Measuring with a laser Level - Fitted Furniture - Joinery - Whole houses!

[@gerry5084]

what a combo - best measuring system with the master carpentry skills - great video and commentry

[@BradshawJoinery]

Nice one Gerry, very kind of you! Appreciate it

[@royordway9157]

I have commented on you videos a few times, they are all great. When I started as a carpenter in 1975, we would draw limes on the wall with one level and one plumb. All measurements would be taken from those limes. Just 4 or 5 years ago I decided to use an inexpensive Bosch laser level instead of drawing lines and all of that crap. What a huge difference it made in my life. Having a level line in "space" made taking some measurements so easy and I didn't need a helper.

[@BradshawJoinery]

Yes Roy! Its such a revelation isnt it I cannot believe they arent marketed in such a manner, its the main use for the laser for me!

[@royordway9157]

@@BradshawJoinery You can teach an old dog new tricks. For years I thought a multi tool was a bunch of crap until I used one. Now I have both corded and cordless multi tools.

[@popmop1234]

Thanks for the vid - Would be great to see a deeper comparison of the HIlti and Huepar

[@simonearp9214]

Fantastic video Ollie, thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge.

[@BradshawJoinery]

Cheers Simon, No worries

[@als4817]

Excellent video and explanation. Thank you for clarifying the various price points of lasers.

[@BradshawJoinery]

Thankyou!

[@MrPanohead]

Sounds nice and clear to me. Will help a lot of people out.

[@BradshawJoinery]

Cheers Matey

[@philipwilliams8114]

Excellent as ever. The thumbnail of you in the corner when explaining the plan was epic editing. Ollie Spielberg!

[@BradshawJoinery]

Haha Cheers Philip, glad it was appreciated, took me a whole day that edit LOL! I wanted to explain in the best way possible as just talking it through might be confusing

[@simonearp9214]

Really appreciate you taking the time to explain this. Great videos !

[@BradshawJoinery]

Thanks Simon

[@gavin6538]

That was a fantastic video Really well explained. I look forward to seeing how you get the face of the unit fit the opening.

[@BradshawJoinery]

Hi Gavin, Ive not filmed the installation unfortunately time constraints took over. I ended up making the double doors and then scribing that into one side, then scribing the single door jamb In and glueing together in place (domino joint in the faceframe 👍

[@Quaker521]

Always interesting to see how a professional works through a job.

[@BradshawJoinery]

Cheers matey

[@disbenefits]

brilliant explanation. if you're watching this and thinking of getting a folding rule make sure you buy a white one, it shows the laser much better than black.

[@BradshawJoinery]

I pinned your comment as its really helpful, thanks

[@gavin6538]

I was just about to order one Glad I read this.

[@BradshawJoinery]

Gavin these are the best rulers I've used to date....

[@BradshawJoinery]

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[@raydriver7300]

You are a clever man, Oliver. So much information so well presented 🌞

[@BradshawJoinery]

Cheers Ray. 😎

[@zephyr1408]

Always look forward to your teaching videos! Although I would say it’s more for the pro that’s what I am all game for but if the DIY’rs want to game in then I salute them!

[@BradshawJoinery]

Cheers Zephyr, Yeah maybe more competent DIY but there is always things to learn at any level

[@robertmurray153]

Finally, back in stock. I just ordered mine 👍

[@BradshawJoinery]

Nice one Robert. I'm glad I shared it 👍

[@gregkieser1157]

Great video - super helpful. I’m doing built ins and this will definitely help.

[@BradshawJoinery]

Nice one Greg, yeah will deffo up your game, and look more pro at the same time

[@kristapple]

Brilliant explanation of using a laser level at it’s best, been on the fence about buying one for doing some diy jobs, will be ordering one now, thanks again Ollie 🙂

[@BradshawJoinery]

Cheers Neil, its the best thing since sliced bread

[@craigbrown8968]

Brilliant. Good to see what I do every day. Very impressed.

[@BradshawJoinery]

Nice one Craig!! Thanks

[@leftwichprojects]

Great video Ollie 👍🏼 I survey pretty much exactly the same way and this is the perfect video for anyone wanting to learn how to accurately produce a built in for a given space. Well impressed with the £78 laser too! Look forward to the next video champ 🙌🏼

[@BradshawJoinery]

Thanks Jason, thats good to hear, it works spot on so not surprised if others are doing the same.

[@jimbartley9125]

Nice clear explanation. Look forward to seeing the next. Cheers Jim

[@BradshawJoinery]

Thanks 👍 Coming soon

[@JPGuay]

Looking forward to the next step !

[@BradshawJoinery]

Thankyou!

[@Dazza19746]

Brilliant as usual Ollie 👍🏻 With regards to fitting a flat panel joinery product into anywhere basically, we always made it anywhere from panel thickness (18-22 mm whatever) smaller, both sides and that was a ‘scriber’ which I always liked and thought looked best inline with the plane of the face of the doors. That basically makes worrying about being exactly square when measuring completely redundant as you’ve got a tonne of wiggle room ( did that make sense) Laser is so handy eh? Having those dead accurate plumb/ level square ‘datum’ to work off 👍🏻 even for fitting a new sash in an existing frame that might be super old and a mile out of square, you can work out ‘the wonk’ to make it, so it all looks right to the eye and isn’t a ‘wedge’ where you’ve fitted a bigger ‘square’ one to the shape as 90 percent of them would 😜 My old laser got chucked a while back, ended up with a cracked lense in the soft cover?!? I’ll never know…? And old batteries that went bad in tool ( crusty) Been looking for a new one, don’t use them that much but great to have when you do!! Don’t wanna spend a mint/ but don’t want junk! Ordered! Got the original? ( first one you listed) decent discount too👍🏻 Cheers mate👍🏻

[@BradshawJoinery]

Cheers mate, good work on ordering quick, i think stocks are low! Im very impressed as i mentioned, and sounds like youve got the use of it sussed!

[@khansk36]

Excellent tips saves adjusting walls or carcasses on site Tnx 4 sharing appreciated m8

[@BradshawJoinery]

Cheers Mate, absolutley!

[@khansk36]

@@BradshawJoinery ur welcome m8 thanks again its template without a template lol

[@theofarmmanager267]

My major issues with lasers have been: Width of the laser beam when it hits walls or whatever. That line is too wide for accuracy Getting and keeping the laser itself perfectly level. If the laser itself is not perfectly level in both planes, the lines will exaggerate that inaccuracy I will admit that I have been using the cheaper lasers of the style you showed and dismissed. I have just bought the green laser you recommended from Amazon - delivery tomorrow as I have to start coving, picture rails, door casings and skirtings - all in oak - tomorrow; 14 doors plus 2 openings that don’t have doors. The issue with getting it and using it so quickly is that I don’t give myself any time to get to understand how the laser works; at my age, all technology takes much longer to absorb, understand and put into action than a “youngster” like Ollie who was brought up with tech all around. I still remember using the old mechanical calculator to do stocktaking; we couldn’t believe the first electronic calculator we saw (Sinclair?); so much smaller and easier. Now, that Sinclair is probably regarded as almost primeval.

[@BradshawJoinery]

you need a laser with a clean line, and work to the centre of the line. Very accurate. Self levelling pendulum is the same level until it rund out of adjustment at which point it flashes... Set the laser up 100mm or so away from your install and them measure back to it with a rule and the laser wont be in the way. Lol at the calculator, I still prefer a proper calculator to the phone.

[@listerjoinery]

Made loads of sense good vid. Cheers

[@BradshawJoinery]

Cheers matey

[@megaman2016]

Quantity craftsmanship

[@BradshawJoinery]

Thankyou!!

[@leeedwards3783]

Wow, just mulling over it. So the 1st level you use to mark the front of the face frame and measure left and right. The 2nd level is to mark height from line up and down? Think I got it. Great video. Love em

[@BradshawJoinery]

Yeah pretty much. 1st gives you the position to measure to, the laser in the mid of room pointing back is set square and can be measured to from all points. both at face frame location and back of carcass. guaranteeing itll fit!

[@jrsuk1170]

You appear to implement the same strategy as me when pairing socks, same but different 👍

[@BradshawJoinery]

Mainly because it winds my partner up so much when they are odd come hanging them out to dry! haha

[@jrsuk1170]

@@BradshawJoinery In that case she'll be raging if she clocks you in this video 😂

[@jamesmills6766]

What a great video, thankyou!

[@BradshawJoinery]

Cheers James!

[@Blade1310]

Top class Ollie. I think I've got these maths lessons cracked. Can't wait to move on from trigonometry to algebra 😁

[@BradshawJoinery]

Good to hear your not having to stay after class! You wait for the IT lesson next😖🤣

[@isnie]

this is valuable stuff, can't wait for part 2

[@BradshawJoinery]

THankyou Coming soon!

[@paulzirker706]

Great video Oliver. Looking forward to you showing how you use Google sketch up as I'm just starting out doing a similar thing but no where near the quality you make.

[@BradshawJoinery]

Nice one Paul, be a good video for you matey. Its not really a tutorial, but you should be able to follow if you pay attention and see where i click etc...

[@markrussell9719]

Fantastic video Ollie - I will definitely be using this tip. Unfortunately it seems the discount code no longer works 🙃

[@BradshawJoinery]

Cheers mark, I think the discount depends on which website you are on, try both .com and the UK version. I bought from the .com and it worked 👍

[@danpappy]

How bright is the huepar 6141g please? Ive got a Milwaukee and its super bright.

[@BradshawJoinery]

pretty darn good, almost identical to the hilti PM40 i have. And it cost under £100...!

[@danpappy]

@@BradshawJoinery Thanks for getting back to me so quick mate. Cheers 👍🏻

[@M4NC0L]

Hi Oliver, thanks a lot for making this video. The explanation of how to use laser level to avoid surprises at the assembly stage was very meticulous, thanks! I have one question that maybe you or someone else can explain to me. At 11:43, you mention that the cabinet should be 4 mm larger than it would be based on separate measurements at the top and bottom heights. In that case, how are you going to fit the cabinet into the recess?

[@BradshawJoinery]

Thankyou, It will need to be scribed into place. so set the frame level (at and angle as it wont fit in) then scribe one side in, and then the other... it ensures the frame will meet the wall everywhere

[@M4NC0L]

@@BradshawJoinery Thank you for your response. I am having a difficulty in picturing this in my head... If you scribe out part of the wall at a certain level on the left and right, you would be able bring the cabinet inside, I get the idea. However in this scenario, this would mean that the left side of the cabinet's body will be partially recessed into the wall. As a result, the front part of the 18mm body will not be entirely visible from the front. I'm assuming that you will carve out the entire wall on the right, and by first positioning the left part of the cabinet body, you will then insert the right part. Is that correct?

[@BradshawJoinery]

@@M4NC0L scribe the frame in as just a face frame, then attach to the cabinets once it's scribed I don't know how else to explain it, I will show it in a video many moons from now 😂👍

[@M4NC0L]

@@BradshawJoinery Thank you Oliver :)

[@BradshawJoinery]

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[@LTWCarpentry]

Great video mate, really interesting to see how you carry out your measuring up. Also completely agree with the huepar levels. I’ve done a fair bit of work with them now and can’t fault there products. Looking forward to seeing the follow up video to this one !

[@BradshawJoinery]

Cheers matey, Yeah they cant be faulted for the price. Ive sold them out i think

[@LTWCarpentry]

@@BradshawJoinery I did have a look at getting one but yes I think you have 😂

[@rossmckenzie2283]

Love your "seven" annotations. Are they for you or someone else?

[@BradshawJoinery]

haha, The guy i was measuring for is someone i work with and his 7's look like ones (1's) so i asked him to make the 7's clear this time (jokingly) so he made them very clear as he wrote down my measurments lol

[@carllamb6711]

Hi Ollie Great in-depth content mate, I love my folding rule use it on nearly every job, I’ll have to look at upgrading my Dewalt laser 👍🪚👍🪚

[@BradshawJoinery]

Cheers Carl. I have grown to using one after working with a chap who used one a lot. I took the p**s for a start but now its indispensable for me

[@carllamb6711]

@@BradshawJoinery I’m the same mate & thanks for always replying mate

[@DavePawson]

What's the 'wooden' rule you're using please Ollie?

[@BradshawJoinery]

This one... amzn.to/3rPgrWK Buy the pack of 10 they are the best I've found and very cheap at that.

[@darkarts59]

The Huepar 6141Gs seem to be out of stock everywhere.

[@BradshawJoinery]

Yeah, they didnt have many and wanted me to promote a different laser because of that fact, but i think this one is the one to have hence recomending it anyway.

[@mauserkk98]

I need a laser upgrade .

[@BradshawJoinery]

Get on it while they are still available !

[@DrunkenKnight71]

thanks for the video...just tried the code but unfortunately it says it's not valid, will hold off on ordering for now

[@BradshawJoinery]

I have sent them a message, maybe me using it made them realise it was still active so they removed it. Will see what they say

[@BradshawJoinery]

Hi matey I messaged them and they reinstated the code. £91.30

[@DrunkenKnight71]

@@BradshawJoinery great thanks, i appreciate you getting back to me!

[@JonnyButler]

@@BradshawJoinery Nope, entering the code 6141G17 at checkout still produces " ! The promotional code you entered is not valid."

[@mrnormski9005]

Really enjoyed this video, I love the technical aspects of your jobs. Does using the second laser at 90° create a 3D aspect or am I overthinling it 😆

[@BradshawJoinery]

Not overthinking, it does indeed, its the same as turning the horizontal line on the 1st laser on, but makes measuring the space much more practical because the laser is now positioned out of the way and more central. Thankyou (im assuming your name is norm but may be way off the mark)

[@mrnormski9005]

Yeah Norm

[@JimBob-lz1gy]

Do you not use pinch stick, to measure extremities, or is this way easier, you find?

[@BradshawJoinery]

Hi Jim, this is easier as a pinch stick isnt referencing from a level playing field, only to an opposing surface. Once the technique is dialled in i can measure pretty quickly a room on first visit and not have to go back to take measurments to make the item.

[@robertfrost4086]

EDIT - OK so ignore my following original comments ... this has made me think and feeling like this could and should 'up my game' thanks :) Dude seriously - far too OCD - However I have to say whenever I pull a laser level out and say 'proper drawings' will be part of the quote ... I usually get the job... and that's half the work of any business. Getting the work. Helpful advice for some - but you really need to know how to allow for tolerances and check with a decent straight 'bubble level'. Thanks for the tips though they will. be helpful occasionally :)

[@BradshawJoinery]

Cheer Robert, Nowt OCD about it. I can measure up a room like that in half hour, and make whatever i want and know itll fit everytime, and also know when i come to install, exactly what to do and where. The half hour spent "messing about with lasers" is saved tenfold sometimes. Give it a try, youll get quicker with time and then never go back.

[@vitovavallo2053]

Can’t find the web site for the laser

[@BradshawJoinery]

shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=1738078&u=3293508&m=108280&urllink=www%2Ehuepar%2Ecom%2Fen%2Dgb%2Fproducts%2Fhuepar%2D6141g&afftrack=

[@monkeysausageclub]

That code doesn't work because here in the UK they are already running a promo with 15% off.

[@BradshawJoinery]

Hi matey I messaged them and they reinstated the code. £91.30

[@vitovavallo2053]

What is the name of the green laser?

[@BradshawJoinery]

shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=1738078&u=3293508&m=108280&urllink=www%2Ehuepar%2Ecom%2Fen%2Dgb%2Fproducts%2Fhuepar%2D6141g&afftrack= Huepar 6141g

[@sunnydays1238]

Anyone know if the voucher still works. I tried and said not valid

[@BradshawJoinery]

I will ask them👍 theyight have seen me use it and cancelled it realising it wasn't still meant to work.. 🤣

[@BradshawJoinery]

Hi matey I messaged them and they reinstated the code. £91.30

[@jamescraig-brown]

@@BradshawJoinery That was quick! "The promotional code you entered is not valid."

[@BradshawJoinery]

Still? It worked for me when I tried earlier 🤦 It only makes it about £10 cheaper. I'd buy one while there is still stock if I'm honest. They said there arent loads!

[@Pete.Ty1]

👍👍👍

[@BradshawJoinery]

Cheers Pete

[@fizzyfeetsmith2131]

Price of the cheap laser has nearly doubled in price.

[@BradshawJoinery]

Has it? On amazon yes, but on their website with discount code its under£100. I paid £1000 for the hilti, canny really complain. If your gonna get one, id do so asap, as there are very few left and long wait for new shipments

[@nelsbhoy]

£20 water level is the perfect data point to work from.Old school is best.

[@BradshawJoinery]

I agree, and have used a water level before, but it's no good for the vertical measuring, it's also slow and doesn't give you an infinite reference to work from. The laser really is unbeatable for this job.

[@daverowe4566]

I just got one today using code NY2022, £84, including postage.

[@BradshawJoinery]

Nice one Dave. You were lucky, they sold out pretty much instantly.