MEDIA LITERACY FOR WRITERS - Terrible Writing Advice

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Terrible Writing Advice

Terrible Writing Advice

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@reubenoakley5887
@reubenoakley5887 Жыл бұрын
Media literacy is super easy, barely an inconvenience! I didn't even have to watch the whole video before commenting, because being early is WAY more important than being informed!
@vijayhare3787
@vijayhare3787 Жыл бұрын
Lmao I read that entire comment in Screenwriter Guy's voice. It sounds 100% like something he'd say 😉
@pixelgoat7317
@pixelgoat7317 Жыл бұрын
Media Literacy is TIGHT
@toko90s9
@toko90s9 Жыл бұрын
Especially on KZbin! KZbin itself even agrees since it rewards you for commenting before watching the video!
@westphalianstallion4293
@westphalianstallion4293 Жыл бұрын
The screenwriter guy needs more exposure. I use the phrase "super easy, barely an inconvenice" too often when teaching martial arts and no one is getting it. "Emotional damage" as a phras eis way more whide spread.
@catbatrat1760
@catbatrat1760 Жыл бұрын
@@toko90s9 Wait, it does? What reward?
@ninjacat230
@ninjacat230 Жыл бұрын
The "having a thing in a story is the same as endorsing it" resonated with me.
@sianais
@sianais Жыл бұрын
Seeing someone equating a character characterized as a bully and awful person before their redemption arc in a story saying something "misogynistic" being used by a reader to justify their belief of the author hating women was an incident which convinced me that people can achieve infinite levels of stupidity. I've even seen a few accuse authors of being in favor of classism because the story was set in fifteenth century Europe, despite the main character being expressly portrayed as being against the current system. The entire premise was based on the protagonist using those rigid rules against the establishment. People honestly just want to get offended. They ignore context. They ignore the fact that it's fiction. And once they see something triggering, despite the context, they start saying the most ridiculous crap that sometimes includes things never mentioned in the story-not even hinted at. They straight up start talking about another story or life experiences. The craziest ones can't seem to separate the piece of fiction from their life story. It's the most mind boggling thing I've ever witnessed.
@reubenoakley5887
@reubenoakley5887 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've heard people argue that JK Rowling endorses slavery because of the house elves in Harry Potter 🙄
@ginogatash4030
@ginogatash4030 Жыл бұрын
I remember there was a guy who wrote a hot take about Attack on Titan being pro fascist because the main character or whatever does questionable things, and his defense when people gave him shit for it and asked how the show itself is pro fascism was something along the lines of "because I have eyeballs and I studied at school!" These people are genuinely the bane of media criticism.
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty Жыл бұрын
@R. P. That's easy! you just go take Mannimarco from Oblivion, whose biggest villainy is cheating you out of a semi-decent boss fight because he doesn't have enough magicka to cast his spells so he's just a squishy mage trying to stab you with a butter knife.
@happynihilist2573
@happynihilist2573 Жыл бұрын
My favourite example is how some people said Hazbin Hotel is homophobic because a side character was was said "i don't touch the geys" when refusing to give the main character a handshake.. The show is set in hell, this side character is someone how was literally damed to HELL!!!
@trinaq
@trinaq Жыл бұрын
"The man who does not read has no advantage over the man who cannot read." Mark Twain Not according to JP, he doesn't!
@leohex8767
@leohex8767 Жыл бұрын
Its JP, and your typo proves Twain right.
@dragonfell5078
@dragonfell5078 Жыл бұрын
​@@leohex8767 well yes, that's literally the point
@cryolocker0224
@cryolocker0224 Жыл бұрын
If I can’t read, I cant lose any arguements because my sources cannot be wrong Checkmate
@nightstar6179
@nightstar6179 Жыл бұрын
I dont like reading. My adhd does not agree with it. Audio books and video essays are my jam
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
​@@nightstar6179audiobooks count as reading thou.
@avysunrise
@avysunrise Жыл бұрын
This is a petition for JP to make an episode about the mighty love triangle for the hundredth episode. Even if it is five years from now. I NEED IT
@yogeybogeybear3542
@yogeybogeybear3542 Жыл бұрын
U must be the pinned comment!!!!!
@n-extrafries-surprise
@n-extrafries-surprise Жыл бұрын
I'll be setting up camp here until JP uploads a Love Triangle video
@KiraSlith
@KiraSlith Жыл бұрын
Look, JP can't bait new people into watching ALL OF THE EPISODES if he doesn't leave a topic scattered across it.
@m-pc5334
@m-pc5334 Жыл бұрын
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@idontknoq4813
@idontknoq4813 Жыл бұрын
Should've been ep. 69.
@kirstenpaff8946
@kirstenpaff8946 Жыл бұрын
Shipper vision is a truly terrifying power to behold. Doesn't matter if the characters spend the entire story trying to kill each other, have never actually met, or exist in completely separate points on the timeline, shipper vision has them playing tonsil tennis like the survival of the human species depends on it.
@cara-seyun
@cara-seyun Жыл бұрын
Bases their entire argument off ✨vibes✨ but will also call you braindead if you don’t agree with them
@takanara7
@takanara7 Жыл бұрын
Sure but in the real world most people who are murdered are murdered by their romantic partners, therefore, what's more romantic then trying to kill eachother? That's just LOGIC.
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty Жыл бұрын
See this is why crackships are superior. We might be folding the continuity into an incomprehensible pretzel more than Baki the Grappler mauls physics, but we're really really sure that it's not possible and we're doing it because it sounds fun and/or we want to baffle others as much as we were confused. Shout outs to whoever wrote the Link/Mailbox crackfic that I read as my first english fic, thinking that I MUST have translated that one wrong, only to find that it was specifically inexplicably adult Link with the mailbox in Clock Town in Termina. (Yes Link was wearing the Postman's Hat so the mailbox would be open to his advances, of course, can't break its established characterization.)
@loojiejie7381
@loojiejie7381 Жыл бұрын
​@@neoqwertyagreed, as someone in a fandom with a bunch of crackships. I will be genuinely surprised if any of them are taken seriously. Most of them unanimously agree that it's basically the fandom equivalent of junk food. Is it nonsensical? Yes. Is it garbage? Yes. Am I having fun? Yes.
@henryfleischer404
@henryfleischer404 Жыл бұрын
@@neoqwerty Yeah I love crackships too. I'm A Touhou fan, most ships are between characters that don't know each other and have no reason to be together. I should see if I can fine a Cirno X Utsuho manga.
@Entropic_Alloy
@Entropic_Alloy Жыл бұрын
The comment about having a "bad thing" in the story, and the protagonist doing it no less, is so on point. It is fucking wild the leaps in logic some people will make, saying that the author would endorse "bad thing" when it is clear that the author is using it as a story element and way to criticize it.
@Dave102693
@Dave102693 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes it’s necessary to condone it, or be neutral to said actions to make the story more compelling.
@hauntedwafflecake
@hauntedwafflecake Жыл бұрын
Even when the entire point of the story is that the protagonist is a huge piece of human garbage and/or about their journey to become a decent human being that will forever be haunted by the terrible things they used to think and do people still somehow find ways to think the author is endorsing the bad things.
@stephonmanny7555
@stephonmanny7555 Жыл бұрын
The first thing I thought of was AOT
@GamersHolyArmy
@GamersHolyArmy Жыл бұрын
@@stephonmanny7555 What I thought was the people saying that about South Park and how Cartman is a bad person
@christianweibrecht6555
@christianweibrecht6555 Жыл бұрын
​@@stephonmanny7555 I have seen too many laughable laughable reactions to season four by people who applied zero critical thinking
@jackson4672
@jackson4672 Жыл бұрын
Something I always found funny in regards to media literacy is that 1984 was banned in the USSR for being anti-communist, banned in parts of the USA for being pro-communist, but the book itself was about totalitarianism.
@plantainsame2049
@plantainsame2049 Жыл бұрын
Fact check that
@metalsludge8205
@metalsludge8205 Жыл бұрын
It's almost like dehumanizing authoritarianism doesn't fall neatly onto one side of the economic axis
@hectorrodriguezgonzalez8938
@hectorrodriguezgonzalez8938 Жыл бұрын
​​@@metalsludge8205false, the book was writen as a endorsment of socialism as explaind by the author in the prologe, that was cut in the US realise
@mina9e
@mina9e 4 ай бұрын
G.O. be playing no one's side so he always ends up on the bottom, hahaha!
@firelordeliteast6750
@firelordeliteast6750 4 ай бұрын
@@hectorrodriguezgonzalez8938 I'm pretty sure the means of productions don't ever come up as a major plot element of the story, it's really the propaganda machines and mob mentality that get pushed.
@ji_ji_
@ji_ji_ Жыл бұрын
U missed one! Make sure to create a persona that's not designed to entertain people, but to deflect most valid criticisms that come your way. This way, if someone accuses you of being wrong - like twisting the facts of a movie to fit your own agenda - you can dismiss their accusation by saying they're taking your 'character' too seriously.
@kin-3877
@kin-3877 Жыл бұрын
CinemaSins, Dunkey etc
@almightycinder
@almightycinder Жыл бұрын
Nostalgia Critic is really bad about that. He always says his character is a complete loser who gets way too upset about movies and that everything is just that character doing that. ...So naturally, every analysis he's made out of character matches up 100% with his in-character videos. And he barely talks or acts differently when he's out of character.
@mrlaz9011
@mrlaz9011 Жыл бұрын
ah, the classic "schrodinger's douchebag" reviewer.
@cam4636
@cam4636 Жыл бұрын
You can't get out of paying damages that easily, Alex Jones
@iranam1004
@iranam1004 Жыл бұрын
The Arin Hansen experience
@cinderellaskeleton6720
@cinderellaskeleton6720 Жыл бұрын
My fav kind of media literacy is when people criticize something when they clearly have not even watched the movie. For example, i have seen so so sooo many people say ariel wanted to be human for a man when there is a WHOLE FUCKING MUSICAL NUMBER about how she wants to learn about humans. It's like they don't watch the movie and they just copy their opinions from buzzfeed articles.
@iceyflowergamer4474
@iceyflowergamer4474 Жыл бұрын
“I have no experience with GTA or video games in general, therefore I can tell you that Rockstar is run by psychopaths that cause violence and need to be shut down!”
@thegillmachine
@thegillmachine Жыл бұрын
right, as if her interest in Eric couldn’t possibly have stemmed from her fascination with humans from the beginning. since he was the first hot young human man she saw tbh
@MusicoftheDamned
@MusicoftheDamned Жыл бұрын
Lack of media literacy and/or watching the actual movie is honestly the only explanation I have for the worrying trend I've seen of several people decry _Blazing Saddles_ as a racist movie...despite it being one of the most anti-racist movies made even to this day. I can understand being uncomfortable with watching it if you're (super) sensitive to racial slurs, but that's *not* the same thing as it being racist, especially when literally every character who uses a racial slur is shown to be, at best, an idiot. At least with the first _Starship Troopers_ movie I can somewhat see how people miss that it's a satire of fascism somehow, but the _Blazing Saddles_ "hot take" is as dumb as it feels insincere.
@PeterDanielBerg
@PeterDanielBerg Жыл бұрын
dang i forget does she ever even get a chance to light a fire she was so curious about what fire is
@n-extrafries-surprise
@n-extrafries-surprise Жыл бұрын
That and victimblaming Cinderella for not being a girlboss in the original animated despite being strong willed, and Belle having stockholme syndrome yet in the animated movie she has shown no interest / despise the beast and has the option to leave if she wishes to but stayed only developed feelings for the Beast past his captor phase
@reubenoakley5887
@reubenoakley5887 Жыл бұрын
It was really nice of Greed to pause dramatically during his pre-recorded message so that General Chainsaw could give his reactions
@ulaznar
@ulaznar Жыл бұрын
He learned from Lelouch how to plan even the reaction of his target when presenting him a pre-recorded message
@teddyhaines6613
@teddyhaines6613 Жыл бұрын
@@ulaznar If he'd learned from Batman his pre-recorded message would tell the recipient to shut the hell up directly after they finished their remarks.
@ArifRWinandar
@ArifRWinandar Жыл бұрын
It's like how Spider-Man No Way Home has pauses during cameos and references that it knows would make the audience cheer and laugh.
@orrorsaness5942
@orrorsaness5942 Жыл бұрын
@@ArifRWinandarThat is truly amazing 🥲
@joesmutz9287
@joesmutz9287 Жыл бұрын
In 22 minutes he manages to take a shot at the entirety of KZbin at various points That's honestly an impressive
@jasminv8653
@jasminv8653 Жыл бұрын
Tells more about youtube, I think 😂
@ghostface5559
@ghostface5559 Жыл бұрын
surgical in precision
@Teyuqueuiquop
@Teyuqueuiquop Жыл бұрын
😒
@yuin3320
@yuin3320 Жыл бұрын
I disagree, I think it's _two_ impressive
@SuperVoodude
@SuperVoodude Жыл бұрын
I've never been confronted with media illiteracy more bluntly than when I talked to a coworker about the One Punch Man anime. They said they liked it because it looked great, but asked me why Saitama was "drawn badly sometimes instead of super cool all the time". I had no idea how to respond.
@nathankurtz8045
@nathankurtz8045 Жыл бұрын
I would say it's to stress the idea that he's not a larger than life person, he's just a guy. And it has the side effect of making any time he's rendered "seriously" a potential gag, as there's almost no conflict in the show that warrants actually being taken seriously.
@Friendly_Neigborhood_Astolfo
@Friendly_Neigborhood_Astolfo Жыл бұрын
Also because One sucked at drawing in the original web comic but was saved by the writing.
@danaa-
@danaa- 6 ай бұрын
I feel my braincells exploding like microwaved popcorn reading this. SAITAMA BEING UNSERIOUS AND HIS ARTSTYLE REFLECTING THAT IS THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT-
@IronLand-f3g
@IronLand-f3g 3 ай бұрын
Isn't that because of how unserious he is compared to others?
@anoninunen
@anoninunen Жыл бұрын
Media literacy is not just for fiction - understanding the context and content of any written work is important
@viperstriker4728
@viperstriker4728 Жыл бұрын
Especially history, which is written in older dialects. But we do love to assume the author meant the definition that has only been around for a few years.
@sanfransiscon
@sanfransiscon Жыл бұрын
It felt liberating for me when I finally really realized that I can enjoy works that have themes or messages that I disagree with. It's perfectly fine to go, "Interesting idea. Moving on."
@sanfransiscon
@sanfransiscon Жыл бұрын
@allksjndlkasjdkl Fair enough. imo just feel however you wanna feel about something.
@wren_.
@wren_. Жыл бұрын
yeah exactly! If the argument is pointless, than two conflicting opinions on it can exist at the same time and both be true. it’s like the infamous pineapple on pizza debate. Pineapple is both fine on pizza and should never be within a 50 foot radius of one. The debate doesn’t really matter, it’s not like it has lasting consequences. Both opinions are true, and they are allowed to conflict with each other.
@R_lulu
@R_lulu Жыл бұрын
I realized that long ago. Now I'm like "oh, well. You're wrong, but please go on"
@danaa-
@danaa- 6 ай бұрын
As an indonesian, this is what it feels like talking to a conservative muslim. "What the fuck are you cooking? Anyways, keep going."
@milicadiy
@milicadiy 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, Gone With The Wind is a great movie.
@underrated1524
@underrated1524 Жыл бұрын
See, the problem with self-awareness is that everyone thinks they have it.
@ThorfinnSonofThors892
@ThorfinnSonofThors892 Жыл бұрын
Bingo.
@ctnc6059
@ctnc6059 Жыл бұрын
I know I'm not self-aware and even I think I'm self-aware because I'm self-aware enough to realize I'm not self-aware.
@wren_.
@wren_. Жыл бұрын
and if you do have it, then you won’t get involved in pointless discussions because you’ll be aware that they mean nothing. The most self aware people on the Internet are the people that don’t scream over it
@Joshua_Hale
@Joshua_Hale Жыл бұрын
A well placed 'else' would have made that statement much less accurate but much more hilarious.
@tripwire202
@tripwire202 Жыл бұрын
​@@Joshua_HaleLove that addition XD
@shadithakis
@shadithakis Жыл бұрын
JP definitely had an experience with these kind of people recently or all of the time
@KPX01
@KPX01 Жыл бұрын
not surprise there considering how social media especially twitter react, like a villain being bad is bad and equal to author endorsing it is very twitter behavior.
@adriftinglink
@adriftinglink Жыл бұрын
He has released a book and probably has had to deal with people who lack media literacy. This video felt very personal.
@wilburdemitel8468
@wilburdemitel8468 Жыл бұрын
bowser incident 2023
@ethanwilliams1880
@ethanwilliams1880 Жыл бұрын
The sarcastic "anti-advice" he gives is entertaining, but also encourages a lack of nuance, specifically in every section including and after "Loud internet Pseudo Celebrities can be Wrong", where he implies they are all always wrong, which, even ignoring any evidence they use to support their arguments, is highly statistically improbable. Also this video really encourages the idea that both sides of any given argument are wrong, the classic "fence sitting" stance I'm more tired of than any of the annoyances put forward here. To dismiss both sides as wrong is just a dishonest sympathy play at best, and detracts from the value of any discussion. I suppose that this also falls under a lack of nuance, as a more reasonable, honest take on an argument would be to discuss which parts are right/wrong from each side.
@KPX01
@KPX01 Жыл бұрын
@@ethanwilliams1880 that the point of this video, entertaining first . If you want a full blown in depth commentary on issue JP video is definitely not it.
@marshmallowmountains4636
@marshmallowmountains4636 Жыл бұрын
People assuming something happening in your story is you endorsing it is a huge problem in some character communities (like Toyhouse). If you have an evil character or story, they assume you agree with and push those same views no matter how much you show it's negative.
@cara-seyun
@cara-seyun Жыл бұрын
You can’t even do morally ambiguous protagonists now Because so many people think protagonist = author mouthpiece
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty Жыл бұрын
@@cara-seyun You can still do them you just have to put sparkling 48 pt font ALLCAPS author notes in bright red text about how [x] is bad, don't do [x], mmmkay.
@Dave102693
@Dave102693 Жыл бұрын
It’s only bad for me when fans ignore all of that ti give said characters a free pass while hating characters who would do those evil things unironically.
@marshmallowmountains4636
@marshmallowmountains4636 Жыл бұрын
@@neoqwerty I have a giant warning on my character's profiles that I don't agree with their beliefs and actions and I still get people yelling at me for supporting evil actions lmao
@mrlaz9011
@mrlaz9011 Жыл бұрын
dont even bother at this point, some people are just looking to be offended.
@creeperkingdom3190
@creeperkingdom3190 Жыл бұрын
The worse version of this is when the themes are in direct opposition to what actually happened in the story. Say the theme if a story is how violence is bad because every character repeats it every five lines. But when you actually think about the story everytime violence is used it easily fixes problems and makes everything better and when violence isn't used it always goes bad. You go and talk to fans about how the is fighting itself and they just call you stupid for not "seeing the themes" I understood the themes my entire point was the themes do not match tge context of tge story.
@ginogatash4030
@ginogatash4030 Жыл бұрын
That's more of an author faliure than lack of media literacy though, obviously authors can butcher their stories and while I'm not a "death of the author" kinda guy, I do agree that the author should be questioned about self contradicting tendencies and other faliures, but I don't think it would've been super relevant to this video, as it's pretty much exclusively about bad faith criticisms from the audience, maybe he'll make a video on writers fucking up intent later, but he covered so much stuff he probably already talked about it all throughout those videos.
@justinambru8529
@justinambru8529 Жыл бұрын
I personally like this sort of irony.
@chopperjoe1998
@chopperjoe1998 Жыл бұрын
On your point about violence, that can be a pretty difficult theme to tackle. I think it works better if the protagonist or “good guys” look for peace first, only for the antagonist or “bad guys” to almost always choose violence (unless we’re telling a cautionary tale, and showing violence from the protagonist leads them down a dark and destructive path) That can invite some fairly uncomfortable questions about the “finite possibilities of diplomacy” and “the inevitability of violence in the face of extremism, fanaticism, or might-makes-right philosophy” There are ways to get around this. For instance, showing how, even though the problem is now “solved”, their are irreversible consequences: death, injury, destruction, loss, bitterness, etc. Sorry for my random ass tangent. I absolutely agree with what you’re saying. I’m more emphasizing how challenging blending themes with story in a consistent way can be.
@pickyphysicsstudent201
@pickyphysicsstudent201 Жыл бұрын
I think Harry Potter is a great example of this. It says a lot about prejudice & discrimination as one of the main driving factors for the conflict. Mainly the villains wanting to maintain a pure-blooded status and to keep their power for them and close closed-minded people. Yet the main cast & Hogwarts academy treats all Slytherin as defacto evil in training, who often get sorted into said groups, against their will, at age 11. How deterministic of them. Is it any different than the villains wanting to maintain pure-booded race purity? Okay, TBF, there are some shades of grey but 96% of the time treats the baby snakes as evil.
@ginogatash4030
@ginogatash4030 Жыл бұрын
@@pickyphysicsstudent201 It also doesn't help that the notion that all Slytherins are evil is pretty much proven to be correct time and time again, and that their house is just allowed to indulge in their racist ideas without anyone saying anything about it, even though they're pretty much exhibiting the Wizarding world's equivalent of Nazi sympathising, all that simply never gets acknowledged by the story. It's rather odd that Hogwarts simply didn't give a fuck about an entire house of their school is displaying bad guy traits despite the supposed good guys being in charge not approving of said behavior, and the fact that Voldemort himself and his ideology are still a very sensitive and controversial topic, it's like they're completely clueless about anything that happens in their own school, and it's all just one fart away from tumbling down if not for a bunch of meddling kids, I get that the adults can't be too active cause that'll ruin the adventure for Harry and his friends, but there has to be a better way of achieving that without making the adults who run the school look like hypocritical negligent morons.
@Starsmasher287
@Starsmasher287 Жыл бұрын
3:49 JP clearly has experience with these kinds of people given the sheer accuracy of this.
@davibrelazdealbuquerque5766
@davibrelazdealbuquerque5766 Жыл бұрын
Maybe he's one of these people 🤣
@cyberprime9355
@cyberprime9355 Жыл бұрын
​@Helzhangstudiosofficialwhen are they not?
@e_sky3045
@e_sky3045 Жыл бұрын
r39-r40
@e_sky3045
@e_sky3045 Жыл бұрын
@Helzhang Studios I legitimately can’t tell if this is parity.
@Ale-dd3ek
@Ale-dd3ek Жыл бұрын
​@Helzhang Studios agree But I think that Disney being Bad at handling Star wars Is Also true
@kirstenpaff8946
@kirstenpaff8946 Жыл бұрын
Tolkien threatening wanna-be analysts of his work with his pipe is just too funny.
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
Yes extremely funny The thing is he hed metaphors, he just let it up to the readers. I am pretty sure thst just becaiäuse he let people come to their own meaning tere, does make them less metaphors. Just not ametaphor for one thing.
@deriznohappehquite
@deriznohappehquite Жыл бұрын
@@marocat4749 applicability vs. allegory.
@purplehaze2358
@purplehaze2358 Жыл бұрын
Making an initial thesis and proceeding to back it up with evidence from the text is something taught in high school writing classes, so I'm not sure I understand why it's so hard for certain people to grasp.
@chrisschirripa5917
@chrisschirripa5917 Жыл бұрын
Because people are dumb especially ones on the internet
@steamtasticvagabond474
@steamtasticvagabond474 Жыл бұрын
Consider how many people have dropped out of high school, or simply didn’t care about their English classes
@elizabethshaw7472
@elizabethshaw7472 Жыл бұрын
"Ugh! When will I ever use this in real life?!" Meanwhile in real life:
@nebula8072
@nebula8072 Жыл бұрын
most of the people constantly whining about media literacy are kids in high school
@aoBubs
@aoBubs Жыл бұрын
cause people get through high school classes without really learning the stuff
@arjunsatheesh7609
@arjunsatheesh7609 Жыл бұрын
6:40 - Academics and shippers sharing that aspect of being dedicated to their particular interpretation of subtext, just made me laugh. Not something I expected from a academic sounding line.
@DonVigaDeFierro
@DonVigaDeFierro Жыл бұрын
Yeah, except one group is a plague trying to push their delusions backed by cherry-picking shoddy evidence and shutting themselves down to any form of dialogue or criticism, and the other group is just shippers.
@pikminman13
@pikminman13 Жыл бұрын
@@DonVigaDeFierro because everything must be accepted at face value and not questioned because it was """settled""". yet the entire point of actual science is repeatability. go figure. almost like bastardizing an idea but keeping a flashy name gets you nowhere good. meanwhile, i once constructed an entire argument on why the earth is round provable from me being some random dude that doesnt have access to my own rocket. i didnt even need to, i just wanted to make an example of something we "know" is right and actually proving it in increasingly lower tech and less trust-reliant ways, rather than just accepting it because it is "obvious". real academia is dying and it makes me very sad.
@L3X1N
@L3X1N Жыл бұрын
@@pikminman13 You're right, but the other guy is funnier... I'm conflicted.
@arjunsatheesh7609
@arjunsatheesh7609 Жыл бұрын
@@pikminman13 Most of the death of academia is caused by the education-publication complex that needs people to take loans and pursue higher studies and then publish anything and everything in 'reputed' journals that charge an arm and a liver for each publication. If you want to publish open-access then pay up even more. An academician who wishes to do real research and tries to publish a high-tech repetition is going to be stonewalled out of the high impact factor journals because no one will cite a successful repetition anyway. The only kind of experiment that is worth anything has to refute something previously done. So they pick up some obscure implication and use that subtext to publish a 'contrary finding'. Someone attempting something low-tech might have to settle for the querying the lower impact factor journals. There is little hope of being published even in those anyway. Then they feed the 'predatory' journal ecosystem which the 'reputed' ones keep looking down on. The entire reason for predatory journals is simply that no good repeatable proof will actually ever get traction on these 'indexed' journals. Real academia does keep working in the background though and we do have some genuine findings coming out every year but many of those are from large groups of people who never actually did much and that grad student who knows how to click the right buttons in that software. I should not generalize but this is a big part of the more 'real research' being published these days.
@TheDawnofVanlife
@TheDawnofVanlife Жыл бұрын
Many (at least sane ones or folks not 12 year old) shippers are just having fun. There’s plenty of shipping fan fiction I scribbled out in my teen years that I knew were just my fantasy and not anything that would happen on the show or movie I was writing about. Honestly there’s a thin line between love and hate and a thin line between friendship and that escalation to romance. And fan fiction is where you get to play with and blur those lines. Some shippers go too far thinking things should be canon, but as with most things that’s like 10% of people who enjoy shipping. People are so ready to shut down something that people literally do for fun and fan fiction is actually a great way to start writing in an environment where feedback is possible. Writing my original work it was a struggle to find someone interested in reading it. But fan fiction even when characters were OOC would usually get read by other people into the fandom even if you said it was OOC or alt universe up front.
@goosewithagibus
@goosewithagibus Жыл бұрын
This video has served to reinforce my take away of Fight Club being about how physical violence is good and women are bad is correct and true according to the text itself. 👍
@dicklover4203
@dicklover4203 Жыл бұрын
we all know the true message of fight club is that terrorism is good and you should drag people you love into your mental issues, also that women are bad truly that is exactly what the movie is about
@yungmuney5903
@yungmuney5903 Жыл бұрын
Critical drinker approves
@SmartAlec1
@SmartAlec1 Жыл бұрын
Media literacy is when a twitter user disagrees with you about a movie they haven’t seen.
@emblemblade9245
@emblemblade9245 Жыл бұрын
I love going on the internet and complaining about games I’ve never played!
@2006HondaCivicD
@2006HondaCivicD Жыл бұрын
@@emblemblade9245 funny how thats an actual Mario game quote.
@Ninjaananas
@Ninjaananas Жыл бұрын
@@emblemblade9245 Man, I have seen that too often.
@PEDROGARCIA-qj3gr
@PEDROGARCIA-qj3gr Жыл бұрын
LoL most time they actually saw it just to be angry with people who enjoyed it...
@SmartAlec1
@SmartAlec1 Жыл бұрын
@@PEDROGARCIA-qj3gr then they rephrase and lie about what someone else says and get 100k likes for it
@eleven2614
@eleven2614 Жыл бұрын
And don't forget the best type of media literacy. The one when you only watch the trailer, or other people rant about it, than claim you know everything about the story.
@Nightband
@Nightband Жыл бұрын
Aka, The Fandom Menace followers
@phosspatharios9680
@phosspatharios9680 Жыл бұрын
Like the people who hate on Netflix's Cuties despite an unpopular guy who actually watched the movie explained that the movie features that soft cheese pizza scenes to make the point of CSE being bad?
@eleven2614
@eleven2614 Жыл бұрын
@@phosspatharios9680 ? I was more referring about people who , for example, said that The Marvels is trash before the movie even coming out. Or said The Woman King lied about history when they haven't watch the film. Or said that animated movies are for kids when they don't even watch animation. For my understanding, the controversy around Cuties isn't the movie's quality, but how it was made (i.e. using actual teenagers to denounce CSE instead of using 18+ actresses, body doubles, CGI, Psycho-like shot, Se7en/Promising Young Woman/Black Mirror ep. 1 type of implication, etc.) Also, many KZbinrs, like Annamarie Forcino, watched the movie as well and criticized it in details. That said, I won't myself make any statement about the movie's quality and storytelling of the movie because I haven't watch it (nor do I plan to). A movie quality is a complete different conversation than the ethics behind its creation (like by involving animal cruelty, or starring/being produced by crappy people, etc.)
@tristenmagnoni7097
@tristenmagnoni7097 Жыл бұрын
AHSOKA GREY JEDI CONFIRMED!
@thedarklrd6714
@thedarklrd6714 Жыл бұрын
​@@phosspatharios9680denouncing cse does not, in any way shape or form, make using actual children to film soft core scenes okay
@Sazandora635
@Sazandora635 Жыл бұрын
I like how people will still accuse you of "lacking media literacy" even if you accurately cite information/quotes from a story or writer interviews to back up your reasoning. There's more then one way to interpret a story but if a writer intended for it to be interpreted a specific way and failed in the eyes of numerous people...then that's what is normally referred to as "bad writing".
@PlatinumAltaria
@PlatinumAltaria Жыл бұрын
No no no, the author can't fail at something. You have simply failed to recognise their genius!
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty Жыл бұрын
@@PlatinumAltaria YOU'RE INTERROGATING THE TEXT FROM THE WRONG PERSPECTIVE!!! - Anne Rice (if you know, you... well you were probably there when she was yelling at the Lestat/Louis shippers on LiveJournal, good times, good times.)
@Dave102693
@Dave102693 Жыл бұрын
Boruto stans be like…
@trolleymouse
@trolleymouse 11 ай бұрын
"If you are to be misunderstood, let it not be your fault." -- Larry Niven.
@PeterDanielBerg
@PeterDanielBerg Жыл бұрын
i've seen the term itself devolve very quickly to a buzzword meaning "agree with my bad take or you're dumb" so this is a good video right off the bat
@Teyuqueuiquop
@Teyuqueuiquop Жыл бұрын
😒
@PeterDanielBerg
@PeterDanielBerg Жыл бұрын
@@Teyuqueuiquop true
@fiktivhistoriker345
@fiktivhistoriker345 Жыл бұрын
This works two ways: "I liked to see new characters and fresh storylines in the series" "SHUT UP, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING OF THIS FRANCHISE!" "The characters didn't behave as they were established, and the stories are dark when they used to be optimistic" "SHUT UP, YOU'RE OLD AND OUTDATED AND STUCK IN THE PAST!"
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
That crosses into forshadowing and twists i think.
@thegodofalldragons
@thegodofalldragons Жыл бұрын
didney star war
@Dave102693
@Dave102693 Жыл бұрын
Boruto fans be like…
@viperstriker4728
@viperstriker4728 Жыл бұрын
Easy way to tell who is right, who puts effort and care into the series... and who edits a dagger out of the biggest fight scene in the movie because they are too lazy to reshoot bad choreography. Or we could use this simply rule of thumb, whoever is not Disney.
@plantainsame2049
@plantainsame2049 Жыл бұрын
​@@thegodofalldragonsthe hell is didney Watt didney lol
@gabrielneri2820
@gabrielneri2820 Жыл бұрын
With movies such as "Who Framed Roger Rabbit", "Ready Player One", "Space Jam A New Legacy", "Chip & Dale Rescue Rangers" and more recently "The Super Mario Bros Movie", i think there is enough mateial to make a video on "references" as a writing topic
@LendriMujina
@LendriMujina 7 ай бұрын
Roger Rabbit is the odd one out here, because it actually remembered that there was supposed to be a _movie_ for the references to contextualize. The others, they'd totally collapse without their references. Some (like Space Jam 2) had their smokescreen seen right through and collapsed anyway.
@kingsleycy3450
@kingsleycy3450 Жыл бұрын
Audience missing the point is basically a genre: Fight Club, Wall Street, Scarface, The Great Gatsby...
@audreyharris7643
@audreyharris7643 Жыл бұрын
What's the point being missed on those movies?
@louisduarte8763
@louisduarte8763 Жыл бұрын
Can I add The Sopranos, Game of Thrones, and Rick & Morty to that list?
@audreyharris7643
@audreyharris7643 Жыл бұрын
@@louisduarte8763 what are people missing about game of thrones?
@louisduarte8763
@louisduarte8763 Жыл бұрын
@@audreyharris7643 I think it's which characters to root for or not. OOH! I just remembered Breaking Bad to add to the "viewers missed the point" list.
@audreyharris7643
@audreyharris7643 Жыл бұрын
@@louisduarte8763 okay
@victorcobane6644
@victorcobane6644 Жыл бұрын
JP reminding me why I stopped going on Twitter, lol. Also, another point that is important to remember is that if you are someone who considers yourself to have media literacy, make sure to spend as much time as possible subjecting yourself to the opinions of people who don't have media literacy! Clearly, by getting a quick, totally not unnecessary and hateful, zinger in on their bad takes over and over again, you will never start to become mean spirited and start to lose the plot as to why you have any authority over them in the first place! After all, media enjoyment is a zero sum game, and if someone is enjoying something through misunderstanding it, it's absolutely a great and essential use of your time to make sure that they stop enjoying it and their misunderstanding is punished with EXTREME PREJEDUCE. Remember: having a bad take on media is the worst thing someone could ever do, anyone who does it MUST SUFFER, and there will never be any downsides to exposing yourself to negativity and stupidity 24/7.
@jasminv8653
@jasminv8653 Жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly this
@YEY0806
@YEY0806 Жыл бұрын
Dude, you literally just described me 😮😂, maybe I shouldn't be too passionate about stuff
@isky6541
@isky6541 Жыл бұрын
​@@YEY0806 Good on you for noticing
@balabanasireti
@balabanasireti Жыл бұрын
Deleting Twitter and Reddit was the best decision in my life. I just wish, that I could block people instead of just ignoring their messages because some people are really insane
@victorcobane6644
@victorcobane6644 Жыл бұрын
@@YEY0806 I don't think it always has to be a bad thing, but some people (like myself) cannot be exposed to "bad takes" too often, because we'll get so frustrated that we'll get really mean and shitty. I swear, when I think of some of the things I've tweeted at people whose worst crime was having a bad take, I get super embarrassed. At least we can always grow and get better, lol
@yeager1957
@yeager1957 Жыл бұрын
Tolkien hating people assuming his work was a allegory really shows that nothing is new under the sun
@Wyrm3
@Wyrm3 Жыл бұрын
I cant wait till I'm an old, successful writer and I get to read internet hot takes about how much of an anti-racist I am, when in reality I just wanted to write about cool goblins and shit.
@thedemonking0013
@thedemonking0013 Жыл бұрын
Writing time periods would be a fun subject.
@ulaznar
@ulaznar Жыл бұрын
Don't bother researching history, nor having consultants. Just make things up based on how previous media represented the historical period
@Green-3c34y65vrbu
@Green-3c34y65vrbu Жыл бұрын
they're so hard to research for that i tend to write about fantasy worlds instead, so a video on the topic would be greatly helpful for sure.
@munken7673
@munken7673 Жыл бұрын
Just make a fantasy and pretend that it takes place in the past
@scorpixel1866
@scorpixel1866 Жыл бұрын
Incredibly easy, take modern day US West Coast, slap vague generic cosmetics (buildings and costumes) of the era on it, and done! Remember to also firmly ignore anything the historians you hired for historical accuracy may say, and fire them if they're ever anything but yesmen on set.
@valentinmitterbauer4196
@valentinmitterbauer4196 Жыл бұрын
Also use historical names, but put them in a fictional story, never depict the bad things that happened in this period (except when the whole story is about said bad thing) and incorporate some jucy historical revisionism of -current political movement- The good protagonists of course hold modern views or at least hint at them, even though they couldn't even know about certain concepts that got only established in modern times and lets them look like complete weirdos for people of their period. Finally, "bad" historical figures can't be depicted having any good quality, don't want to depict them as a human being, after all.
@eighthundredlies
@eighthundredlies Жыл бұрын
I can feel the unbridled rage coming from this video. It really is too accurate, it's almost painful. Here's hoping people starting paying attention in English class 😔
@Destroyerofnations
@Destroyerofnations Жыл бұрын
Fun fact- It took me months to realize this was meant to be literal terrible advice, so I nearly planned out and written one of the worst books in history before it finally clicked that the Terrible Advice title wasn't ironic.
@paisleepunk
@paisleepunk Жыл бұрын
shoulda kept going then sold the book rights to this channel for use as a written "how-not-to" manual
@Destroyerofnations
@Destroyerofnations Жыл бұрын
@@paisleepunk That honestly wouldn't of been a bad idea
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be real if you did it would be so bad it's good.
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
So bad its good is a thing
@Ellebeeby
@Ellebeeby Жыл бұрын
​@@Destroyerofnations given that it's "wouldn't HAVE"... I'd say you're still on track, lol
@andrewthegeek6522
@andrewthegeek6522 Жыл бұрын
13:30 story twist that is heavily foreshadowed and ovious will always be more fun than no foreshadowing. recently I've been reading lovecraft short stories and those are neat cause sometimes a twist of sorts is being arranged but the change in story expectation ruins it. For example, magic is heavy handed in newer media so the sorcerer figured out how to live forever is'nt as extreme a concept. And almost nothing in his short stories are wasted so it's easy to pick up on foreshadowing. Despite they are still well constructed and pleasent to read
@starmaker75
@starmaker75 Жыл бұрын
Also an heavily foreshadowing things can in a way build tense where we the reader/watchers know what going on, but the character don't.
@cara-seyun
@cara-seyun Жыл бұрын
@@starmaker75 or where the characters know exactly what is going on but can’t do anything to stop it
@featherlessbiped1204
@featherlessbiped1204 Жыл бұрын
They are very well written. You know, minus the racism.
@henryfleischer404
@henryfleischer404 Жыл бұрын
I think they're both useful. I've been watching Code Geass again recently, and there's a twist partway through the first season that, well... if you know, you know. It could not have been predicted, but in retrospect was very much a possibility. And it felt like a punch in the face, in a good way.
@tailnowag8753
@tailnowag8753 Жыл бұрын
Really it just depends on the purpose of the twist, because let's be honest a reason being "for the surprise" is really, really shallow. So if you want to build dread and tension, or just show how people may be blind to change, you heavily foreshadow the twist. If you want to show that reality can be blindsiding or just that unexpected consequences happen, then you foreshadow a lot less. Really it just if it delivers what the author intended out of the twist, instead of it always being a "surprise" or always "the reader should see it coming" You probably already know that though, I just wanted to rant about that facet of media criticism.
@chrisschirripa5917
@chrisschirripa5917 Жыл бұрын
Remember every bad thing happens in you’re story is what you condone in real life. Even if there’s not real evidence to suggest or just saying no I don’t, doesn’t matter you wrote there for its law
@creeperkingdom3190
@creeperkingdom3190 Жыл бұрын
This is actually a legit criticism alot of the time atleast in my expirence though the actual point is often strawmaned by fans. The actual point is typically something like this. If the theme of the story is murder is wrong why is it that everytime someone murders someone else they are rewarded and every time someone chooses not to they get punished. Why is it that all the muderes have a happy ending while the innocents they abused live terribly. The themes aren't matching what actually happened in the story.
@chrisschirripa5917
@chrisschirripa5917 Жыл бұрын
Because sometimes good doesn’t always win and thus becomes a cautionary tale. Greek Mythology, Shakespeare, horror stories are perfect examples.
@creeperkingdom3190
@creeperkingdom3190 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisschirripa5917 you can not SHOW me John everyman being put in a situation where he has to murder a vicious genocidal maniac or his family and entire community while be killed. Show me that he is perfectly fine and his life even improves after tge incident and have everyone congratulate him for his actions. Then have a three line speech at the end of the story about how murder us wrong no matter the situation. And then expect me as a reader to conclude I guess he was wrong for murdering said genocidal maniac. Thats just bad writting. And you also can not tell me after I explain why killing tge genocidal manic tge right descion in the context of the story that I just didn't understand the themes of the story completely ignoring my point.
@chrisschirripa5917
@chrisschirripa5917 Жыл бұрын
@@creeperkingdom3190 what kinda story are you reading?
@creeperkingdom3190
@creeperkingdom3190 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisschirripa5917 I was using a general example to show my point but if you want an example now that I think about. This situation i mentioned is very similar to early Steven universe where bismuth a war hero is called evil for wanting to kill literal genocidal maniacs.
@Calbeck
@Calbeck Жыл бұрын
I'd say the biggest impact of the Culture War has been to sideline media literacy in favor of social and political blatherskite, instead of telling a coherent and entertaining story which might also (but not necessarily) include social and/or political commentary which is actually germane to the story itself.
@llynxfyremusic
@llynxfyremusic Жыл бұрын
Eh, there's still coherent stories coming out. Star Wars Andor and Arcane are both really good political stories with compelling characters.
@nekrataali
@nekrataali Жыл бұрын
One problem is the lack of media literacy makes it so media beats people over the head along with their horse....aaaaaaaaaand some people still won't get it. The number of people who watch "The Boys" and don't realize Homelander is the villain makes me want to eject myself into the sun. You can't do subtle political or social commentary without really rubbing people's nose in it.
@yungmuney5903
@yungmuney5903 Жыл бұрын
All stories are political, that's the point of them.
@simonpetrikov3992
@simonpetrikov3992 Жыл бұрын
@@yungmuney5903yeah the phrase “everything is political” is one of the most toxic phrases I’ve ever heard in my life
@soulstealer5625
@soulstealer5625 Жыл бұрын
​@simonpetrikov3992 how so? Politics people agree with is often written off as 'common sense' so people don't realise their bias.
@mr.e2239
@mr.e2239 Жыл бұрын
Honestly most internet "critics" (especially on KZbin) don't really care for in depth analysis. Most people claiming to want that analysis these days as well don't really want it. Rather they just want someone to reaffirm their opinions, both the critic and the audience. The classic internet feedback loop.
@Grzzgwzz
@Grzzgwzz Жыл бұрын
In depth analysis requires a long time. Long arguments are bad. Didn't you watch the video?
@cara-seyun
@cara-seyun Жыл бұрын
@@Grzzgwzz no I just looked at the title and immediately extrapolated what was in it since I ain’t watching all that. I’d rather argue in the comments
@mr.e2239
@mr.e2239 Жыл бұрын
@@Grzzgwzz Calm down, I watched the video and I was giving some honest thoughts. If there was something I missed from the video please let me know. :3
@Pistonrager
@Pistonrager Жыл бұрын
@MetA :) hard to get anyone to even look at the videos.
@lordquaz7154
@lordquaz7154 Жыл бұрын
That's why I have a problem with critics like MauLer. His videos try to change the opinion of his audience or prove an opinion he has and uses objectivity as a guise. To this day his Dark Souls 2 videos and Little nightmares video stand as bad criticism on things he dose not like that uses faulty evidence or bad faith arguments. And I know sombody will disagree with me and call me an Hbom dick sucker of the like. I'm not. Just because I don't like the long man doesn't meen I'm devoid of critical thinking skills. I just don't like bad faith arguments.
@andrewgreenwood9068
@andrewgreenwood9068 Жыл бұрын
My favourite technique is to use death of the author to completely ignore the author's intentions and then use my analysis to make judgements of said author.
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 Жыл бұрын
...I'd say Part 2 to this video here is the Fraud-Debunking and Scammer-Dissecting of various channels like Darkmatter, Atomic Shrimp, Professor Dave, Hbomberguy and Some More News.
@pixelknight163
@pixelknight163 Жыл бұрын
Just remember, the only way to get better at media literacy is to listen to other people's analysis, breakdowns, and reviews. There is absolutely no way that reading more and deconstructing stories in your head more or even just recognizing the tropes and character archetypes that make up a story can possibly increase your media literacy. In fact, you should never do that, so that your entire opinion on a story is formed solely through what other people say about it. It's not like people tend to understand themselves better by trying to form their own opinion on something, the state of "The knowing I" is a lie. Choose between listening to the most infuriating or agreeable analysis, don't switch between the two. Because it's not like discovering what you like is something done in a cycle of boundary pushing and relaxation, and never, ever spend even a single moment thinking about the points and opinions presented, otherwise you might actually learn and internalize something. But if you decide to ignore my good advice and actually read and analyze more, remember never to bring in the opinions and ideas of others, after all, that might taint your knowledge. It certainly won't help by giving you an angle you might've not considered before.
@ThorDude
@ThorDude Жыл бұрын
And I sure am glad that the bulk of successful critics, both professional and unprofessional, have excellent media literacy skills and don't derive their success from controversy or slimy behavior outside their occupations!
@Grzzgwzz
@Grzzgwzz Жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity, who are you taking about? I didn't really get this video...
@ThorDude
@ThorDude Жыл бұрын
​@@GrzzgwzzHonestly about 90% of pro film critics. But for some nonprofessional critics: Nostalgia Critic Cinema Sins Even No Bullshit on his older channel
@Grzzgwzz
@Grzzgwzz Жыл бұрын
Oh shit, yeah I know of them. Haven't heard good things. Thanks for the response
@emblemblade9245
@emblemblade9245 Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t Nostalgia Critic largely innocent and he was just inept at handling the corruption around Channel Awesome?
@ginogatash4030
@ginogatash4030 Жыл бұрын
​@@emblemblade9245 I don't know if I'd say innocent cause he did technically neglect to use his authority well, but he seems more guilty of incompetence than malice.
@samwill7259
@samwill7259 Жыл бұрын
Uh oh, nuance? On the internet? Well this one's shot before we started
@n0vitski
@n0vitski Жыл бұрын
A dog once told me: "You only get to act smug if you're right. If you act smug while being wrong, you will just make an idiot of yourself".
@firelordeliteast6750
@firelordeliteast6750 3 ай бұрын
For this reason, the safest option is avoid acting smug in general. But I won't stop anyone if they try
@SHREKPissing
@SHREKPissing 2 ай бұрын
A dog told you? Man, you must have had a crazy trip or mispelled something
@eisgnom7383
@eisgnom7383 2 ай бұрын
​​@@firelordeliteast6750 That's the safe option, but you don't get to act smug that way. Acting smug is the reward for being right.
@goofusdestroyerofworlds9504
@goofusdestroyerofworlds9504 Жыл бұрын
As for the Sponsorship Wars, I genuinely want to see Inner Critic be featured in more videos. Also, the ancient conspiracy plot twist was certainly shocking! Honestly, I won't be surprised if the background characters go along with it.
@Skywarslord
@Skywarslord Жыл бұрын
I was shocked too, I was hoping the general would get a win for once but the ancient conspiracy???? Also the inner critic joining the sponsorship wars would be hilarious. I’d imagine him as a voice of reason and then he just gets shut down by everyone else
@generationm2059
@generationm2059 Жыл бұрын
All according to plan...
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
​@@Skywarslordyes
@parkergregg9386
@parkergregg9386 Жыл бұрын
Is it weird I feel kind of bad for the general? He just can’t catch a break.
@goofusdestroyerofworlds9504
@goofusdestroyerofworlds9504 Жыл бұрын
@@parkergregg9386 He needs a nap.
@MSCDonkeyKong
@MSCDonkeyKong Жыл бұрын
6:09 as a guy who has played the entire danganronpa trilogy, i'm so angry that weeb culture has overused the "its acktually satire, you wouldnt get it" as a flimsy defense for when something they like ends up having cringe elements, that when something with an anime artstyle ACTUALLY satirizes anime, and ACTUALLY has something to say, and ACTUALLY suggests ways to improve the culture surrounding it, that the argument is near indistinguishable from a flimsy hot take built on a fragile ego. and as such, the story ended up becoming known for everything it swore to destroy. no trilogy should have to explain to the audience what a satire is in the way v3 had to. theres nothing i would actually change about that story, i just hate the circumstances that you'd have to find yourself in for such a story to be necessary. moral of the story: media literacy and spotting satire is really, REALLY important for if a series is going to have the cultural impact you WANT it to have. and please stop using "satire" as a flimsy defense for when the homies catch you lackin, cause that makes it near impossible to tell when something actually IS a satire.
@lillianbygone8507
@lillianbygone8507 Жыл бұрын
Now that you mention that, as someone else who was only exposed to the story through the games, I do wonder what occurred at time that made V3 as a story necessary. I’m aware there’s more material outside of the games, I wonder if that has anything to do with it?
@SamuelThomasFraser
@SamuelThomasFraser Жыл бұрын
As a academic, I am extremely angry about how accurate the comparison with shippers is.
@Cerebrum123
@Cerebrum123 Жыл бұрын
"Especially useful since the Inner Critic has destroyed far more worlds than I ever could". Ouch, I felt that.
@nat9504
@nat9504 Жыл бұрын
"Especially useful since The Inner Critic has destroyed far more worlds than I ever could." _Damn._
@RachelNichols-v5b
@RachelNichols-v5b Жыл бұрын
10:05 I read a blog post by a woman condemning Disney's 1991 Beauty and the Beast. Why? She complained that Gaston, the villain, was a misogynist and therefore a poor role model.
@clipboss8052
@clipboss8052 4 ай бұрын
My only answer being *no shit!*
@canaisyoung3601
@canaisyoung3601 3 ай бұрын
Uh, duh.
@ObsidianHunter99
@ObsidianHunter99 Жыл бұрын
13:00 The fact that my recommended looked like this at one point both intrigues and frightens me
@MrMuel1205
@MrMuel1205 Жыл бұрын
I love the sheer, overflowing frustration in this one. It's wonderfully raw.
@Oxtocoatl13
@Oxtocoatl13 Жыл бұрын
A well-made criticism can enhance one's experience with the text as well as be an enjoyable reading experience in itself. I wish we had more of that, in this click-thirsty hell scape where only engagement statistics seem to matter.
@gloweye
@gloweye Жыл бұрын
Oof, there's so much stuff here I tried to explain to people. Mostly about people 100% believing that the author ALWAYS endorses actions of their protagonists. And if the author doesn't admit to it, it's subconscious and still reason to send them to the gulag.
@viperstriker4728
@viperstriker4728 Жыл бұрын
Well we have quotas to meet, they should just be grateful we are taking the time to make a reason to send them to the gulag. Your not questioning our sense of justice, are you comrade? Surely your not anti-revolutionary?
@Ellebeeby
@Ellebeeby Жыл бұрын
They just have INTERNALISED [bad thing]! They're clearly dogwhistling to other [bad group used as a generic slur]s!
@thedarklrd6714
@thedarklrd6714 Жыл бұрын
Because they can't comprehend (1. Subtlety and (2. The emotional maturity it takes to listen to, discuss, or try to understand viewpoints you don't agree with
@headphonesaxolotl
@headphonesaxolotl Жыл бұрын
It's funny when they realize villain protagonists exist.
@Sillysleepiness
@Sillysleepiness Жыл бұрын
As a literature student this was both terrifying and "satisfying" to listen to...
@ComboSmooth
@ComboSmooth Жыл бұрын
my uncle is a 70 year old man who has always written all his emails in all caps. Like it really doesnt matter if the letter is meant to be nice, negative or just business.. he does this because he is an odd man.
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty Жыл бұрын
Is it because he's an odd man, because his sight is bad and that makes it easier for him to read, or is it because his caps lock is on and he doesn't know? If it's the second please go into his accessibility settings and make his system font bigger, eye strain sucks!
@josecarlosmoreno9731
@josecarlosmoreno9731 Жыл бұрын
does he believe having 2 cases for every letter reduces literacy by increasing what must be learned? ORDOESHEBELIEVEVVEMVSTRETVRNTOTRADITIONANDVVRITELIKETHEROMANS?
@sempersolus5511
@sempersolus5511 Жыл бұрын
You know that weird island that only exists in logic puzzles? Where everyone either speaks only in truth or only in lies? That's JP's hometown. But he says he's one of the truth-tellers, so I trust him.
@josephmatthews7698
@josephmatthews7698 Жыл бұрын
Another important thing to do is couch your criticisms in sarcasm and satire so if you're true intentions are ever called out you can say things like, "well obviously i wasnt being serious! I was only joking!" Plus it lets you float above the dumb normies and keeps your intellectual honesty unimpeachable and unchallengable. That way youre always right and if youre not then they just took it too seriously.
@youngescapist9920
@youngescapist9920 Жыл бұрын
My favorite writing teacher, learned more here then in collehe
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 Жыл бұрын
8:26 I once saw a video showing clips to support their shipping of billy and Mandy and one of them was a clip where they’re sitting on a couch together and billy puts his hands up while talking and then he rests them back on the couch and it looks like his hand is on top of Mandy’s and the guy points it out like that means something. My guy, that was obviously an animation error
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty Жыл бұрын
Obviously what you have to do now is to make crackpot theories about every animation error you know of and see how many of them propagate past you.
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 Жыл бұрын
@@neoqwerty what a great idea
@michaelmutranowski123
@michaelmutranowski123 Жыл бұрын
I feel like people have been using the word "bias" whenever they mean "prejudice" since like 2010. I can't be the only person who thinks that the work "prejudice" has just disappeared from current vernacular?
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
A bias doesn’t always mean a prejudice. It’s a different thing.
@jasminv8653
@jasminv8653 Жыл бұрын
It definitely is a useful term with its own academic meaning - just as 'problematic' is - but the problematic (sorry) aspect of the word use here is exactly what JP said: now these academic, useful terms become 'academic-sounding buzzwords' instead. I'm sure a lot of people do actually mean for example prejudiced, unfair, or bigoted when they say biased, but some people definitely mean 'biased' (= having a viewpoint, as we ALL do, that affects our worldview). I'm also sure many people started to use 'problematic' in its actual meaning (= multifaceted, not simple, in need of further examination) but the unaware use has reduced it to be a synonym of either unfun, evil, condemnable or irredeemable. And that's honestly a shame because both are very good words for discussing the impact of media and other things, but they shouldn't be applied in those meanings so willy-nilly.
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty Жыл бұрын
@@jasminv8653 Thank you for giving me a clear definition of how I'm supposed to use "problematic", english is my second language and I mostly pick it up from context, so for that one I knew that it applied for stuff that usually has Unfortunate Implications, but not for "needs nuanced handling" too.
@justinambru8529
@justinambru8529 Жыл бұрын
Well bias can be reason someone is prejudiced.
@teddyhaines6613
@teddyhaines6613 Жыл бұрын
I think the issue is that "prejudice" can no longer be used so freely because it's been conflated with "bigotry."
@stinkodoronion
@stinkodoronion Жыл бұрын
The buzzword bit with the "Don't Recommend Channel" option is too relatable lmao
@kingofcards9
@kingofcards9 Жыл бұрын
Amen, who wants to see them.
@PetroBeherha
@PetroBeherha 11 ай бұрын
“Not Interested” and “Don’t Recommend Channel” are your best friends.
@elrinmeyers1560
@elrinmeyers1560 Жыл бұрын
I got the joke at 12:00 and I really appreciate that you put it in there. You’re a very funny guy and my parasocial relationship with you is growing by the day!
@clockwork2943
@clockwork2943 Жыл бұрын
I fell into the youtube culture war cesspool in 2018 and managed to get my way out after last year. To be fair to myself I wised up to the most egregious of the bunch after they did nothing but spew hit pieces on Brie Larson for 2 months. The tipping point was realizing that in the span of 4 years, the only on that had created anything was ThatUmbrellaGuy (Who was one of the first of them I unsubbed to)
@cactusadams7752
@cactusadams7752 Жыл бұрын
I had an experience like that. It was like being 2 years into a 1,000,000,000 year-long camping trip with your toxic friends and suddenly realizing you’re in a cult after your 44th night of body-pit duty 😓
@tundrarunner4951
@tundrarunner4951 Жыл бұрын
When discussing media literacy, emotion over rationality. Every time.
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty Жыл бұрын
Unless it's about a work that OBVIOUSLY wants you to feel a lot of things like The Last Unicorn, then you want to take the most robotic read you can muster while invalidating anything that talks about feelings!!!
@gunslingergirl2579
@gunslingergirl2579 Жыл бұрын
@@neoqwerty You get a like just for mentioning my favorite movie.
@line888togheyhenom2
@line888togheyhenom2 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget pretending to be totally rational despite that. That part is important.
@eeg-rh7jv
@eeg-rh7jv Жыл бұрын
That's legit every modern day internet argument
@veggsbacon1891
@veggsbacon1891 4 ай бұрын
They usually add this annoying emoji 😭 coz "muh feefees." I swear to god, those "adults." 🤣
@laststand6420
@laststand6420 Жыл бұрын
"The winner, by 352% of the vote, is the ancient conspiracy" has to be one of the funniest lines I have ever heard. Totally out of left field JP, I love it.
@Kio_Kurashi
@Kio_Kurashi Жыл бұрын
So here's my idea: Anytime you see people making media illiterate takes on social media, share this video in reply to them if you can. JP gets potential clicks, and we get to not-so-subtly subtly tell them they're media illiterate.
@rileyfreedman
@rileyfreedman Жыл бұрын
But JP, the greedy, misogynistic millionaire in the story looks soo cool committing crimes without resistance and doing drugs and getting money! So therefore I should base my entire life on being just like him!!!
@rileyfreedman
@rileyfreedman Жыл бұрын
There’s no themes about greed and it’s relationship with toxic masculinity in the “fox of market street”. It’s about how to escape the matrix and be rich and successful to spite the woke communist lefties!!
@zero-one2585
@zero-one2585 Жыл бұрын
Breaking bad fans (without the drugs) be like:
@nekrataali
@nekrataali Жыл бұрын
@@zero-one2585 You can also add: Mad Men, Succession, The Sopranos, Fight Club, and---Jesus fucking Christ you'd think people would figure it out, right?
@stevepensando2593
@stevepensando2593 Жыл бұрын
​@@zero-one2585Walter smokes pot in one scene, so it's still accurate
@kidcircuit1955
@kidcircuit1955 Жыл бұрын
​@@nekrataalidon't forget American Psycho
@shibuyaneko5741
@shibuyaneko5741 Жыл бұрын
personally i think an integral part of loving something is being critical of its flaws.
@KurtAngle89
@KurtAngle89 Жыл бұрын
This was perhaps the most necessary video you've ever made, considering our day and age
@Rowlesisgay
@Rowlesisgay Жыл бұрын
ancient conspiracy wins?? dam the writing of the end segments is pretty good. this is probably the only channel that i looks forward to the sponsor reads as much as the actual content im just too invested in the plot.
@plumfadoodle4908
@plumfadoodle4908 Жыл бұрын
It's nice to see Greed finally lose at something.
@mioko5679
@mioko5679 Жыл бұрын
same!! i think i'm looking forward to the sponsor reads more that the actual series at this point lol
@williamgeorge3111
@williamgeorge3111 Жыл бұрын
And by over 300%? Sounds like something actually did go just as planned this time.
@Wyattporter
@Wyattporter Жыл бұрын
5:51 that’s called death of the author, silly! What the author says about their work can be completely ignored, because I can interpret it any way I want and still be correct!
@ProjSHiNKiROU
@ProjSHiNKiROU Жыл бұрын
"The Fall of Megacorp" sounds like a Rian Johnson film or a film made in South Korea. TWAs you should consider doing: Disney+ shows (MCU/Star Wars), hard sci-fi, shock value
@spacebassist
@spacebassist Жыл бұрын
Or a ratchet & clank fanfiction
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty Жыл бұрын
@@spacebassist the dread you summoned with six words and the implied "of enough noteworthiness to be the topic of a Terrible Writing Advice" is kind of amazing, I've only felt that much "oh NO" reading the Swamps of Dagobah story before.
@Dave102693
@Dave102693 Жыл бұрын
I mean, we have a movie called ‘The Force Awakens’ by Rían Johnson…
@spacebassist
@spacebassist Жыл бұрын
@@neoqwerty swamps of dagobah? That sounds like a nice setting for a star wars fanfiction and not potentially a euphemism Also I just said RaC because "megacorp", like in RaC1. I haven't bared my eyes to much fanfiction tbh
@KWBR1123
@KWBR1123 Жыл бұрын
@@Dave102693 J J Abrams directed the force awakens
@panlis6243
@panlis6243 Жыл бұрын
"having a thing in a story is the same as endorsing it" - my first thought was when people try to cancel a story for having a character who is clearly depicted as the bad guy do something bad and then say the story "promotes racism" or something like that but arguibly the people I find personally worse are those take a character who is clearly depicted as heavily morally flawed and call them "based" and say how they were actually right
@switchplayer1016
@switchplayer1016 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait until we get a video on multiverse stories. Remember only two universes will be explored.
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty Жыл бұрын
And one of them is the one where everything caused by the two main male leads fighting each other over their beliefs is solved by making one of them have boobs in the other universe, because obviously a love triangle solves all the problems!
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
And his alternate verson, is the critic haunted by J P.
@Dave102693
@Dave102693 Жыл бұрын
Oh god 🤮
@zhcultivator
@zhcultivator Жыл бұрын
oh boiiii......
@headphonesaxolotl
@headphonesaxolotl Жыл бұрын
surprisingly, I have the opposite problem of "the same dudes are exploring their 87th universe with the same themes of trusting your friends"
@nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457
@nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457 Жыл бұрын
10:40, This baffles me, I go to a lot of anime and manga forum sites, where people can't comprehend such a simple notion.
@simplydoodled
@simplydoodled Жыл бұрын
Dude just woke up one day and said: "People don't know how to read...that ought to make a good video"
@generalcatkaa5864
@generalcatkaa5864 Жыл бұрын
Never before have I felt so called out and yet so validated at the same time.
@diglett8842
@diglett8842 Жыл бұрын
I love to literate media
@nielsjensen4185
@nielsjensen4185 Жыл бұрын
The great part about understanding the biases people have is the knowledge that a lot of them are socio-cultural and the elements in the story can tell you a lot about the culture of the country the fiction originated in.
@AlbinoAxolotl1993
@AlbinoAxolotl1993 Жыл бұрын
Also the time it was published.
@thedragongirl27
@thedragongirl27 Жыл бұрын
i wanna write a witty comment but i cant think of just one thing to praise this for, this entire thing is accurate
@swarple
@swarple Жыл бұрын
This makes me think of when I hear (understandably) concerned parents be horrified with video games where you kill literally anything, saying “Oh our kids might think it’s OK to hurt people in real life due to desensitization,” and when people argue that it’s not real, they’re like “So?! You’re still killing things!” Like I understand your worry (and obviously some children are too young to be exposed to certain content) but methinks you’re the one who’s having a hard time differentiating between fiction and reality. They’re not actually killing anyone. They’re pressing buttons to eliminate fictional enemies in a world that doesn’t exist.
@GamersHolyArmy
@GamersHolyArmy Жыл бұрын
@@slevinchannel7589 Even if you do like these channels, spamming them onto barely related comments make people want to avoid them.
@tisvana18
@tisvana18 Жыл бұрын
My mother once lectured my brother saying “YOU CAN’T PLAY THAT IN FRONT OF HER WHAT IF SHE IMITATES IT” It was Saints Row, he was committing insurance fraud (by throwing himself in front of cars) and I was 11. Well old enough to know to not rag doll in front of a car.
@dicklover4203
@dicklover4203 Жыл бұрын
this reminds me of when I was playing GTA5 and my dad said it was going to make me kill actual cops in real life parents sometimes have zero ability to deferenciate reality from fiction
@samueldimmock694
@samueldimmock694 Жыл бұрын
Interestingly, there is scientific evidence that playing antisocial games tends to increase antisocial behavior, at least in the short term. I don't know what, if any, long-term effect there is, nor do I know what factors influence that effect (there may be research about it that I haven't read, or there may not), but I do know that the reverse is also true. I also don't remember the effect size.
@dicklover4203
@dicklover4203 Жыл бұрын
@@samueldimmock694 by anti social games do you mean single player? if so that just makes sense if you have a hobby thatis an alone thing that you do alone and spend time on doing that also includes actual characters written to be like people, you tend to not desire social interaction as much? like it's the same with books a book reader is usually anti social or introverted
@Jpturlax01
@Jpturlax01 Жыл бұрын
Damnnnn THE INNER CRITIC VS. THE INNER GREED?! Talk about show down of the century! Yess pleasee!
@misterbitey2107
@misterbitey2107 Жыл бұрын
"The Stormtroopers in A New Hope did not miss the protagonists because they were ordered to but because of plot armor. Even though the fact that the Empire let the Millennium Falcon go expecting them to go to the rebel base and using that to track them is text, and even though the Stormtroopers are shown to be highly capable marksmen in the first scenes of the movie, and even though Tarkin and Vader both discuss the tracking device and the risks of letting the rebels go, it cannot be assumed the Stormtroopers were ordered to miss on purpose no matter how much sense that would make because there is no scene of them being explicitly told to miss" -An actual thing said by an actual KZbin video I watched once (paraphrased)
@dicklover4203
@dicklover4203 Жыл бұрын
"well they didn't directly state that [heavily implied thing] was happening so it could not have happened! it's just bad writing!!" 😊
@tsifirakiehl4250
@tsifirakiehl4250 4 ай бұрын
What on earth was this person on about? Stormtroopers are terrible shots. They hardly ever hit anything.
@hannahfanning9585
@hannahfanning9585 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this video in the aftermath of the Shakespeare unit in my English class. God, some of my classmates clearly were not paying attention 😢
@powwowken2760
@powwowken2760 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but if people actually learned media literacy then my stocks in "eye rolling" and "facepalming" would plummet!!!
@titangirl161
@titangirl161 Жыл бұрын
Did...did I just see Tolkien threatening JP? I think my life may be complete now
@reubenoakley5887
@reubenoakley5887 Жыл бұрын
16:14 Wait until JP finds out that he drinks the same brand of Writer's Tears as his mortal enemy!
@nighthawk72j80
@nighthawk72j80 Жыл бұрын
Once again, I summon thee! Please do wildlife survival stories. You know, things like Lord of the Flies, the Hatchet series, and others in the genre.
@emblemblade9245
@emblemblade9245 Жыл бұрын
Oho Hatchet, that takes me back
@nighthawk72j80
@nighthawk72j80 Жыл бұрын
@@emblemblade9245 Gary Paulsen wrote some good stuff.
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
Yessss
@Calebgoblin
@Calebgoblin Жыл бұрын
I've been following your channel for a long, long time and I don't think I've ever seen you napalm such a large target area before. Outstanding
@Soitisisit
@Soitisisit Жыл бұрын
Damn. JP finally fucking snapped. RIP my guy. If I had money, I'd send you enough to get a latte or whatever other sweet beverage fits your taste for under $10.
@shishsjxnsnzns
@shishsjxnsnzns Жыл бұрын
This is the first episode i feel NEEDED more specific examples. I don't know what you're describing, but I feel like i would if you applied it to Death Of A Salesman for me
@PeterDanielBerg
@PeterDanielBerg Жыл бұрын
sounds like he might have overdosed on patrick bateman edits
@MusicoftheDamned
@MusicoftheDamned Жыл бұрын
I can give two examples from my own reply, since they cover both extremes of the typical political spectrum. Neither of them are _Death of a Salesman_ though since a) it's been over a decade since I last read that, if I ever did, and b) I am unaware of any bad "hot takes" about that story even if they no doubt exist. So no point in putting imaginary words in imaginary people's mouths for actual examples of this when there's already so much free-flowing stupidity to choose from for this unfortunately: 1. 05:05 basically covers right-wing extremists' view of capitalism as unable to do any wrong ever or need to be amended or improved in anyway, even the egregious greedy shit that benefits basically no one but the already obscenely rich. As such, it covers the same media illiteracy from certain people who tried to argue that _Squid Game_ was pro-capitalism and anti-communism when _Squid Game_ could hardly be more anti-capitalism--or at least anti-corporatism and anti-hedonistic greed--if it tried. 2. Meanwhile, 11:10 basically covers all the type of people who don't want to see anything they personally objection to in media, ever, even if it's very clearly the villain doing in a way that is being depicted as unambiguously vile, dangerous, "evil, and/or not to emulated. The best example that came to mind off the top of my head was the idiotic overreaction certain left-wing extremists had to Apocalypse being briefly shown choking Mystique in the _X-Men: Apocalypse_ trailer back in 2016. Those people got up in arms about such a terrible and abusive thing being done to her...even though it was by the bad guy of the movie who is literally a *genocidal* tyrant who has shown in literally every version of himself has no qualms harming and killing men, children, and--gasp!--women to achieve his ends. I can unfortunately give more examples easily if need be.
@shishsjxnsnzns
@shishsjxnsnzns Жыл бұрын
@@MusicoftheDamned Thank you
@thelordz33
@thelordz33 Жыл бұрын
​@@MusicoftheDamned 5:05 is literally about the people who unironically think American Pyscho is worthy of emulation.
@MusicoftheDamned
@MusicoftheDamned Жыл бұрын
@@thelordz33 It covers a lot, unfortunately, with precisely none of it being worthy of even if _American Psycho_ is arguably what is being used as the actual example in-video. I admittedly assumed it was that _Wall Street_ movie though given how many people seem to take the "greed is good" line at face value (as far as the movie is concerned, not the character saying it).
@bananajewell8846
@bananajewell8846 Жыл бұрын
I know some very big words, it helps me look more photosynthesis
@tach5884
@tach5884 Жыл бұрын
"How dare fans gatekeep something they like! We'll buy it and make sure only haters gatekeep it!" - Companies that totally remember how capitalism works
@justinambru8529
@justinambru8529 Жыл бұрын
That's cronyism for yah.
@viperstriker4728
@viperstriker4728 Жыл бұрын
All those companies that lose money, ha profits, what an outdated concept.
@tentacledood5784
@tentacledood5784 Ай бұрын
Volition with the Saints Row reboot:
@remyrichardson8614
@remyrichardson8614 7 ай бұрын
I remember some assholes on twitter would say that because starship troopers is a satire that means the bugs were the good guys
@firelordeliteast6750
@firelordeliteast6750 2 ай бұрын
...No, they were fucking bugs.
@remyrichardson8614
@remyrichardson8614 17 күн бұрын
​@firelordeliteast6750 it's so weird to me that they can't understand that starship troopers has no "good guys"
@Nomadith
@Nomadith Жыл бұрын
Even with the usual madness, this just feels like logical JP got mad at seeing people misconstrue American Psycho for all their 'literally me on my grindset' Bateman edits
@Tickerchicken
@Tickerchicken Жыл бұрын
I love that greed is aware the inner critic is more powerful than him, probably why in the self care JP implies himself to be an alcoholic, because alcohol blocks the inner critic giving greed absolute power
@Shadowrunner123
@Shadowrunner123 Жыл бұрын
I gotta say, this has been a blast to re-binge-watch.
@teddyn240
@teddyn240 Жыл бұрын
Please do videos on the following: Maguffins, Fantasy Quests, High School/College settings, Martial Arts.
@ElvenRaptor
@ElvenRaptor Жыл бұрын
I swear these takes are every 11 out of 10 conversations I have about works of fiction online.
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