The TRUTH About GUITAR Synths: What They Can And Can't Do

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Max Solo Music

Max Solo Music

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In this video: What is the difference between Roland GR-55 and Boss SY-300 guitar synthesizers. What they can and what they can not do. Why pick one over another.
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@nonsenseinmyhead9016
@nonsenseinmyhead9016 4 жыл бұрын
Well done!!! You covered most of the important features without a lot of boring breakdowns that usually make me turn off a video a couple of minutes in. Thanks!!!
@RafaelYamaga
@RafaelYamaga 4 жыл бұрын
Simply magnificent. Nothing new or incredibly detailed, but the perfect video to understand limits and capabilities of both equipments and, moreover, the group they represent. Clever idea, my friend. And the way you chose to show the comparison and the simple edit makes it an even better, fundamental video. Cheers from Brazil!
@ilive4god2007
@ilive4god2007 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! The best comparison and explanation of the differences between these two powerful devices!
@danilomagli8433
@danilomagli8433 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great explanation. You've solved a lot of basic doubts about this topic.
@PooNinja
@PooNinja 4 жыл бұрын
great info Sir :) nice break down of the HOW not just the sounds :)
@CaptainMorganism
@CaptainMorganism 4 жыл бұрын
You did a great job differentiating between the two units!
@chrisjeneson5091
@chrisjeneson5091 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry I missed this Max, very informative, as always.
@jameserenberger3425
@jameserenberger3425 Жыл бұрын
This is easily the best video on the subject I have ever found. Liked and subbed. Could you please do a comparison between the GR 55 & GR 20? I would appreciate it. Thank you!
@XENONEZZ2
@XENONEZZ2 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video ...thank you !!.... I'd to give a shout out regards Godin guitars here..the LGXT or Godin Multiac Grand Concert SA work wonderfully with the GR-55 !!..:-))
@negui46togui
@negui46togui 4 жыл бұрын
Sir you are the best you just told me what I wanted to know and I will buy me the GR 55 thank you and God bless you
@nikthefix8918
@nikthefix8918 Жыл бұрын
It's an old concept that works really well. You could use guitar as an input 'oscillator' for the old modular synths too but I never heard many people doing it.
@JonMurray
@JonMurray 2 жыл бұрын
Great video buddy! New subscriber ✌🏻 Just fitting the permanent install version of the pick up now so can’t wait to start messing around with the pedal! I feel like a lot of the sounds are a little dated and some a bit gimmicky but the possibilities for layered sound design with the mix of standard pick up and synth pick up are insane!
@stephanematis
@stephanematis 3 жыл бұрын
The Trancy on GR55 and P01 at the end felt like a classic JDM pop/guitar tune, perhaps accompanying a race down a nice mountain road IntialD style.
@Javier-qk7ms
@Javier-qk7ms 4 жыл бұрын
Great. Now take it one step further and compare Fishman Triple Play wireless vs Midi Guitar 2. I am trying the later and chances are I Will try it with my friends band this weekend.
@vhcxhbvg
@vhcxhbvg 4 жыл бұрын
Lolol no way! I literally just got off the phone with Graphtechs dude, Gray. Awesome guy btw. We talked about getting synth power to my Harley Benton Fusion FR. I see you have a Fusion as well.
@boydbaessler4765
@boydbaessler4765 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison and informational tutorial on synth sounds, Thanks.
@FollowSteveJPN
@FollowSteveJPN Жыл бұрын
What was wrong with the SY300? I want to make video game music using real instruments.
@hgk8864
@hgk8864 3 жыл бұрын
Great Demo, first time I really got the difference between the two.
@christopherclarke3022
@christopherclarke3022 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job at quickly explaining the differences.
@ed.t.hansen6499
@ed.t.hansen6499 4 жыл бұрын
how to compare to the tc helicon voice live extreme vl3x ? good to hear how they compare with the SY as they take the original signal also
@mrblablablabla
@mrblablablabla 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this very clear explanation! Seems like the SY300 keeps more of the guitar’s spirit.
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic 3 жыл бұрын
It does! In a way :)
@jimmooney5223
@jimmooney5223 2 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely old school here, having cut my musical teeth in the 60s. I understand that the meaning of words does evolve over time but to me, the definition of a synthesizer is an instrument that creates sounds from whole cloth using oscillators, filters et al. So to me, the SY family are true synthesizers and the GR pedals are samplers. Feel free to disagree with me. They are both still marvelous devices.
@ralphpezda6523
@ralphpezda6523 2 жыл бұрын
He said the 55 uses samples.
@jimmooney5223
@jimmooney5223 2 жыл бұрын
@@ralphpezda6523Yes, he did. Thanks for the reinforcement.
@AndreCholmondeley
@AndreCholmondeley Жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s almost correct the only problem is that samplers by definition let the user record new sound into the sampler and then manipulate the sound technically the GR 55 is a PCM synthesis machine …so yes it’s using recordings of actual sound.. but you can radically change them and kind of make very unique sounds so not quite a sampler but maybe a sample playback machine ..kind of ..sort of
@jimmooney5223
@jimmooney5223 Жыл бұрын
@@AndreCholmondeley So basically you repeated what I said and then incorrectly turned the conclusion on its head. The SY family uses oscillators to generate sounds; the GR family uses sampled sounds. Both offer a plethora of filters and effects to manipulate the sounds being created, but a device using sampled sounds, no matter what manner of manipulation is applied, is by definition a sampler, not a synthesizer. You can't look at green and tell me it's red.
@AndreCholmondeley
@AndreCholmondeley Жыл бұрын
@@jimmooney5223 Hey not trying to argue with you man- just clarifying to some people who might wanna know that most samplers let you load new samples into it. There is such a term as sample playback machine…. and for decades that’s been used to clarify when a machine cannot create a new sample. Sorry you took it personally -not trying to fight with you at all -your information was great, I was just clarifying that one word-- have a great day
@ElectricViolinShop
@ElectricViolinShop 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks! You're a fantastic teacher.
@mohamadjavadchabok4019
@mohamadjavadchabok4019 3 жыл бұрын
That was fantastic and informative, thanks for the video.
@Huargoes
@Huargoes 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing demo as always!
@sergiomilioto6927
@sergiomilioto6927 Жыл бұрын
Por fin alguien que explica las cosas como son , Grandioso!!!!
@taractaylor
@taractaylor Жыл бұрын
OMG! Thank you! I have been looking at purchasing the Roland Synth pedal for my guitar & bass. After watching your video I think I am going to purchase it!😎
@1Steve
@1Steve 2 жыл бұрын
very good review, it would be great if you could present a video comparing for example the gr55 with the mooer ge300, especially in terms of quality of sounds emulating different instruments, the mooer doesnt require a pick up, but are the sounds ok? and also curious about the virtual "sample modeling" software, any thoughts abut it ? thank you so
@guildt50
@guildt50 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you........concise, entertaining and informative comparison ....!!!!!!
@Musicman3832
@Musicman3832 Ай бұрын
Both of these units look awesome. I'm 14 and just got a job, so I will save up for the Gr 55 and then get a boss synth to run in tandem.
@nealixd.3011
@nealixd.3011 4 жыл бұрын
Cool. I have the Roland GR-33 and VG-8. Good to see this SY-300 can do chords. I never was sure about that until I saw this video. I think I already have most of the GR-55 covered with the GR-33 and VG-8, so I might check out the SY-300 for the ease of hooking up to my normal, non-GK equipped guitars....... TBD. So many choices, so little time, ha.
@Vnthooo
@Vnthooo 2 ай бұрын
Lemme buy that Vg8 off you bro
@paulussantosociwidjaja4781
@paulussantosociwidjaja4781 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the confirmation that I have of those 2 world of BOSS. I have my GP-10 and VG-8 and GI-10. Cheers! Don't know why there is no Thumb Up icon to click. Strange.
@rd40082
@rd40082 7 ай бұрын
Nice trip. Thanks for show us
@camp0017
@camp0017 Жыл бұрын
There is also the Boss GP-10, whose main point is guitar modelling, but it can also do some synth sounds. I own both GR-55 and GP-10 and use them alternatively. However, guitars with different pickups respond in a different way. I have two with built in Hex pickup - Godin xTSA + Godin ACS and a Roland GK-3 mounted on another guitar. So the tracking and modelling may depend also on the guitar you're playing, not just on the synth itself.
@BusterRoonie
@BusterRoonie 2 жыл бұрын
👍🏼GREAT demo/info! Thanks!!!
@johncecilia4517
@johncecilia4517 Жыл бұрын
Cool video Should do one on differences between G55 and GP10
@coreyblaisdell
@coreyblaisdell Ай бұрын
This is exactly what I was looking for. I have been wanting to dip my toes into midi guitar to emulate other instruments/synths, but have been unsure on the best route. I'd love to know what you think the best midi pickup is for this application. Ideally something that works well live through something like the GR-55 but also into a DAW for tracking orchestral instruments, midi drums, piano, etc. I've heard/read both great and terrible things about the Fishman triple play so I've been hesitant to purchase one.
@Tini.F.
@Tini.F. 3 жыл бұрын
I like so much the SY 300 also the cheap 1000 is fine. The GR instead is a MIDI converter but now with JamOrigin you have the same without the exa pick up..
@StratBoss
@StratBoss 23 күн бұрын
Great video! What's the latency and tracking like on the GR55?
@hookey2229
@hookey2229 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation - thanks !!
@Johngaltsghost
@Johngaltsghost 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent description!
@allanyaraw2961
@allanyaraw2961 2 жыл бұрын
nice video....bro. ...i have a question..how to connect my distortion pedal to my gr 33 synthesizer....tnx and make some new videos
@johnharpdalton7766
@johnharpdalton7766 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, thanks.
@baolong0430
@baolong0430 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Max Solo, do you offer beginning lessons on Roland GR55? Thank you much!
@TjorbenOfficial
@TjorbenOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! Question: Can I upload samples on one or both of them?
@jonathanvandenberg3571
@jonathanvandenberg3571 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using Gr55 for about 10 years. Jazz musician. It's amazing. Use with Godin SA
@aubreyholman1951
@aubreyholman1951 3 жыл бұрын
Same here bud! I love mine and it has allowed me to create a unique presence and playing style.
@kevinharkness2108
@kevinharkness2108 3 жыл бұрын
@@aubreyholman1951 I think the main reason the gr55 is not mainstream is because guitarists are very reluctant to put the hex pickup on their beloved instruments. However, if you can get your head around this it can turn a mere guitar into something from another dimension. I took the the plunge 6 yrs ago and put it on an old 80's prs signature, it hasn't been off since.
@aubreyholman1951
@aubreyholman1951 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinharkness2108 absolutely 💯
@wernerschneider6815
@wernerschneider6815 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Max, thanx for this really good comparison. There should be more clear information in internet like this! In the meantime (also because of your video !!) I got a SY 300 and as an absolute beginner I am not able to program patches like those that you played, the U04 "Strings", the U05 "Ghost lead" and especially the U97 "Jump". Can you please explain the corresponding settings in the SY 300? Thanx again and continue like this!! Greetings from Bavaria :-)
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Werner. It's hard to explain in a few words and requires some experience with sound design. Drop me a message via Facebook and i'll try to find a way to send you the presets
@MegaTechnoteacher
@MegaTechnoteacher 2 жыл бұрын
I am still discovering my GR55's versatility years later. It kicks!
@michaelgmyers
@michaelgmyers 2 жыл бұрын
same here, i put it up for a while along with my xsta, just put it back to work recording, such a gem
@robertcaldwell2107
@robertcaldwell2107 Жыл бұрын
Is the pick up easily moveable if you want to use on more than one guitar?
@Mprfctgntlmn
@Mprfctgntlmn 4 жыл бұрын
The big plus is that the SY-300 works just fine for all guitars and basses, regardless of string counts.
@Mprfctgntlmn
@Mprfctgntlmn 4 жыл бұрын
I play exclusively on 7 string guitars.
@learnalickaday7272
@learnalickaday7272 2 жыл бұрын
can I control VST's in Logic and get a MIDI notation readout via USB with GR55? Thank you
@mebeasensei
@mebeasensei 23 күн бұрын
i want an arpegiator one that, with one stomp, start pumping my chord or note in time with a beat? anyone know whah is best?
@gjm1971
@gjm1971 4 жыл бұрын
Great as always!!!
@Fedor_Sumkin1
@Fedor_Sumkin1 Жыл бұрын
What is better roland gr 55 with electro guitar or jamstik studio(or classic) midi guitar?
@latenight5865
@latenight5865 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this clip! I'm thinking 'bout buying either of them to have a closer tone of upright bass for my semi-acoustic bass guitar. In this case, which one would be a better choice for me? Probably GR55?
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, GR-55 shall do the job. I'm using it to emulate acoustic guitar and it sounds really good
@royandmarievlogs
@royandmarievlogs 3 жыл бұрын
Are these compatible with a practice amplifier like a 15w vox amp.?
@JanKowalski-sy9nc
@JanKowalski-sy9nc Жыл бұрын
Does SY-300 or 1000 emulate "just" piano or sax or violin, like single instrument on all strings like GR-55 at 9:11?
@mariarosso3890
@mariarosso3890 4 жыл бұрын
Thank for info¡ Max solo... Really help¡ from Argentina: Cheers¡¡
@lambertfooks7358
@lambertfooks7358 3 жыл бұрын
Had anyone have their gr-55 pedal malfunction? The sound breaks up when pressing volume pedal.
@SirRigbyBaconKaiser
@SirRigbyBaconKaiser 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! However I have a few questions what is the tracking on these two, especially if you're playing faster? Also could you use your guitars input to record MIDI out?
@lfradkin
@lfradkin 2 жыл бұрын
The 55 triggers MIDI Note on note off on MIDI output. The SY300 does not.
@hobonickel840
@hobonickel840 10 ай бұрын
It seems like if you have midi out you can run your converted sygnal through any modular synth like say deepmind12D?? Do both the pedals midi out?
@stefanhansen5882
@stefanhansen5882 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation!
@redcomn
@redcomn 4 жыл бұрын
Soon in april we will have both of this and some more in one product. I can't wait to rock on with bass vi
@sagemaster9754
@sagemaster9754 4 жыл бұрын
What is the product who is bring out a new pedal.
@redcomn
@redcomn 4 жыл бұрын
@@sagemaster9754 boss sy-1000 bro
@cardeldaniels7886
@cardeldaniels7886 9 ай бұрын
It answered the important questions I had. 1 the 80’s GR 50 i was gonna use is probably to problematic sonically. 2 i want quick ready made samples. Primarily strings. 3 that’s the Roland. I don’t have time to program too much. Thank you
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic 9 ай бұрын
Glad I could help!
@house-ghost
@house-ghost Жыл бұрын
OUTSTANDING!! Thank you
@INeverWanted2010
@INeverWanted2010 Жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison dude! I'm recently looking at these synth modules for bass. I know Roland makes one of those MIDI pickups for bass, but can you still use the GR-55?
@burgermind802
@burgermind802 Жыл бұрын
really late answer for anyone interested. there's a guitar mode and a bass mode with the gr55
@davidtexmex1616
@davidtexmex1616 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison, very well done 👏🏼 The GR55 really could be a lifetime’s learning curve, the variety of options are virtually endless. The SY-300 and SY-1 (new stomp) are appealing in their lesser complexity.
@ralphpezda6523
@ralphpezda6523 2 жыл бұрын
That's the way it's been for a long time. A Prophesy II preamp manual from Rocktron is 96 pages long. The manual for a TC Electronic Triple Flashback is about 40 pages if I remember right. Etc.,& etc. & etc. Yes, you can still plug in and play but today you likely also need a computer, smartphone, a working knowledge of MIDI, and advanced degrees in electrical engineering and computer science to connect everything properly and then figure out how to make it work at all and then do what you think you want. Many times I got half way through, or much less, and wondered "what are they talking about???" Trying to mix and match units and applications from different manufacturers can be done but it's often even more confusing. I can't address the latest from Roland but in years past in order to make any sense from their keyboard manuals you had to start reading at the end and then either jump around as best you could or read it moving backward toward the front. Great fun that was. On top of it all if you don't use that particular piece of equipment regularly it is easy to forget how to make it work.
@randommuiscchannel1049
@randommuiscchannel1049 11 ай бұрын
Yep its built like a tank too
@gregdavidson5898
@gregdavidson5898 Жыл бұрын
and now we have the SY-1000. Could you compare please? The Sy-1000 costs a few hundred more. TY
@richardchristensen1768
@richardchristensen1768 Жыл бұрын
I've got the SY 300 And I recently got a sustainiac equipped guitar Haven't tried them together though Is there anyone out there whom has tried anything with this combination?
@joeking433
@joeking433 2 жыл бұрын
How does the Boss GP-10 compare to these units? I freakin LOVE the GP-10!
@OHHnoYOUdidntMAN
@OHHnoYOUdidntMAN 4 жыл бұрын
Tame Impala's Currents album is the only reasons why i want & need a GR-55 o.o It throws out a lot of the stock sounds and utilizes custom patches. The end guitar on the song 'Let It Happen', the mid-synth breakdown of 'The Moment' and the entire verses section of the 'Less I Know the Better' are all great representatives of the SHEER POWER of the GR-55! :D
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Which reminds me once again I should spend some more quality time with it
@Karlagarciamusic
@Karlagarciamusic 4 ай бұрын
thanks so much great explanation!
@OUigot
@OUigot 4 жыл бұрын
I used to own a GR-55, bought it for $800 Cdn had to sell it because I was broke. I loved it! I don't know if you can find them anymore? Boss SY-1000 caught my eye until I saw the price of $1500....nope!
@anthonymumford4277
@anthonymumford4277 2 жыл бұрын
it's worth noting that Boss and Roland are the same company. the tracking seems faster and cleverer on the sy3000. and the gr55 requires a special pickup whilst sy3000 does not. I am wondering if the technology could be mixed, so the tracking and string detection is done by a Boss sy circuit, but the sound output is done using the roland gr circuit. so we can do away with hex pickup and all its problems and restrictions.
@ramabargawaparasu9199
@ramabargawaparasu9199 3 жыл бұрын
Great Demo, sir!😁
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@dadgonewild381
@dadgonewild381 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative -thanks. FYI, my guitar has a built-in 13pin output so I rented a GR-55 for a week while I was in Canada (they still rent stuff up there- lucky b*stards.) I loved it. Aside from the synth sounds the guitars sounds are awesome. Overall,I wrote a friend stating it was the greatest invention ever created. But its $800+tax...
@jamiemorgan4146
@jamiemorgan4146 3 жыл бұрын
10+++ !!! Great Demo ! One of the best !!!
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@clyde2027i
@clyde2027i 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanna know if you the Roland SY-300 can use with Software synth
@TablaDeep
@TablaDeep 2 жыл бұрын
Reall helpful thank you@!
@aaronlietz
@aaronlietz 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this!
@ellane8441
@ellane8441 3 жыл бұрын
Roland/Boss are Masters at Sound Processing Technology. I’ve been using their products for over 30 yrs. Continued Successful WORK. MAX
@TheSoulsandRevive
@TheSoulsandRevive 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the info Max, very informative. In my personal taste the GR-55 is by far more versatile and the sounds/tones are better. Yes I concur - Only downfall is having to install the GK divided pickup. I know you screw the end part to the strap button but Do You have to drill/screw the padded adjustable clamp part? The actual pick up part comes with double sided tape adhesive? Cheers
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, it is advised to fix the actual pickup with screws. But if you ask me, it works just fine with the tape. It will need a new piece of tape eventually but it's better than drilling holes in an expensive guitar
@XENONEZZ2
@XENONEZZ2 2 жыл бұрын
Another neat alternative is to buy a Godin LGXT or Godin Multiac Grand Concert SA. Both of which work wonderfully with the GR-55.
@larryh.3173
@larryh.3173 2 жыл бұрын
@@XENONEZZ2 Or you can also find a *Brian Moore iGuitar*. Everything is already built in, no GK pickup, etc. necessary.
@Jyec99
@Jyec99 4 жыл бұрын
Hey mate could you please tell me what you did to get the drive tone on the SY - 300 what overdrive settings did you use?
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Hey. That was OD type 'Lead DS', drive at 49, tone at +20
@AnthonyBullock1968
@AnthonyBullock1968 4 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@cbolt4492
@cbolt4492 8 ай бұрын
Very informative
@sfernando1
@sfernando1 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a floor unit that can produce guitar FX and wind instruments, ALL IN ONE?
@notshared4072
@notshared4072 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks. Any plans for an updated shootout w/ the SY-1000? Are any of these suitable for someone looking to create low-effort tabs for students via midi dump into GPT or Muse? Has the state of the art in polyphonic tracking improved sufficiently?
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I don't the SY-1000, so I'm not planning videos with it... yet! As for using midi to create tabs, GR-55 can output midi but it's hard to tell how clean it's going to be. Chances are, using a mouse to write tabs from scratch might be faster than fixing all the ghost notes and tracking errors
@AVguitarchannel
@AVguitarchannel 2 жыл бұрын
I have the sy1000, it's a monster..I will make some videos soon
@notshared4072
@notshared4072 2 жыл бұрын
@@AVguitarchannel Sounds great, thanks. I'm still interested in the tech.
@lombybedlam
@lombybedlam 4 жыл бұрын
When you have 3 OSC onboard - you CAN do ANY sound, and piano also - ANY)) GR55 alder model and does NOT have a polyphonic converter in input like SY-300, main difference.
@dedrickmccord2538
@dedrickmccord2538 4 жыл бұрын
will you explain a bit how this effects your choice? Does that mean you will just have to create the piano sound yourself on the boss?
@doutorluisinho
@doutorluisinho 4 жыл бұрын
Excelente explanação! Obrigado. 🇧🇷 DEUS o abençoe!!
@randommuiscchannel1049
@randommuiscchannel1049 4 жыл бұрын
I have been using the GR-55 for years...the audio player feature is wonderful. Lots of flexibility. However combing the two might sound good together. My custom Carvin’s, have 3 outputs ..13 pin, standard and piezo.. Send GR-55 to PA and guitar out to amp.
@healthyhappyhero
@healthyhappyhero 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! I have a Godin LGXT with the 3 outputs as well. How's the tracking on yours? I struggle with ghost notes.
@hermanodejesus7264
@hermanodejesus7264 3 жыл бұрын
@@healthyhappyhero do you Chief? I’d get one but those ghost notes would be a pain in the neck.
@beenay18
@beenay18 Жыл бұрын
Should i buy gr55 or gm800? Can gm800 play piano like gr55 does? Or gm800 is just an upgrade to sy300?
@randommuiscchannel1049
@randommuiscchannel1049 11 ай бұрын
@@healthyhappyhero It tracks pretty good. You have to dig in and tweak to get rid of ghost notes. I have an acoustic electric with a Gk-3 pickup too. So two guitar profiles I switch between. It takes some articulation practice to limit ghosts notes but is is doable and adds some flare to the guitar tone
@randommuiscchannel1049
@randommuiscchannel1049 11 ай бұрын
@@beenay18 - Looks like the gm800 is next gen but either should be good.
@artgillespie162
@artgillespie162 3 жыл бұрын
I have been using a GR1 and even a gr55 from time to time and mostly use the instrument sounds of a sax, fiddle, organ, banjo, piano, flute, etc. Does the SY have those instrument sounds? I mostly need those when playing live. I don't need all the other polytones and synth type sounds. The gr55 was ok but fell short in a few areas. i am wondering if the SY 300 or even sy1000 would replace it for my needs?
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Well, your question is answered in the video. SY won't have sax or piano sounds cause it's not a sampler
@brianbergmusic5288
@brianbergmusic5288 Жыл бұрын
I have the SY-300 and it is useful if you think of it as a guitar *signal transformer* or even shimmer-FX-box but certainly not as a synth-keyboard replacement. Most of the use will come out of slower lead guitar parts morphed into something else. The oscillators have a dirty characteristic to them that must be tamed; sometimes with cab impulses instead of merely slapping on FX. In this signal transforming mindset, some Vangelis/Jarre-style leads can be mimicked, but not as well as the original gear. Do NOT expect it to sound like a Prophet-V or a Roland Jupiter and you might find creative uses for it -- and I mean niche level creativity. It does have a slight bit of latency where it seems to snip off a bit of string-attack, but perfectly serviceable if you play at moderate and lower tempos (most music). Vibrato tracking is superb, so there is plenty of room for expressiveness. There are ADSR envelopes, but they seem to track sluggishly and without snap -- therefore you cannot pretend to play high-tempo eletro-style basslines that require a rapid&steep decay in the envelopes (basically repeating pluck sounding synth patches will NOT be convincing). If you approach it with a spirit of optimism and and your uses avoid its limitations, it can be useful and even inspiring. That being said, I would not want my guitar to sound like a piano or bell especially with the latency issues (and it looks weird). For those steep-decay tones, just play a keyboard or Yamaha-DX-ish. As for the SY-300', playing guitar through it does not look *too* unnatural -- it's just technology morphing the sustain of the instrument into the steam of saw/sine/square waves. However, there is an pretty ok synth bell tone in the SY-300 presets -- because it sounds stylistically synthetic, it's still not abnormal looking.
@rachelar
@rachelar Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's more of an effector and most sounds aren't that use able unless you want to change your guitar into a bell! 🛎
@ed.t.hansen6499
@ed.t.hansen6499 4 жыл бұрын
how to compare to the tc helicon voice live extreme vl3x ? good to hear how they compare with the SY as they take the original signal also
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic 4 жыл бұрын
As far as i know, Voice Live is a multieffects processor for singers and has nothing to do with synths
@singlefather01
@singlefather01 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds GR55 has more capacity to produce different sound
@boboyamyams
@boboyamyams 10 ай бұрын
If you get the boss gx-100 and an sy-300 youd probably get any practical tasteful sound for your guitar. You can chain them together via midi as well. The gx-100 has a super intuitive and flexible effects chain you can manipulate with a touchscreen. Ditch the roland and get an old keyboard and chain that with the sy-300 via midi. Do I know for 100% that it would work? No but I think it would.
@samsschool3639
@samsschool3639 Жыл бұрын
That first mimute of the video: THANK YOU
@DavidOnTheRoadGuitars
@DavidOnTheRoadGuitars 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the education
@maurosacchetto7523
@maurosacchetto7523 Жыл бұрын
Hi, i got a gr55, surely Is the best sound sinth but it'a pity i broken my gk3 cause Is too much hard the move with that cable, i Will buy again all, cable Is not good, i Hope Roland think to create an esaphonic for humbucker Place
@NebulaStudios1
@NebulaStudios1 4 жыл бұрын
This was a well done explanation. As a GR 55 owner I’d like to see a step-by-step analysis of your pickup setup and your settings.
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks. I simply followed the manual. But there will be some more content on guitar synths and i'll keep that in mind :)
@NebulaStudios1
@NebulaStudios1 4 жыл бұрын
Max Solo Music I’ve found the manual to be less than ideal. Particularly concerning pickup height and adjustments to sensitivity, nuance, play feel etc. How much readjusting are you doing when changing strings, or adjusting your neck? Have you adjusted the set screw on the pickup to match the neck profile? I’ll look forward to additional videos. Thank you for the response.
@beenay18
@beenay18 Жыл бұрын
Should i buy gr55 or gm800? Can gm800 play piano like gr55 does? Or gm800 is just an upgrade to sy300?
@beenay18
@beenay18 Жыл бұрын
they have brought out another guitar synthesizer called gm800 in market which they call next generation guitar synthesizer. Can you tell me what is the difference between these and gm800? which one should I buy? gr55 or gm800?
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic Жыл бұрын
Hey! I haven't checked the new GM-800 as it was literally released days ago. Honestly, I don't even have an option to test it anytime soon but I'd love to. It looks very promising. It usually takes very long for Boss/Roland to refresh their guitar synths lineup. I assume the development cycle is pretty long as well, so updates must be worth it. With that said, I'd go for a newer model
@roberttrautwein1260
@roberttrautwein1260 5 ай бұрын
Are they both polyphonic?
@bram9498
@bram9498 4 жыл бұрын
What unit does vibrato the best? And what unit has the least latency if you want to use the midi out? thanks
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Only GR-55 can output notes via MIDI as SY-300 has no tracking. Vibrato is a common LFO based effect. Both units can easily do that
@SH-pd5cs
@SH-pd5cs 3 жыл бұрын
i just bought a GR-55 , can i import a backing track in and record as i play over it?
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that should work with a USB drive
@Drift678
@Drift678 4 жыл бұрын
How hard was it for you to get the tracking and the sensitivity dialed in?
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic 4 жыл бұрын
That wasn't too complicated. It took some time. Then I played it for a while and fine tuned it. With GR-55 if the pickup was fixed with a tape it can move. And that may require calibration again.
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