MaxPax's New BLINK Dark Templar Rush! StarCraft 2 Finals

StarCraft 2 Tournament Grand Finals - Clem vs MaxPax - ESL SC2 EU Cup - Terran vs Protoss - MaxPax battles Clem in an intense, action packed Protoss vs Terran finals!
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[@SanctionNormac]

"And everyone is forced to calm down for 1 damn second" So good! = D

[@marinav3905]

😂😂😂

[@brockveltri6974]

My nightly ritual now consists of watching one of your casts. Don’t even play the game, never have. You’re the greatest caster out there man. I can’t fall asleep without you

[@thingsmac]

Lol, I thought I was the only one, and didn't know how to leave the same compliment without sounding insulting. haha

[@mistaskidda]

Never played the game either, the dude is just the most entertaining caster I have ever listened to.

[@christopherscott6383]

Breakfast, coffee, and Winter casting SC2. Jimmy, this means my day is better!

[@TheBigHitBandit]

Brenda approves

[@vladmatei1958]

Lies. Not when the players include Dark the scary or MaxPax the AI.

[@Innieminnie]

While taking coffee induced shit

[@newlocal2]

To start the day the worst way. Literally. Not because of winter, I adore him, but because of watching content in the morning, instead of using brainpower to do anything else.

[@karolkalinowski4678]

I like also harstem to breakfast (I don't eat it about hour). Enjoy the video tho 🤤

[@dunngyllite7883]

MaxPax vs Clem is the Don Frye vs Yoshihiro Takayama of Starcraft.

[@estrangeddingo423]

Hilariously accurate. What a cultured comment.

[@user-ef4lr7to5m]

A man of distunguished taste. My pleasure, sir.

[@cjmahar7595]

We're these two even born back then?

[@thingsmac]

Wow. Yes hahaha

[@hungdoan9148]

10:30 "And now he is taking the base in the 4...20 position with the Colossi blazing the trail."

[@RYXPfan]

I figured someone had to have commented this 😂😂😂 I've been watching Winter a long time but that comment was a first and he didn't even make a big deal out of it 🤣

[@MrBelfering]

Ah the number 1 Terran in the world according to Dark, it's Clem

[@morgenmuffel5747]

MaxPax’s disrupter control was beautiful

[@thingsmac]

I feel like he doesn't use them more so they don't get hit with the nerf stick. The storm was all a distraction

[@Ragzling]

As a sportsball lover, I really enjoy and appreciate all the references you use!

[@locophat]

We are blessed to have his talents

[@Alloran]

Kids, do not try this at home, Maxpax is a macro god. I don't know how he keeps his production so high, his gateways work like queen injects, the man/woman/actual fucking protoss keeps warp ins going and robo uptime pretty much 100% active.

[@chloesmith4065]

for some reason warping in units is the easiest part of Protoss macro for me

[@mBlackThunder]

@@chloesmith4065 hehe yeah for me too xD, but getting the right amount of gateways behind it is an other matter =P

[@adoi8467]

Im now working far from home, this is the content that made me feels at home.

[@ManDuderGuy]

Came for the Starcrafting. Stayed for the Wintercasting.

[@Kowzorz]

postgame comment maxpax suffered many strong blows from clem but still somehow wrenches the good position out of it and prevents the fatal damage. impressive display

[@jeidehen]

I LOVE your pro-player buff cards. Its so fun!

[@thingsmac]

And I like how MaxPax doesn't get off the hook for being "mysterious" as some say, "sketchy" as I see it. "I'm the best in the world, but can't play away from home setup...." hmm

[@TGPanda242]

"disruptors and dark templars, the double D's of destruction" might be your best line ever

[@divian22]

Max Pax finding a style with the DT's I think he needs a new nickname if he keeps outplaying with them.

[@FlokiTech]

The average ladder playstyle?

[@firestarter000001]

Beatifull game 1. Its also nice to see both of them trying something fresh, never saw Clem with banshees, and it looked surpsinsgly usefull against blink stalkers. And Maxpax with storm...

[@aryksanchez5070]

1st game maxpax did a verry good job of defending early aggression and took an early game advantage to get ahead......terran did a good job of not letting toss harrassment do criplling damage and also built a good solid good army, toss made a goodd tech switch to disrupters protoss army deserve this victory.

[@dajusta87]

Finally MaxPax can beat Clem!!!!

[@RipR0LL]

This matchup and Dark v Byun are some of the best matchups we've gotten since Serral hasn't been on SC2 ;(

[@79johnJ]

good to see the Protoss win ;)

[@FlokiTech]

It's almost like the entire protoss pro scene forgot that they had dt's and storm for all this time while it was the key to winning all this time.

[@firestarter000001]

@@FlokiTech Well there is also the small matter of Maxpax insane level of gameplay/micro...

[@raccoonhatcity7627]

The good guys gotta sometimes!

[@chloesmith4065]

Live by the disruptor, die by the disruptor

@@FlokiTech max pax was kinda shifting from colossus to disruptors and once he maxxed on vikings, he kept building disruptors. When he stopped making vikings that much he started building colosus. He really outmicro'd the fk out of terran player here. The DT harrass while non stop fighting was crazy. This has to be the best protoss player rn

[@Ole_Rasmussen]

How is there this much great SC2 going on and how are you able to upload on the daily! Life is good sometimes

[@Lottar]

Love all those seamlessly interwoven futurama references

[@EDDIXspider]

I will never forget. Several moutnths ago Utermal play against MaxPax. When uTermy was a pro he was 50-30 in the world. May be in top ten terran. But he is the best MEMEster , rusher and now (KZbinr) have be BEST ever PsyHo attack against top pro. But MAXiPaxi is THE BEST PROTOS. But the META , the same, pro games against pure madnes . And even the best can FALL.

[@Unicron187]

34:22 talking about the regional finals: i do not know the exact "terms of service" here, but is it possible that - after one wins the regional finals in sc2, the winner needs to attend further events (maybe even offline tournaments) down the line, ultimately revealing that maxpax was just dark on another computer all the time?

[@davidskinner6781]

"Almost like a Matador waving what ... a flag? A carpet? Idk whatever a cape?"

[@thingsmac]

@23:56 I love how these two drop each other non-stop, and absolutely never have static defence to prevent it lol "Can't afford to cut production" - loses 5 workers as a result "Gotta pressure" It's true that fast hyper-aggression puts opponent on back foot, and behind, but I feel like the first one to actually make a turret/cannon on their repeatedly dropped lines would actually have an advantage- but then again they're Clem & [_____], so what do I know?

[@natecw4164]

Taking 2 4th bases at once seems to be a very popular and strong approach against Terran

[@dexlldroid3958]

That was an incredible series.

[@remeokits]

Dark Templars are ambush units. So they should patrol the spots most likely for enemy reinforcement to be mindlessly running. Or hiding in an enemy base waiting for its chance to strike during a big engagement.

[@benismann]

Except you can see them with no detection if you look hard enough

[@sodamascolo600]

We got a sc1 vs sc2 vid, are we going to get an AI vs AI game? That would be cool to see Brenda talk to the knitting crew about being controlled by an AI.

[@wuschu5563]

I think there was a waaay back a game between two alphastars to show thair training, but i might be wrong. It was pvp i think tho.

[@thingsmac]

You just got an AI vs human game, why are you complaining? Clem just lost to it, and he's not even complaining. (But actually, yeah AI matches should be cast way more imho)

[@horationelson2153]

This did indeed make my challenging day just a little bit better - thanks!

[@Gogohobbytv]

MaxPax makes Protoss look great again!

[@DeaThfighter44]

that first game was TEXTBOOK protoss gameplay. maxpax is a solid strategist

[@Dax3s]

Love these two players' games always such a bloodbath

[@Surime]

My blood was boiling . Amazing match

[@thingsmac]

I think that's supposed to be a reference to anger. (Unless you're talking about how frustrating it is watching 2 people repeatedly drop each others lines and never make static defence, lose workers, and just keep being agressive to the other, or Clem not SCV repairing damaged medivacs when they're the backbone of his army- that stuff might make a person's blood boil but it's so much easier said than done)

[@Surime]

@@thingsmac You totally get me wrong lol .. I mean those matches are intense lol

[@adamcapwell1557]

MaxPax just made Clem look positively mortal. Hell of a game

[@socstud0]

Did he say "a base taken in the 4:20 position"?? more Easter eggs than a Marvel movie!

[@Alloran]

And the Colossus were blazing, he stuck the landing.

[@Zulu4impi]

💪👽👍 Max Pax for the win Excellent game excellent cast 🥶❄️🥶

[@YuNherd]

winter keepin up with the gunslingin of these two players, just insane

[@AJ-ri7tb]

Man MaxPax is awesome.

[@Kawabongahlive]

I barely even play this game against AI but damn I love your channel, I watch everything.

[@paulknighton3013]

If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a Disruptor.

[@mihairo83]

This is MaxPax playing out of this world again. I don't want to offend anyone, but I watched all his macthes in the ESL regionals and in the Final vs. Clem he just played badly, which I found suspicious at first, and then I figured that he won't show up in the World Cup, so he lost the Final. Am I crazy? Thank you Winter for casting this ❤

[@luissanchez3d]

Dude I also saw that! We'll never now what the reason was, but totally. I assumed he was sick or something

[@mihairo83]

@luissanchez3d Like I said, I watched basically all the ESL matches. The casters were amazing. The streams were 8 hours long. Sometimes I followed the chat when we were watching a big match, such as MaxPax's. I remember a lot of hate. People calling him AI or probably playing with cheating programmes, because you can't be this good. MaxPax invented the one gate expand among other things. Now I see a lot of one gate expand attempts in the plat - diamond league. I think he's an anxious person and find hard to compete as his best level with all the attention. I do agree that playing offline tournaments puts even more pressure on you. So we can't say who is capable of what unless he performs in offline tournaments, but why hate him for not showing up in these events? It's his life. Why not just enjoy this absolutely outstanding performance?

[@thingsmac]

​@@mihairo83 Good commentary. As long as Blizzard has done their due diligence to affirm he's an actual person that's cool. Also, he could be a Blizzard employee. It might not be nerves. And finally, it's still not out of the realm of possibility for him to be using some unfair advantage, because if SC is this important to you, lol, then apparently it's not that important to you...? Suspicious. Maybe he is just a shy, emotionally weak person (which is kind of contrary to the character that sucess in Starcraft necessitates- emotional strength I mean) so maybe he's a noble or dignitary. Yes, it's his life, and I assume his matches are dualy scrrutinized at this level, because it would be a huge ball-drop for Blizzard to miss that for so long.

[@tomshines5389]

I love this game sometimes man... this is one of them times!

[@Dragooncore]

That was some crazy control, amazing gameplay

[@hexaquras9374]

it did looked like the WP would have had enough HP to survive that

[@marlino321]

amazing series!!

[@GangstaRaccoon]

First game was every match I play against protoss haha! Definetly the race I struggle the most against

[@ArtemisShanks]

Inexplicably, I’m sensing some anti-protoss bias from our Zerg main caster.

[@yugonostalgia8961]

He's a random main bruv~

[@benismann]

where

[@thingsmac]

@@benismann Yeah- this comment has no solid merit without a timestamp or proper explaination I feel

[@luissanchez3d]

MAXIMUS PAXIMUS!!!

[@kazzkazzington6611]

Is Clem better than GumiGOD? I dont think so.

[@freshsmilely]

that game 2 probe was a plus 1000 mental damage.

[@lexxlucre]

Winter is the coldest announcer. Favorite now that Tastetosis is no more for SC2. Winter made the nights less cold.

[@crystaldazz]

Will we ever get another Angry Coach?

[@R1po]

Interesting and exciting games. Fun to watch

[@cathulionetharn5139]

Thank You Om nom nom

[@WookofWallstreet]

Don't 4get too like the video

[@adamplevey8385]

Ravens still have detection right? Game 2 lol

[@chloesmith4065]

for some reason pro Terrans rarely build ravens

[@adamplevey8385]

@chloesmith4065 he had a raven dropping auto turrets to harass the worker line while having no missle turrets and low on scan energy, being overwhelmed by dts. Also he kept raven alive that whole game, and i don't know if it helped kill a single dt lol

[@thingsmac]

@@adamplevey8385 exachery. But what do you mean by Missle Turret- I thought Terran only had them in Brood War? They have them in SC2??? Dang. Imagine, all the times the warp prism just strolled into Clem's main and dropped workers, again & again

[@russd1048]

Jimmy! Raise the bar. Let’s go for 2500 likes on this video.

[@clockworkserpent]

Blink DT Rush, as a Protoss, I can't help but click on this vid

[@mikeceez123]

I’m down in units, down in bases, and down in workers. But I’m ahead, what race am I?

[@BulDurham]

Always nice to see Terran get oofed

[@samulemichlemichle4419]

A video everyday is insane.

[@adeanoalphonso8399]

Dont forget to Like

[@jefferyharper5720]

Maxoax never opens star port. I don't remember the last time he built one. It says a lot about balance when the best protoss player in the world doesn't build any air units other than warp prisms.

[@thingsmac]

@11:00 There's no excuse to not bring a repair SCV in a medivac to keep them at full health between skirmishes. Nah... who needs a strong backbone to your army anyways, right? Afterall 50 minerals is more important even though you're at full worker saturation and could easily click the most common hotkey to solve this issue.

[@ashra8281]

Winter, legit question why do pros go attack upgrades first on protoss when v terran? Cos surely the armour does more cos of the rate of fire of marines v like stalkers right?

[@Nuggetheadification]

I think in part it is due to the fact that toss only gets half the value getting the armor due to the shields being separate. Additionally I think players like maxpax can reply on their micro to reliably get their units out of the way before they die, like with blink or prism micro - meaning the attack up allows them to do more damage.

[@ashra8281]

@Nuggetheadification ahh I wasn't thinking about blink or prism micro. I did a few runs in thr unit tester and they did better with armour upgrades than attack but that's with no micro

[@ManDuderGuy]

The reason why you want weapon upgrades more than armor upgrades (in general) is that the damage your units do is going to be a factor almost always, whereas the damage they take is less often a factor; and with protoss especially, armor upgrades are separate from shields which comprise half or 1/3 of protoss units' health. Think about blink stalkers for example: their mobility allows them to dart in and out and shoot things without getting hurt. When your units are destroying buildings or sniping off enemy units, damage is more important than toughness.

[@thingsmac]

@@ManDuderGuy Good stuff

[@ManDuderGuy]

@@thingsmac Word up broski.

[@locophat]

Whaat? All this time Jimmy has been a fictional character?

[@MultiBraner]

brng it jimmy

[@Innieminnie]

Please tell me 23:44 was a reference to Watchmen.

[@roomhex1946]

Jezzz pac is so op his control is insane

[@PashaSlavaUkraine]

Max pax match point (x100) say super fast !

[@Stilga77]

Clem refusing to research drilling claws ....

[@yugonostalgia8961]

He's used widow mines as a crutch for all his 'success.' About time he learns how to actually play

[@hivetech4903]

@@yugonostalgia8961 Clem learn to play? 🤣The dude literally just won the ESL Spring Premiere 😂He's the number 2 in the world right now behind Serral 😂 Plat leaguers and their "game knowledge' lol.

[@hivetech4903]

Drilling claws is not something that is ever researched in pro level PvT... what do you mean by "refusing"...?

[@Kawabongahlive]

@@yugonostalgia8961 LMFAO CLEM SHOULD LEARN HOW TO PLAY !!1!1ONE!1!ELEVEN!11!!

[@yugonostalgia8961]

@@hivetech4903 Yeah. He built widow mines, burrowed them, and with that amazing high-skill high-iq move, won several championships off of that. It's not that he's bad, obviously not, but Byun or Maru could play Protoss or Zerg just as successfully. Clem couldn't survive without Terran's abusable mechanics* *Not complaining about game balance here, it's quite good. It's specifically widow mines being broken, as well as ghost snipe + emp invalidating every spellcaster, making it impossible to retreat without taking heavy losses. This again isn't imbalanced, but it's all Clem does. Byun has incredible micro, GuMiho has creative builds & strategies, but Clem just relies on widow mines & ghosts. Embarassing

[@dragoscc1163]

Finally...

[@bothpinkysbroken]

Nice

[@MrMauriv]

Only because serral is in the army :P

[@BodyKnight]

God, i wish a Zerg would stil lose in a TvP.

[@andersonsampaio5133]

Protoss need to work hard since the beginning to kill 6-7 workers and OP Terran just need 1 mine to I kill 11 workers

[@a33262]

anyone else catch his 420 / blaze comment?

[@Dadbod007]

I see maxpax. I click.

[@remeokits]

Zealots are meant to run in and die for their beliefs. Good protoss games, protoss is the best race!!!!!

[@Edandar]

Disruptor shots should restore shields on protoss units.

[@yugonostalgia8961]

If it was a brood war unit, it would restore protoss shields but reduce them to 1hp lol

[@hivetech4903]

And that's why metal-league players don't make balance suggestions.

[@Edandar]

@@hivetech4903 Oh yes, because this suggestion is oh so serious. A lot of videos of BW vs SC2 races.. It's almost like you can have fun without always considering perfect balance.

[@AngryTyplosion]

Zero Hour gang... Wait wrong site

[@jasonnguyen350]

WINTER

[@Ghosted2222]

MaxPax is good

[@SawyerKnight]

I've Never Seen Anything Like this Before.

[@user-ue7fb2uo6c]

EMP is just so powerful. instant splash damage wipes out entire shield...

[@thingsmac]

((Disruptor quietly leaves the room so the conversation can continue))

[@mattoverton9087]

EMP being the most bullshit spell still makes me annoyed as a toss *i cannot understand how it is fair to do that much dmg with a single spell*

[@mattoverton9087]

Btw i know the disruptor is good but nobody talks about emp being spammable

[@ManDuderGuy]

Yeah EMP is a bit OP still if you ask me, it's all the little things that add up: You don't have to research it. It's pretty much instant cast with a good range/radius and it does its damage instantly. It's spammable if you have a few ghosts. It reveals cloaked units. It wipes out caster energy AND shields for protoss instantly. There is no way to move out of it or counteract it.

[@hivetech4903]

😐😥😭 😂

[@chloesmith4065]

because it doesn't actually kill anything by itself. compared to storm, say... emp HAS been talked about, and it has been nerfed multiple times. first it needed an upgrade for more radius, then the upgrade was removed and max radius was reduced from 2 to 1.5; it's still incredibly powerful but I blame the ghost for just being too overtuned in general with 100 health, no light tag, a strong auto attack (compared to no attack or trash auto attacks on other spellcasters like high Templar or infestors or vipers) - snipe was also recently nerfed so it does less vs non-psionic units, trying to make the ghost more of an anti-spellcaster than anti-everything. Anyways yeah ghosts are strong but that's why maxpax goes disruptor instead of HT most of the time because EMP doesnt stop disruptor shots the way it drains HT energy. Though I've seen people oneshot ghosts with feedback from HT too, especially since rapid-fire exists now.

[@thingsmac]

@@ManDuderGuy Dude, you also just described a disruptor, lol

[@XmharlonX]

maxpax can beat clem, but struggle to beat serral.

[@cousinpatsey2471]

In fairness, who doesn't?

[@chloesmith4065]

I think his style matches up better versus Clem than Serral

[@ZerXs7]

:O

[@user-ut8gu7lz2j]

This is why anything but it rushes sukes

[@benismann]

I'll make a BOLD assumption. Maxpax looses.

[@benismann]

I was wrong. Wow.

[@laodrofotic7713]

Yet, both cant win a game in GSL.

[@cousinpatsey2471]

Both could. But that tournament is hard to justify for Europeans to play in. Not enough prize money.

[@hivetech4903]

😂Clem is literally ranked higher than any Korean player right now. MaxPax ranked higher than all of them except Maru whom he's only one behind.

[@wuschu5563]

You say like ladder experience is the same as competetive games lol. Last world championship Maru was the only terrran that gave Serral a hard time, even if he lost in the end. Serral ate Clem like a ladder game. Not even mentioning the fact that europe's best players are zergs and Clem's best matchup is vZ... The only non zerg, european pro that is good enough to compete with him is Maxpax. Now look at Korea. Gumiho, Dark, Solar, Maru, Hero, Cure, Byoun, Creator with Rouge, Stats or TY working to come back. Then you have players like Olivera or Nighmare, that on good day can win with all the above.

[@XabiBello]

GSL for a non-korean, best case scenario: take a 12 hour flight to Seoul ($500) middle april. Book a cheap hotel for a month ($600-$1,000), play the qualifiers. 15 days later, for some reason, play the groups 1 and get qualified. Book another month ($600-$1,000) because due to reasons groups 2 is middle june. Play and win groups 2, book another week ($200). Play and win the playoffs, collect a whooping $3,600 price. Read the KZbin comments saying it was luck. Take a flight back ($500) and enjoy the earnings of maybe $400 pre-tax, but probably a net loss, after three months living abroad alone in a cheap hotel barely speaking with anyone. God forbid that you reach and lose the final, because that means a net loss of $1,600.

[@cousinpatsey2471]

@@wuschu5563 you're basing your argument of Maru and Clem's ability on a single series against the best player in the world. Where, notably, neither player took a game off Serral, but you think one player did better because a single game looked close for a little bit. Notably: If you do wanna go by how they play vs Serral as the metric, Clem has a 40% game winrate vs him, 32% match winrate. Maru is at 32% game winrate and 25% match winrate. You can look up these statistics on the Liquipedia head to head. You can also look at the global rankings, where Clem is second overall in points globally. Any way you want to look at it, your argument sucks, Clem is a great player and has earned his rank. He can compete with the Koreans, and is capable of winning tournaments with them involved. Like Masters Winter.

[@arksurge7084]

wtf is the most professional? You either make money or you don't, it's a binary not a spectrum.

[@thingsmac]

I'm trying to decide if your comment even deserves a reply

[@awangardteran9837]

MaxPax is really strong