McLaren MP4-12C PPI by McMedics

[@glenmeyer5079]

Always interesting to hear from experts on cars. Hand made cars will always have some differences. Great video.

[@normalguysupercar]

Yes indeed

[@kriskorsmo]

He really seems to know the car well. Having someone like that spell out all the issues before you buy an expensive car is invaluable. I had a PPI done on a 430 and it probably saved me a small fortune.

[@normalguysupercar]

Yup it's usually a great idea to get a PPI.

[@kinosgarage]

Saw a 12C at COTA yesterday that’s been meticulously maintained with 40k track miles on it. The car runs 2:18’s all day. The new owner of your 12C is a good friend. Great job guys.

[@normalguysupercar]

Thanks! It's a great car

[@fightingcarrot]

that is moving on a production car, damn. Did it have many modifications?

[@kinosgarage]

@@fightingcarrot stock and religiously maintained.

[@fightingcarrot]

@@kinosgarage that is seriously awesome, hope to see him out there some time.

[@grantdavies6081]

Sean did my PPI and was great; he knows these cars really well. The PPI allowed me to negotiate on the price since I was going to fix the issues. Had my 2014 12c spider for about 4 months and love driving it, it's an absolute blast.

[@normalguysupercar]

Nice! Glad to hear you're enjoying it.

[@LEGOCAMARO]

How’s the top holding up thinking about getting one but extremely worried about the extra complexity of the mechanism going out.

[@grantdavies6081]

@@LEGOCAMAROit’s been great no issues and two years of happy driving . It is harder to work on than a coupe , less room

[@kevinmanning8214]

Here I was drinking my Sunday morning coffee asking “WHERE’S MY SUNDAY MORNING NORMAL GUY”?!?!!! Ask and yee shall receive. 😂

[@normalguysupercar]

Lol yup

[@ducbox572]

This guy is a McLaren savant and pretty entertaining. Hopefully you'll have a reason to have him on again.

[@normalguysupercar]

I suspect that will happen.

[@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921]

Fantastic transparency.

[@normalguysupercar]

Thanks

[@WildDigger]

Loved seeing a expert go over it. Learned a ton. Thanks for sharing. 👍Matt

[@normalguysupercar]

You bet

[@cuttingedgeinnovationstati5208]

It's always a treat to see someone like Sean working there craft and knowledge. These early cars look like a great candidate for Antigravity batteries.

[@normalguysupercar]

Well, McLaren has their own proprietary Lithium batteries so AGB won't work on them unfortunately. :(

[@cuttingedgeinnovationstati5208]

@@normalguysupercar good to know. I did hear Sean mention it being a lithium battery. Just looking for opportunities to help you guys plug product.

[@normalguysupercar]

@@cuttingedgeinnovationstati5208 I appreciate that. 😁

[@justin4180]

Great video Dan - really enjoyed this one! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@normalguysupercar]

You bet

[@DeeperImageAutomotive]

McMedics are awesome guys and truly know these cars inside out. I've met Kevin who is very close to where I live and have been to their ATL shop. It was thanks to Sean's videos online of him sharing what to look for, his experience of owning a 12C for over 4 years, that gave me the confidence to buy my own 12C and I've loved every minute of it. Have the PPI done, call the local McLaren dealer with the VIN and ask for the service history, and do your own inspection. After that, just make sure you stay current on the maintenance like any car, and enjoy the smiles per gallon. Thank you for sharing!

[@normalguysupercar]

You bet!

[@sarahdell4042]

Generate content, and lead people to your dealer while being transparent. When the internet is actually useful! Bravo

[@normalguysupercar]

Thank you! We're trying

[@philipparana9225]

You can 100 percent match any paint if you go to a good shop, you use a spectrometer and an existing panel. Those Metallics would require a blend but today there are so many oem metallics painters are getting used to them

[@normalguysupercar]

Ah ok

[@gregwang168]

PPIs are definitely a necessity for any and all super car purchase! And the Dealers of these super cars should all be required to take the time and learn everything about the car they sell, which they can simply do from being involved and asking questions about the car during a PPI just like what Dan did in this video. Kudos to Dan!👏👏👍👍😎🏎Because there are just way too many buyers of these super cars nowadays that are way more knowledgeable about these super cars than the Dealerships that sells them.

[@normalguysupercar]

Thanks! I just like learning stuff... But agreed, it should be something dealerships desire to do.

[@pabbip9]

Man I need to find a guy like that for Porsche’s he’s so detailed I love it. I called a couple independent shops near me for ppis and they didn’t rub me the right way but went with one and they didn’t even bore scope the car even tho it was a common issue on that year Porsche.

[@normalguysupercar]

Ah yeah it's hard to find the right people

[@michaelbutcher9343]

My wife could find all the problems with that car...it’s her superpower to point out things that are wrong with my cars

[@normalguysupercar]

Lol!

[@benlee6500]

No pain no gain.... that Mclaren is certainly going through years of hardwork hard drive and weather whatever storm...Dan you and your team can do wonders and nail these issues without much trouble....greeting from Kuala Lumpur Malaysia....

[@normalguysupercar]

Thanks

[@Z32andCG6]

I didn't expect him to have that much knowledge honestly. By the end I expected him to call the worker that originally assembled the car and ask why he missed a bolt 😄

[@normalguysupercar]

LOL!

[@brianiswrong]

Hardest thing must be a seller showings ppi guy around your car.

[@normalguysupercar]

Na I don't mind.

[@JSAFIXIT]

PPIs can be fairly expensive on higher end cars, but they can easily pay for themselves. I live in Wisconsin and dealers here are required to do them, but you can't trust them, I've seen so many falsified.

[@normalguysupercar]

Yeah I wouldn't trust that

[@johnmorrison27]

Brilliant content as usual team 👍👍

[@normalguysupercar]

Thank you

[@XennialGuy]

To my knowledge, the difference between the windshields is not spider vs coupe, it's whether you had satellite radio equipped from the factory. The extra antennas in the windshield are needed for satellite radio.

[@normalguysupercar]

Hmm possibly so

[@HANNON1066]

Would love to hear Thorny motorsports opinion on what was said in this video..

[@normalguysupercar]

Ok

[@jamcarz8982]

That color is absolutely stunning!

[@normalguysupercar]

It really is

[@ndpesicgroup]

The engine bay always gave me the impression of "do not enter"...it was great having the undercarriage panels and wheel wells removed to see a bit of it's insides...

[@normalguysupercar]

Yeah it's not bad

[@Austjamlew]

Sean is literally the best in the game 💪🏾

[@normalguysupercar]

Agreed

[@JerryCecco]

People are not scared of supercars, we are scared of the HUGE repair bills #neveroutofwarranty

[@normalguysupercar]

I suppose that really comes with the territory of most supercars.

[@anthonym484]

Great video! I think you guys are going to be really successful in the super car business.

[@normalguysupercar]

Thank you

[@Emadavid]

I'm going to get him inspect my McLaren 650s

[@normalguysupercar]

Good move

[@smiconsulting8434]

I’m going to have Kevin do mine. Spoke to him today and he’s a great guy and super knowledgeable with these McLarens.

[@machtschnell7452]

Cool guy who seems to be well versed in McLarens.

[@normalguysupercar]

Yup he definitely knows his shit

[@dalamar6228]

Don’t forget Sean has a great KZbin channel called EMF Autos. Awesome content there for hands on work with these cards.

[@normalguysupercar]

Yup

[@ChrisLoomisDirtFlix]

That's awesome, love to see what's under those panels... kinda makes me want to look at mine :)

[@normalguysupercar]

Yeah I like seeing their guts lol

[@freddaniali]

He is right, you cannot match that paint no matter how hard you try.

[@normalguysupercar]

Yeah, it's really impossible.

[@badcarrera]

This was a GREAT video! I learned a lot about these cars. I am considering one of these or a Gallardo or a 430. Ferraris are just so high $$$ right now and as far as the fun factor for the buck I can't justify the extra $30-$50,000 more for the 430. Struggling with the decision. Keep educating us fellas!!

[@normalguysupercar]

You bet

[@scottl.6721]

Why is your garage space call "the Howard"?

[@normalguysupercar]

That's the name is the place

[@d1a1n1n1]

really enjoyed this video - thought it was great to watch his PPI and the results, now the BIG question is - do they do Lamborghini? and if not can they recommend a trusted company that does??? thank you!

[@normalguysupercar]

I don't think they do Lamborghinis.

[@edrperformance]

Love Sean & gonna have him help me on my 650s soon but he’s 100% wrong on deck lid! You 100% can get the rear deck lid BLACK from factory. My 12c was. It was #4 car MSO Project Alpha 1 of 6 cars. Came factory gloss black deck lid & roof. Sorry Sean still love ya 👍🏽-Eric

[@normalguysupercar]

Ah nice

[@bjb8182]

Grate video with some handy information!

[@normalguysupercar]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@rposton919]

Price dropping steadily. Keep inspecting....

[@normalguysupercar]

Lol

[@SacrificesNVices]

How much does a PPi cost from Sean ? I’m trying to buy a 720s mclaren (2023) soon as my bank lift poa over my funds

[@normalguysupercar]

You'll have to ask him

[@blackericdenice]

You need more lights

[@normalguysupercar]

Yup

[@dzikijohnny]

So will you be having him do PPI’s with on your McLarens from now on? And would that be a selling feature? Almost like a certification.

[@normalguysupercar]

No, we won't. Again, if we pay for it, it's biased. But we certainly welcome prospective buyers to hire his services.

[@dzikijohnny]

@@normalguysupercar No. I meant for when you buy one to sell to know what your getting.

[@normalguysupercar]

@@dzikijohnny ah yeah, well the problem is many wholesale dealers won't let you. Plus it would really get expensive doing that over and over.

[@dzikijohnny]

@@normalguysupercar Ok...do you still do the buying consult/shopping...say someone comes to you saying I want a 458 or a 570 will you go find one or are you too busy?

[@philipparana9225]

@@normalguysupercar honestly most ppl don't care or would never know about 90 percent of this. I'm not sure all these little things will even decrease the value.

[@shoobidyboop8634]

How much did the PPI cost?

[@normalguysupercar]

I don't know, I didn't pay for it.

[@rboddington]

Imagine if someone made a reliable well built super car?

[@normalguysupercar]

Well many are.

[@bassntruck]

This must be why Sean is not doing audio videos anymore. LOL

[@McMedics]

I am in fact quite busy doing McLaren things!

[@normalguysupercar]

Lol I bet

[@jesvans]

interesting stuff. did the guy buy it ?

[@normalguysupercar]

Yes

[@eroseberry74]

Great video.

[@normalguysupercar]

Thanks

[@jwescott1]

Sounds like Dan is closer to living with a Mclaren in his garage. Welcome to the dark side of exotic car ownership.

[@normalguysupercar]

Lol it was in my garage... 😉

[@severinhendrikx7893]

I never saw a Guy being so happy with everything wrong with the car…. There is a $20000 bill for you

[@normalguysupercar]

Lol not even close.

[@severinhendrikx7893]

@@normalguysupercar in the end it made a little more sense because you were selling and don’t want to surprise the next owner. I did the same with my Porsche 928. Felt good!

[@cyuiyuwyguiyui]

Never heard this from a car dealer before: "come take our car apart i dont care" :o)

[@normalguysupercar]

Yup we're trying to be better

[@organiccold]

Interesting what gets picked up in a PPI :)

[@normalguysupercar]

Right?

[@philipparana9225]

This is not a normal PDI.

[@kottuning3294]

McMedics is legit. Thats who i was gonna fly in when i was looking lol. Glad you found him

[@normalguysupercar]

He was actually hired by the buyer, not us.

[@TheLeeattwood]

Very interesting

[@normalguysupercar]

I think so too!

[@akashanuragi5602]

! Stop being too perfect

[@tuomasholo]

BoLoS best of luck on sale.

[@normalguysupercar]

Thanks!

[@James-mf9to]

Yikes! This was in some serious wreck for that much work. Not quite what the first video showed.

[@normalguysupercar]

No there was no wreck. Probably vandalism or something stupid like that

[@James-mf9to]

Really? The whole rear end was repainted, bumper removed, and a replaced wind shield from vandalism… seems weird.

[@FFX--vd4ll]

Thats the Nature, they build cars in "England" ;-) Gott bewahre uns vor Sturm und Wind, sowie vor Autos die aus England sind. ;-) Nice Checkup.

[@normalguysupercar]

Yup

[@shovel_head80]

$3,500 for a battery?

[@kevinmanning8214]

SUPER CAR Baby!!

[@normalguysupercar]

Yup it's a lithium battery

[@shovel_head80]

@@normalguysupercar wow I going into the battery businesses . That’s a lot of mark up

[@georgespalding7640]

Must have an electric motor in addition to the Engine?

[@shovel_head80]

@@georgespalding7640 I wonder what voltage rating?

[@qmccall0328]

I would not buy any McLaren unless McLaren Qualified - way too risky. A guy in our exotic car club has one of these and just dropped 30K on a repair to the suspension.

[@normalguysupercar]

I would trust McMedics more than a dealership

[@qmccall0328]

@@normalguysupercar McLaren Qualified means you get a warranty - so no out of pocket cost if one those ridiculous high repairs happen. People severely underestimate McLaren repair cost for the most simplistic repair. I love McLaren but without a Qualified warranty - that is no for me. As soon I locate a 720s in the color I desire and Qualified I am buying. Most McLarens can be Qualified at any dealership if they past the inspection. The mp4-12c may not be eligible anymore because of the age. This guy is offering a great service and I will hire to inspect my upcoming purchase.

[@McMedics]

What if I told you the things you see as warranty claims are inflated, or even misdiagnosed? Example, the warranty for 1 year on this car is $7,000. Let's say in a worst case scenario the DLD was bad. That's a $7,000 job for me, but it's a $14,000 dealer job. Very rarely will you spend $7,000 on a repair with me so you'll always come up cheaper than the warranty cost. Even if you had a worst case engine out cam phaser replacement at $10k, that's way less than 2 years of warranty. To have a legitimate $30k suspension repair, he had to have had a P1 or Senna, and even that is stretching it to full retail and milking labor.

[@qmccall0328]

@@McMedics Fair enough. I always figured they were adding the Mclaren labor and parts tax. The qualified is usually around 5-7 a year depending on the car. I am always quoted different prices. I will definitely reach out when I found the 720s I am wanting. I appreciate your expertise and knowledge. For so long there was not an ability to have independent Mclaren service.

[@qmccall0328]

@@McMedics I just talk to the car club friend. He said it was the entire steering rack and something else in the suspension of his MP4-12c.

[@peacetheory5544]

If you become super successful, will you change your channel name to “Rich-Guy-Supercar”? Have a good one Dan!

[@normalguysupercar]

Normal isn't only defined by wealth. :)

[@themaseratiinn5743]

That garage is too dark....You can't see s&^*it..

[@normalguysupercar]

Yup

[@McMedics]

If you'd like to learn more about McLaren stuff, my KZbin channel is EMFAutos and I regularly post what I'm working on, on Instagram, same handle, as well.

[@normalguysupercar]

It was a pleasure meeting you Sean!