Gold Smelting, Is It Worth It? Part 2!!!

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mbmmllc

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@OpenSpaceWellness
@OpenSpaceWellness 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the hard work. 🙏❤️🌲
@bobhoward6676
@bobhoward6676 10 ай бұрын
It's all about the fun. All hobbies cost money. At least this has value when finished. I love learning how to do this. Been following for years.
@Red9GearHead
@Red9GearHead 10 ай бұрын
Jason many of us greatly appreciate everything you do. The rest of these Karen’s would still complain if you ship them the gold directly. We are living in a world full of unhappy people. Please keep it up brother! I’ll always be here appreciating what you do.
@juanlui284
@juanlui284 9 ай бұрын
Jason is a genius
@richardlincoln8438
@richardlincoln8438 10 ай бұрын
Just commenting to feed the algorithm Jason. Best Wishes to everyone.
@dakartoffel
@dakartoffel 10 ай бұрын
Hi Jason, your rock crushing equipment looks nice and is very professional. I hope you can set up a similarly professional smelter someday. This overflowing cone-mould; furnace heldt together by wire and flimsy tools stuff is a stark contrast to the rock crushing equipment of yours. Greetings from Germany.
@lotharschiese8559
@lotharschiese8559 10 ай бұрын
You noticed, you are paying attention.
@MrDazP1adv3ntures
@MrDazP1adv3ntures 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Jason, To me You are not what I would class as a " KZbinr" you are a genuinely talented and knowledgeable individual who shares his experiences for us all to enjoy. This is way beyond gold panning but it puts everything in to perspective as it is all part of the process. Thank you buddy 👍
@NoahMask
@NoahMask 10 ай бұрын
I've really been enjoying this channel, would love to see a collab w/Cody's Lab!
@kahnfu-zhin8627
@kahnfu-zhin8627 10 ай бұрын
It’s always worth watching you at work, because you’re always experimenting and trying new stuff. We all get to learn about the intricacies of gold recovery, the most fascinating process in the world.
@chicagovasko
@chicagovasko 10 ай бұрын
Jason I appreciate you teaching me this stuff I'm not good in school but with you I learn a lot thanks bro.
@DavidLittleBird
@DavidLittleBird 10 ай бұрын
Jason, you treat us so right!
@danje748
@danje748 10 ай бұрын
These videos are always interesting to watch, really enjoy them. =)
@KevinAxt-om5on
@KevinAxt-om5on 10 ай бұрын
I'll probably never mine for gold or even hobby prospect but its fun watching the videos. Thanks for putting these together. Like the argyle socks!
@nonosumarno5441
@nonosumarno5441 4 ай бұрын
Nice to meet you... great... hopefully this knowledge will be useful for the benefit of humanity.
@mikehalvorsen4788
@mikehalvorsen4788 10 ай бұрын
Hey Jason. A while back you mentioned if you could use chemicals to refine your gold. Not really sure, but I think you still have to go threw the process you go threw first before you use chemicals. Love your videos. Thanks. 😎👍🇨🇦
@JCTaylorinAZ
@JCTaylorinAZ 10 ай бұрын
Jason. Love watching your experience with mining. Instead of using bismuth is there a reason you don’t like to use lead. For the mine samples I smelter. To this day we still use lead to absorb the precious metals instead of bismuth. I would also try adding a small amount of silver spool wire to capture the precious metals. Wonder if you would have better success absorbing the lead with boneash rather then the bismuth method. Let me know what you think?
@izzyburgos9648
@izzyburgos9648 10 ай бұрын
Hey Jason, Im 20 and I stay in Bellingham, Wa. I love your content and would to like to work with you. I’m open to learning and I would greatly appreciate it to learn some of your great knowledge. Thanks again for the great content!
@davidoconn9352
@davidoconn9352 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Jason A very interesting video for sure thanks again.
@JesseJames83
@JesseJames83 10 ай бұрын
I'd like to see a part 3 where you show us a worth-while smelt; something that makes a nice profit after time and materials.
@retselyarrh3895
@retselyarrh3895 10 ай бұрын
How do you separate the gold from the silver???
@charlesmerfield1322
@charlesmerfield1322 10 ай бұрын
Jason, could you use the XRF on the concentrates to better understand what's in them?
@dewardtaylor4192
@dewardtaylor4192 10 ай бұрын
Jason thanks for the great video. Looking forward to you opening your mine this season. Stay safe
@jamesdetrick6035
@jamesdetrick6035 10 ай бұрын
Your videos are very very informative and very entertaining. Thank you for all your hard work well I just sit around and watch
@petepal55
@petepal55 10 ай бұрын
Learning has a great deal of value as it can be used for the rest of your life if you document it well.
@coinjunkyag1626
@coinjunkyag1626 10 ай бұрын
Jason! Hey hey buddy love the vids thank you for sharing ✌️
@CrestoneColorado-yj4we
@CrestoneColorado-yj4we 10 ай бұрын
I learned, I enjoyed. Thanks Jason
@markbottcher9623
@markbottcher9623 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for all your hard work,and mistakes we can learn from. I may not be doing any smelting anytime soon ,but i have learned alot from these vids.
@TB-zw7dt
@TB-zw7dt 10 ай бұрын
Sounds like it's time to upscale if you have a good supply of rich ore and get your smelting formulations down pat.
@littlejonathorn6860
@littlejonathorn6860 10 ай бұрын
25:45 Jason, is there a way to polish the dirt off or to shine or remove dirt? Would it even be worth it to fix it because its such a small sample?
@boredtexan
@boredtexan 10 ай бұрын
Great video as always! I'm always excited to see new ones pop up.
@rikspector
@rikspector 10 ай бұрын
Jason, I feel the heat:) from here:) Cheers, Rik in Ferndale
@georgetucker2171
@georgetucker2171 9 ай бұрын
I appreciate that you show us your mistakes as well as your successes -- thanks!!
@timothyodonnell8591
@timothyodonnell8591 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the informative video!
@reddmuldoone7738
@reddmuldoone7738 10 ай бұрын
Have been watching your adventures for a while. I haven't got the fever but I do have a sore throat. Is it necessary to use that much flux in your smelts?
@smokeyandspikeproductions
@smokeyandspikeproductions 10 ай бұрын
If you coat that fire brick with kiln wash your crucible will be less likely to stick prior to pouring.😁👍 Excellent job all around Jason, keep up that great work and good content!
@zackfalin7266
@zackfalin7266 10 ай бұрын
You may have done this before, but I'd like to see a detailed cost analysis- how much does the fuel cost for x amount of material, how much does the electricity cost for the cupel, how much do cupels cost and how many times/how much material can you run through them, etc. Kinda boring math, but interesting when all put together.
@GSProspecting
@GSProspecting 10 ай бұрын
Great job all around fam. Keep on having fun getting that Au and living the dream. Gold Squad Out 🤠
@apertureonline9566
@apertureonline9566 6 ай бұрын
I think I've destroyed gold multiple times, that's what it looks like :( idk why. It's difficult
@vicferrari9380
@vicferrari9380 10 ай бұрын
Keep up the great effort.
@me5768
@me5768 10 ай бұрын
Now you should do an Acid removal test to compare with the recovery from the smelting. But I enjoyed your video very much. Thank you.
@rockman531
@rockman531 10 ай бұрын
Great videos, Jason! Thank you for taking the time to educate us! Thumbs up - as always!! Be safe! Jim
@josephcormier5974
@josephcormier5974 10 ай бұрын
This was a very enjoyable and informative video thank you for sharing this six stars brother
@mattlevesque5927
@mattlevesque5927 10 ай бұрын
Great video brother 🎉
@I.Live4oldcars.prospecting
@I.Live4oldcars.prospecting 10 ай бұрын
Interesting video Jason
@Shaboynga
@Shaboynga 10 ай бұрын
Could you crush up old cupels to refine out the copper?
@المعادن_و_الأحجار_الكريمة
@المعادن_و_الأحجار_الكريمة 10 ай бұрын
Thanks
@jeepin4on4
@jeepin4on4 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Jason.
@davidanalyst671
@davidanalyst671 10 ай бұрын
since when did you start doing clips for business insider??? I had no idea I was watching a star!!
@semoneg2826
@semoneg2826 9 ай бұрын
He was always a star
@cblock81
@cblock81 10 ай бұрын
Hey Jason, not sure if anyone has mentioned, but if you put a piece of cardboard under the crucible it won't stick to the firebrick.
@lotharschiese8559
@lotharschiese8559 10 ай бұрын
A layer of carbon makes it nonstick.
@varjen018
@varjen018 10 ай бұрын
Would it be possible to cut the slag into slivers or is it just too brittle? I think it would be epic pieces to display if one could get them thin enough.
@ahbushnell1
@ahbushnell1 10 ай бұрын
any advantage of using iron powder? If it all dissolved then the maybe it would reduce the loss.
@johncasebeer179
@johncasebeer179 10 ай бұрын
Great video!
@sahabuddinbuddin667
@sahabuddinbuddin667 10 ай бұрын
Memiliki ilmu melebur dgan resep kimia yg pas bisa menikmati keyaan alam di. Sekitar kita
@johnkatakowsi9907
@johnkatakowsi9907 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the time you took showing your formulation on your smelting!!!!!😀
@1944chevytruck
@1944chevytruck 10 ай бұрын
good job!
@rigel1176
@rigel1176 2 ай бұрын
True true ...... ...like I thought ....... Thank you Jason ,- lot of info !
@kenchappelle816
@kenchappelle816 10 ай бұрын
Jason to keep things simple and inexpensive can I use Baking Soda and 20 mule team borax ? Potassium Nitrate is becoming a problem to obtain also because it can be used to make explosives.
@TheVillageGreen
@TheVillageGreen 9 ай бұрын
Jason, you said it takes a couple hours start to finish for a smelt. I was wondering if you could give us an elapsed time indicator on one of the videos, or maybe you have in the past and I missed it? Also, you often comment on the colour of the button, but it’s difficult to see on video sometimes. It might be helpful to see the buttons next to a pure gold and pure silver button so whatever’s happening with camera/lighting/display we get a feel for the comparison you’re making.
@josephescott3263
@josephescott3263 10 ай бұрын
Is it possible on the first couple of tries that there was no gold in the sample because even though it was wet material, maybe the gold particles settled during shipping and the sample needed to be remixed and possibly dried before testing?
@Alondro77
@Alondro77 10 ай бұрын
Really want to send you guys a sample of my heavily weathered black sands from an ancient glacial moraine here in central NJ. I've found gold dust and small flakes from panning, but this material comes from eastern Canadian deposits where it's known that flour gold is held inside the hematite and magnetite grains worn out of the quartz ores. I was lucky enough to find a quartz pebble with a broken hematite grain on the surface, and there in the middle a tiny speck of gold could be seen shining brilliantly in the sun (with a magnifying glass to actually see the little thing). From panning various samples, including black sands from marine deposits that don't have any appreciable amount of gold, I can tell these glacial black sands are MUCH denser. The ocean black sands easily wash around with even light swirling of the pan, while the glacial ones are so heavy that it's often hard to separate them from the gold dust. They also possess the ultra fine 'silver sand', which can be anything from lead ores to PGMs (and the ores in eastern Canada are known to have platinum). It'd be a simple smelt too, since any sulfides are long gone. This material has been ground down by glacial action and weathered in the open for at least 10,000 years. I often find quartz stones with cavities where you can see the imprints of the pyrite crystals and masses that oxidized and washed away over time.
@lotharschiese8559
@lotharschiese8559 10 ай бұрын
Do a SG of these black sands and do a SG of black sands totally removed. Should help answer your intuition! Then crush in a dolly pot to flour and carefully pan, Eh? Look for Au stuck to the steel on the thumper and inside the pot!
@lotharschiese8559
@lotharschiese8559 10 ай бұрын
Don't ya love nature's mysteries?
@whateverX7
@whateverX7 10 ай бұрын
Are the black sands magnetic? If you measure the density and it is significantly greater than 5g/cm3 then you might have something interesting
@frontiervirtcharter
@frontiervirtcharter 10 ай бұрын
Hydrochloric or sulfuric acid will dissolve hematite. Might be worth reacting a small sample of your sands with an appropriate amount of hardware store muriatic acid (HCl) to see what's left when the hematite is removed
@Alondro77
@Alondro77 10 ай бұрын
@@lotharschiese8559That really would be very cost-prohibitive. I'd have to buy all that equipment to test a few pounds of black sand. It'd be MUCH cheaper to send Mount Baker a sample and let Jason smelt it. He has the expertise to do it right and get a result I can have faith in.
@miketheminer2023
@miketheminer2023 10 ай бұрын
Always good info Jason
@AminAlwily
@AminAlwily 17 күн бұрын
Please Jason, u add oxidize Oxidize of what, please? I'll be grateful to you 😮😊
@TechGorilla1987
@TechGorilla1987 10 ай бұрын
@20:52 - Very few things make me say "Whoa" like I was in a Bill And Teds Excellent Adventure movie, but that reaction to the steel is one of them.
@Khusringoldminers
@Khusringoldminers 10 ай бұрын
Amazing very good, good luck
@anotherluckydad
@anotherluckydad 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the brain food Jason. That was a great example of techniques.
@CrushTheRocks110
@CrushTheRocks110 10 ай бұрын
Nice brother
@cigie2
@cigie2 10 ай бұрын
I feel like there has to be a more efficient way to extract the precious metals from the concentrate. Have you ever considered using acids to fully dissolve the concentrates, then precipitate out specific metals and separate them that way?
@timhenson4815
@timhenson4815 10 ай бұрын
Always enjoy all the information you give us ! Great content!
@candui-7
@candui-7 10 ай бұрын
I found what I believe is a pure acanthite vein Jason! Can I bring it over?
@lotharschiese8559
@lotharschiese8559 10 ай бұрын
Mail it him.
@thomasgalpin5506
@thomasgalpin5506 3 ай бұрын
thanks for such good info
@mickeyfilmer5551
@mickeyfilmer5551 10 ай бұрын
You have a fabrication shop there- why don't you make yourself a decent sized smelter? There are loads of videos online on how to do it and from what I have seen of your equipment, you have the necessary tools and skills set to fabricate one. Then you could smelt larger volumes and make it cost effective- also buld a larger pyramid pouring jig and some properly forged tools for holding and pouring the melt- the set up you have currently is not safe for pouring - watch some videos online of people smelting and you will see the tools they use- easily made in your shop.
@lotharschiese8559
@lotharschiese8559 10 ай бұрын
Yes, I have concerns also, there is plenty of info on how to be more functional and safer. Build up over your furnace, a fume hood, much like a blacksmith had with a good size exhaust fan. Metal poisoning, whether it be air or water is not fun and it will creep up on you, it accumulates in our body!
@tominthebox
@tominthebox 10 ай бұрын
GM from Montreal.
@bradical2723
@bradical2723 10 ай бұрын
Jason im in MT! New to gold panning and such, can i come visit your mine???
@scruggsbuster9458
@scruggsbuster9458 10 ай бұрын
Maybe if you put your samples on black paper you might be able to see them😂 but thank you for the video and all your hard work making the videos for us we will see you on the next one😂❤
@apertureonline9566
@apertureonline9566 6 ай бұрын
Well when I used silver for my smelts, i ended up gaining around 2-5 grams of what should be like 93% pure gold. When I use lead, I lose about 2 grams of the lead. I was gonna try these cupels you used in the video, I havent been using nails just because theyre slightly annoying, idk if thats gonna cause a big issue. I got some stuff to try, if I keep failing then I guess ill just have to try and figure something else out
@markae0
@markae0 10 ай бұрын
I would like "sreetips" opinion on dissolving - extracting the gold in - from an acid.
@derrickseymour6775
@derrickseymour6775 9 ай бұрын
I wonder if it would be worth trying to suspend the iron bar while smelting to avoid it sitting in the bismuth. Just a thought
@Sauspreme
@Sauspreme 10 ай бұрын
instead of adding big chunks of iron to get eaten away to reduce the collector metal, what would happen if you figured out a ratio and weighed out an amount of iron to add to the mix? that way you don't have excess chunks of iron covered in collector metal. Or at least it would seem you could reduce the size of those excess iron chunks and the loss of collector metal maybe. Or would that cause some other kind of contamination issue?
@garrethill1332
@garrethill1332 6 күн бұрын
Are you allowed to use a very small trackhoe?
@anthonyrstrawbridge
@anthonyrstrawbridge 10 ай бұрын
Would a hybrid fire assay chemical refining be beneficial?
@harvesteasternedge
@harvesteasternedge 10 ай бұрын
Great
@scott2296
@scott2296 9 ай бұрын
Why not roast the samples in a campfire (make some hotlinks while you're at it), then use AR instead of smelting? I'm new here, sorry if this is a dumb question.
@Ethan-xm4fv
@Ethan-xm4fv 10 ай бұрын
Jason looks like your getting the work out with pouring #12 s
@donaldfitzgerald8950
@donaldfitzgerald8950 10 ай бұрын
Jason, alchemists are like magicians, but you understand what's happening and that's what counts!... I'm lucky if i can remember my name sometimes!? Lol! But spring is coming, wouldn't a horizontal drilling machine help you with your mine, that's what's needed at the mine at Cerro Gordo, ya think? Keep it all happening...⛏️⚒️⚖️👍✌️🤠
@jimgriffiths9071
@jimgriffiths9071 10 ай бұрын
All interesting, but what we really want to know is the values from your mine samples. Will there be a season 2 up on the mountain?
@Sean-q1k
@Sean-q1k 10 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
@rooftopv4664
@rooftopv4664 10 ай бұрын
He sells all the high grade stuff on Ebay and crushes the low grade stuff that's left. We will never know the real value of that ore...
@bentationfunkiloglio
@bentationfunkiloglio 10 ай бұрын
Rebar might be better than flat bar. Less surface area for bismuth to fuse to.
@gregwaters944
@gregwaters944 10 ай бұрын
When you have gold and silver together how do you separate the two?
@markpashia7067
@markpashia7067 10 ай бұрын
Have you ever scratch/acid tested the beads/buttons to get a closer number on the percent gold? Seems that would be an easy way to value them. Is the button 22k, 18k, 14k or 9k? That info with the weight would give you a real value number. Of course that does not value the silver content though.
@markramone69
@markramone69 10 ай бұрын
What kind of temperature do you recommend to smelt a 1kg bar?
@markbrown6236
@markbrown6236 10 ай бұрын
I like the math done on a piece of cardboard, very down to earth.
@domonikoldham7387
@domonikoldham7387 10 ай бұрын
was this a reupload or am i mistaken i think this was posted 2 weeks ago
@AlexWalford-jm3mg
@AlexWalford-jm3mg 6 ай бұрын
This make me want to buy a gold mine and do the same thing Jason is doing
@williamp2359
@williamp2359 10 ай бұрын
I think you messed up. I haven't watched all of this, but the first 3:58 are the exact same as part 1.
@semoneg2826
@semoneg2826 9 ай бұрын
It's a recap
@fishinarkansas3348
@fishinarkansas3348 3 ай бұрын
You watched the first 4 mins. But missed the first min? How my brother in christ is your brain mush?
@mikehartman5326
@mikehartman5326 10 ай бұрын
Sometimes, I think using plain old Lead might bring better results.
@scotthultin7769
@scotthultin7769 10 ай бұрын
38 👍's up mbmllc thank you for sharing 🤗
@SirHackaL0t.
@SirHackaL0t. 10 ай бұрын
I was surprised that you filled up the first crucible so high as you were worried about boil over.
@idiggold
@idiggold 10 ай бұрын
Maybe the flatbar gives more iron surface area compared to the nails
@patmccrady6063
@patmccrady6063 10 ай бұрын
I would’ve like to see the comparison of a lead collector
@greenfrog12428
@greenfrog12428 10 ай бұрын
Is he reposting the same videos? I thought I watched this already
@phlomix
@phlomix 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, seems like a remix of part 1, with bits of new mixed in.
@barrybrehm3555
@barrybrehm3555 10 ай бұрын
I still don’t understand why you don’t dry your sample like you used to. It should make it better.
@levimichael1136
@levimichael1136 10 ай бұрын
The bismuth that fuses to the steel, couldn't you heat the steel up to 1000°F and the bismuth would roll off and the steel wouldn't melt? Same thing as you did with the matte at the end.
@frontiervirtcharter
@frontiervirtcharter 10 ай бұрын
Depends if bismuth and iron combine when they melt .. The part of the bismuth that soaked into the iron won't just roll off.
@levimichael1136
@levimichael1136 10 ай бұрын
@@frontiervirtcharter it looked like the bismuth was plated on the outside. Iron doesn't melt until a lot higher Temps. That's why I was thinking the plated bismuth on the outside would run off if heated up
@robo6590
@robo6590 10 ай бұрын
Bachman Turner Overdrive must have watched a lot of Jason.
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