Dracula - Motivations for letting Hector & Isaac lead - Castlevania Season 2 E1

[@chakinabox]

God the contrast of where Isaac and Hector were then, and where they are now. THAT'S how you create dynamic characters!

[@thalmoragent9344]

Yep, deep storytelling, although Hector may have been sorta duped at the end, but for the most part, it was pretty sound

[@jamesspencer1997]

Dracula held them in higher value than any other creatures walking the earth..It was not about being a vampire for him..he knew these 2 were better than all the others. Their gifts were so singular that they were outcasts in the whole world more so than vampires..

[@SolSeal]

Yeah... it was a pretty good show. All the characters evolved and changed admirably.

[@primecoconut4204]

In the later seasons after this, they were at each other but at the end they grew to be better, showing us that Drac really trusted them. He really chose them well.

[@jamesspencer1997]

@@primecoconut4204 He wanted better for them he recognized thier gifts.

[@Zninety]

"...and betray" while the camera is on Hector. Good foreshadowing.

[@Heraldo_Del_Mar]

But not of his own accord.

[@dungeonguy88]

It also bears mentioning that Dracula and Isaac were misleading and 'betraying' Hector as well, deceiving him about the goals of the war.

[@stomp21]

It's just a coincidence lol. Don't get too horny.

[@snakestaffmagic4499]

I think its more to do with the fact that hector was betrayed by his family, but you make a good point still ^^

[@matthewmuir8884]

@@Heraldo_Del_Mar In hindsight, I honestly think it would've been better if it was of his own accord; like if he figured out that they were lying to him, he couldn't reconcile his morals with continuing to help Dracula, and so, in a pivotal moment, he chose to help the heroes gain access to the castle, but then he couldn't bring himself to fight Dracula because Dracula was still his friend, so he tried to just walk away. That, I think, might've been more compelling, especially now in hindsight.

[@vanitassenpai1676]

Hector was a misunderstood child and Isaac was used to being a tool without the thought of being the hand using the tool Some of the best character development I've ever seen

[@bappojujubes981]

Isaac thought about being the hand instead of the knife. I really like that idea

[@igorz4582]

it's amazing how people take the most basic things about the show and make them look like it takes a genius to do it, the show had absolute cringe dialogue throughout and a very basic plot so give me a break

[@ramiel3759]

@@igorz4582 thank you!

[@Absolutely_Nobody]

@@igorz4582 Okay. You dislike the show. Please, ruin it for everyone else as well.

[@igorz4582]

@@Absolutely_Nobody i still finished it and enjoyed the occasional good fight scenes but seeing people call it a masterpiece or praise the story is just pathetic

[@tacocat318]

What i truly love about this is dracula is never shown as stupid. Suicidal, broken, noncaring, but never stupid. He is the most intelligent person in the world and the writers never betray that. Every scene every moment he burns with that intelligence that no other character in the series can rival. This series has its dumb scenes but the writing and the characters never betray themselves.

[@KenshiImmortalWolf]

This is also why his death is so heart breaking. He Isn't stupid, but he is blinded, blinded by rage, by pain. When he finally sees what is happening, what HE is doing, "i must already be dead."

[@antalonampreel861]

Funny you mention that because I note how Carmilla was dismissive of him and basically any other male figure in that castle, she called them all man-children or mad old men. But ofc she has her own past trauma leading to her perspective, and she seems narcissistic. She reminds me of Cersei Lannister.

[@AmusedCoffee-ym3gb]

Oh, he was suicidal. The entire war screamed suicide

[@gabrielcastillo3094]

What I love about this scene is how utterly fed up Dracula is with the World in general, not only with humanity. When he says that most vampires no longer see humans as thinking beings, he states that his race has dropped down to the same mediocrity of humans. Their choice to ignore human rationality and narrow vision has led them to care for one thing only: to eat their fill and then feed again once the hunger returns, and thus behaving like animals as much (if not more) as the "cattle" they feel so entitled to terrorize and dominate.

[@aggroknight4259]

The struggle for survival tends to have that effect in the long run. Vampires in the Castlevania anime live in literal and metaphorical darkness. They're immortal, and yet they struggle to sustain themselves as beings starkly isolated from the world they exist in. Because of that, time curses them to become cold, soulless monsters that, even amongst their own, care mostly superficially for each other. They don't know comfort, so they act almost like feral animals. It's pitiful.

[@seandeans1279]

2:21 for a being like vlad to allow a human to place a comforting hand on his shoulder and console him just shows how much he valued Issac.

[@Mysterio013]

Glad someone pointed this out. Dracula is usually very guarded and nobody EVER lays a hand on him. He and Isaac were truly friends.

[@concept5631]

Vlad and Issac were true bros.

[@urickmann7768]

the fact it was issac just goes to show how he was the only one who knew the true purpose of this war

[@levikay1745]

It's probably the best relationship in the show. It really makes you question Dracula's resolve in the matter, and makes Alucard's assertion later that the war is just the world's longest suicide a concrete fact that Dracula wasn't willing to accept.

[@thegreatboi8357]

Main point of Dracula Because you two “understand they are thinking beings, who can fight back and plan ahead just like you”

[@zacharygroysman279]

Its' moments like these that I love the most. I mean I love the fast paced incredibly animated fight scenes. But scenes where the charters of this world just sit and talk and you really get to see what's in their head and what they believe is why I love this show.

[@jules7125]

This right here. People dont pay attention to enough to dialogue but this show has some incredible exchange of deep topics

[@mjkhan9664]

That's Warren Ellis writing right there

[@unchartedrocks1]

Much more subtly than a Shonen Jump anime

[@dungeonguy88]

I think it is important, vital even for stories to have these quiet moments, between the action and the chaos where the characters can just be who they are. They can show their depths, their contrasts, and provide subtle cues to what they're thinking. I think Hayao Miyazaki might have codified that idea himself, the quiet moments between what's happening that help show you the characters and help you care about them.

[@dungeonguy88]

@shut up To be fair, among the Vampires, only Godbrand, Carmilla, and Dracula himself had actual speaking roles. Over half the vampire 'characters' didn't say anything at all, apart from the odd battle grunt. And by comparison, Trevor, Sypha, and Belmont had a relatively straightforward narrative to follow. Find a way into Dracula's castle and the kill Dracula. They had pretty clear steps to follow for it too, finding their way to the old Belmont estate, fighting some, and summoning the castle. There wasn't that much idle time for them to simply sit and talk, unlike with the Vampires.

[@tashadent150]

Seriously, the writers of this animated series should be nominated for Emmys or win them! This is perhaps some of the best script writing in years!

[@TheBayzent]

After the allegations of sexual misconduct I really doubt Ellis is getting any sort of prize to be honest...

[@KASHKUR_7.62]

Besides Even With the Woke Washing from netflix will never be Woke enough for Leftard PsychoPed0s from Hollywood

[@edsonsengo2684]

@@TheBayzent Yeah but so far it's allegations. Unless there is something proven

[@tashadent150]

@@TheBayzent You are right about that but I was just impressed at the depth of writing on the show. I am have to confess that I have never played or heard of Castlevania before but I am a huge fan of animated movies and I have seen some that were good but this was just great because they raise some really good points and they don't sugarcoat anything. Despite of whatever Mr. Ellis has been 'accused' of you have to give him props for being a part of this epic series

[@ramiel3759]

"best script writing" Its the first script writing you saw for being the best?

[@UmisTsukishiro00]

They got there by embracing the worst of humanity: Hector is so cowardly in the face of not belonging that he turned to vampirekind to find friends, and Isaac is so hateful he doesn't care if it costs him his life to spread his pain across the world.

[@Crichjo32]

But by the end of season 4 they've both changed to embrace the best of humanity. I think Hector and Isaac's character arc represents the conflict within the human soul.

[@UmisTsukishiro00]

@@Crichjo32 I guess. Obviously Isaac did amazing growth and conquered his demons, but the way Hector's story resolved feels hollow to me. I was looking forward to him getting some real friends by joining Team Belmont and the others. The entire "Curse of Darkness" B plot feels like it fizzled out before it even started.

[@ghost245353]

@@UmisTsukishiro00 I felt Hector had Stockholm syndrome by wanting to live with Lenore.

[@UmisTsukishiro00]

@@ghost245353 That is the only realistic explanation. It’s disgusting that the writers tried to set up a love story and sweep the rapist and captive relationship under the rug.

[@danielramsey6141]

@@UmisTsukishiro00 Its abit deeper, nor is it Stockholm! Hell, what Hector did was only slightly Stockholm related and not the Full-on Sickness. Lenore and him did have a fling, but she Betrayed his trust, and He hated Carmilia for what she did to him out of Spite and Control! He was in a fucked up situation. But once he had his mind set, he managed to fuck over Carmilia while Isaac dealt the Killing Blow, much to his Surprise. In a Way, his time with Lenore was there to help him understand the cruelty of the world, the reasons why Vampires Are the Way they Are, and why he finds Lenore so fascinating. To me it was never about Stockholm....it was bout facing the reality that everything we know in the world doesn't last, and cannot last forever.

[@SuperUniverse]

You can see Dracula doesn't hate humans completely. He had a wife who is a human and had a child with her.

[@MrOrcshaman]

He doesn't hate individuals, its the flaws within humanity he grew to hate, their ignorance. He likely saw his wife, Issac and Hector as those who had risen above humanities flaws, as examples of the only good within a flawed species.

[@ramiel3759]

he needlessly killed a lot of innocent people instead of those guilty of Lisa's death but that's okay guys he had family oh my god what a profound story,the genocide being forgiven this is so poetic

[@MrOrcshaman]

@@ramiel3759 hey, its dracula, he's not Steven universe villain, the story pretty paints a tragedy how he was a monster distant from humanity, a mortal woman fell in love with him giving him a chance at finding his humanity again, but her murder shattered any chance at that, so its a tragic story, made more so by their son having the humanity she hoped her husband would have.

[@ramiel3759]

@@MrOrcshaman he is worse than a SU villain,he is a Sword Art Online villain

[@runetide]

@@ramiel3759 You're seriously hating on a villain for *being a villain* ? That's Twitter logic.

[@dylanjacobs661]

Hey say’s “ only the death matters now” like he already knew his death was coming. all this was a sad and horrific death rattle from man who lost the only stability in his life.

[@LadyLeomon]

During one scene with Alucard he called Dracula’s way “history’s longest -suicide- note” and I think he’s right, man wanted to die but he wanted to make everyone else miserable before he did. I don’t really blame him for going off the deep end, it’s just sad.

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

@@LadyLeomon Christian "suicide is sin blah-blah" nonsense. Generally speaking, seppuku isn't a part of western culture, so all suicidal people need to go around asking people to kill them until it's meme-worthy, like the Final Resting (where you do the rare thing of providing "last rites" to a fully living, breathing homo sapiens sapiens rather than some cliché paladin garbage of murdering undead) quest in Oblivion or that "Speedrun through Life" video that can be found here.

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

Though if that's the case, Uncle Vlad doesn't really need boots on the ground soldiers. Geomancers conjuring earthquakes or the use of nuclear weapons would be a much better tool, and yes, Yasunori Kato succeeded in both in Teito Monogatari.

[@LadyLeomon]

PettankoEnthusiast ... Okay???

[@dylanjacobs661]

@@DarkAdonisVyers that would destroy everything though and leave what’s left uninhabitable. Which he doesn’t want. He trust these two get it done in a humane way . ( if you can even call it that ....) he’s just exhausted from his rage and grief . Thinking and relishing the details are a background noise to sobbing and screaming in his heart . Not even his child could bring him out of .

[@PhilospherDjPsychologist24]

Isaac was easily the best character on this show, and his arc is the most compelling

[@Undomaranel]

Eh, Alucard's backstory and unique situation is a contender for me, all of that potential between worlds and perspectives, but his arc is fairly color-by-number all things considered. I agree Isaac's arc is the most compelling though; I love what they did with his character. Gotta love it when they write for a mature audience who can handle nuance without virtue signaling or modern politics mucking up a timeless reflection.

[@lyanaara970]

Dont think so. I have the feeling Isaac and Hector deserved more episodes, their ending felt rushed. At least they should have been in the final battle along the others

[@PhilospherDjPsychologist24]

@@lyanaara970 eh, I wasn't too crazy about the ending, I mean I know its Dracula, but we never really see him doing anything amazing, I mean he has super powers he can pull straight out of his ass, but seeing Carmella scheme through season 2 at least makes me see why she is compelling in her own right. I don't see why everyone wants to bring him back alive, Dracula was at his best with Lisa, but that was like 2 minutes of the show, and considering what martyr Lisa was, I think she should be a little pissed about Dracula tried to commit genocide, but she sweeps that under the rug really quick . also they haven't figured out what to do with alucard since the end of season 2

[@bloodtypeinfinity5143]

"Only the death matters now..." One must wonder if Dracula knew about Varney all along. If so that is some EPIC foreshadowing.

[@nathancurnutt8074]

I am almost completely sure death started this entire thing by reporting Lisa to the church and informing them about her "witch craft" and marrying "satan". I don't know if Dracula knew Varney was death itself though, but I bet he could tell Vareny wasn't a vampire and that there was something really off about him by just how bad Vareny smelled. That's my best guess as to why Dracula sent him somwhere so out of the way.

[@gunzkiller101]

I like to believe the opposite. I don’t think Dracula knew about Varney or SPOILER 💀. Like another vampire said, why would he send you to a place that he already destroy? Unless he went there originally to feed off hundreds of souls left behind. As for his story about being Dracula loyal general. I think Varney made that up so that other vampires would follow him. There is the possibility that Dracula did meet Varney but I don’t they had season 4 in mind at the time of writing.

[@Crichjo32]

It would make sense if Death/Varney started the whole thing, by manipulating events to have Lisa killed by the church, and make Dracula go on a genocidal rampage. That would effectively make him the main villain of the whole series.

[@snakestaffmagic4499]

Well he was still on draculas council, i believe he still sent him to where his wife died as an order

[@natedagreat19]

@@snakestaffmagic4499 it’s unclear how much of Varney’s exposition was bullshit. He talked out of his ass a majority of the time and I find it hard to believe Dracula knew Varney for a Century and didn’t figure out he was a literal spirit. Otherwise it was ALL bs and Varney never really knew Dracula personally at all. He just ate his aftermath.

[@jakeohalloran952]

Absolutely brilliant writing. To come back after the finale is a great feeling.

[@matthewmuir8884]

In retrospect, does anyone else think it might've been better if Hector's betraying of Dracula had been his own decision born out of moral dilemma, rather than him being tricked by Carmilla? I honestly thought that was what they were setting up with scenes like this one, the flashback to Dracula convincing Hector to join him and the conversation between Dracula and Isaac about Hector, and I think it would've been more compelling if Hector had to choose between his morals and continuing to help Dracula and he chose the former.

[@IGeorge94]

That actually happened in the original games story.

[@matthewmuir8884]

@@IGeorge94 I see. That makes a lot of sense, considering I know that Hector was the protagonist of his own game.

[@BigMac8000]

Who says he was ever tricked? A subtlety of Hector's character is to think, act, and keep his trap shut. When Dracula came to his home and asked him to help him exterminate all of mankind - do you think you say "no" to that? He tells you that he's going to kill absolutely everyone and you, a forgemaster, have one of the most powerful tools to fight Dracula ever. Do you think you're going to stay in your humble little shack and he's going to leave you alone? If a miracle occurs between gentleman of respect, which might've happened, exactly how long until the war finds you anyway? How long will you be able to stay neutral in a genocide? Not long. Not long at all. Dracula is an educated man, but sooner or later - the educated will find you. Hector's strength comes not from breaking his chains, but living comfortably under them. He works within the system, not outside it. Dracula, a man of respect, offered him a position of counsel and respect - one where he may be able to convince Dracula to organize a culling... and cage the rest. A fate he personally would enjoy, so he sees no fault in it. Carmilla was the same - he saw her ambition, he saw Dracula could not be dissuaded, and he saw no other faction in which to align himself. Carmilla wanted a culling - Dracula wanted death. Slight upgrade. Allying with Carmilla suggested Hector had some humanity - but moreso that he'd been paying attention. His own treatment via Carmilla told him volumes about this potential. Had he not met Lenore, he would not have been caged forever. Either Dracula would come for him, or he'd find his own way out - the joy of being useful to society is that you often don't spend too long in cages. Lenore? She wanted peace. Sure, she slipped him a painful knot, but largely he was fine with that too. An organized culling and for the rest to be caged. She asked him what he wanted every step of the way and he got it. The ring? Sure it was a threat, but in the end, the ring assured mutual trust, a comfortable life, and freedom - and excuse to not take arms up against Carmilla or to take revenge. Take away certain freedoms - and you get out of the cage. The hallmark of an educated man is to listen instead of speak. Lenore was quite clever, if you listen to their first meetings, she asks him what he wants unabashedly and gives it to him. She somewhat confronts his own hypocrisy, as he relinquishes himself from his own cage and helps Isaac - but he didn't know that's what he wanted until he was, in fact, leashed. He was in a gilded cage, comfortable, intellectually satisfying - and with a woman who, inarguably abusive, he quite cared for. Take a moment and imagine that perhaps Hector was never fooled by anyone. Perhaps surprised by Carmilla's callousness, perhaps surprised by Dracula's depth of depression... perhaps surprised that Lenore was more capable than he'd ever imagined... But in the end, Hector got what he wanted. A comfortable room in which to read and write. Caged up by Isaac... but not alone. Lenore dies, but he still has Isaac and his tools. If there's a tragedy to Hector's story it isn't from lack of capability or understanding of others - but his own inability to appreciate life. His tragedy comes from appreciating, far too much, unlife and immortality. When his dog dies, he revives him with a demonic soul and goes on his merry way - completely oblivious to the fact that it is no longer the animal he cared for. This is Hector's tragedy embodied. Because to him, its service mattered more than its life. It's why he doesn't step forward to stop Lenore from killing herself, it's why he goes from leader to leader without concern. When Dracula came to Hector, he was living in a shack. A prison of his own malaise. No great calling. Merely an ostracized forge master, possibly self-exiled, living a humble life of learning... but no ties, no family, not enough self respect to say no. Was he happy there? The search for meaning is at times at odds with intellectual growth, they are at times mutually exclusive. "Ignorance is bliss" they say. When it comes to life, and living, Hector always chose bliss over growth. He chose to forge a demon soul into a dog as a boy - but in doing so, created a form of exquisite form of denial. He was crying before that happened, but stopped after, despite the fact that all beauty had left that animal. It was a husk piloted by a wretched soul but to him, it was "alive". Hector has no appreciation for the soul or its nuances, and this is his tragedy. And he cares the same for his own soul. He was never ignorant. Some of the smartest men and women you know, will be ripped asunder by choices that have nothing to do with the intellect or moral quandary. Eventually everybody scratches that itch, even if they know it's bad for them. If you look at Hector as humble, you'll realize many times he held his tongue so it wouldn't be snatched out - he played the parts, he wore the clothes, but they were never really worse than what he started in. What he wore as a boy. Intelligence is a dangerous thing to wave around - sometimes humility is what saves you. Just waiting... and not waving around your plans until you meet someone ready to hear them. Even Lenore was utterly shocked by his ability to remove his chains. He cuts his finger off with little fuss. Hector... there's a lot more to that character. Not all who wander are lost.

[@adenrius]

@@BigMac8000 What a great analysis!

[@colinvelez3210]

@@BigMac8000 goddamn dude, what a great take. Shows even more how talented the show writers are/were. Thanks for the great analysis!

[@ycleptubi8935]

When character development in a show based on a video game is better than most

[@ramiel3759]

People talking in a room for hours about how evil they are is not development its just filling time

[@lonearachnid6591]

@@ramiel3759 well dracula isn’t evil and neither are the two of them imo, just people with different objectives

[@ramiel3759]

@@lonearachnid6591 different objectives of being evil👍👍👍

[@lonearachnid6591]

@@ramiel3759 the humans in general were pretty evil too, so if everyone is evil, then yes, you’re right.

[@jordyisdrunk]

@@ramiel3759 again wrong again and he is basing is it off season 4 this whole scene is a foreshadowing and showing why they are chosen over the other vampires I swear you didn’t even watch the whole series. It shows a great change in characters between how they were in season 2 compared too season 4

[@allykal43]

I find it interesting, after watching it for fun, to go back and look at it through a different lenses. You see the foreshadowing of Hector's betrayal but you also see earlier how close they are to Dracula. Issac is the first to move and he moves to stand to Dracula's right. He is also looking at Dracula while he talks, places a hand on Dracula's shoulder like companion. Meanwhile Hector moves to left in front of the fire. Distancing himself from both Dracula and Issac. At the end of the scene you see Issac close to Dracula and a noticeable gap between them and Hector, all looking into the fire. As well as in 0:29 The camera moves where the primary focus is not Dracula but his wife Lisa. As Dracula rants about how vampires see humans, he is thinking of his deceased wife, a strong, intelligent woman. I love this show and god damn there is soo much to examine and think about.

[@LordChronk]

When I watched season 4 no recap based by some bits of memories of the past seasons its amazing how they've changed from here to what they are now, amazing character development.

[@majava5282]

The camera lingering on Hector when Dracula says that humans 'scheme and betray' is just *chef kiss* Excellent visual bit of foreshadowing!

[@tsarfox3462]

The writing in this show is friggen god-tier. It actually makes you feel sorry for an all-powerful, bloodsucking monster. I mean, definitely not ok to kill all humans but, also not ok to burn medical professionals that are just trying to help.

[@smward87]

To be fair, he gave the people of Wallachia a full year to evacuate and save themselves. They refused and stayed, which only reaffirmed his growing hatred and contempt for humanity. He literally tells them to leave or die. And they ignored him.

[@tsarfox3462]

@@smward87 Yeah I tend to agree. Dude just wanted to live with his wife in peace and some idiots burned her alive. I'm totally fine burning that entire city to ash and murdering everyone involved in her death. But that's where I'd stop.

[@marvelous_680]

Hector in the thumbnail looks like a kid asking their mom if they can buy glue for their project at 2 in the morning.

[@joshuagraham2843]

kentaro miura just died creator of berserk castlevania animated series inspired from berserk

[@hazeygrace8122]

He died on May 6th, he didn't die today. The information was just late

[@DT-yw4ob]

Tbh, after the Day Armor scene, i want the studio to handle a future Berserk adaptation

[@alternator7893]

"Only the death, only the death maters now". If only Barney could have heard Dracula back then.

[@Johnny.1994]

The first 2 seasons with Dracula were more atmospheric and dark grim than last 2 seasons i liked them more.

[@abdellah7879]

He didn't even appear in the last two seasons

[@Johnny.1994]

@@abdellah7879 that's my point

[@Ismael-kc3ry]

@@abdellah7879 well he did appear in season 4

[@Jobe-13]

What twisted depressive logic. Love it. Perfect motive for the king of vampires.

[@alwaysturnonaircon]

Godbrand : theyre livestock They forget the belmont clan which are human scorching their kind for thousands of years are livestock too i guess. Lol

[@thatdood9303]

“Think, scheme, and betray” , then Carmilla shows up

[@squidgelad1983]

Honestly, the main pro of working for Dracula is the epic outfit you get

[@TheMarionick]

Best Dracula portrayal ever. Heck he's even the only mainstream one who is accurate to the description in Bram Stoker's book

[@DraculaCronqvist]

This is not at all accurate to Bram Stoker's book, not even close.

[@TheMarionick]

I only said his look is accurate to the book. This is one of two on-screen Dracula’s that I’ve seen with a beard.

[@DraculaCronqvist]

@@TheMarionick But that's not the case. This Dracula doesn't have just a mustache but a goatee and he's also dressed in red and black, instead of just black. His hair is also long, instead of in such a style so as to reveal bumpy ridges on his forehead.

[@dihnrq]

@@DraculaCronqvist accurate is too much, but, the face is much like Bram Stoker describes, the fact that he is an academic more than a warrior too, and always a gentleman talking with pace and politely, that’s Bram Stoker right there. Of course isn’t the same, but in these and some more you can see similarities

[@DraculaCronqvist]

@@dihnrq Even that is not really true. The only commonality they have is that they both look intelligent. But Bram Stoker's Dracula was completely white-haired, had a heavy mustache and no other facial hair and was extremely old looking - not gracefully aged, either. Just... decrepit.

[@willemcostigan-jones2550]

Did anyone else find the anti-hero/villains arc more entertaining and thought provoking than the main antagonist? I always feel like this show what truly written with a passion I have not seen in animation in a long long time.

[@PizzaBagels589]

I honestly wonder if Isaac himself could have lead the war, given how he lead those armies of night creatures to hundreds of people. And with each slaughter, his army gets exponentially stronger. Hell, he annihilated Styria with the luck of stumbling upon Miranda. Then again, he lacked the autonomy that he had in Season 3. He gained that when Dracula freed him from their master/servant relationship. So maybe not.

[@Lonehawk2k4]

nice foreshadowing on hector's betrayal with the scene cutting to him when dracula talks about how humans betray each other

[@ampocalypsew3883]

Now it makes sense why he said (only the death matters)

[@shaldlay2478]

Not gonna lie, I kinda miss the more down to earth feeling the first seasons had

[@darthvader3910]

Same, I love dracula as the character, the voice actor speaking has just perfect clear cut english

[@juannaym8488]

Dracula makes genuily so much sense here

[@PR1ME98]

Manz doesn’t even want the ppl to suffer anymore. Just death. Damn.

[@adamhawk160]

I really want a prequel series of this Dracula from birth all the way to losing his love.

[@jamesvanitas]

Lament Of Innocence is basically the prequel

[@tenzwoser1]

An underrated show

[@98-carlmarkmarak22]

The fact that Dracula's most trusted people were 3 humans says alot about his humanity

[@ashikadnan4153]

The suffering doesn't matter anymore only the death. I feel bad for varney :(

[@zaberfang]

Wait till you get to the end part.

[@ashikadnan4153]

@@zaberfangI know he is death.

[@pencilwatchesstuff791]

"Suffering doesn't really matter to me anymore, Isaac. Only the death. Only the death matters now." _I don't think he was talking about the humans' death anymore here and neither of them realized._

[@roryspeight-burns2554]

Dracula: Eveyone else will get out smarted by the "LiVestOck". Hector: Huh oh yea didn't think about that

[@infedius7214]

Hector Salamanca was my fav.... oh damn wrong show!

[@grimshock6983]

Best incarnation of Dracula 2nd is Hotel Transylvania Edit: It’s a joke

[@quicksilver36]

That's quite the contrast.

[@grimshock6983]

@@quicksilver36 It’s a joke

[@Roachomane]

It really do be your right hand man in the end!

[@brancodiaz6019]

That's subtlety when the panel goes to Hector as Dracula is talking about scheming and betrayal

[@smokeman13]

The music is so haunting. Is this available anywhere?

[@christianyaerger1751]

It's curious how Dracula can make these arguments, without knowing that such a sweeping generalization encompasses his wife. It's hypocrisy. When you've lost everything, it can make sense... but it's still hypocrisy.

[@dagdammit]

He would say his wife was the best of them. And that he has judged humankind for what they *did with* the best of them.

[@dungeonguy88]

Yeah, Dracula was spiraling, completely losing all perspective. As said in the show itself, this was just a long, drawn out suicide for Dracula.

[@karanparmar4754]

Dont worry ,humans have done the same numerous times .. Dracula lost his wife ,,but humans have done mass massacre and extinction for just money.

[@Visplight]

He's lying to them as well. They're in charge because it maximizes the chance of someone taking him out. It pisses off his vampire generals while giving the forgemasters more opportunity to take him out. He's just stirring shit to see what floats to the top.

[@Lechuga1815]

Dracula: "I hate humans because all they do is scheme and betray" *Dracula's entire war council literally scheming and betraying at that very moment* It's not subtle but I like how it's the catalyst for Hector and Isaac's arc and for Dracula to accept his insanity and his death at the end of the season.

[@jrax1713]

Well, I also really love about this scene is that it doesn’t seem like Dracula really separates humans and vampires too much even stating that they can’t see humans is thinking beings anymore because of their condition

[@mksmike]

"You can't hate livestock" xD Bruh, people can hate anything, even stuff that doesn't exist.

[@JimmyXWolvie]

"...only the DEATH matters now." ...Hmmm.

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

Gotcha, fam. See. What you do is get a giant and a dragon to kill each other. Then their rotting corpses will carry diseases that cause humans to either turn into salt or mutate. Pretty soon humanity will go extinct... Yes, that's how humanity died out in the Nier series.

[@TheAllSeeingEye2468]

Vampires are humans. I think people forget that. And vampires can also betray.

[@christiancroom3386]

His exsitance as the progenitor gave him a greater insight into humans then the other vamps did. The show got that one right. You kinda get the sense of it playing the games. And then the show basically elaborated on it by changing the context of the character great job he went from big baddie boss character to imposing vampire that is driven to see his truth through to the end. Even if painstakingly

[@mightymulatto3000]

So essentially Dracula told Hector a lie to start but Hector once realizing what it was decided to keep one hand on the wheel.

[@TheRenzer9]

That sense of authority coming from dracula...Damnnnn awesome 👍

[@wolfking4879]

They will suffer!... I love Isaac's commitment

[@TheBombayMasterTony]

The matter is closed...

[@Anime-Doof]

"...and betray..." (Focuses on Hector) Huh...wonder what that was about...

[@thesupreme7501]

Dracula was basically saying that while humans has some good traits, their capacity for evil is greater. So they must be destroyed.

[@Dewlone]

Man the animation was so much better in this season.

[@alexander2019.]

When was there a downgrade

[@Tuskbumper]

@@alexander2019. exactly

[@thorveim1174]

what boggles the mind is that despite hearing all that, hector STILL believes Dracula is only after a culling and not complete extermination

[@gianlalwet647]

You know, when Dracula said that all that matters was the "Death"? After watching season 4 it makes so much sense now

[@Lieutenant_Dude]

Vlad has palpable depression in this scene. He's barely able to maintain the slightest motivation to manage his army of misfit rogues. I think depression makes for interesting villains. Depression and self loathing were what made Darth Vader so unique to me. Because if you can hate yourself, you can hate anything.

[@pinkstrawberries1768]

Hector realizing he fucked up he got involved it’s the wrong dude

[@arkboi2145]

Random side note -- I wonder if anyone ever thought to make some vampires think of humans as pets or companions? I mean, in multiple forms of media, people have written and portrayed vampires to think of humans as "food," "livestock," "animals," "lesser creatures," and "things." But I've never really seen anyone have a take where a vampire thinks of a human as a pet, much like a human does with a dog or a cat. Yes, they're family. Yes, you love and will care for them and yes, you will mourn their passing. But primarily they're for our comfort and amusement.

[@Azrael713]

You just described Lenore. The vampire who literally made Hector her pet.

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

I mean, some people say that Dracula is basically vampire John Wick.

[@601marcusable]

She gave him humanity and Love but that’s gone so only thing dracula can bring is death

[@antagerinyes]

Okay but why is he so fine.

[@davysamir2289]

Its quite weird that NONE of both thought that another point Why Dracula would chose them to lead is because the Night Creatures only follow their will!

[@aden8669]

No they were confused why didn't he chose his own kind ...but dracula knew that his own kind would betray him....and I think except of those two one of them were intelligent enough in that court as dracula said

[@khotunkhan3950]

Haha Tepes is smart asf Saw potential out of the 2 of them and then at the end of the series, they ended coming up on top

[@gadgetmoogle6355]

"Only the death matters now.... only the death." ... Ok so in retrospect, am I the only one picking up that he wasn't just talking about the death of the humans, at this point? Given that... you know... "Worlds longest suicide note."

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

If that's the case, then there's no need for foot (claw?) soldiers. Ains only used soldiers in Overlord to draw out the terror. If you're just looking for instant death, go do like Yasunori Kato in Teito Monogatari, and use geomancy for earthquakes, and provoke a foreign superpower to drop nukes.

[@IronheartvsMiles]

Isaac is the best part of this show

[@TheArtisticGamer7]

SPOILERS SEASON 4 Only the death matters now.. Only the death... JFC he DID promise "varney"....

[@Konghammer1]

I would've have been 100% ok if the entire show was about these two.

[@kingstarscream320]

Part of me wishes Dracula came back for another fight in Season 4.

[@fawfulmark2]

I mean he ALMOST did as Rebis.

[@suwitohakim8017]

And Dracula was transform into a demon bats lol

[@karanparmar4754]

Na ,, they will again kill him with some silly magician training to fights for weeks but actually lots better than avatar himself and a human who grew up in streets but can fight and defeat whole army of usa or russia using his magic chain. I feel sad to feel their pathetic fights .

[@BigMac8000]

They're making spin off series, very likely involving the other Belmonts or other time periods and games. We'll be seeing Dracula again.

[@austinobst8989]

The show does a good job of showing just how irredeemable vampire kind is. The only one that could see humans as people was Dracula.

[@Falling4000]

Fuck it i'm on board genocide it is

[@EJayMD-11]

How exactly are vampires different? Vampires in his court did exactly what he accused humans of doing lol

[@blackpowderkun]

Tvtropes pointed out Dracula may want vampires to go as well since they were humans before.

[@swagkage7550]

What’s the background ost at 1:00

[@colechestnut6627]

I dont blame Dracula, I see thi go the same way, if I could id wipe out most humans make them start over, learn to be better

[@artypyrec4186]

What was Hector reason for hating people. I mean I understand why he would hate them being a forge master. Issac hatred wasn't just a forge master hatred but even if he wasn't one seemed he would still hate humanity. Hector on the other hand the hatred didn't seem like it was there, just a easiness to him, not willing to eradicate humanity but not give his life protecting them either.

[@Michael-590]

Hector’s parents hated and abused him. His mother basically said she wished he had never been born, and I think it’s implied that his father took advantage of his dark gift of creating night creatures so that he could sell them off, and dismissed his concerns.

[@artypyrec4186]

@@Michael-590 oh that Issac comment to Dracula makes sense.

[@Michael-590]

@@artypyrec4186 Yeah, the part where Hector remembers his parents words while looking at the fire was cut out. It’s also implied that Hector either burnt down his parents house directly or that his night creatures did so for him.

[@moviesfriendly1717]

Kiling humans not believe the form of extermine humans, Héctor ans isacc the betters mans un the cort of dracula.

[@lucasmellocaribe4086]

This cartoon is japanese or American?

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

American aniamted, despite the fact that the franchise is Japanese. Basically the opposite of Cyberpunk Edgerunners where it's Japanese animation of a western franchise.

[@ryanwarner5006]

I don't get this. I mean everything he is accusing humans of his vampires are doing. It just makes no sense.

[@Oscar-j6b]

Well he did turn into what he hates so I think it is fitting that he doesn't see his own hypocrisy

[@ramiel3759]

Dracula is an idiot just like everyone in this show,this makes sense

[@matthewmuir8884]

It was heavily implied in later episodes of season 2 that he wanted this war against humanity to kill the vampires as well. He says that, after killing all the humans, he will give the Earth to the Night Creatures; not the vampires, and when he teleports the castle to Brela, he says, "To Brela, to satisfy the demands of my soldiers *that will all starve to death within the year."* He is aware that the vampires are no better and he's trying to kill them all too. Interestingly, the first vampire to piece this together is Godbrand, who also figured out that Dracula hasn't fed in a long time and is not at full strength.

[@matthewmuir8884]

@Joseph Douek That's certainly possible, though I don't think Carmilla would've cared since she was always going to betray Dracula for her own selfish reasons. I just remember Godbrand screaming, "We're all going to die!" before telling Carmilla, "This ain't a war; it's a suicide. His wife's dead, he wants to join her, and he's going to take all of us down with him!" and then adding, "I still wouldn't wanna take him in a fight, but I suspect he hasn't fed in a long time."

[@matthewmuir8884]

@Joseph Douek When did I show up in season 2?

[@valoredramack9117]

Misanthropes like myself can completely relate with Issac; he despised humans more than any living being in the show, even more than Dracula.

[@pheonix8167]

Dracula died then came back with his wife

[@dmkape9829]

2:21 blm explained in a few seconds

[@wolfhowl983]

Spoiler: 3 insane lunatics, responsible for the deaths of thousand upon thousand of innocent children. Yet all three of them got happy freaking endings. This turned out to be a way sicker story than I thought. -.- Castlevania ended up as one of the most disappointing endings to an otherwise great show, so bad my whole perception of the show went from an overall nine to a six or seven because of the resolution to these three monsters' storylines. There are two things that make a character unredeemable in a story for me, one is knowingly and willingly murdering or being directly responsible for the murdering of children. At best the character should be locked up with no chance of ever harming anyone, not freaking rewarded with kingdoms and fresh starts... frick their endings...

[@Error-sr4cx]

I always thought of it as trying to show how evil something can be for it to be redeemable. It also gives nuance to otherwise stale characters. They are insane and hypocrites yes but I think in this hyperbolic dark world everyone is. It supposed to give reason to evil not to defend it.

[@t.a6159]

Redemption arc bro.

[@wolfhowl983]

@@Error-sr4cx The problem with that is, their ending isn't what keeps them interesting, their motivations and personality does. Giving them good endings justifies their actions in a narrative sense, not in a character sense. Dracula should have stayed dead. Isaac should have died fighting Camilla. And Hector... Hector should probably have stayed under Lenore or been the one to get a suicide scene. Their depths isn't the problem rewarding them in the end is... one of the monsters ended as a freaking ruler despite being worse than nearly all the vamps with storyarchs.

[@SurzhenkoAndrii]

Let's compare life of owners of nike and children with born disabilities due to the production pollution in India. I am not sure that the first ones are commonly regarded as human scam.

[@Error-sr4cx]

@@wolfhowl983 I can agree with that. They definitely wanted to start and end everything with dracula and Lisa together even if it was a like abrasive story wise. It be Castlevania they obviously can't keep dracula dead for long. As for Issac, I think he definitely needed more thought into how he'd feel about his previous wrongdoings now that he's changed. I definitely thought the hector and Lenore stuff was either underdeveloped or just a way for Hector to get a win.

[@checkoutmyplaylistsforente8054]

2:26 This has so much more impact after season 4

[@upmoodletsreach60ksubscrib9]

This got dark pretty quickly. And hey yo I think Dracula hates humans.

[@DraculaCronqvist]

I have my problems with this show, but the portrayal of Dracula and Isaac was interesting. The way Isaac placed his hand on Dracula's shoulder, his master, and reassured him that everything was alright, and that he would see such ghastly work done until the very end, just for Dracula's benefit, was an interesting twist on their relationship beyond Master and Servant.

[@lenobleprince6792]

I honestly wonder how things would have gone assuming no one was able to stand up to Dracula? Would he have ordered Isaac and Hector to commit suicide? Kill them himself? Turn them into vampires? Or maybe do as Hector wished and left some humans?

[@thethe2851]

Could you rebuild humanity

[@ceceka13]

I find Hector attractive