sandeeprstyagi]

Can you please help with the total cost for this project?

[@maxpatch67]

The materials for the border will end up costing you about $6 per foot. That covers the blocks, bags of concrete mix, plastic edge, and extra metal spikes.

[@sandeeprstyagi]

Thank you !@@maxpatch67

[@michaelrock6452]

Is a circle the only shape that works here? is a square acceptable, or does it look goofy? i have property lines i am trying to respect and a square would be easier.

[@maxpatch67]

Hmmmm...great question.....honestly, I don't know the answer to that for sure, but if I were you I would picture it in my head and see if I like it first.

[@bane2256]

Great video, thanks

[@maxpatch67]

My pleasure, Bane.

[@blackstarblues9055]

I really like this. How do you remove the border as the tree grows and you need to change the size of the ring over the years?

[@maxpatch67]

This border is considered to be permanent, so build it large(like the example in the video) and it will never need replaced.

[@verazendejas2098]

Hi I loved your video of no dig border..would you have any knowledge or idea on laying pavers without all that digging?

[@maxpatch67]

I don't do multiple layers because it is not leveled and could cause problem and I don't think it looks as good....however some viewers have done it and it seems to have worked great for them using landscaping block adhesive between the layers. Anything else I can help you with?

[@mikefelice8367]

Would the concrete hold up to the freeze & thaw cycles of Western Pa. winters?I'm worried about the ground freezing & lifting & cracking the concrete base under the blocks.

[@maxpatch67]

Mike, this is an excellent question and one that I would be interested in knowing too if I lived up there. Here is what I know. On my older video of this technique, I had people from several years ago, testify as to how happy they were with this border after multiple winters and these people lived in New England, Chicago, and Canada. That being said, I don't have personal experience building them up there and I do understand your concern.

[@mattmorris6314]

@@maxpatch67 I'm in central Illinois and did this a month ago. Love it thus far! We'll see how it does through several season changes.

[@wendelleimers5539]

I live in NE Iowa, do you think the cement will hold up above ground with our cold winters. I really like the idea and want to try it on my four trees. Just not sure on the cold winters we have. Thanks!

[@maxpatch67]

Yes, I think it will. I have had several people make this border up in Canada and the northeast up in New England and they have been very pleased. I understand your apprehension, though. Let me know if I can help you any more.

[@wendelleimers5539]

@@maxpatch67 Thanks for your reply! Great to hear the tree rings hold up well with the cold weather in the winter. I plan to give my trees a new look!

[@maxpatch67]

Awesome. You won't regret it. I grew up in Newton, IA...what town are you in?

[@mariasramek1841]

I want to do this around a tree that is pretty big. I measured out quite a bit but still have some roots extending over what I measured. How far out should I go from the root ending? Thank you.

[@maxpatch67]

Maria, my suggestion is that if you go out 5 or 6 feet from the trunk and there are still roots out there further beyond that then for those far out roots that are exposed, get some topsoil(not the stuff in bags from the store) and shovel it onto the ground around the roots and rake it around to level it nicely. You can make this circle as big as you want, but for looks and practicality, maybe 6 feet out from the trunk is reasonable. What do you think? Maybe a little bigger than that?

[@wrightbrent73]

I had the same issue and cut the roots and removed them. This didn't affect the tree at all

[@seporajacobs6158]

I love your ideas but just wondering can you use any different kind of blocks/ rocks ???

[@maxpatch67]

Great question....yes use any block or rock that you like...I just love this landscaping block product so much and use it every time. :) Have a great day, Sepora!!

[@seporajacobs6158]

@@maxpatch67 Great.Lord Bless

[@1sotheary]

So how do you keep weeds and grass from growing through the mulch then? I didn't see you lay down any landscape fabric.

[@maxpatch67]

I do NOT use landscaping fabric. Don't use it. Here is the method I always use: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnq6dYOilqdprbs I hope this helps. Thanks for the question, 1sotheary!!

[@PopleBackyardFarm]

Nice job - We are going to be doing some borders for our gardens this year. - Ruthie

[@maxpatch67]

Sounds good, Ruthie. Send me some questions if needed. Have a good day!

[@dnasty9673]

What’s the point of the edger? Why not just do stone

[@maxpatch67]

The plastic edge creates the form for the concrete mix to sit in. Without it, the concrete is formless. Let me know if I can help you anymore, ok? Have a great day! ...wait, by 'edger' do you mean the whole borer? If that's what you are asking, this border solves a lot of problems for people that something like rocks offer that includes permanence, neatness, and great weed control.

[@dnasty9673]

@@maxpatch67 thank you

[@kristinpeace6266]

Do you have to wait long for the concrete to dry before putting mulch in?

[@maxpatch67]

Kristin, you could do it right away if you wanted to. Thanks for the question and have a good day!! :)

[@dchale1986]

What would you recommend using to also add a cap along the top of the border?

[@maxpatch67]

I sure think you could, C. Hale. There is no reason not to. Landscaping adhesive would work fine for this additional step. If you get yours finished and want to send me finished pix to share with others, please send them with email to [e-mail]. Thanks!

[@carolynhewett9512]

What did you do with grass still inside the border. How did you remove the grass. I like your idea but i am creating many new bedding areas from grass areas in my back yard! Ty!

[@maxpatch67]

Excellent question...and I have the perfect technique for you! This is by far the best method: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnq6dYOilqdprbs Let me know if you have any more questions, Ok? Thanks for the question/comment Carolyn!

[@ptmlinh]

Thank you for a very instructional video. Since there's no compacting of the dirt below and adding a base rock layer (which is a big kudo) like the traditional method, will we run into any long term issues with leveling if I were to use 3 layers of blocks instead of 1?

[@maxpatch67]

I would recommend a more traditional levelling technique for going higher along with interlocking blocks and I don't think this technique would even look that good being that tall, so I wouldn't do it if I were you.

[@jessemiller6290]

Can I do it without the edging? We initially sank the pavers last year so could I just fill that with the fast setting and lay them right on top?

[@maxpatch67]

First question. The Vigoro edging creates a curve and form for which the concrete to sit in an orderly manner. Some have said they reversed the edging and they love it because they could remove the plastic edging then. I'm not sure about your second question. I hope this helps. Have a great day, Jesse! ....hey, try that second question again if you want

[@jessemiller6290]

@@maxpatch67 so we sank the pavers down last year. In the sunken part, could I fill that with some quick setting? That would keep the quick setting in place instead of using the edging. I think it'll work. I guess we'll find out!

[@piwproductions9805]

Can you use this with a sloped ground?

[@maxpatch67]

Yes, slopes are no problem....you just have to fight the mulch being pulled down over time from water and gravity. I hope this helps, PIW. Have a great day!!

[@matthewreeves8738]

Hey man, where do you get the galvanized spikes? I didn't see it in description below? Good work by the way.

[@1BadRAMLimited]

Home depot lowes

[@maxpatch67]

Here you go Matthew: www.lowes.com/pd/Grip-Rite-8-in-x-3-8-in-Spike/3610434

[@pennychiu9446]

looks great!

[@maxpatch67]

Thank you, Penny!

[@v.d6809]

Can you moist the cement before laying the blocks for better adhesion?

[@maxpatch67]

No. Do not do this. This would ruin the bonding ability. This concrete mix is special and made to add water after it is in place.....and it just happens to be that it makes it much easier. :) Let me know if I can help you any more.

[@nolanbelsky7284]

Where can I get the metal edger... Lowe’s !?

[@maxpatch67]

This is a plastic no dig edge made by Vigoro. If you want to get it from Amazon, there is a link in the video description for it.

[@momlee664]

Can you add a second layer of blocks and add more dirt? The dirt and mulch around my tree in the front just blow away or wash down the yard to the side walk so the roots of the tree are showing.

[@maxpatch67]

You probably could, but I don't know if it would look that good and the difficulty is quite a bit higher using traditional mortar between the layers. A much better idea is to make it quite a bit bigger so there is plenty of room for root growth and keep it down to just one layer.

[@samfeldman1508]

I live in Zone 6/7 20902 so the frost line is about 36 inches. Will frost heave degrade this over several years?

[@maxpatch67]

Sam, this is an excellent question and one that I would be interested in knowing too if I lived up there. Here is what I know. On my older video of this technique, I had people from several years ago, testify as to how happy they were with this border after multiple winters and these people lived in New England, Chicago, and Canada. That being said, I don't have personal experience building them up there and I do understand your concern.

[@wjb111]

I’m in Michigan and just use lime stone instead of concrete. Works well.

[@henrimartin7135]

I love this have watch it over & over one problem I have my stones they are the scalloped type can’t afford to buy more will these work.

[@maxpatch67]

Those are kind of tall and narrow right? I can't figure out how that type would work with this. Hmmmmm....

[@stephenjones6361]

Can you do this next to concrete walkways?

[@maxpatch67]

Yes, I have built paths with this technique using 2'' of mix on the bottom, then adding flagstones, and then adding mix on top and brooming it out level before adding the mist to set it.

[@PackagingKing45242]

@@maxpatch67 Hello! would you happen to have pictures or a video of this? I am looking to do this along the walkway from the driveway to the front step. I also have a question, what would you recommend doing around beds that we have actually dug out trenches around beds to prevent grass growing??

[@UserName-sj8fg]

Concrete, really?

[@maxpatch67]

The cement provides four major functions in this border technique 1. Height(for looks) 2. Keeps the stones straight/aligned over time 3. Stability/strength 4. Weed barrier(the extra width is nearly impenetrable to aggressive weeds and grasses(Bermuda Grass) that we have here in Nashville.

[@RichardSparks-v1c]

Just to let you know, this video is still having an impact. I live in northern Illinois and just today installed a ring. (I mean, I finished like an hour ago!) Great results. I followed all of your directions, including using cardboard as a weed barrier. I've lived in this house for nearly 18 years and from the day I moved in wanted to do something with the sloppy area under the frontyard tree, but never knew just what to do. I came across your video about three weeks ago and thought, THAT'S what I want to do. I'm knocked out by the finished look. Thanks for the tips!

[@maxpatch67]

Richard, I'm so glad to hear this! Thank you for taking the time to leave this comment. If you wanted to, you could send me some pix to [e-mail]. I'll post them on my website www.timvogelaar.com/Diy-no-dig-border-folder-of-galleries. Anyway, WAY TO GO!! Your neighbors might be jealous of you, :) I'm so glad you found the perfect solution about what to do with your ground under your tree.

[@JasperJokerII]

Looks good but I just see myself years down the road saying, "why the hell did I use concrete?", when I'm trying to remove it because the roots are making it uneven.

[@maxpatch67]

A large tree nearby could do that, but bushes or small trees are not a problem. You might want to use a different border.

[@r8alvar]

To be fair if you get several years out of it it is a win

[@aminatadavis4183]

I watched your video last night and did it today. It came out very nice.. 😊 you very much 🙏🏽

[@maxpatch67]

I'm so glad to hear this good news, Aminata!! I'm so excited for you!! You don't have to, but if you wanted, you could send your pix to my email and I'll post them on my website. I bet it looks great in your yard! My email is [e-mail] and here is a link to projects others have done with this technique: www.timvogelaar.com/Easy-diy-no-dig-border. Have a great day, Aminata, and thank you for your comment!

[@jessicadianne9065]

This video is so well made! Very helpful! Thank you for taking the time to do this! I can’t wait to go get everything I need and make our tree ring!

[@maxpatch67]

Jessica, thank you for your kind words. I am also a middle school teacher, so I appreciate your compliment on the quality of this video. :) Thank you for taking the time to leave this comment, and I'll be anxiously awaiting to hear how your tree ring turned out!! Have a great day, Jessica!!

[@jessicadianne9065]

@@maxpatch67 the tree ring turned out perfect! I’m very happy with it! Thank you!

[@BattBenn]

:) I'm going to try this. Simple and to the point video. I'm happy I can attempt this myself and will not ask my dad to do it for me.

[@maxpatch67]

hahaha...I'm sure you can. If you finish it, I'd love for you to email me some photos of your finished work. I'd love to see your handiwork! Please send to [e-mail]. Have a nice day, Battista!

[@BattBenn]

@@maxpatch67 Sure, will do!

[@lilliehalumi8770]

I've been watching many videos, and a few showed how to get a perfect circle by tying a loose rope around the tree trunk down low and deciding on your circumference. Get a can of spray paint and hold the rope end and walk around the tree while spraying the paint to mark the area. You'll get a perfect circle.

[@maxpatch67]

Great tips, Lillie!! Thanks!!

[@ericyoung5982]

Whats the drawback of using regular quikrete as opposed to the fast setting quikrete? 40 bags of the fast setting version is quite expensive...Thanks

[@maxpatch67]

I'm really glad your asked this, @ericyoung5982!! This is the only type of concrete product that is specifically designed to work like this. ALL other concrete products require traditioinal mixing. Fast-setting is specifically designed to just add water to it and it sets up like magic. So, its totally worth the money when you consider the savings in labor. If you haven't done it before you wouldn't know, but it takes a LOT of effort to mix and pour concrete. I hope this helps. Have a good day!

[@robstone5010]

Thinking about doing this project this weekend and doing the edging in reverse so I can pull it up after. Do you have a link for the 8 inch galvanized spikes at home depot?

[@maxpatch67]

You have a great idea and I have done this recently. There might be a bag of plastic spikes that come with your plastic edging that you can use for this reverse/removable method. To make it even easier, use some strong scissors or clippers and snip these plastic spikes in half. Also, you can buy bags of these spikes. The neat thing about this method is that you can reuse a shorter piece of plastic edging over and over and also resuse the spikes to it can save you money. You know what? I just looked at the Home Depot website and they only have the 8" ones in bulk/box, so I'm going to post a link here for the cheaper plastic ones for you that you should use after you snip them in half: www.homedepot.com/p/ProFlex-8-in-Nylon-Spiral-Landscape-Anchoring-Spikes-24-Per-Pack-1989N-24C/205966606 I hope this helps, @robstone5010.

[@speechiegal5099]

Thank you for this great video! I’m going to try this next week during my time off!!

[@maxpatch67]

Awesome! I love it!!👍

[@kdubb859]

How many bags of concrete per rock? Trying to estimate how many bags of concrete I would need.

[@maxpatch67]

One bag usually lasts about 5 linear feet. I like to get a little extra so I don't run out, though. Its no fun to have to go back and get more. I'd reather return some exra even though its heavy. I hope this helps.

[@pftburchell5197]

I want to do this around trees in a yard that has a slope. Do you think anything needs to be altered?

[@maxpatch67]

Nope. Go for it. It should be perfect on a slope. When you level off the concrete with the plastic edge, just level it so it matches the slope of the ground and it will look and work great. Thanks for the question!

[@tifflet818]

Could you add a second layer to make it taller? Just put more concrete on top or would you do it? Thanks!

[@maxpatch67]

You would need to use either landscaping block adhesive or mix up some traditional mortar. I have not done it because I would not like the way it looks as much.

[@alecc89]

Thanks for your advice! Appreciate you are taking the time to show us with so much detail. I have a question, I’m new into landscaping/gardening. I have a small tree in the middle of a 6ftby6ft area, mostly is surrounded by grass, I’m planning on doing something like this, smaller of course, but should I get rid off the grass and weeds around the tree, prep the ground with fabric and then toss the mulch on top or will it be ok just to cover whatever grass and weeds with mulch? I’m just worried the grass/weeds will start to come up through the mulch bed? Again thank you!

[@maxpatch67]

Great question. I would NOT use landscaping fabric.....horrible product. Here is what I do highly recommend!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnq6dYOilqdprbs I hope this helps!!

[@alecc89]

@@maxpatch67 thank you! Will do it this weekend :)

[@maxpatch67]

Awesome!! I'd love so see some pix how it turns out!!

[@austinitel.2972]

Hi there, if I pour concrete, will it be reversible in future if i decide to remove the concrete?

[@maxpatch67]

No. Only build this border if you are sure of what you want for a very long time. It's considered permanent. You would have to use a sledgehammer to bust it up.

[@thomasschoon9451]

putting the concrete and blocks over the grass ,over time does it sink?

[@maxpatch67]

Thanks for asking. It stays just the same as you build it- on top of the ground.

[@dnasty9673]

Can you do the border on the inside and rocks on the outside ?

[@maxpatch67]

You will want the plastic edge on the outside for sure. It creates the perfect, finished, smooth edge that gives a very nice look. The rough side should be inside covered with mulch.

[@BruceWSims]

I have watched a few of these videos and am still looking for the best way to handled undulations up to 6". I know I could just follow the contours of the soil but I think it looks "cleaner" for the top of the ring to cut a flat plane. Any thoughts or opinions would be warmly appreciated.

[@maxpatch67]

Yes. What I would do if I were you is to just buy some topsoil that you can rake out to level fill in and level out your area. When you pound your stakes in, don't beat them into that soft dirt so the plastic edge stays level where you want it. After dumping in your concrete and adding the water, your effort will pay off and it will set up level like you wanted. Let me know if I can help you any more.

[@BruceWSims]

@maxpatch67 Excellent...thanks so much !!!!

[@josiehollerbach4429]

Wow this is exactly what I want to do thank you for sharing🥰

[@maxpatch67]

My pleasure, josie!!

[@grace2garden403]

THis video is right on time. I had laid out fabric around the trees that I wanted to outline. this will save so much time and money, as well as labor. Thanks for sharing. Your videos are awesome.

[@maxpatch67]

Willie Dora, you are so complimentary....thank you for taking the time to leave this comment. :)

[@kizo9181]

THANK YOU that was a great video ! Easy to follow, I KNOW I can do this. I plan to build a nice reading area under a tree for my Mom so she can enjoy the shade. I'm going to add pavers on outside of the ring to create a shady reading nook under the tree.

[@darktoadone5068]

How much did you spend on materials?

[@maxpatch67]

The current price of this border is around $5.50-$6.00 oer foot....it seems like a lot compared to just buying one of the products by itself, but when you combine these products and creat this border considering the finished look and the long lasting nature of it, I think its a great value.

[@MobBarley-l7e]

Did you dig the grass out right by the tree stump and around? Or did you just use round up and then mulch?

[@maxpatch67]

This little tree didn't have any grass right around it, but if it did, yes, I would have removed it or used my mulching technique with cardboard over it. The cardboard works really good, but not some much right on the edges....kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnq6dYOilqdprbs I hope this helps.

[@MobBarley-l7e]

@@maxpatch67 what tool would you use to dig up the grass around tree stump?

[@mml1224]

nvr saw that before, ho wis it holding up years after? any reason y u didn't add a sand base first???then the mix above it? u laid the concrete mix right over grass...wow

[@maxpatch67]

Ya, believe it or not, this technique works great as a tree ring....just build it out far enough to minimize movement from the tree trunk and roots...it will work perfectly.

[@mml1224]

@@maxpatch67 how many years has your rings been in tact, also, no lime added to concrete mix for added flexibility? i think i am gng to add the borders only to help in teh begining then remove the plastic borders rite?

[@mml1224]

@@maxpatch67 quick ques4u, is it ok to remove the plastic borders afterwards once the concrete sets? i dont want to see the plastic borders , it shows bc my grass is very short, and it hides some of the stones. thank you.

[@micheleborowski7828]

What kind of pavers are these?

[@maxpatch67]

Here is the link to them from Lowes. Home Depot also has them. www.lowes.com/pd/Flagstone-Ashland-Retaining-Wall-Block-Common-4-in-x-11-in-Actual-4-in-x-11-2-in/4686351

[@mandyjaye8856]

So, I've never done this before and moved into a house that desperately needs this on several trees. How do I make sure I'm getting the correct amount of blocks? And how do I make sure when doing the circle that all blocks will fit without a gap? Please and thank you 💞

[@maxpatch67]

Mandy, figure that for each foot of border, you need one block and then just add them up. Just get 3 or 4 extra because its no fun being short and not able to get the work done. That gap is a challenge so you can take care of that by customizing how the last few fit in there by leaving little gaps in them to finish right or you can use a hammer, masonry chisel, and hand and eye protection and just hammer away at one block to make it fit in perfectly at the end with all the spaces tight together. Its not real difficult and kind of fun to hammer away at a cement block...you choose, but use eye and hand protection. I hope this helps.

[@AXi220]

can you tell me the link to home depot or lowes for the kind of concrete you use?_ thanks

[@maxpatch67]

www.lowes.com/pd/QUIKRETE-50-lb-Fast-Setting-Concrete-Mix/3006121 www.homedepot.com/p/SAKRETE-50-lb-Fast-Set-Concrete-Mix-65305535/100350261

[@AXi220]

@@maxpatch67 thank you, by the way can this be use as level the ground just a little bit higher? thanks

[@maxpatch67]

It would change the nature of this border quite a bit. The height provides a scupltural element to your landscaping as well as keepin weeds from easily growing over the top....and you'd be digging into the ground to get the cement and blocks lower so it would no longer be a no-dig border technique. So you can,, but its a lot more work and it really changes the qualities of the border in looks and function.

[@Dalaila77]

I’m so glad I came across your video! This is the easiest and no confusion or frustration! Thank you so much for sharing your videos! You will be my go to landscape videos from now on! I’m a new gardener I guess you can say. I do have a question. How do I get rid of the grass inside the edging under the tree? Ty sir!

[@maxpatch67]

My pleasure, Aquarius Water!! To get rid of the grass inside the border, just use the technique in this video right here. Its the very best best method and works perfectly: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnq6dYOilqdprbs Thank you for your comment and have a good day!

[@stuartbernstein4683]

What type and color of landscaping block from Lowe’s? How many did you need for project?

[@maxpatch67]

I can't remember how many this one used but they are almost a foot long each so that might help you estimate. Here is a link to one of the two colors available:www.lowes.com/pd/Flagstone-Allegheny-Retaining-Wall-Block-Common-4-in-x-11-in-Actual-4-in-x-11-2-in/4686343

[@samnutkins3402]

Is there any reasons to leave the plastic edging in place after the concrete has dried? Seems the concrete and pavers would provide enough stability and weed barrier on their own.

[@maxpatch67]

I recently tried the plastic edging in reverse and making it removable and it works perfect. You may want to try it this way. Just wait a few hours or so for the cecment to cure up and then pull out the border and stakes(they can be cut in half so they aren't so long). Thanks for the question and have a great day!!

[@scottfilla6579]

Thanks sooooooo much for this! It worked perfectly and supply’s were easy to get. Thanks man!!!

[@maxpatch67]

No way, really? You are so welcome, StalfosZ87!! Hey, if you have some pix, I'd love to see how it looks and then put them on my website: www.timvogelaar.com/Easy-diy-no-dig-border. If you'd like, you can send them to [e-mail]. Have a great day and thanks for taking the time to leave this comment!!

[@animalactions5111]

Great video. What is the approximate total cost of the ring the same size that you made? Thanks

[@maxpatch67]

Thank you! Your cost will be about $6.50 per foot of border. That seems like a lot until you consider the value it adds to your property. Then it seems like a bargain.😂 Have a great day!

[@leslieterry5788]

Thanks for the tips I’m doing mines this weekend

[@mslametrad]

Show pics and I’m doing mine this weekend as well. I wonder how many brick will be needed.

[@maxpatch67]

Wonderful!! ...and please send me pix to use on my website: www.timvogelaar.com/Easy-diy-no-dig-border If you'd like to, you can send them to [e-mail]

[@Reddylion]

Nice

[@kimkats]

Excellent idea! Gonna try this - not sure where to find the metal spikes tho?

[@maxpatch67]

www.lowes.com/pd/Grip-Rite-8-in-x-3-8-in-Spike/3610434 Please let me know if I can help you any more. Let me know what you think when you're finished! Have a great day, @kimkats.

[@judyl.761]

What should I do if I have a couple of big tree roots that have surfaced so that it makes it difficult to put a border?

[@maxpatch67]

The border in this video is pretty big. Can you make yours larger than where your roots are? If not, then that's a problem.

[@makaylahsade3962]

24 year old studying to give my moms front yard a make over. Thanks for the easy tutorials!!!

[@maxpatch67]

Great idea, Makaylah. This border lasts and really boosts curb appeal forever so its a good choice!! Have a great day!!

[@trinhk]

Thank you for the great tutorial. I love the fact that there’s no digging involved. What happens when the block off brick doesn’t fit on the exact circle of the bed? Also is it possible to use the same method for a second level wall? Thanks!

[@maxpatch67]

You have two options for the odd sized gap. One is to adjust the border size so it fit perfectly and the other is to customize one block to the right size by chiseling it down or just hammering it down to size...use eye protection.

[@Meladavis]

Thank you

[@MOOMOO2728]

I can’t wait to try this project out. I love seeing the pictures of peoples projects. 👍❤️

[@maxpatch67]

Thanks! You wouldn't regret making this!! Have a great day!!

[@elisabethmckoskey7749]

How do you hide the black edging so all you see is the brick? Just let the grass grow up to it a little? Do you know if this method will settle over time and may need to be redone?

[@maxpatch67]

The amount of the black edge showing only depends on how short you cut the grass on the edge. It might show very little or a lot based on your method of edging. Also, there is not any settling over time. Your yard has probably already settled over the years so that is finished and the border will sit firmly in place and not go anywhere.

[@billnipp]

I have an issue with some roots making my ring uneven. Do I build it up or try to saw the roots to make it level?

[@maxpatch67]

If they are just a couple inches in diameter, I'd cut them out. If larger, I'd tamp some dirt done next to them to level it out a little on both sides of the root. Also, try making your ring larger so you are outside that area. Thanks for the question, William!

[@lyn4350]

hi, i want to do this around my trees in the front yard but its very uneven... will this still look good on a sloopy area?

[@maxpatch67]

You can really smooth it out and make it look nice by only spiking the plastic edgeing down to the high parts. This will allow the stiff plastic edge to basically gliide over the low spots. This gives it a more uniform look. If there is any really huge dip, you would want to throw some dirt in there to level it. I hope this helps, lyn4350.

[@davidnaranjo6919]

What if you have very thick st Augustine grass do we have to remove grass first

[@maxpatch67]

As long as you can pound the stakes into ground, then yes. But, that is a good question, because I have never tried that to it may not be possible right? Do you think you could pound those stakes down and get that plastic edge down to ground level? Maybe not, right??

[@lrb1e39]

I absolutely love this, and I have a question, if it’s alright. Once I’ve set my concrete, what about the grasses or other weeds that might be within the circle? When you did your project, since this is a no-dig project, did you lay down any landscape fabric, or did you spray some kind of grass/weed killer?

[@maxpatch67]

Great question, Robert! I hate landscaping fabric and have not used it for many years now on jobs. Here is my preferred method of weed control. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnq6dYOilqdprbs