Mbappe and Haaland vs. Messi and Ronaldo

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Can Haaland & Mbappe Overtake Messi Or Ronaldo?

[@FootballMadeSimple]

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[@N.mad_01]

All fun until both turn 25 and compete with messis 91 goals season 💀

[@lunaworld6503]

63 tapings ! about 9 penalties

[@miguelfragoso7023]

Wasn’t in a season …

[@akmaz45]

​@@miguelfragoso7023 yeah right it was a calendar year. Which haaland and mbappe didn't managed to score more than a 38 years Ronaldo, but a 91 goals calender year is teachable for this 2 right ?

[@yato2245-d1n]

@@lunaworld6503 lol thats what made penaldo and haalands career

[@ayo_what9172]

@@lunaworld6503 typical ronaldo fan talking about pens when ronaldo had more penalty conversion rate that year then messi

[@Lotschi]

Amazing video! It shows quite well how athletes tend to peak way earlier in their carrier, not only in football but aswell in cycling, tennis, swimming etc.

[@ZtkW816]

Maybe they can have the same longevity as Ronaldo and Messi, but nobody will reach the level of Messi at his peak

[@aregul12]

Facts, people forget not only does messi have the most golden boots in history he also has the most assist and playmaker awards, take away half his goals and no one is touching those levels

[@meks1478]

@@aregul12 Who has the most assists in the champions league the toughest tournament in the world?

[@aregul12]

@@meks1478 I promise you you haven't seen all of those assists lmao, not to mention suarez has more career assists than Cr7 while having played for one of the shittiest liverpool teams ever. Ronaldo is not even a better playmaker than Di Maria

[@meks1478]

@@aregul12 Your last sentence gives me the impression that you didn't watch the whole first half of Ronaldo's career.

[@aregul12]

@@meks1478 I watched his entire career. Messi’s record for through balls in a year is 70, Ronaldo’s isn’t even half of that. I’ve also seen every assist he’s given in the UCL. He was a good playmaker at his peak but he didnt’ sustain that throughout his entire career, and no 5 extra assists when he’s played more games in the UCL than messi while creating far less chances does not make him a better playmaker. He’s a good one, not a great one.

[@RTV-w2c]

No one can overtake them. Mbappe and Haaland are still very young, it will be interesting to see if they still put out numbers in their 30s like messi and ronaldo did(and still does). Another thing is they were much more than just stats.

[@wamnicho]

Halaand is young but not mbappe, mbappe will be 26 this year, that’s already prime age

[@gabrielalohan728]

I think they're great talents irrespective of the perceived weaknesses which can always be counter-argued; but greatness comes with consistency and I'm not sure they can be, but time will tell.

[@44nkk]

If Mbappe had better PR he would be rightfully regarded as one of the best footballers this world has ever seen. He's accomplished more individually at 25 than Messi and Ronaldo did at that age yet people talk about him as if he is a 3rd rate talent. Hell even at 19 years of age he outdid Messis and Ronaldos international careers at 25.

[@acacia8261]

@@44nkk if mbappe is as good as you say than good pr will come to him automatically

[@44nkk]

​@@acacia8261 Since when has the reality ever mattered when it comes to narratives?

[@gabrielalohan728]

@@44nkk Well good PR comes with a perceived better league and a UCL title. Now while, individually he's out shined them at those ages, he's still a third rate talent to them. How we all perceive and define skill differ, but I don't think he's as skilled as those two who had this X-factor aura about them, ALWAYS. That's where consistency comes in and is he as consistent?

[@acacia8261]

@@44nkk since people stop being delusional

[@lemarmessih10]

I don't know what the debate is all about You just watch Messi and Ronaldo and you watch mbappe and haaland,big difference How Messi and Ronaldo played was insane Mbappe may come close but haaland? NO

[@salmonmaster5608]

That last statement regarding their peaks was so on point and pretty much explains messi and ronaldos greatness

[@hamouda007]

Messi and Ronaldo at their age won multiple champion leagues and few ballon d'or already!

[@mebanpynsuklyngdoh2929]

Honestly Ronaldo and Messi hardly had a bad season or a dipp in their form ......Legends they came they saw they conquered ❤❤❤❤❤

[@freakerfaker3711]

No and I still stand with "back then players were much more tougher to beat than some players today" I just gonna enjoy what both did, but never thought them at the level of Messi and Cristiano...not even close

[@prince101ist]

Agree with ur breakdown for the most apart . Also they would all start slow if they started in the prem

[@ModernFootball866]

Messi in his 5th best season (10/11, 11/12, 12/13, 14/15, 18/19) was a better player than CR7, Mbappe, and Haaland in their best season - that says it all and proves that Messi stands above all of them. As long as none of them reach this level, no one will surpass him, regardless of how long they play

[@el_gringo9211]

Both are world class players but nobody can reach the level of cr7 and messi

[@MelonHusk7]

It will be a tough job to outlast Ronaldo. Man is still banging goals left, right and centre at 39.

[@youngtrendsetteryts4503]

Typical Indian Madrid Ryder. Always upping his age to make him seem older. No one cares what he scores in 66th ranked league.

[@MelonHusk7]

@@youngtrendsetteryts4503 subtract his Saudi goals and then please do let me know how many are there remaining?

[@ErnoAlias]

No. Messi and Ronaldo are the best ever. Mbappe and Haaland can be Mbappe and Haaland. In addition, there are other names out there at the moment, of which one name in particular amazes me, when he starts to score more, he is the best player in the world.

[@44nkk]

Why are Messi and Ronaldo the best ever? And why couldn't Mbappe overtake them?

[@omarchennaoui5187]

Maradona and Pele are clear of Ronaldo.

[@rohanpreetsingh4862]

@@omarchennaoui5187how so?

[@acacia8261]

@@44nkk mbappe could but doesn't seem to be in the right course at the moment

[@TheRealDarth_Vader]

​@@acacia8261 i havent seen Mbappe produce what cr7 did at Man u and its not just stats he was wonderful to watch i dont get that with Mbappe even cr7 early seasons with Madrid he could still do multiple things in the game before he became a striker.

[@adidevchafle]

Mbappe has already surpassed International legacy of ronaldo and messi at the age of 24.Argue with your wall.

[@nenemuy]

He’s arguably the best French player of all time when it comes to international performances. Only Platini and Zidane rival him right now.

[@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633]

I don't believe this. Pple overrate Mbappe like crazy. I saw him miss most of Messi's pinpoint passes, miss penalties, sky sitters. You don't watch Mbappe regularly.

[@idrc9938]

​@@nenemuygriezman too

[@rowancarreira2826]

Its already too late for both of them

[@Tony_Sab]

Mbappe lacks the discipline that Messi and Ronaldo have.Also he doesn't seem to have the same evolution than Messi and Ronaldo do yes he started of strong but Ronaldo and Messi increased their goal contributions by a lot he also would not be nowhere near the same player without his speed and that's pretty obvious his technique is not near the other too.Also the game has become more goal centric so the goal stats are way more inflated

[@BKoyuncu85]

im just here to point that the GOAT status kept longest is by Ronaldo on this scale and it is indeed a fact . dont @ me (love messi too huge respect) had the pleasure of watching both legends against each other both in barcelona and madrid 1 year after another in which the one in barcelona at camp nou was the "calma" match by the GOAT Ronaldo.

[@Allan_TBD5527]

NO

[@gentleken7864]

Who cares. Why does football always have to be about the best? And endless pointless debates about who is the best. Michael Owen for all his faults was right, footballers now are just athletes. A couple of decades ago, we had pure footballers, who had talent. Footballers with skills, who were ballers. Decades ago we could enjoy players like Le Tissier and Bergkamp, who were a joy to watch. They probably wouldn't be lauded the same now. Now it's just numbers, statistics and athletes. Football has been ruined.

[@dc6521]

not even if they played football til they're 100

[@jonnstewart2023]

I wouldnt have haaland in 22/23 seaspn above 08 ronaldo, to me it's comparable in terms of achievements and statistics but just as a player ronnie clears him, but ofc we all know messi is the best among them all

[@Barcaholiic]

I hate this. Why do people act like Messi and Ronaldo are on the same level? Messi so obviously better …

[@qhasz9950]

haaland scores more in his career rather than ronaldo, but mbappe doesnt compare to messi

[@assalamualaikum6217]

Halland is the best striker. Ronaldo and mbappe best winger but messi the best footballers, he can be a playmaker too. Which is mbappe halland n ronaldo didn’t

[@99BullD]

This video is filled with so much errors it's actually appalling 🤢 Messi didn't win the champions league and finish "2nd in Balond'or", get your facts straight.

[@buildabankworkshopsinfinit5817]

Where is Kevin DeBruyne??? Haaland 2nd best in his own twam.

[@devanman7920]

Neither will get near to either of them

[@username2168]

They won't even get near them

[@dondamon4669]

What a ridiculous way to judge players 😂 kind of what a 14 yr old would do! Complete nonsense

[@amarevanhook7453]

Mbappe is ridiculous man

[@godz4681]

Ronaldo maybe but Messi no way.

[@TheAntagonistx]

NO.

[@DavidOnoja-p9r]

Your analysis is very wrong

[@nenemuy]

Mbappe was undoubtedly a wonderkid. Seriously rivals R9 in that regard.

[@acacia8261]

he's already nearly 25

[@nenemuy]

@@acacia8261 1. He is 25. 2. I said that he “was undoubtedly a wonderkid”. This is simple English, I don’t know what else to say.

[@acacia8261]

@@nenemuy you did?

[@nenemuy]

@@acacia8261Reread my comment, Mbappe is arguably one of the best wonderkids the sport has ever seen.

[@acacia8261]

@@nenemuy yeah you did lol

[@estif7011]

I think mbappe can

[@xavi239]

an amzing video

[@PhantomFroggy]

ronaldo better

[@darrpow7286]

Naahh

[@bahaadeenal-ees1488]

Absolutely not, but they can achieve their Goal record if they play long enough considering how young they started to score well

[@tibododo]

Haaland, no way. He's a talented scoarer but that's not enough. Mbappé, very unikely, but h'e's more qualified.

[@craziewill]

Without watching the full video I am sure they won't... also it won't be Mbappe / Haaland but Mbappe / Vini Jr.. Haaland is a great goal scorer but offered VERY little and can't win the game by himself..

[@Chip_Fuse]

Throw Jude Bellingham into that list as well. In fact, there are so many good players now that it is unfair to encapsulate this generation of footballers into just 2 players.

[@mdarwisym]

I can see haaland being the most lethal striker in history if he continues doing what he does, that said he might never surpass either messi or ronaldo.

[@120rikeshlawoju8]

Also he does not have the eye test factor

[@boereherp8705]

@@120rikeshlawoju8 ? eye test factor?

[@pauliyonas3576]

​@@acacia8261mbappe is not boring to watch

[@boereherp8705]

@@acacia8261 reading your lame comment was boring too,

[@boereherp8705]

@@acacia8261 and again

[@Daddy_Parrot]

Short answer: it's much too late for them to do that Longer answer: surpassing Messi/Ronaldo has something more to do than just stats and trophies. They would have to display performances comparable to their best seasons (like they did in 2018 for Mbappé, 2023 for Haaland) for 10+ years straight, while setting an inhuman gap between them and the rest of the still-active best players of their era. (Oh and Mbappé still plays in a weaker Ligue 1 so there's that)

[@ModernFootball866]

I think the best way to compare players is to compare their best seasons. Messi in his 5th best season (10/11, 11/12, 12/13, 14/15, 18/19) was a better player than CR7, Haaland and Mbappe in their best season, which speaks volumes. I think they can compete with the longevity and overall numbers, but nobody will reach the same level as Messi at his peak

[@Chip_Fuse]

Yep. Footballers start as early as 16-17. Mbappe is leading against Haaland right now, but he's nearing 25 and he's still at PSG. Haaland has some time to catch up, but he's missing quite some games with injuries lately. Both of them have something against them. Remember, this comparison is solely between Haaland and Mbappe. There are obviously many good footballers around, like Jude, Vini, Musiala, Rodrygo...

[@PaddyMac]

Exactly. Eye test. Plain and simple. That’s the separating factor. Ronaldo entertained with presence and skill. Messi just made your jaw drop. Mbappe has a chance but he’s all about pace, which will fade. Haaland fails the eye test completely. Statistically he’ll be up there, but football is watched with the eyes, and not looked at on paper

[@PaddyMac]

Exactly. Eye test. Plain and simple. That’s the separating factor. Ronaldo entertained with presence and skill. Messi just made your jaw drop. Mbappe has a chance but he’s all about pace, which will fade. Haaland fails the eye test completely. Statistically he’ll be up there, but football is watched with the eyes, and not looked at on paper

[@44nkk]

@@PaddyMac Ronaldo is a considerably worse dribbler than Mbappe (including young Ronaldo) and the older he got watching him on the ball was an eye sore. I find the way Mbappe plays a million times more exciting and entertaining than Messi, in fact, football's never seen a player with his athletic and technical capabilities.

[@MJ-27]

If Mbappe and Haaland want to reach cr7 and Messi levels. They gotta be consistent for 13 -15 yrs. Imagine being consistent for 15 year's thats amazing

[@THEoneandonlystika]

Not messi maybe ronaldo because the only thing that ronaldo is famous for is many goals.Messi is different level

[@ModernFootball866]

Playing for a long time doesn't make you a better player, it just makes your career more successful. If you want to be the best, you have to reach the highest level and the best way to compare players is comparing their best seasons, bcs then you can see how high the level was that a player has reached. Until now, Messi in his 5th best season (10/11, 11/12, 12/13, 14/15, 18/19) was a better player than CR7, Mbappe and Haaland in their best season if you look at the average performance level p90. Until no one reaches this level, no one will be able to call themselves a better player, regardless of how long a player plays.

[@Coach-rq6jx]

Exactly. Ronaldo made his debut in 2002. 21 years later, he's the topscorer in the world for 2023. That's not easy at all. It requires the best of the best in terms of mentality.

[@Coach-rq6jx]

That being said, I am excited for the next generation of footballers. Bring it on, people are gonna love it anyway.

[@ModernFootball866]

@@Coach-rq6jx That's a great achievment and one of the reasons why CR7 is the 2nd best player of his era. The guy is an absolute legend, but a little bit unlucky to play in the same era as Messi

[@CoolClipz]

They lack the jaw dropping effect and unless mbappe goes to Madrid or Liverpool I don't see him overtaking lewandowski to begin with

[@44nkk]

You think Ronaldo has the "jaw dropping effect" but Mbappe doesnt?🤣🤣🤣

[@Coach-rq6jx]

Of course, Mbappe right now is limited.

[@rogeliochavez40]

​@@44nkkYes, Ronaldo had that effect for like 12 years straight. Messi might be clearly and I mean CLEARLY better but that doesn't take away the fact that CR7 was also an all time great player and showman

[@44nkk]

@@rogeliochavez40 Why does Ronaldo have that effect but Mbappe doesnt?

[@cyn1clcynide]

​@@rogeliochavez40don't answer it, it's a troll who wants attention

[@galaxyknight7309]

You can always tell if someone's ball knowledge is low when they say Ronaldo can't dribble or hes just a poacher and that he doesn't produce moments of magic. Ronaldo between 06/07 to 09/10 was a top 5 or top 3 dribbler in the world. And between 10/11 to 13/14 he was a top 5 to top 10 dribbler in the world. And Ronaldo has always preformed amazing tricks and flicks and skills. You only know the Ronaldo after his knee injury and after he changed his game due to age and the knee injury and became a box player.

[@davispaul2279]

True

[@m3ga975]

lmao are you trying to say Football made simple has low ball knowledge gtho 😂😂😂😂

[@TheRealDarth_Vader]

@@m3ga975 cr7 factually is not just a great goalscorer though that's his best trait

[@superuser1729]

Even before injury his dribbling skills never reached that level of Messi's, if we talk about only dribbling , messi without argument is greatest dribbler. R9 had better dribbling than Cristiano.

[@galaxyknight7309]

@@superuser1729 Did I say that though learn how to read no one mentioned Messi

[@md19974]

An excellent video as always. How about a video on an issue of the modern game? There is a dearth of tricky and pacy wingers who can take on defenders. Nobody wants to dribble anymore. This has sucked out moments of awe and magic from the game.

[@Coach-rq6jx]

This is a problem mostly the English Premier League faces. The other leagues fare much better in that aspect.

[@thabisosamsam6779]

Nope both are nowhere near Ronaldo or Messi

[@ilikesports9600]

Mbappe is just as good as Ronaldo

[@44nkk]

Could you please explain why Mbappe is "nowhere near" them?

[@H3NR10S]

@@44nkk have you seen Messi??

[@44nkk]

@@H3NR10S Yeah. I've seen him underperform for Barcelona in the CL and Argentina countless times throughout his career, what about him?

[@H3NR10S]

@@44nkk is there a player that has never underperformed in his career at some point Think

[@omarchennaoui5187]

You forgot about Mbappe's 2017-18 season where he is supposed to be 19. He netted 13 goals and had 7 assists in 27 Ligue 1 games. Instead you took the number of the 2018-19 where he is 20 years old so that skews your comparisons for the rest of the video. Do, Mbappe is constantly one year older than the rest in this video.

[@e.l.b6435]

This

[@wahomewaritho8051]

overtake them in what terms?? CR7 dedication to the game and how he took care of himself will never be matched,,, on his part, Messi is an abnormality that will take more than a decade to reappear. Haaland will go down as one of the top strikers while mbappe will be one of the great players. Messi and Cr7 levels are unreachable

[@Coach-rq6jx]

Wise answer. We never thought Maradona won't happen again, but then came Messi. Certainly, someone even better than them both would come along, and that's the beauty of the sport.

[@nikhilkay1]

@@Coach-rq6jx Even Argentinians wouldn't say Messi is better than Maradona.

[@AbedCruz]

@@Coach-rq6jx Messi is an absolute abnormality. Such a player shouldn't exist at all. He's way better than Maradona.There'll be no one like him in this sport. No player falls into more than 2 different main attributes of a well rounded player as the greatest or one of top 3 but Messi. Passing, assisting, playmaking, goalscoring, dribbling etc... Messi easily falls into at least top 3 of all those attributes in the history of football. Yes, it's possible to see another player with one or two of those attributes better than Messi. But no player with all those packages combined with a high and pecfect efficiency better than Messi will come along. As well as being much similar to Maradona when it comes to magic, Messi has more than the double of goals and assists recorded by Maradona. And to cap it all, Messi's longevity and consistency speak for themselves. No player like Messi(let alone better than him) will ever exist especially with the current trend of football where fanboys and fangirls are only obssessed with raw statistics, where pure strikers are seen better players than well-rounded players.

[@Coach-rq6jx]

@@AbedCruz I don't know about that, even the person right above you disagrees with a good point.

[@AbedCruz]

@@Coach-rq6jx "Messi isn't better than Maradona" is that you call a good point? Stop kidding yourself! Messi is similar to Maradona in the style of playing of football and the comparison stops there. He didn't get Messi's career, raw stats, titles, longevity and consistency. Messi is a highly enhanced version of Maradona in almost every aspect of the game. That's why he's the greatest of all time. I do expect to see in the future many great and much talented players that will probably call into question the GOAT debate. But Messi-like effective talent(NOT POTENTIAL) is ONCE in lifetime.

[@tomlee3562]

In terms of peaks, neither Haaland or Mbappe have reached Ronaldo 07/08 level, and at the time Messi was widely regarded as surpassing that level over the next couple of seasons

[@johnlau6749]

bro, that's bullshit. Haaland or Mbappe already surpass Messi or Ronaldo. Don't forget Messi never deserve the Ballon Dor for 3 years in a row now

[@Holyspace305]

@@johnlau6749if ballon for was fair messi should have had at least 12 ballon does by now stop the cap

[@johnlau6749]

@@Holyspace305 bro, u are also talking bullshit here

[@THEoneandonlystika]

​@@johnlau6749 messi was already the goat at their age😂

[@johnlau6749]

@@THEoneandonlystika messi's the goat because of the tactical gameplan, not himself

[@Jeff_2x]

Do I think they’ll surpass Messi and Ronaldo: NO Do I think that’s an Issue: NO People have to realize Messi and Ronaldo are once in a lifetime players, expecting the next generation to surpass just because you want to feel the void they left is asinine. Let’s just appreciate their journey and not expect to reach Messi and Ronaldo heights.

[@davispaul2279]

Exactly, not being better than Ronaldo and Messi doesn’t = bad

[@theodoricboahen8709]

Tell that to the 100 of millions of football fans who thinks so

[@omarchennaoui5187]

Mbappe has the potential to be at least as good if not better than Peak Ronaldo but he doesnt have that bit of magic one associates with the absolute greatest of the game (Messi, Diego, Pele...)

[@44nkk]

Thats because when you say magic you basically mean ball control. Mbappe offers way more than Messi in so many attacking aspects, but because he doesn't drop deep 30 times a game he doesn't have that "magic" lol.

[@Coach-rq6jx]

Lol

[@eZe00]

​​​​@@44nkkno he is right. Haaland and Mpabbe are are not even better than R9 when it comes to magic

[@44nkk]

@@eZe00 Well if you think by your made up and completely meaningless definiton of magic Mbappe isn't very good then who am I to argue

[@omarchennaoui5187]

@@44nkk not only close control (which in itself is a huge part yes) but just sheer genius when it comes to passing vision and IQ. The ability to produce moment of genius like Pele dribbling the keeper without touching the ball or Messi's pass against the Netherlands. Mbappe cant do that. The only thing he has over Messi is superior athleticism. Skill wise he is miles behind him.

[@omarchennaoui5187]

Also the way you use accolades is a bit weird. For example if you want to talk about Messi's 2008-09 season you shouldnt mention the 2008 ballon d'or but the 2009 since its the one that rewards his performance furing that season otherwise it just feels weird because you present a season where he wins the treble as the best player in the world but somehow finishes second at the Ballon d'or.

[@omarchennaoui5187]

Same thing for Ronaldo in 2007-08 He received a Ballon d'or for his 2007-08 season he didnt finish second place. I think you got confused over what metric to use, age of a player or season by season.

[@juang8360]

Doesn't matter how good people think Mbappe is... he's already wasted so many years by staying at PSG. Not to mention this GOAT thing is also a PR thing, and many fans now rightfully believe he's a money-hungry treacherous douchebag. Even if he went to a serious club today, he's already wasted too many years. He's 100% out of the race.

[@vlad6331]

No way mbappe, is a fantastic player

[@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633]

Good point.

[@jojolapatate6662]

People calling Mbappe a "money-hungry treacherous" while Messi and Cr7 have been both condemned for tax evasion. Messi did even push his club to bankruptcy.

[@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633]

My comment good point was for juang's comment. I do wish YT would put one's replies next to the comment.

[@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633]

@@jojolapatate6662Undorító hazugságot emelnek ki. Nem Messi vitte a Barcát a csődbe hanem az elnök Bartomeu. Próbáljanak igazságosak lenni, mint egy moderátornak a dolga.

[@magicmagic8188]

If you keep trying to compare current players to past ones you won’t be able to appreciate them while they’re here. Different eras have different metas and previous players will always have the boon of nostalgia. I think we should stop trying to repeat echos of the past and focus on the now

[@lionelmassey5365]

Neither mbappe or haaland are on the right path to be better than messi (at the moment, even if they carry on for 15-20 years without a dip). To compare with ronaldo we gota wait to see how many goals they get.

[@Coach-rq6jx]

Mbappe certainly has a case to be better than Messi, but he's wasting his career at PSG. I'm more invested in Jude Bellingham, he's on the right track to that particular achievement.

[@lionelmassey5365]

@Coach-rq6jx I'm English and would love to agree with Bellingham, and amazing as he is, it's not a patch on Messi. Not even close

[@Coach-rq6jx]

@@lionelmassey5365 I'm Spanish, and I disagree. The promise of quality goes way beyond and before Messi, to Zidane. He's just 20 as well. Generational.

[@ModernFootball866]

​@@Coach-rq6jxI don't think Mbappe has the potential to surprass Messi, bcs Messi in his 5th best season (10/11, 11/12, 12/13, 14/15, 18/19) was a better player than CR7, Haaland and Mbappe in their best season. I don't think Mbappe will ever reach this level

[@Coach-rq6jx]

@@ModernFootball866 Yeah man, I don't agree with anything you have said. I don't like this tone. See, that's why I said Mbappe is limited at PSG.

[@Obianuju-Nwankwo]

I'm rooting for Mbappe!!! He's destined for Greatness

[@afellownerd]

That thumbnail goes hard af

[@zeo4481]

Nope, 50+ goals and 15+ assists each year for a decade. Nether would scratch that.

[@balazspapp7283]

At age 20, Messi was 3rd in the Ballon d’Or rankings, Haaland 11th, so it’s hard to accept that Haaland was better at that age

[@ayush9534]

Bro judging on ballan dor ranking is probably the dumbest thing to exist. Its not based on stats although Messi was better at age 20

[@omarchennaoui5187]

Stathead age is the age at the start of the season, Mbappe birthfay being in December, It makes him actially one year younger than he actually is during the end of the season.

[@thecalmbeforethemaelstrom]

Anyone who says's Mbappe or Haaland can match Cristiano Ronaldo please compare the goals scored and the assists made by each player. Ronaldo has MANY goals with both his strong and non dominant foot from 25+ meters out. Cristiano's range of pass and vision (once again with both feet) also FAR exceeds the levels of Mbappe and Haaland. The final point is that Ronaldo actually tracked back and pressed heavily for the majority of his career which is something NONE of the other players in this video ever did or do now. It was only in the second half of the 15/16 season when Zidane replaced Rafa Benitez that Ronaldo was no longer required to drop back to defend (except on corners which Ronaldo tracks back for even in the twilight of his career). It's not even an argument. I don't think Mbappe and definitely not Haaland will ever come close to Ronaldo and Messi. It's not a diss to them, but the bar is just so high. I just wanted to add this because the Ronaldo disrespect is just getting out of hand at this point

[@lukelocks9083]

So glad you made this as I've always wondered their comparisions at their like for like ages. But for me, Messi is the GOAT and I just can't see anyone bettering him, ever.

[@_billy_na_fx]

The only know one is that they can be like CR7 but not messi

[@Coach-rq6jx]

Lol

[@acacia8261]

@@Coach-rq6jx mbappe might already surpass ronaldo

[@Coach-rq6jx]

Delusional @@acacia8261

[@madness1812]

@@Coach-rq6jx lol what? hes right, cope penaldo fanboy

[@lwandomadikizela2213]

If Mbappe and Haaland reach the same level or surpass Messi and Ronaldo, they have to be consistent every year and deliver when the chips are down. Many players can stay at the top for 2 years at most but Messi and Ronaldo since their debuts were at the top for a decade. That's scary.

[@PaddyMac]

I think what’s not there for them is the level of flair. Neither is as skilful as Ronaldo. They’re not as naturally good at dribbling as Messi. There’s no mystique to them yet. Mbappe’s pace will fade. There’s nothing pretty about Haaland’s style. We used to have Ronaldo R9, Ronaldinho and Zidane. The last of the entertaining generation was Neymar. Now entertainment and flair is gone from football, and I don’t think Mbappe and Haaland will have that “feel” about them when all is said and done

[@acacia8261]

i think mbappe has improved a lot in terms of flair eversince playing with neymar and messi tho. he's had some electric dribbles and skills over the past season or so but still not as techniquelly gifted as messi

[@basquiat9015]

If you watch football, you would see that none of these 3 are on Messi’s level. The guy is head and shoulders above everyone. For eg as it stands: MBappe- Excellent goal scorer, Highly skilled, Lethal finisher. Ronaldo- Excellent goal scorer(🐐), highly skilled, lethal finisher(🐐) Haalaand- Excellent goal scorer, lethal finisher. Messi- Excellent goal scorer(🐐), highly skilled, lethal finisher, excellent dribbler(🐐), Excellent playmaker(🐐)

[@THEoneandonlystika]

Nobody is like messi.Not possible.They can score or assist like cr7 but not messi.Messi does it unique

[@Coach-rq6jx]

Lol

[@rohanpreetsingh4862]

clearly u didn’t watch Ronaldo in his prime if u think he is just a goalscorer

[@ultron_oo7529]

Here comes the typical Messi fan, people agree that Messi can dribble well however there are tons of other players in history and even now who can dribble pretty well, & remember dribbling is not the only aspect of football.

[@ModernFootball866]

@@ultron_oo7529 It's not only about dribbling. It's about beeing a good goalscorer, dribbler AND playmaker at the same time and Messi is one of the best ever in every of these aspects

[@mav_3rix354]

Lets be honest Haaland scored the most goals in the prem last year but do you remember any goal as memorable because i most certainly dont, you cant compare these guys with what Messi and Ronaldo brought to the game Haaland especially does nothing for the game besides scorin goals if he doesnt play for city he is not missed it makes no difference if he is in the team or not😊

[@callous2k486]

Just a quick note, Mbappé was 20 during the 18/19 season, and he was 21 when the pandemic struck in 19/20

[@crobisbobis]

LMFAO no CR was top 2 in Balandor 11 years out of 18 being pro, Messi was top 2 in Balandor for 14 years out of 17 being pro... Nether Mbappe nor Haaland have been the best or 2nd best on the planet for more than 1 season so far.... they are both going to be over 25 by the next ceremony.

[@Crouchy232323]

They've already overtaken CR7 but won't overtake Messi or Ronaldo Nazario

[@mayujamir6027]

How so?

[@Coach-rq6jx]

Lol.

[@Crouchy232323]

@@mayujamir6027 they admired by all

[@mayujamir6027]

@@Crouchy232323 lol. Is admiration the deciding factor for who is the better player? CR7 has the most followers online if you want to talk about popularity and admiration. Regardless, such an abstract and unquantifiable thing as admiration cannot be a major deciding factor in who gets to be called the goat. Give me a better argument as to why them two have achieved so much more than cr7.

[@Crouchy232323]

@@mayujamir6027 they have overtaken them in the admiration of the football public. Neither as seen as a toxic influence. The designation of who is the better player is by definition subjective. Any other questions?

[@laujack24]

will be tough for them, ronaldo record is not hard to break haaland score like 52 goals last season. peak ronaldo was 65 a season, he might able to break that on a good year. but messi 73 a season lol, thats probably out of reach by any player for a long time. I'm not gonna include messi 91 goal + 22 assist a year record. that 113 g+a goal contribution, ya good luck.

[@Slim-Clips]

Mbappé can overtake Ronaldo. Nobody in the upcoming generation can get near Messi.

[@Coach-rq6jx]

Lol

[@ModernFootball866]

@@Coach-rq6jx He is not wrong

[@Chip_Fuse]

@@Coach-rq6jx he's trolling, don't take it seriously.

[@ModernFootball866]

​@@Chip_FuseHow is he trolling? Messi in his 5th best season was a better player than CR7, Haaland and Mbappe in their best season, so I don't think they will reach the same level as Messi at his peak, but it's possible that Mbappe can reach Ronaldos level. It's not a disrespect against CR7. He is the 2nd best player of his generation and he deserves respect for that

[@Chip_Fuse]

@@ModernFootball866 Lmaooo

[@anubixus]

If Mbappe moves to Real and produces results like in PSG then yes. And if Haaland represent England then yes!

[@greatokezirume3104]

This is not even a debate We all know Mbappe is better than Haaland. We are just trying to get a GOAT debate

[@IrvineBrooks]

I think than Ronaldo goal record breaking is bigger than Halaand, Ronaldo played as a winger in a team that doesnt play for him and halaand play striker. More goals yeah but Ronaldo as a winger being to scorers is better

[@johnprashanth27]

Let's talk when they are at their best after 10 yrs Messi and Ronaldo did it for 15+ years consistently

[@melbasanke9270]

And also if Haaland adds more to his game I’ll say he will be a better goal scorer or reach Ronaldo’s record of being a top goal scorer

[@chisomchibuzo1204]

Messi meat rider

[@Coach-rq6jx]

He has to keep doing that for at least 10-13 years. That's the impossible part. And anyway, Ronaldo's a complete package. He excelled in every aspect. There might be players like NIstelrooij, Hugo Sanchez, and Haaland here etc who can excel in just one aspect ie goalscoring.

[@acacia8261]

@@Coach-rq6jx with modern tech he can

[@Done359]

He won't be able to dribble , shoot maybe cross , clutch do freelicks and produce magical moments like cristiano and messi ever would

[@A_Imp_kon_floing...bdoing]

I would say, that IF you want to compare Mbappe and Haaland, then more with Ronaldo them with Messi. No-one of them two is even close to Messis style of football.

[@Vasil.Tsvetkov]

I believe it's impossible to surpass Messi and CR7. They are both not only insanely talented but also consistent. To reach their heights Mbappe and Haaland have to average over 40 goals for 20 years and also win insane amount of trophies which I doubt it will happen but let's see

[@acacia8261]

it is possible but not for mbappe and especially haaland

[@alfandosavant4639]

Short answer: no Long answer: no way 😂😂😂

[@MoeLester4444]

Mbappes stats in league 1 are a joke 🤣 and haaland is just a goal scorer. They have nothing against ronaldo and messi

[@Honorbound43]

I mean the difference is the position of each player and the tactics. Ronaldo played RM in Manchester United during a time where Right Mids were facilitators NOT going into the box. Messi played RW and he was playing off of Ronaldinho who was facilitating the ball progression next to iniesta. Haaland is literally right in front of goal. It’s better to compare his numbers to ST Ronaldo or Ibrahimovic, but also understand that running up goals and assists numbers only happened during the ronaldo and Messi era.

[@BrazilianBrawler]

I disagree with Mbappe performance in 22 world Cup. His FINAL game performance was outstanding... And just after the penalty. Before that moment, the best French player was Griezmann.

[@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633]

Yep!

[@ADthehawk]

Halaand is not in the race, because of his luck in nationality and also because of his lack of involvement. He rarely produces moments of solo brilliance like the rest here. If Mbappe keeps up his form in the World Cup, I can see him win that at least once more. Guy is a beast, probably the greatest world cupper since Pele and Maradona. Bellingham has a bigger claim than Halaand. However, they all need to do a few 50 goal seasons and keep scoring 30+ for at least 10 years, before we can really compare them to Messi or Ronaldo.

[@kulaaadkdjd]

They both will surpass ronaldo but not messi...

[@Scaarrr000]

@FootballMadeSimple your analysis seems to be about English clubs - kindly include Laliga and seria A top matches too, they are even more technical anyway

[@silviofiuza4562]

Next rivalry will be between Mbappe Musiala and Bellingham not Mbappe and Haaland

[@KidneyJones]

What💀

[@m3ga975]

wtf is wrong with that ronaldo pic? 😂😂

[@Amado79193]

I think it’s possible but very very thing chance. id rather push messi and ronaldo aside and just enjoy them for what they are. both talented young players who are entertaining. honestly don’t think we’ll see talent on par with messi and ronaldo for a while. those two are just magical. their skill isn’t even what impresses me but their consistency and longevity. i’ve never heard of dominating the top for this long. if neither one existed the odds of them having 10+ ballon d’ors is very high. I love them both and so blessed I got to watch them play. I cannot stand the thought i’ll have to watch them both retire some day. they are so good and consistent that now people aren’t impressed by 30 goals a season, they inflated expectations. the sport is evolving and changing so much, I don’t think we’ll get to experience a rivalry like this one again. I can’t imagine sharing the top with another person for more than 10 years. 🐐🐐

[@galaxyknight7309]

I don't think its far to just look at stats. Because Ronaldo played as the David Beckham of that man united team thats what sor Alex wanted him to do. And before you say he wasn't a midfileder. He wore the number 7 shirt for a reason because he would play and fill in the void of David Beckham (a midfileder) and people say he doesn't track back but he only stopped tracking back after the 2006 world cup. He played rm in his breakout season but was much more focused on goals and winning games. And because of that sir Alex took him out of midfiled and gave him freedom making him a rw or rm sometimes and even cf sometimes. Ronaldo dominating the premier at Man united is just as impressive if not more then what mbappe did in ligue 1 a worse league for a team with less history.

[@mcmjoe]

Ronaldo himself never reached Messi's level in football. Stop judging players by Tik Tok and Instagram reels. Messi is untouchable for now. On Mbappe and Halland, Halland will never reach Messi's level he's just a poacher(maybe the best Itw at that position) there is more to a footballer than goals and assists. As Johan Cruyff one said, "Never compare a great goal scorer to a great player." Lewandowski is a more complete footballer than Halland . Mbappe is already the best player in ITW all he needs to do is ditch PSG and move to Madrid and start winning individual awards and Champions league. I don't know if he will be as good as Messi, he isn't really a playmaker but he has the highest ceiling among the current generation.

[@eddysipah]

Can’t really compare the 2, Messi & Ronaldo started off as wingers & Haaland & Mbappe were number 9’s throughout their careers so far

[@KidneyJones]

Mbappe played a good amount on the wing though

[@NicholasPadilha]

Neymar was greater then them all at those early ages, sadly he got too many injuries and bad decisions which now made him a side character in the world football stage...

[@CashMoneyBeater]

Mbappé might have shouts for the best World Cup player ever if he keeps his current pace up, but both football wise and narrative wise neither of these two touching what we witnessed from 2005/6 to 2021