McDojo Breakdown: Martial Arts Nonsense - The Next Generation

[@McDojoLife]

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[@mikeohara1055]

I bought the book. Loved it. Well written. Great stories.

[@FULLSENDSONLY247]

If you haven't seen him already, Steve Demasco runs a TON of mcdojos in the New England area. They don't spar because their techniques are "too deadly". His claims and credentials are wild. I would love to see you research and do a breakdown video of him. Keep up the great work!

[@learntooilpaint]

The bizarre thing is when the guy does the elbow to arm ko, he could just have blocked the first strike and gone straight for an elbow to the face, faster, and more likely to get you a ko.

[@Fooktard323]

​@@learntooilpaint but then he couldn't have hit the spleen 3 spot

[@kevinlee8663]

Ahhhhhh-CHOOO! Dude sneezes and the room turns into a Jim Jones party!😂

[@tomshepherd4901]

"I'm sure on some planet your style is quite impressive, but your weak link is... this is Earth." - Kung Pow

[@bodyzoasispersonaltraining9186]

Jajajajaja

[@chrismayclin6397]

Funny movie!

[@mdug7224]

I prefer red peppers in mine.

[@jacksdad734]

I heard theyre making another one.

[@johnbwill]

Perfect.

[@FightCoachWC3]

The baffling thing to me, is not the "instructors", it's the students who play along 🤣😂

[@wingatebarraclough3553]

Maybe the "student " is paid or remunerated in some way? Recall the promoters of the "beetles" paid actresses to pretend to faint at their shows...

[@martiallife4136]

Yeah, they break fall and act knocked out.

[@ClydeRowing]

I'm not convinced they are consciously, cynically acting out the KO like stuntmen. They are emotionally invested in believing in this stuff, they WANT it to be real. After all, they want to be able to master it themselves. The technique is a placebo, but they convince themselves that when hit on a certain point, they will fall down and 'feel' groggy. Also it seems that the 'master' says in advance what the effect of the strike will be, so the true believing student will react in the 'correct' way.

[@kingswing00]

It's sometimes referred to as "active compliance". There's some degree of it in every martial art no matter how legitimate. This is what it looks like in the extreme

[@rykehuss3435]

@@kingswing00 whats the active compliance part of boxing or wrestling?

[@u45.-]

The slaps to revive the guys probably does more damage than the initial technique lol😂

[@merakimelodies8931]

Amen, bro.! 😂

[@jamar2349]

A sure sign of a McDojo: Size A10 short sleeve gi.

[@CharlesTriesToRetire]

Where do they get those short sleeve, patch covered, lightweight gis from? I need one for our next Halloween open mat.

[@Liefvikerson]

Its earned through years & years of Jui- Mitsu-bish on and off the mats. You wouldn't be able to handle the program, PAL.

[@chadcleary7821]

These look like masters in bulshito.

[@uncledon2128]

Having been married and divorced twice, I find it hard to blame someone for being gullible.

[@n1ghtmar3mach1n3]

✋🏼 Right here...

[@josef2012]

😂

[@jwalls2378]

The teacher is at fault and once the student falls for the BS they are now part of the cycle.

[@CyberChrist]

They wouldn't be teachers without students.

[@killallninjas]

It takes two to tango. The fake instructor drives it....but....there's something really weird going on that first time the student gets hit and feels nothing, but decides "You know what? I'm gonna pretend this works, too!"

[@albonthegoat]

How any of this stuff still circulates in the age of MMA being everywhere blows my mind. In the 80s we all believed in jump kicks, Dim Mak, and noses being pushed into brains because we were dummies who didn't know better. This new generation sees what happens on tv at the highest level. They have no excuses for being worse dummies.

[@rticle15]

Im old enough to remember pre-ufc and nobody believed in Dim Mak. But i remember kids in middle school talking about the brain nose. I used to ask, "Why does that never happen to pro boxers?" Now i do believe that fancy kicks can work. Not for me, but ive seen guys do some showy stuff in mma.

[@albertforletta1498]

@@rticle15, I truly believe if I’m watching for a punch and the guy kicks me, I know it is going to hurt me real bad. However, what I don’t understand is when the guy spins in a complete circle to throw a full power kick, how the hell does his foot hit anyone.???? You turn your back on me then I either jump back and you miss, OR I jump forward and you hit the ground.

[@robertdemon3550]

It was ridiculous the amount of bullshit story’s that would circulate about martial arts in the 80’s, there’s no excuse nowadays with MMA being a major sport you can watch at anytime for believing any of this crazy crap these frauds are pushing.

[@daddypenguin69]

My answer is that like Miyagi said: "There's not bad students, only bad teachers"

[@bullshidotv7332]

Can't think of a better answer than that one.

[@CyberChrist]

Without bad students, bad teachers would die from starvation.

[@michaelreiter158]

Yes, See karate kid, thats martial Arts at its best😅

[@JoeCab]

I went to the excel martial arts KZbin page and comments are turned off on all of their videos.

[@Cailus3542]

I'm torn. Watching those videos sounds hilarious, but these guys might do serious damage to my mental health. Heck, I might even laugh so hard that I have an asthma attack. Their martial powers are clearly formidable to hurt me like this.

[@adamtennant4936]

OMG, "He drops like a sack of fraudulent potatoes" just killed me. 🤣

[@Dan_Hill43]

Don’t let the strike fool you, the energy came from the guy’s halitosis.😂

[@DFMACK]

You discovered the secret of the no brush KO.

[@jpsholland]

You halitosis is obsolete, our chi powers comes from the hallelujah

[@igotbluesdevils]

Agreed. And you almost described how real martial arts work: "Don't let the fool strike you" :D

[@pickleballer1729]

Ahh, Master Ken. What a guy. How I love good satire. Did you notice how at 3:05 when he says "chu" there's a pause for a second while the patsy decides whether that's his cue to go limp, or if he's supposed to wait for the next "chu"?

[@oovii808]

I can't believe you made this video...these guys are killers, and I'm sure they're not going to take these insults lying down. Not while there's a buffet open.

[@uncledon2128]

Yeah, your life could be in danger right after supper.

[@Utahokinawanseidokankarate]

It's a problem because the general public doesn't REALLY know what to look for or what they're looking at. It takes some searching, and then searching again (known as RE-searching!) to find out what's what. And educating the public when it's so easy to find bad information is an uphill (but very worthwhile) battle.

[@Jamoni1]

You can tell those two are just bursting with chi. They're overflowing with it. They've taken in so much chi they can barely move.

[@Neelo5000]

They're definitely full of it

[@quentinapplefish]

They should try fatfree Chi

[@Antonio-A-Perez]

The half moons on their fingernails must be full moons with all that chi.

[@RancorousSea]

You're gonna be so mad when they turn into a butterfly and get incredibly thin

[@Nate_Higgins]

I''M so down when I see the baby burping revival technique. Such a classic move.

[@scottwinkels6736]

I’d like to interview the demonstration assistants and see if they really believe they’ve been knocked out.

[@TheBlahblah86]

He knows Mr. Satan's delayed reaction elbow. He's ready for Majin Buu.

[@RancorousSea]

He saved the world is what he did. He was a brave human martial artist. And in this house, Hercule is a hero. End of story

[@emptyemptiness8372]

They don't teach that rubbish to martial artists, they teach it to people who don't fight,won't fight,they just want to belong and believe because mediocrity is unbearable. The masters of Woo Woo know this and deliver the fantasy where we can all be kick ass Harry Potters. If if fills a hole in their lives I have no problem, it's only a problem if they find themselves in conflict and believe they have skills they don't but that is unlikely for most.

[@misterA2Z]

Every time I see these videos it makes me realize how easy this would all be if I was just a much less honest person. Not only does it feel so dishonest to open schools like this but even more so when you have people believe they are learning potential self defense and combat skills.

[@davidwate6057]

Your basic McDojo is almost as bad. I worked as an assistant instructor at one of those strip mall karate schools. You know the kind that REALLY play up all the character building, and self esteem aspects of martial arts training, the ones that tell you your kid will be a black belt in three years, two if you pay for the “special accelerated class”, and teach a hybrid of several styles and were designed by a 40 year old dude with a ponytail. Yeah one of those places. I didn’t last three months. I was a higher rank (in a legitimate martial art) than the lead instructor, I’d been training more than twice as long as him, and I had fought competitively, but he was more “kid friendly” so he got the better paying job. I ended up leaving after talking with the school manager (someone with zero martial arts background) and him saying I was too hard on the kids. He told me they never wanted a kid to quit because it was “too hard” or “not fun”. You know what I did which led to this conversation? I made kids perform techniques again if they didn’t do it right the first time. I also had kids do body conditioning exercises when they would do something poorly. Like as an example: a kid would be doing one of their made up “self defense forms” and would forget part of it, so I’d have them do five pushups before trying again. The kids loved it, I would have a couple of kids in a row do something wrong and have to do a burpee, then the next kid would do the thing right and still want to do a burpee. But the parents thought I was “too hard on their baby” and complained. Man those parents would have lost their minds if I trained those kids anything close to how mine went, we were literally hit with sticks during training.

[@MatildaAndFriends]

​@@davidwate6057 Why ...were you hit with a stick? Lol. /Just some drunken brawler loser

[@anquoejiu-jitsuredcloudanq2134]

There are a few schools like that all over Oklahoma. They teach techniques that will never work and convince their students that it will.

[@joeyc.9622]

"Ning is a Killing Word." - Paul Muad'dib Atreides. They practice the Prana Bindu. Or, rather, Prana Bullshit.

[@seangentry74]

I think one of the most telling things I've seen was the "break fall". I mean, all those guys are absolute frauds but the facts that they all breakfall as they go down... every... last... on of them... is amazing.

[@denisev5250]

I think it’s like 80/20 Instuctor/student fault. On a side note, i love the Punch Out picture on your wall!

[@easygroove]

They neeeeeed to make this a UFC Tournament! Dim Mak MC Dojo Masters against Each other I´d Pay for that!!

[@internalwarrior2410]

Any there any Mcdojos that teach defence against chi attacks? I'm looking for a complete Mcdojo system. Any recommendations?

[@youtubecensors5419]

For $235 I will send you my booklet.

[@RancorousSea]

I used to play Naruto : Clash of Ninja 2 when I was a kid and I've never lost a point of chi since.

[@craigd9007]

Around 25 years ago I trained at this dojo when it was LCMA. I trained with Cody Robyn for years(under Steve Schatvet, who isn't mentioned here...) and always knew him to be an excellent martial artist, but I wasn't fed any of that stuff in the videos. The instructor at the time used to talk about some stuff like this, but I was never shown any of it. I don't even know how to process what I saw here...

[@kevinlee8663]

Process it as u trained under a fraud.

[@Initium1000]

There is/was a Kyusho school near me years ago (like 2 decades ago). The owner was deaf and one of Dillman’s main students. I remember he had some old video of him utilizing sign language to move into a Kyusho move - like it was some sort of transitional step that he invented. I initially wanted to email him about his BS but opted not to. He was disabled and it seemed like he believed what he was teaching which was sad. I just felt sorry for him and I think he thought he was just teaching proper self defense.

[@DangerousWaterMMA]

Both the teacher and student that goes along with the deception and lies are both guilty of following the devil.

[@RancorousSea]

Nah the devil would teach you how to kick ass, he probably has a demonic dojo in hell where he teaches monsters how to dropkick angels.

[@johnbwill]

Rob ... I used to watch your offerings, only when they randomly rolled into my internet youtube feed. But now I watch more regularly, as I have cvome to realise and appreciate that you are doing very important work. Well done Rob ... I am very impressed by your wonderful efforts. Thank you for shedding light upon something that is so cancerous and damaging to our society. Critical thinking is crucial to effective living; and thr work you do propogates precisely this. You are a good man. Best wishes , kudos and deep respect from 'Downunder'. If ever you journey to Australia, you have free training at my academy. - JBW

[@McDojoLife]

Thank you for the support. Truly appreciated

[@CharlesTriesToRetire]

I'm just sad that there are no places to learn this stuff near me. I'm stuck learning BJJ. Let me tell you it's hard for a beginner like me to do a one touch knockout when I'm stuck in a heavy weights side control. I've tried yelling "Save me Dillman, save me" and "the power of ashida kim compels you" to escape, but so far nothing has worked. I'm never going to be a one touch knockout ninja master at this rate.

[@albert_kempowillenborg1707]

😂😂

[@ClickClack_Bam]

You're in luck. For $69.99 I'll send you my secret no touch moves.

[@_Pauper_]

“The power of Ashida Kim compels you!”😏 I promise you I’m using that in the next week. 2 people will get it. But it will be worth it.

[@RancorousSea]

"BJJ isn't real, just levitate"

[@jerryyunes8738]

The teacher is at fault, for initiating the con, but the student(s) will also bear the blame once the truth has been revealed and they continue to attend and/or be part of the con. I love your work and the results that come from your dedication. Lets keep exposing these “FlopDoJos”😂

[@dudeman8323]

Loving the back pat... hope the paramedics know this if I ever need it...

[@dudeman8323]

Lol, I commented before I got to the EMT technique part 😂😂😂

[@venomsabre2696]

4:37 This is funnier when you consider the guy had his chin completely exposed yet he goes for the bicep. What they are doing is not a good way to practice any techniques, but at least going for the chin would've been better.

[@mjb7015]

They don't want to accidentally actually hurt each other! That would get in the way of demonstrating their chi-power techniques.

[@kylelemon4230]

Man im always sad that one day this channel will have nothing to show anymore.... crazy you still find these people loll love it fucking hilarious

[@McDojoLife]

Currently have a back log of at least 3 more years for sure

[@WatchMysh]

​@@McDojoLife this is crazy... how can there be so many of them? Holy cow...

[@vandamme6379]

“If do right, no can defense.”

[@RobKHere]

I was a karate teacher a long time. As I rose in rank and got to know people, I came to see that most them were full of crap. And most fed into one another and kept the bs fest going. When Karate became an industry, it started to really hit high levels. I am 62 now and see that it’s gotten no better.

[@merakimelodies8931]

This is a bit lengthy, but here it goes. I TOTALLY agree, this is totally off and a prime example of a bad style, and Dillman and Pantazi are insane. The explanation for the odd labels (liver 32, groin 69, etc.: I made these up, as I don’t know them all) is that they are labels in traditional Chinese medicine, particularly acupuncture. Interestingly, studies show that acupuncture’s rates of success for post-op treatment is 98%, whereas morphine is only 78%, especially by altering pain-perception, being associated with fast and deep analgesic affects. Whereas Count Dante and all that junk is akin to Dillman and Pantazi (totally insane, and not in a good way), and whereas there are a metric-ton of scammers and incompetents in KungFu, it boils down to this: there are some legitimate version which teach, “pressure-points,” according to acupuncture and acupressure (which are good and operable, according to studies), and some teach it as striking anatomical-weak points, nerves, or blood-vessels: these legitimate versions don’t teach that you can do magical knockouts, but they do teach targeting. For example, they say that you can inflict some pain and maybe knock the breath out of somebody by hitting them in the solar-plexus (boxing and Muay-Thai teach that); that you can make someone light-headed with a firm strike to the neck, where the carotid-artery is (which is medically-sound), or that you MIGHT cause a delayed-death by striking the PMI (point of maximum-impulse, which is medically-documented and which some football players who were struck there experienced a delayed passing afterward, linked to that). Other aspects of proper anatomical-targeting could be as simple as gouging the eyes, hitting someone in the throat to temporarily gag them and back them off, delivering a hammerfist to the collarbone to break it, or to knee someone in the groin. If someone teaches pain-compliance or leverage from pressure-points as a supplement to other techniques, maybe hear them out and put it to the test against trusting opponents; however, if someone teaches that you will knock someone out by punching their thigh or tickling their arm or rubbing your thumb across their head, don’t even give it the benefit of the doubt, because that’s just crazy. Now, is all of that combatively-efficable on its own?-no. That’s why any combatively-legitimate version of KungFu will also teach proper footwork, proper defense, sparing with resisting opponents, proper body-conditioning, exercise, and maybe dabble in other styles a bit (and definitely encourage it). I’m a Muay-Thai practitioner for a couple of years now, and I’m not proficient in any type of KungFu yet: with that being said, I have looked into it and researched it heavily, and I did take some lessons with some folks for a week or two, and it was solid enough. I guess I got lucky finding a good group who weren’t scammers or crazy (and even then, they did have some wacky moves and very-unusual theories that I DEFINITELY DID NOT jive with, but a few bad moves amid a lot of good ones does not make a bad art: even traditional Muay-Thai’s got some high-risk-high-reward moves, after all, such as the crocodile-tail (spinning heel-kick). I simply wanted to put this here to provide a bit of helpful context in a non-pretentious and sane way, and to show that, whereas a lot of KungFu is malarkey for the stage or for scammers or for weird cults, there are legitimate versions of KungFu that are simply a different art with its own set of pro’s and con’s, just like every other art-maybe a bit more rare in the midst of all the KungFu-scammers, but good KungFu does still exist out there, if you take your time and research it carefully (even then, don’t be surprised if there’s a tad bit of wackiness in it, but take the overall-good and leave the slight-bad). The same goes for Systema (Systema Ryabko and Systema Vasiliev are totally-wacky, but Systema Kadochnikov and Systema I.Z.V.O.R. do contain some good content amid their own wackiness, as well, though it’s definitely still a bit too off for me). As for sound-based or no-touch, “knockouts”-run if you see anyone teaching that, because it’s bullshido.

[@kajukine]

Nice post and I did get through it all! Lol. I am a lifelong martial artist started in 1967 and still at it daily, my journey has evolved through time, I was a fighter and competed often 70’s-90’s I watched martial arts in America evolve from the “Blood and guts”era of the 70’s to the flippy kick no contact sport karate is now, also watched MMA evolve, I have both trained fighters and do Chigung, I am blessed to train with some amazing people in my 57 years, I have been exposed to many different philosophies thanks to an instructor with an open mind, jiujitsu is built to our art as one of 5 components, but we’re getting it 2 generation down from the founders and was a hole in our training so in 1991 he connected with Rickson Gracie for more direct training and up our ground game, some of us continued on our JJ journey, some did not. But if anyone has ever been out in a proper Zlock or goose neck lock they become a “traditional”martial art believer, I bounced, and worked loss prevention and made those work many times, as have my countless LEO students. As for the George Dillmam knockout stuff, we also did a few seminars with one of Dilmansguys and he tried to put a lock and or knock out one of my students 6’8, we fought him at 205 Sorry, not sorry to say it didn’t work.😬😉

[@merakimelodies8931]

@@kajukine That sounds AWESOME, man: Jiujitsu rocks! I’m glad to hear you’ve got an open-minded instructor who, nonetheless, looks to the merit of techniques and doesn’t just fall for anything: that balance can be rare, but it’s pure-gold, when you find it! I am not proficient in Jiujitsu, but I hope to be one day, and, until then, I respect it a lot. Jiujitsu’s got such a cool and rich history! Lol, I love what you said about, if you get subjected to a legit version of a traditional martial-art, you readily become a believer that legitimate versions are out there to this day! 😂 I audibly chuckled, and couldn’t agree more!

[@mjb7015]

I mean, an elbow strike to the bicep is a good way to stop them wanting to punch with that hand, IF you actually and it AND they don't have conditioning from martial arts training, weight lifting, callisthenics, and so on... definitely won't knock them out, but they will feel it. I also wouldn't rely on it as a finishing move.

[@RancorousSea]

It's a good way to mildly annoy someone who wants to kick the shit out of you. If you're to the point of the fight where you can choose to land an elbow strike on their bicep at will, then what the fuck is going on in this fight? Are you cornering middle schoolers to invent kung fu on?

[@joescott1377]

Rob I love your sarcasm & humor. Keep up your great work exposing these frauds.

[@caffeineandsleepingpills]

Serious answer to the question at the end-- I got a couple black belts with the ATA and while there was a lot of stuff I i liked about it, the fact remains that I didn't learn very much about practical self defense and it was less like kung fu fighting and more like angry gymnastics. After you've spent years learning and your instructor wants to give you a job or you want to branch out, you WILL reach a point where you realize that you're playing patty cake and need to decide if you keep going with the sunk cost fallacy or find a way to back out. Bottom line, it doesn't matter how you became a teacher-- if you have so little self awareness that you've never really examined what you're teaching, then you're either a willing participant in the fraud or so stupid that you have no business being a teacher.

[@fouresterofthetrees287]

I thought that first thigh punch was actually a punch to the groin. If someone punched me in the cajones like that, my reaction would be worse than the students.

[@mrleejston]

I gently bump so many random parts of me during the day I'm surprised I'm not mostly unconscious

[@FourEyedRaven88]

😂😂😂😂

[@JohnDoe-sr1dd]

The last time Dillman knocked someone out with his mouth was at truck stop just off of I-5.

[@argoshikan]

Glad you covered these guys!

[@mattpenn9079]

That is some delightful if unintentional Three Stooges-level physical comedy. As to the question: Like a wise man once said, 'No bad students, only bad teachers.' But they kind of lose that protection when they themselves become the bad teachers.

[@JeremyDay-y7n]

Let's not go crazy. They don't all break fall. They all try to break fall.

[@williambeine7285]

I think if you know it's garbage,and you decide to teach people that garbage...YOU are to blame.

[@davidparrott1763]

I have to comment twice on this video. I am an ER Nurse by trade and when I was younger and dumber I was knocked out by a knee to my liver when I was training in kickboxing. it waws very odd experience because it was delayed. I became lightheaded and clammy. Then I dropped. Secondly, ACLS guidelines for CPR does not include sitting the victim up and giving them back blows.

[@PaulJohn283]

I don’t know which one to try first in my next street fight the powerful elbow to the bicep or the double hammer fist to the thigh!!

[@T_L_D]

answer: it's a shared responsibility, and the students have a duty to vet what they're learning and decide whether it passes the sniff test (efficacy) or choose to ignore the evidence and continue down the rabbit hole of confirmation bias. it's hard to admit and own it when you've been duped.

[@JeremyDay-y7n]

What's interesting is that there is truth to pressure points. Getting your funny bone hit. Having your brachial nerve struck by an overhand right. Taking a punch to the sternum. Somehow, it devolved into this shit.

[@jameswilliamsjr.akae.f.gec6611]

I have studied enough Kempo to know which Pressure points work but none of them to my knowledge is capable of knocking anyone out

[@Ophio117]

takes a lot of balls to keep this kind of nonsense rolling in the 21st century.

[@tarnishchris]

It's a 50/50 thing....they learnt bollocks, and after a certain point figured out the nonsense and in an effort to prove that it's true knowingly bought into it and taught it...or something like that

[@williamprice1844]

I love how they always hit harder when they try to get them conscious than when they knock them out

[@Tracy-zr9mg]

Subbed. Somebody should really tell all the Muay Thai fighters that they are risking their lives LOL those leg punches look so deadly

[@andreydavidson379]

Do they not realise how redicilous it looks like what they are doing?

[@henriquenakamura5752]

Finally! I was getting tired of watching stuff about Dillman, Ashida Kim, and the Yellow Bamboo people 🤣

[@theViewer221]

Of course they can knock me out with sound. I will pass out from laughing to long. Lol 😂

[@SuperJaffro]

5:16 now all I can imagine is “new achievement unlocked*” some young and upcoming martial artist is going to make the elbow to the bicep knockout his Mt.Everest

[@imdoc7872]

I love how in shape these practitioners are in

[@thomohara9321]

I started off wondering how these guys lasted so long teaching this garbage. Then I realized there’s a whole lotta crazy people out there, wanting to believe it.

[@grigori951]

My answer is: Compassion for the conned contempt for conman (person)

[@RayHoven]

Love the content, please continue to keep them coming.

[@asphaltmilkshake4596]

The Dysentery Strike is actually one of the most hallowed and rare of techniques. Cultivating bacteria and parasites in your very chi takes masters of the art decades of intense dedication.

[@reyanjakhro783]

I am shocked. I personally know some friends of mine that have attended this school and claimed to be black belts. I never thought this was a Mcdojo I saw them wearing the Dojo gear on the back of thier sweatshirts. Wow

[@McDojoLife]

Wild nonsense right

[@annoyed707]

The strike into the shoulder peck area can be very painful, and the clavicle too, but an instant knockout is bogus.

[@mizukarate]

When I used to teach I did my best to eliminate the 🐂💩.

[@chrismayclin6397]

Students should demand authentic instruction and actual pressure testing of taught techniques, or else they are likely subscribing to a power fantasy short cut. I mean, you could blame the frauds out there for anything they want to sell you, but frauds will always be there. It’s up to the buyer to not be dumb enough to fall for it and demand real proof of product.

[@biglc034]

As someone who was born and raised in a cult, I believe that the majority of the blame falls on the con artist, but a certain degree of responsibility can be attributed to the followers. Children are exempt from this, and as they transition into adulthood, breaking free from the indoctrination of their youth becomes a formidable challenge. Nonetheless, they bear some responsibility (once well into adulthood) and should strive to develop a more skeptical mindset, learning to trust their intuition. Admittedly, this is easier said than done. For adults who fall victim to a con, a greater share of responsibility must be acknowledged. It is a common misconception that intelligence plays a significant role in avoiding being conned. The reality is that we all tend to default to trust and shy away from upsetting others or standing out. Even when we sense something amiss, we often dismiss it. It is crucial for everyone to explore those uneasy feelings and engage in investigation. However, ultimately, the primary fault lies with the conman. Also, we should refrain from victim blaming, trust me they already do that to themselves, as it only hurts them and can even lead them to not seek help or exposing the fraud.

[@RandyWinn42]

The question of "who is at fault?" hinges on what you mean by "fault". Of course the teacher is initially at fault for giving nonsense to the student; the student starts our merely being hopeful or gullible. I've done that. However, once you start teaching others, you have a responsibility to make sure what you're teaching is real. This goes double if you are collecting money for it.Therefore, once the student because a teacher, they are at fault for teaching nonsense.

[@guillermoletsworkitout3522]

Its both instructors is selling it but it is there fault for falling for it

[@TopShelfMontana]

i tried to check out these guys YT page but comments were turned off on their videos with 80-ish views.... wonder why

[@dalegribble60]

"I fear not the man that has practised 10,000 strikes to the bicep, but the man who practised 1 bicep strike 10,000 times." ~ Bryce Lee

[@danhoogfl]

Great as always. Curious what you think of Larkin's Target Focus Training. I'm skeptical and not considering it, but wonder. Some of the info seems useful, but the methods? I'm happy with a Krav Maga center near me that seems balanced, intense, and thorough, though I don't take advantage of the sparring sessions as much as I should.

[@me0101001000]

I wanna see Master Ken takes on these guys at some point

[@mdug7224]

I nearly passed out once because someone trapped the nerve in my elbow while training, but the only noise was the expletives out of my mouth.

[@v-doc5230]

I love how the "teachers" look at their students like "dude you are supposed to fall" and these then fall very theatrically. :D It is definitely the teachers fault. The students that stay probably do that because they do not want to admit to themselves they have wasted much time, they do not want to disappoint, etc.

[@richardsanchez5444]

Just remember, you can nullify the effects by alternating your big toes.

[@OverSooll]

These dudes had better invest in weight loss systems

[@adamcarrillo597]

Came from reddit bro, this shit is hilarious 😂 just subscribed.

[@tylerhays1842]

I think this is more so a matter of responsibility rather than fault. Instructors in these situations lack integrity and are responsible for taking advantage of people who, for whatever reason, don't know any better.

[@onerider808]

QOD: Morally, it’s the instructor’s fault. Practically, it is buyer/student beware.

[@ninjaswordtothehead]

Something I was told years ago, that has seemed to be true in my 15 years as a RN: The loser of a knife fight dies at the scene. The winner dies in the ambulance.

[@McDojoLife]

Look up the stats on the odds of dying from a knife inflicted wound. Surprising low. Now if you die on the spot that’s that. But getting medical attention you typically survive

[@ninjaswordtothehead]

@@McDojoLife I can believe that. Thinking about it, the ones not bleeding out probably didn't come to the hospital.

[@dennisbarrett6148]

Dilman explained that if someone was holding one big toe pointing up and one pointing down , they couldn't be knocked out.

[@onerider808]

5:30 epic reasoning battle with yourself. Love how the ‘other guy’ is in a yellow tinted world.

[@JiffyLubecorruption]

The ones to blame are the parents of the students they teach. The parents raised children with severe issues ranging from depression, severe self esteem issues to name a few. They seek approval and will lie to everyone including themselves to get it. Each one of their students are the outcasts of most social groups who's only real power is learning key words and catch phrases of various martial arts while being keyboard warriors. Now they are adults and have issues enough to lie to everyone while being taught more lies by a much better liar. The instructors are not as socially awkward and recognize the opportunity to rise up. They get their degree in bullshido and start training.

[@shrooman777]

I usually wouldn’t blame people for people for being gullible but if you fell because some guy said a magic word to you, it’s your fault.

[@roberttompkins9991]

I hate to say it, but the branch of Shotokan most of these charlatans descended from come from the group in Jacksonville Fl from which I earned my black belt. We don’t claim these guys at all. They used to complain to us that we trained too hard, made it too difficult to earn a black belt and we didn’t understand the “true meaning” or the bunkai of our karate. Yada yada yada. Ive met and attended their dojos many times. And even friendly with them. Once I was visiting in one of their dojos as a guest. They were all just sitting around digesting their last meals (I suppose) for a couple of hours. The entire time I was warming up. Doing a few kata, building a sweat, then I asked them “when does the class actually begin?” The main guy said this is training. And they made fun of me for building a sweat. I never EVER! Took a martial art class where actually working out and being athletic was scoffed at. As far as not understanding “the true meaning of a strike or a block” some of which they claimed wouldn’t work against a “non believer” or … you’ve heard all the Dilmanesque excuses. My Shotokan cohort would always respond. Hitting someone hard and fast works every time whether they believe it or not! Who argues against hitting hard and learning how to take a shot? Those guys. That’s who! They’re just plain weird. Ironic they like to include us in their lineage, but criticize what we do. Truth is, we have always weeded out the weak in my dojo. We didn’t kick weaker students out. We just kept the standards high enough so the lazy would quit. It took a while to earn rank, and honestly, we never put much credence in belt or rank. These jokers are a certain remnants of former students of my sensei father and his sensei before him that were not up to snuff. So they created this shniz to gain some sort of following. And when they added Kenpo and something they used to call “Tuite”. They became like 8-10th deg black belts in just a few months. Like they went to a seminar and voila! Your an expert now! It started out as “touch and pressure point knockouts” and eventually evolved into “ningggg!!!!” 😂 and I think I might have mentioned on your platform once before my story of one of them trying to knock me out with chi from 10 feet away. It didn’t work. But he did claim I started to look wobbly to him. The self deception is strong with them.

[@nickp8659]

With how many pressure points the body apparently has, its amazing people arent dropping all over the place!

[@ericscott626]

Just looking at the elbow to the arm knockout and I'm left with this question: Why would you elbow the guy in the arm instead of in the face? I mean really the guys head is wide open. Hit him in the face with your elbow, definitely will cause serious damage, and most likely a knockout. So why wouldn't you just go for the wide open head shot?

[@zipper4146]

I think that both are to blame. Obviously the teacher is ripping people off, but the student has to realize this doesn't work the very first time they are the aggressor in the self-defense drills.

[@davidnazario6646]

I remember back in the 1980s here in Orlando schools gave out black belts like candy 🍭

[@oldpurplebelt]

Those leg punch knockouts are legit. You know you get hit in the head and your legs stop working. This is just the opposite you get hit in the leg and your head stops working. It's chi 😂

[@honorableink]

It’s my fault. I never studied under George Dillman and now I stand no chance against the chi masters. I like how all the knockouts are guard pulls to side control.

[@bamberlamb6512]

To be fair to Evan Pantazzi I myself had a catastrophic case of the shits from someone hitting me, it was repeatedly in the liver over a really long sparring session, but I'm pretty sure Evans bicep punch way must be totally legitimate.

[@DeKiesel]

My favorite part is these "knocked out" people sitting up by themselves. Cuz lets be real, there is no way the instructors could sit them up this easily if they were actually knocked out.