this video just made my day. i felt so sorry for dantes everytime tarzaned flamed him like an older brother
@KZHLeeSin Жыл бұрын
yes
@sator6754 Жыл бұрын
This is the Jaymo x Tarzaned double coaching I imagine in an alternate Universe where Jaymo isn't mentally ill and is actually a legit challenger player 😂
@KZHLeeSin Жыл бұрын
hmm
@PuffDaGoat Жыл бұрын
DON'T disrespect jayGOAT like that again or else 😠😠😠
@JungleVods Жыл бұрын
@@PuffDaGoat jaymo a goat for the top laners dont forget it
@zenyatta5064 Жыл бұрын
And doesn't touch kids
@BooskeyRt Жыл бұрын
@@zenyatta5064 is he legit a pedo? I keep seeing comments about that lmao, tell me the story if he is
@c.nr. Жыл бұрын
I did not expect tarzaned to say such kind words to you lmao
@teddyzhang3091 Жыл бұрын
Tarz respects anyone who tries hard and is good at the game he’s like Tyler nice irl but in game not a good person
@garrettwright9122 Жыл бұрын
@@teddyzhang3091 When he isn't calling people slurs in private and threatening their career by unfairly striking their content, I'm sure he is a very nice dude.
@chris8543 Жыл бұрын
@@garrettwright9122the slur thing was years ago, he admitted that he was a reject 20y old And the strike was fair chase is a leech.
@emptyarms6113 Жыл бұрын
Zaned is a stream personality bro
@ghibli5111 Жыл бұрын
@@emptyarms6113 lmfao no
@Alessio_아레씨오 Жыл бұрын
i imagine Dantes having eyes going two different ways while listening Agurin and Tarz at the same time and im not surprised he couldnt take a proper decision, its like the voice were back
@unruh_8470 Жыл бұрын
It's like the voices are back and are stronger than ever
@the_sinner8610 Жыл бұрын
It was actually a very nice vibe. You should do this more often. The differing thought processes are very interesting
@leonsixt2744 Жыл бұрын
So far the main disagreements were the theoretical perfect play and ignoring bad players vs adapting to the teammates mistakes to get the most value and impact out of it.
@abcdefghilihgfedcba Жыл бұрын
And the level 1. First clear.
@frawstey281 Жыл бұрын
ye p much, imo tarzaned has a stronger point in terms of solo q. bad players are annoying because unless you are 20 kills turbo carry you HAVE to play around them or else the game is just doomed
@nearlyalmostdead Жыл бұрын
@@frawstey281but that is definitely dependant on which elo you play in. I would argue that the mindset of Agurin fits his elo really well, but both mindsets have a good foundation
@deejaydee1578 Жыл бұрын
@@nearlyalmostdeadexactly. Agurin is a better competive player, while Tarzaned is a solo queue 1v9 streamer
@DasNasenLP Жыл бұрын
Its like GTO-Poker vs Exploitative Poker theory
@jerryholden4317 Жыл бұрын
That was surprisingly respectful from Tarzaned, at least towards Argurin.
@adz5856 Жыл бұрын
yea because Agurin is 10x better and he cant say shit
@runswithevelynn4869 Жыл бұрын
Argurin is a very good player and I think most players who play the jungle role respect him also. Tarz is also a very good player and people should respect him as such. They are some of the few really amazing western junglers we have who stream it. So its really cool to see them talk about the game!
@jerryholden4317 Жыл бұрын
@runswithevelynn4869 everyone knows Argurin is good, I was just surprised Tarzaned dropped the persona as much as he did. Tarzaned was pretty genuine in his thought about the game and about argurin, he stayed in character in terms of trolling Dantes, but I honestly expected him to be more troll and less real than he was because... well I've watched tarzaned videos before lol.
@Shxrpnesss Жыл бұрын
loved this, i didnt think there was genuine beef or dislike for yall during korea, but seeing everyone in a call getting along is dope
@bos7522 Жыл бұрын
There's Solarbacca vs Adrian in the toplane and I have to watch an autist playing Hecarim while he's being co-piloted by a sociopath and the jungler who weaksides me every game in EUW... damn
@weirdlypicturedbeing2122 Жыл бұрын
According to another commenter, Solarbacca uploaded that game?
@KsiAhmed Жыл бұрын
love the content , my 3 favourite junglers in 1 vid
@benkhessibghaith4664 Жыл бұрын
hello , i pref agurin u know why , bc he is more pro , he can turn back the game in a loss , tarzan is a bully , dante he is a focus enemy jungler mental , but agurin he have some of all , if can know how to win , agaist a huge loss game , u are the best never tilt and lose mental u are soo good
@OsvaldoBayerista Жыл бұрын
@@benkhessibghaith4664totally, and rank 1 korea prove it
@ChristoFerrus9 ай бұрын
i wanna thank dante for this vid, it was so huge to hear them ball their diferent opinions and why they think about them. this should like almost get an academic award
@trekt9641 Жыл бұрын
dies "getting hit by the bubble is very... ... ... suboptimal"
@justinoh9483 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing collab that I always wanted :')
@Ahridot Жыл бұрын
never thought this colab would ever happen, AND NOW i need moreeeee!
@MassGainerNA Жыл бұрын
watching Tarzaned play in Challenger NA is the best thing you can do to make you feel better, his people no joke run it down on repeat for hours on him it's actually super entertaining because Dr. Zaned knows it's happening and still gets pissed
@ChristoFerrus9 ай бұрын
im soon 28yo, ive been watching league content since i was a kid, and this is legit the best concept vid out there, i wanna give this 1000000likes
@ChristoFerrus9 ай бұрын
im learning alot
@mele1bxb1 Жыл бұрын
Dantes bringing in 2 best jglers from NA and EU to coach him was the best 🤣
@Kuwaschima Жыл бұрын
ngl this video got me dead laughing dante: fck with passive jungler im the gigachad also dante: LETS GO AGURIIIIIIIIIIIN COACH ME!! i love u guys ngl :D
@Huayi-x3p6 ай бұрын
such a great video! I watch a lot of your streams but my low elo brain doesn't come close to understanding your decision makings. This video is so helpful! Made me think about jungling more strategically
@quinnpearson5387 Жыл бұрын
Now lets see Agurin coach Tarzaned and Tarzaned coach Agurin
@einfachyusi5961 Жыл бұрын
there would be nothing to coach outside of very small things like perfect clear etc they have totaly diffrent playstyles
@RedSheep-dz8hb Жыл бұрын
then lets make agurin play the way tarzaned tells him to and the otherway around, wothout complainments, even if they would do it different themselves
@vladimir452611 ай бұрын
@@einfachyusi5961 then why pro players get coached
@Poem-Tree11 ай бұрын
@@vladimir4526I think those coaches just do vod reviews
@stuartcollins7616 Жыл бұрын
For me the key takeaway of this video is that Tarzened and Agurin aren't divided by "proactive" and "reactive" jungling playstyles. Most of their different opinions on pathing are based on minimally different understandings of what the results of the decisions would be. 9/10 of their differences when they listened to what the other one said they either agreed or said "are you sure that would happen?" they never said "I think that's too reactive" or "I'm not comfortable and would prefer to react to what others are doing". If anything, I would say the main difference in their playstyles is champion pool. EDIT: In fact at the end, Agurin said to make the play that he believed was correct, and Tarzaned told him to react off his team mates. Sounds pretty reactive playstyle to me. Tarzaned is a reactive jungler confirmed.
@JustRightClicks8 ай бұрын
I would love to have such deep dives for the adc role. Awesome video!
@g.o.6379 Жыл бұрын
buying pink wards is probably the biggest most helpful advise agurin gave to dontes
@trogador9555 Жыл бұрын
"what do you mean? i did a perfect clear." - Dantes after taking over 10 seconds slower than perfect hecarim clear while using an extra smite
@help1ng316 Жыл бұрын
What we need is a full 5 man of coaches and Dante's so he can learn team macro cause the scrims weren't IT. And I except Dante's to be HIM.
@benkhessibghaith4664 Жыл бұрын
so fun to watch this informative vids
@pendyalaabhishek8866 Жыл бұрын
the gangplank in the first game is actually solarbacca . he posted his video of this game on youtube .
@ShadowOfNos Жыл бұрын
the two older jungle god brothers teaching their younger sibling 😍
@frwch8133 Жыл бұрын
It was so funny listening to them argue over potential lvl 1 Riven invade cheese, only to see Riven getting clapped by GP level 1 xD
@tokentoken8208 Жыл бұрын
Min 1.00.00 i think both plays are good/would work. 1. Top play is the standart play and more „high elo“ gameplay 2. Darius is inting and you could „Adaptation“ like tarzaned says and play to cover Darius
@knigo7967 Жыл бұрын
Me agreeing with Agurin on everything he says, insulting Dantes out loud and the queuing back into my silver games like:
@snyyx7 ай бұрын
I love this video ahah Dantes had a rly good idea with the video there
@ambufn6504 Жыл бұрын
how the turns have tabled
@thcoori4984 Жыл бұрын
one of your best videos, keep it up Agurin
@Flor-xp9px Жыл бұрын
This is radioactive coaching
@danwa586 Жыл бұрын
Dantes needs a lot more than coaching... A mental institute would do it.
@bigfin2010 ай бұрын
dantes gettin torn in two
@RengKing1 Жыл бұрын
lmao love u agurin so calm and collective keep it up
@off-meta9962 Жыл бұрын
I find it really cool you guys did that. Big from you augurin to show up on that call for somone that publicly kept insulting you. But i also was surprised that Dantes was quite humble. Also Tarzaned ... how can he not pass 1 minute of coaching without saying fuck xD
@zane3473 Жыл бұрын
I feel Dantes has always been humble... just a lil... out there in regards to his tangents, exaggerated for the sake of content, i feel.
@vedantgupta2145 Жыл бұрын
dantes never insulted agurin bruh. He has always said agurin is better than him.
@andreihlen7597 Жыл бұрын
There was quite a bit of banter sure, there were never any ill will or actual insults
@drowsyaf Жыл бұрын
it's all for show, lil bit of drama draws viewers to both streamers
@lennheintz47544 ай бұрын
That didn’t age well
@aldohorn1704 Жыл бұрын
5:29 that "what the fuck" after seeing neeko support is unbelievable funny to me.
@MrMrbobo46 Жыл бұрын
I Love how Dantes gets bullied by 2 Coaches now
@bigfin2010 ай бұрын
dantes pink ward thing is hilarious
@DeadlySins-op1gl Жыл бұрын
Hard agree, i absolutely do not understand how Briar's winrate is so low. Also, since W CD starts on first cast, with Shojin, if you W right at the end of your W, you can WW again almost instantly if that makes sense, getting two execute/healing autos in quick succession.
@Mawble Жыл бұрын
Her W is tricky to play with as you can overcommit, and a lot of lower elo players arent used to playing at low hp for pwoer spikes. That being said i have no idea why higher elo also has low WR lol
@zzzADYzzz Жыл бұрын
This is so amazing to watch ❤
@Sethyfisher9 ай бұрын
“It could be chill” 😂😂😂
@xXBLACKHELLXx Жыл бұрын
Two of the best Jungle kings in the world much love and respect ❤❤😊 and Dante’s is still on the way up
@fredthewreckyt10 ай бұрын
i love watching two dads coach their son 👍
@QuotenopferPseudonym Жыл бұрын
we need the real legend coach JAYMO
@glenndiddy Жыл бұрын
having 6 cleavers gave you over 100% armour pen. Back then because of spaghetti code you did over 100% damage because armour would go into the negatives giving a damage BONUS instead of damage reduction. That was wild man
@toktar00 Жыл бұрын
I think Tarzaned could find players in EU to play with as alot of people in EU are chill and do not all pride themselves on their accomplishments ingame.
@ouijarealm Жыл бұрын
Solarbacca casually shitting on Riven
@AngelEUW Жыл бұрын
As the best jungler in eu I agree with a few points but u still got a lot to learn.
@moulderzmoulder Жыл бұрын
agurin is on another level
@kalehond_euw Жыл бұрын
That last play you discussed is what makes euw better at macro in challenger they don't just follow plays, but they think about the optimal play and execute on it. Or at least it's a total soloqueue mindset to hover darius and wait around
@mypotatoesarenice Жыл бұрын
So wholesome!
@bardo2000 Жыл бұрын
Need more, that was so fun ^^
@MaximilianGrassl-kq4nv Жыл бұрын
Unironically this is kinda cool.
@jameshalle558 Жыл бұрын
Man really was saving Ghost for the next game, eh?
@phatle1828 Жыл бұрын
Omg i waiting for this so long
@volnero273310 ай бұрын
AGURIN TOLD ME TO SHOVE 😂😂
@chad0926 Жыл бұрын
its like having 2 dads
@GrayzBDF3 ай бұрын
This FORMAT is AAMAZING! Wow!
@jaredcollier654 Жыл бұрын
solarbacca in the top lane lol
@ikarosms Жыл бұрын
this was the funniest shit ever, and kind of informative too.
@AugusXD Жыл бұрын
I was planning to not see Briar gameplay till I buy her, but it is this trio in voice chat so I lost.
@MrGetownedLPАй бұрын
Reactive jungler and proactive jungler coach Dantes
@metakknight6186 Жыл бұрын
Is VOD review also uploaded to yt?
@Mitras333 Жыл бұрын
I'm trying to reach nirvana threw Meditation, but how can I focus when KZbin offers so much nice content fml
@KZHLeeSin Жыл бұрын
wow nice to see you
@gabripalma8662 Жыл бұрын
Love this content
@nandoborchardt4327 Жыл бұрын
Thats adrian riven!
@DuppyBoii187 Жыл бұрын
Casual Adrian vs Bacca top lane in the background.
@Nyu_Lightning Жыл бұрын
how can I see the timers of the jungle camps like in the video? :O
@lumenblade1975 Жыл бұрын
cool concept
@kaschi2046 Жыл бұрын
good one
@pedroluiz6391 Жыл бұрын
4:50 actually Diana can do 3 camps and reset to a dark seal, finish de blue side in less than 3:30 and contest her own chickens at lv 4
@freunddeswaldes575 Жыл бұрын
Its not about being at your own chickens fast enough. Almost every champ can be at chickens at 4:00 mins after resetting and buying one item. Its about the enemy jgl, who resetted after 6 camps, bought 2 small item components, then walks to your raptors, and beats you with stats because they have 700 gold spent and you only spent 350. I saw this at Agurins stream multiple times: he full clears (no crab), spents 700g, walks to enemy raptors and takes them, while his own camps are waiting to respawn. You give the enemy Jungler an opportunity to spent more efficient time on the map and put yourself in a scenario where you cannot contest own raptors 1 v 1. Basically this strat means both junglers will have desynced recalls and different timers where they can punish each other. With the downside that enemy jgl will have first timer to punish. If they dont and you can reverse full clear, youll be on dragon with 1k spent, while enemy must choose between farming respawning camps or contesting you at dragon with less gold. Its a back and forth, where both sides have arguments why each strat is better. For me Agurins strat seems more controllable and stable, and you are not reliant on the enemy to not invade you at respawning raptors. I tried both strats multiple times in EUW Diamond, and so far I can tell that I like Agurins strat more. Oftentimes I was ganking bot after reset before farming my blue camps. Even when I got a kill it was not worth because: my red side camps respawn faster than I can clear my blue side, and my enemy can take them now, while his camps were on cd for respawn. I was suddenly a lvl down, although I made a good gank. When you gank after full clear, or even after resetted full clear, there is nothing enemy jgl can take away from you in return, so its a very good play. imo this rap-red-crugs route is only good when you want MUST impact the sidelanes b4 enemy jgl. Youll be there surprisingly early, and you dont show your starting location.
@douglaswalston3137 Жыл бұрын
Mom gank’d Dante’s, MomDiff Pog
@lordlampard7510 Жыл бұрын
Why is Neeko icon weird looking?
@mephistopheles858 Жыл бұрын
wait, Moe is back!!!
@GordonOverkill Жыл бұрын
Fun but too nice. Perfect summary! 😅
@despicableglowee520711 ай бұрын
the german Tarzaned XDXDXD
@MrNeuroMind Жыл бұрын
cool content and very informative
@hustleherny11 Жыл бұрын
Idk, Tarzaned has such an uneducational tone, if he would be my teacher I couldn’t listen to him for a single minute. He just sounds so impolite compared to agurin.
@ambufn6504 Жыл бұрын
this is so good to watch:D
@TheBigBangHannes Жыл бұрын
Astronomy for Leage players
@TheFoxStalksHisPrey9 ай бұрын
Dantes getting flamed by team while 2 of the best junglers in the world tell him what he should do is peak league of legends for me.
@Azari_D Жыл бұрын
Can’t avoid hearing that guys voice on KZbin league lately it feels like :
@TheMrThe123 Жыл бұрын
What is the program he uses at the beginning to see what type of dmg each champion does?
@paulhaze4759 Жыл бұрын
What Programm used Dante’s with the overlay on early screen ?
@Megaloblocks Жыл бұрын
That it was to nice made u all likeable and the Video kinda wholesome so don't worry ❤😊
@HarriBarriTarri Жыл бұрын
TARZANED AND I
@lollekompolle Жыл бұрын
You know the difference between a good player and an excellent player, when the one just defaults to a profane remark such as "this is broken" and "value x is like nothing" whilst the other player gives their exact reasoning behind their opinion. In addition I had to laugh at Dantes comment about pink wards. I mean at least he knows that he's only being lazy. But a competitive player in their right mind should be like: "I feel like not doing it because I'm super lazy, but since I'm aware of the edge it gives me in the competition, it would just be not smart to not make use of it."
@Megaloblocks Жыл бұрын
That was very funny i like i like
@SnowFire32 Жыл бұрын
Eins deiner besten Videos. Bitte mehr davon :D
@adsdfadfs8 ай бұрын
Agurin’s thought process is so clear and leaves no room for hypotheticals, it’s so refreshing. So many NA creators spout bullshit like it’s gospel.
@miroslavstoyanov4462 Жыл бұрын
"agurin is 500iq" LMAO
@samurai4483 Жыл бұрын
Dantes 'Best jungler eu' I'd rather say best solo queue player and jungler in the world (and not even kidding)