Mayflower Assault Plate Carrier (APC)

Read more on my Mayflower APC setup at: www.ocabj.net/mini-review-mayf...
Mayflower APC with Haley Strategic D3 Chest Rig (D3CR) and BulletProofMe Ceramic Level IV Standalone Large SAPI plates.

[@subradiant_music]

Just bought this carrier before seeing the video. I am so happy to know based on all my research it is right up there with the big leaguers of carriers like Ferro, Spiritus, First Spear ect.

[@rustyshackleford17]

I never knew why nutn was such a weight weenie until I wore these level 4 standalones all day "holy shit this sucks" doesn't begin to describe it.

[@JeremyF092695]

+Rusty Shackleford Thought the same thing then I did pullups with a 15 lb weight vest HOLY FUCK does it suck!

[@mrtimjitsu]

shit... just run a mile, record your time and then run a mile with just 1/2lb ankle weights. It's amazing what just an extra 8 oz on each leg does lol.

[@OrganikSecrets]

Thanks for the video man, was looking for some info on the sizing of these and this is exactly what I was looking for.

[@watchalotta1]

Everyone says what they have, but no one says what size they are. Thank you for doing that.

[@MThrow]

Just ran across this video, very well done. Clear, concise, and well spoken, you should have more subscribers. Liking and subbing.

[@squrrel69]

For anyone wondering (like I was) this fits the helikon- tex chest rigs as well!

[@yoohoonobody2833]

Nice setup man👍 Thanks for the fitment info as well, very helpful.

[@dougtaylor7724]

Thanks for going into detail on the fit of the rig. Many of use are kind of in the middle. I’m tall and thin with a 40 chest. I was thinking about the Large but have rethought the fit. Thanks!

[@lunchboxbandits]

Bro, you have an awesome set up.

[@Jnb21]

This is a great review. Great info people want to know. Thanks

[@homevalueglass3809]

Right on bro, I'm looking for a way to do a full load out with a plate carrier like that. I see some guys have their holster horizontal at the chest. Looks good, thanks.

[@havenlewis5913]

Never seen your page before but I just subbed. Nice informative video and good shooting at the end too.

[@kalanipitmon7817]

Im 5'7 on a good day, and 150-155. Im wearing 10x12 lvl 4 swimmer cuta and they fit me pretty good, nice full coverage.

[@blackphosphor]

I'm 5'3" and been looking at he mayflower APC also. This video is exactly what I was looking for. My waist is a 30 and will end up running side plates. Hope it works out.

[@kyl64]

blackphosphor I also recommend looking velocity plate carrier... both companies (velocity and mayflower) run the same specs, different format or configuration. I'm 5'4", 31" waist, 36" chest. The Small/Medium is "perfect" because the side straps can overlap for a snug fit.

[@blackphosphor]

+kyl64 thanks kyl64. Will definitely check that out!

[@CircadianCitizen5]

Great review man. Thanks! Mirin

[@Lenmorey]

Looks perfect

[@KevinJohn556]

Anyone know if the PIG UCR will connect to the mayflower?

[@tylersimplot13]

you should be able to fit the next size sapi plate up because the it has to fit an esapi of the size. so a medium should fit a large but not a large esapi, make sense

[@truebluenc7688]

Thanks so much for the video! :) Very helpful.

[@jdwojda]

any thoughts on how using a kangaroo pouch mag carrier will work w/ donning/doffing the vest using the method you demonstrate in the video?

[@ashfaqshah4518]

I am really sorry about my misunderstanding but how will you attach the side swift clips to the 5.56 placard & plate carrier ??

[@andrewrhodes7177]

Just subscribed!! Hope to see more videos

[@aarhasful]

Great video bro

[@theguuchful]

Great video as always. You keep making me spend money. How is the Mayflower holding up?

[@ocabj]

No issues thus far.

[@LegendExpressProject]

Great video!

[@alfonsomartinez1984]

Thanks for posting up the video. Us lil guys need to stick together. ;)

[@Bushy556]

What brand belt is that?

[@AKTHUMBGRIPS]

How much was the carrier?

[@EduardoGomez-bd1us]

Where can I buy this?

[@hvyduty1220]

Looks perfect......

[@austinsowers8993]

Does the apc c

[@jordanjorge959]

Does it have nsn?

[@andrel2871]

Very nice video Jonathan, the only problem is that we dont find D3 CR anymore. Would you recommend another option? Thank you and looking forward. Andre

[@ocabj]

As far as I know, the D3CRX is the same dimensions as the D3CR. Check with Haley Strategic.

[@douglaslitton630]

Good info. Thanks .

[@t2bt2b]

Jonathan, excellent review. Informative, clear, concise. Many thanks. I have a few questions if you wouldn't mind. I'm older, but not totally out of shape. Likely a 41-42" chest and a 31" waist. Oh, and I'm 5'10". Seems I should get the same size as yours but thought I'd check. Also, what brand/model of plates are you using, would you recommend them or another vendor and why did you pass on side plates? Again, many thanks. T

[@ocabj]

t2bt2b I went with bulletproofme.com Level IV ceramic for the plates, and to be honest, I probably would have went with ar500armor.com (they have Level IV ceramic) instead, but they have some long lead times (8-12 weeks to ship). I think you can run medium or large SAPI just fine. As far as passing on side plates, I don't know. I guess it's more about mobility. Granted, saying that, I probably could have just gotten a Crye JPC instead of the Mayflower APC.

[@t2bt2b]

***** Thanks for the quick response. Just to check, despite the two of us having different heights, the rest of us seem proportioned about the same. So should I assume that I should order the same size as the one you have. I don't have a big frame so I tend to buy on the smaller size. Thx again.

[@frankvalente339]

quick question for ya. if i ran a similar set up but with side plates. should i use a high drop leg holster or a regular best holster. do u the the belt holster would clear the rig with side plates

[@ocabj]

+Frank Valente I'm actually going to buy a drop offset holster for use with the APC. I can get away with a standard holster without too many issues, but for less chance of restrictive movement, I'm going to get a G-Code drop offset or the MULE rig.

[@frankvalente339]

sounds good man i appreciate it

[@helioscomis3732]

get a mid rise holster.

[@beeradg89]

i have a quick question about this carrier because i have narrowed it down to either a 6094 or an , and i was wondering that if i clip on a UW gen 4 rig will i still be able to use the kangeroo pouch or will the clips get in the way?

[@ocabj]

bradley geremia I believe you will have limited access to the kangaroo pouch because of the swift clips.

[@jakemccollum5815]

What are you using to hold your rifle/mic mag pouches on your belt? Looks like some kind of dropped/offset setup.

[@ocabj]

They are HSGI TACOs attached to a Raven Concealment Moduloader Frame System.

[@alphabeard6604]

good review! WHAT KIND OF WATCH IS THAT?

[@ocabj]

+AlphaBeard Casio G-Shock GW9400-3 Rangeman

[@austinsowers8993]

Does the apc come with those side clips already? I just ordered the may flower apc

[@ocabj]

I don't know about now, but back when I bought mine, it did not come with the side clips. Those were a separate purchase from Velocity Systems.

[@Houdinii1212]

what size are the large plates hes talking about? im asuming it will fit 10x12 steel plates.

[@ocabj]

Houdinii1212 I'm using large SAPI plates which have the 'swimmer' cut. By definition, SAPI spec large is 10-1/8" x 13-1/4". The only problem I see with a 10x12" is if it's not swimmer cut and is an exact rectangle. I'm not sure if it will fit in the top portion of the carrier.

[@DirtyDanF117]

Where can I get those side clips? The APC doesn't look like they come with them

[@ocabj]

The side clips are made by Velocity Systems. Anyone who sells Velocity Systems stuff should have them. Try US Elite Gear.

[@ronsmith9251]

Do you find the large plates restrict movement in any way?

[@ocabj]

Not really. I don't think you're going to notice the different in an extra inch or inch and a half in either dimension.

[@TZOID08]

I have basically the same set up but I'm running Velocity Kevlar soft backers...... any reason why you skipped that ?

[@ocabj]

Adds thickness when the plates are already AP rated. I might be wrong, but I was under the assumption the soft backers are used with certain plates that are not AP rated.

[@headspace8338]

Are the shoulder straps on this carrier comfortable? Looks like they run awfully close to your neck.

[@ocabj]

+Headspace Nope. Shoulder straps are fine to me.

[@justinrichardson3349]

where did you get the side straps to secure the D3 ?

[@ocabj]

+justin richardson Same place I bought the APC from: US Elite Gear. Look for Velocity Systems Swift-Clip Kit.

[@shady75boy]

does anyone have recommendations on replacement shoulder straps? They rub my neck raw even with a high collar shirt.

[@Leviathan7.62]

Do the Velcro sides face toward your neck? If so, reverse them.

[@timmysummer7464]

I have 11x14 plates buy I got the large/xl i wonder if i should size down

[@randybranch2556]

would the haley strategic D3CRM MICRO rig work with the APC setup?

[@ocabj]

I don't know for sure. I don't own one. Based on the photos it looks like it will.

[@Whitehawkvisionfilms]

Do the shoulder straps cut into your neck? How well is the rifle mounting with the larger plates? Now that you have used it for a few years what would you change?

[@ocabj]

The larger plates don't affect rifle mounting in that smaller plates will ride at the same height. Shoulder straps aren't an issue on the neck. If I changed anything, I would ratio the plates so the back is as large as possible, and the front a size smaller. So in this case I would keep the large plate in the black and go with a medium or what not on the front. Just from a weight savings standpoint and to help a little with mobility.

[@Whitehawkvisionfilms]

Thanks

[@gtgtgtgtgt123456789]

I'm around 6'2" and weight about 275, will the L/XL fit me well?

[@ocabj]

If you're going to run a large SAPI, then get the L/XL.

[@markmartini8212]

This carrier also comes in a size L/XL I’m 5’11” and weigh 213lbs. 36” waist. What size carrier would you recommend ?

[@ocabj]

Velocity Systems (Mayflower) states that the size of the carrier dictates the size of the plates. "S/M APC fits size Small, Medium and 10"x12" sized plates up to 1.2" thick and below. L/XL APC fits Large and X-Large plates up to 1.2" thick and below", so get based on the plate size you want to run. As far as the cumberbund, you'll probably want large if not medium. I bought mine nearly 7 years ago and Velocity Systems doesn't seem to allow you to select the cumberbund size. There appear to be some dealers that allow you to specify carrier size and cumberbund size individually. Confirm with them the sizing recommendations.

[@ftk2432]

Are you using the standard 10x12 rectangular plate from Bulletproofme.com in the rear or did you get the swimmer's cut in front and back? I have the Mayflower APC in L/XL and want to know if the rectangular 10x12 plate from them will fit in the back.

[@ocabj]

I have SAPI for both front and back. I have no clue about the 10x12.

[@ftk2432]

Just a FYI for other viewers, the regular rectangular rear plate from bulletproofme.com will fit in a L/XL Mayflower APC. My plates came today and it fits fine.

[@siege2928]

Thoughts on APC v PIG v any other PCs for smaller gentlemen?

[@siege2928]

For reference I'm 5'5 145

[@andychanny]

would your carrier accommodate 1" thick armor do you know?

[@ocabj]

It should, but the thickness of the plates will affect the SAPI plate dimensions you can run. I was able to fit large SAPI .75" thick in this carrier, but large SAPI 1" thick most likely will NOT fit. medium SAPI 1" will probably fit though.

[@factsoverfeelings5833]

Where online do you recommend I buy one? Thanks in advance.

[@ocabj]

Try www.us-elitegear.com/

[@TheDriver2118]

where did you get the side clips for securing the D3?

[@ocabj]

TheDriver2118 The side clips are known as Swift clips and are actually made by Velocity Systems. Just google for Swift Clips and you should be able to find a vendor. I bought mine from US Elite Gear, IIRC, but plenty of places carry them.

[@Sveinn1984]

@@ocabj I was about to ask this question, thanks for answering.

[@mensvarswim2690]

Do plate carriers come with the magazine holders and other pockets or do they only come with the plate carrier itself, like do you have to set it up yourself? Is the plate included?

[@ocabj]

It depends on the plate carrier. They vary in design. As far as plates, usually those are sold separately since they are controlled items.

[@mensvarswim2690]

Jonathan Ocab Thanks. Does the Mayflower come with the pockets?

[@ocabj]

It has a pocket, that you can shove mags into, but I wouldn't use it. I would buy some other pouch attachment, just like I mentioned in the video and my written review.

[@stephenbaintonjr2718]

will soft armor fit behind 10x12 level 3 shooters cut plates with this carrier? Thanks.

[@ocabj]

Most likely. I don't know for sure. Never tried. But it should work with 10x12 assuming the plate isn't thicker than average.

[@stephenbaintonjr2718]

Jonathan Ocab mine are steel, like half the thickness of yours so it should work. they are the 10×12 level 3 from ar500.

[@andychanny]

I've noticed the Mayflower APC only has the three strips of Velcro on the front panel. how secure is the placard on the front panel during movement? I am about to buy a Mayflower APC and the Haley Strategic D3 Chest Rig and it seems like the placard is going to have a hard time staying secured to the front panel even though it has the swift clips.

[@ocabj]

+andychanny It's fine. The hook and loop is strong. But if it concerns you, then you should the side clips, as HSP recommends. Frankly, I stopped using the side clips because the hook and loop is strong enough and I keep the hook and loop clean. If you use your kit in the field, then run the slide clips for extra security in the event mud gets in between the D3CR and the APC and you're not able to clean it while on patrol or what not.

[@andychanny]

***** Perfect! That is what I was wondering! I intended on using the clips. This has just been weighing on my mind ever since I decided to go with Mayflower. I was literally just a mouse click away from getting the Velocity System Light Weight PC but I really want to attach the Haley Flat Pack to the Molle on the back of the Mayflower. I didn't think the flat pack would stay put if I ran it off the VelSys LWPC due to it only being secured by the clips. Do you have an opinion about that?

[@ocabj]

+andychanny I can't weigh in on the Velocity Systems compatibility with the Flatpack since I have not seen one in person. Images on the web don't look too encouraging, though.

[@andychanny]

***** well, I am thinking although the VelSys LWPC is great for going slick for quickly concealing your PC the Molle on the back of the Mayflower is what is making me lean that way. Thanks for the great video that was very clear and simple. And thanks for answering my question about the front panel.

[@brandonbennett7865]

What is the hook and loop on the back of the chest rig? Been looking for stuff online and cant seem to find anything. And will the clips that come on the chest rig work natively with the apc or so they need changed?

[@ocabj]

The hook on the back of the HSP D3CR? If your plate carrier front has loop, it will interface with that. The APC has loop on the PALS webbing on the front. The clips work with the APC. This video was made back in 2015, so it's been a long time so I can't find the references, but HSP specifically cited the APC as one of the plate carriers the D3CR would connect to. I haven't looked at current production Mayflower APCs or HSP D3CRs, so you'll want to go check based on current production designs as things may have changed in the past 7 years.

[@brandonbennett7865]

@@ocabj alright, I didnt even notice that the video was made so long ago. I'll definitely need to check up on it and the rig I would be using is the D3CRM so it's a little different from the one you used. I'll try to find more info on them

[@deemooutdoorvlogs4024]

My APC didn't come with the side clips, did you have to add those separately?

[@ocabj]

Unfortunately, yes, the side-clips are a separate purchase.

[@deemooutdoorvlogs4024]

Ok perfect I just wanted to make sure that I didn't miss something. I found them online and already ordered them, thanks!

[@3lesproductions588]

I am about 5'5 and pretty thin(still growing/12years) and I play airsoft, would the small fit me?

[@ocabj]

3LesProductions Yes.

[@kyl64]

3LesProductions Just a word of advice, if you're running plates this young, you should go for a shooter's cut. As you get older and get a belly (for many various assortment of reasons), I would suggest gettign the "multicut" as it contours a belly sticking out..... like mine..... T_T

[@austinsowers8993]

kyl64 or you can just stay in shape and not look like a typical Nra member

[@tylerehrig6722]

How do you like the D3? See a lot of dudes running that but it looks like a lot of stuff and very thick and cumbersome to be running on the front of a carrier.

[@ocabj]

I think the D3 is cool. It is easy to put on and take off when combined with a compatible plate carrier like the Mayflower APC. I don't like the D3 by itself with the just the included harness.

[@tylerehrig6722]

@@ocabj Ya im not a fan of chest rigs, whole point of running gear up there is also protection so why go minimal and run no armor. Does the thickness of eberything on the D3 being double stacker ever effect prone shooting or get heavy? Im debating a systen like that or similar VS just running a tripple riffle taco pouch on the fron of my carrier

[@ocabj]

@@tylerehrig6722 Prone position will be altered, but depending on your build, you should be able to still shoot from a prone position without too much detriment to the stability of the position.

[@butterandjellymytoes]

I got the "large cummerbund" and its ridiculously tight. Pretty sure they sent me the wrong size.

[@mrtimjitsu]

Why do you de-shoulder the rifle when you are scanning? The point of scanning is to confirm that there are no more threats. Once there are no more threats then de-shoulder. But even then why rotate and put the butt over your shoulder and 4 inches behind your head? All that does is create more distance to travel to re-shoulder the rifle. I'm not picking on you, this is just one of what seems like hundreds of videos where I see people doing this. It may look cool but it just doesn't seem practical. But hey to each their own i guess...

[@tampablackwing]

lets just call it what it is, tactical douchery

[@RomeoSantiago8541]

Zack Sobel lol, good one an I agree

[@RomeoSantiago8541]

mrtimjitsu I see this crap everywhere now a days. It's a ridiculous technique that is being taught to a lot of people. I'm not sure where this came from either. Same thing with pistols where after they break their last shot, the shooter quickly pulls the gun back and snaps his head side to side as if he is scanning. I've held a set of fingers on the peripherals of shooters I've seen doing this. None where ever able to tell me how many fingers I had up.

[@tampablackwing]

Romeo Santiago i believe it. most ranges dont let u scan properly.. but i dont think forming a completely useless habit is the answer. the worst is sometimes i fucking do that shit pulling the pistol back in to my chest... and i look and feel retarded doing it haha

[@RomeoSantiago8541]

Zack Sobel lmao, well Zack pulling the gun to your chest is not necessarily a bad thing. What I meant was when shooters snap that pistol back like it was on a rubber band after the prescribed string of fire and not really assessing. I feel that getting the gun out of your line of sight but in a position you can re engage quickly, i.e. Chest, is a good thing. It breaks the tunnel vision thing and allows you to see a bigger picture of what's in front and around you

[@AyeMane117]

Noticed the shoulder pads are riding on your neck does it hurt after a while?

[@ocabj]

Negative. No apparent chafing.

[@AyeMane117]

@@ocabj thanks bro I literally just ordered mine

[@ErikAnger]

Can you fit 6x8 side plates?

[@ocabj]

I have not run side plates, but I know that 6x8" will be too tall for the cummerbund. 6x6" is what you'll need to run for it to fit correctly.

[@KingOfBattle119]

Is there anything available from Mayflower to fit the 6x8's?

[@ocabj]

I don't think Mayflower actually makes armor. You'll want to check Velocity Systems, who recently acquired Mayflower. They sell armor that fits.

[@KingOfBattle119]

You were totally right. The small must be absolutely tiny. I got the medium and I couldn't imagine getting a smaller size. Thanks for the tip, I would have bought the wrong size if it weren't for this video.

[@ocabj]

[@gart.milsim1386]

I'm about 5'1" will this fit me if not what would you recommend

[@illduitmyself]

+InfamyAirsoft thsi would fit you. smallest they make

[@gart.milsim1386]

+Rick Rabies ok thanks

[@Disruptive088]

What size would you suggest for a 6.5" dude with a 36" waist?

[@ocabj]

I honestly can't say. You're going to have to go off plate size. Odds are you're going to need to run the large SAPI, if not larger, considering you're well over 6 feet tall. You can get away with the S/M (with maybe the medium cummerbund) assuming the whatever large SAPI you get will fit in it, but you might be better served with the L/XL.

[@Disruptive088]

+Jonathan Ocab cool thanks!

[@Alex_Baas]

11x14 is what i run and i am 6'7 waist shouldnt matter because the plate shouldn't be near your waist.(flexibility and mobility) i know a green beret that runs smaller plates than normal because he likes the mobility so it is personal preference. For a good idea measure 1 inch above belly button to the top of your sternum then nipple to nipple. mine was 12x18 but 11x14 covers my vitals ;)

[@aarondesch]

Aren't SAPI supposed to be used ICW soft armor?

[@irelandgunner9511]

Plates? Soft? Lol

[@aarondesch]

@@irelandgunner9511 SAPI plates require soft armor backers to be level 4

[@irelandgunner9511]

@@aarondesch that's called a trauma pad and that's not how that works.

[@aarondesch]

@@irelandgunner9511 everything I was issued was SAPI to be used In Conjunction With (ICW) soft armor like a flak jacket. The plates I use now are also SAPI ICW and soft armor panels designed to be used as lvl4 backers

[@irelandgunner9511]

@@aarondesch the "soft backer" is a TRAUMA PAD not soft armor, and flak jackets aren't bulletproof so it wouldn't add any resistance. The plate is lvl4 and you add a trauma pad so your ribs don't shatter

[@brandonknox5093]

Where did you get the side clips from

[@ocabj]

At the time, they were made by Velocity Systems ("Swift Clips"). I'm pretty sure they still make them.

[@brandonknox5093]

Thanks for the info

[@dinodini547]

Hi,i am 172 cm per 68 kg...Levis size 33... Do u think small cummerband Is ok for me or Better m?

[@ocabj]

Get the medium cummerbund. If it's too big, you can still overlap the excess. If small is too small, then you're stuck.

[@dinodini547]

@@ocabj wich size are u?

[@ocabj]

@@dinodini547 I indicated my sizing and initial reasoning here - www.ocabj.net/mini-review-mayflower-assault-plate-carrier/ I went small cummerbund, but I recommend getting the medium cummerbund.

[@samdelaet3587]

So what do you tell people when they ask why you have this as a civilian? I'm looking for an educated response to give instead of "because America"....for me its to hold my D3CR of course.

[@ocabj]

+Samuel Delaet I've actually been bringing my plates to the office ever since a long time employee was terminated out of the blue. A few people asked me why I have a "flak jacket" (they're words, not mine) and I specifically said, "because shit might happen."

[@samdelaet3587]

+Jonathan Ocab If shit can happen it will happen. Thanks for the reply!

[@xXSgtWolfXx]

Jonathan Ocab Wow, you're a wacker.

[@moderncrusader9882]

What is the material that is used

[@ocabj]

It's not declared on the Velocity Systems (Mayflower) website. But I will guess it is Cordura.

[@moderncrusader9882]

@@ocabj thanksss

[@filipinophreak]

what watch do u have ?

[@ocabj]

+Warren Albuna Casio G-Shock GW9400-3 Rangeman

[@filipinophreak]

+Jonathan Ocab thank you. u have a good channel

[@MaiaCoimbra]

very nice but you should use a drop leg holster because in at a specific moment your sidearm will be stuck in the lateral of the chest plate well this is just a thought ;)

[@MK-tg1hx]

+Maia Coimbra Drop legs are usually nasty

[@spoke1183]

Straps are crap way to wide.

[@zexnynex777]

Everyone- cut off your kangaroo pouches. They make GREAT flat pack pouches after you do.

[@monkeyboy8me]

none are ever in stock

[@ocabj]

Before pandemic, these were readily available. Probably have to wait for supply chain.

[@Masta_E]

Praise the maker, it's not an airsofter review.

[@papawanker1554]

Punchable face

[@NA-qu7cw]

first 10 seconds of the video... completely incorrect on sizes of the carrier and whit it will fit.. great "review" skills.