Meat eater trolls vegan activist, this is what happened next...

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Joey Carbstrong

Joey Carbstrong

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@JoeyCarbstrong
@JoeyCarbstrong 4 жыл бұрын
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@phatvegan1691
@phatvegan1691 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joey
@m0nke13
@m0nke13 4 жыл бұрын
How healthy and natural is eating raw rotten flesh?
@Neoryel
@Neoryel 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Joey, do you have a link to a PDF version of the leaflet you're giving to people ? Cheers
@mmmmmmmmmmm111
@mmmmmmmmmmm111 4 жыл бұрын
veganmuslims.com/muslims-should-stop-eating-animals I noticed you're not very good at arguing with muslims because they just keep circling around. I'm Muslim myself and it was hard but this article explains it really well in an Islam centered way. I hope it helps you argue with these nuts in the future.
@TheSkitzo213
@TheSkitzo213 4 жыл бұрын
Do you carry a bottle of Advil with you for conversations like this?
@codymadden7244
@codymadden7244 4 жыл бұрын
How can people function day to day with such moronic logic?
@fearofaveganplanet8513
@fearofaveganplanet8513 4 жыл бұрын
They don't use this moronic logic in their day to day. They bring it out of the bag especially for veganism and then put it away again.
@codymadden7244
@codymadden7244 4 жыл бұрын
@@fearofaveganplanet8513 true. I remember using similarly stupid arguments before I was educated about veganism.
@thaconnected1ne
@thaconnected1ne 4 жыл бұрын
They function by " eating whats there" , and if he truely dosent eat any vegetables😆 i fear for his health
@derbykirby3627
@derbykirby3627 4 жыл бұрын
I find eating meat, fish, and chicken help.
@thaconnected1ne
@thaconnected1ne 4 жыл бұрын
@@derbykirby3627 help what exactly? Your craving for dead animals
@NM_Nate
@NM_Nate 4 жыл бұрын
"Do you think there is a difference between me killing a human being and me killing a tomato?" "No" 😂😂
@sia1036
@sia1036 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@80slimshadys
@80slimshadys 4 жыл бұрын
Joey: *You sunk my battleship*
@hayking903
@hayking903 4 жыл бұрын
His statement was both hilariously ridiculous and quite terrifying tbh. I wouldn't want to be locked in a room with him if he really only values my life as well as everyone else's life as much as he values a tomato. That's really scary.
@80slimshadys
@80slimshadys 4 жыл бұрын
@@hayking903 Better hope he doesn't run out of tomatoes when we are at his house for dinner or it's us in the spaghetti !!
@hayking903
@hayking903 4 жыл бұрын
@@80slimshadys ahhhh
@soulgrown42020
@soulgrown42020 4 жыл бұрын
"How do you believe in science, what is science?" ends any credibility for his argument
@michaeld4861
@michaeld4861 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly I feel like this is the norm nowadays.... So many people are like science doesn't exist because then i'd have to stop eating meat and start caring about the environment and remember that the world isn't flat. lol
@olethea8740
@olethea8740 4 жыл бұрын
I think maybe he means that also in science, there are studies with a personal agenda behind it. Because there is money involved, sometimes the science is not trustworthy. Not saying that I dont believe in science, but I think this is what he means.
@soulgrown42020
@soulgrown42020 4 жыл бұрын
@@olethea8740 This is your stance, that man was speaking irrationally, and shifted blame as a scapegoat to the topic at hand. I digress, that's a whole other topic. Lol
@someguy2135
@someguy2135 4 жыл бұрын
That is why it's hard to debate a "person of faith."
@someguy2135
@someguy2135 4 жыл бұрын
@@olethea8740 I figured he meant that he trusts his religion more than science.
@maartenpsion9036
@maartenpsion9036 4 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Dahmer would be winning the courtcases with this guy being the judge..
@justme92able
@justme92able 4 жыл бұрын
It's written!
@maartenpsion9036
@maartenpsion9036 4 жыл бұрын
@shaneboxhall He is your friendly neighbour
@maartenpsion9036
@maartenpsion9036 4 жыл бұрын
@shaneboxhall It's because I am a very intelligent guy.
@Human_Herbivore
@Human_Herbivore 4 жыл бұрын
Plant life activism grows in direct proportion to resisting veganism.
@Feeshgmod
@Feeshgmod 4 жыл бұрын
@shaneboxhall child
@aynakoitzjose
@aynakoitzjose 4 жыл бұрын
@shaneboxhall I will join your plant liberation movement.
@aynakoitzjose
@aynakoitzjose 4 жыл бұрын
@shaneboxhall definitely. We can start with the Amazon forest that the animal agriculture is frequently burning down to create space for so they can continually exploit and abuse animals on a yearly basis. It is one of the leading causes of deforestation and environmental damage to the world. Poor plants =( such a waste of resource.
@dannyHighfruit
@dannyHighfruit 4 жыл бұрын
@shaneboxhall we sure are bud. plants don't have emotions and we need to eat to survive. meat on the other hand is eaten too satisfy addictions and we have no need for it at all. we tortured, rape and kill animals for nothing more than the taste of their flesh and we're paying for it collectively
@dannyHighfruit
@dannyHighfruit 4 жыл бұрын
@shaneboxhallis it not torture to be kept confined to one room your whole life side by side so tightly packed one can hardly move, surrounded by shit? is it not rape to forcibly impregnate a cow then take her baby away from her so we get her milk? humane slaughter is an oxymoron, it does not exist
@sO_RoNerY
@sO_RoNerY 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is giving me a damn headache.
@Denkono
@Denkono 4 жыл бұрын
This guy loves to pivot from topic to topic then gets caught contradicting his own claims
@Stevenlyons777
@Stevenlyons777 4 жыл бұрын
Facts
@Scorpy666
@Scorpy666 4 жыл бұрын
Joey you mean
@CicoinTokyo777
@CicoinTokyo777 4 жыл бұрын
Basically all stupid meat eater do that
@CicoinTokyo777
@CicoinTokyo777 4 жыл бұрын
@@Scorpy666 no Joey is a god
@Scorpy666
@Scorpy666 4 жыл бұрын
@@CicoinTokyo777 he's a puny vegan
@poollofindro5886
@poollofindro5886 4 жыл бұрын
He thinks there is no difference killing a human and killing a tomato 😂😂😂
@piratesmileprod6533
@piratesmileprod6533 4 жыл бұрын
for an atheist, the claim is true
@poollofindro5886
@poollofindro5886 4 жыл бұрын
@@piratesmileprod6533 nope. That guy is a Muslim and he thinks killing a human is the same as killing a tomato
@mildredhubble6848
@mildredhubble6848 4 жыл бұрын
They’re both vegetables.
@Bigma6400
@Bigma6400 4 жыл бұрын
@@forty1thousand Animals feel pain. But I don’t care, i enjoy my fucking meat
@dantezefanyaaryasulang9642
@dantezefanyaaryasulang9642 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bigma6400 same
@GDeNofa
@GDeNofa 4 жыл бұрын
I was told that veganism is like a religion... what? I don’t worship animals. I value their lives.
@Denkono
@Denkono 4 жыл бұрын
Carnist: "But valuing their lives IS worship" (REEEEEEEe) Vegan response: "Since many people value animal lives (especially those of humans), therefore they are religious...however they still discriminate to whom they value"
@mehakbharti6210
@mehakbharti6210 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@suncentury7020
@suncentury7020 4 жыл бұрын
@@DenkonoDo you eat Animals? People should not copy word salads,All word salads do is intentionally dodge the issue.Are you adding to their torture by eating them?
@Denkono
@Denkono 4 жыл бұрын
@@suncentury7020 I do not, do you?
@suncentury7020
@suncentury7020 4 жыл бұрын
@@Denkono I do not eat Animals. The meat and dairy industry love to drag the word vegan around their rodeo of torture.
@nottodaytay5858
@nottodaytay5858 4 жыл бұрын
This man literally just said "tables might be sentient tho" as a way to try & justify animal abuse.... I-
@nottodaytay5858
@nottodaytay5858 4 жыл бұрын
@shaneboxhall Nonvegans kill more plants than vegans. Think plants are sentient & have brains? Go vegan.
@sukisukidaisuki128
@sukisukidaisuki128 4 жыл бұрын
@shaneboxhall stop trolling ur not gonna proof anything with your moronic jokes
@ND-gb3dd
@ND-gb3dd 4 жыл бұрын
@shaneboxhall good Lord
@vickysaitou4170
@vickysaitou4170 4 жыл бұрын
No one can win an argument against you. You’re awesome, Joey.
@dantezefanyaaryasulang9642
@dantezefanyaaryasulang9642 3 жыл бұрын
the thing is even if he wins an argument they will still be a carnist
@MetalizedButt
@MetalizedButt 3 жыл бұрын
You’re so easily impressed it’s sad. Being prepared with all the statistics and sources before debating a passerby civilian, chances are you’re gonna win.
@Dylan-pt6uz
@Dylan-pt6uz 2 жыл бұрын
Some may say that his head is up in his own ass😂
@TheAndyVegan
@TheAndyVegan 4 жыл бұрын
Meat eaters are willing to say things like “I don’t know if this table is suffering” just for the sake of being immorally consistent. I think that’s highly cowardice. Love you Joey!
@thompson8354
@thompson8354 4 жыл бұрын
Vegans are willing to ignore the fact that animals eat other animals and lots would kill humans if given the chance. Especially young children who cant defend themselves. Some animals even hunt for fun, like cats? Vegans will say its NATURAL. Also if humans can survive off SUPPLEMENTS for meat and milk, then why aren't cant meat eating animals do the SAME?
@TheAndyVegan
@TheAndyVegan 4 жыл бұрын
@@thompson8354 “Vegans will ignore the fact that animals eat animals” -- No. Me, like many other vegans, are well aware that we share this planet with carnivorous animals. I don’t know why your vegan friends don’t know about this but my vegan friends don’t deny this fact. The problem isn’t “vegans don’t know animals kill animals. The problem is humans aren’t cats, tiger, and bears. We aren’t carnivores. We can survive without torturing animals. That’s the point we’re trying to drive home. Tigers eat animals out of necessity. Humans don’t need to eat animals. Our choice to harm is just that - A CHOICE. Whether the choice is negative or positive is the main concern here.
@thompson8354
@thompson8354 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheAndyVegan cat litterlay hunt for fun. And you should look into child labor worldwide youd be surprised that farming has the highest % of child labor.. So maybe not eating meat helps animals but the more people who demand plant based and things like "nut" milk alternatives will only increase the amount of children working to supply the demand... Being vegan isn't cruelty free.
@TheAndyVegan
@TheAndyVegan 4 жыл бұрын
@@thompson8354 I guess you have to tell yourself that veganism isn't cruelty-free to feel better about *directly* harming animals. Just so you know, Veganism don't make perfection claims. Actually, veganism states that we should be making cruelty-free choices to the degree that is practical and possible. So this whole conversation about child labor is just rubbish because I don't pay to eat children. I pay to eat fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, grains, herbs and spices.
@Bigma6400
@Bigma6400 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine having vegan in ur yt name.... bro y’all vegans are just braindead assholes
@jada17
@jada17 4 жыл бұрын
So stupid. He says that killing a human is the same as killing a tomato but killing an animal is different and doesn't matter.🙆
@jeffreylebowski4927
@jeffreylebowski4927 4 жыл бұрын
It makes sense for him cause the tomato has more brain and intelligence than he does.
@jada17
@jada17 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreylebowski4927 haha true🙌
@fearofaveganplanet8513
@fearofaveganplanet8513 4 жыл бұрын
The difference is that saying the animal matters won't win him the argument.
@sO_RoNerY
@sO_RoNerY 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t question stupidity.
@justme92able
@justme92able 4 жыл бұрын
It's his dog and it's written!!! It's written! Written!
@Masilya111
@Masilya111 4 жыл бұрын
Excuses, the movie.
@youtubeplanting
@youtubeplanting 4 жыл бұрын
yep
@Zoonofski
@Zoonofski 2 жыл бұрын
My man is an example to all carrot activists everywhere, standing up for the helpless vegetable victims!
@ilovecats5807
@ilovecats5807 4 жыл бұрын
Imma have to head out...... I’m losing brain cells watching this
@Delusionul
@Delusionul 4 жыл бұрын
“If it’s written, it’s gonna happen.” My mans been watching too much Death Note.
@vargvikernes4859
@vargvikernes4859 4 жыл бұрын
🤣
@desmond_craddock_5226
@desmond_craddock_5226 3 жыл бұрын
That literally comes from the Quran
@chloeconstantine1853
@chloeconstantine1853 4 жыл бұрын
I've watched every JC video for over 3 years(then I watched back) but I honestly can't cope with this one...there's more chance plants are sentient than him.
@animalsarebeautifulpeople3094
@animalsarebeautifulpeople3094 4 жыл бұрын
in his case eating vegetables might be committing cannibalism
@dorian2112
@dorian2112 4 жыл бұрын
huh?
@chloeconstantine1853
@chloeconstantine1853 4 жыл бұрын
@@dorian2112 what bit do you not compute like everyone else?
@tinyjungle_
@tinyjungle_ 4 жыл бұрын
"It's a choice" Same dude next sentence: "It was written" Religion doesn't have a monopoly on the wilfully ignorant, but it certainly requires them.
@justme92able
@justme92able 4 жыл бұрын
It's written it is what it is
@Default-gf4zf
@Default-gf4zf 3 жыл бұрын
Technically that works, choice and freedom exists and is a living right, but all the outcomes and consequences are written, we just choose the script, each one is not pre determined to happen but made for us to choose and decide, they are part of what gives life meaning, that give us free will, so being written does not mean something was gonna be that way at the end of the day that's how it was and bla bla bla all that crap idiots believe but it's that the possibilities are written, possibility and chance, free will and choice, and I believe there are limits to each moment in time but the further we look forward in time and the more things we take into account then the most possibilities both in nature, chance and choice, but everything is "written" as these people put it, this is what we have but we are in control of it and some of it will be out of our reach sure like for example if it rains, we can't affect everything and it could be because of where we are and what we're doing, some things we can have an affect on if we're in the right place at the right time
@darrinhedges4678
@darrinhedges4678 4 жыл бұрын
It's written. It's choice. Lmao, this guy doesn't even know what he's trying to say half the time.
@katinkaaa2951
@katinkaaa2951 4 жыл бұрын
"he was gonna sacrifice his son, but then his son turned into a sheep" what haha, oh my. It's crazy how they're so willing to follow everything their religion tells them to do without even knowing what their religion says.
@mehakbharti6210
@mehakbharti6210 4 жыл бұрын
That's why I'm an atheist. I'm a vegan because I researched a lot and saw/read a lot of evidences.
@SNinjaQK
@SNinjaQK 4 жыл бұрын
God swapped Abraham's son with a sheep
@katinkaaa2951
@katinkaaa2951 4 жыл бұрын
@@SNinjaQK No. Abraham ends up sacrificing a ram instead. God tells him not to do it now that he know he would, and he looks up sees a ram and sacrifices that instead. God did not switch a sheep with Isaac without Abraham’s knowledge or turned Isaac into a sheep like this lad said.
@SNinjaQK
@SNinjaQK 4 жыл бұрын
@Sachin I don't believe in God
@ViciusRse
@ViciusRse 4 жыл бұрын
Well, it *is* what our religion says, do you have an issue with what others believe? Stop bad mouthing us.
@philpriestley9693
@philpriestley9693 4 жыл бұрын
Kills somebody, goes to court, says "it was written " and the judge says off course, you are free and not guilty. It's written 😇
@manofthenooch9910
@manofthenooch9910 4 жыл бұрын
People like this are so hard to sway. They're so entitled and irresponsible they're clueless about their own fallacies. As long as it aligns with their own biases. Believing in fate is helpful for hardships of life, but I swear people like this who believe so much in fate and attribute every single event of life to fate are delusional it's mental how they don't see it.
@Ruebzzz
@Ruebzzz 4 жыл бұрын
So true
@Lander12
@Lander12 4 жыл бұрын
Killing a human and "killing" a tomato is the same thing.. This guy is going places.
@hikinghermit
@hikinghermit 3 жыл бұрын
The stupidity behind the argument "vegans kill plants" is, that eating animal products kills way more plants than a full vegan diet due to deforestation, feeding etc. So if one cares about plants lives, one should not eat animal products.
@z_rxo
@z_rxo 3 жыл бұрын
@@hikinghermit I'm tired of hearing these same washed up arguments go preach that to less than one percent of the population I guarantee you won't convince the other 99%.
@monkeybounceereborn4909
@monkeybounceereborn4909 2 жыл бұрын
@@z_rxo youre hearing the same arguments because they are true.
@lat6144
@lat6144 2 жыл бұрын
@@hikinghermit agree 💯
@GDeNofa
@GDeNofa 4 жыл бұрын
For the love of God, carnists... a tulip does not have the awareness of a hummingbird. 🤦🏼‍♀️
@justme92able
@justme92able 4 жыл бұрын
@12345 12345 Did God command ppl to kill?
@torashi.
@torashi. 4 жыл бұрын
@12345 12345 the same god that endorses slavery?
@GDeNofa
@GDeNofa 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 I give up with these imbeciles. And a tomato isn’t a ladybug.
@GDeNofa
@GDeNofa 4 жыл бұрын
@shaneboxhall and so are the meat headed trolls that post on Joey’s videos 😂
@torashi.
@torashi. 4 жыл бұрын
@12345 12345 which god are you talking about?
@80slimshadys
@80slimshadys 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't look you in the eyes because he knew he was lying the whole time. He didn't believe a word he said. He was just making up something to sound consistent at every turn regardless of whether it just contradicted his previous statement. He didn't take time to listen and process your question and immediately dodged and answered with a unrelated question. Dunning Kruger effect at work
@melysmelys2622
@melysmelys2622 4 жыл бұрын
His religion's teachings were unravelling as he started seeing the truth.
@80slimshadys
@80slimshadys 4 жыл бұрын
@@melysmelys2622 haha yea. He couldnt take it since religion is the death of reason.
@aryaveerg69
@aryaveerg69 4 жыл бұрын
I am 8 minutes into this video and wow this meat eater really doesn’t know what he is saying..good job joey
@justme92able
@justme92able 4 жыл бұрын
Joey using these stupidity to entertain the public lol, he's become so patient to even turn it into an entertainment lol
@Jondread
@Jondread 4 жыл бұрын
Aye this is where I got to and he's literally backed into a corner lol, you can see his brain working overtime trying so hard to justify and come up with excuses. The look in his eyes says everything. This will make the man think, and the best thing you can do is make people think about going vegan. Because thinking about it eventually leads to doing it. Keep up the good work, glad I found your channel. 🙏
@AvashMonajemi
@AvashMonajemi 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jondread he was smart actually. it's joey that is pushing his ideology on others and is ruining people's health!
@Jondread
@Jondread 4 жыл бұрын
@@AvashMonajemi are you actually mental? :rofl:
@lukeh8394
@lukeh8394 4 жыл бұрын
Had to stop and check the comments, also at the 8min mark lol
@ddpwe5269
@ddpwe5269 4 жыл бұрын
If it's written, doesn't that mean he blindly believes his religion? Hypocrite.
@pigstonwidget
@pigstonwidget 4 жыл бұрын
you did really well. at one point he softened, and you mirrored it, but then his energy spiralled up. always good to listen to you as helps with conversations we have.
@GOLDman4856
@GOLDman4856 4 жыл бұрын
Killing tomato same as killing human I'm dead
@shaun5686
@shaun5686 4 жыл бұрын
The way that guy justifies things is SCARY. Well done trying though Joey.
@NISCHAYBSB
@NISCHAYBSB 4 жыл бұрын
There's an asylum out there looking for an escaped inmate
@driscollsilver595
@driscollsilver595 4 жыл бұрын
Are you a vegan making jokes about mental health?
@Peacemaker-96
@Peacemaker-96 4 жыл бұрын
@@driscollsilver595 gonna cry?
@driscollsilver595
@driscollsilver595 4 жыл бұрын
@Greenery I'm vegan, I don't like asylum jokes, the way I see it, people who make jokes about it should be taught a lesson they won't forget, you think you can be a vegan and make jokes about the mental health of humans while talking your shit about how you help animals?
@driscollsilver595
@driscollsilver595 4 жыл бұрын
@@Peacemaker-96 yes, after i watched your shit videos i cant hold back the tears
@Peacemaker-96
@Peacemaker-96 4 жыл бұрын
@@driscollsilver595 your fault. I didn't told you to watch my shit, moreover I thought you were a non vegan troll. My apologies ✌️☮️
@Me-pu1kp
@Me-pu1kp 4 жыл бұрын
This is such a hard convo to listen to😂 like this guy contradicts himself every sentence and I never really know what he's trying to say... I guess it's just ignorance
@Harriemes
@Harriemes 4 жыл бұрын
It's genetic in the Middle-East.
@roku3216
@roku3216 4 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, I used to put squirming worms on hooks, and none of them squirmed nearly as much as "meat-lovers" squirm to justify their choice to support animal cruelty.
@roku3216
@roku3216 4 жыл бұрын
Lol U funny
@roku3216
@roku3216 4 жыл бұрын
@shaneboxhall All that screaming and trying to get away is just the animals getting some last minute exercise to build more muscle for us to enjoy. It's very thoughtful of them.
@roku3216
@roku3216 4 жыл бұрын
@shaneboxhall I thought you were joking and being ironic. Actually Dominion is pretty much spot on. I grew up on and around livestock farming and was a 4-H leader, and the "right" way still involves all kinds of things we would call cruel if it happened to a dog, and it's just as cruel for the calf or turkey to go through all of it. Conditions of slaughter factories have gotten worse with the relaxation of regulations on speed of processing.
@roku3216
@roku3216 4 жыл бұрын
@shaneboxhall I think the best treatment for the animals is to stop using their bodies for a fleeting taste and digesting them into poop, when it's super easy to consume tasty foods that don't use them at all.
@roku3216
@roku3216 4 жыл бұрын
@shaneboxhall It's far easier to pick something else for lunch than to jump through so many hoops for welfarism, and even then, there is no way to kill a young healthy animal 'nicely' any more than if we did it to dogs. We don't need dead animal muscle for health either. 6 years vegan and doing great, and there are many more who've done it longer than me by decades and enjoy great health. You need the macros (carbs, oils, proteins) and the essential vitamins and minerals, fiber, etc, and all of that is in plants and common grocery foods made of plants. Best of all no one has to give up familiar tastes and textures if that's their thing.
@Ryan-0089
@Ryan-0089 4 жыл бұрын
This one is insane
@angelavasiliu3968
@angelavasiliu3968 4 жыл бұрын
Joey, you have so much patience with all these non-sensical and illogical arguments thrown at you! Amazing work!
@fearofaveganplanet8513
@fearofaveganplanet8513 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, what an excuse-cannon! Didn't sound like he believed any of his own excuses.
@fearofaveganplanet8513
@fearofaveganplanet8513 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacmanmcgavin7034 Yeah, but I and my fellow cultists don't have excuses; we have facts, science and sound logical argumentation. Subtle distinction, I know, but it's surprising what a difference that makes.
@f.s.2843
@f.s.2843 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacmanmcgavin7034 No, veganism is a logical moral position that is subjective where you way your taste preferences and personal convenience against the well-being and lifes of animals used for food. You can disagree here, but calling it a cult makes you look ignorant and stupid.
@f.s.2843
@f.s.2843 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacmanmcgavin7034 So you argue because it’s a moral standpoint not shared by the majority it’s a cult? I looked up the definition of the word cult. First google hit gives two definitions. The second one is basically yours: „a person or thing that is popular or fashionable among a particular group or section of society.“ Fine, by this definition I’m ok with calling it a cult. I see nothing wrong here. But I reject the term cult because it’s used as a way to ridicule veganism. It’s not beneficial for any kind of discussion. Most people understand the term cult like the first definition by Google as “a system of religious veneration and devotion directed towards a particular figure or object.” And that’s absolutely wrong. Veganism has nothing to do with religion, deities, worshipping and believing.
@fearofaveganplanet8513
@fearofaveganplanet8513 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacmanmcgavin7034 Ah yes, I remember you think facts are ridiculous.
@fearofaveganplanet8513
@fearofaveganplanet8513 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacmanmcgavin7034 And yet I've not seen you give any argument for why any of my facts are not factual. Just empty bluster.
@Nicky_Dore
@Nicky_Dore 4 жыл бұрын
I stopped listening when this guy saying killing tomato and human are the same thing. Like, cmon...
@misha3872
@misha3872 4 жыл бұрын
The people that find out you are vegan and say that they just ate meat or eat meat in front of you just to get a reaction are so childish
@9deering
@9deering 4 жыл бұрын
I think he actually ticked every box in the 'excuses not to be vegan' manual.
@justinmanning
@justinmanning 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Joey. Sincerely appreciate the last several months of increased production quality on your intro's.
@Crescentine
@Crescentine 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for continuing your activism during these tough times and taking proper safety measures. Your a great example of a youtuber, and a person from the moral side of things!!!
@MX-op7nf
@MX-op7nf 4 жыл бұрын
Going vegan was the best decision i ever made.
@helmsfamily1605
@helmsfamily1605 4 жыл бұрын
Make us your last
@barrackobunga4287
@barrackobunga4287 4 жыл бұрын
🥩?
@CicoinTokyo777
@CicoinTokyo777 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@CicoinTokyo777
@CicoinTokyo777 4 жыл бұрын
@@barrackobunga4287 so annoying stop
@szfulop1816
@szfulop1816 3 жыл бұрын
@@barrackobunga4287 Are you ok? Do you need help?
@zaktivist
@zaktivist 4 жыл бұрын
Great work joey 👍
@TheSubSquid
@TheSubSquid 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I think it was written that this guy would keep his head in the sand
@0jeej0
@0jeej0 8 ай бұрын
lmao
@veganpharaoh
@veganpharaoh 4 жыл бұрын
*Murder trial* Meat eater troll: Your honor, I did it because it was written this way. Judge: Sorry to bother you sir, you're free to go. You go on and have a nice day!
@rebeccamcgaw175
@rebeccamcgaw175 4 жыл бұрын
You go on and have a nice day, lmfao, remind me of vg video where he's the police officer, and people's dumb excuses for eating meat. 🙌🤣
@veganpharaoh
@veganpharaoh 4 жыл бұрын
@@rebeccamcgaw175 Haha my comment is a reference to that actually!
@jamesmacduff4384
@jamesmacduff4384 4 жыл бұрын
“What is science?”
@fearofaveganplanet8513
@fearofaveganplanet8513 4 жыл бұрын
Why "blindly trust" science when we have religious texts that "are written"?
@shin-ishikiri-no
@shin-ishikiri-no 4 жыл бұрын
@@fearofaveganplanet8513 lmao
@9deering
@9deering 4 жыл бұрын
Once the conversation gets to the point where someone states that there is no difference between a human and a tomato, their credibility just died.
@kattihatt
@kattihatt 4 жыл бұрын
Omg, how can you be so certain and stubborn on a topic which you dont know anything about. Never enter a discussion with a religious person.
@prepsss8096
@prepsss8096 4 жыл бұрын
Because they are idiots.
@80slimshadys
@80slimshadys 4 жыл бұрын
''Religion is the death of reason'' -Tyrian Lannister
@sheriffphoto
@sheriffphoto 4 жыл бұрын
Religious folk are hopeless in reasoning. I know, from experience. Used to be one of them.
@Bunnyboy2018
@Bunnyboy2018 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao this man said killing is ethical? I would learn the definition of ethical buddy
@marialindgr1
@marialindgr1 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Joey, for not giving up and keep fighting
@victoriaphilippa7745
@victoriaphilippa7745 4 жыл бұрын
Oh gosh Joey every time you leave me in awe of your patience. I do AV on this street and I’ve had some motivational conversations but this was like a brick wall start with
@lisatran3646
@lisatran3646 4 жыл бұрын
The guy in the black mask is just contradicting himself in every way
@Kazuma-des
@Kazuma-des 4 жыл бұрын
I can't blindly believe in science, continues to believe in religion because of blind faith 🤦‍♂️
@establishedin1991
@establishedin1991 4 жыл бұрын
This lad is pulling out every excuse for his actions and choices out of thin air.
@trickyu7601
@trickyu7601 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is special
@yktvklk8022
@yktvklk8022 4 жыл бұрын
Trickyu He’s just ignorant
@itswrongtokillanimalsifyou2837
@itswrongtokillanimalsifyou2837 4 жыл бұрын
Extra™
@vargvikernes4859
@vargvikernes4859 4 жыл бұрын
You know why you wrote this comment ? Because it was written
@law5223
@law5223 4 жыл бұрын
He said what is science ffs 😂
@justme92able
@justme92able 4 жыл бұрын
He's way special 😂
@frizzelfrazzel99
@frizzelfrazzel99 4 жыл бұрын
17 years with no animal body parts and I'm still going! Oh wait I'm a ghost!! 👻
@RikuAojama
@RikuAojama 4 жыл бұрын
I'm always impressed with your intelligence and the way you are arguing and using their logic to out-argument themselves. You really are an inspiration, Joey. Thank you for your work!
@pomodorino1766
@pomodorino1766 4 жыл бұрын
I think even with tough clients like this one it is still a seed planted. Good work Bro'
@FourBetween
@FourBetween 4 жыл бұрын
If I have to hear one more person say 'but what about plants, plants feel pain' ...... no words. I mean this guy even said 'just because we don't see the plants blood coming out' come on man.
@FourBetween
@FourBetween 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanoxlade4252 Maybe that's their tears?
@coraltitan6225
@coraltitan6225 4 жыл бұрын
16:46 He's saying that basically if things happen the way they do, so they should happen- and basically there's an inability to change it. 2 seconds before he said that one shouldn't follow religion blindly, and 4 seconds before that he said that he's against animal cruelty. I'm following....
@sheila7909
@sheila7909 4 жыл бұрын
That guy hasn't a clue 🙄🙄 halal is a absolute Joke, the worse way Ever 🌱🌿
@ViciusRse
@ViciusRse 4 жыл бұрын
Yah, how about NOT DISRESPECT RELIGIONS?! IT CAN BE OFFENDING TO PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW IT YOU KNOW. JUST LIKE I CAN'T SWAY YOU TO EAT MEAT YOU CAN'T SWAY PEOPLE TO BE VEGAN!!!
@ViciusRse
@ViciusRse 4 жыл бұрын
@ameerah davis And can you tell me what's not good about it?
@ViciusRse
@ViciusRse 4 жыл бұрын
Joey keeps asking the difference between a dog and a chicken when killed, only some of Asia eats dogs, Islam says it's Haram to eat dogs. Question: So, why isn't it haram to eat chickens? Answer: Because dogs serve a purpose, they help humans in many ways. Wheras pigs lie around in their own filth. Horses were and are used for transportation. Once, our Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) was heading for war against the people who have tortured and opressed muslims for years, he had an army of around 3 thousand soldiers or more, and on his way there were 3 dogs on the path. A mom, and 2 puppies, he then changed the *whole course of the army and took another path in order to not disturb the dogs and even kept 2 soldiers there to protect them.* Islam is a religion of peace, trust me, but nowadays muslims have forgotten what they should be doing 💔
@ViciusRse
@ViciusRse 4 жыл бұрын
@ameerah davis Fine, it seems you'll stay on your point no matter what, I don't want to start a useless argument, you believe what you believe, but it's just as Islam is my religion I got offended that more than half the comments are bad shaming Islam... Can you imagine how it is to have hundreds of people telling you your religion is false, saying your traditons are crazy, saying the miracles you believed happened are pathetic?
@ViciusRse
@ViciusRse 4 жыл бұрын
@ameerah davis Uhuh, and I'm gonna continue eating meat because this channel, which I have been subscribed for months now, has showed me that when the person interrogated is Muslim, everything suddenly switches to Islam being fake.
@sreesowmyatumuluru5932
@sreesowmyatumuluru5932 4 жыл бұрын
Joey: do you think this table is suffering? Man: No Joey: How did you know? Man: It could be, we don’t know. (😂) Plan ignorance.
@AvashMonajemi
@AvashMonajemi 4 жыл бұрын
he's being open minded. it might be suffering. we don't know. stop abusing plants!
@ND-gb3dd
@ND-gb3dd 4 жыл бұрын
@@AvashMonajemi stop abusing animals, then we’ll talk
@AvashMonajemi
@AvashMonajemi 4 жыл бұрын
@@ND-gb3dd no. we talk beforehand, so that you can convince me to stop killing them if you have enough evidence. Your method is a typical way vegans use to stick to their mindset and not be open minded to other lifestyle habits even if it means yeah chopping animals heads off!
@ND-gb3dd
@ND-gb3dd 4 жыл бұрын
@@AvashMonajemi animals have feelings, have families, and have a will to live, just like us. Humans thrive on vegan lifestyles. I wasn’t trying to offend you, I am just trying to convey to you that if you care about plants, you should care about animals, too, because they actually have emotions.
@AvashMonajemi
@AvashMonajemi 4 жыл бұрын
@@ND-gb3dd humans do not thrive on vegan food. it's bad for humans. and are you Armenian? Armenians eat meat you should too
@om-boi
@om-boi 4 жыл бұрын
Joey I’m loving the recent content. You’re putting all that Patreon money to excellent use. You’re clearly working with a professional. The quality of these new videos are excellent and stylish.
@timothye7957
@timothye7957 4 жыл бұрын
*"you have to prove to me that a carrot is sentient."* As sad as it is that you actually have to say something like this during a conversation..... it was hilarious to hear out loud 😂
@careelite
@careelite 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! There are a lot of plant activists out there :D Great work Joey, as always!
@LichteDunkelheit
@LichteDunkelheit 4 жыл бұрын
"It's written though." Always new things to learn.
@HerbEVore-ti6hs
@HerbEVore-ti6hs 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, talking to that dude would really stimutale me to smack him after a minute. Respect to Joey to keep that calm.
@dantezefanyaaryasulang9642
@dantezefanyaaryasulang9642 3 жыл бұрын
Actually i would steal his burger and eat it
@1980kebab
@1980kebab 4 жыл бұрын
I can't see this guy going vegan anytime soon. I actually feel genuine sadness for people like him. If only they knew, if only they could make the connection and recognise not only the environmental impact, but also the direct effect it has on their own bodies and their energy. I will never give up hope and I'm always pleased to see that Joey will always keep up a good fight, regardless of how futile it seems.
@sciencesundaymonday5657
@sciencesundaymonday5657 4 жыл бұрын
Joey is taking the editing to new heights; I love you so much brother!
@MatiasHamreSveen
@MatiasHamreSveen 3 жыл бұрын
I lost brain cells listening to this guy. Good job, Joey!
@johanndjents5890
@johanndjents5890 4 жыл бұрын
Damn that's hard to watch. Thanks for your work 👌🏼
@olhi8445
@olhi8445 4 жыл бұрын
You finally found the kind of person I try to argue with
@ivarbaratheon264
@ivarbaratheon264 4 жыл бұрын
Killing a person and tomato is the same thing according to this guy
@shin-ishikiri-no
@shin-ishikiri-no 4 жыл бұрын
Tomato are fruit. The whole point of fruit is to be made appealing to animals so they can be eaten and spread around with fertile dung to grow in. lol
@J_46
@J_46 3 жыл бұрын
14:07 Actually Joey, the red colour of the tomatoes is a decoy for other animals to be eaten. And then, they will spread the seeds of the tomatoes faster and easier in the faeces of these animals. So we can say in biological terms, that a tomatoe want to be eaten.
@juliewake4585
@juliewake4585 3 жыл бұрын
There are many fruits and vegetables that want to be eaten, and have their seeds spread. It’s pretty obvious isn’t it?
@vladnychyk4900
@vladnychyk4900 3 жыл бұрын
All that wasted time trying to convince a MEAT EATER 🤣🤣🤣
@bosuli6289
@bosuli6289 4 жыл бұрын
I have seen movies about planting communicating with each other, but they have no spine and therefore can not feel pain. The guy hated vegetables so much, so he risks getting the same scurvy that many sailors died of in the old days.
@aloha2orangeneko
@aloha2orangeneko 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ - a carrots rights “activist”.
@miguelmackay4851
@miguelmackay4851 4 жыл бұрын
this "muslim" guy has subjective morality, he is not even religious and still uses religion as an excuse
@ffs6969f4u
@ffs6969f4u 4 жыл бұрын
Conversations like these always devolve on the side of the omnivore in the same exact way. They end with "plants are alive too" and "I just don't care." Very predictable at this point.
@practicalpisces
@practicalpisces 4 жыл бұрын
Woah, woah, woah! Slow down, dude. I didn't know that there was a mental gymnastics tournament in town. You must be going for the gold! 🎖 I'm too much of a smart aleck to have conversations like this. 😆
@smellyelle8422
@smellyelle8422 4 жыл бұрын
I remember a conversation with an omni once where they were comparing a carrot to a pig. When they said vegetables bleed, I looked at them puzzled and asked, 'bleed???' 'Yeah, they have JUICE!' came the reply. SMH
@dantezefanyaaryasulang9642
@dantezefanyaaryasulang9642 3 жыл бұрын
oranges lol
@jayaz9113
@jayaz9113 4 жыл бұрын
That's a really good point to ask muslims " are you required to eat meat to be a muslim ?" --- NOPE. Obviously.
@sabac6007
@sabac6007 2 жыл бұрын
So frustrating to watch this guy! How can he not comprehend the basic .. just because we can do something doesn’t mean we should, especially a choice that will cause immense suffering and continue to support such inhumane animal cruelty. Surely any decent human being would want to do what they can to prevent this, we have alternatives after all so no longer essential to survival.
@zodd67
@zodd67 4 жыл бұрын
It's written tho
@DecvsJapan
@DecvsJapan 4 жыл бұрын
I like when Joey says "If I stab your dog is that OK?" And the guy replies "It's written so yeh."
@lucymary7694
@lucymary7694 4 жыл бұрын
Well done Joey! All your videos are so entertaining and inspiring. This one was really well done! Loved it
@EarthtoRosita
@EarthtoRosita 4 жыл бұрын
is fascinating how low a human beings IQ drops when their selfish, gluttonous ways are being challenged.
@fearofaveganplanet8513
@fearofaveganplanet8513 4 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of reasoning with a heroin addict about how their fix won't be necessary today.
@nirojbajracharya3051
@nirojbajracharya3051 4 жыл бұрын
Its written.... Who is the writer??
@maxstarn3299
@maxstarn3299 4 жыл бұрын
THE AMOUNT THIS GUY WAS WILLING TO BEND HIS MORALS TO AVOID ADMITTING HE WAS WRONG
@tombradshaw1378
@tombradshaw1378 4 жыл бұрын
Alternate title: facts, reasoning and basic morals vs "it is written"
@WyattCayer
@WyattCayer 4 жыл бұрын
yep
@reachtrita
@reachtrita 4 жыл бұрын
“I got hope in people, I see the good in people, I just hope they make the good choice”- Joey. I feel the same. Thank you for keep working on the front to educate the public!
@housevibez8828
@housevibez8828 4 жыл бұрын
Dope video editing! Great quality lateley!
@VinnieRodriguez1188
@VinnieRodriguez1188 4 жыл бұрын
The kids got a point at 10:30. He said that how does he know the science is true about plants not feeling pain? Science tell us that milk is good for us because it’s funded and skewed by the dairy industry. I’ve been vegan for 6 years but the plant argument still gets me. But no reason for the guy to use it as an excuse to eat meat
@fifo7450
@fifo7450 4 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that you were the first comment that used their words kindly. I appreciate it. I'm muslim too and, yes I do eat meat most of the statements this man said was wrong but it was a mistake. Our god created animals for us as a gift. We can eat it if we desire. We are allowed to eat anything we want as long as it's halal. (clean) And if it's stated that it's forbidden we wouldn't eat meat. But it doesn't state it. It's a free will for anyone to eat what they want. Wether vegan or not. We all have the rights. And (if you're sensative to animals getting killed don't read on) if the meat is haram (not halal) we aren't allowed to eat it. Cause of the way it's killed. If it's killed brutaly and without saying Bismillah (In the name of Allah) it is not halal. We muslims sacrifice the animal in a non-harming way. The least pain possible. I get it if people object with it but I didn't want any hate towards my religion. Hoperully thie will change ur opinion on what you think! 😊❤
@hayking903
@hayking903 4 жыл бұрын
Great job Joey! Keep up the great work.
@avrilfarrell8671
@avrilfarrell8671 4 жыл бұрын
Why do people come out with 'you can't survive without eating animals'... when they are sat next to a vegan?
@coraltitan6225
@coraltitan6225 4 жыл бұрын
Joey, I feel like this form of activism is simply fantastic. If someone would have grabbed me in the streets and confront me with what I was doing I'd probably be vegan way before. I encourage every vegan to be an activist and to inform themselves with as much information about what animals go through and challenge those carnists, even the troll ones. Actually, the trolls are the ones that seek engagement more than the indifferent ones. Remember that the biggest problem of animals is not that they have enemies but that they are ignored.
@dantezefanyaaryasulang9642
@dantezefanyaaryasulang9642 3 жыл бұрын
I've been informed about the truth like how many times 10? I still like to eat meat. If you tell them to go vegan they have a 50% chance to not go vegan
@EXCELLENTpoo
@EXCELLENTpoo 4 жыл бұрын
This is like a deleted scene from Four Lions.
@highroadtohell
@highroadtohell 4 жыл бұрын
Well done, Joey! 😃
He tried to corner me in debate with this old trick
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