Tornado becomes available after jumping. Tornado did not become available after bobsled jumping (17:06). Ergo, bobsled jumping is not jumping.
@NerdUndStolzDarauf2 жыл бұрын
Ah, the most universal challenge run tactic! Gaslighting!
@ryanm.8720 Жыл бұрын
*Chase:* "The Sonic- the Sonic Heroes; their whole prerogative is just to convince everybody that they already did everything." (...) *Holly:* "Oh my god... Oh my god; they're the Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girlbosses!" - 'Sonic Destruction - Ep. 1 (AI-Generated Sonic Script)'
@nathany972 жыл бұрын
The fact that you learned how to TAS just to prove it was possible is pure dedication
@four-en-tee Жыл бұрын
I thought he did it by accident at first in a genuine run, then TAS'd it to make sure it was replicatable.
@VocalMabiMaple Жыл бұрын
@@four-en-tee he did, but when before he TAS'd it he didn't know how to TAS
@thewolfleader500 Жыл бұрын
I like how your entire strategy boils down to "This is impossible. Like, actually impo-WAIT A MINUTE"
@cashbrady40745 ай бұрын
true
@ShaimingLong Жыл бұрын
29:13 Just for your future reference, you're supposed to hold B on rails to go faster. Mashing it does accelerate you faster if you're going slow, but when you're as fast as mashing allows, just hold. It makes that final laser a complete non-issue.
@Swolegard Жыл бұрын
quickly swapping characters simultaneously as holding B makes it even faster
@Idk_1838 Жыл бұрын
@@Swolegard noted
@ShaimingLong Жыл бұрын
@@Swolegard I had no idea that was a thing. If I ever play Heroes again (which without a remaster/remake, isn't likely), I will be giving that a try!
@Whiteythereaper Жыл бұрын
@ShaimingLong it's the same with the special stages, the button flashes like it wants you to spam it, but holding it boosts you
@MasterSonicKnight Жыл бұрын
finally, after literal years, i got an explanation of how to make it work!
@jsels7772 жыл бұрын
This was a ton of fun to help route, but I'm genuinely surprised at how hard you kept pushing to complete the run even though I was ready to give up. This game's jank knows no bounds.
@Khalum Жыл бұрын
I used to play this game all the time as a kid, and I just learned today that lightspeed attack was a thing... I've never seen that prompt in my life and now I'm questioning everything.
@anothenblue2630 Жыл бұрын
I don't think it's ever needed in the game normally?
@keithbellic2629 Жыл бұрын
Wait until you learn that hard mode was a thing too
@Khalum Жыл бұрын
@@keithbellic2629 oh believe me, I know all about that and expert mode, from shadow.
@bpmotard1458 Жыл бұрын
Just discovered this video by accident, by I love how everything was made, the edits, the unexpected jokes, the "I failed, jk", all were executed perfectly, and I was so hooked to the video that 30m felt like just a few minutes. Thank you so much for the incredible content! Laughed quite a bunch!
@iluxa-4000 Жыл бұрын
This is *way* better quality than what the views would suggest. You deserve way more credit
@KinProductions Жыл бұрын
Honestly - Thoroughly enjoyed not just the effort you've put into this, but also the comedic touch. It was all really well put together and everything was flowing really well. I haven't enjoyed a video this much in a long time.
@JomoOval2 жыл бұрын
You can actually go way faster when going downhill on rails of you hold the action button instead of repeatedly pressing it, so the final rail segment in Final Fortress is actually easier than you might have expected
@PeterLawrenceYT Жыл бұрын
Yup, mashing the action button is only good for accelerating up to a certain point, to go over your top speed, just hold it down while going down hill.
@XenoWars Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it seems intended for this section as the laser shoots just above your head as you go down the sloped part for cool cinematic effect
@Poppipower Жыл бұрын
Here’s how to solve the bobsled dilemma. The characters clearly state that if Tails falls off, then the BOBSLED won’t be able to jump. You’re playing the challenge as Sonic, Tails and Knuckles, so it doesn’t matter what the bobsled does.
@mughyie8818 Жыл бұрын
Philosophical and long-winded take inbound: The title of the video is "can YOU beat sonic heroes without jumping." You, as the player, must beat sonic heroes without jumping. Anything you can directly control or play as counts as a proxy for you as the player. You are sonic, tails, and knuckles, but you are also the bobsled. Their success in this challenge is determined by you, so it's really not them playing the challenge metaphorically. You control the bobsled, and it's not jumping unless you press the button telling it to. if you must jump with it to pass the segment, the challenge is metaphorically over. Even without the bobsled disqualifying you, if you take a literal approach, in order to break the glass of world 5 I believe (casino), knuckles must be level 1+ to do a combo attack to break the glass . The uploader of this video said verbatim from 10:00 - 10:15 that "when knuckles is level 1 or higher he does a third hit in his combo where he JUMPS a tiny bit and slams down", which was the strategy used to pass this segment. If you apply your theory of keeping the trio you play as from jumping, then knuckles, who you play as, is jumping. While not a jump triggered by clicking the jump button, a jump is still a jump done willfully by you as knuckles, in the literal sense, failing the challenge Tl;DR: The challenge is if YOU as the player can beat the game w/o jumping. Anything you control is the player and if you need to jump to proceed in any way, you fail. And yes, I had nothing better to do
@Psepha Жыл бұрын
@@mughyie8818 Well if we're picking specific philosophical arguments, I could argue that I can beat every game in existence without jumping. If the specific challenge is whether or not the PLAYER can complete the game without jumping, I can stay firmly on the couch for the entire game and I personally won't jump a single time. It specifically says whether or not YOU can do it, and by definition you are not Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, or a bobsled - you are a person holding a controller.
@mughyie8818 Жыл бұрын
@Psepha Exactly lol. It really depends on how literal or metaphorical (or however along the spectrum) you wanna go. I can't argue with that cuz literally you're right! But metaphorically you're not at the same time. (At least in my opinion) It all depends on semantics and interpretation of vague words and concepts such as who is you, what counts as the player, and what counts as a jump. Interesting huh? This spectrum of interpretation and thinking explains a lot on how people think justify the challenge and its outcome here in the comments. We are all wrong and right, all at the same time, and it all depends on who you ask. Spooky huh?
@Poppipower Жыл бұрын
@@Psepha You mean you’re not jumping when you play the game?
@mrme.4844 ай бұрын
@@mughyie8818
@channychan35582 жыл бұрын
I am actually very happy to see that your sub count has been steadily increasing. Your dedication and editing definitely deserves more recognition. Keep up the good work pal!
@basedovers1427 Жыл бұрын
Dude, please keep making more videos like this. I loved how you explained everything and the humor. Everything was so good, just keep it up, y'know.
@shadymoustafa93 Жыл бұрын
The danganronpa ost launching as you begin arguing that it's not a jump at 16:30 made my day, I had to leave a like
@KawaiiDawn Жыл бұрын
I tried doing this a few months ago but never got that far, the fact you figured all of this out is awesome
@keithbellic2629 Жыл бұрын
Beyond a doubt, one of the best videos I’ve watched about Sonic Heroes ever. The comedy and script was top notch, and the blatant gaslighting so humorously woven into it. Definitely earned a subscriber! Can’t wait to see what else you produce!
@Uhhhhh1188 Жыл бұрын
Your reactions are the best part of this video. The first one (7:58) made me laugh for a while. It would feel perfect for a "Perfectly Cut Scream Compilation" video. Kind of wish I heard the full reaction to it.
@Fightersword2 жыл бұрын
It's very rare that I see a video and go 'what the actual fuck was that bullshit?', but some of those lightspeed attacks genuinely made me react that way.
@lilypaddington1797 Жыл бұрын
This has got to be my favorite game challenge video on youtube I've seen so far, quite literally breaking the game six ways from sunday and not giving up and either ending the run or considering it flawed in the first five minutes. I do appreciate that you work with "is it possible?" instead of "CAN I DO IT?" to prove a point, lol. It might also help that I played this game as a kid, but whatever.
@KQVTownTheme Жыл бұрын
I never knew I needed a cross between challenge runs and Sam O'Nella content in my life, but here I am, and I love it.
@umdofevy Жыл бұрын
The sheer dedication on display here is more than worth a subscribe. Can't wait to see what else interests you to this extent!
@orionsnecrosis7698 Жыл бұрын
This run was wild. You’re really entertaining on top of everything else, can’t wait to see more!
@Musou.7 ай бұрын
Tails is actually pulling up the bobsled, in a similar manor as the thundershoot. if thundershoot is valid so is the bobsled. Also, that wouldnt even matter due to tails not elevating himself using his legs, hes simply propeling his tails at a faster rate to gain temporary height.
@mastersonhigh111723 күн бұрын
Propelling his tails at a faster rate to gain temporary height sounds a lot like flying 😅
@XenoWars Жыл бұрын
I would not have thought the game would be possible without jumping. This was a fantastic video and a great watch. You have earned a subscriber!
@kellen23172 жыл бұрын
i need to stop watching your videos at night because it is now 2am and i have discovered the vast and bountiful secrets of the sonic heroes physics engine. keep it up.
@PauloVitorHMK Жыл бұрын
"Unlike bobsleds, trolleys are real." That's a bold claim.
@teski.did.it4202 жыл бұрын
Another challenge I didn’t know I wanted to see, very cool gamer
@PaRappa_the_Rapper Жыл бұрын
you're fs blowing up within the next year. Just binged all your vids, stellar content. Humor, dedication, and story-crafting are all on par with ymfah, not sure if you know him but y'all are top-tier content machines. mad props and see you at 100k+
@Pufftarot Жыл бұрын
Was honestly not expecting this video to be this well made, edited, scripted and voiced. Diamond in the rough right here!
@Amaryryry2 жыл бұрын
This video genuinely left me speechless. I knew this game was broken, but holy shit LOL. This is actually a meme.
@elibonham438811 ай бұрын
Lmao what even more crazy is he did this challenge and didnt even know a basic mechanic about rails if u hold B u go faster
@КириллТрифонов-е5ф Жыл бұрын
I like how at one point the game BEGS you to jump yet you still stood your ground
@rodrigonogueira9375 Жыл бұрын
That was phenomenal !! Some of the tricks you pulled are unreal, especially with the sonic heroes slippery controls. Just have a question, at the end of final fortress couldnt you just hold circle to keep the momentum and skip the big laser ? Amazing video, sonic heroes is such an underrated game so im glad to see new content for it 👍
@KosmoZer0 Жыл бұрын
This video was really entertaining and the funniest thing is that it was recommended to me through the KZbin algorithm and now you have earned a subscriber, well done!
@51Jamie2 жыл бұрын
I've genuinely fallen in love with your content
@riskybiznu9702 Жыл бұрын
Love how fast your intro is getting to the point very quickly. Great video too I’m glad I got this recommended
@murdog3000 Жыл бұрын
This is a great channel, props to you and keep doing what you’re doing!
@Winasaurus Жыл бұрын
Vector doing wacky bounce jumps then responding to a reasonable question with "WHO'S THIS BROAD?" is the kind of thing I didn't know I needed. Also I suggest an updated Did You Know Gaming episode for Sonic Heroes. "Did you know that in Sonic Heroes, much like Animal Crossing, you can find entire other games that you can play? They take the form of an originally unreleased sonic bobsled game, it's a separate game, it's a separate game, IT'S A SEPARATE GAME, IT'S NOT REAL, I DIDN'T JUMP"
@scummygrummy52202 жыл бұрын
Great video. You’re channel is super underrated. One of my favorite challenge run channels
@jsoyinka Жыл бұрын
This is such good content! It's technical, it's hilarious, and it's just great story telling! I subscribed like 10 minutes into the video. I hope your channel continues to grow!
@leeroy54 Жыл бұрын
I am so glad that for once a challenge runner actually puts some jokes into a video so its not just a list of tricks to the end of the game. Best challenge runner on youtube keep at it my man.
@NicoNicoSmiles Жыл бұрын
To think I clicked on some random ass video just to end up subscribing. This run is insanity. Also I found that you can clear the final laser in final fortress by holding b instead of tapping it.
@Andrew-ww1hz Жыл бұрын
My absolute sides when you omit the bobsled by being pedantic. A lot of humor, dedication, and creativity in this challenge. UncommentedPannen would be proud.
@RenoTKC Жыл бұрын
I have never seen your channel before but that was incredible. Your Humor, comedic timing and dedication are unbelievable. You earned yourself a fan
@Reversinator Жыл бұрын
You made me really interested in the Team Chaotix run and now I'm sad we won't see it in full :(
@campbellsonicАй бұрын
16:45 The funny thing about this line is that it's not even technically true. The Fly character will ALWAYS fall off last, meaning you will never actually be in a situation where you can't jump in a bobsled, because by that point you're just dead already.
@noetic5946 Жыл бұрын
great video!!! i thought this vid was from a bigger channel so i was shocked when i saw how underrated you are ngl
@tinycatfriend Жыл бұрын
this was amazing, there aren't nearly enough bizarre challenge runs for this game. its just begging to be exploited!! and you did it fantastically!!!
@ShadeStrayed Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I faintly remember abusing at least a few of these tricks to my advantage when I was playing this game as a kid. I wasn't dumb, but game logic made little sense to me back then, so when I didn't feel like asking for help like the child I was, I figured out some workarounds. Man, what a glorious sight this video was, it wasn't in vein, good shit my man.
@biscuitygudness Жыл бұрын
my god. this is beautiful. the sheer determination on display here is amazing. bobsleds were never real
@rookiebetwo7656 Жыл бұрын
I just found your channel, and I have to say your sense of humor and overall disposition is super enjoyable to watch! it's so cool to see sonic heroes and souls borne challenge runs, and they are all well edited and scripted. It's also great to see you're on twitch as well!! looking forward to seeing more from you!!! cheers 💕💕
@Amir-jn5mo Жыл бұрын
holy shit you broke the realms of possibility. Love your humor and also can't believe how broken the lightspeed attack is lol. Thanks for breaking my favorite childhood game
@scantyer2 жыл бұрын
The tornado thing was so funny, truly one of those things you only discover when doing these dumb challenges
@caleb2547 Жыл бұрын
Love this type of content, and obviously due to the difficulty of the runs and the time needed it takes so long! Super glad to have another amazing content creator to add to my list, as there is never enough. :)
@SGEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
the bit featuring Ricardo all of three minutes in let me know the video would be a well-edited banger top props, that's an easy sub
@TheStrikerV20 Жыл бұрын
Man, what an amazing video I just found. I’m glad I gave it chance. I genuinely loved it.
@Swolegard Жыл бұрын
I'm watching this for the 4th time, can't get enough of it. I love this game and find you and your humour right up my alley. Thank you for making this.
@AquaticNebula Жыл бұрын
I still have genuine fear with that alligator at the end of Lost Jungle
@shep9194 Жыл бұрын
22:30 Ah see thats the problem, you had to had your name engraved ring.
@Jibediah2 жыл бұрын
Loving this channel, thanks for the good content
@sonicshadow5221 Жыл бұрын
The trick at 8:50 is called rocket accel cancel
@Sovic91 Жыл бұрын
17:55 Oh, no no no no no. That explanation about the bobsled not jumping was the real plot armor that saved the run.
@andtrees3192 Жыл бұрын
this is so important to me that you’ve made this. it feels like christmas today
@Faceless_time_traveler Жыл бұрын
I played this game since I was five, and only now I learn Sonic has a unique attack when Team Blast gauge is depleting. Btw, this video is geniusly hilarious, I'm subscribing
@brazzledazzle5951 Жыл бұрын
wow this is a really cool channel. in surprised you dont have way more subs. if you see this, thanks for the hard work that clearly went into this video. the skill, creativity, and humor on display are very impressive
@RecRoomPlays Жыл бұрын
I've been playing through all the Sonic games recently with a buddy to LP and we've gotten to Sonic Heroes, and let me tell you I really felt the "you're fucking kidding me" when falling through the bingo table 12 minutes in here lmao
@logans.4079 Жыл бұрын
I discovered you a couple days ago and you've earned a sub. Would love to see more Sonic challenges, I really enjoy the Souls content too.
@soulhammer Жыл бұрын
This is amazing, I salute you sir. Great stuff!
@calistusjay60 Жыл бұрын
This was AMAZING. Please do more Sonic content. I’d love to see a similar challenge for Sonic 06, considering the endless jank possibilities that game has!
@vaporwolf93442 жыл бұрын
Now this is amazing content and good humor!
@vaporwolf93442 жыл бұрын
Its midnight, go get some sleep you goober
@Meganarb2 жыл бұрын
Y'no, now that you mention it, I've never seen a bobsleigh in real life.
@HobbitTanoo Жыл бұрын
A fun jank-challenge with commentary that genuinely funny? No, it can't be
@ExceedinglyFPR Жыл бұрын
ima be real, i've played this game through like 6 times and i did not know about the light speed attack. it's like how i did not know you could strafe in shadow the hedgehog because i stopped walking through the tutorials after the first level.
@idontwantahandlethough Жыл бұрын
Cool runnings, mon!
@CowardEdd Жыл бұрын
jump verb 1. push oneself off a surface and into the air by using the muscles in one's legs and feet. Do bobsleds have legs or feet? Checkmate, Big Jump. Amazing video, by the way.
@traiges4142 ай бұрын
I am currently binge watching all your videos and LOVE all of them - Slowly I am starting to think i might love you too :3 hope you are uploading more of those bangers soon
@haanimirza4090 Жыл бұрын
Very cool, thank you Meaty Jesus. Just subbed
@Mattisperplexed Жыл бұрын
Criminally underrated video this deserves way more views
@DarkFrozenDepths Жыл бұрын
Funny how so many hate the pinball tables, and yet I like them... Then again, I realized that using the flight character on the tables gives the best mix of speed and control which makes it very reasonable. Might be a PS2 only thing (yes I played on that), but it's really consistent.
@XTHHedgehogАй бұрын
5:30 This becomes even funnier when you remember the channel name is "Meaty Jesus".
@markyang78462 жыл бұрын
The one of many games where Sonic Fans could not beat this baby game jumpless.
@nexusetmiaouss Жыл бұрын
It was beautiful, a true piece of art, I love you sense of humour
@aashunce Жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed every second of this video. Staying for more.
@dima_keller Жыл бұрын
Never expected to see a challenge on this game. Sonic Heroes, Adventure and Riders are games I'll love forever no matter how janky and bad they are
@aimari2755 Жыл бұрын
No one: Not a single soul: Meaty jesus: let me create an insanely difficult challenge for no reason
@michaelbuckers Жыл бұрын
Oh boy, Sonic Heroes with only half A press! I've been waiting for this.
@viscountrainbows2857 Жыл бұрын
A supercut of a "flawless" longplay would make for a compelling bit of letsplay cinema. Probably never happen but, one can dream
@IrvinCascade Жыл бұрын
12:19 I'd actually LOVE to play a Sonic Spinball 2 filled with these types of Pinball tables. One of my favorite parts of all of Sonic Heroes. Fite me.
@eyedol48352 жыл бұрын
I've got the flu but your videos coming up in my recommendations is a god send. Gonna binge ur videos till I'm not dying anymore lol
@joeyidc3212 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry i was hallucinating the incident again with the bobsleds my apologies thank you for sitting with me for the whole thing You're a good friend
@GIRru11 Жыл бұрын
Regarding the bobsled dilemma, I would say it's not so much jumping, as it is Tails dead lifting it. A Bobsled is unable to physically jump, and Tails is more pulling it than actually jumping. He's also not flying either so that's both rules still in the clear
@imjellyblobАй бұрын
11:35 im pretty sure the reason for this quirk. Its to stop people from using tornado more than once in a jump and getting infinite height
@armando-_-8872 Жыл бұрын
Just stumbled on your account, love the content and comedic timing. Will follow for more bud ;)
@FwendlyMushwoom Жыл бұрын
26:39 "Reality is scripted to always give me the win" This was actually canon plot point in the old Sonic comics, after having lost so many times, Eggman went batshit insane for a bit until he tried to figure out a scientific explanation. It's because Sonic has absorbed so much Chaos Energy over his life that he's basically the embodiment of chaos, effecting the outcome of seemingly random events to his benefit on a subconscious level.
@eclipse4517 Жыл бұрын
I feel like this was the writers incorporating part of their legal contract into the story. When Sega licensed the comics, supposedly part of their contract was literally that Sonic wasn't allowed to lose.
@FwendlyMushwoom Жыл бұрын
@@eclipse4517 Yeah, I know about the mandates. I just think it's funny that they acknowledged it with an in-universe explanation.
@811supersonic Жыл бұрын
This, this video right here, top tier content 10/10
@anth_genious Жыл бұрын
Incredible video, subbed
@miguelaguilar5115 Жыл бұрын
I love how this man decided to take on a ridiculous challenge and God was like "yeah, let me give him some plot armor"
@ShinSnipes Жыл бұрын
Bro learned how to TAS just for this video. Like, words cant even describe how impressive and how much dedication that is
@IrvinCascade Жыл бұрын
5:29 Nearly killed me. Was eating bacon and eggs, and choked on some egg.
@DaviddeBergerac Жыл бұрын
This is the first time I'm learning about Sonic's Lightspeed Attack and I love this game