Jamie / Sim / Gief / Lily / Marisa /Blanka / Kimberly SF6 season 2.5 Changes explained

[@yagami999913]

Yeah, it's better this way. Don't wanna end up with Brian F's 2 hours long "clip". 😂

[@bowserjr476]

dawg quite literally my thought i had 10 seconds ago 💀💀💀💀

[@Puntersnatch]

The clips channel is so you get his full thoughts on the whole patch. He'll have the usual edit up soon on the main channel

[@problemsnearyou8899]

Don’t disrespect the most hyped “clip” 😅

[@deltapromasterlauj4848]

these breakdowns r what ur subscribers want not the 3 hrs shitshow 😂

[@Rachis01]

This is still 25 minutes lol. If Brian time stamped his 3 hour video then you'd have instant access to everything in one video. Peak braindead bitching just to bitch

[@MCMuraFGC]

I have debated since the start of the day whether i should just do 1 video or split them up cause the patch ended up being a lot bigger than i expected

[@EAprima]

You've done a great job covering this. Can you do a video talking about the Universal Changes too? It would be great to hear your take on those universal changes and how it will benefit the game in the way Capcom communicated. From my checking, I don't see much of a change. Oh yeah. I think this update is Capcom quadrupling down on Throw Loops being here to stay.

[@MKoshty]

you could just compile them all at the end

[@1337hacks]

@@MKoshtyyup this suggestion right here! 15-20 minutes first is great

[@yasniellopez9690]

Jamie's drink buff is really good. It gives him more reward off of all of his lights and cr.mk. At minimum, doing lp -> light rekka drink ender almost gives him 1 and a half bars of drive gauge. For combos with drive cancels, since the drive gauge immediately regens when the combo ends, he can regain drive back very quickly if done with any drink ender as it saves a lot of time getting that drive gauge back. This also essentially discounts his EX moves, almost all of them give you enough advantage and distance to take a drink. EX rekka: 1.5* bars, EX Palm: 1.5* bar, EX DP: 1.5* bars. Also, super art 2 gives him one full bar of drive gauge. One more thing, they buffed jamies lv 4 so that any drink ender, grants one full bar of drive gauge. Addendum: The change to super art 2, makes it so that as long that you have a sliver of drive gauge, you can do a drive rush follow up everytime with ex palm and not get burnt out.

[@pockystyx4087]

Marisa getting her "big buttons big damage" identity back from Bison is nice; and ironically the nerfs to him are indirect buffs to her, alongside the buffs she got.

[@javoclean960]

The Lily Target Combo buff gives her better routing for DI combos, since now you can do jump hk into FHP from a drive impact crumble

[@ledgee8386]

Thanks for the run down vids! Your opinion on the changes is always great to hear.

[@geoffreytasker2097]

Kim Main here, A few things I found in a quick test last night that Mura didn't mention: 1. They changed the animation for vagabond (the chop) when its distanced properly to let you know when you can combo into St. LK. 2. Because of the air Level 2 super change, OD run the auto follow up into kick can now be canceled into her level 2 on the second hit mid screen. this did not work before. 3. Hop Kick had its Hit box extended and the hurt box at the bottom was removed. Its basically a low crush now and can go over Terry and Juri’s fireballs more consistently. It also build nearly a full bar of drive on hit/block. Seems their intention was for this move to be abused more. 4 The run LK follow up had its hit box extended only during combos. Not sure what that’s for.

[@MCMuraFGC]

Goddammit completely forgot these 2 but its been a very long day and she was dead last but i knew i read em somewhere 😅

[@geoffreytasker2097]

@@MCMuraFGC All good my guy, just wanted to help out.

[@remylebeau34]

I haven't tested yet but I'm thinking the run Lk (I think I heard it was od run Lk not sure) could end up leading to some bigger cpmbos from juggles with Dr crhp, as far as I know it was never really a problem to land in combos so maybe it's just a way for her to get a bit more damage

[@geoffreytasker2097]

@@remylebeau34 it is OD run, I forgot to specify that. I'll edit it

[@remylebeau34]

@geoffreytasker2097 no worries mate I've watched a few different vids of the patch notes and took away a few things, I don't know if mura mentioned this but I think I saw that dfmk is now a knockdown on punish counter, is that true? If it is I'm not sure I like it tbh but i dunno it might have some uses, I found a vid of the hitbox adjustments too, these changes are looking good! Edit: forgot to say, cheers for your tips here too, would've probably missed a lot of this

[@drakel5943]

I watched all your patch update videos this morning and subbed. You certainly earned it! Hope you are getting some rest now, seems like you had a busy night!

[@thebeluvdtrex]

Omfg capcom actually did kim good this time

[@Toshigawadotcom]

It’s about time

[@ewoksoldier]

My baby Kim got some good stuff

[@dorkasaurus_rex]

Kimberly finally added to SF 6

[@epiczombies34]

​@dorkasaurus_rex the slide no longer auto suicides on hit

[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

​@@dorkasaurus_rex she finally out of SFV 😭

[@djsugarbear6715]

Rejoice! Kim will kick more arse now

[@g9hptoey]

Thank you Mura

[@gabrielsteffe2651]

Mura with the tech!

[@player8967]

I wish it was 1 bar of recovery for every drink because of the risk vs reward when drinking

[@alainchristienemendoza9982]

Also, if you land a hit using his OD palm, you get 2 free drinks while you also get to refund a bar of drive. That's already a good buff. Imagine if it's one bar of drive per drink, that's 2 free drink levels at the cost of 0 drive, that's a steal.

[@djuansillimon8317]

@@alainchristienemendoza9982as a low masters Jamie main. Most of the cast can punish double drink. Granted not all can but it’s not free at all. But I agree 2 bars would be dumb. IMO jamie needs more damage off of some of his frame traps, a way to reliably deal with fireball, and an actual safe way to end block strings. Literally all of his combo Enders are negative and leave you in punish range

[@Matt-x6c]

Thank you for updates! I feel like more than half the cast kind of got meh changes and some of the top tier didn’t really get nerfed that much. I still see Cammy/Akuma/Ken/Akuma/Ed/Rashid/gief top tier. Idk I might be wrong but maybe Juri might be in that conversation.

[@universalman5861]

Ed, Cammy and Bison are no longer top tier. Ed's flicker and Cammy's cmp are nerfed to the ground. Endingwalker is going back to Ryu and Punk is going to transition to another character. Cammy now gets mauled by ALL the shotos, JP, gief and even blanka.No serious player is going to play Cammy or Ed now.

[@yagami999913]

Yeah, the top tiers are still the same. These nerfs are slaps on the wrist in the grand scheme of things. Don't believe the doomers. 😅

[@Matt-x6c]

@ I don’t agree! Bison damage got Nerf a little bit, but he still gonna be oppressive, he’s still gonna have great oki. You might have to use your brain a little bit more, but I still think he’s top-tier. Cammys nerfs aren’t major, she’s still gonna be awesome at with punishing, she’s still gonna have her oki and pressure. You’re entitled to your opinion, but my opinion is that the top tier characters didn’t get Nerf enough in the low tier characters didn’t get buffenough.

[@Puntersnatch]

Nerfing akumas walk speed and demon flip oki are huge changes.

[@OutCastSwagg]

@@universalman5861lol chill bro

[@PGO_Gaming]

Jamie will never burn out.

[@SliverOwl]

They finally buffed my girl Kim 😊😊

[@Zachreus]

Kim's crouching light punch change also means that she can now check 2mk mashed after her light string by checking with her 5 frame standing light kick, meaning she has more interaction ability vs the top tiers ajd has to hold fewer mixups after her own offense

[@tuxpup1585]

she could already do this

[@marzblaq7267]

My girl Kimberly got buffed! Didn’t expect this day to come 🔥🔥🔥

[@pwnchmonkey1]

The kim elbow changed because on screen freeze from dr you'd not get the timing and you'd just throw medium punch and it would get you killed. This just makes sure it comes out as intended

[@remylebeau34]

I was talking about this forever 😂 Capcom heard my complaints haha I'm glad this is sorted it was so frustrating knowing if the elbow you input had come out you would have landed exactly where you needed to stopping their drive rush and getting a counter hit for the combo. These changes all seem solid so far

[@pwnchmonkey1]

@remylebeau34 i think they have her to much honestly but I'm excited to have it all for awhile. The changes to slide and run are HUGE. Target combo into ex run is a real frame trap now too

[@remylebeau34]

@pwnchmonkey1 the run change is huge, glad to hear that it's a frame trap from Tc cuz she never had any safe way to cancel that, it's nice that things will feel less of a risk now, she felt kinda high risk low reward so hopefully this makes it better, and the hop kick and slide should help with neutral especially against Ed haha he was a nightmare to fight against.

[@pwnchmonkey1]

@remylebeau34 oh if you haven't lapped Hop kick yet you're gonna be excited. It actually goes over buttons as well now. You can hop over crMk

[@remylebeau34]

@pwnchmonkey1 I'm on some slow wifi 🤣 gonna take me forever to download this beast of an update. It sounds amazing, this move needed buffs, you should see the overly elaborate setups I was trying to use to get it to jump over moves before haha I can't wait to try it out, the patch notes didnt really explain it too well tbh I would like to see the hitboxes

[@jamgUNoh]

Capcom giving jamie a gun next patch to make him relevant in the pro scene

[@YunisRajab]

Don't think that'll help with how drunk he is

[@juice6521]

They better give a gun to the TO because that's the only way you're going to convince anyone to play him.

[@BrewSir]

Good work! Hope you get plenty of rest after putting out these videos so rapidly

[@GEMINIVice1]

Capcom….the problem with Marisa was NEVER her damage. And trying to ‘buff’ her indirectly through system changes or slapping high tier characters on the wrists w/ small nerfs isn’t it either.

[@Fk8td]

Also with more drinks on Jamie his meter builds faster.

[@snap_drama346]

I still find it hard to do mp in physcho crusher with bison why is it they can't fix this in updates?

[@stefanobailey740]

I don't really get the usefulness of the Lily changes. 2lp just makes it have the same on hit frame data as 5lp. The new combo does hardly any damage, so i don't think it is worth doing in place of condor spire as you get a better mixup. If you do an air reset into condor spire after the new combo, you can see it from a mile away because of the distance, so can be drive impacted. I never used the target combo ever, but i tested it in the corner and you are +2 after a dash i think. If you catch them airbourne, it is even more. I don't know if it has always been like that

[@SFO_Dragonman]

The new combo does a little bit if you have the opponent cornered at point blank range and get a crouching LK starter with only one wind stock. Also if you don't want to spend drive or are burnt out. - At point blank range in the corner from a crouching LK starter you can get windclad LP DP into level 1 super. It's a bit more damage than just doing the lights into super. - You can also do the windclad LP DP into a windless HP DP. Again for one wind stock and no drive gauge or super meter spent, this is more damage than she had previously from that starter. Pretty damn minor in the scheme of things but hey, it's something I guess.

[@SFO_Dragonman]

Also mid screen if you do the reset Mura demonstrated - Juggle CR HP into windless spire, you recover in time to counter DI if they DI on landing. If they block, windless MK spire is +2. If they parry immediately, they will perfect parry MK spire, but you can do LK spire instead to whiff and then SPD the parry attempt, so there is a mindgame there. Reversal DP will hit all spires, but you could juggle with cr HP, cancel into drive rush and then block as another option there.

[@stefanobailey740]

@@SFO_Dragonman thanks a lot for the explanation, I appreciate it. I will see how I can incorporate this into her game.

[@cedricgaming5106]

Jamie went back to his master shun di to get that drink treatment

[@VicenteHeredia-o4d]

No Marisa anti air buff, that's all i wanted

[@DevilRising]

Capcom said you gonna eat some throw loops 😈

[@marstudios7879]

What about Manon and Honda??

[@Jamali1010]

Yaay

[@Gleapgoogleplusisgone]

It seems like Marisa isn't bottom 1-2 anymore! It's glorious

[@Shuja_R1M]

Your description for this video is inaccurate bro

[@MCMuraFGC]

@@Shuja_R1M thank you, adjusted it

[@ITNoetic]

As a former Marisa main... I will continue playing Ryu instead

[@daquancurry7805]

Yet again marisa get damage, something she never needed

[@JacobHancock-d1u]

Better oki stuff and shimmy tools

[@VicenteHeredia-o4d]

​@@JacobHancock-d1u Just buff the anti air, the change to the d.HP was really innecesary

[@JacobHancock-d1u]

@@VicenteHeredia-o4d it’s funny

[@jherrenor]

So all the top tier characters got nerfed a bit. Fantastic! Except Guile. He got buffed?! :(

[@shads123]

The zangeif change is the stupidest thing Zangeif is anti meta but in a fun way. Capcom being capcom Play our way or the highway

[@phaze12490]

Lily target combo is EXACTLY the same its still no point in using it c.lp change does absolutely nothing for her They said they want to give her more combos and said hey yall know she got a target combo right??? 😂

[@JacobHancock-d1u]

Marisa is so funny

[@Puntersnatch]

The kimberly changes are crazy. Shes already annoying to fight now shes getting even more braindead

[@thebeluvdtrex]

Not really, you just don't know how to react well enough.

[@Puntersnatch]

@thebeluvdtrex yeah a spammable sweep that's now safe is totally not braindead. And the hop kick? Whatever you want to tell yourself buddy

[@djsugarbear6715]

Braindead? You clearly don't know this character