I have just started watching both your channels and enjoy both of you. My dad passed away this about this time last year. So you are helping me cope with a hole in my heart. I have seen everyone of the brewing city steading and I am working on the food and gardening. Thank you for making these videos. Keep on producing them. I learn a lot of useful information. Thanks again.
@richardstevens34615 жыл бұрын
You should show everyone the large number of things under the desk of fermentation.
@hisokamorow67095 жыл бұрын
I sure that place is a different dimension, the amount of stuff they put in there, either that or a black hole.
@PacesIII4 жыл бұрын
@@hisokamorow6709 They play D&D. It's probably a bag of holding.
@PacesIII4 жыл бұрын
Maybe a behind the scenes. Call it "Beyond the brew."
@bobthirdwalling19015 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see how this turns out! I started a similar experiment with Blueberry wine and mead about 2 weeks ago but fermentation is still very, very active in both gallons.
@charliemac19635 жыл бұрын
Thank you for responding. Love your videos and the info! Sincerely, retired wedding/bar mitzvah videographer. Charlie 🤪
@yodhanhunter4 жыл бұрын
As I have learned most of what I know about brewing from you guys, I too have put the test liquid back into fermenter after testing gravity. After about 10 different brews, I have not had any discernible issue with this. keep up the good work. I love your videos.
@theycallmebacon56925 жыл бұрын
You know I don't drink, I don't like wine, beer, or any of that good stuff. I don't even drink soda or tea. But I subscribed anyway, I like the videos, and the science. The two of you do a great job making your content.
@Dave_en5 жыл бұрын
Now I'm a fan of mead. Got plenty of honey on promotional offer from Groffers in very low price. We get grapes only in winter season, so making wine in all season is out of scope. Still we can make mead with seasonal fruits round the year. Plus the mead keeps well and goes down the throat easily.
@Hin_Håle5 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the dark side!
@paulallerston37715 жыл бұрын
I hope you labelled the carboys "Fermenter A" and "Fermenter 2"... for science ;)
@CitySteadingBrews5 жыл бұрын
Lol, I noted that in the editing.
@djdaddy80805 жыл бұрын
I love the lalvin D47, it usually has a 14% attenuation, but my Cyser I made a few months back fermented out to about 19%. Luckily it had a bunch of sweetness so it caught back the jet fuel. D47 always comes out crisp and clean and for any non-beer that’s the one I love to use!
@djdaddy80805 жыл бұрын
I had commented before you hydrated the yeast and it’s funny that our numbers matched up
@TheStraycat745 жыл бұрын
I've tried a bunch of different yeasts and D-47 comes out best To My Pallet. so I use that until I find "a better yeast" but I'm running out of types I haven't tried... or can afford
@djdaddy80805 жыл бұрын
TheStraycat74 I totally agree! My go to’s are SO4 for beers/low abvs, and D47 for meads/wines. Though I am conducting an experiment for a pumpkin pie mead soon and I’ll use bakers yeast for that. If I get “bread-y” off flavors from stressing the yeast a bit that’ll be just fine and add to the pumpkin pie flavor!
@aspektx5 жыл бұрын
I love that you have high end scotch and Argo cornstarch on the same shelving. It tells me things are actually getting used and lived in.
@1nv1c7u5m4n305 жыл бұрын
Fine work. This should be fun. I just racked off and bottled a Half Bouchet and Half straight mead mixture, total 6lbs of Clover Honey, in a 2-gallon batch. 14.1ABV and came out like a White wine mixed with a champaign dang delicious!
@andrewstanderline78995 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to the outcome of this! I hate the wait though, the only downfall of making your own brew... THE WAIT!
@redstone19995 жыл бұрын
That is only if you are new at this or out of stock. Once you brew on a regular base or build up a good supply, the wait is only a minor irritant. :)
@roentgen5715 жыл бұрын
Derica's snickering is just adorable. lol
@Kinnamon1005 жыл бұрын
I'm always rooting for the mead, but I love a good Elderberry wine.
@Kashi7545 жыл бұрын
One of my car boys came with a metal twist cap. I just use that when mixing/oxygenating because I've had my thumb slip as I was shaking it and it obviously made a mess.
@Shrinkme19635 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the tasting!!
@frattysatty86375 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love you guys and all of the content you make.
@eddavanleemputten92323 жыл бұрын
I need to show this to a friend of mine... in the hopes of getting him hooked on brewing!
@claytondoty95125 жыл бұрын
This will be a fun one to watch develop.
@redstone19995 жыл бұрын
So looking forward to the testing.
@treich1234 Жыл бұрын
Checked the ingredients label on this brand of Elderberry Concentrate, it reads as follows: Fermentable Corn Syrup, Apple, Pear, Elderberry & Grape Juice Concentrates, Water, Citric Acid, Natural Flavors
@mythic_snake5 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the taste test!
@baijokull5 жыл бұрын
I think investing in a cap without a hole is a good idea just for that oxygenation. Just makes things easier :D
@bossalou5 жыл бұрын
But it's more fun to cover the hole and shake. It's like a challenge. Can I do this without getting it on the kitchen floor?
@brianrenko98484 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the racking and tasting vid....
@Seph12o65 жыл бұрын
Always love your informative videos
@Wolvyrine5 жыл бұрын
Well personally, I'm all shades of excited to see how this turns out!
@NobodyWhatsoever5 жыл бұрын
I just realized: Those cheap-o gallon jugs of wine use the same style bottle, and can be less expensive than buying the bottle online. It makes them so tempting to suffer through for home fermentation.
@CitySteadingBrews5 жыл бұрын
We use plenty of those!
@M4st3r0fN0n33 жыл бұрын
You could always use a definite measure of water and add the whole yeast packet to it, stir in thoroughly and then split that solution for future tests like this
@TheStraycat745 жыл бұрын
@Dericka your husband smells of elderberries... Speaking of Elderberries, I'm going to remake my Elberberry Mead again because I thought 1oz of dried elderberries in ONE gallon was a little strong, so next will be a 5-gallon batch and hope it isn't as over powering (but I have to move the Chocolate Mead I have going in my 5gal bucket first...)
@nathanielsizemore85945 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to seeing the results of this trial. I agree that the half gallon test was to small for an accurate comparison.
@brandonmaloney97585 жыл бұрын
l started a 4gallon last saturday, straight off your original basic mead vid, l left out the oranges but used the tea. can't wait to see how it comes out
@CitySteadingBrews5 жыл бұрын
I would have put the orange in, or at least lemon or lime. It's there to feed the yeast, not really as a flavorant.
@brandonmaloney97585 жыл бұрын
@@CitySteadingBrews l got the chopped raisins in, organic sun dried. it kicked up nice bubling within a few hours
@lukejosselyn77065 жыл бұрын
The TRBOS bit always makes me laugh 😁 Love what you guys do 😊
@dananelson84474 жыл бұрын
Wondered why I hadn't heard from you. Pressed the button just in case. It will be interesting to see how it tastes. I always need more disodiumphosphate. Thanks for sharing guys.
@CitySteadingBrews4 жыл бұрын
I never add the stuff. Why do you need it?
@AndrewDeLong4 жыл бұрын
Got it. So when I attempted to make dandelion wine a few months back, I made dandelion mead by mistake. Well, at least I used good raw honey? 🤷♂️
@MandalorV75 жыл бұрын
I'm about a week into my first batch. Really looking forward to tasting it in a few more weeks. I have gotten some weird looks when I have mentioned to my coworkers that I'm making mead. For it one of the oldest drinks it's not as well know as beer or wine for some reason.
@user-cv3gd2wr5q5 жыл бұрын
Jacob Clark I’ve been working in my career for 20 years and home brewing for over 10 years. No longer do people at work give me the weird look. Now they give me the inquisitive look followed with the I’d love to taste that comment.
@saxonsoldier675 жыл бұрын
Brian, people that throw away the sample in the graduated cylinder do so for one important reason. They can't pour it back into the fermenting vessel as well as you.
@CitySteadingBrews5 жыл бұрын
Lol!
@karnoq5 жыл бұрын
I think you've developed a new piece of gym exercise equipment: Carboy bejebus shaker station!
@ragadorusenderborn5 жыл бұрын
I had the strongest sense of deja vu until you said you were redoing the experiment.
@michaelseaman58324 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@raylebonville74995 жыл бұрын
How much sugar was added for the wine?
@im-colton5 жыл бұрын
What’s funny is you poured the yeast out on a scale you could have weighed out the yeast and made sure you had the same yeast in both lol
@BrewmasterTim5 жыл бұрын
Great job!
@madderoftime5 жыл бұрын
Started a batch yesterday using close to the same recipe as you have here. 84 oz Vintner's Elderberry, 12 lbs honey, water to 6.5 gal, packet and a half EC-1118 yeast, OG 1.115. So far seems slow to start. Did yours take right off? Edit - took a day to get started but now is very active. The room smells like yeast and elderberries. ~wow
@maheshlund39515 жыл бұрын
What if we mix sugar with honey and use it for wine making, what would this be called?
@jimschuler88305 жыл бұрын
This has been bugging me. There are lots of alcoholic brews that have very specific terminology. Just relating to mead alone; cyser, braggot, metheglen, etc. However, when we get to sugar, we don't even have a proper name for that. We call it "wine," even though "wine" has the same etymology as "vine" because it's made from grapes with no sugar added. Two drinks with two different sources of fermentables are called the same thing. This cannot stand! Wine comes from the Latin for vine. The various "mels" comes from the Latin for honey. Therefore, you must be making elderberry saccharon. Fixed.
@CitySteadingBrews5 жыл бұрын
Let’s make it more complicated: mead is just a type of wine.
@docroberts42895 жыл бұрын
Just started a 1 gal batch of mead using your freshman beard yeast. Starting SPG is 1.075. Fingers crossed..
@anneirenej5 жыл бұрын
This will be very interesting
@The_Cyber_Nomad3 жыл бұрын
Sweet Red Wine
@reapertrader90825 жыл бұрын
Hi Guys Please can you do a video on the relation of oxygen and CO2 - when does what come into play , when do you want more than the other , which is more important for alcohol forming , which is more important for taste etc .... Also another question ... does the quantity of yeast you add really matter - since yeast "grows" and get more .... and when does yeast die / stop fermenting and why?
@socialxperiment31623 жыл бұрын
In the must stage, you want to introduce as much oxygen as possible. But once fermentation starts, CO2 (being the byproduct of fermentation) begins to rise up through the must into the headspace and out of the airlock, making the oxygen levels drop. When the fermentation process is complete, that is when you want to be as careful as possible as not to introduce a lot oxygen in your brew. Doing so can create off-flavors. The amount of yeast you pitch isn’t necessarily a vital factor in fermentation, only if you put too little yeast. The lifespan of yeast depends on a couple factors, the most prominent one being when the yeast reach their tolerance of the alcohol level they created. Another big one is preservatives in the ingredients of what you use in your must, so it’s best to avoid preservatives. Yeast can also stop fermenting if there’s too much sugars and they will be overwhelmed. A great way to encourage a healthy and active fermentation is to give the yeast nutrients. A few companies actually make a yeast nutrient that you can pitch with the yeast itself. I hope most of that makes sense and answered your questions!
@greentoxicsoniccrew14355 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about making mead but substituting some honey with agave syrup.
@CitySteadingBrews5 жыл бұрын
You can do that. Agave nectar tends to be very mild on it's own, with an earthiness to it.
@ytndndrummer5 жыл бұрын
2 questions: How do you feel about using an aerator to mix instead of shaking the container and what about using caster or finely ground sugar?
@TheStraycat745 жыл бұрын
sugar is sugar, it'll get ate by the wee little yeaties. finely ground (powdered) MIGHT dissolve easier, but I'd measure it by weight instead of volume.
@CitySteadingBrews5 жыл бұрын
Why not just shake it up?
@ytndndrummer5 жыл бұрын
@@CitySteadingBrews It was a 5 gallon glass carboy and I have a bad back.
@cranberry64605 жыл бұрын
@@ytndndrummer You don't need a fancy aerator. Get a long metal rod with a thing on the end, and use a drill. It makes mixing and splashing much easier.
@fusion9619 Жыл бұрын
@@ytndndrummer how did you end up shaking it? (yes I know, 3 yrs ago...)
@Gnif575 жыл бұрын
I tried DP and ended up removing 2 cups from a 1gl fermenter to keep it foaming up into the airlocks. I kept the 2 cups in a jar and slowly added it back to the fermenter
@user-cv3gd2wr5q5 жыл бұрын
Fing_57 get a blowoff tube. Should cost about $1 or there abouts.
@Gnif575 жыл бұрын
thanks, will give that a try
@Wesleyholla3 жыл бұрын
So could any of your mead recipes be switched to a wine if you used the proper amount of sugar instead of honey? Or would that just mess the whole recipe up?
@CitySteadingBrews3 жыл бұрын
Yup of course! However they will taste different as a result :)
@Wesleyholla3 жыл бұрын
@@CitySteadingBrews awesome, thank you! I’m just now dipping my toes into this hobby and your channel is the only one that makes it easy and accessible (no chemicals I need to keep track of and spend more money on). Keep doing what your doing b/c it helps a ton!!
@CrenJay5 жыл бұрын
Hi! Love your brewing videos, I was inspired by one of your cyser videos to try making one, since I’d never brewed one before... It’s been in the secondary fermentation for about 3 weeks now, and shows no sign of clearing. Having used cloudy apple juice to make the cyser in the first place, do you guys think it’ll clear eventually? Thanks!
@CitySteadingBrews5 жыл бұрын
It should. 3 weeks is nothing give it time.
@user-cv3gd2wr5q5 жыл бұрын
CrenJay I’ve used cloudy juice before to make a cider and while it tasted great, it never cleared for me. I’m not saying it won’t clear, I’m saying mine never did. But that was also only the one time I’ve used cloudy juice.
@CrenJay5 жыл бұрын
@@CitySteadingBrews thanks!! I'll leave it a few more months and let you guys know. Your BBQ chicken with spaghetti was great by the way!
@CrenJay5 жыл бұрын
@@user-cv3gd2wr5q thanks, I'll leave it a bit longer before bottling and see what happens!
@Haustyle6665 жыл бұрын
Lol I was talking along with Derica “learn to grow and brew and take control of your food!” And it didn’t happen. I forgot about the change 🤦♂️
@waelsaleem42225 жыл бұрын
I love you guys and I loved your content for this channel, speachly I'm watching you from country which beer not legel here , and by the way i drink befor one hour ginger beer but my hair still standing for terrible taste i believe i did something wrong.
@charliemac19635 жыл бұрын
I may have missed it, but I’m assuming the water is either distilled or filtered etc.....?
@CitySteadingBrews5 жыл бұрын
Our house water is filtered. I don’t prefer distilled water for brewing as it’s had all the minerals removed.
@captbbe5 жыл бұрын
Hands down meads better
@raymondjennings68175 жыл бұрын
Hi I have a question can you use golden syrup or dark treacle? If so can you do a video about them?
@CitySteadingBrews5 жыл бұрын
You can use them, but it's a wine, as it can't be mead. They're just sugar, and molasses which is a by product of sugar making.
@MrScotchpie4 жыл бұрын
For the weight dilema at 5:10, just convert to metric and weigh it.
@bucmeister77134 жыл бұрын
Is there a specific follow up video for this comparison? Would think it should automatically follow as chapter 2, chapter 3 etc.
@CitySteadingBrews4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJOwZXaugcShr6M We also did a video on how to search KZbin channels, might be helpful: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJ3EdZ9mbrSYiLc
@bucmeister77134 жыл бұрын
@@CitySteadingBrews Thanks for getting back so quickly. Haven't watched the link yet but believe I may have found it after posting that comment. Guess I have gotten spoiled to the way some of your project batches are linked together so the next chapter pops up as the next option. Had looked for the Wine vs Mead title on the All Videos page but for some reason did not find it so did a search and found the later taste test on this second attempt with the full gallon musts. Have a pair of 1 gallon basic meads going that will be 2 weeks old this Sat. Everything the same (tea, raisins, orange zest and honey) one is bread yeast other is EC1118, wanted to see the taste differences, both started at 1.120 so now thinking they may be a bit dry, time will tell. Also started a concord grape wine last Thursday with bread yeast. Now need more 1 gallon jars to get more going. Really do enjoy y'all's channel. Appreciate the straight forward approach and instructive presentation. Is there such a thing as a wine/mead hybrid brew and if so have you ever done one? Thinking along the line of 2 lbs honey then bringing sp gr up to target OG with sugar. And is there a name for such a concoction. Guessing that would weaken the honey notes enough to be a "why would you want to do that" moment.
@LevidelValle5 жыл бұрын
Love it.
@griplove5 жыл бұрын
I can’t seem to enjoy wine, all the store bought mead I’ve found taste like wine. At a fair once I had a glass of mead that I’m pretty sure I enjoyed (wasn’t the days first drink) If I make my own mead will it change my mind about mead? Which is currently “taste like sweet wine” and again I don’t like wine. Love you guys. been away from YT for a while, but definitely missed your channel!!
@CitySteadingBrews5 жыл бұрын
Mead is a type of wine...
@griplove5 жыл бұрын
City Steading Brews I know. You guys make brewing (fermenting?) look so fun. I was hoping mead was different enough that if I made my own I might enjoy it. It’s a pretty involved process I think if I was left with a gallon of undrinkable fermented honey that I’d be sad. I guess I just want mead to be more like beer and perhaps my problem is I need to accept I just don’t like it. 😔
@CitySteadingBrews5 жыл бұрын
It's possible, though mead has a wide range of flavors. Everything from straight simple mead to braggots which is mead/beer to fruit and spiced meads. I don't love all of them, but I do really like some.
@mrzif001310 ай бұрын
beginner here: 1.120 gravity < how can you adjust higher or low?
@CitySteadingBrews10 ай бұрын
More fermentables raises it, diluting lowers it. Probably don't want to go any higher, especially when just starting out.
@richardkitchens87075 жыл бұрын
You used 2 lbs of honey, how much sugar to get the same starting OG?
@CitySteadingBrews5 жыл бұрын
About 1.5 lbs.
@aaronritter58375 жыл бұрын
Hopefully works this time
@SillySalmon945 жыл бұрын
Love!!!
@jackadkins2894Ай бұрын
Is there a follow up video? I cant find it
@CitySteadingBrewsАй бұрын
If this was a tasting I don't believe so.
@the_whiskeyshaman5 жыл бұрын
So I just started my bourbon bochet. And it’s bubbling away I’ll let you know if it finishes🤣🤫
@21blacktooth5 жыл бұрын
TRBOS!
@cheekysaver5 жыл бұрын
Is it time yet? Is it time yet? Is it time yet? (you know... the mead makers are we there yet) Hahaha... I can wait. I have time. :D
@CitySteadingBrews5 жыл бұрын
Not quite, but soon!
@mmilby5 жыл бұрын
I used to big on sanitation but i did an experiment once. I brewed 5-5gal batches of wine and 5-5gal batches of beer and did not use any sanitizer whatsoever. Though i did wash everything with soap and water an hour or two before i brewed. This was over about a years worth of time. All batches came out spectacular. I still do sanitize but i'm not the sani nazi i once was. Is it important? Yes but is it THAT important......not really. I guess if you live in a dirty filthy basement or something it may be......LOL
@cranberry64605 жыл бұрын
I thought City Steading weren't doing any more videos...?
@CitySteadingBrews5 жыл бұрын
We split the channel to be one for brewing and another for cooking. Even did a video on the split.
@JasonP6339Ай бұрын
You used the same funnel in both without cleaning...... Not sure why you were worried about your thumb cross contaminating......
@CitySteadingBrewsАй бұрын
The funnel was cleaned. We probably edited it.
@terrycuyler56593 жыл бұрын
If you really felt like nerving out you could have filled to 14oz then added 2 tablespoon of fluid.
@somethingverylong5 жыл бұрын
So what went wrong with the first batch?
@CitySteadingBrews5 жыл бұрын
Cross contamination with another brew.
@rossrichert20225 жыл бұрын
How much sugar did you put in?
@CitySteadingBrews5 жыл бұрын
A pound and a half.
@ryost634 жыл бұрын
I cannot find a video on how this experiment worked out
@CitySteadingBrews4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJOwZXaugcShr6M
@ryost634 жыл бұрын
Thank u. I really enjoy watching ur videos. My dad taught me how to make wine 45 yrs ago
@danielleu.8774 жыл бұрын
can you use both?
@CitySteadingBrews4 жыл бұрын
Whaddya mean? Of course you can make wine and mead... oh, do you mean sugar and honey in the same brew? You can, there's no advantage really. Sugar just raises ABV, honey adds flavor and complexity. Mixing them means... less flavor than mead, and more flavor than wine.
@danielleu.8774 жыл бұрын
@@CitySteadingBrews interesting. Lol I just watched and was like but what if...... Haha.
@RuffEdgesBakery5 жыл бұрын
Nice :)
@steveskouson96205 жыл бұрын
I've got a much easier way to oxygenate. Grab the O2 tank, hook up the airstone, and let fly. Found 2 O2 tanks, for medical use. (Really, found 5, but 2 had O2 in them.) Regulators as well as that little tiny dolly, Already had the airstone. steve
@CitySteadingBrews5 жыл бұрын
Or... shake the jug. :P
@steveskouson96205 жыл бұрын
@@CitySteadingBrews, I usually do 5 gallon batches. That jug is quite dangerous to shake. steve
@CitySteadingBrews5 жыл бұрын
Oh just fill 1/3 and do it.
@lesturner5 жыл бұрын
hmmm plural of yeast???... yeast, yeasts or yeasti?
@kaih90145 жыл бұрын
More. More yeast. 🤪
@thierryvannuffelen12745 жыл бұрын
Go Mead ;-)
@mildredtoepfer78975 жыл бұрын
Hurray for the scientific method!
@yuridanylko5 жыл бұрын
You throw it away because bacteria could have fallen in from dust or aerosoles.
@CitySteadingBrews5 жыл бұрын
That's just as likely to get into the main brew too...
@yuridanylko5 жыл бұрын
@@CitySteadingBrews Not if you sterilely by a flame. Any aerosoles or dust will be carried up by the heat to somewhere else. If you don't work sterilely, it doesn't matter.
@zravensworth5 жыл бұрын
Looks like there was a little begeezes in there, lol
@ChiP2sumP5 жыл бұрын
Hope this is not a repeat of what I said as that comment seems to have disappeared into the black hole of comments. Anyhoo, I was saying that I am going to do this as I have the Elderberry concentrate, and yes--I do not like all the contents either. But, I think I can stand one jug's worth of questionable contents. Now I have forgotten what the heck I was going to ask you...sigh, getting to old to post even questions anymore. Will post again if I can get my old brain to work.